Great to see all the opinions of this crucial topic. So, on to replying.
IanSane, wrote:
"The DS has two factors that benefit it that the Revolution will not have. First of all the DS is the first new portable out of the gate so it has no competition. The Revolution will launch after the Xbox Next so that advantage doesn't exist. Second the DS is considered by most to be the next Gameboy. The Revolution doesn't have that either. Most are assuming it will be the next Gamecube which is BAD. The DS can coast because it follows a strong system. The Revolution is sure to struggle because it follows an unpopular system. "
And Avinash_Tyagi, wrote:
"I think you're expecting Nintendo to try and reclaim the first spot in the console wars; well the truth is Nintendo could bring the most phenomenal system ever created and it still wouldn't reclaim the lead in the console wars.
In order to be successful the Revolution only has to be profitable, which is almost a certainty.
In order to achieve its set goal it has to present new ways of gaming, along the lines of how the DS presents new ways of gaming.
Don't expect the revolution to beat the PS3 or Xbox 2, just expect it to bring new experiences to the table.
As for people not wanting the direction, well nintendo has in the past presented a lot of directions which have been viewed skeptically by the public, but its been rarely wrong, so I'm more than willing to give it the benefit of the doubt."
And my comment:
I think that with any new system, that is changing previous ways of doing things, there is a period of adaptation with the user´s. That is the way is has always been. But if such a new system is announced, it, of all systems it competes with, must be shown in time soon enough, or at the very same such time, for people to garner attention and expectation for it! Nintendo must be carefull. in my opinion, for I really don´t think they will continue to get away with doing things their own way!!! Fans who are loyal demand loyalty in return. I here do vividly remember their past arrogance with I am a tremendous clownboat., and Mario Sunshine, which two games by now have both been looked on as games that did not live up to expectations from gamers overall. Perhaps not so as regards die-hard Nintendo fans, but I read so much everywhere, saw so many opinions that were like this and finally saw Nintendo change the direction of the Zelda -series for reasons of "requests from many many many people" as they put it at last years E3 unveiling. So, they must listen to the people who play games, and even so doing at the time of writing, still more of that is required from them.
It´s not like Christmas where the kids know they´re going to get approximately what they put on their wishlist, and look forward to that. It´s a new videogamesystem, which follows the least popular of the three being on the market now, and therefore Nintendo can´t expect that people will put up with waiting even longer for seeing and feeling it´s promised wonders of gameplay! It is now or never!
Because, there´s a ferocious amount of talent in the third party gamecompanies, and who all mostly struggle to survive. So they will go to develope games on the platforms, which they know people have their eyes fixed on THE MOST, and NOT where people will look occasionally!
When I said "least popular" I did so because GameCube hasn´t sold over 20 million units wordwide. In stark contrast to the GameBoy Advance and GBA SP. The developers look to where there is the least risk of failure, and the highest chance of profit. It´s not really about loyalty, but about being in business or not! Many gamecompanies love Nintendo, but it is not enough if they can´t sell their games on the Nintendo systems!
So now it should make sense why it´s not about Revolution being profitable to Nintendo alone, but to many others as well. They (Nintendo) aren´t exactly placing a lid on their profit-aspirations. They don´t mind a huge sum of profit, as this is only good for the company in the future. If they want to once again become #1, which they seem to aspire for, their new machine must match the HYPE that the other two are a l r e a d y generating! Hype pre-sells hardware and -software for it. The current most popular hype is based on KNOWN types of hardware and controllers from Sony and Microsoft, that they are promising to be better with significantly ENHANCED level of entertainment as a result. That is something people can understand. THAT has massmarket appeal!! But will "Revolution" give people what they deem enhanced entertainment? The hush-hush attitude of Nintendo does NOT tell people out there, does it? But Nintendo wan´t to reach the mass market, don´t they? Didn´t Reggie just say in the IGN Nintendo Minute feature that Nintendo isn´t a kid-centric company, but that they want to make games for everyone? Yes, he did! And I can even now imagine, guys, the absolutely enourmous impact that a clever add from Nintendo about the new machine right after E3 would have which would be so tempting, so startling, so irresistible, so cool that people would drool on sight! And CRAVE it. THAT is what they need to do! NOW!! If it really is so revolutionary, and Nintendo knows what constitutes great gameplay, such an unveiling would do wonders. Then, just going from there right until and through the launch in 2006 would secure their place in the #2 or #1 spot in the future. The new Zelda, and Mario 128, will sells bucketloads of GCN´s alone, so Nintendo won´t have trouble with Nintendo gamers that anticipate the next machine!
So, no closely guarded secret´s anymore! Show us something! Otherwise, it´s foreign territory, unknown, and by a lot of people deemed unsafe investment until more is known about it.
Nintendo then says that, in the DS, we can see something of the mother console itself to be unveiled. Fair enough, but it´s too little, at too early a time to have people draw that parallel. As IanSane correctly points out, the Revolution does NOT have the advantages of the DS, for (my addition): it stands ALONE!
Paradigm Shift or not. If it truly is a first for the industry, standing alone, then it better deliver!! So, Matt Cassamassina is right: it must be shown now!! Tried out now! Hate him as much as some do.
Powerfull demonstrations generates attention! Powerfull ads turn heads!
People go with what is popular! That is the mainstream gamer. Massmarket appeal. They go first for what is massively advertised, for to them it must then be "IN", and safe to go after. It´s very much about social aspects as well. You can be the most loyal Fanboy in the world, but it won´t avail you much if all your friends play something else, and can´t enjoy with you what you play!
They won´t just buy "Revolution" when it comes out "sometime" that suits Nintendo. By that time, if they haven´t unveiled it to people, their money will be on the other two consoles. And the mass-market attention will be drawn to those, not to Nintendo´s machine. Nomatter how good it may play. It will simply drown in the hype and advertisement from the other two console-makers. At best, it will slowly convert even the most die-hard of the PS3 or XBOX2 owners. But still too late, to make a definitive impact in the console war, with Nintendo winding up in the undesirable #3 position again!
So, Nintendo should make another "Reggie-lution", and absolutely blow everyone away - again! Drop all their fears and with them also drop a bombshell of goodies that will have people scream and weep like they did when they saw the Realistic Link galopping across Hyrule Field x 100 in the upcoming Zelda blockbuster. I don´t expect people will do the first. But if it isn´t the first, then it´s at least positively surprising them, and from then on garnering the desired attention and hype. At the following E3 in 2006, with games truly out that make full use of the new gameplay mechanic, it should then be the first mentioned response which would be seen.
I can´t be far off, you know. People absolutely LOVE to be surprised. Miyamoto loves to do that to people, he once said. Surprising them. And that is what Nintendo must do at E3 this year. Or fall behind.
Nintendo must cease the moment! You know what that means! I´t means to take full advantage of a great opportunity to show what you´ve got and know that what you´ve got d-e-l-i-v-e-r-s! Iwata is pretty confident it does. So he must show it, and let people play it! No half shows, prototype diagrams. Only full exposure. They´ve had enough time to develope it, so it´s time to show it. No protecting Nintendo secrets. If they´re not fit for battle NOW, they´re in trouble. There no way in life that anybody from Sony or Microsoft can copy your hardware or software anyway, in that short time left until the launch in 2006.