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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2007, 10:07:32 AM »
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But in a monster film, wouldn't it seem more realistic for the "cameramen" to be spazzing out all over the place?  Sure it might be more vomit-inducing, but most home movies tend to be!


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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2007, 10:57:32 AM »
Why would the cameraman spaz out?  He knows it's just a movie.

Shaky cam destroys immersion by reminding me that I'm just watching.

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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2007, 11:02:32 AM »
He's saying since it is from the perspective of the people in the event (in this case, the camera man is just another character in the movie) it makes it seem all the more real.

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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2007, 11:30:04 AM »
I understood him just fine, and it doesn't seem more real.  More real would be seeing the events with my own eyes.  Having the fact that I'm not shoved in my face does the exact opposite.  I can't forget I'm watching a movie when the movie keeps reminding me that the cameraman even exists.

(Of course, "more real" goes out the window anyway when we're talking about giant monsters.)

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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2007, 11:32:26 AM »
One of my friends showed me this, and he came up with some theory claiming it was a Power Rangers movie for adult audiences. Mostly it was based on the whole giant-thing-in-a-city-throwing-stuff, but also because at one point someone shouts "where's Jason!?!" Jason was the original Red Ranger.

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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2007, 11:36:13 AM »
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One of my friends showed me this, and he came up with some theory claiming it was a Power Rangers movie for adult audiences. Mostly it was based on the whole giant-thing-in-a-city-throwing-stuff, but also because at one point someone shouts "where's Jason!?!" Jason was the original Red Ranger.

The scary thing is, I don't know if he was kidding or not...


LOL that'd be so lame . . . but hilarious none the less.

Go adult power rangers! "Hey guys . . . its mother f****** morphin' time! B!tches!"

One thing I laughed about in this trailer was the "main characters" name being Rob and him going to Japan. Since that is something I want to do in the near future and well you guessed it my name is Rob and I do live relatively close to NYC . . . maybe it's an omen X_X!

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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2007, 11:37:01 AM »
That would really....



suck.

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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2007, 12:12:10 PM »
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I understood him just fine, and it doesn't seem more real.  More real would be seeing the events with my own eyes.  Having the fact that I'm not shoved in my face does the exact opposite.  I can't forget I'm watching a movie when the movie keeps reminding me that the cameraman even exists.

(Of course, "more real" goes out the window anyway when we're talking about giant monsters.)

But that would be the point of filming the movie in shaky-cam mode!  If anything it should be scarier because it feels more like you are watching an incident that actually happened rather than one you know took place in a CG studio...
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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2007, 12:20:52 PM »
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I understood him just fine, and it doesn't seem more real.  More real would be seeing the events with my own eyes.  Having the fact that I'm not shoved in my face does the exact opposite.  I can't forget I'm watching a movie when the movie keeps reminding me that the cameraman even exists.

(Of course, "more real" goes out the window anyway when we're talking about giant monsters.)

But that would be the point of filming the movie in shaky-cam mode!  If anything it should be scarier because it feels more like you are watching an incident that actually happened rather than one you know took place in a CG studio...


Yeah I agree.

Plus Partybear you asked "Why would the cameraman spaz out?" Which is why I wasn't sure you understood what he meant. If you were filming a catastrophic event and you were running for your life I'm sure it would end up looking the same haha.

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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2007, 12:38:13 PM »
After reading Sir_Stabbalot's post I do get this creepy feeling that it is going to be a Power Rangers movie.

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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2007, 12:43:09 PM »
That'd be one of the biggest "Insta-flaccid" moments of my life, right after UncleBob posting his nipple on the internets... ;_;
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2007, 04:17:48 PM »
muwahahaha, uncle bobs nipple was funny!

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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2007, 05:50:24 PM »
You're a sick man, Perm... ;_;  
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« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2007, 05:10:39 AM »
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I understood him just fine, and it doesn't seem more real.  More real would be seeing the events with my own eyes.  Having the fact that I'm not shoved in my face does the exact opposite.  I can't forget I'm watching a movie when the movie keeps reminding me that the cameraman even exists.

(Of course, "more real" goes out the window anyway when we're talking about giant monsters.)

But that would be the point of filming the movie in shaky-cam mode!  If anything it should be scarier because it feels more like you are watching an incident that actually happened rather than one you know took place in a CG studio...


Yeah I agree.

Plus Partybear you asked "Why would the cameraman spaz out?" Which is why I wasn't sure you understood what he meant. If you were filming a catastrophic event and you were running for your life I'm sure it would end up looking the same haha.


I was speaking more generally because I couldn't watch the video at work.  I admit it isn't as bad now that I know the cameraman is a character in the movie, although I'm still not a fan of the style.  If the whole movie is shot like that, I won't ever want to see it.

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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2007, 02:48:52 PM »
Slusho website makes me want to watch Serenity.  And what does that have to do with that Trailer?
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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2007, 08:34:17 PM »
Afterwards I thought it could be a Lost movie.  It is made by Bad Robot and J.J. Abrams and the monster is never seen, it just throws things around and makes loud noises.  It is a long shot but you never know.

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« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2007, 03:32:57 AM »
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Afterwards I thought it could be a Lost movie.  It is made by Bad Robot and J.J. Abrams and the monster is never seen, it just throws things around and makes loud noises.  It is a long shot but you never know.


Well the reason why a lot of people are confused as to what it is is that evidently it is not a movie based on an existing franchise and is something "original".

If it was related to Lost I would cry X_X but it is possible.

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« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2007, 06:09:22 AM »
If it's original, then Abrams had (and still has) the opportunity to avoid all cliches typically associated with monster and disaster films. Destroying a landmark that is also a symbol for America (Statue of Liberty) is so overused that it doesn't bode well for the supposedly "underground" or "in-the-moment" aesthetic that the home video approach necessitates. Think of Independence Day, or The Day After Tomorrow, or Godzilla (all Roland Emmerich): destroying landmarks isn't interesting to us because it is a symbolic destruction, not a personal one. Consider War of the Worlds: the film takes place in New Jersey, and the biggest thing we get to a recognizable landmark is a 747. Other than that, we see regular stuff, like boats, cars, suburban houses, hilly countrysides, etc get destroyed, and the people within them matter more than their symbolic importance. Another great part about War of the Worlds was that the lead character was not "the" hero, just "a" hero, and his efforts to take down the machines and aliens were successful, but not effective against the invasion. Though WotW has plenty of cliches later on that mire the film, most of the film avoids banal heroism and the idea that humans will somehow outsmart whatever alien force invades them.

Other cliches to avoid: stupid mission to destroy the monster set out by someone with "firsthand knowledge" as if something like that could exist, military ineffectiveness, romance, comic relief, and Peter Jackson-esque cinematography that showcases just how fake the CG is. That last one is hopefully going to be avoided since the whole thing is a home video, but the rest are entirely possible. Hopefully this isn't an alien and isn't some weird eco-creature. Some people are hoping that it's religiously linked (like the Apocalypse, or the rise of Cthulu), and I'm all for it. I just don't know how anyone's going to survive that.
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« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2007, 06:23:51 AM »
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I just don't know how anyone's going to survive that.


Maybe no one will =)

But damn way to be harsh on Peter Jackson haha.

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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2007, 08:33:24 AM »
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Other cliches to avoid: ... romance


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