Looks like a 3D Tales game, which means it looks nice...Good music, too (though old)... =)
Main character appears to be by himself to start off with (of course, they could just have hidden the other characters for now), and he utilizes a mix of swordplay and hand-to-hand styles...
(Oh, and Mothership is obviously not the title, nor the temporary title...I just felt like calling it that since it has no other name...)
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
Why is the effeminate boy hero wearing Elvis clothes?
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 14, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
I think anyone who has the balls to UPPERCUT a golem can wear whatever he bloody well chooses...
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2008, 07:26:35 PM
Will he sing?
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: nickmitch on December 14, 2008, 07:27:36 PM
I look at this, and all I see is win.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2008, 07:49:20 PM
Now, is Namco announcing this so it's not left out of the public mindshare after the DragonTon X announcement? Cuz this still looks very early.
1. No mo-cap? (hard to tell, especially with the stiff Virtua Fighter sidestepping and the robotic town running) 2. Main character is hardly cel-shaded, just like Dawn of Fist. 3. Enemies have zero cel-shading, unlike Dawn of Fist.
And Bill was roomering, in external channels, that the Destiny team is working on this, meaning it's another "it's the first time we're doing 3D" project from Namco 4th-tier devs. WAY TO TRY HARD, THERE.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 14, 2008, 09:29:35 PM
looks good, hope it comes here (didn't bother to watch video)
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: Adrock on December 14, 2008, 10:17:47 PM
Now, is Namco announcing this so it's not left out of the public mindshare after the DragonTon X announcement?
Good luck with that. They're better off waiting. There isn't a bigger game to announce in Japan.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 15, 2008, 12:15:16 AM
Maybe making game announcements with Iwata present (consuming free beer and shrimp) at the conference is the hip thing to do among Japanese game publishers.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 15, 2008, 01:44:43 AM
DivX version of ^trailer
(better DVD source, re-encoded)
>> Tales of Graces (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/tog.html) (TALES SERIESE MOTHERSHIP) December 2008 teaser trailer
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: KDR_11k on December 15, 2008, 04:02:49 AM
Now, is Namco announcing this so it's not left out of the public mindshare after the DragonTon X announcement?
Good luck with that. They're better off waiting. There isn't a bigger game to announce in Japan.
Of course it's not bigger but there's a chance they want to remind gamers that "hey, we're making Wii RPGs too, when you're picking up DQX why not get one of ours as well?).
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 15, 2008, 07:32:57 PM
I see where you're going.
Iwata might not show up to their press conference, maybe they WANT Iwata to step up and share some promotion support as well. Dragon Warrior bombed two decades ago in the West, and DQX will bomb as well, so maybe Namco wants Iwata to realize there are better RPGs to promote. And maybe they'd love to have Nintendo take care of the promotions because they don't want to spend a penny to market another Wii Tales game as well.
According to VG Chartz (lols),
Tales of Vesperia sold 110K copies in the 3.5 months it's been out in the USA
Tales of Awesome: Dawn of Fist already surpassed that, selling 120K in the 4 weeks it's been out.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: KDR_11k on December 16, 2008, 05:11:00 AM
Sales in Europe:
Vesperia: 0 Dawn of Whatever: 0
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: White Mage on December 16, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
I'm actually excited about this. Tales of Symphonia was my first foray into the Tales of... universe and I had a wonderful time with it. There's something about Dawn of the New World that makes me a little bit apprehensive about purchasing it, but the overwhelming popularity of it on this site might make me change my mind.
But this new "mothership" (even with lack of basically any details) has me incredibly excited.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: KDR_11k on December 16, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
Maybe I should continue playing Phantasia but I'm at a point where I have to find some "leader" in a labyrinth of TONS of enemies and that's just too damn tedious.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 18, 2008, 01:25:57 PM
Phantasia has some very tedious stretches. It's ok to stop, i stopped as well after some wacko plot twists.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: broodwars on December 23, 2008, 02:45:43 AM
Ugh...still no cel-shading (Vesperia and Symphonia 1 pretty much established for me that's how this series SHOULD look, just with better animation)? Well, at least the environments look better this time around. I suppose getting any Wii RPG is better than getting none at all...
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: Tanatoes on December 24, 2008, 03:04:29 PM
Yeah, I was shocked by the lack of cell shading, especially after Symphonia. Here's hoping for better from Dragon Quest X. And has anybody seen anything recently on Skies of Arcadia II?
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: mitzuki on January 24, 2009, 12:43:32 AM
hi, I just recently read that this tales of "mothership" is supossed to be the prequel to tales of symphonia,which is set durign kratos, mithos, yuan and martel's travel. The displayed character is supposed to be a young Kratos aurion.
@-@ I dont know but I think this is kinda odd. though it would be awesome to have the prequel of tales of symphonia
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 24, 2009, 12:53:11 AM
Where did you read that?
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 24, 2009, 12:54:53 AM
hi, I just recently read that this tales of "mothership" is supossed to be the prequel to tales of symphonia,which is set durign kratos, mithos, yuan and martel's travel. The displayed character is supposed to be a young Kratos aurion.
You do realize that if this doesn't turn out true I'll have to hunt you down and use you as a sex slave, right? Sorry, there's just no way out of this!
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 24, 2009, 12:57:21 AM
UGH, everyone knows a proper prequel would only focus on Zelos.
Title: Re: Tales of "Mothership"
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 24, 2009, 01:03:54 AM
Hmmm... I would actually like to see Kratos and company in their travels.What went wrong with Mithos.Lots of back story.
Bill and Pro do you know if this is true?
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 01, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Shonen Jump Magazine had a Tales series Blowout. 3 Tales games in 2009
Tales of Vesperia PS3 port with a pirate character named Patty Fleur and also the ToV anime movie is also revealed officially
Tales of VS - PSP - 2009 - Dissidia style 3D versus action fighter - 4 players versus - Yuri (ToV), Luke (TotA), Shing (ToH) and Rihita (ToSKoR) are shown
And finally what we all have been waiting for Tales of Graces for Wii
Tales of Graces - Wii - 2009 - Designs are possibly by Inomata - The main character is Aspel Lant - The theme of the game is protecting people, and the main character doesn't want to lose anyone ever again
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 01, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
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Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: KDR_11k on April 01, 2009, 01:43:42 PM
Tales of Graces - Wii - 2009 - Designs are possibly by Inomata - The main character is Aspel Lant - The theme of the game is protecting people, and the main character doesn't want to lose anyone ever again
"You can't save everyone!" "NOOOOOO!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0QzJJ60E7Y)
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Gylldas on April 01, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
I'm excited about ToV coming to the PS3. It made me seriously consider getting a 360 but I held out on hopes that it would get an enhanced PS3 port. Now hopefully the game'll make it out of Japan.
Glad to see more info on the new game. The last couple tales games I've played, (abyss, symphonia 2), seemed rushed and glitchy so I hope the team is able to take their time and flesh everything out before release.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 01, 2009, 04:07:09 PM
This game is coming out only a year after the latest Tales game was released, by a different team. Which means we can't count on them learning learning from the mistakes of the last two, building on the strengths of the last two, and we'll just end up with another This Generation Tales Spinoff Game that's notably different from its peers without improvements.
Lack of gameplay details is a bad sign.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 01, 2009, 04:35:06 PM
Well Pro the majority of the symphonia team are now working for imageepoch and are making Arc Rise Fantasia.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 01, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Yeah, great, a turn-based game, big whoop.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Kairon on April 01, 2009, 10:57:07 PM
Tales of Graces - Wii - 2009 - Designs are possibly by Inomata - The main character is Aspel Lant - The theme of the game is protecting people, and the main character doesn't want to lose anyone ever again
"You can't save everyone!" "NOOOOOO!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0QzJJ60E7Y)
God I want that now.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 01, 2009, 11:05:20 PM
It's Aspel Rant, not Aspel Lant. http://wii.ign.com/articles/968/968622p1.html
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 02, 2009, 12:12:59 AM
It can be either.
R = L in Japanese katakana.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Ymeegod on April 03, 2009, 11:01:39 PM
Yeah, the USA really doesn't bite the Japanese RPG's anymore (or RPG in general unless you count hybrids like MMO's and Bioshock). DQVIII (great game in case you missed it) sold half million stateside and nearly 4 in japan.
Even Persona 4 didn't even break the 1/4 million mark :(.
I love JRPG's myself and I really don't care about the graphics so long as the gameplay and plot hold up. Hopefully iit no ToS: DNW--bleh.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 03, 2009, 11:39:59 PM
I can already feel the gameplay, animation, and multiplayer lacking in this new one.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 04, 2009, 10:29:14 AM
Yeah, the USA really doesn't bite the Japanese RPG's anymore (or RPG in general unless you count hybrids like MMO's and Bioshock). DQVIII (great game in case you missed it) sold half million stateside and nearly 4 in japan.
Even Persona 4 didn't even break the 1/4 million mark :(.
I love JRPG's myself and I really don't care about the graphics so long as the gameplay and plot hold up. Hopefully iit no ToS: DNW--bleh.
I know that all the 360 JRPGs bombed, Eternal Sonata for PS3 bombed, ToS:DNW did somewhere between 125k - 170k in North America.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 04, 2009, 12:42:47 PM
Even in Japan JRPG's are down in sales (it used to be common for RPG's to crack 1 million there, not so anymore). The genre has gotten stale, I remember interviews when Japanese developers where even they admit that and say western developers have adapted and evolved while most Japanese developers just keep doing the same thing over and over and then wondering why their sales are decreasing.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: RABicle on April 04, 2009, 01:57:43 PM
Cant wait for the sequel, Tales of Story.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 04, 2009, 03:41:42 PM
Oh man, hope to see it at Leipzig.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Ymeegod on April 04, 2009, 04:46:35 PM
"multiplayer lacking in this new one."
? Explain that to me? Tales really doesn't have much in MP options in the past other co-op. Think in DNW you can have one person play with you but that's it. There wasn't any online at all (in fact no tales have online mp-- ToV had some leaderboard but that's it)
I don't see you can jump to the conclusion that this won't have that option as well?
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 05, 2009, 05:11:48 PM
Yeah, the USA really doesn't bite the Japanese RPG's anymore (or RPG in general unless you count hybrids like MMO's and Bioshock). DQVIII (great game in case you missed it) sold half million stateside and nearly 4 in japan.
Even Persona 4 didn't even break the 1/4 million mark :(.
The US likes WRPGs just fine (Mass Effect, Fallout 3, KotOR). But fortunately most of the US hates grinding unless it's an MMO, so JRPGs don't do so well.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 06, 2009, 03:59:42 PM
Some more details Uses Style Shift Linear Motion Battle system Allows character to have more than one fighting style Set skills to A and B button Sidestep movement allows for 360 degree movement around enemies Classic/Classic Pro controller support Animation by Production I.G.
By the looks of things they took DNW's system and added the addition of different fighting styles.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2009, 04:37:52 PM
No, it looks like they took things away.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
I'm boiling with fury at the news.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 10, 2009, 06:17:49 PM
A nice looking trailer (http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2009/04/10/tales-of-graces-and-or-awesome-walking-tank-things/)
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Peachylala on April 11, 2009, 05:44:17 PM
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 22, 2009, 03:09:58 PM
http://tog.namco-ch.net/asx/pv_1m02.asx
LITE ME FIRE, RE-HEATING FROM LUKEWARM TO BOIL
That is the latest trailer for Tales of Loli.
1. This new sidestep thing apparently breaks multiplayer. How retarded. I'll just sidestep around and screw with everyone's camera [control stick] angle. 2. Apparently there's no free-roam, making sidestepping (and some button-based lock-on) a retarded way to maneuver and pick your fights among a crowd of enemies. 3. Every damn hit looks flashy. Visually, it's nice. Practically, is it drawing too much **** on the screen that regular moves create too much visual distraction? 4. Good that the humongoid overworld is implemented, bad that everything is non-celshaded like the PS2 failures. 5. Loli fights like Marta. That is a plus, since Marta is probably the best-playing Tales character ever. 6. Loli has long arching piggy tails, that remind everyone of Presea. 7. Loli is 13, making her a true Loli unlike Presea, to everyone's sick delight.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/180/180648/
Namco has apparently increased the graphics budget for the game. Not only does it have the "hardly cel-shaded" look from their previous low-budget efforts, they've learned how to apply deeper, richer colors using Wii's next generation hardware, and add self-shadowing to the characters.
Still have no damn clue how broken the multiplayer is due to the awful sidestep mechanic.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: broodwars on July 23, 2009, 03:26:24 PM
1. This new sidestep thing apparently breaks multiplayer. How retarded. I'll just sidestep around and screw with everyone's camera [control stick] angle. 2. Apparently there's no free-roam, making sidestepping (and some button-based lock-on) a retarded way to maneuver and pick your fights among a crowd of enemies. 3. Every damn hit looks flashy. Visually, it's nice. Practically, is it drawing too much **** on the screen that regular moves create too much visual distraction? 4. Good that the humongoid overworld is implemented, bad that everything is non-celshaded like the PS2 failures. 5. Loli fights like Marta. That is a plus, since Marta is probably the best-playing Tales character ever. 6. Loli has long arching piggy tails, that remind everyone of Presea. 7. Loli is 13, making her a true Loli unlike Presea, to everyone's sick delight.
Man, that trailer has absolutely horrid Buffer times. I can't get through 4 seconds of it without it needing to spend 5 second buffering.
From the look of the stuff you listed there and what I could see of the trailer, it looks like this game will play very similarly to Symphonia 1. To me at least, that's a good thing. While I still think this game should be truly cel-shaded, it does look dramatically better than Dawn of the New World did. I guess that's what happens when Namco-Bandai are actually trying to make a good Tales game.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2009, 04:10:18 PM
I think all the 3D ones have played very similarly to Symphonia 1 (the Smash Bros. approach), there's no way to escape it. The differences have been in how they refine the mechanics and responsiveness of the supporting characters. Lloyd, being the swordy main guy, was very responsive and animated quickly and combos strung well. Everyone else felt like an afterthought. The returning characters in Dawn controlled noticeably better, but not quite like Emil & Marta.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 24, 2009, 06:40:20 PM
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/Maxi_80/Video%20Games/c20090723_tog_04_cs1w1_640x359.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/Maxi_80/Video%20Games/c20090723_tog_10_cs1w1_640x359.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/Maxi_80/Video%20Games/c20090723_tog_16_cs1w1_640x359.jpg) More Here (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/180/180648/)
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 24, 2009, 06:53:45 PM
Maxi, i linked that already.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: broodwars on July 28, 2010, 01:00:04 PM
Still no word on an English release for Tales of Graces in the US, but in Japan the title is now coming to the PS3 (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1109092p1.html) in the Fall under the name "Tales of Graces F". Considering we still don't have the PS3 port of Vesperia in the US, I wouldn't expect this version of Graces to cross over either.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 05, 2011, 04:22:59 PM
namco, eat ****
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 05, 2011, 04:26:11 PM
Looks like ningurl has lost it. Time to call the men in white coates.
*reaches for phone.*
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 05, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
NO! NOT HERE
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Crimm on January 05, 2011, 05:11:04 PM
Do not reference that site on this message board. It's the Thunderdome and I'm Mel Gibson (minus the antisemitism and domestic abuse).
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: ymeegod on January 06, 2011, 11:37:41 AM
LOL it's nice to NinGurl69 still visits though, recall he was a big fan of ToS 2 on the WII. While I disagree with him about that game, I'll have to agree with him about Namco though.
There's most likely not going be an official translation to the states but a few fans are working on an unofficial rom translation--similar to Tales of Innocence DS.
Not really fond of "privating" but I'll end getting the rom and I'll end up buying an official Japanese version of it as well.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Crimm on January 06, 2011, 01:01:41 PM
I did actually like ToS 2 for what it was. The decision to only have two characters (until the mass exodus of ToS characters, but still it was THEIR story) was rather unique for a jRPG. I think it helped cover the blemishes of a story whose slogan was "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality."
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Ymeegod on January 15, 2011, 05:41:52 AM
Rumor speading again, back in dec 2010 that they are indeed localizing an Amercian release and so far this wasn't shot down from the official forum admin like they did last time in Jan 10' so maybe there's hope. Rumor was it's still coming (a year+ late) in NA at a reduce cost of $40 plus you'll be getting the F version which was an PS3 exclusive. I'll give it a few more months, if we don't hear anything about it by May then I doubt it ever will be.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Crimm on January 15, 2011, 05:22:45 PM
Rumor speading again, back in dec 2010 that they are indeed localizing an Amercian release and so far this wasn't shot down from the official forum admin like they did last time in Jan 10' so maybe there's hope. Rumor was it's still coming (a year+ late) in NA at a reduce cost of $40 plus you'll be getting the F version which was an PS3 exclusive. I'll give it a few more months, if we don't hear anything about it by May then I doubt it ever will be.
Where did you see that?
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: broodwars on February 02, 2011, 04:41:55 PM
Tales of Graces F, the PS3 port, has been announced (http://www.ataleoftworichards.com/) for North America. Interesting, though I would have prefered the PS3 port of Vesperia. I played a bit of the Graces F Japanese demo, and found it kind of underwhelming.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Mop it up on February 02, 2011, 07:29:08 PM
That's pretty vague, the page doesn't even say which system it's coming to. Somehow I doubt it's for Wii.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: broodwars on February 02, 2011, 07:46:51 PM
That's pretty vague, the page doesn't even say which system it's coming to. Somehow I doubt it's for Wii.
Tales of Graces F was a PS3-exclusive port of the original Wii game. I agree that the release date is vague, but there's no doubt what platform the game will belong to when it comes over here (unless Namco-Bandai decides to port the game to the 360 for its Western release as well).
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: KDR_11k on February 03, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
I hope they do, the PS3 is the one system I don't have.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: Ymeegod on May 12, 2011, 01:49:47 AM
There's a new date for the NA release, 1st Quarter 2012. Damn, it's still a long ways off but it's better than nothing and hopefully we at least get all the New DLC content as a free bonus for waiting that long.
Title: Re: Tales of Graces
Post by: broodwars on May 12, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
There's a new date for the NA release, 1st Quarter 2012. Damn, it's still a long ways off but it's better than nothing and hopefully we at least get all the New DLC content as a free bonus for waiting that long.
You realize that this is going to be the PS3 version of the game, right? Because it's "Tales of Graces F" (the PS3 port), not "Tales of Graces" (the Wii original).
