Developing a Prime's worth of content takes time.
If there is a Metroid Prime for home consoles in development, it will target the next Nintendo console.
Metroid Prime series produced Kensuke Tanabe spoke to Eurogamer at E3, and confirmed that the time to develop the amount of content in a Metroid Prime game would take several years.
"It's a long time but it would need to include a lot of content, which would take a lot of work on the development side." - Kensuke Tanabe
The interview also indicates that the game would follow new plot threads after a couple of the long-standing ones were cleared up in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.
Release game?
If they're not developing new Metroid for the Wii U, then that means they're developing new F-Zero!Don't let your dreams be dreams.
...let me be delusional
So, Nintendo has really given up on Wii U. Since they're aware of this. Get to work!
I don't want them next generation saying they were unprepared for it. They should be hard at work on something that is at LEAST as powerful as a XboxOne or ps4 target specifications. If they don't have something ready for 2017 than they have no idea how to make schedules. It sounds like they haven't even started.....sigh
No proper Metroid game, no proper 3D Mario game, and probably no proper Zelda game come this time next year.
All four of those devs are assholes. Nintendo should be compatible with their hardware. Not the western dev's bitch.
No proper Metroid game, no proper 3D Mario game, and probably no proper Zelda game come this time next year.
1 for 3. Good enough for the Baseball Hall of Fame, and the NWR forums...
No proper Metroid game, no proper 3D Mario game, and probably no proper Zelda game come this time next year.
1 for 3. Good enough for the Baseball Hall of Fame, and the NWR forums...
The Wii U doesn't have a Metroid game, 3D World is a largely-multiplayer game more in line with the New Super Mario Bros. series, and Zelda will not be a Wii U game by this time next year. It's so incredibly obvious at this point that that's an NX game, without question.
The devs only care about "can we sell this and make a profit?" They don't care whether the port is good or bad as long as it turns in a profit (see all Ubisoft PC games ever). They want a player base established and they want compatible hardware. You don't need to kiss their ass or consult them for it. Some common sense on Nintendo's side goes a long way.All four of those devs are assholes. Nintendo should be compatible with their hardware. Not the western dev's bitch.
Whether you like them or not, they are the major players in the 3rd party market, not the nearly-irrelevant Japanese publishers. If Nintendo doesn't consult with them in the design of the NX and design it per where they are going with their games, you can look forward to yet another Nintendo console with pitiful 3rd party support that dies 2-3 years in.
The devs only care about "can we sell this and make a profit?" They don't care whether the port is good or bad as long as it turns in a profit (see all Ubisoft PC games ever). They want a player base established and they want compatible hardware. You don't need to kiss their ass or consult them for it.All four of those devs are assholes. Nintendo should be compatible with their hardware. Not the western dev's bitch.
Whether you like them or not, they are the major players in the 3rd party market, not the nearly-irrelevant Japanese publishers. If Nintendo doesn't consult with them in the design of the NX and design it per where they are going with their games, you can look forward to yet another Nintendo console with pitiful 3rd party support that dies 2-3 years in.
- Bethesda vice president Pete Hines says that it's too late for Nintendo to gather third-party support for its Wii U console.
Bethesda currently has no plans to release games for the Nintendo Wii U, and when asked on GameTrailer's Bonus Round show whether there's a chance the company will bring games to the Wii U at some point, Hines said (http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/jyfd3n/bonus-round-questions-from-the-audience), "Honestly, it's not something I spend a lot of time thinking about."
The problem, says Hines, is that Nintendo didn't approach third-party developers early enough into the Wii U's development.
"You have to do what Sony and Microsoft have been doing with us for a long time," he notes. "It's not that every time we met with them we got all the answers that we wanted, but they involved us very early on, talking to folks like Bethesda and Gearbox, saying, 'Here's what we're doing, here's what we're planning, here's how we think it's going to work,' to hear what we thought, from our tech guys, and from an experience standpoint."
Nintendo did not provide any of this upfront legwork, Hines adds, and as such it was much more difficult for companies like Bethesda to choose to support the console.
"You have to spend an unbelieveable amount of time upfront doing that," Hines says. "If you're going to sort of decide 'Well, we're going to make a box and this is how it's going to work, and you should make games for it," - well, no! No is my answer!"
"I'm going to focus on other ones that better support what it is we're trying to do. You've got to spend more time trying to reach out to those folks before you even make the box when you're still designing it and thinking about how it's going to work."
This thread isn't even about Metroid anymore. Nice job, everyone.
This thread isn't even about Metroid anymore. Nice job, everyone.
The Wii U doesn't have a Metroid game, 3D World is a largely-multiplayer game more in line with the New Super Mario Bros. series, and Zelda will not be a Wii U game by this time next year. It's so incredibly obvious at this point that that's an NX game, without question.
The Wii U doesn't have a Metroid game, 3D World is a largely-multiplayer game more in line with the New Super Mario Bros. series, and Zelda will not be a Wii U game by this time next year. It's so incredibly obvious at this point that that's an NX game, without question.
So, Zelda's getting delayed to 2017?
Actually, I suspect NX comes out next Fall, and Zelda's going to be its launch title. Really, what about that pathetic Nintendo Direct Nintendo just did would make you think the Wii U has ANY software releasing next year besides Fire Emblem x SMT? The sales certainly don't give me a reason to think it will, nor Nintendo's focus on 3DS over Wii U. Given Nintendo's pitiful Wii U support lately, there's no way that system lasts another year without a replacement. I think NX gets formerly announced at E3 2016 and then comes out that November.
Actually, I suspect NX comes out next Fall, and Zelda's going to be its launch title. Really, what about that pathetic Nintendo Direct Nintendo just did would make you think the Wii U has ANY software releasing next year besides Fire Emblem x SMT? The sales certainly don't give me a reason to think it will, nor Nintendo's focus on 3DS over Wii U. Given Nintendo's pitiful Wii U support lately, there's no way that system lasts another year without a replacement. I think NX gets formerly announced at E3 2016 and then comes out that November.
The Wii U had a much stronger lineup then the 3DS at this E3. Not really sure where people keep getting the idea the 3DS is being supported more when most of it's games shown were either low budget sequels running off existing engines or already released Japanese games that are just being localized later. Combined with the fact last years E3 wasn't that impressive for the 3DS either, the signs point much stronger to them gearing up more for the NX being a new handheld next year then home console.
Once again, with mobile devices eating away at the traditional handheld market all around the world and especially in Japan, there's no way Nintendo is going to focus on a new home console that could eat away resources they'll need to make sure the next handheld is a success. This is like how back during the Wii era people were so sure the successor would be released in 2011, even though most of their major home console devs releasing games in 2009 and 2010 showed it'd be impossible to do that. The same things is happening right now where most of Nintendo's home console teams have been releasing Wii U games in 2014 and 2015.
The only way the NX can be a home console is if it's like the Wii where it's just a Wii U with more RAM put in it to allow for easier development since the teams can just reuse their Wii U engines with some minor upgrades and we all know how happy that will make some of you. ::) Anyone expecting the NX to be a home console that can rival the PS4/One in power and still be released in Fall 2016 is just setting themselves up for disappointment.
Then we've shown the Metroid franchise the exact same amount of respect that Nintendo has.Not at all the point I was making, but sure
the signs point much stronger to them gearing up more for the NX being a new handheld next year then home console.While not definitive proof:
"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later."
“If we started for Wii U now, it would likely take three years or so. So it would likely now be on Nintendo’s NX console. It’s a long time but it would need to include a lot of content, which would take a lot of work on the development side.”That's two people in separate interviews during the same week who seemed to slip up and call NX Nintendo's next home console.
The Wii U had a much stronger lineup then the 3DS at this E3. Not really sure where people keep getting the idea the 3DS is being supported more when most of it's games shown were either low budget sequels running off existing engines or already released Japanese games that are just being localized later.
Actually, I suspect NX comes out next Fall, and Zelda's going to be its launch title. Really, what about that pathetic Nintendo Direct Nintendo just did would make you think the Wii U has ANY software releasing next year besides Fire Emblem x SMT? The sales certainly don't give me a reason to think it will, nor Nintendo's focus on 3DS over Wii U. Given Nintendo's pitiful Wii U support lately, there's no way that system lasts another year without a replacement. I think NX gets formerly announced at E3 2016 and then comes out that November.Would you like to make a friendly wager?
Perm suggested that consoles are peaking. That's what we all hoped this time, that the need for the PS4 and XB1 wasn't there and those consoles would flop. Well that didn't.Well, the Xbox One, in spite of all the advantages it has, is barely outpacing the Wii U.
Perm suggested that consoles are peaking. That's what we all hoped this time, that the need for the PS4 and XB1 wasn't there and those consoles would flop. Well that didn't.Well, the Xbox One, in spite of all the advantages it has, is barely outpacing the Wii U.
I wouldn't call the PS4 a flop by any means, but it sure ain't burning up any records.
"Peaking" might be a pretty good way to describe it.
The PS4's sold over 21 million units in less than 2 years. I'm pretty sure that's "burning up some records."
didn't the top selling system from the last generation sell something like 40 million units in two years? How is selling half-that burning up any kind of records?Something something casuals something.
Perm suggested that consoles are peaking. That's what we all hoped this time, that the need for the PS4 and XB1 wasn't there and those consoles would flop. Well that didn't.Well, the Xbox One, in spite of all the advantages it has, is barely outpacing the Wii U.
I wouldn't call the PS4 a flop by any means, but it sure ain't burning up any records.
"Peaking" might be a pretty good way to describe it.
The Wii U was made obsolete a year after it came out by those other consoles.And yet, the superior XBox One is barely outpacing the Wii U.. what does that say?
Bringing up the Wii's success in 2015 is about as useful as bringing up the NES's success. Doesn't help Nintendo's bottom line, doesn't sell the current product, has no meaningful impact on Nintendo's future.
The Wii U was made obsolete a year after it came out by those other consoles.And yet, the superior XBox One is barely outpacing the Wii U.. what does that say?
The Wii U was made obsolete a year after it came out by those other consoles.And yet, the superior XBox One is barely outpacing the Wii U.. what does that say?
That Microsoft's initial anti-consumer plans pissed people off and that forcing a Kinect purchase didn't fly. Plus MS has ZERO presence in Japan which skewers the figures if you look at it from a worldwide perspective. How is the Xbox One doing in America and Europe compared to the Wii U?
Though I still don't see the relevance. So consoles aren't doing as well in general this gen as they were last gen. So what? How does that help Nintendo next gen?
The Wii U was made obsolete a year after it came out by those other consoles.And yet, the superior XBox One is barely outpacing the Wii U.. what does that say?
That Microsoft's initial anti-consumer plans pissed people off and that forcing a Kinect purchase didn't fly. Plus MS has ZERO presence in Japan which skewers the figures if you look at it from a worldwide perspective. How is the Xbox One doing in America and Europe compared to the Wii U?
Though I still don't see the relevance. So consoles aren't doing as well in general this gen as they were last gen. So what? How does that help Nintendo next gen?
The Wii U was made obsolete a year after it came out by those other consoles.And yet, the superior XBox One is barely outpacing the Wii U.. what does that say?
That Microsoft's initial anti-consumer plans pissed people off and that forcing a Kinect purchase didn't fly. Plus MS has ZERO presence in Japan which skewers the figures if you look at it from a worldwide perspective. How is the Xbox One doing in America and Europe compared to the Wii U?
Though I still don't see the relevance. So consoles aren't doing as well in general this gen as they were last gen. So what? How does that help Nintendo next gen?
I can't help but think we're having two different conversations.
Console sales have peaked. There's little demand for them world-wide. Wii U sales are in the tank. XBoxOne sales aren't much better (regardless of how you crutch them). PS4 sales aren't bad, but they're nothing to get excited over. All three systems combined probably don't even meet the sales of the market leader by this time last gen (MS and Nintendo are about 10 Million units each while Sony is around 20 - meanwhile, Wii sold like 40 million plus units in two years).
The console market *is* dying. At the very least, it's in hibernation. Did it peak last-generation and we'll never see sales like that again? I dunno.