But Tom Welling would be funny because that would somehow bring Smallville in the Arrowverse... which means that "Justice Society" w/ Speedguy, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Cyborg, Clark, and whoever else existed in that show would have to also exist.Man, trying to put all that together and explain it sounds like the writers would have quite a crisis on their hands... ;)
which gives us two Supergirls... one of which who is currently "Brainiac."
In before Warner Bros drags the whole plan out behind the shed and has it shot.
Who's excited for The Killing Joke?What the filmmakers did to Batgirl should make you want to punch things.
Who's excited for The Killing Joke?What the filmmakers did to Batgirl should make you want to punch things.
Who's excited for The Killing Joke?What the filmmakers did to Batgirl should make you want to punch things.
Yeah, I heard that and I don't even know if I want to buy it anymore. Bruce Timm always had a weird kink.
Who's excited for The Killing Joke?What the filmmakers did to Batgirl should make you want to punch things.
Considering that exact same thing was implied in Batman Beyond, I'd have to disagree with that.It wasn't okay in Batman Beyond either. Batgirl is typically portrayed as around the same age as Robin with Batman acting as a parental figure so pairing Batgirl and Batman can get the **** out of any continuity.
It was already mentioned in the "New Movies and TV to Watch for" thread but there a crossover storyline involving all 4 shows next year (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/19/cw-crossover-arrow-flash-legends-tomorrow-supergirl) But I think it will only be 4 episodes long. 1 in each show. Still, I'm looking forward that. Last year's Flash/Arrow crossover was really good and in general, whenever the shows crossover a couple characters into an episode, it generally seems to up that show's game for at least that episode like the King Shark episode in Flash and the Flash/Supergirl crossover. Hope they keep that trend going.
Everytime I see this thread I want to post stuff about the District of Columbia (where I live).
Everytime I see this thread I want to post stuff about the District of Columbia (where I live).
Wait, you live in DC? I live in Silver Spring.
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- In early cuts, the movie's opening detailed June Moon's posession by Enchantress in real tome. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot.
- Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.
- El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.
- El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quel his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.
- Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang's racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behaviour, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.
- Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearancr and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham's crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as 'beautiful,' one of these were retained in the final cut.
- Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.
- Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.
- More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon's romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.
- Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date.
- "Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, "I can't wait to show you my toys," which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie."
- Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.
- Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker's head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.
- Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker.
- Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.
- Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.
- Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley's neck-bomb to be disabled.
- More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad.
- Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone's orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, "is a good idea." The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot's speech about them all almost pulling the mission off.
- Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.
- Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.
- Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.
I wonder who the villain will be? I'm guessing either Brainiac or Metallo. Lobo (but only Ron Perlman) could work and even tie in to the JL film, with Lobo looking to collect a bounty set up by Darkseid.
I think, if they really wanted to do a "soft" reboot and just completely shift the tone and breath life into the film, they should go with Simon Pegg as Manchester Black. I think with a little hair dye and a badass jacket, he'd be perfect. Might be a good way for Superman to re-establish a moral highground. Bu
I just hope Snyder is NOT directing it, as I think he already made his bed and should focus on making JL an actual good movie before DC makes him stand in the corner w/ a producer credit and no directorial efforts going forward.
I wonder who the villain will be? I'm guessing either Brainiac or Metallo. Lobo (but only Ron Perlman) could work and even tie in to the JL film, with Lobo looking to collect a bounty set up by Darkseid.
I think, if they really wanted to do a "soft" reboot and just completely shift the tone and breath life into the film, they should go with Simon Pegg as Manchester Black. I think with a little hair dye and a badass jacket, he'd be perfect. Might be a good way for Superman to re-establish a moral highground.
If DC doesn't use Brainiac or Metallo for the next movie, an adaptation of What's So Funny about Truth, Justice, & the American Way would be a wise decision for them to make. It's the perfect way to recenter Superman back to where he should be.
If DC doesn't use Brainiac or Metallo for the next movie, an adaptation of What's So Funny about Truth, Justice, & the American Way would be a wise decision for them to make. It's the perfect way to recenter Superman back to where he should be.
Agreed. And they already have an animated adaptation of that story that can be used as a starting point.
When I was laughing at slipknots death, my mom asked why I laughed, I told her he's a useless character, all he does is tie knots.
The next set of movies is going to be Batman and Wonder Woman and Justice League. I'm most excited for the Batman movie. I just wonder what they hell are they going to do with it?
In an Alternate universe Heath Ledger wouldn't have died and the sequel to the Dark Knight would have been the beginning of the DC universe. Or alternatively, they would have made better choices with Green Lantern and that would have kicked off the DC universe.
I mean with Green Lantern if they decided not to CG his suit and given him a cool villain then I bet it would have taken off.
well here's the original script
http://www.digititles.com/movies/green-lantern-2011/scripts/script-first-draft-june-2008
I haven't read it, but since you like the movie that was made, you can compare with the movie that almost was and see which one you actually preferred.
well here's the original script
http://www.digititles.com/movies/green-lantern-2011/scripts/script-first-draft-june-2008 (http://www.digititles.com/movies/green-lantern-2011/scripts/script-first-draft-june-2008)
I haven't read it, but since you like the movie that was made, you can compare with the movie that almost was and see which one you actually preferred.
Finally something to get HYPED about!!
Straight from Ben Affleck on facebook
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TV version looks cooler. Almost.
TV Version looks like a hardened mercenary.
Test Footage looks like a (cyborg) character from Mortal Kombat
that said, they both look pretty badass, which is more a compliment for the TV version considering they had practically no budget with a Big5 Sporting Goods gift card and 2 cans of spraypaint.
Best part of Teen Titans Go:
I like it. It's easy to put on every once and awhile and listen to some dumb jokes. The music though, as already pointed out, is definitely the best part.
My favorite is this clip
Cracks me up everytime. I forget which beat they stole. I wish I could remember.
Please tell me you don't like Teen Titans Go!
Just adding my two cents that Teen Titans Go is probably the best DC property active in TV/Film right now. Granted, that's not really saying a whole lot - but it really is a great show to kill 10 mins now and then.
Actually WB DC TV shows are really killing it. The Arrow although not as great as previous seasons is entertaining and feels comic accurate as does The Flash. Super girl had some problems in the first season, but perhaps the second season and move to a new network will give it the freedom to embrace the Super-Property more and move away from singularly focused girl power aspect of the show.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/geoff-johns-on-the-future-of-dc-movies-relax-were-cha-1786394751?
Jeoff Johns is "rebirthing" the DCCU to have more hope and optimism. Plans to address all the things that were "off" in BvS.
Actually WB DC TV shows are really killing it. The Arrow although not as great as previous seasons is entertaining and feels comic accurate as does The Flash. Super girl had some problems in the first season, but perhaps the second season and move to a new network will give it the freedom to embrace the Super-Property more and move away from singularly focused girl power aspect of the show.
Arrow has tanked in quality compared to earlier seasons. And I am so over the Felicity drama.
Flash is pretty awesome.
Supergirl... Meh. The Flash episode was the best thing out of it. I haven't given up on it, but I wouldn't have cried if it had just been cancelled instead of moving to CW.
I noticed you left out Legends of Tomorrow... ;)
I thought the people on these forums would appreciate this video
I was looking for a Night begins to Shine Cover.
for the OP
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Wonder Woman Woes!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rEYHUsEc18&feature=youtu.be&t=6093
:(
Flashpoint to be the new storyline of the Flash solo movie?
might as well schedule The Batman to follow that and kick things off right.
of course not.... I almost didn't post it at all, but I figured, Hey! DC's got stuff too, so I might as well share, even if it is not exactly the stuff we wanted (unless it's on TV).
of course not.... I almost didn't post it at all, but I figured, Hey! DC's got stuff too, so I might as well share, even if it is not exactly the stuff we wanted (unless it's on TV).
Also, I thought Superman died.... Why is he still alive in that top pic? ;D
Wonder Woman Woes!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rEYHUsEc18&feature=youtu.be&t=6093
:(
Flashpoint to be the new storyline of the Flash solo movie?
might as well schedule The Batman to follow that and kick things off right.
Looks like I might be right after all....
WB ordered a page 1 rewrite of The Flash script.
my guess is a Snyderless reboot, using time travel by The Flash and leading into The Batman, and then Justice League 2
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/joby-harold-the-flash-script-rewrite-1201969977/
of course not.... I almost didn't post it at all, but I figured, Hey! DC's got stuff too, so I might as well share, even if it is not exactly the stuff we wanted (unless it's on TV).
Also, I thought Superman died.... Why is he still alive in that top pic? ;D
because the warmth of the yellow sun in his coffin six feet under the cold cold earth was rejuvenating him slowly....
or The Flashback to the future
or the rest of the Justice League stole that Superman cardboard cutout from the BvS premiere, and took a pic standing around it.
what you didn't know about the second pic, is that those are Hot Toys figurines that Lex is playing with in his room. And that the entire DCCU is his retelling of a fever dream he had last fall when he had pneumonia, and that's why most of it doesn't make any damn sense.
Cyborg's arm "cannon" is laughably puny.
Wasn't Justice League supposed to be a 2-parter or did that get changed at some point?
who is the one with wings? Is that supposed to be Vixen?
The toymakes probably also make knock-off Disney princess figures and reused the molds for this series.
Black Lightning may be joining the Berlanti-verse on The CW
http://deadline.com/2017/02/black-lightning-dc-comic-drama-move-the-cw-greg-berlanti-1201901139/
Black Lightning may be joining the Berlanti-verse on The CW
http://deadline.com/2017/02/black-lightning-dc-comic-drama-move-the-cw-greg-berlanti-1201901139/
I guess it's been confirmed that Black Lightning is coming to the CW (taking Vamp Diaries place?)
and they also cast their lead
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cress-williams-set-as-black-lightning-cws-greg-berlanti-dc-drama-979515?utm_source=twitter
8th if you count the animated Vixen series. But that's really only a single episode per season broken into 8 five minute segments.Black Lightning may be joining the Berlanti-verse on The CW
http://deadline.com/2017/02/black-lightning-dc-comic-drama-move-the-cw-greg-berlanti-1201901139/ (http://deadline.com/2017/02/black-lightning-dc-comic-drama-move-the-cw-greg-berlanti-1201901139/)
I guess it's been confirmed that Black Lightning is coming to the CW (taking Vamp Diaries place?)
and they also cast their lead
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cress-williams-set-as-black-lightning-cws-greg-berlanti-dc-drama-979515?utm_source=twitter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cress-williams-set-as-black-lightning-cws-greg-berlanti-dc-drama-979515?utm_source=twitter)
It this goes to series this will be the seventh Greg Berlanti (and his studio) has going (the four DC CW series, Blindspot and Riverdale). We won't really get an Arrow season 2 again because all of these shows are pulling for focus.
It appears DC has eyes waaaay bigger than it's plate and certainly large than their stomach
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/warner-bros-plotting-nightwing-movie-lego-batman-movie-director-978737?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/warner-bros-plotting-nightwing-movie-lego-batman-movie-director-978737?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral)
DC Planning a Nightwing movie.
This is while they were having trouble getting The Batman going (Matt Reeves is now signed on to direct though), can't get The Flash back on track, put a hold on Justice League 2, started planning Suicide Squad 2 and Gotham City Sirens, working on details for Green Lantern Corps, all but officaly canceled Cyborg, and are at best getting luke warm reception to Wonder Woman, and are about to get started on Aquaman.
I feel like they are moving way too fast, and that's part of the reason why this "Cinematic Universe" is such a mess right now. They are trying to do way too much too quickly without having ever really decided on what it is exactly that they are doing.
Hugh Jackson as Lobo :P
It this goes to series this will be the seventh Greg Berlanti (and his studio) has going (the four DC CW series, Blindspot and Riverdale). We won't really get an Arrow season 2 again because all of these shows are pulling for focus.
It appears DC has eyes waaaay bigger than it's plate and certainly large than their stomach
DC Planning a Nightwing movie.
This is while they were having trouble getting The Batman going (Matt Reeves is now signed on to direct though), can't get The Flash back on track, put a hold on Justice League 2, started planning Suicide Squad 2 and Gotham City Sirens, working on details for Green Lantern Corps, all but officaly canceled Cyborg, and are at best getting luke warm reception to Wonder Woman, and are about to get started on Aquaman.
I feel like they are moving way too fast, and that's part of the reason why this "Cinematic Universe" is such a mess right now. They are trying to do way too much too quickly without having ever really decided on what it is exactly that they are doing.
Point being that DC needs to figure out what they are doing before they start putting too many pieces on the board, just to show they have as much going on as Marvel.
WW will be the last DCCU I see in theatres. Well, I might still see The Batman. Definitely skipping JL for moral reasons.Hugh Jackson as Lobo :P
Lol, I still have hopes for Ron Pearlman.
WW will be the last DCCU I see in theatres. Well, I might still see The Batman. Definitely skipping JL for moral reasons.Hugh Jackson as Lobo :P
Lol, I still have hopes for Ron Pearlman.
No, Rhea Perlman.
The Batman delayed again, rescripted from scratch.
I feel bad for this movie though. You are going to be telling small origin stories for at least 3 characters. Bringing the characters together, possibly having the characters resolve team problems, introduce a villain in the way of Parademons and therefore Apokolips lore, AND possibly explain how Superman is also comes back?
This movie has A LOT of story to tell, and since they limited it to one movie instead of 2 now. WOW!!! This movie better be like 3 hours.
Lightning will soon strike the hearts and minds of DC fans as a new small screen hero rises. With production underway in Atlanta on the newest #DCTV pilot for The CW, Warner Bros. Television has released the first image of Cress Williams (Hart of Dixie) as Jefferson Pierce—better known as Black Lightning!
The Black Lightning costume was designed by Laura Jean Shannon, whose film and television credits include the upcoming Jumanji sequel, The Jungle Book, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, Blade: Trinity and Iron Man, for which she was nominated for a Costume Designers Guild Award.
The first African-American super hero to have his own standalone comic title, the character of Black Lightning was created by Tony Isabella with Trevor Von Eeden in 1977. The television adaptation tells the tale of a father drawn reluctantly back into the super hero game.
My only issue with Legends of Tomorrow is that they *try* to explain things, then do things two episodes later that completely contradict the explanation they just gave.Time travellers seem to have a far more flexible non-linear timelines that seems to have all events moving in parallel unless they get marooned and become events that get fixed even though it shouldn't happen anymore.Vandal is himself a traveller so he gets to play with his own events and not get crushed under the weight of the paradoxes post Occulus
Like, screw that. There was the episode where they had to stop the Soviets from getting Firestorm tech before the future timelines 'set'. But the entire storyline for the season was going back in time to stop Vandal Savage from taking over... like, why would Soviet Firestorm timeline 'set', but Vandal Savage timeline be so flexible?
The characters don't even know the rules of their own show... how the heck are we supposed to know what's going on?
Wow, the Flashpoint meta cross over episode was lame as hell. I hope they never do something like that ever again.
I suppose what I'm saying here is don't go into it expecting top shelf television because you're going to be disappointed. At least in my humble opinion.
It's funny how that's more true for movies than games now.
Best you get is the director's cut on blu-ray.
The only way a director's cut could've fixed that movie is by cutting it out entirely.
Reviews are in for Wonder Woman, and it is well received by critics!I actually saw this today and It was well worth it.
Metacrtic - 77/100 (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/wonder-woman/critic-reviews)
Rotten Tomatoes - 97% (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wonder_woman_2017/)
Edit: More reviews added, scores updated.
I'm pretty interested in their lineup; however, I can see Snyder ruining all of them.
I'm pretty interested in their lineup; however, I can see Snyder ruining all of them.
Wonder Woman had the same CGI style as all the previous movies; Snyder was still credited. He will continue doing the same going forward.
WW trying to look cute, Flash making a joke, and another clip of WW dancing(?)
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There's roomers floating around that Gareth Edwards (director of The Raid 1 and 2) is going to make a Deathstroke movie.
Batfleck is already planning his exit from this DCEU, so you figure he knows something we don't and he's just not happy with the way things are going. Tarnishing his imdb list with association to all these critically panned releases.
Not wholly terrible.
I feel about it like I felt about Power Rangers. Mostly enjoyable, a lot of missteps, could have been great, would see a sequel, wouldn't be uset if the shelved it.
So, thoughts on how they're going to handle the reboot? We think they'll go the completely obvious route and Flashpoint it?
"If a B character from Marvel shut downs and outperforms the A team from DC, that’s an embarrassment," a Justice League insider tells The Hollywood Reporter, adding, "It’s going to be a stressful weekend for some [Warners] execs."
If they're going to rush through purely to try to rake in money without doing the due preperation then, well they've got noone to blame but themselves. I feel sorry for the actual cast and crew. They have the pleasure of being invited to be involved in what should be one of the greatest comic book based productions of all time. They do their best with what they're given but the money hungry brass just ruin it all. Possibly to the extent where it could damage some careers.
Marvel certainly aren't perfect, but I applaud them wholeheartedly in how they're handling their universe. Taking their time, developing their characters. So much so that they haven't done an objectively bad movie yet. Sure, some have been pretty mediocre, but none are bad.
In a couple of weeks I won't be surprised if the Flashpoint movie just moved up the schedule a few places. Though I think they'd be better off if they just made a point of canning the whole thing and starting fresh. The reboot will still mean the 'new' version will still in some way be connected to the original.
WB/DC leaving a lot of money on the table by rushing thru this for that marvel money while ignoring the basics of good movies first and possible even using the blue print layed out for them of build-up, build up, build-up.
Rotten Tomatoes is toxic. I've been debating this thought with myself for sometime but after watching Justice League I can safely say that the influence of the RT outreaches its usefulness. This movie was straight up dope. It's even too short for it's own good and needs to be 20 minutes longer. I'm not saying this because I disagree with the conscience of RT but because it tens to discourage people from using their own opinions in place of a vocal minority. Citizen Kane this movie is not but the reviews would have you think I just walked out of a of a black and white subtitled version Night Trap. The hive mind controls all. Plus RT gave Iron Man 3 a 79% which should have the site investigated by the Better Business Bureau and charges filled by the State Department for fraud in practice.Yes.
OR
I have terrible taste in movies. I very much enjoyed Prince of Persia, John Carter, Clash of the Titans(remake).
Yes.
Rotten Tomato is terrible as it's statistical foundations is absurd that produce equally absurd results. It doesn't help everything is graded on an equally absurd curve they promotes score inflation where you can see broken shows get an A score.
Metacritic has the same issue that you are dealing with humanity but they cushion that with better statistical frame work and presentation of the data.
You also have terrible taste in movies.
1st look at Robin from upcoming TV show Titans
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http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/12/01/first-look-tvs-newest-robin?sf175027241=1 (http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/12/01/first-look-tvs-newest-robin?sf175027241=1)
Berlanti is involved, but no idea if this is part of Arrowverse as it is airing on the WB streaming service.
Adapt Batgirl:Year One. Easy peasyI am okay with anything but The Killing Joke. Batgirl: Year One would work pretty easily yes.
but that doesn't address the concern of them repeating "Thanos" vs theAvengersJustice League, only with much less build up and fanfare.
Should they still proceed with Darkseid, as stated in JL or should they swerve and do Starro or Bizarro or Braniac or whatever other big villains they got before diving straight into Darkseid?
but that doesn't address the concern of them repeating "Thanos" vs theIf they can make a good movie with Darkseid, that has more reason to exist than "We planned on Darkseid showing up" then go for it. I don't think they can. I don't think they have any motivation for a new Justice League movie period.AvengersJustice League, only with much less build up and fanfare.
Should they still proceed with Darkseid, as stated in JL or should they swerve and do Starro or Bizarro or Braniac or whatever other big villains they got before diving straight into Darkseid?
For that matter, I kind of like that the WB movie-verse is potentially all over the place. I think they should just let different directors or producers tell the story they want with a character. If one director wanted to do a movie with Superman in a futuristic city of tomorrow in a comedy facing off against Mr. Mxyzptlk and someone else wanted to do a Nightwing movie set in the 80's in a Die Hard type situation against a contingent of the League of Assassins holding some people hostage, I say go for it. And if a third person wants to make a movie where Superman and Nightwing team-up with Martin Manhunter to stop a White Martian invasion in a sort of Twilight Zone / Invasion of the Body Snatchers atmosphere then do that to because I don't really care how they can all exist in the same universe or how they would be connected. I don't care if it is a new actor playing the same character for each of those films or the same actor playing all of the characters. It's about the story for me.
To me, most superhero characters are malleable and able to fit in a lot of genres or settings. ...I propose they follow a different Disney path. The Pixar path. Finding Nemo is a different universe than Toy Story which is a different universe than The Incredibles or Wall-E or Inside Out. They've got varying different styles and stories yet their self-contained nature does not diminish them. However, by ensuring that the end product is good for each film, it has created a brand loyalty so that people pay attention when Pixar releases a new film. It almost becomes a ritual to see the latest one. Even though they may have a clunker or two like Cars or Brave because they're unique some people can still like them and there's the knowledge that next time will be different for those who don't like it. I think DC should try and tailor their movies to that approach. I feel it could make for a very special brand of movies and be their best approach to compete with Marvel and possibly create something special like The Dark Knight did. Make it story focused and that each film tells the best story it can with that property or in the setting it's given. Don't worry about connectivity and setting up future sequels or other franchises. Keep it as self-contained as possible.
that’s partly because DC and Warner have adopted a new strategy: Let’s rethink that whole universe thing. They’re not giving up on the idea of continuity, but they want to deemphasize the idea that all of these flicks are occupying the same space. “Our intention, certainly, moving forward is using the continuity to help make sure nothing is diverging in a way that doesn’t make sense, but there’s no insistence upon an overall story line or interconnectivity in that universe,” says Nelson, drawing nods from the top brass around her.
This new approach already has a test case, and, by any measure, it was a successful one: Wonder Woman outearned every other movie this summer while scoring a 92 percent on Rotten Tomatoes — higher than nearly every Marvel movie. And one of the keys, as Nelson and her execs saw it, was the fact that it more or less told the viewer to ignore the rest of the universe and just focus on what was in front of them. There was a tiny nod to Batman v Superman, but that was it. “The movie’s not about another movie,” says Johns. “Some of the movies do connect the characters together, like Justice League. But, like with Aquaman” — one of their next efforts, out in 2018 — “our goal is not to connect Aquaman to every movie.” As Nelson puts it, “Moving forward, you’ll see the DC movie universe being a universe, but one that comes from the heart of the filmmaker who’s creating them.”
One of the centerpieces of this new, decentralized strategy is an as-yet-unnamed side label of occasional movies that are completely separate from everything else, set entirely outside the cinematic universe. Total stand-alones based on good ideas from big-name filmmakers. Movies that are just movies, not components of a larger piece of clockwork. The first one they’re talking about is a solo outing about supervillain the Joker, set to be directed and co-written by The Hangover and War Dogs alumnus Todd Phillips. Johns says they’ll be announcing the name of of this side label “soon-ish.”
They could always do a hard reboot but keep her cast as WW. Its a fictional universe. Treat a new WW in a new DC world similar to how MCU Hulk allows room for -without a complete retcon of- the previous Hulk film.If DC hard reboots the continuity, Gal Godot as Wonder Woman would confuse people. She would be a tough yet necessary loss.
I'm pretty sure the Big Bad (Steppenwolf?) in JL was saying that Darkseid was coming, and that's why he was collecting Mother Boxes or something.... right?Blessed are you not remembering.
I was a little tipsy when I watched it. But I thought he was like the World Prepper for Darkseid's arrival.
Gotham gets renewed for a 5th and Final ( :( ) seasonBetter to go out on top.
http://deadline.com/2018/05/gotham-renewed-fifth-final-season-fox-new-superhero-1202384012/ (http://deadline.com/2018/05/gotham-renewed-fifth-final-season-fox-new-superhero-1202384012/)
building of the Bat.
Gotham gets renewed for a 5th and Final ( :( ) seasonBetter to go out on top.
http://deadline.com/2018/05/gotham-renewed-fifth-final-season-fox-new-superhero-1202384012/ (http://deadline.com/2018/05/gotham-renewed-fifth-final-season-fox-new-superhero-1202384012/)
building of the Bat.
I never watched it. I wasn't interested in Back story: The Series.
How old is Bruce currently in the show?
It's actually highly entertaining, once you just accept it for what it is, and bask in it's beautifully shot cinematography.Not saying it is a bad show at all and probably quite fine. I watched a little and came to the conclusion that this is something that I neither need or want. It is it's own thing, it doesn't insist on itself, it doesn't barge in on some other continuity begging for viewers and validation.
I would change is calling it Gotham Police and ignore Bruce existence/journey as it is really uninteresting time drain. A beat cop dealing with Gotham level crazy crime is more than enough.
Isn't the Rock in this? Good chance it's then watchable?
I actually like the costume. I just wish the pointy parts on the lightning bolt were more pronounced. Looks like he's wearing a deep V.
Titans Trailer. Brace yourselves, it's dark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dIwGAYcWk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dIwGAYcWk)
It's pretty bad, but I can still see it. Could be country restricted?I found it elsewhere and **** Batman. It is beyond bad. Whose bright idea was to make this?
It's pretty bad, but I can still see it. Could be country restricted?I found it elsewhere and **** Batman. It is beyond bad. Whose bright idea was to make this?
Trying to go after the Marvel Netflix shows, just taking it a step further.Why in the **** would you do that when it's the Marvel TV shows that are in trouble. DC has a perfectly good series of TV shows and animation that isn't tied to the boat anchor that is DCCU. **** Batman.
I wonder how they're feeling about the generally negative reaction about the trailer?
but Aquaman looks horrible.
His origin is boooooring, though. Some kid falls in a cave and is given powers by an old wizard. The powers even come with the costume and enough brains to know to use them.
Only relation I pick up between BP and Aquaman is bad CGI.OH SNAP!
Only relation I pick up between BP and Aquaman is bad CGI.OH SNAP!
Only relation I pick up between BP and Aquaman is bad CGI.
Only relation I pick up between BP and Aquaman is bad CGI.OH SNAP!
That's whatsheThanos said.
Henry Cavill not coming back is a shame. Sure, his movies were terrible, but I think it had more to do with the writing and directing.
Ben Affleck is also reportedly leaving. I still haven't seen Justice League, but I liked Ben Affleck as Batman in BvS.
Henry Cavill not coming back is a shame. Sure, his movies were terrible, but I think it had more to do with the writing and directing.
Ben Affleck is also reportedly leaving. I still haven't seen Justice League, but I liked Ben Affleck as Batman in BvS.
Yeah, honestly there was only one problem in the hero casting for these movies, and that was Ezra Miller as Barry Allen. Can't speak for the Aquaman actor, because I don't think even DC knows what his character is. When the actors were allowed to be their characters, they were all fine.
Now, Jesse Eisenberg on the other hand...ugh...
https://au.ign.com/articles/2018/09/12/superman-michael-b-jordan-reportedly-being-considered-to-replace-henry-cavill
ooooooooooooooooook
Bruce Wang.
Bruce Wang.
They've actually decided to edit it out. There's now conveniently placed shadow over his nether regions because the brass decided that his little fella's inclusion 'added nothing of value or substance to the tale'.
That Joker look doesn't look much different from Ledger's take.
I am quite sick of Batman and Joker. Pick something else you hacks. You have a massive collections of villains and heroes, do something mildly creative. Pick Space Cabbie or Booster Gold can't hurt given the track record. Picking Space Cabbie can give you a bunch of wild shenanigans as one hero or another takes a ride.
Justice League Action playing Batman as a joke is good. Then there is the Joker episode where he is doing standup for Mongul with really, really bad jokes. Firestrom is unbelievably irritating with his incessant catch phrase(Don't drink game) but Booster Gold episodes are good. If you want your DC hit just watch any of the animated stuff.
Then, they made him into Joker Lite.
...one of the many reasons.
Although it did begin to be slightly enjoyable towards the end.
But, yeah, they were all "We're not going to just tell Batman vs. Joker stories. We're going to dig deep into Batman's history and use characters that have never seen animation before!", then, they dig up Anarchy - an interesting idea and (and not to get political) a character who could really have had some interesting stories lines.
Then, they made him into Joker Lite.
Why would prison officials let Harley Quinn keep her hat/mask?
Guess Who!!!?
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--i9RURyB0--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/zpl38ub1ei3cm81jo9jl.png)
Hint: The Main Man is coming to Krypton
Oh. I saw that photo earlier today & legitimately thought it was a Battlefield Earth Turl costume. -_-
Why would prison officials let Harley Quinn keep her hat/mask?
The new trailer actually makes the movie look pretty interesting and fun.
Looks like DC may have another Wonder Woman situation here... not imagine if they took the time to establish all these character before letting Zach Snyder ruin them?
That BatWoman Costume is actually pretty good.
That BatWoman Costume is actually pretty good. I like it a lot. The Red in the cape and the length of the cape work. The Utility Belt looks a little small unfortunately. I think this is a problem with many Batman costumes. You either have to go super high tech with the gadgets or have a realistically sized Utility Belt.
The new trailer actually makes the movie look pretty interesting and fun.
Looks like DC may have another Wonder Woman situation here... not imagine if they took the time to establish all these character before letting Zach Snyder ruin them?
I actually still believe going straight to a Justice League movie first wouldn't have been a problem IF they decided to make the Justice League right and get the characters done right. I think it would have been perfectly fine to establish a movie where a world threat brings all the heroes in the DC world together...and they already kinda knew each other existed but this brought them together. Then with an established world creating stories and series that brought the world to that place in time could be interesting.
But the real problem about the DC characters is they are tonally wrong. The DC universe more than Marvel is about archetypes. Each character has a theme and represents something. The DC movies for example said Superman represents hope, but didn't show him being hopeful or inspiring hope. This is just bad design.
The first pic is of BANE, you guys guessed that right.
But, what DC TV Show/Movie is it from?
As for Elseworlds.... I don't know what that is, looks like a reality swap situation?
they should have had them beard swap too though. It can't take Ollie more than week to grow that back.
p.s. the new Flash costume looks pretty bad....
https://i.redd.it/6r4ktv3kktt11.jpg
and an Elseworlds spoiler as well, because why not. I wasn't gonna watch anyway.
https://i.redd.it/69acmh8o4tt11.jpg
actual spoiler
https://i.redd.it/ymny7d0x2vt11.jpg
Oohhboy's Robin comment just reminded me that there is some Titans show that's supposed to be coming soon to DC's streaming service so I'm going to go with that.
I want that Batman TAS collection - the bad part is that the Funko Pop figures that come with it basically cheapen the entire thing. First, those are the lowest form of memorabilia, and second they are totally generic and have nothing to do with the show.
WTH, the originals didn't look remotely that bad. Did they use VHS as the comparison?
Not to say it doesn't look better which it does. The original hand drawn animation is so good the clean up makes it better losing none of the charm.
I pulled up the same scenes from the files I have which look nowhere near as bad. You would call the look old school not VHS quality. DVD even when blown up you're not going to get that kind of result, the artefacts are wrong.
There is some sort of shenanigans happening.
Black Mask is lesser known?
He was in two different animated series, a couple of the animated movies, on Gotham, and in many video games, including a featured role in the Arkham games.
DC working on Plastic Man movie
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/plastic-man-movie-works-at-warner-bros-1167236?utm_source=twitter
Isn't 'Idris Elba play xyz' just a meme at this point? I can't for the life of me remember watching a single movie with him in it.
That's the only Star Trek movie I've ever seen...and will ever see.
The premise comes out of nowhere, you got weird or pointless stuff.
I think Shazam will be a bad movie, but it will be fun.
And I thought Shazam looked a lot better than expected.His origin is boooooring, though. Some kid falls in a cave and is given powers by an old wizard. The powers even come with the costume and enough brains to know to use them.
So much for the "Wisdom of Solomon", lol.
Meh. Filed under yet another origin story. They Joker is great and all but do we really need him to show up again?
Speaking of teaser's, they need to change the name. Didn't teasers used to short little snippets that showed very little? A teaser seems more like a full trailer nowadays. And the full trailer often spoils the plot of the movie!
I don't know why you are trying to pre-emptively excuse this movie and the core reasons for meh. DC has the richest villain/hero stable outside of Marvel and they insist again on going back to the same well so quickly. Being a "Hamlet" is an excuse for laziness, doubly so with another origin story. It's stale right out of the gate.
You have essentially gave up on originality with your line of reasoning with "There is really only a few character archetypes anyway". You're accepting mediocrity.
I would feel the same if it was Superman or Batman. Any C lister is far more interesting right now. It would have very different restrictions and opportunities for originality. If one was to insist on this plot line would be perfect for someone like the DCAU Clock King, Temple Fugate. First 2 minutes sets him up much like Dredd did. The rest of the running time is him absolutely wreaking everyone including 2-3 C-listers who have to come together to stop him preferably not by punching the problem. Bam, you have a list of characters to make cheaper movies from with far less baggage and more forgiving comic feel. If one is a breakout hit then you have just rolled another A/B list proposition.
I highly recommend Falling Down (1993) instead watching this tired Joker movie.
I'm not too terribly familiar with Hush, Blackmask, or Firefly.
Have you seen Aquaman?
they had giant Lobster people iirc, so this shouldn't be far a stretch.
gotta embrace the comicbookiness of it all.
its the only way you'll make it all work together
Batwoman Trailer
https://youtu.be/6s1Gld-LHew
I was considering watching this, I liked her in the last crossover. But it seems that CW have gone straight for the political point making. I have no issue at all that she's a woman, I have an issue with producers shoving it in my face. I can see she's a girl, and it's in the title. I don't need to have lines like:
"... perfection"
"It will be, when it fits a woman"
thrown at me. I don't see any decent reason that line in its current form needs to exist. If they insist on including such a line they could have change it slightly to something like:
"It will be, when it fits me!"
Far less on the nose. If Supergirl is anything to go by (which it likely will be since it's run by the same team) then they are going to be pushing hard on the whole woman thing. I want to sit and enjoy a silly show, not be preached at by some random person in a studio with an agenda.
Batwoman Trailer
https://youtu.be/6s1Gld-LHew
I was considering watching this, I liked her in the last crossover. But it seems that CW have gone straight for the political point making. I have no issue at all that she's a woman, I have an issue with producers shoving it in my face. I can see she's a girl, and it's in the title. I don't need to have lines like:
"... perfection"
"It will be, when it fits a woman"
thrown at me. I don't see any decent reason that line in its current form needs to exist. If they insist on including such a line they could have change it slightly to something like:
"It will be, when it fits me!"
Far less on the nose. If Supergirl is anything to go by (which it likely will be since it's run by the same team) then they are going to be pushing hard on the whole woman thing. I want to sit and enjoy a silly show, not be preached at by some random person in a studio with an agenda.
I really hate to defend this creative team, but do you remember the original Supergirl trailer they put out?
This team doesn't make good trailers, and this trailer was HEAVY on the "girl power", too. Yet the 1st season really wasn't as obnoxiously anti-men as the trailer made it out to be. In fact, several lines got edited out of context to MAKE them that way.
I don't want to defend the Supergirl team any further because Season 2 DID go heavily political (and that's why I stopped watching it), but this could also just be a case of a trailer cutting footage out of context to "make a statement."
I'm not going to watch it either way because I'm really behind on the Arrowverse shows and am kind of done with that universe in general for a while, but just sayin'.
Yeah, I love they are continuing to support the "Arrowverse", but I've fallen so far behind on all the shows that any effort to catch up is exhausting. Do hope they don't kick Batman while he is down. Makes me wonder why he disappeared.
Not digging the makeup. Joker needs to have “Damaged” tattooed on his forehead to really bring it all together.
Adrock that is given by Batman after he stops him the first time.
Then, Superman gets mad at Batman for branding criminals. And they fight. But then it gets better because their moms have the same name. Also, Wonder woman was there THE WHOLE TIME. Surprise!
Superman dies after that. :(
But then he gets better through the power of friendship! :)
Not digging the makeup. Joker needs to have “Damaged” tattooed on his forehead to really bring it all together.Adrock that is given by Batman after he stops him the first time.Then, Superman gets mad at Batman for branding criminals. And they fight. But then it gets better because their moms have the same name. Also, Wonder woman was there THE WHOLE TIME. Surprise!Superman dies after that. :(
But then he gets better through the power of friendship! :)
OMG this story sounds magical. I need to know what happens next!!!
Birds of Prey anyone?Why not. JLU Bringing in Hunteress and the Question story line is one of the best. The battle royal with Vixen, Black Canary, Wonder Women, Hawkgirl and Hunteress was epic. What a shame about the lack of Amy Acker. She is perfect and has some action chops from PoI. Still crushing it at 42. However I don't care for the DC movies. Oh well.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/birds_of_prey/birds-of-prey-teaser-trailer-images-leak-online-feature-black-mask-huntress-and-more-a170327
I really don't remember where I left off on each show....
Arrow.... end of S4? it's now on what? S7?
Flash.... beginning of S3? it on S5 now?
Time Travelers..... middle of S2? now also on S5?
Supergirl.... early S3? now on S4?
I feel like I'm missing one.....
Has Batgirl/woman started?
Is there any intent to cross this over with DCU shows, like Titans and Doom Patrol as well?
this is gonna be either the most EPIC thing ever on television, or just a HUGE clusterfuck shitshow thats a giant waste of a great idea and a grand opportunity. there's no room for anything inbetween. :P
Apparently Brandon Routh as "Kingdom Come Superman"
Kevin Conroy as "Bruce Wayne from the future" (voice of Batman from TAS)
and Black Lightning
all join the CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover
https://nordic.ign.com/batwoman/27815/news/crisis-on-infinite-earths-arrowverse-crossover-casts-kevin-conroy-as-bruce-wayne
please don't make me play catch up on Arrowverse.... I have fallen way to far behind to even begin to remember where to start.
I just might catch this 5 part series though. Sounds like it could be kinda interesting.
it was stated almost 3 months ago when Routh was announced. but it's understandable to not remember those details from months ago.Apparently Brandon Routh as "Kingdom Come Superman"
Kevin Conroy as "Bruce Wayne from the future" (voice of Batman from TAS)
and Black Lightning
all join the CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover
https://nordic.ign.com/batwoman/27815/news/crisis-on-infinite-earths-arrowverse-crossover-casts-kevin-conroy-as-bruce-wayne
please don't make me play catch up on Arrowverse.... I have fallen way to far behind to even begin to remember where to start.
I just might catch this 5 part series though. Sounds like it could be kinda interesting.
p.s. I have yet to do any sort of catching up on Arrowverse in preparation for this massive CW event crossover.
I at least wanted to be familiar with where all the characters are up to this point.
I'll probably just go in blind though.
It looks decent! I like the bright colors of her armor. They kept my biggest concern (Cheetah) out of the trailer though, so that makes me nervous.Give the trailer another watch. The gal that was talking with Diana is another form of Cheetah. Before her full on makeup
Looks good.I totally understand this sort of thing can be a tired trope but I think there may be more to it than her prettying herself up a bit. Maybe she is giving into what she wants and she is being influenced somehow.
Only (mild) criticism so far: Not sure why Hollywood won’t stop doing the ugly-pretty-girl. While not as egregious as Zendaya in the MCU Spider-Man movies, still just as unnecessary.
I know Kristen Wiig is Cheetah, but she isn't dressed as Cheetah and she ain't doing Cheetah things.Well that would give away the main fights now wouldn't it?
Maybe excited about WW84? I don't know if Gal Gadot is a decent actress generally, but she seems like a fantastic lead for a superhero movie and the first Wonder Woman movie was the only DC extended universe flick that I'd be willing to watch again.Wonder Woman has lots of silly things but I think if it is explained in the film it should work. Speaking of silly things. I wonder if some of the instances of Diana lassoing things in the air is her Invisible Jet in some of the shots. It would explain some things.
Still, it's hard to have faith giving how bad the other DC movies have been. And that spoiler BnM covered earlier didn't look promising in the trailer... is that a real thing in DC canon? I mean, somehow I could accept lightning from the gods, but this looked pretty silly.
What was the surprise cameo?
Also, I am still curious about it. Is it remotely possible to watch it and understand without watching any of the shows?
In fact in order to save your sanity I would recommend against it.
In fact in order to save your sanity I would recommend against it.
I can agree with this. If you are going to watch one of the shows I recommend Legends of Tomorrow. It's a fun adventure show with a ship full of Losers/C-List heroes that doesn't take itself seriously at all. There is a Unicorn that eats hearts, so yeah not serious. Then there is Rip, he is brilliant asshole, Duvuel carries the show until it can stand on it's own.
A warning I do give is the supporting character of the first 2 seasons are "Please go away". It still suffers from "TV" fighting where somehow it's hand to hand despite guns and there is a bit of shoehorning. It bad enough that at times I rather not have a fight at all, less can be more.
I'm watching Part 5 of Crisis now and the best lines of the entire crossover are, unsurprisingly, in the Legends ep.
All the other ones think they are some kind of hard core insightful analytical commentary on society. I think this is my biggest gripe with them. If I'm watching a superhero show (especially one from CW for goodness sake) I don't want to be preached at. I want to switch my brain off and watch superhero nonsense happen.
I've never watched (and never will watch) Black Lightning
I finally watched Joker.
Damn, this was a great movie.
People who were complaining about the "message" of this movie missed the point.
Do recommend. Best DC movie in a long time.
I've been checking out DC Universe. That Harley Quinn cartoon is heinous trash.
Birds of Prey appears to have under-performed. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/arts/birds-of-prey-box-office.html)
Birds of Prey appears to have under-performed. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/arts/birds-of-prey-box-office.html)
Good. It looked like crap.
I've been checking out DC Universe. That Harley Quinn cartoon is heinous trash.
Another Oohhboy argument in 3, 2, 1.....
Birds of Prey appears to have under-performed. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/arts/birds-of-prey-box-office.html)
Good. It looked like crap.
Good why? I don't judge things until I've got more than just a trailer. The general consensus has the movie squarely as a B rating. But I also can't go by that either. I have to actually watch it. The only reason I haven't watched it is I'm not that fond of going to the theater anymore. I have a free voucher and some gift cards, but it's a lot of trouble to go get a ticket when I can watch something else on VOD.
As to the reviews on Meta Critic has anyone read the reviews for them. This is review bombing in progress since it doesn't align with what they wanted it to be instead of judging it for what it is.
This would only be true if this was an original film. Being a Harley Quinn movie it has expectations. Joker and The Harley Quinn cartoon managed to meet them and thus rewarded. Doesn't help it has the stink of Suicide Squad and having them be the Birds of Prey is a real ass backwards head scratcher. The Huntress working with her like what??I guess I get to spoil movies now, thanks... All the characters in the movie have their own things going on and have their own motivations. Huntress had all of her family get killed at the start of the movie over their family diamond which had the location of their riches within the diamond but her mother passed it onto her and one of the henchman spared Huntress live and she trained to get revenge on that crime family. Montoya is a smart and hardworking captain but everyone in the department doesn't respect her for all she does and even takes credit for things she does as their own accomplishments. She is right most of the time on her hunches and in the movie she tries to track down who has the diamond which Cassandra Cain does. Cassandra Cain is a young girl who has parents fighting all the time and she is a pick pocket who always gets caught who after taking the diamond and swallows it everyone is after her for the diamond. Wanting to cut open her stomach or getting the diamond out through less harsh means. Black Canary is an undercover informant and singer at Black Mask's club who has to become Black Mask's driver after Harley did a number on the former drivers legs when she was acting like she ran the place because of the immunity she had from being Joker's girlfriend. All of their stories merge into the 3rd act when they all get to the amusement park for their own reasons. It isn't till Black Mask and all of his men show up for pretty much everyone of our heroines/anti heroines and they have no choice but to work together to make it out alive. Thanks oohhboy for making me spoil the movie to explain why things are going the way they are in the movie.
The lack of Poison Ivy is a death blow for fans of HQ's "Emancipation". The creators had no idea where they were going understanding only the most shallow aspects of HQ's deep mental issues.I guess I get to spoil more of the movie.... In the animated intro Harley mentions that on top of Mr. J kicking her to the curb. Harley mentions a female partner which didn't work out. Most likely Ivy.
I swear everyone needs to see if so I am not argueing points which are layed out in the movie.
Just watch the cartoon show which is actually good.
And here I thought the news in this thread would be about Ruby Rose jumping ship from Batwoman already. The TV shows are starting to catch up to the movies in development issues!
Well, he has the benefit of a fairly good budget of $20M to do SFX and editing work, and the opinions of the #releasethesnydercut fanbois to navigate what to fix and what to flesh out.
I don't assume there will be any additional footage shot, but $10M sounds like sooooo much to just assemble footage from a movie already shot and then add CG effects to it. Entire movies with heavy CG effects have been shot from scratch for less, and this one has already been filmed.... only needs the CG effects.
I of course will not be queuing up to watch this, but if it's free to stream one day, and nothing better is on, I might give it a watch.
Are rating the reason Ruby Rose jumped ship though?
According to multiple sources, Rose was unhappy with the long hours required of her as the series lead, which led to friction on the set. It was thus decided by her and the network and studio, Warner Bros. Television, that they would part ways.
I read Ruby Rose was almost paralyzed after a botched stunt. Many suspect that had something to do with her departure from the show. I probably would peace out after that.
It was speculated that it had something to do with pain associated with an emergency surgery Rose underwent for two herniated discs, but a source familiar with the situation tells Variety that Rose’s decision “had nothing to do with her health or injury.”
Oh boy, here we go...Justice League Dark: Apokolips War.
Watch out for the nerd rage!
Didn’t Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice have a dream sequence within or immediately after another dream sequence? I haven’t seen it in a while. I have doubts Warner Bros. knows or cares what’s confusing to the audience.
I don't understand why WB/DC/AT&T/Media Conglomerate #2 would want to build multiple shared universes out of their DC film properties. Seems like it'd get confusing.
We should really break this paradigm. Maybe there should be many creative people working on their own versions at the same time. Parallel production. The way things were going was really slow. And I also met people who got confused with the different Spider-man movies. So, that doesn't matter anyhow. There will still be people too dimwitted to stay on page no matter what. There shouldn't be a King of Batman Director. Russia and America can exist at the same time. We shouldn't prop up a king just for the fools.
We should really break this paradigm. Maybe there should be many creative people working on their own versions at the same time. Parallel production. The way things were going was really slow. And I also met people who got confused with the different Spider-man movies. So, that doesn't matter anyhow. There will still be people too dimwitted to stay on page no matter what. There shouldn't be a King of Batman Director. Russia and America can exist at the same time. We shouldn't prop up a king just for the fools.
If people were already confused with Spider-Man movies where the explanation is "That continuity is over, this is a new one" then running multiple continuities surrounding simultaneously will be even more confusing. Imagine the sequel to a movie happening after two movies in another continuity came out. People would be scratching their heads trying to follow it.
I'm fine with DC doing out of continuity one-offs, especially if they do them with novel characters like The Joker. But I don't see the point in spinning a one-off film into a TV series.
Watch out for the nerd rage!
Watch out for the nerd rage!
It appears no one cared.
Watch out for the nerd rage!
In the BLM Age, in sure it'll be kept at a minimum..... Publicly.
It's such a weird thing for Warner Bros to just change the plotlines of movies after they're basically done filming. I really want to see the Ayer cut.
I haven't seen the theatrical cut of Justice League, but I didn't like Man of Steel. So I'm not exactly holding my breath to see this, and my only reason for wanting to is how much people have been clamoring for it. The most interesting part to me is that the cut didn't really exist. There was probably never a finished Snyder-cut to release, hence why HBO is paying for him to make it now. I wonder if all the extra time will improve or hurt it.
Well, he has the benefit of a fairly good budget of $20M to do SFX and editing work, and the opinions of the #releasethesnydercut fanbois to navigate what to fix and what to flesh out.
I don't assume there will be any additional footage shot, but $10M sounds like sooooo much to just assemble footage from a movie already shot and then add CG effects to it. Entire movies with heavy CG effects have been shot from scratch for less, and this one has already been filmed.... only needs the CG effects.
I of course will not be queuing up to watch this, but if it's free to stream one day, and nothing better is on, I might give it a watch.
He's having the cast come in for recording audio, so there's that. Also, CGI is really expensive. Good CGI can cost millions for even a few minutes of it. GOT season 6 allegedly cost $10M per episode, which was a $4M increase over the previous season. (Season 6 was the one with the actual dragons, right? I never watched it.) So, if Synder has a $20M budget, I imagine half of that is going to CGI, since I think that movie was CGI heavy already, a couple million for the actors' time, and something leftover for him to take (plus pay whoever else he has working on this).
Hmmmmm..... this one is beyond me.Michael Keaton is too old to play Terry McGinnis. No need for stunt casting. Just pick a younger, less known actor instead of the household name.
/s?Yes. (https://youtu.be/87ra6qKzXDA)
It would make for an interesting one time story. I guess you could have him go into space for a few years, get bored, come back to Earth, and tell a story of him getting reacquainted with future-Earth... And then?Wasn’t that Superman Returns? It turned out the “and then” was Superman was a dead-beat dad and the world was like perfectly fine without him. *lose horn* (https://youtu.be/9Jz1TjCphXE)
The first one, when you take it in a historical context, is pretty dang amazing.
So I finally saw Killing Joke on Netflix last night and I was kinda underwhelmed. I remember there was some stink about ways it diverged from the source but it just felt like it was missing something more from it. Hamill as the Joker was great, but it just didn't feel like it made all of its points clearly. Did I miss something obvious or is this really the extent of the comic as well?The main stink about the movie is what they did with the first half of the movie with Barbara Gordon and the whole bit with her and Batman and actually not really expanding on her character. Also the second half of the movie where the Killing Joke was supposed to take place it feels very different from the comic and not in a good way.
I don't think the overall story was bad, just boring. What I want to know is does the additional hour + flesh out the characters and make it interesting. And are the fight scenes better?
The other thing that has to be said is Joss Whedon got that movie down to 2 hours.
The real problem I had also was when Superman flew away from a battle with a villain trying to kill the world to save ONE family.
If this version of Justice League is successful enough, they should let Snyder continue it as as an HBO Max series. If he need this many hours to make something good, I think his talents would be better spent on multi episode series that would give him more time to show his vision versus theatrical movies that have a 2-2.5 hour limit.
I would also like to add that I say the above as completely separate to all the nonsense going on about him lately (although now I'm less inclined to believe it) - rather focusing on the product he created four years ago exclusively.
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was the Marvel movie that elicited my most emotional reaction. For personal reasons.
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was the Marvel movie that elicited my most emotional reaction. For personal reasons.
Daddy issues?
Because that was a heavy theme of that movie.
You don't have to go in to the personal issues, but you mentioned it, so I thought I'd respond.
Now my question is, does this drop on HBO Max on Day 1? (8/6)
The Flash has gone mostly silent.... rumors of cameos and spin-offs, but no news of how they plan to handle the problematic Real Life stories surrounding their lead actor....
(All the Black Adam stuff including Cavill quitting his job at The Witcher to be Superman for one scene only to get fired again)
Actually the Burton Schumacher anthology is actually something to look at for reboots. They kept on Alfred and Commisioner Gordon, and Robin for the second set, but the villains changed, even batman changed, and it really didn't matter. Not great movies, but the general public were a lot more capable of moving on with new casting at the time.
Yeah, looks neat, agree music is meh, but trailer music is rarely indicative of the final product. And why is BatMan a fascist? Did I miss something about that or were they trying to be funny because "LOL billionaire bad"?
Yeah, looks neat, agree music is meh, but trailer music is rarely indicative of the final product. And why is BatMan a fascist? Did I miss something about that or were they trying to be funny because "LOL billionaire bad"?
Batman was sort of made to have fascistic qualities in the Frank Miller run. He is a vigilante who enforces the law using violence. He's also a rich guy, and the villains are usually poor people. Though you would only know he's a rich guy from our omnipresent observer perspective. Though Mr. Reese figured out what Wayne Enterprises was spending its black fund on in The Dark Knight. Another thing that could be said about a rich guy enforcing Gotham law is, the law in Gotham is corrupt. Even good cops like Jim Gordan turn a blind eye to a guy in a Bat suit beating up poor people.
In the case of the Blue Beetle trailer, it was just a low blow.