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Title: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: 18 Days on April 22, 2007, 10:05:42 PM
SHAME NINTENDO SHAME

THis is some weak second rate bullcrap we're putting up with. I SAY WE RIOT!

I mean, just how far reaching could these ramifications be? If Mario Strikers isn't possible globally, is Smash Bros?
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Shift Key on April 22, 2007, 10:12:51 PM
Obviously you haven't dealt with lag issues before.

Some games work reasonably well with lag such as MMOs, but sports games, well, that's a different story.
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Willi on April 22, 2007, 10:20:52 PM
Will be interesting how this pans out for import gamers like me.

I'm running an US Wii in Europe. Will my future online play be limited to other US Wii importers and to other "official" US Wii users? I doubt the "regional" restriction will work IP based.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: 18 Days on April 22, 2007, 10:24:41 PM
Sucks for you especially since it's coming out in Europe first.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: IceCold on April 22, 2007, 10:32:16 PM
Damn. I was really looking forward to playing this one online with you guys. So it means that even with friend codes it'll still be regional, right?
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Shift Key on April 22, 2007, 10:40:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Willi
Will be interesting how this pans out for import gamers like me.

I'm running an US Wii in Europe. Will my future online play be limited to other US Wii importers and to other "official" US Wii users? I doubt the "regional" restriction will work IP based.


It should be based on your system's "region", not your geographical location.
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Willi on April 22, 2007, 11:08:03 PM
My systems region is NYC. It is a minor annoyance already when I want to look up weather for my region. Have to scroll half the globe to do so.. This feature is rather pointless anyway. Yawn.

Can't say I care much about Football games though. If that's all Europe gets first I certainly shall never regret my import decision.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Ceric on April 23, 2007, 02:52:24 AM
I can see their reasoning behind it and, no offence, I'm sure that NoE spearheaded this effort because it always seems like their spearheading keeping regions.  I wonder if they are using the same servers their using for the VC?
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: ryancoke on April 23, 2007, 03:01:37 AM
If an FPS game can from a technical standpoint be region-free for online play, so can Mario Strikers.
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: mantidor on April 23, 2007, 06:35:07 AM
There's no reason to do this really, just put a warning depending on your connection and the people that are going to play with you, and be done with it, let anyone play with anyone, just warn us it might not be the ideal connection when necessary.

Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: KDR_11k on April 23, 2007, 06:55:27 AM
They probably want to prevent exposure to foreigners that may tell people that other regions get the games earlier.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Ceric on April 23, 2007, 07:45:13 AM
If they are using servers and not peer to peer for parts this could be a way to load balance broadly.
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: mantidor on April 23, 2007, 08:20:25 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
They probably want to prevent exposure to foreigners that may tell people that other regions get the games earlier.


The funny thing with this is that if you can play games via wi-fi connection, you already have access to the internet and are very aware of how Nintendo likes to screw up his Europe and Australia fans in the first place.


Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: vudu on April 23, 2007, 09:05:07 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
The funny thing with this is that if you can play games via wi-fi connection, you already have access to the internet and are very aware of how Nintendo likes to screw up his Europe and Australia fans in the first place.
Post of the year.

I read about this news earlier and noticed that (at least as far as I can tell) there's no mention whether this is only for random match-ups or if it includes friend matches.  If you can plan matches against international friends then there's little reason to freak out.

/hope
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: that Baby guy on April 23, 2007, 09:11:46 AM
I bet it's only for random match-ups.  Until we are certain that Wii games have their own independent friend codes, I imagine that regardless of online region gaming, it will be possible to override region blocking. If the codes do end up being game-specific, I imagine that there will be a difference in friend code generation in each region, so that one region's friend codes will be incompatible with another's.

Anyways, it's soccer/football, so let's riot, regardless.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: couchmonkey on April 23, 2007, 09:35:56 AM
The thread topic wins the Internet.
The content is saddening, but I'll survive.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: stevey on April 23, 2007, 02:17:24 PM
I read about this weeks ago on gonintendo so I couldn't find a link but, I rember the guys working on striker saying that if you have their friend codes you can still can play with them no matter where they live but if you dont the match will be regional and that suck because beside canada and mexico there would be only 15 US players ever to play with online....

Edit: Found the link but gonintendo went boom
Here another confiring “soccer season" and worldwide match?
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 23, 2007, 04:20:55 PM
"We’ve never had to compromise anything that’s limited our Wi-Fi feature set"
Then:
"Wi-Fi in Mario Strikers Charged is region-specific so we can ensure a quality gameplay experience."

Contradiction much?
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: IceCold on April 23, 2007, 06:03:32 PM
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I read about this weeks ago on gonintendo so I couldn't find a link but, I rember the guys working on striker saying that if you have their friend codes you can still can play with them no matter where they live but if you dont the match will be regional
That's good news then..

EDIT: I was just reading a preview, and this caught my eye..

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Playing 2 players locally on one Wii against 2 players on another Wii online.
Finally! A mention of LAN play with two Wiis.. hopefully all the multiplayer games after this take advantage of the feature. Whatever happened to single disc LAN play?  
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: KDR_11k on April 24, 2007, 06:45:39 AM
Lan play? Looks more like combined single-console and online play to me.
Title: RE:LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: Artimus on April 24, 2007, 07:57:17 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Lan play? Looks more like combined single-console and online play to me.


That is...lan play?
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 24, 2007, 09:25:46 AM
LAN stands for Local Area Network.  This is Internet play.
Title: RE: LET'S DO A RIOT
Post by: that Baby guy on April 24, 2007, 09:30:10 AM
Yeah, the example was that two people were playing on each console, and that there were two consoles connected online.  Not a LAN at all.