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Yes, but Pokepal and Lolmonade did what they could in that situation
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Author Topic: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?  (Read 2851 times)

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I'm going to take this discussion out here so it doesn't dominate the postgame thread.

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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2020, 12:21:26 AM »
You also seem to have skimmed each day's thread and missed the fact we could keep neighborizing even after having 3 members. I told you were wrong and cited BS post but you still refused to change your vote on day 6.


That wasn't even my issue with your plan. My issue with your plan was that it basically assumes that Nickmitch and Mop it Up are idiots who wouldn't notice that we're blatantly trying to keep stevey alive at all costs so he can neighborize more people, which having worked with them for most of this game and having watched them thwart my stupid scheme, I can assure you is not the case.

I just do not believe there was any better course of action than voting you out for townie cred and taking matters into my own hands.

There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia? A justification you could have told them is that I revealed that I was actually Wesker and wanted revenge on Alexia (Insanolord) for taking both my henchmen Luigi Dude and lolmonade. Since this confirms what they already knew and fits in with my personality of vendettas, there's a good chance they would have fell for it. They could want to stick with me but if it was the truth then that would mean Insanolord/Alexia would get another Neighborization the next day which would be game over and too dangerous to ignore.
And why the **** would they not just vote you out so you can't get any kills in.

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Another option is that you're seconding guessing yourself of why you're going after me after speaking to me.
Perhaps, but you aren't exactly good at persuading me of anything if you haven't noticed and somehow i doubt I am alone.

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There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia

The fact that you were posting so frequently but not really giving any kind of logic with your posts outside of the TopHatAnt one on day 6 where you actually gave a decent explanation for why you were voting for them. I'm going to be brutally honest here. The way you just swing in with a vote and maybe a line or two worth of explanation in pretty much every game you play, regardless of role, and especially as the game goes on makes you seem suspicious because it makes it seem like you're hiding something and like you're trying not to say more than you have to because you're worried it can be used against you.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 12:34:15 AM by pokepal148 »

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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2020, 12:49:57 AM »
I need to go to bed to wake up in the morning but I will respond to this thread in the next coming days.
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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2020, 01:07:30 AM »
You also seem to have skimmed each day's thread and missed the fact we could keep neighborizing even after having 3 members. I told you were wrong and cited BS post but you still refused to change your vote on day 6.


That wasn't even my issue with your plan. My issue with your plan was that it basically assumes that Nickmitch and Mop it Up are idiots who wouldn't notice that we're blatantly trying to keep stevey alive at all costs so he can neighborize more people, which having worked with them for most of this game and having watched them thwart my stupid scheme, I can assure you is not the case.

I just do not believe there was any better course of action than voting you out for townie cred and taking matters into my own hands.

There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia? A justification you could have told them is that I revealed that I was actually Wesker and wanted revenge on Alexia (Insanolord) for taking both my henchmen Luigi Dude and lolmonade. Since this confirms what they already knew and fits in with my personality of vendettas, there's a good chance they would have fell for it. They could want to stick with me but if it was the truth then that would mean Insanolord/Alexia would get another Neighborization the next day which would be game over and too dangerous to ignore.
And why the **** would they not just vote you out so you can't get any kills in.

Because they could do it the next day. Wesker didn't have a hit on day 6 and Alexia was the biggest threat.

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There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia

The fact that you were posting so frequently but not really giving any kind of logic with your posts outside of the TopHatAnt one on day 6 where you actually gave a decent explanation for why you were voting for them. I'm going to be brutally honest here. The way you just swing in with a vote and maybe a line or two worth of explanation in pretty much every game you play, regardless of role, and especially as the game goes on makes you seem suspicious because it makes it seem like you're hiding something and like you're trying not to say more than you have to because you're worried it can be used against you.

What? I was barely posting once or twice a day because I was(am) busy with stuff in real life.
Day 1: throw away vote
Day 2: throw away vote
Day 3: no posts at all (thread closed too early)
Day 4: rule clarification post that alexia gets unlimited zombies
Day 4: vote for khush, always vote for khush kids
Day 5: pointed out Tophatant123 suspicious vote
Day 5: voted for Tophatant123 due to his suspicious vote
Day 5: mocked you for your snuff odor fetish
Day 6: voted for Tophatant123 again

I don't see anything too suspicious. Nobody would have thought anything if you had a change of heart and went for Tophatant123.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 01:21:02 AM by stevey »
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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2020, 01:10:36 AM »
Reread the rest of that post. I basically explained why you usually get voted out midway through the game.

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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2020, 01:32:16 AM »
Reread the rest of that post. I basically explained why you usually get voted out midway through the game.
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The way you just swing in with a vote and maybe a line or two worth of explanation in pretty much every game you play, regardless of role, and especially as the game goes on makes you seem suspicious because it makes it seem like you're hiding something and like you're trying not to say more than you have to because you're worried it can be used against you.

But a lot of players do just that and it has no correlation as you said with my role. Also, being too much of a busybody makes you a target of mafia hits, see Khush's life story.

My later game votes had justification and you're crazy if you think I'm going to start acting like Khush and make every post a word mountain.
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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2020, 01:39:47 AM »
How many posts did you make in the game prior to this?

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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2020, 01:58:00 AM »
None but neither did my couple Stratos since Khush fucked us over we were too busy in our own world.
Pokepal voted me out on day one in the game before that.

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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2020, 02:56:59 AM »
In the messages, we had it down to either Insanolord or Lolmonade as the OG mob boss, and I investigated Insanolord, which is why we swung the vote that way.  Pokepal could've had us vote out lolmonade, giving Insanolord another day and another hit.  But then Pokepal would've needed to convince me and Mop that either Tophatant or Mr. Bungle were converted.  But by then, I probably would've investigated him anyway, since Mop was already suspicious of him not sending the message.
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Re: Was Stevey neighborizing Pokepal in day 6 of Mafia 84 a bad move?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2020, 02:45:14 PM »
Reread the rest of that post. I basically explained why you usually get voted out midway through the game.
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The way you just swing in with a vote and maybe a line or two worth of explanation in pretty much every game you play, regardless of role, and especially as the game goes on makes you seem suspicious because it makes it seem like you're hiding something and like you're trying not to say more than you have to because you're worried it can be used against you.

But a lot of players do just that and it has no correlation as you said with my role. Also, being too much of a busybody makes you a target of mafia hits, see Khush's life story.

My later game votes had justification and you're crazy if you think I'm going to start acting like Khush and make every post a word mountain.

No one is saying to make a word mountain like I do. Heck, I don't want to make a word mountain each game but I seem to get hounded into doing it by the players. I actually thought you did better this game being more active. I liked this game because there seemed to be more activity from all the players (although that began to taper off in the middle a bit for Day 4 - 6). I'd like to see you keep that level up but it seems you might not for fear of being a target when you aren't mafia. If players even played like nickmitch and his activity this game, that would be enough to keep making these things interesting.
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