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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 04:54:48 PM »

"Except for the fact take-two is struggling now. "

Do you just make this stuff up?  It's quarter's up and the only time it's shares dropped when Take-two shot down EA's bid.  Taketwo isn't hurting for greensbacks I can assure you.

Fiscal 2008 -  $97.1 million or $1.28 per share
Fiscal 2007 - LOSS of $138.4 million or $1.93 per share

GP's statement on GTAIV not helping as much as Take Two would have liked stands...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 04:33:09 PM »

Somehow we are still discussing why you think Ian is wrong instead of owning up to you both being extremely immature in your hostile attacks towards him.

Haha, immature...Cute...

Okay Mommy, I'll be good now! 

Again this is why I am comparing this to Zelda Bill.  As others have stated, Zelda TP was delayed for 2+ years so why would you make such a big deal about Square doing the same?

1)  I have never said anything of the sort saying Zelda being delayed was a good business decision...
2)  The budget for any Zelda game is considerably less than FFXIII's...
3)  Nintendo makes far more money than Squenix...

It's certainly more of an issue to consider in Squenix's case than Ninty's...

And Square's still making tons of money with remakes (in fact their profits are actually up with most thanks to DQ and FF) so why wouldn't delay FF for polishing?

No, no, no, no, you aren't looking at this in the business-line of things...The idea of using money from other projects to fund other projects is incredibly flawed...A GOOD business wants to make money on ALL their projects...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 04:15:14 PM »

It was relevant to what he was trying to say because he was discussing the possibility that Nintendo fans were looking on these events more harshly because the game is not on Nintendo's hardware.

Oh awesome, so from now on I can just claim everyone that disagrees with me is a fanboy that can't possibly have any other reason to have that opinion...Thanks for clearing that one up, Pale...

BESIDES ALL OF THAT, it was a minor part of his entire post, and using that to debase his entire point is also ridiculous.

Except his entire point was that we are fanboys that are only "attacking" the game (somehow talking about FACTS about the business decisions surrounding the game is attacking now) because it's not on a Nintendo console...It's a non-argument, Pale...

I don't necessarily think SE is anywhere close to bankrupt so I really don't think there is much to worry about.

No one said they were...yet...They just need to watch themselves with the managing problem they've had since FFXII...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 03:53:36 PM »

In the context of Ian's post, his reference to the Wii library isn't that big of a deal and shouldn't have been made one.

Yes it should, because the topic has absolutely nothing to do with the Wii game library, nor about game quality in general...It's a complete non sequitur...

Actually Ian hit the point on the head Bill--if this was about Zelda the thread would have been closed right at the back.

No it wouldn't...The already-full-of-whining Zelda thread in Console Discussion is proof of that...

Delaying games doesn't matter much as long as the reason is good--I looking at you Too Human .

Look, the issue isn't about bloody game quality...If Final Fantasy fans enjoy their Final Fantasy games, then great, whatever...They can enjoy their what-will-likely-be polished game...But delaying such a big-budget project for so long isn't good for a company with already-dropping revenue...There IS a limit to how much you can delay a product, especially when you have been showing off the same footage for YEARS...Not only is it bad for the company, it annoys the fans for dragging them along by a string and it annoys their fans of their other works, who just want them to get the damn thing over with so they can stick those resources into other pies/franchises...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 02:10:07 PM »

Back when Rare was with Nintendo their delays were seen as annoying but ultimately necessary.

Necessary?  Yes...A good thing?  No, they were annoying, and in the end that poor managing killed Rare...

It will probably still be pretty good though.  Better than any current third party Wii game, I'll bet.

Baseless troll...Try harder...

I think Final Fantasy gets a bad rap from Nintendo fans mostly because of sour grapes.  It started to "suck" right around the time it went to the PS2.

Considering it had THREE games on the PS1, I think you just proved that it has absolutely nothing to do with sour grapes...And actually it started going bad after FFVII (not including the port anthology collections that I think released afterwards), in my opinion...

Square Enix making Dragon Quest for the DS and Wii is considered awesome but because this involves the PS3 and 360 it's considered funny that it's delayed.  You want Square Enix to go under and thus not be able to make Dragon Quest X?  Didn't think so.

Again, stupid generalizations...For example, Golden Phoenix and I both own a PS3 and 360...If I wanted the game I'd get it...The fact is, I don't, and it has nothing to do with it not being on Wii, as much as you pitch a fit about it...Do I want Squenix to go under?  Of course not...I enjoy their original DS games and am cautiously interested in DQIX (because of the fact that random battles have been thrown out the window)...I want Squenix to better manage their games so they can start work on new ones...Oh, and stop throwing around the fanboy card, it just proves you have absolutely nothing to your argument...

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Trademark Hints at Motion Sensitive DS Card

« on: January 19, 2009, 01:14:23 PM »

When Nintendo comes up with new ideas these days it's like the first thing they think is "how can we use this is so lame-o microgame collection?"

It's called business sense...If you are showing off a new idea, the best way to promote it is through simple and varied gameplay mechanics before applying it to more complex games...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 01:09:12 PM »

There's way too much winking going on in here... >=|

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Looks like I'm sleeping on the couch tonight.

« on: January 19, 2009, 01:07:33 PM »

Just get a big garbage bag and empty everything into it...Problem solved!

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Trademark Hints at Motion Sensitive DS Card

« on: January 19, 2009, 11:30:25 AM »

The DS has been in existence for just over 4 years...Why on EARTH would they release DS2 now?

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 19, 2009, 11:02:39 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if they'll hold the PS3 version until the 360 one is releasable.

This is what I predict...The 360 version will outsell the PS3 version anyway, so if they release the PS3 version first, people will end up forgetting about it and not buy it when it finally releases on the 360...Not to mention that it's unlikely that Squenix will separate the releases from each other "to split the sales over the two halves of the fiscal year"...Wada has already mentioned in interviews several times that they want to release games that sell millions within the first weeks of release, and a purposely-delayed release seems to counter that ideology...

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Trademark Hints at Motion Sensitive DS Card

« on: January 19, 2009, 09:14:46 AM »

I'm guessing some kind of Wario Ware game using this is on the horizon, a new version of Twisted would be awesomeness.

This... =)

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Kashogi's how long can he stay sober thread

« on: January 18, 2009, 05:44:56 PM »

That just proves you never REALLY did in the first place... =D

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Trademark Hints at Motion Sensitive DS Card

« on: January 18, 2009, 05:25:35 PM »

Because it really wouldn't make sense to? (Extra costs for something that will be used for a handful of games) Wait for DS2...

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Kashogi's how long can he stay sober thread

« on: January 18, 2009, 05:12:44 PM »

Well, that's beer for you!

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*

« on: January 18, 2009, 04:34:29 PM »

Heeeeeey, you should put that in quotes... =3

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Dead Rising coming to Wii!

« on: January 18, 2009, 02:31:00 PM »

So apparently they took out the jump and there's a stronger focus on guns...Sounds like Capcom is now just seeing how far they can take things before people stop buying Wii ports...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 17, 2009, 11:19:03 PM »

As far as I know, Versus was put on hold quite a while ago (until FFXIII nears completion) and its team members were sent to work on the main title...

That was debunked by Square Enix more than 6 months ago... And even if it wasn't, think of how long they would have been trying to develop 3 related games and 1700 others games at the same time. Poor time management on their part.

Well Squenix didn't have much trouble putting out a bunch of (console) games a year last generation, so clearly they are doing something very wrong... =\

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 17, 2009, 09:50:32 PM »

Final Fantasy XIII is taking forever because Square Enix thought it was a good idea to develop 3 related games at the same time, 2 of which are being developed using an engine they built themselves specifically for these games.

As far as I know, Versus was put on hold quite a while ago (until FFXIII nears completion) and its team members were sent to work on the main title...

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 17, 2009, 08:51:22 PM »

I'm so glad you completely MISSED THE FREAKING POINT.  I don't go around and make totally worthless flamers posts-- like this is one is.

But GP didn't miss the point when you specifically made a poor comparison to Zelda...The fact is, FFXIII is in development hell, and it all boils down to really crappy planning and managing on Squenix's part (be it due to the console or other reasons, it doesn't really matter)...

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General Chat / Re: Your Megaton Game Setup

« on: January 17, 2009, 02:13:17 PM »

You can order Master Sword replicas all over the place online...

And that's a huge flipping Metroid poster you have there!

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General Gaming / Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors

« on: January 17, 2009, 10:18:14 AM »

Game Players was the best magazine ever, why lie?

(Ironically enough, the editor of the current Nintendo Power, Chris Slate, was the editor of Game Players as well...)

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General Chat / Re: Official Avatar Discussion

« on: January 17, 2009, 10:13:06 AM »

Index is one of my favorite heroines ever (not quite Shana levels, but close!) ='D

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Fragile - Namco ARPG

« on: January 17, 2009, 09:12:51 AM »

The game looks a lot more focused on exploration than combat, so that might not be a huge issue...Not that it matters since it won't be localized... =(

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General Gaming / Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west

« on: January 16, 2009, 05:30:17 PM »

Wii 2 port confirmed.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit

« on: January 16, 2009, 04:19:01 PM »

It doesn't even have local multiplayer? Quantum of Solace had local multiplayer, and that game was crap-tastic.

That's a really bad analogy, as if somehow lacking a mode immediately gives demerits to the other ones...Hell, if anything it's more comparable to 360/PS3 games with online-only multi...

Yeah, the game could end up mediocre, but these guys have clearly put a great deal of effort into enhancing the experience for the player, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt...