Author Topic: super smash bros melee talk (Read 16514 times)

oohhboy · « **Reply #50 on:** June 02, 2003, 02:56:07 AM »

Damn it 220man, you are not very perceptive are you? I can link you to an actual picture of me on file if you want.

Edit: Damn the file is gone off the PGC sver along with a million other photos.

220man · « **Reply #51 on:** June 02, 2003, 02:58:34 AM »

gee, ummm okay.

keep it to PM,s now k?

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #52 on:** June 02, 2003, 07:45:40 AM »

220man, Pichu rocks. Having it damage itself is half the challenge. If you can win a battle with a player that hurts itself, that shows that you're really good. However, it does have advantages over Pikachu, like shortness, speed, and the fact that most people ignore it.

I had to go back and type "it" after every time I typed "he". . .

InfiniDragon615 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 02, 2003, 09:27:25 AM »

Um, last I checked, Pichu kinda sucks tier-wise. It hurts itself, has less power than Pika, and flies out of the ring easy. The only character that sucks worse than Pichu is Mew2...

Luigi is indeed a bit better than Mario is, since Mario is the well-rounded character of the game. Characters like him usually aren't top tier. But Dr. Mario owns them both, because he's got more power than the other two and his speed isn't really hindered like Roy to Marth or Ganondorf to Falcon. His Forward B move also reaches farther than Mario's, making it more effective for stopping attacks.

The known top tiers in the US from several tournament results are Sheik, Fox, Falco, Marth and Peach. It is being debated whether Pika, Dr. Mario and Samus are considered top notch though.

Rogue · « **Reply #54 on:** June 02, 2003, 10:03:47 AM »

Dude, Mewtwo is awesome!

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #55 on:** June 02, 2003, 11:04:13 AM »

Mewtwo is very good if you can use him.

I'm not actually saying Pichu is that good; he's a weaker, but quicker, Pika clone. However, being able to use him well just shows how good you are. Just barely beating someone playing Pichu by using, say, Fox, is unimpressive. Fox is much more powerful than Pichu, so the person playing with Pichu obviously has more skill, even though he lost. Pichu is just a sign of skill.

Plus he's fun to beat up. That's why I like him so much.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #56 on:** June 02, 2003, 11:55:52 AM »

You guys don't seem to know much about the stats in Melee do you? Pichu's electric attacks do MORE damage that Pikachus...

220man - It's not that HAL was lazy when it came to the clones, it's because they didn't have enough time. SSBM was originally on track for a launch title, but they couldn't do that so they settled for just after GCN launch...If they had time they wouldn't do clones.

Same with Halo. Bungie had to cut both Co-op LAN play and bots to make the deadline.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #57 on:** June 02, 2003, 12:32:05 PM »

Still both great games..........SSMB is better when playing straight up 4 player than Halo.

Anyways, I don't care about clones, there fine with me....there's enough different (speed power) to make a difference in your attack defense strategy.

kennyb27 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 02, 2003, 04:24:13 PM »

I wouldn't even go so far as to call them clones. I mean, sure they look and may appear to play similarly, but the differences in their gameplay mechanics can be endless. The lighter but more powerful Pichu vs. the heavier but less powerful Pikachu. Or the basic attacks of Mario to the more timely attacks of his "clone" in Luigi. I just don't think it is fair to call them clones and blame it on HAL, saying they didn't work hard or long enough on the game.

ShockingAlberto · « **Reply #59 on:** June 02, 2003, 05:42:49 PM »

Pichu actually has the greatest forward Smash of any of the Pokemon. If you know how to play well with Pichu, you can avoid doing a lot of damage to yourself. Pichu's major disadvantage (aside from the obvious) is his weight. Pikachu gets tossed around, but not as badly as his pre-evolutionary counterpart.

-- ShockingAlberto

Rogue · « **Reply #60 on:** June 03, 2003, 12:15:44 AM »

I wouldn't call Luigi a clone of Mario. He's based on him, but his moves are too different for him to be a real clone. Dr. Mario is Mario's official clone.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #61 on:** June 03, 2003, 12:41:31 AM »

The Hammer Bros. could've easily been the Ice Climber clones. HOW BADASS WOULD THAT BE!!??

Gamefreak · « **Reply #62 on:** June 03, 2003, 01:32:11 AM »

Luigi is not a clone of Mario.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #63 on:** June 03, 2003, 04:39:07 AM »

Nah, there were no clones in the first smash bros, and he was in that. Their moves are similar, but heck, they're brothers.

Monkey man · « **Reply #64 on:** June 03, 2003, 08:00:04 AM »

Neo the hacker are you a real hacker?

Andi 28 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 03, 2003, 01:12:40 PM »

I wouldn't say clone
But I would say smiliar
However this is one of the only down sides of SSBM as most of the unlocked characters are smiliar to one's that you have from the start.
Another example of this is Link and little Link

kennyb27 · « **Reply #66 on:** June 03, 2003, 01:48:40 PM »

But, does it really matter if they are similar? I mean the differences in Link and Young Link can easily be found and exploited in gameplay. I enjoyed being Young Link while I considered Link to sometimes be too cheap (when my friend can stand across the board and continuously shoot arrows at me, that's when I know it's a little cheap).

ShockingAlberto · « **Reply #67 on:** June 03, 2003, 02:18:53 PM »

Wait a second - arrow shooting takes skill. I've got it down to such an art that, while falling, I can hit people seven or eight feet away from me. It doesn't do much damage, but it's a great psychological toy.

-- ShockingAlberto

kennyb27 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 03, 2003, 04:05:27 PM »

ShockingAlberto, I couldn't agree more. But when his (my friend's) entire arsenal cosisted of this, well, let's just say I got annoyed.

Ninja X · « **Reply #69 on:** June 03, 2003, 04:39:01 PM »

Luigi is da sh_t.

Don't mess with Luigi. I rule just about every single person I know with him. Bring on Melee 2, HAL, and have Luigi as a starting character.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #70 on:** June 03, 2003, 05:23:14 PM »

My friend psychs me out with Fox's lasers. I know it shouldn't bother me, especially when he only hits me once or twice every ten seconds, but it just drives me crazy for some reason.

Geo_Cube2k2 · « **Reply #71 on:** June 03, 2003, 05:50:57 PM »

No one hear plays Mr. Game & Watch??
Man that guy is just to fun to play with. You can't beleive how I make fun at my friends (and sister) when I finally hit The Judgement Day #9, including for the win. And his taunt really puts a dent to my opponent's mentallity.
I also use Yoshi, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Luigi, and Mario.
Then when I really need to flatter myself I use Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Marth, Roy, Fox, Falco basicly every character except for Donkey Kong, Ness, Cpn. Falcon, Bowser, and Peach.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #72 on:** June 04, 2003, 02:22:03 AM »

Peach is my peach. My sweetie.

NThumb · « **Reply #73 on:** June 04, 2003, 11:47:32 PM »

I really don't like playing Game and Wacth but he has attacks are really good for combos and jugleing. My best chatrater has to be Marth because i use his seed to beat up people. Plus he has great A attacks.

CRiXy · « **Reply #74 on:** June 06, 2003, 11:37:03 PM »

Someone please tell me, HOW DO YOU USE LUIGI?! He sucks, I can't use him, he was so much better on N64.

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