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Originally posted by: Michael8983
If a site from Brazil says it, it MUST be true! 
Since MS and Nintendo are using the same chip manufacturer, I could maybe see them agreeing to give their consoles nearly identicle architecture to make cross-platform development super easy. That would be a great benefit to third-parties, especially if the PS3 is going to be very difficult to port to/from as rumored. But it would have to be something small like that.
Nintendo is one of the most respected and praised companies in the Japanese business world. Actually teaming up with MS or any big, American company would destroy its reputation in a heartbeat. It just won't happen.
And I agree that it's unfair for the article to imply MS has some kind of technological superiority when it comes to to console design.
The Gamecube has been praised by many developers as the easiest console to
develope for, it's proven itself to be about as powerful as the XBox without having to be nearly as bulky, and it's a hell of a lot cheaper to manufacture. There's a very good argument there that Nintendo did a better job designing its current console than MS did.
Well said Michael.
In summory this is my long wounded thoughts on the issue of trolls going around forums trying to speculate the most outrageous ideas, but whom whikle doing so, always manage to put Nintendo down and somehow raise the credibility of M$ at the same time.
M$ are The Borg. They are just consuming Nintendo for furthering their plague.
Note: repeated lines throughout this post are used for penetrating those "brick wall minds" we all know as forum apes.
Its clearly evident Nintendo is in search of the most polished realtime gameplay experience (regarding electronic gaming), using the most efficient/balanced hardware (available during the era)
that is built around the software it actually creates.Its also evident that because Nintendo neglects to focus on case design aesthetics/appearance that Nintendo is not aiming to draw in mainstream markets or markets that are influenced by "image perceptions" as a result of aesthetics. Nintendo is way past the n00b stage $ony & M$ are going through. Nintendo is not in search of the largest 3rd Party support either, but rather the cream of the crop.
Nintendo is in search of evolving the electronic gaming industry, no other industry.
Nintendo is focused on evolving hardware & software not evolving the console casing or disc cases. Oops theres a slot for your memory card inside Gamecube software cases, I reluctantly take that back.
However its not clearly evident what $ony & now M$ are doing in the gaming industry. Well not evident to the general gaming community and most online forum boards it appears.
Both $ony & now M$ appear to have been "using" the gaming industry to finance and prop-up their other industries which would struggle as stand-alone.
Both $ony & now M$ would like to exploit and most likely dictate and/or control the lounge-room multi-media set-top-box and its data contents when conditions & technology are right for it to boom and $ony & now M$ want to be there when that industry booms, so in the meantime are just using the gaming industry.
$ony knew that disc media could one day store their Movie or Music data they publish, however there is fierce competition in hi-fi or VCR or DVD appliances sectors, therefore $ony improvised by "using" the gaming industry to make inroads and found the mellow/passive Nintendo no threat to $ony's goals.
M$ will not even ever scratch the surface of $ony's market dominance if M$ do not acquire Nintendo because as we have all seen, Sega & Tecmo is no where near enough to prop-up M$ let alone being a profitable venture.
Its staggering that lunatic fanboys in forum boards are intentionally self-claiming Nintendo must go 3rd Party or need M$'s support in order to survive, to disrupt the industry vibe and create panic or other agendas not in Nintendo's favour.
Nintendo has for the past decade fended off any desperate proposals of being consumed by any non-gaming-only companies because Nintendo want to specialise in their field of expertise and allow the Phillips companies to specialise in their field of expertise (Biotechnology).
$ony has always been a pro-multi-media corporation. Common knowledge is M$ have always been control freaks, (for more information just ask EA, as I dont want to go into the PC industry debacle) and it appears $ony is making huge grounds in being the number 1 household brandname which has M$ extremely pissed-off at the fact. Number household brandname not for the gaming industry, Im talking about every household industry known to mankind.
95% of todays gamers are oblivious that $ony intend on taking on Phillips (the industry leader in Domestic Biotechnology) as the biggest future market of all (way bigger than all of the windows OS versions put together) in connecting home security (alarms), home entertainment (TVs, consoles, set-top-boxes, cable-TV boxes, hi-fi, cameras) home appliances (heating-air conditioning), home phone, home server, home lighting, home cleaning (vaccum or dishwash), mobile handhelds (mobile phones, PDAs or game units), Robotic pets, Excersize Bikes (I see Konami and $ony owning that market), Home Fitness, Phillips Mirrors that can sense if your hangover from drinking and automatically dim the room lights for you etc.
The idea is that all of these technologies would be running on the same chipset & OS eg. CELL & Linux, which would be able to communicate to each other, ie. one CELL chipset communicating exchanging data with another CELL chipset as you move about the household etc. User would have access to any household appliance sitting on their lounge through the use of a universal PDA which could remotely function any of the connected technologies.
Walls that partition each room in households will have nanotechnology embedded in them that run the technologies and eventually the idea is that individual households themselves will be part of a CELL community and where households could even automatically communicate to each other, simple example would be a household catches on fire and automatically alarms neighboring households or if a Power Line down the street is down due to accident, households would automatically be informed through the CELL infrastructure etc.
The Fridge would automatically know when the user had just had a workout session on the Home Fitness computerised equipment and the Fridge would have the user's favourite drink on hand ready to serve or certain diet specification ready to serve due to the calories that where just burned off etc.
Thats where many "gamers" have failed to visualise IBMs vision of the CELL chipsets all being used together in a grid to exchange information and generate power in processing, and running our future world efficiently not just effectively.
Just as Nintendo has almost perfected the balance in realtime gaming experiences, IBM will perfect gridded CELL networks that communicate in realtime.
IBM (having the largest Sattelite in orbit) is one of the technology industry leaders, thats why Nintendo asked IBM to design the efficient CPU for the Gamecube and thats why $ony has finally identified IBM's superior technology wealth and have joined up with IBM in a so-so effort to put the squeeze on Nintendo, as Nintendo's continued presence in the gaming industry (no matter how passive, be that as it may) is only holding back $ony's profits Sony is accumulating in order to finance the CELL technology that $ony wants to incorporate in its product range.
$ony's ego was "way insulted" when Nintendo gave $ony the flick as one of the technology component producers for a previous Nintendo console. (Well in my opinion Panasonic produces better drives than $ony anyway but thats beside the point).
$ony is forever revengefully trying to disprove Nintendo's decision in being faithful to its traditional heritage as being wrong, but $ony doesnt realise or care to question that $ony are an expanding corporation that dont really specialise in one field which is what Nintendo has been about for the past 200 years.
M$ is merely the Westernised equivalency of $ony.
They are both corporate consumers that devour industries in the search for the other industry around the corner that will be in vogue or in need once IBM and Phillips get the real things happening.
Nintendo is in search of evolving the gaming industry not evolving multi-media industries. Nanotechnology will one day fulfill Miyamoto's dreams but by then $ony & M$ will have devoured & scavenged the gaming industry and have complete control over it because of the influence or incentives they have over the mainstream markets.
Nintendo is in search of evolving the gaming industry. Not "using" the industry for ulterior motives. Not "dictating" the industry for control-freak motives.
Gamers are claiming $ony's next platform's data medium may be too large to fully be used up etc.
Gamers have to get with the program and identify that $ony is not a gaming-only-company but exploits the gaming industry by merging in its other forms of entertainment (movies & music it publishes before it got into gaming).
$ony's next-gen game disc may hold games/audio soundtrack of the games/and movies all together on the one disc.
If Nintendo in the next-gen invented the most advanced game or peripheral ever invented it still couldnt compete with $ony and their future plans on keeping the mainstream install userbase at all costs. In many cases full-on Anime movie episodes will be included with the Anime inspired game which would totally own the mainstream marketshare and outdo the mainstream incentives M$ will have to devise to lure mainstream gamers to its generic platform.
What all the billions of little anti-Nintendo fanboys across the net should do is focus less on forums with Nintendo bashing or Nintendo proposals on how to gain mainstream marketshare back and rather should spend more time on learning how to develop games.
And the only way M$ could ever even come close to having a future install userbase thats almost 1/3 of the size of $ony's is if M$ aggressively purchased Acclaim, Rockstar, Vivendi, and Atari etc.
But by then $ony will be rolling out CELL technologies in entertainment appliances so then M$ will be bringing out its own generic range of Digital Cameras, MP3 players, Pet Robots, etc running its own inter-relating chipset/OS, that once again (judging by the Xbox) hardly anyone will buy.
In fact in my opinion the Oxford Dictionary definition of generic should be changed to M$.
Nintendo quickly identified the reason why Atari is no longer with us producing gaming platforms (quality control is where its at if you take pride in the industry/service you are prividing) and Nintendo in todays day and age still doesnt want to take part in other platforms that dont have strict quality control. The majority of the Gamecube 3rd Party games that get canned are either extremely "iffy" ports that sold mediocre on the previous platform they where out on (eg Xbox) or got seriously canned in the reviews department, therefore the risk of releasing the now-canned title is huge considering the quality control and classy software competition Nintendo platforms possess.
A lot of anti-Nintendo fanboys in forums across the net for purposes of creating unstability and negative perceptions, self-claim Nintendo must go 3rd Party developer for M$ in order for Nintendo to survive because M$ with previously bankrupt $ega cannot take on $ony alone.The same fanboys are now speculative claiming that Rare, Klobb, Factor5 DivX, ATI etc are all linked as an indicator (well the Rare and Klobb one is a no brainer) that M$ is trying to devour the unwilling Nintendo.
These fanboys are unwillingly to either comprehend or identify that M$'s arrogant disrespect for Nintendo or arrogant disrespect for Nintendo's decisions it makes on its own accord without asking M$'s permission, will furthermore alienate M$ in the gaming industry. M$ already has a bad reputation yet it has a knack for arrogance against other companies in that exist in whatever the industry M$ like to devour. Its absurd enough Nintendo are not left alone by M$ but Nintendo is also tormented by them on top of it.
Even if M$ publicly apologised to Nintendo for its continued disrespect of Nintendo, its peripherals or its franchises and Dill Gates also kissed Miyamoto's left ass check for the apologetic, suck-up, publicity stunt, Nintendo would still pay no attention to M$ as Nintendo never did consider it was in competition with M$ and has ignored M$ altogether all along while Nintendo focuses on its platforms and its franchises and its future without the aid of dictators.
You dont see millions of Apple fanboys in forum boards, raving like lunatics that Steve Wozniak should sell off all of Apple Computers to M$ because Apple only has 1/20th or whatever of an install userbase to M$ PC systems. Amazingly, Apple computers are superior and seem to have its own market (no matter how small it is compared to other cheaper mediocrity on offer) and Apple aim to that market. Amazingly when the exact same situation is applied to Nintendo (even though its seriously doubtful M$ would ever have a hugely bigger install userbase than Nintendo, unless M$ gave their console platform away for free) raving fanboy lunatics come up with imaginary leaks, imaginary foreseeable futures, imaginary doom forecasts, when all along the past 2 decades have apparently just flashed before their eyes, all to know avail, regarding facts.
M$'s obvious need for acquiring Nintendo to take on $ony may be linked to ATI now working on one of Nintendo's competing platforms, but in reality ATI is more concerned with crushing its competition nVidia, the reason why they have signed up M$ also, not just Nintendo. Its even possible that ATI will own the Apple Mac GPU market it appears.
So in theory nVidia & M$ couldnt take on ATI & Nintendo but ATI & Nintendo & M$ can take on nVidia.
ie. In case you cant read between the lines, its M$ thats done the "bowing out" here, not Nintendo, as much as a lot of the anti-Nintendo fanboys would have liked to claim.
Nintendo has no need for M$ and has no need for a Universal Software Data Format to assist Nintendo in making profits. Never has, never will.
Nintendo has no need for M$ and has no need for a Universal Software Data Format to assist Nintendo in making profits. Never has, never will.
ie. In case you cant read between the lines, it is M$ that has a need for Nintendo and has a need for a Universal Software Data Format, as this time around M$ dont have $ony to hold their hand with the Universal DVD format as $ony plan to introduce its own Proprietory Software Data Format for the first time, instead of a Mainstreamed Universal Format, which is less risky and more easily accepted of course, which also leaves M$ all alone, no mainstream medium to hold their hand and extremely vulnerable.
Each generation Nintendo has comfortably relinquished mainstream install userbases by having Proprietory Software Data Formats AND has comfortably made billions of profits from it.
Each generation Nintendo has comfortably relinquished mainstream install userbases by having Proprietory Software Data Formats AND has comfortably made billions of profits from it.
(One would hate to think how many different Nintendo consoles would be in households if Nintendo didnt care for piracy and only cared for install userbase units sold using whatever data medium was mainstream at the time but its not in Nintendo's interest).
Its time for these forum apes to once and for all think logical not fanboy-istic or at least get some facts right.
M$ has lost billion$ on the Xbox and most likely intends to lose more billion$ on the Xbox's successor platform while M$ attempt to build up brand loyalty & userbase, and find a way to make Online Gaming profitable to sustain.
Nintendo has proven countless generations that it is here to stay, whereas the competition give the illusion that they are here to stay, because of the other-industry assets behind their corporation which can finance the losses they make in order to gain the bigger marketshare than the competitor. Theres clearly a difference. Nintendo may forever have a smaller userbase than $ony, but profits and software awards are hardly in $ony's favour. Whether you, ie. the raving lunatic fanboy, agree with Nintendo's decisions or not or whether M$ agrees with Nintendo's decisions, is beside the point, go buy the alternative platform that suits your needs if need be but dont disrespect Nintendo in an effort to bring them down like M$ has been doing.
And for fvcks sake dont impose I should buy this console or Nintendo should go 3rd Party to M$, because I am not a newbie mainstreamer that you find helping M$ fight the war it cant win legitimately, but I am an oldschool, evolved, Nintendo gamer, who will prove to you in 2 decades time how stupid all the panic-station induced fanboys tryhard-tried to portray Nintendo to be in some sort of need of becoming mainstream when CLEARLY if the past 2 decades have not even given you an indication that Nintendo can survive your worst fears or forced wishes, then nothing can penetrate that brick of an ape-like mind of yours.
Chose one of these platforms/scenarios to align yourself with if you may please, but most of all try to enjoy your gaming, without the lingering thought in the back of your mind of what Nokia or M$, Klobb and American Analists will negative claim-announce "image-destroy" about Nintendo next week.
Because there is nothing worse than a spoilt loser. No Seriously.< /end raving lunatic rant>
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