Topic: Battleboverwatch FPS Thread of Doom

[Soren]

Which is the best for a shooter novice? Mind you, I'm not a newbie. I just know enough to be slightly competent at shooters.

[ShyGuy]

Isn't Overwatch more of a MOBA?

[chesron4]

Overwatch all the way.

[Louieturkey]

Isn't Overwatch more of a MOBA?

It's a team based shooter with respawns.  It's nothing like typical MOBA's like DOTA 2 and LoL.

[ShyGuy]

Maybe Battleborn was the more Moba-ish one. They all blend together.

[lolmonade]

Both of these games are closer to TF2 than MOBA

Haven't played Battleborn, but have played a bit in Overwatch beta.  Agree that it feels like TF2 taken more seriously and more playable characters, haven't played any MOBAs, so can't make a comparison there.

[elvshaunt2]

Few things you need to remember about MOBAs are:


1 - its top down isometric or anything similar to that
2 - the communities are toxic

[Wah]

What really pisses me off is people saying overwatch will replace TF2.
NO, just NO!
TF2 is free, and overwatch is what $50 buck of uninspired unmemorable chracters? no thanks. Battleborn looks promising. Borderlands characters all the way...

[ShyGuy]

First Person MOBA! hot new genre!

[Lemonade]

I played two rounds of the Overwatch demo. It seemed nice, but Im not interested in buying it.

I found out that Battleborn has a singleplayer 'story' mode of some sort. I will have to look into that some more, because if its good I might buy it.

Im the sort of person who only plays Halo for the campaign, which I really enjoy.

[Soren]

Update. I went with Overwatch because duh. I really really like it.

[lolmonade]

Update. I went with Overwatch because duh. I really really like it.

I'm interested in Overwatch, but I went with Battleborn.  Definitely not a bad game, my friends liken it to Moba meets Borderlands.  I appreciate the variety & number of characters that are playable, and despite the small user base, haven't had to wait more than a minute or two to get matched up.  So far so good.

[Soren]

I'll admit that I was very curious about Battleborn, specially now that it's being sold at a heavy discount. Ultimately though, Overwatch's character design really appealed to me and I was very concerned about how big the player base was going to be 5-6 months down the line. This summer looks to be slim with games so Overwatch will play the same role as Splatoon did last year.

And yes, I realize Splatoon has always had a small user base but it wasn't really competing with any other game in its genre.

I am interested in knowing more about how Battleborn plays though, so do tell when you get the chance.

[King Dedede]

Try both and see what you like more. Both are good...and both are TF2 ripoffs.

[Spak-Spang]

So I bought Battleborn because it has local multiplayer and Multiplayer PVE campaigns.  I really don't enjoy online PvP multiplayer, because if you are not good at the game it is just frustrating.  Everything I have heard though is that Battleborn is pretty dead right now with its online community.  Is anyone still playing this game?  I can see some of the faults in the game, but overall I really like the game's design. 

[Soren]

I approve of the mod who made that poll. Or wait, did I do it? Uhhhh

I've had a blast with Overwatch so far. I am terrible at shooters so the fact that I can play support and still feel like an active contributor and someone who can swing the battle one way or another is great. I love defending with Torbjorn's turrets and handing out armor to everyone. I love Lucio because I can heal people while I do my usual spray and pray technique. Or I can just play as Mercy and just be a pure healer. And even if I do go with an offensive character I can pick one with a low difficulty curve and still feel like I'm doing well.

[broodwars]

So I bought Battleborn because it has local multiplayer and Multiplayer PVE campaigns.  I really don't enjoy online PvP multiplayer, because if you are not good at the game it is just frustrating.  Everything I have heard though is that Battleborn is pretty dead right now with its online community.  Is anyone still playing this game?  I can see some of the faults in the game, but overall I really like the game's design.

I picked the game up on the recent PSN flash sale, and overall I like it but it has a LOT of just fundamental issues. The way the game handles matchmaking is just terrible (the game first searches for 5 people to form a team, and then it searches for other filled 5 person teams, and if anyone drops out during this process it starts all over). Matches tend to be completely one-sided, with whatever team that levels-up first completely steamrolling the other. Single player is cool, but is really best played Co-Op (whereas I feel like Borderlands plays just fine SP). The game REALLY needs a level-less Team Death match mode, though, because all the Versus modes except Capture suck).

Overall, it's idiotic that this game is even being compared to Overwatch. Both games have COMPLETELY different design philosophies and gameplay styles. However, while there are aspects to Battleborn I like more than Overwatch (like the SP content), I feel like the sum of Battleborn's parts is not as strong as Overwatch's laser-focused whole.

[Spak-Spang]

I gave up on Battleborn.  The game has many flaws.  I liked the online campaign mode, but the multiplayer was flawed, and the characters are not interesting. 

I wish Overwatch would have had splitscreen Co-Op missions, because I would have bought it then, and been very happy.

[Soren]

Lucioball...sucks. Man, it's just not good. It's slow and janky and the physics are just terrible. I appreciate the change of pace but I'd rather have a new mode where I can shoot people instead of a crappy Rocket League clone.

[lolmonade]

So, I abandoned Battleborn about a month in.  There were things I liked about the game, such as the sheer number and variety of characters to play as.  But the pvp matches veered to an absurd length of 30+ minutes unless one team steamrolled another, and the wait to find a match was garbage.  Worse than that though, you never felt like you were powerful or your weapons had any weight to them when firing.


I hopped on Overwatch (PC) about 2 weeks ago with a group of friends, and are having a much better time with that.  For anyone who is interested, the Origins Edition of Overwatch you see in retail just includes some skins and stuff on top of the base game, you can buy a base version from Blizzard for $40 regular, which made it low enough to justify a purchase to me. 


Very much like TF2, except this game is sticking with me a lot better than TF2 did.  Anyone here still playing?  I'm about to hit level 21, interested in finding groups to play with, or at least finding others I could include in my group for competitive once we get to 25.

[Spak-Spang]

Battleborn is a terrible game.  I wanted to like it.  I tried hard to like it.  i went back to it with each new character released...but the game just didn't like with me.  The controls were difficult, the characters although there was variety didn't feel that different.  The only thing it has going for it is there is a single player campaign/story campaign that you can play with a team.  Overwatch could learn something from that.

Unfortunately, the Battleborn single player missions were designed well.  it was literally run to a new location and kill a horde of enemies run to another place are repeat.  No puzzles, no strategy in shooting, nothing. 

What is worse is the Player vs. Player games have the worst community.  Teams that could win the game, will purposely hold the game longer to kill and hunt the weaker team for experience...and all the game modes encourage this type of playing. 

[Soren]

Battleborn just had a "revival event" that went ok but only lasted as long as the event happened. The game went back to being dead as it was before. Part of why it failed was because it didn't really do anything to lure in new players. No discounts on the game, not even a free weekend? Meanwhile Overwatch will let you play the game for free this weekend for the second time.

[Spak-Spang]

Soren that isn't true.  At least on the PS4 they have had multiple sales for the game.  I picked up the game when it was like 30% off, and then a few months later it was 40% off. 


The game is a bunch of good ideas that fall very, very flat.  The game just isn't fun.  And each time the have a revival event and new game modes created, people play and are reminded that they don't like the game.  I tried to log on to play online and nobody is playing it. 

[Soren]

True, the game has had multiple price-drops and sales. And even then it failed to grab an audience. If you're doing your last ditch event to bring in more players, you might as well go all out an either offer an even bigger sale or just let people enjoy it for free for the weekend.

[lolmonade]

I'm definitely all-in on Overwatch.  The game is just a fun team fortress-esque game with a lot of variety in the different characters. 


Even better, their recent update added several different variant game modes that add much needed variety to the game.  Hopefully they keep adding incremental updates over time like this.

[Soren]

I've logged well over 150 hours on Overwatch. Up until a few weeks ago I had yet to start playing characters like Genji and McCree. I honestly feel like I can keep playing this well into the new year. I kinda want to play it on PC as well.

[lolmonade]

I've logged well over 150 hours on Overwatch. Up until a few weeks ago I had yet to start playing characters like Genji and McCree. I honestly feel like I can keep playing this well into the new year. I kinda want to play it on PC as well.

I just can't get consistent enough with Genji or McCree to feel like I'm adding value to the team.  I've been gravitating towards bastion on defense rounds, Pharah or Solider 76 on attack rounds, and Reinhardt or Mercy if we're missing tanks and heals.  My best games have been with Bastion or Mercy, though.


Let me know if you ever make the switch to PC.  I've got a group of friends I roll with, never hurts to have another person to team up with.

[lolmonade]

I've ran about 15 rounds or so in season 3 of competitive, man, that stuff is intense.


Each team gets a turn to attack and defend a point, and the attacking team gets points depending on how far in the map they get.  If it's tied, there's a tiebreaker round with a shorter time limit to determine winner.  If points are still tied after the tiebreaker round, it ends in a draw. 


You cannot make progress without working as a coordinated group, even in a pick-up-group.  I've been primarily playing mercy, both because I think I'm most effective as healer currently, and most people seem to prefer tanking or DPS.


the end of map choke points get ridiculously frantic and crowded as you try and push the payload to the last goal.


It's almost a grind, but so satisfying when you end up with a win (or even a draw, if it was hard fought).

[lolmonade]

Update - I've continued to play competitive with a few of my friends as they've been online.  I've gotten to the point where I've exclusively ran as Mercy, because I've pigeonholed myself in competitive to only be useful as her, coupled with the fact that barely anyone ever voluntarily chooses a support role like healing that's needed to have a good team composition.  My win/loss record is about split, but I'm finding my ranking is trending lower as I play rounds in competitive.


Quick play is the good place to try out different characters and get good at one, but unfortunately it seems like people take those a little too seriously, too.  Getting angry if people don't follow the metagame and choose the "perfect" team composition.  Cmon people, I just want ot see if I can find a way to enjoy playing as Tornbjorn or Zarya without consequence. 


Finally, the winter event has a fun little side game where everyone plays as Mei (ice power character) in a 6v6 snowball fight.  Fun for a few rounds, at least.

[Soren]

Season 3 is pretty much over for me. Went from Gold 2100 SR to Platinum 2700 SR season high. Final SR will be 2595. Most of it was playing Mercy, but after a while I began running more Zenyatta, Ana and Lucio into the mix. I'm pretty much a support main on competitive, which is totally fine by me, as I suck at Tanks and can't really do much DPS. I've been slowly weaning myself off Mercy and choosing Ana more often. In part because of the Tank meta but also because after a certain level Mercy's Rez ultimate just doesn't have the same impact and you'd rather have Ana's nano boost and her ability to anti-heal opposing characters. She does require more skill than Mercy, but it's a challenge I'm welcoming with open arms. I actually can't wait to give Season 4 a run because I feel I can improve more.

[lolmonade]

Season 3 is pretty much over for me. Went from Gold 2100 SR to Platinum 2700 SR season high. Final SR will be 2595. Most of it was playing Mercy, but after a while I began running more Zenyatta, Ana and Lucio into the mix. I'm pretty much a support main on competitive, which is totally fine by me, as I suck at Tanks and can't really do much DPS. I've been slowly weaning myself off Mercy and choosing Ana more often. In part because of the Tank meta but also because after a certain level Mercy's Rez ultimate just doesn't have the same impact and you'd rather have Ana's nano boost and her ability to anti-heal opposing characters. She does require more skill than Mercy, but it's a challenge I'm welcoming with open arms. I actually can't wait to give Season 4 a run because I feel I can improve more.

Wow.  I went in the opposite direction, starting at about 1700 and ending at about 1500.  I get the sneaking suspicion that if you fall lower in rank, it gets pretty damn hard to rise back up in rank, especially if you're using PUGs to get matches, because you'll be matched with other people who aren't going to be quite as organized as a group of dedicated people.


I'm a Mercy main, and can agree with you that the Resurrect is really only valuable in comp for either extending point battles you know you can win if you resurrect the 2-3 people who are dead on the field or if you have a tank down and know your team can keep a good wall up from the other team if you pop them.  Resurrecting as a move of desperation usually just results in those people dying twice.  That said, in matches where things are running smoothly, I'm usually getting my resurrect ultimate so often that I'll be pretty liberal with it.


For Comp, I don't feel very good about many other characters to play as, just because I know as Mercy I'll get a dependable output of heals.  I feel comfortable rotating with Lucio, Rein, Dva (less so after the nerf) in quick play, or I'll switch to those if the need arises in comp.  I have not found a good DPS or defense character that I can be reliable with, although I've had a few good rounds with Bastion (which is usually pretty easy for a team to counter).

[Soren]

Finished my season 4 placement matches, got low 2300s, already back up to low 2400s. Going full support main this time and trying to have equal playing time with Ana, Lucio, Zenyatta and the now Bastion pocket healer Mercy. There's plenty of interesting play going on in the comp meta but with the Bastion changes and the incoming Orisa things are going to be in flux this season.

[lolmonade]

My placement for S4 started me in the 1400 range, even though I won 7/10 matches.  Guess I don't quite understand how the placement works. 


That said, I've worked my way up to mid-1600/silver range, mostly playing as either Mercy or Rein.  I've gotten to the point where I'm pretty much non-viable as DPS after spending so much time between tanks/healers and other players really refusing to switch from their preferred DPS.  I know it's hard to fix this problem, but the toxic players are really the worst part of this game.  People who refuse to play another character for the sake of team balance, talking trash, blaming everyone else even when they exhibit the above traits. 


One of my friends who has in the past would main Rein has switched almost exclusively to Junkrat, to the point where he wont even switch to Tank if there's a need in the team.  It's that kind of inflexibility of people I end up playing with that's somewhat killing the game for me.

[Soren]

Your previous SR and hidden Matchmaker Ranking have way more influence than what you do in your placements. Placements are basically meaningless which is why some people are lobbying for a hard reset of SR or MMR. If you make a new account your MMR and SR have a chance to be better because you're mechanically better at the game now than when you started, but your current SR and MMR takes into account when you started at the game and sucked at it.


I wouldn't go as far as doing a hard reset, but I do think there needs to be some level of reset between seasons otherwise what's the point of seasons? Also these constant patches, balances changes and the addition of new heroes in the middle of a season does nothing for consistency. Toxicity exists on all skill levels in competitive and I think Blizz needs harsher penalties for leavers and toxic players.

[lolmonade]

It'd be great if there'd be a one-time hard reset for a future season, I get the feeling I'll be stuck in the lower/mid tier perpetually unless something like that happens, as there's no way I'm buying a separate copy of the game just for the opportunity of a hard reset.


They should definitely be doing a balancing freeze until off-season for competitive, as well.  I think they're definitely learning as they go on this, considering they delayed allowing Orisa in comp for the first week of the season, but I think more can be done on this, and given the way the game's evolving, I expect them to continue taking some of this in the right direction. 


I do wonder if they add-in a "report" option so that perpetual negative people would be flagged in certain modes as being uncooperative.  I do find it funny they already try to discourage bad communication in the text section. 


Regardless, Overwatch will be in rotation for some time for me, but it's gone from a "several matches a week" to "a couple a week" game.

[Soren]

I still play it once every 2-3 days for a few hours. The game is fun and I feel like I haven't reached my peak but man, people's unwillingness to communicate can be such a pain. I dropped nearly 200 SR last night after a string of terrible matches and uncooperative teammates.


EDIT: https://www.overbuff.com/players/psn/fotoeme?mode=competitive


1-7 last night and my SR dropped like a rock because of losing streaks. Streak gain/loss should never be a thing.

[lolmonade]

Oh, I still have plenty of fun with the game, I've just have a lot of good single player games on my plate right now, too.  it's also good for the sake of my blood pressure for me to take intermittent breaks of the game, especially after I suffer an awful losing streak.


It's pretty clear to me you're rolling the dice with any PUG.  Only way IMO to have a consistent win/loss ratio in this game is if you have dedicated group of players you know are reliable, which is tough to obtain.

[Soren]

Solo Queue is a beast, but six-stacking is also pretty messed up. This video actually does a pretty good job of explaining just what makes this matchmaking so broken.

Best thing to do would be to Duo with someone you trust (and is near your skill range) but I've yet to find a person I trust enough for that.

[lolmonade]

Had a good 5 matches last night.  Went 3-1-1, the loss was mostly attributable to a team that was just dominating all around (must have been a coordinated group), the tie from a team that didn't know how to push the point to save their life, but played good defense.  My rank is now at 1726, I think.


Let me know if you're ever interested in matching up for a few rounds sometime.  I main Mercy, but think i'm also a competent Rein or D.va

[Soren]

You play PC right? For now I'm stuck in PS4 limbo but I really want to make the Switch(ha!) to PC. I like this game so much I actually want to get good at it, even if I'm just a support main.


Played with a 6-stack that was mostly silver/bronze. Man, it was rough. Very little coordination, even with us being pretty good friends. Had to totally leave support and play either a heavy DPS Zenyatta or Pharah and I was unprepared to be the carry of the team. Managed to make up a bit of the lost SR after the group disbanded. I'm trying to just be chill about my rank and not worry too much about it. I just want to get good on as many heroes as possible and at least I got a little practice on Pharah and felt good about myself when I managed to win points almost by myself.

[lolmonade]

Ah yeah, I'm on PC.  This game is becoming such a struggle on PC, as it seems like fewer & fewer people are using mics to communicate.  A lot of bad matches with no one coordinating or focusing on moving the payload, instead running off to get onesie-twosie kills.  One of two of the matches I played, I started as mercy, then switched to Rein when it was clear no-one else was getting anything done, and got up to gold kills at under 5 kills for the team within a couple mins. 


Had several bad matches, so back in the 1600s.  Didn't have my greatest runs myself, but it's tough getting much healing done when your whole team is spread across the map, hence giving up halfway through and trying to brute force the point (did force a tie one game ,so that was nice).

[lolmonade]

Finally edged myself up to slightly above 2,000 and obtained a gold Rating.  More or less had to give up on DPS and playing exclusively Mercy, as healer class is apparently a job no-one wants to do.


I'm finding it's helping a lot to call-out DPS to do the task they're supposed to.  Had to ask a DPS twice in two separate matches last night to switch to Solider 76 in order for them to counter a Pharah that makes it impossibly hard to stay alive as a Mercy to heal.  Direct Tanks to not overextend themselves after we've gotten the point or are moving the payload, ask for protection.  If I'm not vocal about it, they seem to assume i'm getting picked-off as pure carelessness.

[Soren]

I'm tantalizingly close to 3000 and diamond rank. Sitting at 2860 with a 2888 as my career high. Even at this rank basic things like "we need 2 support characters" and "situational awareness" are still not present in most teams.


My only bright spot this season has been my Mercy play. I've had a few good moments with Lucio, Zenyatta and Symmetra but it's hard to be consistent with those character when no one wants to go support and you're forced into either Mercy or Ana. My Ana play has not been good at all though I did have a good game last night. After getting picked on by a crazy good Tracer I switched from Mercy to Ana and we go the final two victories on Ilios. This while one guy on my team was constantly harassing me to switch back to Mercy even though the reason we won was that I was alive long enough to keep everyone healed so they could win fights.


I've bought a PC and I expect to have it in time for Season 5. I'll divide my time between PS4 and PC so maybe we can get some games in together lolmonade!

[lolmonade]

If you end up playing some PC overwatch, then cool deal, let me know..  I've got a group of friends, we all play fairly often, if relatively casually.

[lolmonade]

Fun Fact that I just learned today - If your rank is 1,000 different than someone you group up with, they won't let you queue up together in Competitive. 


Guess it makes sense, but I have a friend who is in the 1200 rank range (He's pretty good at Lucio/Zarya/Junkrat - he must have ran into some bad solo queue matches in our absence) who is not able to join-up with a friend of ours anymore that is in the 2300 range.  Kinda sucks this differential is gonna break-up our most common group of players. 


I've made it back up to 1850 after getting placed around 1500 in the placement matches.  I suspect I can get back to Gold ok, but I might end up just straddling where I'm at so I can play with both of them at some point.

[Soren]

I can understand Blizz wanting to keep players in different tiers from grouping up. I've never really found people near my skill range with the time to duo queue so I've had to keep it solo throughout. But from my experience games in low gold feel a lot more chaotic than games in platinum.

I got placed at 2500 on PS4 after finishing the season at 2968 and I was gutted. I've managed to climb back up to 2750 but that big spike in placements has me in a sour mood.


I'm going to use the double XP weekend to finally get to level 25 so I can do placements on PC.

[lolmonade]

Woof, matches last night.  Got up to 1997, then bumped back down to 1925 after some rough matches. 


Who picks torborn on a capture map and then just stands there off-point when your only healer is the last person holding the point?!?!

[Soren]

Match quality this season has been in the toilet. Played a few comp games and heard crickets all night. No one wanted to go on team chat. We got rolled several times. Other times we barely won. Summer vacation is here!

[lolmonade]

I can't tell if match quality is worse or if I'm just experienced enough to see a lot of the bad decisions.  I feel like many of my wins this season have been attributed more to the opposing team being shittier than mine, rather than my teams being good.  Main one that sticks out from last night - I was the only healer, only had one tank throughout most of it, but we ended up steamrollling them, even despite having one of our teammates lose connection and be out of the match for 2 minutes.  I had something like 51% of team damage healed when I usually average 30-35%.


I got back up to 1991, then slipped down to 1949.  Still on the cusp of gold, but in limbo. 

[Soren]

So I am about equal rank on both console and PC at the moment. But the quality of play on both is miles wide. Went 1-3-1 on console with just some terrible matches. Bad team comps, no strategizing, just the worst kind of matches you can imagine. I switch to PC instantly and I go 5-3 and on pretty much every game there's people talking and some strategies going on. This might be the worst time to play Overwatch on console because it looks like the children on summer vacation are starting to take over the game.

[lolmonade]

I love how this has turned into our personal Overwatch comparison thread.


Yes, the nice thing about the PC community is that generally, there's usually at least a few people on headsets for each match.  Your comments about PS4 match quality compared with what I feel is an awful experience playing the game with a controller sort of solidifies me not double dipping for a 2nd copy on PS4 or any other platform.


I've teetered off of Overwatch lately while I work on playing some of my single player games from my backlog I've been meaning to get to.  I reached gold status again for the season, but my play sessions have continued to be 1-1 or 1-2, meaning my rank is hovering in the high 1900s again. 


Ever give PTR a try?  If you download the client, you can give doomfist a run for a few matches and see how you feel about him.

[lolmonade]

What a difference happening on a good team makes. 


A friend and I started a match last night, one truly obnoxious guy yelling into the mic, purposefully dropping out and coming back into the game so he'd get unmuted, jumping around the entire map not even pretending to try and just awful griefing.


The remainder of the group buttons down, and we coordinate beautifully and somehow scrape our way to a win!  After reporting the griefer, we stay as a group and invite another guy we've made e-friends with, and run as a 6-stack for 3 matches, winning them all decisively. 


Now at 2110, career high.  Hopefully with better chance to round out a competent team now that we've made a few more friends in the mix and not having to flirt with the dangers of random grouping.


You still playing, Soren?  Send me your blizzard ID info if you'd be interested in matching up sometime.  I'm at work, so I don't have mine offhand.

[Soren]

NintendoWii#11265

I'm now 200SR higher on my PC account than my PS4, despite having 300 more hours on the console version. I can't get into any groove on the PS4 so I'm close to punting on this season (I probably already have). I am 2606 on PC so I'll most likely keep playing there from now on.

Nice to see you moving up the ranks!

[lolmonade]

Very cool, I'll send you an invitation tonight.  My name on there is lolmonade, don't remember my number offhand.


I got ****-talked on real bad in a match last night by a Pharrah playerI was teamed with.  Other than him, our team had one tank (a Rein), me (Mercy), a Lucio, Junkrat, and Mcree. 


The opposing team had a better comp, and they had a Winston and Pharrah that were laser focused on finding me and taking me out before I could do any considerable healing or obtain my ult.  I seriously was down every 30 seconds. 


Pharrah on my team quickly decided that I was garbage and felt the need to name-call me as the problem on the team.  I can generally admit when I'm having a bad round, and I was, if just by virtue of not being able to fulfill my role as healer/ressurector.  That said, I had no protection from Winston's rail gun, the pharrah on the other team was brutal with how on my case she was, and my team was spread across the entire map, so I rarely had an opportunity to fly away for an escape.  No one was talking besides me, my friend, and my Pharrah teammate.


My Pharrah was informing me I needed to do better at escaping, claiming that I should be able to zip between him in the air and my teammates (most of which weren't to be found when I attempted to find an escape) in order to dodge this stuff, and I was trash because of it. 


Just a lesson that even in the higher ranks, there's ample amount of salt and blaming rather than a team trying to adjust and cooperating for a better chance at a win.  I've become somewhat of a one-trick pony as Mercy.  I like playing as her, but just by virtue of no one usually wanting to heal, it's always a gap on the team's I'm coupled with. I'd have to devote some time to relearn a player besides her and Rein to branch out my flexibility in a team, but given an unwillingness to heal, My one-trick pony nature doesn't usually hurt a team, whereas a stubborn hanzo or reaper seems to always cause hurt feelings, especially when they aren't accomplishing much.

[lolmonade]

WEW, 2222 SR, season and all-time high. 


Last match was a doozie.  King's Row, we got steamrolled on defense.  Then we were losing miserably on offense on the first point.  We hit overtime, and I switch from Mercy to a D.va because our 2nd tank had ditched and I knew I wouldn't get to the point on time as Mercy to do anything.  I hold onto the point long enough to die, but as I was respawning, our team got the point!


Our one healer (Lucio) does a GREAT job keeping us up, and I dip and dive through the defense to pick at their Mercy and keep her from Resurrecting, and we somehow scrape getting to the end of the map. 


So we get one last round.  Hold them on defense.  Then my friend & I choose D.va and Winston for divecomp, and we pull it out in the last moments of overtime on attack for the win. 


Definitely felt like one of those "we didn't deserve to win" moments, but we got it.  Exhilarating evening of matches.

[lolmonade]

2353 SR, season and all-time high for me.


Lessons learned - the team that tilts first (devolves into fighting and stubborn incohesive character choices), is most likely to lose.


Went 3-1 last night, NONE of my teams were doing that good, but the opposing team was just WORSE, each of those matches ending in one of them throwing the match and begging for my team to report the player.

[Soren]

Sweet!

2418 on console and 2525 on PC. Went 1-4 tonight on PC so it was not a good night. If I get to a comfort level on Winston we should duo and see how it goes. I have really given up on being a try-hard this season. I've been taking these games to try different characters and seeing what happens.

Also one of my matches was with a dude named "Throwing Matches". I'll let you figure out how that went down.

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lol, at least Mr. Throwing Matches helped you level expectations. 


I'll shoot you an invite next time I'm online and see you playing.  I usually play with 1-2 of my IRL friends, so you'd probably be joining 2-3 people in that case.


friend 1 - 1800 SR rank, Mains Zarya, Junkrat, learning Symmetra, but flexible and can soldier or lucio competently.
Friend 2 - low 2000 SR rank, Mains Rein, can play a good lucio, competent mercy, an ok Junkrat.  Pretty great Rein when he's not getting too high 


Me - Mercy Main, can play an ok Lucio.  Feel pretty decent about my D.va, can do ok w/Rein as well.  My DPS ability has atrophied (because every match I've played has been starved for healers, so I insta-lock Mercy), but I can on a good match handle being Soldier 76.


We've met some people through OW that we've friended, too, so also very possible to get a 6-stack.  Whatever it takes to get a group of people who aren't negative nanceys.  No fun when people are in constant tilt.

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Yes!  Just got past the Platinum threshold.  So....since getting that threshold.....the quality of teamwork isn't THAT much better. lol