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Offline UncleBob

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Umm... Hey, TJ....
« on: July 03, 2013, 09:04:36 PM »
So... What were some of the details on these past cases?  Like, can you remember specific companies involved?  Defendants?  Any specific game titles?
Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 09:47:41 PM »
i think its safe to say if you can't get an answer after asking the question 17 times those details can be found in his

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 09:54:22 PM »
I'm simply trying to give him plenty of opportunity to provide an answer.  I really would like to read up on these cases.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 10:05:45 PM »
I sense my presence will be required in this thread and I have no idea why.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 10:33:05 PM »
I have no idea what this is about...but I like it.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 10:37:44 PM »
I have no idea what this is about...but I like it.

This.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 11:11:47 PM »
For the love of god, you know damn well he's not going to admit he was wrong, and no one here needs to be convinced that he's a pompous know-it-all ass, so really all you're doing is annoying the rest of us.

It's like piracy. TJ Spyke is a dirty rotten pirate, and UncleBob, the moderator/publisher, is trying to stop him, but the measures he's taking aren't stopping TJ Spyke from being a horrible poster, and are only serving to interfere with normal, law abiding forum members.

What I'm basically saying is that UncleBob=EA.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 11:21:20 PM »
Amazing stuff. I better make sure not to record any videos of my kids playing with Nintendo toys or riding their bikes and put them on YouTube, or TJ will attack me for copyright infringement. I'll get scared when he says people have been sued for doing that and swiftly take down my videos.

If only there was some kind of online encyclopedia that would have links to information about what is Fair Use and what is not, maybe citing court cases if there are any...some type of encyclopedia where people could find new information and add it, like a wiki. Do you think TJ knows any sites like that?
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 11:23:07 PM »
Insanolord=Zynga?
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 11:33:59 PM »
Yeah but EA is the Zynga of UncleBobs
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 01:17:47 AM »
His ego must be crushed so we can rebuild it into something that is tolerable. Let the campaign begin!
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 01:19:17 AM »
I like how Insanso said that TJ of all people was a pirate.

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2013, 01:27:00 AM »
so who was it that gave me the advice to "agree to disagree" (in reference to Tj no less)? :D :D

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 02:05:09 AM »
I'm not disagreeing with him.  I'm asking for more information regarding his statement.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2013, 02:28:31 AM »
I would love to see what he comes up with since I am pretty sick and tried of him making baseless assertions, not putting up and running away. Not forgetting the constant strawmanning, deflections, selective reading, context hiding and the bloody worse of all "Because TJ said so".

**** that noise.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2013, 04:01:13 AM »
I like how you guys are making a big deal out of what was a hideously boring argument to begin with.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2013, 08:19:50 PM »
His ego must be crushed so we can rebuild it into something that is tolerable. Let the campaign begin!

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 10:11:09 PM »
I don't think this counts as taking the high road. Treating assholery with more assholery doesn't solve the problem.

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 10:15:15 PM »
You must be kidding yourself, he has always been like this.

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 10:24:16 PM »
High road? **** the high road. I want answers.
So... What were some of the details on these past cases?  Like, can you remember specific companies involved?  Defendants?  Any specific game titles?
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2013, 10:26:09 PM »
You must be kidding yourself, he has always been like this.
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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2013, 10:59:28 PM »
to be fair I'm pretty bad with strawmans as well but I don't get into many debates anymore (if i do i usually pull out when I can) because I already have a bad rep around here,

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2013, 11:02:10 PM »
I'm just putting this out there, like, as a point of discussion, but are any of us lawyers?

Heck, are any of us paralegals?

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2013, 11:05:54 PM »
unclebob is a self proclaimed armchair lawyer :D

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Re: Umm... Hey, TJ....
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2013, 12:56:30 AM »
You must be kidding yourself, he has always been like this.

This.

But this goes beyond that.  I'm not even asking TJ to back up his opinion or to prove someone else's opinion wrong.

TJ came into thread and stated "facts".  These "facts" were supposed to be based off of "past cases".  I'm asking for details - any details - about these "past cases".

I'm merely asking TJ to provide the information that he claims he read.

For a guy who pops into any assortment of threads and adds little facts, details or corrections that he says he doesn't get off of Wikipedia, he should be able to provide *something* about these cases he read about.

That's all I'm asking for.

If these cases really do exist, I'd like to read more about them.  If they don't exist, then TJ should just come forward and say "They don't exist."

And seriously, if I wanted to really pick on TJ, I'd point out the irony in him giving his uneducated (as in no legal schooling) opinion on the legality of something and expecting anyone to agree with him, then saying that the article that oohhboy provided shouldn't mean anything because it's just the opinions of someone who doesn't know anything about copyright law... then, when it's pointed out that the individual is very educated in copyright law and has fought several cases, well, the opinion still shouldn't count because even Supreme Court Justices can't agree on what's legal.  Or something.

But I didn't point that out - because I just want him to provide the factual information that he said he read about so that I can read it as well.

For example, when I talked about a specific case, I actually gave details from a specific case.  I did this because I respect my fellow peers here on NWR well enough that if they actually want to read up on it, then I'm giving them enough information to do so.  I'm not just going to sit back and expect anyone to just blindly take my word for it.

Back to these "past cases" - I haven't been able to find anything and I'm surprised that none of the articles that have ran on any of the gaming sites that I've read since the initial story broke even referenced them.  Now, current gaming media is... lackluster to say the best, but it's odd that not even the comments sections anywhere seem to specifically reference any past cases.

Therefore, I'm relying on TJ - as the only person who seems aware of the situation *and* has knowledge of these "past cases" to share his information to such a point to where I can do my own reading and research on them.  It's not unreasonable.

And if they don't exist, then all that needs to be said is "They don't exist."
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