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Title: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 09, 2008, 10:38:31 PM
I'm surprised there isn't a thread for this yet, the single player campaign videos look awesome.
 Amazon.com exclusive video (http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m30HNEB106XMWL)

There are also a bunch of preorder bonuses such as these:

A mini guide to LBP

A sticker Book

A sack cloth

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/CONFUZZLED_MUNKIE/2735648321_37c366006a.jpg)
Playable
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/CONFUZZLED_MUNKIE/2736484334_103ec3b4bf.jpg)
Playable
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on August 09, 2008, 10:41:56 PM
It's a day 1 purchase for me even though I'm rather annoyed you have to use the Playstation Eye to make stickers. =(
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 09, 2008, 10:43:20 PM
Doesn't bother me since I have a PS eye, plus the PS eye has a microphone so you can chat to people Wii Speak style.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Ceric on August 09, 2008, 11:11:27 PM
I hope you can send your little guy out to have a doll made for your desk.  I've been waiting for this game but it seems like vaporware... Everything takes so long to come out for the PS3.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2008, 11:22:03 PM
The one game for PS3 that I'm really looking forward to on the horizon...Hopefully the single-player stuff is up-to-snuff...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 09, 2008, 11:35:39 PM
The one game for PS3 that I'm really looking forward to on the horizon...Hopefully the single-player stuff is up-to-snuff...

Did you see the trailer Bill?? The boss looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2008, 11:38:53 PM
I tend to avoid media of games coming out soon, so I'll have to take your word for it... =)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on August 09, 2008, 11:50:49 PM
Doesn't bother me since I have a PS eye, plus the PS eye has a microphone so you can chat to people Wii Speak style.

Well not all of us do but I am considering picking one up for LBP.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: AV on August 10, 2008, 12:41:59 AM
I wonder if this has an audience on the PS3. The internet fans love the game but will it be a huge success? If not than the online stuff could be wasted.

As of now it's a game that seems great in theory but reality maybe very different
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 10, 2008, 01:12:56 AM
Doesn't bother me since I have a PS eye, plus the PS eye has a microphone so you can chat to people Wii Speak style.

Well not all of us do but I am considering picking one up for LBP.

I think you can find Eye of Judgement for 29.99 in Walmart if you want to get it the cheapest way, some stores have them discounted to 44.99 or 49.99 and the PS eye retails for 40.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on August 10, 2008, 02:20:16 AM
This game is the final hope of PS3 fanboys (since FF13 went multiplatform). No idea why, that trailer didn't look like this is some kind of uber-GOTY (only made me wonder how you control three characters at the same time).
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 10, 2008, 02:29:43 AM
KDR, the game has a co-operative mode both on and offline if I remember correctly. Little Big Planet has so much potential because it's a fresh concept in arguably one of the most stalest console cycle ever because of how all the budgets keep increasing, publishers are relying on safe that are guaranteed to be hits, Little Big Planet broke the rule because Sony allowed them a lot of time to get it up and running and it's a very different game compared to a lot of games out in the market.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 10, 2008, 04:22:38 AM
I really think the game will do average at best, which is unfortunate. We'll see though, I hope for the best but this doesn't seem to be the type of game the user base is dieing to have. Now if only they'll bring out Afrika or I'll have to import it!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: ShyGuy on August 10, 2008, 04:30:53 AM
the stiches on his head creep me out, but the game looks really good.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on August 10, 2008, 06:09:57 AM
Fresh concept? Looked very platformy to me.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 10, 2008, 11:17:06 AM
Well it is platformy but it does look innovative, also the fact that multiplayer is practically a build your own stage and conquer it is pretty cool. I think Sony is in a mode where they are focusing on strong first party exclusives and grab whatever 3rd party games that comes at Sony's way kinda reminds you of the N64.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on August 10, 2008, 07:27:08 PM
I'm extremely pumped for this game. It was the one PS3 game I craved and I'm glad I'm going to get a chance the play it. I love how seamless all the editing appears to be. 
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: vudu on August 11, 2008, 02:30:39 PM
I wonder if this has an audience on the PS3. The internet fans love the game but will it be a huge success? If not than the online stuff could be wasted.

There was a leaked image of the PC box art a few weeks ago.  (Although, it could have easily been either faked or an honest mistake on the part of a retailer).  I would love to see a PC port of this game, as I have no intentions of buying a PS3 anytime soon.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2008, 02:31:50 PM
Little Big Expenditure?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 11, 2008, 04:07:41 PM
I wonder if this has an audience on the PS3. The internet fans love the game but will it be a huge success? If not than the online stuff could be wasted.

There was a leaked image of the PC box art a few weeks ago.  (Although, it could have easily been either faked or an honest mistake on the part of a retailer).  I would love to see a PC port of this game, as I have no intentions of buying a PS3 anytime soon.

The only branch of Sony that makes or used to make PC games is SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) but I think that got absorbed into Sony Computer Entertainment or is managed by them.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Ceric on August 11, 2008, 07:59:10 PM
I really think the game will do average at best, which is unfortunate. We'll see though, I hope for the best but this doesn't seem to be the type of game the user base is dieing to have. Now if only they'll bring out Afrika or I'll have to import it!
I think this game will end up having a hardcore niche that will give it sales longevity.  When I mean Hardcore I mean devoted but, its going to be people like those who watch Anime but don't really play games.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 11, 2008, 10:33:19 PM
I have a feeling Sony will have a big marketing push on this game, I think it should enjoy a level of success that Uncharted had.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on August 12, 2008, 06:22:02 AM
I think this game will end up having a hardcore niche that will give it sales longevity.

I don't think hardcore niches give any sales longevity, they all buy it on week one and then it fades into obscurity.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 12, 2008, 09:09:11 AM
I love platforming games, which are my favorite genre.  And I love 2D side scrolling games.

So I am excited about this game...but it does not look as innovative or cool as everyone is making it out to be.

The best part that I notice is that the game gives weight and uses physics throughout its level design very well.  As the most innovative in game concepts.

Other than that you have cooperative side scrolling puzzle platformer...that has been done before.

Create your own levels, that has been done before, and I really don't get too excited about having to design my own game, I don't find that fun.

This game is going to sell to Niche audience like Blast Works did, some platform lovers, and finally it may have a younger audience appeal...but that audience barely exists on the PS3.  It is going to completely fail at catching the PS3 mass market.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Dirk Temporo on August 12, 2008, 05:03:41 PM
This game is the final hope of PS3 fanboys (since FF13 went multiplatform). No idea why, that trailer didn't look like this is some kind of uber-GOTY (only made me wonder how you control three characters at the same time).

There's no such thing as multiplayer.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on August 13, 2008, 05:07:04 AM
Well, is multiplayer mandatory in order to finish the game?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: redgiemental on August 13, 2008, 09:46:45 AM
I didn't really think LBP was a game you "finished" as such.

I thought it was more of a creating tool that comes with a fairly hefty amount of premade levels.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on August 13, 2008, 10:27:45 AM
Well, most people aren't terribly creative so all they get is stuff made by others.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: redgiemental on August 19, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
There probably wont be an end is my point. There will be a constant flow of user created content. So you wont "finish" the game.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 19, 2008, 11:02:56 AM
Well they said that there is an adventure mode so I think the co-op adventure mode has an ending while theres a open ended mode where you make your own stuff.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on August 19, 2008, 12:47:20 PM
I think what puts LBP over the top is the crazy multiplayer aspect to it.  You can do 4-player co-op in virtually every aspect of the game.  You and three buddies can visit other people's levels, you can play through the main game 4-player co-op (both online and offline), and I know that at least 2 people can collaborate over PSN to design levels.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on August 19, 2008, 01:26:00 PM
There probably wont be an end is my point. There will be a constant flow of user created content. So you wont "finish" the game.

Whether you can really finish it or not is beside the point, I was more or less asking if it's mandatory to play with multiple people to solve the levels.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: redgiemental on August 20, 2008, 06:24:36 AM
I don't imagine so KDR.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on August 22, 2008, 12:19:03 PM
Nope, you can play it as single-player only if you so desire.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 02, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/LBP.jpg)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on September 03, 2008, 05:03:36 AM
With those characters I wonder if there are Cave Story references...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 03, 2008, 11:27:19 AM
I know someone who won't be able to even look at that box art.  She's afraid of sock monkeys.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 03, 2008, 12:15:07 PM
Quizno's sponge monkeys should have a WiiWare game.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on September 04, 2008, 06:18:05 PM
Today I pre-ordered LBP.
Got home.
I tried (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Caliban/IMGP0031.jpg) to peel off the sticky (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Caliban/IMGP0029.jpg) to see my promotional code, so that I could get the Kratos costume.
I sent an email to Media Molecule, and I asked what should I do.
I will wait for a reply. Any kind of reply. Hopefully a helpful reply.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: vudu on September 09, 2008, 02:32:23 PM
I think you were supposed to scratch it off with a coin.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on September 09, 2008, 04:06:58 PM
Hah yeah, i'd say scratch off is a safe bet.  Is best buy giving away the Nariko codes yet?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on September 09, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
LOL! Thank you, vudu and Pale.
It's funny because the Socom beta code was a sticky and it looks exactly like the LBP scratchy, so I thought I was supposed to rip it off too.

Pale, you can. (http://littlebigplanet.us.playstation.com/post/2008/09/Pre-order-And-finallyNariko-SackGirl.aspx)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 11, 2008, 04:35:36 PM
I finally pre-ordered this from LameStop.  I hated the fact that they had the pre-order bonus that I wanted, because I HATE THEM.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on September 11, 2008, 08:12:01 PM
Kratos hates everyone too.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 24, 2008, 02:03:24 PM
I'm very close to pre-ordering this but I just have the fear the "core" game-play won't interest me long, similar to Blastworks.  Anyone else feeling this way?  Is it too muck to ask for Sackboy to punch other puppets in the face?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on September 24, 2008, 04:18:43 PM
I think D_Average just said he doesn't like classic Mario platformers. ;)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 24, 2008, 04:26:13 PM
I think D_Average just said he doesn't like classic Mario platformers. ;)

True, that is one way to look at it.  However, the jumping and shell throwing in those games was so quick and responsive.  The jumping in LBP reminds me a bit of Lost Winds, kinda of sloppy and tricky to get just right.  Who knows though, it may be perfect for the game and a new experience I'll surely enjoy.  I really hope so, cuz the visuals are quite impressive.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on September 24, 2008, 04:29:37 PM
Are you talking looks kind of sloppy, or based on your playtime in the beta?  I need to know how to weigh your opinion. :)

I'll agree that the jumping does appear floaty, but i've heard only good things from the podcasts and articles I've seen of the people that have played it.

Either way though, I can't wait to make some levels WITH other people.  That's the feature I think will be awesome.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 24, 2008, 05:11:53 PM
Are you talking looks kind of sloppy, or based on your playtime in the beta?  I need to know how to weigh your opinion. :)

I'll agree that the jumping does appear floaty, but i've heard only good things from the podcasts and articles I've seen of the people that have played it.

Either way though, I can't wait to make some levels WITH other people.  That's the feature I think will be awesome.

By, "sloppy" I was referring to Lost Winds specifically.  Though LBP has some similarities w/ it in terms of floaty, I would expect a lot more accuracy in LBP given that there's no motion controls.

But unfortunately no beta for me, all based off videos.  I actually just picked up the PS3 last Friday, w/ this exclusive representing just another weight on the scale to shift me to Sony instead of MS. 

Even if the game-play doesn't pan out to be all that stellar, I'll probably get it anyway just to get my wife involved as she's an artist and could do great things with the tools if she put some time into it.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on September 24, 2008, 09:00:59 PM
Pity online creation is not available from the get go.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on September 25, 2008, 02:11:40 AM
What? Release now, patch later? Great idea...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
Well I decided to go w/ my gut and just pre-order the game.  Given that I got a 10 dollar BB gift card for picking up Pure today, and the free Heavenly Sword costume I'll get for pre-ordering it, I figured it was a decent enough deal...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 28, 2008, 07:31:12 PM
BTW, there's a great pre-order deal for LBP on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/LittleBigPlanet-Playstation-3/dp/B000ZKA0JG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1222644488&sr=8-2

You get a free $10 Amazon gift card if you place your order before 10/20.  With the way Amazon pumps out deals, you'll surely find something else to put that $10 towards.  Free shipping too.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 28, 2008, 08:55:45 PM
BTW, there's a great pre-order deal for LBP on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/LittleBigPlanet-Playstation-3/dp/B000ZKA0JG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1222644488&sr=8-2

You get a free $10 Amazon gift card if you place your order before 10/20.  With the way Amazon pumps out deals, you'll surely find something else to put that $10 towards.  Free shipping too.

Wow, recommending Amazon after the Space Invaders fiasco!?  You my friend, are quick to forgive!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 29, 2008, 05:06:06 AM
Hey Amazon is one of the best retailers to deal with, sure they got rid of the 30 day price matching but they still usually have the lowest prices in town and the best deals.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on September 29, 2008, 11:14:44 AM
But they charge sales tax for New York state orders now... which is made of fail.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 29, 2008, 11:20:49 AM
But they charge sales tax for New York state orders now... which is made of fail.

True that, stupid NY taxes.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 29, 2008, 11:49:57 AM
I got nothing against Amazon, but I'm way to impatient to order new games from them.  What I like them for is picking up older or used games and cd's.  Or, picking up a 2 dollar HDMI cable instead of getting raped locally with a 60 dollar cable.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on September 29, 2008, 08:49:44 PM
Did anyone else get into the beta? If not check 1up and other sites that are giving away the codes.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on September 29, 2008, 10:32:54 PM
Nope all my attempts to get in have resulted in failure.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on September 29, 2008, 10:50:48 PM
I sent in the answer to 1up maybe 10 mins after it went out.  Nothing for me though.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 30, 2008, 01:42:56 AM
I sent a game idea into IGN but nothing.  Not that I need it though, I have way too much to play already.

And as for Amazon, "they've been beddy beddy good to me" (channeling Sammy Sosa)

One rocky spell with Space Invaders does not mark the end of my love affair with Amazon.  We still make out regularly.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 01, 2008, 02:23:27 PM
Here's a great example of the kind of level you can build with the LBP toolset.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/10/01/shadow-of-the-littlebigcolossus-proves-the-only-thing-little-about-littlebigplanet-is-its-name/
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 01, 2008, 03:42:16 PM
Yeah, I saw that the other day, amazing! 

Anyone here have any ideas of what'd they'd like to seriously attempt creating after messing around for a bit? 
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 03:46:03 PM
I was going to create a Mario stage, but that's apparently not original anymore... ='D
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: that Baby guy on October 01, 2008, 06:44:50 PM
I don't know if I see as much in this game as others do.  Honestly, the Shadow-of-the-Colossus Stage that I've read about  is the first time anything that I've heard has actually seemed mildly entertaining.  I know no one else things so, but to me, everything I've seen seems bland, from the physics to the pieces that you can use on stages, so maybe if I watch the link at the beginning of the stage, I'll see something more interesting.  Everyone has seemed enchanted by this game with little proven reason, and I just don't see it yet.  Maybe there's a higher level of customization or a deeper gameplay, but nothing has looked challenging, and to me, watching the gameplay makes me feel as though everything is in slow motion.

Edit:  It's funny how I mention it feels like the game is in slow motion:  Parts of that video have been sped up, to breeze past the dull and boring parts of gameplay that look like they'd drag on.  I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 01, 2008, 08:33:12 PM
A lot of the player made levels I've played can be easily broken, but I've also played a lot of really funny creative ones. The thing everyone here should remember; people are just scratching the surface of what can be done and Media Molecule plans on supporting it after release. The level editor is very complicated and will take some time for people to master. Once people do though, there will be endless fun to explore.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 01, 2008, 09:02:22 PM
A lot of the player made levels I've played can be easily broken, but I've also played a lot of really funny creative ones. The thing everyone here should remember; people are just scratching the surface of what can be done and Media Molecule plans on supporting it after release. The level editor is very complicated and will take some time for people to master. Once people do though, there will be endless fun to explore.

How did you get a key?  Sheesh, I've entered five different contests and still no dice!

As far as Media Molecule supporting it post release, they have a high bar to meet, as Criterion has been unbelievable this last year w/ Burnout.  I can only hope they match that!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 01, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
I got mine through 1up. My biggest gripe with the game is the controls; they're floaty, imprecise and take time to get use to. The worst thing is the transition between the 3D plains; it doesn't always work the way it should.

I hope to try out the level editor this weekend.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 01, 2008, 10:37:11 PM
I got mine through 1up. My biggest gripe with the game is the controls; they're floaty, imprecise and take time to get use to. The worst thing is the transition between the 3D plains; it doesn't always work the way it should.

I hope to try out the level editor this weekend.

Oh SHNAAAAAAP!!!

Just got mine from 1up!  Real dreams do come true!  If I get another, I'll be sure to give it to one of my NWR friends, I'll keep you posted...
(http://www.nofactzone.net/wp-content/images/peabody51.jpg)


Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 01, 2008, 11:08:38 PM
The LBP Beta would be nice, but the Resistance 2 Public Beta is my bread and butter.  I gotta get into that or I'll cry, scrunch my face up, and stamp my feet really loudly like a 5-year-old.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 01, 2008, 11:13:16 PM
I don't think I want to be in the LBP beta.  I want to just open it up and enjoy a video game right out of the box.. just like old times.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 01, 2008, 11:16:02 PM
Yeah, I miss that magic too.  Everything has a beta these days.

**pours out a little liquor for the non-beta games that ain't here**
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 02, 2008, 01:53:57 PM
Well, a couple quick impressions. First off, the presentation and graphics are amazing, simply put.  The textures and 3D models look so good it seems as if you could reach into your TV and grab them, it really is that good!  Its blowing me away akin to when I first played DK Country on the SNES.

As far as gameplay, it does feel a bit clumsy.  Jumping is very floaty and moving back and forth (not left to right) does need some tweaking.  Its certainely not bad enough to spoil the game but at the end of the day it leaves a bit to be desired.

Overall though, I think we've got a great product on our hands that many will still be playing a year from now.  Can't wait for the full release!


Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 02, 2008, 02:04:32 PM
Good to hear you feel the same way I do D_Average. Problems aside, this game has a lot too offer.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 02, 2008, 08:46:29 PM
My favourite user created level that I've seen is Hollow Bastion (http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/multimedia/2008/09/gallery_littlebigplanet_levels?slide=9&slideView=9). The atmosphere is literally dripping in this level. I'm really impressed that someone could make something so 'complete' in such a short time. Sound effects are what raises the bar here I think.

I can see where thatguy is coming from, the platforming itself is very simple, the lack of Mario-esque double jumps and backflips really reduces the abilities of the sackpeople themselves. If there are going to be any negatives about this game it'll be the controls. (Spoken as one of the beta-less)

Speaking of the beta apparently it may open up (http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/3861.html) for the last week. That'd be cool, I've entered or missed out on entering that any contests.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: that Baby guy on October 02, 2008, 09:05:47 PM
Aha!  I figured out what the game reminds me of:  Drawn to Life.  The concept looked great to anyone who checked it out, but the execution was terrible.  I think, from what I've seen, that Sony had a great concept, but the actual platforming, pieces, and gameplay are lazy, it seems.  Apparently, unlike Drawn to Life, those who play this love it, which is always good news.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 09:09:32 PM
Man, I just got a beta invite.....
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 09:14:00 PM
It's downloading now...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 02, 2008, 09:30:04 PM
Lucky bugger. I expect a staff blog with your thoughts ;)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 03, 2008, 02:08:40 AM
Pale, play "The Heist" level!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 03, 2008, 07:10:35 AM
The Heist Part 2 is much better then the first one.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 03, 2008, 07:55:39 AM
I only played the first two levels last nigiht, and now I'm leaving to camp for the weekend.  I had a lot of fun with what I've done so far.

I'm a little worried that the "loot" will become overwhelming, as they throw SO MUCH OF IT at you.

I will say that the arm moving mechanic is just too awesome.  For those that don't know, you hold down L2 and R2 and then the right and left sticks control your sackboy's arms.  So you can make him do all sorts of dances, especially if you use sixaxis to move his hips around.  My fiancee and I were just playing with that feature for like a half hour.

I think the controls feel really good for everything but depth changing.  I don't mind the floaty jumps.  It fits with the whimsical theme of the game.

Also, the british accent on the tutorial/narrator makes it awesome as well.  It feels very Monty Python inspired given that (I know, it's just how they talk =P ) and the cut out animation style of the intro.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 03, 2008, 09:52:39 AM
The Heist Part 2 is much better then the first one.

I'll have to try that one today.  That beatboxer dude at the beginning was hilarious.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 03, 2008, 11:29:16 AM
Also, the british accent on the tutorial/narrator makes it awesome as well.  It feels very Monty Python inspired given that (I know, it's just how they talk =P ) and the cut out animation style of the intro.

So you're saying each copy of LBP ships with a little Greg Leahy inside of it?  Now THAT is next-gen.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 03, 2008, 11:36:30 AM
I don't mind the floaty jumps.

So there's no way to add or take gravity in the game, or apply specific physics to the sacks?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 03, 2008, 11:38:35 AM
Yeah, you would think that you could make the jumping less floaty by tweaking physics.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 03, 2008, 11:49:34 AM
I think my problem is after playing so many platformers, the floaty jump and imprecise controls just feel wrong to me. I can see why Pale says they fit the game, but with how complicated you can make the platforming, I don't like struggling at parts that I wouldn't be in any other platformer.

There might be physics tweaking the future, who knows. The problem with that is that could result in a lot of broken games. I'd love to see some Galaxy-esque gravity levels though.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 03, 2008, 01:57:38 PM
Also, the british accent on the tutorial/narrator makes it awesome as well.  It feels very Monty Python inspired given that (I know, it's just how they talk =P ) and the cut out animation style of the intro.

So you're saying each copy of LBP ships with a little Greg Leahy inside of it?  Now THAT is next-gen.
Exactly! =P
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: bustin98 on October 04, 2008, 12:13:45 AM
The voice reminded me of the 'Hitchiker's Guide' movie, which, of course, reminds of Monty Python in some manner.

The 'voices' of the hint things reminded me of Animal Crossing. I had a cynical reaction of wondering if the same people who panned AC for that talk will turn around and express love of these mumbling creatures.

I haven't played, just watched it played at a friend's house. Anyone have an extra beta code?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 04, 2008, 04:06:16 AM
Also, the british accent on the tutorial/narrator makes it awesome as well.  It feels very Monty Python inspired given that (I know, it's just how they talk =P ) and the cut out animation style of the intro.

It's Stephen Fry. He is awesomeness.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 04, 2008, 05:24:37 PM
The Heist Part 2 is much better then the first one.

Damn you're right, that level was tight!  There's a couple things I'd like to say about it but I don't want to spoil the twist.  For anyone who has the Beta much sure to play The Heist 1 n 2.  Best user levels I've come across. 

For a more comprehensive list the Gaf has a nice one going:

Heist (Part 1) ..... near North Pole (pink icon) (page 1)
rollercoaster ..... Mediterranean (page 1)
Little Big UNCHARTED ..... Pakistan (between Europe and India) (page 1)
SMB1 ..... California (page 2)
The Great Escape (Escape Nazi Germany!) (CENSORED!!!)
Escape The Cave! (multi-tiered level) .....
Temple of the Damned ..... Indonesia (page 5)
Icy Time trial ... South Africa (page 1)
Coco's Fun House .....
Dinoland ... Canada (page 1)
crazy wild west .... east of Canada (page 2)
Get off the Choppa' .... China
Asian Heights ... Asia (page 7)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: vudu on October 07, 2008, 02:11:47 PM
This is the greatest LBP level yet. (http://kotaku.com/5059808/littlebigplanet-can-do-your-math-homework)

Be sure to watch until the end!!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 07, 2008, 02:29:06 PM
This is the greatest LBP level yet. (http://kotaku.com/5059808/littlebigplanet-can-do-your-math-homework)

Be sure to watch until the end!!

Glad you liked it!  I actually created that after work on Friday night in just 45 mins, no biggie!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 07, 2008, 02:31:41 PM
Won't load for me... I'm assuming D_Average is being sarcastic right?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: vudu on October 07, 2008, 02:46:41 PM
I assume so, yes.  ;D
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 07, 2008, 03:09:03 PM
I assume so, yes.  ;D

Sadly, yes.

I actually haven't even gotten around to attempting any creations.  I'm usually into this type of thing, but every type I jump into the Beta I end up blowing all my time in trying the "cool levels", time well spent though.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 07, 2008, 03:10:58 PM
Yesterday I made a glass cow with wheels on him that moo'ed every time you got close.  I then pushed him up and down some hills.

I have to say, I'm kind of intimidated by just how much can be done, so I haven't done much yet.  Plus I don't want to just lose everything when the retail game comes out either.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 07, 2008, 03:11:20 PM
The possibilities of this game are pretty stunning. The video vudu posted is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 07, 2008, 03:52:19 PM
The level creator is really intimidating. I'm going to need to plan out my levels before I even attempt to make one. I'm waiting until the final game is out, just so I can collect all the items in the single player and work more on my ideas.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 07, 2008, 04:01:41 PM
The level creator is really intimidating. I'm going to need to plan out my levels before I even attempt to make one. I'm waiting until the final game is out, just so I can collect all the items in the single player and work more on my ideas.

How long does the tutorial take?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 07, 2008, 04:56:55 PM
How well does the controller work? Can you hook up a mouse? That was one of my main concerns was doing this all with dual sticks which I would think could become frustrating fast.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 07, 2008, 05:00:02 PM
No mouse hook up, but the controller isn't bad.  The system is very well thought out, given what is possible with the traditional control scheme.

That said, the learning curve is pretty significant.  Just as depth is confusing in the gameplay, it's also confusing in the editor.  I may have these reversed but I think, L1 and L2 change the thickness of the object (relative to screen depth) and R1 and R2 change the position of the object (relative to screen depth).  Whenver you push one of those buttons the camera movves so you can kind of see, but it gets quite cluttered if you have a lot of things on the screen.

Other buttons and tools take a lot of learning too, but I have a feeling it will be quite smooth for those that take the time to get used to it.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 07, 2008, 10:01:45 PM
It looks like Media Molecule realizes that the controls can be a little unwieldy, and they'll likely patch them (and add new Sackboy abilities) after release.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=254347
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 12:30:59 AM
It looks like Media Molecule realizes that the controls can be a little unwieldy, and they'll likely patch them (and add new Sackboy abilities) after release.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=254347

Oh man I hope so, I had some very frustrating moments this evening.  As it stands now, I just can't see casuals latching on just quite yet.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 08, 2008, 07:10:04 AM
Good news to hear.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 10:29:20 AM
Anyone else have trouble w/ the tutorial where you have to line up the sack boy cut outs on steps?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 08, 2008, 11:13:31 AM
That one was a pain. I eventually got it, but it's easy to mess up on.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 11:15:32 AM
I have no idea what I was doing wrong.  I switched the depths, size, rotation, ugg, I got pretty pissed!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 08, 2008, 02:14:05 PM
Anybody want a beta code? USAToday sent me 2. If so, PM it up.


Sold to blackfootsteps!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 02:26:28 PM
Anybody want a beta code? USAToday sent me 2. If so, PM it up.

I was just gonna say, they have 15,000!  For anyone that still needs one,
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2008-10-06-little-big-planet_N.htm
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 08, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
I got one from a guy at work.  My PS3 is happily downloading the Beta right now, so I'll see you guys in there.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 03:29:37 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 08, 2008, 08:06:34 PM
This game is really a bunch of fun! Maybe tomorrow we can setup a 4 player online thing?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 08:17:06 PM
That would be cool.  I've tried only w/ randoms thus far and its been a lagfest, perhaps it'll work better w/ PSN friends.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 08, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
I'd be down for that, but I'm sure it would still be laggy.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 08, 2008, 08:42:38 PM
Thanks to Mr Jack's generosity I am now in the beta!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 08, 2008, 08:56:44 PM
Wow, I'm really impressed.  Yes, it's "only" a platformer.  But it really has the feel of a Nintendo game through and through.  It so refreshing and different that you can't help but be instantly engaged by it.

Creating stickers with the Playstation Eye is awesome.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 08, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
It's too bad the resolution is so low.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 09, 2008, 01:23:17 AM
Yeah, they're pretty low-res alright.  They also take a while to save/load as well.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: bustin98 on October 09, 2008, 01:39:26 AM
I have the game, too, thanks to USAToday. Played some online. Smacking the other sackboys is entertaining. Especially during the jumping mini-game... ;)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 09:52:54 AM
I have the game, too, thanks to USAToday. Played some online. Smacking the other sackboys is entertaining. Especially during the jumping mini-game... ;)

How do you smack them?  With R2?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: bustin98 on October 09, 2008, 11:03:51 AM
R2 or L2. While being able to move your arms, push the stick away from the other guy then quickly push toward them. You can make the gesture on your own to practice.

We should get a four player online thing going before the beta ends.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
I'll have to try the slap tonight!

As far as pix, I'm thinking of getting the Eye to butter utilize the game.  Do you guys use it for anything else, or does it just kind of sit there?  Is 40 bux the best deal I'll find?

Also, I'm going to need a 2nd controller so my wife can play.  Anyone have any recommendations on a less expensive 3rd party option thats reliable?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 09, 2008, 12:44:30 PM
I got the Eyetoy for $32 on Amazon JUST for LBP, so I can't comment on it's other uses.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 09, 2008, 01:32:08 PM
Walmart has Eye of Judgment w/Eyetoy on clearance for $30 if you can still find em. I considered a purchase a while back but realized my PS3 Eyetoy would probably just sit around collecting dust like my PS2 Eyetoy does.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 09, 2008, 01:34:50 PM
I still have EYe of Judgment and have NEVER played it. Also I think it is CONFIRMED that Mr. Jack,  Lindy and Pale all hate me for not giving me a beta code :(
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 02:02:44 PM
Looks like Wal Mart is the way to go, I still have 10 bux from the Smash Fiasco so I just may finally put it to use here.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2008, 03:04:24 PM
Can't we just use photos stored in an SD card?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on October 09, 2008, 03:34:48 PM
Sounds like this beta is pretty much a demo with a pretense of exclusivity...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 03:49:02 PM
Just in, all beta levels will be transfered!

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/09/littlebigplanet-beta-levels-will-be-transferred-to-final-game/
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 09, 2008, 03:58:42 PM
Great news, some of the levels made thus far are spectacular and it would've been a shame to see them lost in the transition.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 04:25:26 PM
Great news, some of the levels made thus far are spectacular and it would've been a shame to see them lost in the transition.

Indeed.  Now that I know any work I do won't be lost, I just may get started on my Little Big Labyrinth Level, complete with songs from David Bowie!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 09, 2008, 06:35:04 PM
You can get DualShock 3's on Amazon right now for $43.99 w/free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-3-Dualshock-Wireless-Controller/dp/B0015AARJI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1223591467&sr=8-1

That's a good deal right there.

Check your local Wal-Mart for the Eye of Judgement bundle.  They just dropped them to $29.92, which is ridiculously cheap.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 06:47:56 PM
Nice, thanks for the tips!  I'll probably jump on both of those.

PS - What time is everyone thinking of jumping on LBP tonight??  I'll probably be on around 6:30 MST...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 10, 2008, 01:04:56 AM
So I made a level.... It's called Giraffe Racing/ Racers or something along those lines. It's pretty terrible but I was happy considering it was my first.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 11, 2008, 10:09:15 AM
I'm sure I'll be on on Sunday night sometime.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2008, 12:16:41 PM
IGN Video Review out now.  Looks like the chief complaint is the same we had, iffy depth control issues:

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/856680/media-molecule-ps3-game-/videos/littlebig_101008_vidreview.html
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 13, 2008, 12:27:40 PM
Looks like Wal Mart is the way to go, I still have 10 bux from the Smash Fiasco so I just may finally put it to use here.
Thanks for reminding me about that.  I just ordered my PlayStation eye using that gift card. :)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Ceric on October 13, 2008, 04:31:25 PM
Great news, some of the levels made thus far are spectacular and it would've been a shame to see them lost in the transition.

Indeed.  Now that I know any work I do won't be lost, I just may get started on my Little Big Labyrinth Level, complete with songs from David Bowie!
Only if the Lead lady shows up can I approve that.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 14, 2008, 11:11:06 AM
Am I the only one that had the beta expire?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 14, 2008, 11:16:51 AM
Looks like Wal Mart is the way to go, I still have 10 bux from the Smash Fiasco so I just may finally put it to use here.
Thanks for reminding me about that.  I just ordered my PlayStation eye using that gift card. :)

Nice, just ordered mine too.  Only 25 bux w/ the ship to store option. 

As far as the Beta, I think all of them expired on Sun.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 14, 2008, 11:59:20 AM
Apparently the game has broken street date in various places around the US, so keep an eye out if you're keen.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 14, 2008, 01:11:22 PM
Sears is a likely spot to grab one early.  I already have the pre order at Best Buy though, no way they'll budge.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: bustin98 on October 14, 2008, 04:27:03 PM
If you left the game running you could still play it, though its slightly broken. Anything connected to the online component won't work. Which is pretty much everything. The premade levels won't load. Any customization to your character, stickers, etc won't load. The only fan made levels available are your own. But you can't make any changes.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 17, 2008, 01:23:59 PM
I'm so upset... SO UPSET!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 01:45:10 PM
Picking up my Eye tonight from Walmart, it has arrived!  Maybe Best Buy will break the street date....highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 17, 2008, 01:47:51 PM
You didn't see why I am so upset.

Worldwide recall of all shipped copies.  Game is delayed indefinitely.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 02:02:50 PM
You didn't see why I am so upset.

Worldwide recall of all shipped copies.  Game is delayed indefinitely.

Oh Sh#$ WTF!!??

Any estimations on how much this fiasco will cost Sony/MM?  Or how many people are getting fired for catching it so late in the game?

Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 17, 2008, 02:04:26 PM
It was delayed for the background song which feature a couple expressions from the Quaran or something like that. They don't want to offend the muslim community. ::rolls eyes::
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 02:14:08 PM
It was delayed for the background song which feature a couple expressions from the Quaran or something like that. They don't want to offend the muslim community. ::rolls eyes::

Considering LBP is very "Cartoonish" it was probably a smart move, as absurd as it really is to recall all of the discs this late in the game.

Damn shame.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 17, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
What if those expressions were sung in another language, could they protest? I think not, but the right to choice is once again invalidated by nonsense. If it is that offensive than turn your back away, and don't buy the product, or at least LBP could be shipped as originally intended with the offer of a patch to remove such offense for those that wish not hear such offense. See I just gave a good solution that would hopefully make everyone happy.
Whatever happened to liberty, and responsibility of choice *sigh*.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
Here's a portion of the Media Molecule reaction:

We learnt yesterday that there is a lyric in one of the licensed tracks which some people may find offensive, and which slipped through the usual screening processes. Obviously MM and Sony together took this very seriously. LBP should be enjoyable by all. So within 12 hours of hearing about this issue involving a lyric (in Somalian, I believe!), we prepared an automatic day 0 patch and had a new disk image ready; however a decision was made within Sony that the right thing to do for quality and support of people with no on-line was to replace existing disks. They assure us that they are doing everything in their power to get things straightened out as fast as possible, and will announce dates soon.

Someone, please, show me one person who paid upwards of $400 for a PS3 and intends to buy a game centered around online connectivity with NO online access.

Absurd, just absurd.

Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 17, 2008, 03:30:25 PM
I don't blame them one bit.  That's a real touchy subject, and there's just no need for Sony to even go there.

[Puts on Moderator Cap]: And there's no need for this thread to go there either, BTW.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 17, 2008, 03:35:25 PM
October 27th is the new magic date.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 17, 2008, 03:36:13 PM
I do wonder though what brought this on. I bet it was as ridiculous as the decision. It is just like when nintendo removed the chants from OOT. Oh well, if Sony keeps on doing this they will continue to get stomped in NA and even Japan now (surprisingly) so they can keep on going!

Anyway on the bright side at least I can focus on Fable II and co next week!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 17, 2008, 03:40:46 PM
I guess some players that frequent an islamic gaming board or something brought it to MM's attention or something.  And in their original letter they were reasonable enough to request a patch for the already shipped games and for that patch to be included all future printing of the game...

Who knows how that changed into a massive recall.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
Oct 27th is a VERY ambitious date to have a new copy created, stamped, packaged, and shipped.  My guess, is they started working on this a couple weeks ago if we really get it just a week later.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 17, 2008, 04:33:37 PM
I'm just happy it wasn't delayed into November which is what was originally estimated.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 17, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Yeah I'm glad as well. Oh wait no I'm not because Fallout 3 comes out that week. ;)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 08:28:25 PM
Now that I have the PS Eye w/ no LBP, is there anything on the PSN worth buying for it?  Looks like there's a few simple programs for just a few bux.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 17, 2008, 08:31:44 PM
Yeah I'm glad as well. Oh wait no I'm not because Fallout 3 comes out that week. ;)

I have the same problem too, but at least it comes out before Gears of War 2. :P
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 18, 2008, 04:25:37 AM
Burnout Paradise uses it in a token manner.  Eye of Judgement is its real showpiece, but that game - while quite good - is such a niche title that I can't recommend it to anyone but pre-existing trading card game nerds.

You may want to check out some reviews of the PSN titles.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on October 18, 2008, 07:18:50 AM
Someone, please, show me one person who paid upwards of $400 for a PS3 and intends to buy a game centered around online connectivity with NO online access.

Well, is every PS3 owner hardcore?

LBP is getting marketted a lot, I could imagine quite a few non-online PS3 owners to buy the thing.

And hell, I bet they just wanted to avoid all that media crap that happened after that danish newspaper cartoon.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 18, 2008, 08:12:08 AM
Well the thing is not everyone has access to broadband internet and thus has to play offline even in America. So in a way it is actually a smart thing to do. Sony is just doing this to protect their asses since we all know how many times Nintendo Sony and MS got sued over stupid things.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 18, 2008, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from:
 Source (http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:BuPMgf6T4UIJ:community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message%3Fboard.id%3D611%26message.id%3D8388+%22tapha+Niang%22+quran&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk)
To: Sony Computer Entertainment & Media Molecule

While playing your latest game, "LittleBigPlanet" in the first level of the third world in the game (titled "Swinging Safari":smileywink:, I have noticed something strange in the lyrics of the music track of the level. When I listened carefully, I was surprised to hear some very familiar Arabic words from the Quran. You can listen to part of the track here:

mt14.quickshareit.com/share/p...lip22503c0.wav

The words are:

1- In the 18th second: "كل نفس ذائقة الموت" ("kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: 'Every soul shall have the taste of death').

2- Almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "كل من عليها فان" ("kollo man alaiha fan", literally: 'All that is on earth will perish').
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 18, 2008, 03:44:38 PM
I think this story is really interesting because it's an issue that Western game companies really wouldn't even consider during development.  I'm sure somebody said, "Wow, that track sounds really cool, I like the Arabic flavor...let's put it in!"  Not even imagining that such a hubbub would occur.  It's not too bad for Sony though, because 1) People will still buy the game in droves; 2) If anything it gives LBP even more publicity than it's already received; and 3) Now Sony's "sensitivity" makes them look like the good guys.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 20, 2008, 02:09:51 AM
Apparently it is November 7th for Australia according to EB games. I kind of doubt this considering that the 7th is a Friday and we usually get our games on Thursdays. I was hoping to have it this week so it wouldn't be competing with exams, oh well.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 21, 2008, 11:35:12 AM
Looks like Walmarts all over are still selling it today.  I'd jump on it but I already have a pre order and gift card at Best Buy:

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2008/10/21/littlebigplanet-delayed-nobody-told-wal-mart/
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 21, 2008, 12:55:26 PM
SO PISSED!

Just went there.  They were literally pulling the game from the shelf as I got there.  I fed them some BS, saying I called this morning and was told they were selling it, only to drive all the way out on my lunch to get a copy and get told that.  They got a manager for me... The manager agreed to sell me a copy, only to have the register not allow it...

So it's official, you can't get it at Wal-Mart anymore and I missed the boat...

Uncle Bob, you didn't happen to buy any copies to sell to your fellow forum members did you? =P
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 21, 2008, 01:09:18 PM
SO PISSED!

Just went there.  They were literally pulling the game from the shelf as I got there.  I fed them some BS, saying I called this morning and was told they were selling it, only to drive all the way out on my lunch to get a copy and get told that.  They got a manager for me... The manager agreed to sell me a copy, only to have the register not allow it...

So it's official, you can't get it at Wal-Mart anymore and I missed the boat...

Uncle Bob, you didn't happen to buy any copies to sell to your fellow forum members did you? =P

Oh man dude, that SUX!!!!  To get all the way to the register and get denied like that is awful.  You should have just grabbed the game and ran off!!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 21, 2008, 03:45:50 PM
Yeah that really sucks considering I know how far Pale had to drive (and the traffic he had to brave) to get to that Walmart. Lame dude, I was going to stop at Walmart after work but I may as well not bother at this point.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 21, 2008, 03:53:34 PM
More like Little BUG Planet
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 21, 2008, 05:18:25 PM
Sony loves to censor. (http://kotaku.com/5066218/islamic-group-weighs-in-on-lbp-recall) Sony just got burned by the same faith that they were trying to not disrespect.

Oh, and by the way I listened to this song that is supposed to be removed... I didn't like it, and I'm glad it is being removed. It's just not within my taste, that's all.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 21, 2008, 05:59:13 PM
Its a crap storm either way.  Just probably less of a crap storm this way.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 22, 2008, 09:47:57 AM
Nobody would have noticed if Sony hadn't done anything about it.  They made it a big deal when the shouldn't have, and as a result, a million dvd cases and discs are going to be stuck in a landfill.  STUPID.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 22, 2008, 10:13:38 AM
And they were blasted by certain religious groups regardless.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 22, 2008, 10:51:54 AM
Yes, but they were only blasted figuratively.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 22, 2008, 12:17:43 PM
Nobody would have noticed if Sony hadn't done anything about it.  They made it a big deal when the shouldn't have, and as a result, a million dvd cases and discs are going to be stuck in a landfill.  STUPID.

How can you say nobody would have noticed when somebody already did?  Sony absolutely did the right thing here.  Even the hint of slandering the Muslim faith isn't something that companies need to be touching with a ten-foot pole.  It's just too hot a topic these days.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 22, 2008, 12:41:41 PM
So how long before a user created level pops up that does a parody on the whole fiasco?   8)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 22, 2008, 02:26:55 PM
I won't argue that no one would have noticed, but I will argue that it is stupid. This is why we have the ability to patch games now. Sony could've dropped a patch out there for everyone and anyone who complained, Sony could've showed how they made the effort to fix the situation.

They could've also issued a recall for anyone who didn't have internet and was grossly offended by the content. So in conclusion,

They made it a big deal when the shouldn't have, and as a result, a million dvd cases and discs are going to be stuck in a landfill.  STUPID.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 22, 2008, 02:53:47 PM
What I'm trying to say is that, to placate the particular offended parties in this case, nothing short of a full recall would do.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 22, 2008, 02:56:13 PM
What I'm trying to say is that, to placate the particular offended parties in this case, nothing short of a full recall would do.

Fair enough, a sad reality though.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: King of Twitch on October 22, 2008, 02:59:28 PM
Give in now, and the next thing you know they'll be rioting over cartoons
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 22, 2008, 04:42:39 PM
Nobody would have noticed if Sony hadn't done anything about it.  They made it a big deal when the shouldn't have, and as a result, a million dvd cases and discs are going to be stuck in a landfill.  STUPID.

How can you say nobody would have noticed when somebody already did?  Sony absolutely did the right thing here.  Even the hint of slandering the Muslim faith isn't something that companies need to be touching with a ten-foot pole.  It's just too hot a topic these days.

I was exaggerating with the no one would notice thing... but this is what would have happened.  The game would have come out.  A couple people would have complained.  If it got big enough that it became a stink, the respected Islamic organizations (http://kotaku.com/5066218/islamic-group-weighs-in-on-lbp-recall) would issue a well written piece about censorship and it would have been over.

Hell, absolute WORST CASE SCENARIO you just issue a patch and apologize.  They didn't have to trash all those copies.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 22, 2008, 04:48:48 PM
I would just freaking LOVE IT if Green Peace attacked Sony for the waste.  They should be forced to prove how they are recycling as many of the discs and cases as physically possible.  All parties involved in this situation deserve even more bad press.... well, except for Media Molecule.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 22, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
Green Peace attacking Sony, now THAT would be funny!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 22, 2008, 06:26:41 PM
Pale, it's no different than the recall that Nintendo did with the NES in Japan back in the day.  I wonder what happened to all of those systems?  They're probably in a Tokyo landfill right now.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 22, 2008, 06:39:48 PM
Pale, it's no different than the recall that Nintendo did with the NES in Japan back in the day.  I wonder what happened to all of those systems?  They're probably in Dubai with the Virtual Boy's right now.

Correction
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 22, 2008, 07:17:19 PM
Pale, it's no different than the recall that Nintendo did with the NES in Japan back in the day.  I wonder what happened to all of those systems?  They're probably in a Tokyo landfill right now.

That is a good thing though. When the world collapses and technology is wiped out people will be able to start anew with those buried NESs and the chips inside the ET cartridges.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 24, 2008, 09:37:52 PM
Gamestop supposedly has copies tomorrow if you haven't gotten yours yet.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 25, 2008, 12:52:53 AM
I got a call today from my local EB telling me they had my copy, so its beyond a supposition for me. Hope you guys can get your copies tomorrow.

Edit: Got it, and it's quite enjoyable. Now when are they going to allow us to retrieve the pre-order goodies because I sure want my Kratos and cosmonaut sackboy costumes.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 25, 2008, 11:27:29 PM
I looked around for a copy today.  Came up empty.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 27, 2008, 03:09:43 PM
I can't wait to play some online/offline co-op. It's a good game.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 27, 2008, 04:05:23 PM
I looked around for a copy today.  Came up empty.

Yeah for me, I got mine today, but boo for me because I can't play it until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: that Baby guy on October 27, 2008, 04:12:28 PM
Meh, I'm with Pale.  It's not a big deal.  You can't have freedom of religion without freedom of speech and freedom of press.  The few offended would be a minority.  Sony should have released a patch and been done with it, not recalled a million copies.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 27, 2008, 06:08:45 PM
Got my copy today. Add me on PSN (ICallItFutile) if you want to play.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 27, 2008, 07:16:21 PM
The curse of living in the Mountains!!  My Best Buy won't have it until Thursday!! 
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Gylldas on October 27, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
I'm gonna pick up my copy during the weekend.  Working on Eternal Sonata now and I have two exams this week to focus on.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 27, 2008, 08:22:54 PM
I moved this over to my Christmas list, so I'll get it in a couple of months.  I cancelled my pre-order because I have waaaaay too many games already in the queue.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 27, 2008, 11:26:58 PM
Picked it up today...had a lot of fun until we realized that in order for my fiancees scores to be recorded we had to create a second account on my PS3 for her.... which then meant that she couldn't use the Nariko costume. LAME.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 28, 2008, 06:27:55 PM
Are you really playing the levels for points? The only reason to get points with this game is for the 4 trophies (2X, 8X, 20X, 1 MILLION points), and you can easily get them from a couple of online levels that were created just for those 4 trophies plus the speed and height trophies. I'm playing this game just for the platforming, the very few puzzle elements, the customization, the collecting. Even online I've found some levels that are great.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Rhoq on October 30, 2008, 09:29:13 AM
LBP has the potential to become the greatest platforming game, ever. Some of the user created content is mind-blowing. The creativity, thought and attention to detail people have put into their custom made levels is impressive, and this is only week one into the game.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 30, 2008, 10:52:57 AM
I'm loving it so far as well, I just hope they release a patch or some DLC to give Sackboy some new moves as well as the option to change his jumping and landing mechanics.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 30, 2008, 11:52:26 AM
They've already said that they're going to patch it to mess around with the physics.  Even one of the Media Molecule guys admitted that the jumping and moving between planes isn't as good as it should be.

Anybody read the CrispyGamer review?  It was negative, but brought up some good points.  The guy likened it to a "FrankenGame" with no real overarching point, like "Save the Princess" for instance.  He said that it felt "cobbled together".  Anybody have thoughts on this point of view?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 30, 2008, 12:03:08 PM
They've already said that they're going to patch it to mess around with the physics.  Even one of the Media Molecule guys admitted that the jumping and moving between planes isn't as good as it should be.

Anybody read the CrispyGamer review?  It was negative, but brought up some good points.  The guy likened it to a "FrankenGame" with no real overarching point, like "Save the Princess" for instance.  He said that it felt "cobbled together".  Anybody have thoughts on this point of view?

Well I played the game for a bit and it is a great game but most of the user created levels are lamely designed IMO. Many seem designed around precision jumping and with the floaty jumping physics that is a big no-no.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 30, 2008, 12:38:45 PM
Anybody read the CrispyGamer review?  It was negative, but brought up some good points.  The guy likened it to a "FrankenGame" with no real overarching point, like "Save the Princess" for instance.  He said that it felt "cobbled together".  Anybody have thoughts on this point of view?

Interesting take, I'll have to read through it today when I've got some time.  After spending a few hours with it myself its still too early to make any cohesive judgement, but thus far, absolutely no regrets in the purchase.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 30, 2008, 04:56:10 PM
I figured out how to get other profiles your DLC on your PS3.  You have to start the game up as them and then it's there.  If you never start the game as them they don't have it.  Pretty strange.  You MAY have to redownload the file and install it as them, but I don't think so... So here are the steps.

1. Go to the downloads list in the playstation store and redownload the DLC, quickly pressing the "Perform in Background" button so that it doesn't auto-install it. ***
2. Create your extra PS3 system profile for the new player.
3. Switch to that new profile.
4. Install the DLC as that new profile. ***
5. Start up the game as that new profile.
6. Play long enough to get to the pod.
7. Confirm DLC is in the game.
8. Quit.
9. Switch back to primary profile.
10. Choose that new profile when the second player connects, all DLC should be present.


*** These steps may not actually be necessary.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 31, 2008, 12:29:20 AM
Prices for DLC have been announced.

Special event / community costumes (eg Spaceboy etc) = Free
Normal costumes = $1
'Premium' costumes (eg Solid Snake) = $2
LBP DLC Details (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/10/30/available-116-official-lbp-dlc-on-the-playstation-store/)

Can't say I'll get any of these, especially because the prices will probably double for the AUS store. I'd be more interested in the briefly mentioned popit expansions, for materials etc.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 31, 2008, 01:27:30 AM
That's extremely disappointing.  Can't say I'll be able to rationalize spending a buck on a new outfit.  So did none hit the store today?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 31, 2008, 01:57:44 AM
Ah I'm pretty sure that the Spaceboy and Pumpkin costumes are up on the JP store. Apparently they are not compatible with US copies of the game though. I think NA/AU/EU stores will all be getting content on 6th as that is the date when it comes out both here and in EU. I'm not sure why you guys ahve to wait.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 31, 2008, 11:08:31 AM
Anybody read the CrispyGamer review?  It was negative, but brought up some good points.  The guy likened it to a "FrankenGame" with no real overarching point, like "Save the Princess" for instance.  He said that it felt "cobbled together".  Anybody have thoughts on this point of view?

Well I read the review last night, and I definitely agree with a lot of the criticisms like sketchy controls, collectathons, lives system, and the overall game lacking a driving focus and feeling a bit slapped together.  But, I disagree with him in the magnitude of these faults.  To declare "Fry It" upon these short comings is a bit absurd to say the least.  If nothing else, its at least worth a rental for those that know they won't be able to commit the time to level construction or trying out all the user made content.  The visuals alone, make it a game every PS3 owner should at least experience on some level.

Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 31, 2008, 11:54:24 AM
I can't wait to make my sackboy gear himself up with that cosmonaut suit, and I'm glad it's free because i don't think I will be spending any money on extra suits.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 31, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
Quote
D_Average  The visuals alone, make it a game every PS3 owner should at least experience on some level.

Unless you feel visuals aren't what makes a game good, of course.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on October 31, 2008, 12:24:40 PM
My fiancee and I actually died on a level three times in a row before moving on to something different for a while.  I didn't expect to actually get some legitimate difficulty, and I was quite pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 31, 2008, 12:27:56 PM
I think it's at least a must-rent.  However, if you have kids, the second they see it it'll probably be a must-buy.

I commend what Media Molecule has done here, though.  Much like Nintendo is seeding the next generation of video game fans by making content that's accessible to everyone (kids especially), MM is seeding the next generation of game designers by giving them such a robust toolkit to play around with (that's wrapped in an accessible package).  Most people probably won't touch the level editor, but there will be a few kids out there that will fall in love with designing their own levels, and they'll probably be making the games we play 10 or 15 years down the line.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 31, 2008, 01:08:03 PM
I still wonder how well the game will sell. Personally I hope it sells well because it is a fabulous step in the right direction when it comes to level design (though some of those users who create levels need to be slapped for creating stages with precision jumping). Also I would like to see more variety in creature design.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 31, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
I want a  "Little Bionic Sackboy" , complete with the robotic arm.  Now that is some DLC I would PAY for!!

Or even a "Devin Hester" costume, with some cleats to prevent the constant slipping.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 31, 2008, 02:42:14 PM
Finished the game. Even though I'm over 75% of collectibles and far from really have finished the game, I'm going to start playing with the create mode. All the tutorials that I was allowed to do (I didn't get the trophy for having done all tutorials) were quite easy to understand and replicate, and I think that what's more overwhelming about the create mode is not the amount of tools and items to be used, but I think the overwhelming sense comes from the fact that creating is so much harder and everything has to be planned and then tested. I guess I will come up with a few basic levels with my tinkering.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on October 31, 2008, 02:45:02 PM
Finished the game. Even though I'm over 75% of collectibles and far from really have finished the game, I'm going to start playing with the create mode. All the tutorials that I was allowed to do (I didn't get the trophy for having done all tutorials) were quite easy to understand and replicate, and I think that what's more overwhelming about the create mode is not the amount of tools and items to be used, but I think the overwhelming sense comes from the fact that creating is so much harder and everything has to be planned and then tested. I guess I will come up with a few basic levels with my tinkering.
.

How long would you estimate it took you to "beat" it?  I'm getting completely owned by the dynamite boss.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on October 31, 2008, 02:55:39 PM
I honestly have no idea. I would say that it can be beat under 10 hours if not even less, but I probably put in almost 15 hours considering the many times I replayed levels and mini-games to collect prize bubbles.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on November 03, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
If you guys haven't played it already, here is one remake level definately worth your time:
http://kotaku.com/5074951/littlebigplanet-as-a-shmup

Just search "RR3000" and it should pop up.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 06, 2008, 08:06:31 PM
Costumes are up on the AUS store, prices are extreme:

Spacesuit, Pumpkin head = free
Motorstorm = A$3.45
Rare week 1 Tshirt = A$8.45

Haha, the 'rare' tshirt looks like crap.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on November 06, 2008, 09:26:31 PM
The space suit has one flaw. The visor should have been transparent.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on November 06, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
Anyone get the feeling lately the game was REALLY delayed to fix the servers......   ;)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 07, 2008, 11:50:07 AM
I'm sure that was a nice little bonus for their IT people.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 17, 2008, 07:05:08 PM
The Ico user level is AMAZING!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 17, 2008, 09:30:04 PM
As in the musical one?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 18, 2008, 03:02:32 PM
The same guy made another level that is essentially an abridged version of the game.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on November 18, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
Anyone else not yet finish the story mode yet?  I'm starting to get trapped in that "Sub Space I don't really feel like finishing it" kind of feeling.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 18, 2008, 05:07:23 PM
The same guy made another level that is essentially an abridged version of the game.

I'll have to check that out.

Anyone else not yet finish the story mode yet?  I'm starting to get trapped in that "Sub Space I don't really feel like finishing it" kind of feeling.

I think I'm nearing the end, I'm up to the Bunker (damn expandinators killing me!). So my lack of finishing is more due to lack of skill, which I am having trouble coming to terms with since I 100%ed Super Mario World.

I've been spending more time on create mode, and recently completed my first retail version level it's called Temple of the Hippos, if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 18, 2008, 06:22:18 PM
I think I'll be getting this for Christmas.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on November 18, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
The same guy made another level that is essentially an abridged version of the game.

I'll have to check that out.

Anyone else not yet finish the story mode yet?  I'm starting to get trapped in that "Sub Space I don't really feel like finishing it" kind of feeling.

I think I'm nearing the end, I'm up to the Bunker (damn expandinators killing me!). So my lack of finishing is more due to lack of skill, which I am having trouble coming to terms with since I 100%ed Super Mario World.

I've been spending more time on create mode, and recently completed my first retail version level it's called Temple of the Hippos, if anyone's interested.

Awesome, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 18, 2008, 08:41:09 PM
Don't get too excited! But thanks ;)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on November 26, 2008, 02:32:30 PM
Anyone ever see or play Rag Doll Kung Fu?  It was made by Media Molecules founder right before creating LBP.  You can definitely see where LBP got its roots from in this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-7oNFTaIg&feature=related
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on January 02, 2009, 08:02:20 PM
I found this cool community level that I'm sure some of you will like to try. It's called "UNOFFICIAL SACKBOY COSTUMES (free stickers)".

Now, I had already started messing around with my sackboy by adding a few items onto its Roman helmet, but after going through (you don't really play it) this community level I had the inspiration to make a lot more adjustments to my sackboy.

The result from such inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H70Mdzde1mA

I tried taking some photos with my digital camera but they weren't coming out good, so I just filmed my first sackboy mod in all its glory.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Kairon on January 08, 2009, 06:15:40 PM
Apparently the game has moved 1.3 million units for Sony.

http://kotaku.com/5126304/ces-09-kaz-says-littlebigplanet-has-sold-13-million-psn-accounts-at-17-million

There was some backlash against the game when it failed to post the numbers everyone was hyped up for, but I'm happy to see that the game has performed admirably in the end despite all the negativity. Same goes for Wii music. It's great to root for the underdog!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on January 08, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
Kairon, you should really play this game, and also see how good some of the creations from the LBP community are.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Kairon on January 08, 2009, 10:18:32 PM
A friend brought his PS3 over to my place once. We only got to play the beginning levels and reach South America, I hear the later ones are so much better... But yeah, this game is some sort of awesome. I knew it from the moment I first set eyes on it.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on January 08, 2009, 11:57:57 PM
A friend brought his PS3 over to my place once. We only got to play the beginning levels and reach South America, I hear the later ones are so much better... But yeah, this game is some sort of awesome. I knew it from the moment I first set eyes on it.

Assuming you're a Nintendo fan...you'd definately dig it  8)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on January 09, 2009, 03:36:03 AM
Apparently the game has moved 1.3 million units for Sony.

http://kotaku.com/5126304/ces-09-kaz-says-littlebigplanet-has-sold-13-million-psn-accounts-at-17-million

There was some backlash against the game when it failed to post the numbers everyone was hyped up for, but I'm happy to see that the game has performed admirably in the end despite all the negativity. Same goes for Wii music. It's great to root for the underdog!

Well, Sony was hyping it up as the game to save the PS3 from last place.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 12:45:03 PM
Apparently the game has moved 1.3 million units for Sony.

http://kotaku.com/5126304/ces-09-kaz-says-littlebigplanet-has-sold-13-million-psn-accounts-at-17-million

There was some backlash against the game when it failed to post the numbers everyone was hyped up for, but I'm happy to see that the game has performed admirably in the end despite all the negativity. Same goes for Wii music. It's great to root for the underdog!

Well, Sony was hyping it up as the game to save the PS3 from last place.
Well, Sony will hype every big game that is released from now on to be that.  It's not a very fair way to gauge a title's success.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 09, 2009, 01:05:01 PM
See, I am constantly wondering if LBP is a hit or failure.

Most people see the game as a failure because of all the hype and marketing (Sean Malstrom used the game as an example of user generated content not having a future, and the Game Overthinker used its "failure" to preach about the doom of gaming).

Yet, the sales estimates have it selling at a steady pace and looks to be a big PS3 seller.

So which is it? Is LBP a hit or a flop?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
See, I am constantly wondering if LBP is a hit or failure.

Most people see the game as a failure because of all the hype and marketing (Sean Malstrom used the game as an example of user generated content not having a future, and the Game Overthinker used its "failure" to preach about the doom of gaming).

Yet, the sales estimates have it selling at a steady pace and looks to be a big PS3 seller.

So which is it? Is LBP a hit or a flop?

Probably depends on how much money they poured into it through various means and the return it got. For example the new Tomb Raider sold 1.5 million or so and those numbers are considered disappointing.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 01:51:56 PM
I'd love to see how they are doing on the DLC too.  I have to think it's one of the best DLC revenue getters on the platform.

The game is so damn cute, I've even purchased outfits... bonafied horse armor.

Then the Metal Gear Solid level pack with the new gun item... that had to have sold like crazy too.

I personally don't think LBP will have any problem being profitable... and I bet it will be a extremely so at that.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Exactly what GP said.  It all comes down to your goals.

The developer's probably thrilled by the sales as well as the critical reception.

Sony's probably a little bummed because it doesn't seem like the game sold many systems.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 09, 2009, 02:41:49 PM
I guess the real question should be...

Do game companies focus on first week sales or on overall lifetime sales?

If so, LBP was a flop at launch, but became a hit afterwards.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Kairon on January 09, 2009, 03:22:40 PM
I can see why we measure LBP against these other expectations... but on some base level we have to acknowledge that for a game like this 1.3 million units in just, what, 2-3 months of sales, is a good performance. Heck, it may even go up in the future with long sales legs. And since this is on a system in third place, I'd think it's roughly equivalent to the sales performance of Metroid Prime 2 at least...
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
I can see why we measure LBP against these other expectations... but on some base level we have to acknowledge that for a game like this 1.3 million units in just, what, 2-3 months of sales, is a good performance. Heck, it may even go up in the future with long sales legs. And since this is on a system in third place, I'd think it's roughly equivalent to the sales performance of Metroid Prime 2 at least...

That is a bad comparison. The HD consoles are VASTLY more expensive to develop games for so you need to have vastly better sales. While a MP title could probably get away with just 1 million copies and make a profit, LBP probably cannot when you factor in development costs and marketing.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on January 09, 2009, 03:46:45 PM
Wasn't MP2E the worst performing part of the series?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Kairon on January 09, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Wasn't MP2E the worst performing part of the series?

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean it lost money did it? It also doesn't mean that we shun it like the plague, or abuse it every chance we get, does it?

That is a bad comparison. The HD consoles are VASTLY more expensive to develop games for so you need to have vastly better sales. While a MP title could probably get away with just 1 million copies and make a profit, LBP probably cannot when you factor in development costs and marketing.

Well, from what I hear LBP had a 25 person dev team, so it couldn't have been ginormously expensive. As for ad costs, I don't know.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
Wasn't MP2E the worst performing part of the series?

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean it lost money did it? It also doesn't mean that we shun it like the plague, or abuse it every chance we get, does it?

That is a bad comparison. The HD consoles are VASTLY more expensive to develop games for so you need to have vastly better sales. While a MP title could probably get away with just 1 million copies and make a profit, LBP probably cannot when you factor in development costs and marketing.

Well, from what I hear LBP had a 25 person dev team, so it couldn't have been ginormously expensive. As for ad costs, I don't know.

I doubt it was cheap though, it still is a visually impressive game. Not to mention I would guess marketing was through the roof.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Kairon on January 11, 2009, 07:46:11 PM
Assuming you're a Nintendo fan...you'd definately dig it  8)

What? You mean this is in doubt? T_T
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on January 12, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
Finished the story levels and MGS levels recently.

The MGS levels were absolute genius.  I can't wait for more level packs to be released.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on January 12, 2009, 12:58:53 PM
The paintinator can be quite a fun tool.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on January 12, 2009, 01:27:06 PM
The fact that the entire story arc for the Metal Gear Solid levels is that someone is flooding the user content with lame "get trophies" levels still has me laughing. =P
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on January 12, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
I know what you mean. I played this level that had almost 300 user created trophies, and the worst part is that no where did it say they were user created of which I did not want any.

I want the 4X trophies that will be very hard for me to get.

Oh, and I just remembered of this user created level that is a total riot, and that I bet that any poster on this forum will be familiar with.

I wish there was a way to recommend user created levels to my friends through the LBP menu.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 12, 2009, 07:19:27 PM
I wish there was a way to recommend user created levels to my friends through the LBP menu.

The fact that this game is being sold as a kind of social networking (not necessarily by Sony, but I've heard some make the argument) and the lack of such a feature are in direct conflict with each other.

Even if the price drops by $100 I don't know if I can find enough reason to buy a PS3, but I'll buy one at some point and this is the first game I'll get for it.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Pale on January 12, 2009, 11:12:46 PM
You can do that.  Basically heart all the levels you like.  Then your friends can view which levels you've hearted.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Plugabugz on January 13, 2009, 03:16:06 PM
I managed to grab this for £20. i'm mighty impressed.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Halbred on January 13, 2009, 03:33:22 PM
Great game, and I haven't even tried making my own level yet.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Caliban on January 13, 2009, 04:38:37 PM
You can do that.  Basically heart all the levels you like.  Then your friends can view which levels you've hearted.

*FACEPALM*
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 28, 2009, 09:34:14 PM
Video of Little Big Contra made by a bunch of NeoGaf members (http://www.shackvideo.com/?id=13809)
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NovaQ on March 01, 2009, 12:33:24 PM
Holy cow, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 01, 2009, 12:37:55 PM
Yeah the 7 neogaf members actually remade all 8 Contra levels.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NovaQ on March 01, 2009, 12:42:32 PM
They even got the bosses. I've never played LBP before, but I assume the level editor doesn't have any "demon alien boss" pieces to work with. Those GAF members must've put some serious time and effort into this.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 01, 2009, 01:58:05 PM
Yeah, LBP has a lot of templates to work which is awesome, the level editor in LBP makes the level editor in Blast Works on Wii seem like child's play and both of them are so great that you can literally make a game out of them.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on March 01, 2009, 02:24:59 PM
Are these levels still up to play or has MM deleted them?  If they're still up, what do I search for?
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NovaQ on March 01, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
Yeah, LBP has a lot of templates to work which is awesome, the level editor in LBP makes the level editor in Blast Works on Wii seem like child's play and both of them are so great that you can literally make a game out of them.

That reminds me of RPG Maker. Way back, a friend of mine and I tried to make a game with one of the earlier iterations in that series (on PC, I think). We had some neat ideas, but we didn't get very far. I think the interface in that game was simply too confusing for our middle school minds. With Wii's interface as it is, it would be great if it had more streamlined, but still robust, RPG or platformer makers.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 01, 2009, 05:39:43 PM
Look for Little Big Contra in the cool pages in LBP.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: D_Average on March 01, 2009, 06:22:51 PM
Look for Little Big Contra in the cool pages in LBP.

Found it thanks!

Man, the controls in LBP + the difficulty of Contra almost made me through the controller through the TV.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: KDR_11k on March 05, 2009, 08:27:12 AM
Yeah, LBP has a lot of templates to work which is awesome, the level editor in LBP makes the level editor in Blast Works on Wii seem like child's play and both of them are so great that you can literally make a game out of them.

That's because Blast Works was apparently designed by morons in that respect who forgot that people might want to actually make different games that use different mechanics (can't even attach a specific player ship to a level!).
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: bustin98 on March 05, 2009, 11:19:53 AM
My cousin has made several LBP levels based on old school games. Sac Man, Mission Possible, and one based on Space Invaders. Mission Possible only has like 10 people who finished it. Which is too bad because it has a cool ending. Look up JediJeff sometime.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: ThePerm on March 09, 2009, 07:04:28 PM
i like ascii's RPG maker 95, i made some stuff. I just never finished it, but it was basically a whole game. I just needed to fill the dungeons and come up with a decent plotline
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: NovaQ on March 09, 2009, 08:52:17 PM
The only thing I can remember about the game my friend and I started in RPG Maker was his awesomely lame-ass opening voice sample: "Let the journey begin," in nasally, middle-school-esque glory.
Title: Re: Little Big Planet
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 10, 2009, 01:58:56 PM
So I played the demo of this game at Toys R Us.  I must say that the demo really sucks, and must not be representative of the game as a whole.  And I don't mean the obvious lack of level creation.  But the platforming was dull and I the control was off. 

I never felt like I had control of my character.