Nintendo World Report Forums

Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Bill Aurion on September 16, 2008, 12:07:18 PM

Title: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 16, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
Japanese Retailer Conference Summary

Wii + DS Game Montages (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/index.html)

Nintendo DSi

Wii First Party

Another Code: R, Gateway of Memory

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyanothercode2.jpg)

Cosmic Walker

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintycosmicwalker.jpg)

Dynamic Slash

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintydynamic.jpg)

Beautiful Ocean

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyendlessocean2.jpg)

Punch-Out

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintypunchout.jpg)

Sin & Punishment 2

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintysinpunishment2.jpg)

Spawn Smasher

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyspawn.jpg)

Tact of Magic

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintytactofmagic.jpg)

DS
Mario & Luigi 3

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyml.jpg)

3D Picross

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintypicross.jpg)

2009 Line-up

Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) Spring
Start w/ 100 Conversations! English Conversation (Nintendo) 2009
Punch-Out!! (Nintendo) 2009
Trace Memory: R, Gateway of Memory (Nintendo) 2009
Kensax (Nintendo) 2009
Cosmic Walker (Nintendo) 2009
Spawn Smasher (Nintendo) 2009
Dynamic Slash (Nintendo) 2009
Tact of Magic (Nintendo) 2009
Sin & Punishment 2 (Nintendo) 2009
Forever Blue 2: Beautiful Ocean (Nintendo) 2009
Everyone's the Star on the NHK Red-and-White Quiz Battle (Nintendo) 2009
Line Attack Heroes (Nintendo) 2009
Castlevania: Judgment (Konami) Winter 2008-2009
Dead Rising: Zombies' Sacrifice (Capcom) Winter 2008-2009
FFCC: Echoes of Time (Square-Enix) 1/29
Sonic and the Black Knight (Sega) Spring
Fragile (Bandai-Namco) Winter 2008-2009
Arcrise Fantasia (Marvelous) Winter 2008-2009
Oboro Muramasa (Marvelous) Spring
Sengoku Musou 3
New Tales of...
Monster Hunter 3

   
NOA Conference Summary
~ Sin & Punishment 2 CONFIRMED for U.S. release - 2009
~ Rhythm Heaven CONFIRMED - First half 2009

________________________________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So it appears Ninty's retailer conference could be is happening 8 days earlier than last year's...

Even though last year had some rather tasty tidbits, let's keep expectations and speculation realistic, okay?

And just as a refresher, here's all the major goodies from last year:

~~~~~~

I see a Wii Music presentation, a Pikmin 3 reveal, and another big exclusive 3rd party game (I'll go with Square-Enix) to be likely, with a smattering of smaller Wii/DS title revelations...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 16, 2008, 12:13:42 PM
Storage Solution! *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 16, 2008, 12:28:05 PM
Disaster Day of Delay
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 16, 2008, 12:29:54 PM
I was going to say that, but then I saw the date, I think it'll get a release date before that event.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
MEGATON

MIYAMOTO'S NEW IP HE PROMISED IN 2002
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Ian Sane on September 16, 2008, 02:40:17 PM
Think of what you want to see and assume it won't be there. ;)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: King of Twitch on September 16, 2008, 03:26:55 PM
Rebirth revived
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2008, 03:31:19 PM
Catroots
Riqa
Robotech: Crystal Dreams
Zelda 128
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 16, 2008, 03:47:21 PM
Hopefully now they'll finally formally announce Icarus, Pilotwings, Punch-out, and any other franchises which are collecting dust.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 16, 2008, 05:00:52 PM
a Pikmin 3 reveal

Just like at E3, m i rite?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 16, 2008, 06:04:58 PM
Well it's the only first-party Wii game that has been announced but not shown, so yeah...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Caliban on September 16, 2008, 06:34:46 PM
Rebirth revived
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 16, 2008, 06:54:28 PM
Well how about they just do it now ;)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Plugabugz on September 16, 2008, 07:10:26 PM
The american version of wii chess will include a trailer of nintendo's new IP.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Ian Sane on September 16, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
Quote
Well it's the only first-party Wii game that has been announced but not shown, so yeah...

I've never really seen it as an announced game.  To me it was similar to "the Mario and Zelda teams are working on something".  Very vague and with no details of exactly what is being made and when it will be released.  Miyamoto confirmed that they were working on Pikmin after E3 flopped with pretty much everyone who actually pays attention to it.  He noticed that people were pissed and dropped the Pikmin comment to try to put out the flames.

We're probably going to see some sort of Pikmin product at some point but it might not be Pikmin 3 and we don't know when it's going to be released.  They might not have anything to show yet.  So I wouldn't consider it "officially" announced.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2008, 07:18:29 PM
Hay guys, de Blob comes out next week.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 16, 2008, 07:23:51 PM
Quote
Well it's the only first-party Wii game that has been announced but not shown, so yeah...

I've never really seen it as an announced game.  To me it was similar to "the Mario and Zelda teams are working on something".  Very vague and with no details of exactly what is being made and when it will be released.  Miyamoto confirmed that they were working on Pikmin after E3 flopped with pretty much everyone who actually pays attention to it.  He noticed that people were pissed and dropped the Pikmin comment to try to put out the flames.

We're probably going to see some sort of Pikmin product at some point but it might not be Pikmin 3 and we don't know when it's going to be released.  They might not have anything to show yet.  So I wouldn't consider it "officially" announced.

Um, when the creator and director of the project says "We are working on it" that means THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. It may not have a press release, but what's really the difference?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Ian Sane on September 16, 2008, 07:46:53 PM
Quote
Um, when the creator and director of the project says "We are working on it" that means THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. It may not have a press release, but what's really the difference?

I think it's a huge difference.  All sorts of "announced games" that are revealed in low key interviews and such never see the light of day.  I don't think he's lying but for all we know they started on the next Pikmin only a few weeks before and it's just in the planning stages.  Maybe they'll brainstorm for a bit and then decide not to do it.  I doubt Nintendo's going to think "oh wait we mentioned it in passing once so we have to do it."  An official press release or unveiling shows that there are solid plans to release the product.

And again while they may be working on it WHEN is it supposed to come out?  Who knows?  So it doesn't make sense to assume that they're going to reveal it at their next press conference.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Spinnzilla on September 16, 2008, 08:08:01 PM
^in a recent interview miyamoto said that "the controls are working very well" or something to that matter for pikmin.

I serious doubt that it's still just in the planning stages.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Adrock on September 16, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
I'm not falling for this again.....

The only thing I'll bank on is a Captain Rainbow trailer. They'd surprise me if they announced the game is headed to America.... but then again, this is Nintendo so they'll just say that they have fun stuff in development and not be specific about anything like dicks.

Ok, well, back to my hole.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 16, 2008, 08:43:40 PM
I'm not falling for this again.....

The only thing I'll bank on is a Captain Rainbow trailer.

Considering Captain Rainbow already came out on August 28th, I wouldn't be expecting that either.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Caliban on September 16, 2008, 09:58:47 PM
Hay guys, de Blob comes out next week.

Awesome. I've had it pre-ordered for a few weeks now.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on September 16, 2008, 10:00:50 PM
This is it, the MEGATON conference of 08! Looking forward to brand new trailers of F-Zero Wii, Pikmin Thwii, a totally revamped Animal Crossing Wii that isn't crap, Donkey Kong Jungle Bwiit, New Zelda teaser, maybe a new Paper Mario. Not to mention some first party WiiWare stuff, probably a new 2D Metroid and some new IPs. Wow can't wait.

Oh yeah I forgot, third party stuff too. Capcom buyout anyone?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 16, 2008, 11:43:59 PM
Your not hyping this up enough!

Conference:

(http://www.4colorrebellion.com/media/pics/07/04/nintendowns3.jpg)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Caliban on September 17, 2008, 01:01:59 AM
I expect a lot of people to be dissapointed with this conference because of a lack of 1st party old school core titles (damn I almost typed tities).
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 17, 2008, 01:22:28 AM
I expect a lot of people to be dissapointed with this conference because of a lack of 1st party old school core titles (damn I almost typed tities).

Really? I think the opposite will be true. Nintendo has disappointed its hardcore fans at the E3 conference, so I think they've learned from their mistake and they're going to focus more on those kinds of games to make up for that disappointment. They already pretty much have the softcore audience locked up tight, so now they just have to expand into Sony and MS's turf.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 17, 2008, 01:51:01 AM
Really? I think the opposite will be true. Nintendo has disappointed its hardcore fans at the E3 conference, so I think they've learned from their mistake and they're going to focus more on those kinds of games to make up for that disappointment. They already pretty much have the softcore audience locked up tight, so now they just have to expand into Sony and MS's turf.

Some people just never learn, I guess.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: SixthAngel on September 17, 2008, 02:35:36 AM
Expect a lot of Wii Sports Resort and probably a quick demo of something new or improved that uses the motion +. 

If a game is going to be released soon after (maybe Disaster) I expect them to talk about it a lot as a way for some good advertisement and excitement directly before release.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on September 17, 2008, 02:56:24 AM
If we all die before the press conference, the ones looking forward to it will die the happiest. That's why i'm PUMPED!
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 17, 2008, 11:59:17 AM
I'm thinking they might talk about Disaster, Pikmin 3 and probably Wii Music and Sports Resort. I'd love to hear a Captain Rainbow coming to America (or Europe) announcement, but I'm not banking on it.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 17, 2008, 12:52:07 PM
It's a Japanese retailer conference, so there's no reason for them to have anything relating to localizations...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 17, 2008, 01:04:01 PM
Whoever mentioned F-Zero, DAMN YOU TO HELL!

I still play GX from time to time. I can't imagine how sick it would be on the Wii.


BTW, have you ever thought about what F-Zero would be like if it were planes instead of cars?

I have yet to see an airplane racing game that isn't Diddykong racing.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: King of Twitch on September 17, 2008, 01:22:52 PM
Or bumper boats for that matter. Wouldn't that be fun
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 17, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
It really would.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: TheFleece on September 17, 2008, 02:14:11 PM
I'm hoping for one of the two if not both to be announced:

1. The storage solution will coincide with the SD Card Association's new standard that will let people boot info right from the cards.
2. A new DS system.

I'm sure neither will be mentioned at all, instead a Wii in different colors will show up and people will lose their minds for another year trying to get the best color.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2008, 02:16:13 PM
Wii Watermelon
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Caliban on September 17, 2008, 02:17:12 PM
I still play GX from time to time. I can't imagine how sick it would be on the Wii.

It would play and look just as good. At least I would hope so.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: IceCold on September 17, 2008, 05:06:29 PM
F-ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Adrock on September 17, 2008, 08:59:16 PM
Considering Captain Rainbow already came out on August 28th, I wouldn't be expecting that either.
Still a safe bet. I've seen companies show off games that are already out. Someone said a new DS. Maybe in a perfect world where we all ride unicorns to the moon.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 17, 2008, 09:32:57 PM
Still a safe bet. I've seen companies show off games that are already out. Someone said a new DS. Maybe in a perfect world where we all ride unicorns to the moon.

Again, this is a retailer conference...They won't show off products that are already out...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference? - October 2nd
Post by: that Baby guy on September 17, 2008, 09:43:27 PM
New Pokemon Stadium, a mention of about six "core" titles being worked on for 09, which may or may not include Wii Sports Resort, Kirby Wii is included, a new Mario DS game, and a DS Redesign for Feb. or March 09.  Expect Nintendo to go back on their word of "no" price drop, by creating new Wii and DS bundles.  The units will have the traditional price points, but will be better values, in order to compete with the new Xbox price points.

Also, we'll see mention of an update that allows greater SD card functionality, for VC or DLC in general.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: rad.i.kal on September 18, 2008, 02:27:16 AM
I do believe that it will be a good conference! They said at the end of E3, this is not the place to reveal all our info... or something close to that, so maybe this is it!? I really really hope so, if they screw us again, I will be not happy. Got a 360 that I play more right now due to lack of games and lack of hope for hardcore gamers.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: KDR_11k on September 18, 2008, 02:48:58 AM
Whoa, 41 replies and noone went "OMG KID ICARUS" yet. Maybe we can finally lay that stupid idea to rest.

Quote
The units will have the traditional price points, but will be better values, in order to compete with the new Xbox price points.
lolwut
Why would they try to compete with the 360 price drop? The Wii doesn't need a price advantage, to most buyers it's the better system of the two.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 18, 2008, 03:38:15 AM
More like, to most buyers, the 360 isn't even a consideration.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 18, 2008, 05:53:54 AM

Why would they try to compete with the 360 price drop? The Wii doesn't need a price advantage, to most buyers it's the better system of the two.

It also doesn't because you still need a hard drive for the arcade unit which is incidentally atleast 100 dollars so the price of a arcade is *gasp* 299.99 which is.......the pro unit! But if you need cables, headsets and xbox live the price increases dramatically.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 18, 2008, 08:02:35 AM
I'd buy a new Wii if a black version were announced.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on September 18, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
It'd be the same size, don't get too excited.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: TheFleece on September 18, 2008, 09:32:38 AM
NOA is having their own event too on the same days http://wii.ign.com/articles/911/911159p1.html

All I hope is that it isn't another peripheral or a new colored anything. I want to see something that hasn't been shown off.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on September 18, 2008, 09:37:26 AM
Must be big then. Sounds like Zelda. Finally a Crossbow Training sequel.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: TheFleece on September 18, 2008, 09:49:43 AM
What they should do is stream it through the Nintendo Channel.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 18, 2008, 10:06:39 AM
It'd be the same size, don't get too excited.

LOL
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: KDR_11k on September 18, 2008, 10:25:25 AM
It also doesn't because you still need a hard drive for the arcade unit which is incidentally atleast 100 dollars so the price of a arcade is *gasp* 299.99 which is.......the pro unit! But if you need cables, headsets and xbox live the price increases dramatically.

They have a special promotion with the Arcade and Forza/Pinata for 188€ here, add a harddrive at 100€ (I presume, the 60GB HDD doesn't seem to be sold yet) and you get a system with two full games and the usual 5 Live Arcade games for ~20€ more than a Pro while the Pro comes with zero games. I'd consider a Pro currently if it came bundled with games but it seems they've stopped doing that for now after they introduced the 60GB HDD.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Spinnzilla on September 18, 2008, 10:39:25 PM
me wants:

F-Zero Wii with an online system that surpasses MKwii.

Metroid Dread will finally be confirmed (perhaps as a launch title for the rumored DS 2)

Wii Music discs used as coaster.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2008, 11:09:51 PM
Ehhh...... I just can't bring myself to care. There could be surprises. Or not. Either way, I can wait. I won't hype myself up for shows anymore.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 19, 2008, 12:40:57 AM
Maybe they'll show some new stuff we can complain about!  :D

"New IP"
"I wanted ZELDA"
"New Zelda"
"Where are the NEW IP's"
"MARIO BASKETBALL?!!?"
"No Ian they didn't announce that!"
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 19, 2008, 04:49:44 AM
Here's what I honestly expect:
- A new Wii Sports Resort demo showing new events and WiiMotionPlus

- A new Wii Music demonstration featuring new instruments and the unveiling of new game modes

- Early footage of Pikmin 3

- Talk about Wii and DS sales

- Some new WiiWare titles from Nintendo (they haven't released any games in a while)

- Mario Party 9 featuring MotionPlus controls

- Some new DS titles

- New City Folk footage with a WiiSpeak demo

- A surprise game announcement (A big maybe, I expect it to be either a sequel or the next game in the Wii series)

- Lots of whining and bitching about Kid Icarus, Punch-out or any core title being confirmed

Fans are already making the mistake of getting their hopes up. E3 I understand the disappointment because we were promised a great show. This is merely a press conference in which they will show off existing, upcoming products. I'll be stunned if megatons are dropped.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Ian Sane on September 19, 2008, 12:57:32 PM
Quote
- Talk about Wii and DS sales

This is by FAR the most accurate prediction anyone has made.  Nintendo will dedicate at least half of the conference bragging about how f*cking rich they are.  They'll likely brag about not lowering prices and stuff like that too.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 19, 2008, 01:14:41 PM
Maybe they will reveal the rumored Zelda FPS game that Link's crossbow training was a demo of...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 19, 2008, 06:25:20 PM
Hyrule Commando
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: KDR_11k on September 20, 2008, 02:14:54 AM
Quote
- Talk about Wii and DS sales

This is by FAR the most accurate prediction anyone has made.  Nintendo will dedicate at least half of the conference bragging about how f*cking rich they are.  They'll likely brag about not lowering prices and stuff like that too.

It's a retailer conference, they'd at least brag about how much money that means for retailers.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
Hey, hey, it's RUMOUR TIME!

Quote from: Gamekyo
We can announce today that Nintendo will reveal a new game for the Wii during this event which is actually an old franchise that everyone is waiting for. Nintendo press conference will be held in Japan on October 2nd.

Source: Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/newsen29138_nintendo-reviving-an-old-franchise-for-the-wii.html)

Mmmmm, gotta love speculation!
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2008, 06:34:29 PM
LOL Zelda for 2010
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 30, 2008, 06:47:57 PM
LOL Zelda for 2010

I agree. I find this incredibly pointless news without a projected release time.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Spinnzilla on September 30, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
It's going to be the return of Radar Scope, guyz. 
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 30, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
How old is old?

F-Zero old? Or, Kid Icarus old?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: D_Average on September 30, 2008, 07:21:25 PM
My prediction is a slight glimpse of Kid Icarus, Disaster dated, new DS model, and a persuasive speech that Wii Music is what we've always wanted.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2008, 07:58:47 PM
Are we gonna do this live in the IRC chat?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Caterkiller on September 30, 2008, 08:46:23 PM
Im going to get my hopes insanely high, but not at its peak. I want more than anything else a new Nintendo developed Star Fox, but I don't expect it for a long long time.

I can see F-Zero, Pikmin, Zelda, and Kid Iccarus, all befor Star Fox... boo!
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2008, 08:51:38 PM
Hm that reminds me... Maybe by "old" franchise they meant Pikmin which has been announced but not shown!

I still think it'd be hilarious if they showed of a Zelda title, but Star Fox might be a candidate too since they haven't given us one recently (for wii that is).

I'm not putting money down on Kid Icarus though, for a few reasons.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on September 30, 2008, 08:57:05 PM
My hopes are down to zero. It's just going to be about that boring new DS.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2008, 09:04:18 PM
My hopes are down to zero. It's just going to be about that boring new DS.

sadly this is what it might actually be. Oh well, we can dream
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2008, 09:08:07 PM
Pikmin's not old, Star Fox is not old, F-Zero is dead, DS is not Wii...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2008, 09:15:17 PM
Well Wii is new and GC era "flops" might be old to nintendo, so theres a chance Bill! Plus, if we're going to go the cynical anti-nintendo route here, it'd be easy to think that Nintendos "promise" of an 'old' franchise we've all been waiting for will turn out to be something that we don't want or dont consider old and be all casual and blah blah blah.

But i'm not really going that route. I'm just being a jerk cuz i dont wanna get my hopes up for anything. Oh and Star Fox is kinda old considering the last god game came out in '97 (?)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on September 30, 2008, 09:37:49 PM
I'd love Starfox.

But come to think of it, this could be Pilotwings.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 30, 2008, 09:41:04 PM
Starfox plz. F-zero plz. Anything not related to rythem plz.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: TheFleece on September 30, 2008, 09:43:09 PM
I wouldn't mind a new Kid Icarus, I really want a new F Zero or Pilot Wings. Anyone for Punch Out?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 01, 2008, 01:10:44 AM
Mach Rider
Popeye
Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Duck Hunt
Zelda
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on October 01, 2008, 01:38:36 AM
All in one mega party game! Nintendo Party 9. Woo Woo
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: that Baby guy on October 01, 2008, 02:41:22 AM
Mach Rider
Popeye
Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Duck Hunt
Zelda

I've really wanted a game with an appearance with the dog from Duck Hunt.  He is perhaps one of my most favorite classic characters.  To be honest, though, I'd love to see how Nintendo has turned Project H.A.M.M.E.R. into Sprite Climbers Wii.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: KDR_11k on October 01, 2008, 03:11:07 AM
So the Kid Icarus babble did really start again...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on October 01, 2008, 03:16:30 AM
I started it. I was really just asking what Nintendo's definition of old is. I've never played Kid Icarus, but I can see it's appeal.......character wise. A young angel with a bow and a sword........sounds familiar.

EDIT:


BTW, the conference is on Thursday right? But since it's in Japan, it's more like Wednesday night for us in the US?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on October 01, 2008, 05:16:22 AM
Yes it's Thursday Japan time. Don't know if there's a specific time set but some time in the day is my guess! About 18 hours.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: EasyCure on October 01, 2008, 11:19:33 AM
Wasnt NOA going to have their own conference on the same day?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 11:20:39 AM
Sometime tomorrow...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: vudu on October 01, 2008, 01:55:57 PM
Mach Rider
Popeye
Gyromite
Hogan's Alley
Duck Hunt
Zelda

You forgot Gumshoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumshoe_(video_game)).  ;)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 01:57:23 PM
Gumshoe should just be reworked into a console adventure point-and-click, with a few nostalgic shooting segments...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Ian Sane on October 01, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
A lot of Nintendo's franchises are old.  Even Pokemon is over 10 years old and that's a big time frame in videogame years.  And there is a difference between "old" and "old and long neglected".  Mario is old.  But some Mario related game would be very ho-hum.  If they don't specify the franchise being dormant for a while can we really assume?  After so many years of severe letdowns I don't think you can ever assume with Nintendo.

And even if it's an old and dormant franchise there are still a few things that can screw it up.  Since WHEN does Nintendo have any firm grasp of what their fans are looking for?  They just spent ten years being totally out-to-lunch with gamers and only by focusing on a completely new market were they able to bounce back.  They're still fuddy-duddies.  Talented fuddy-duddies but they never changed - they just found a new audience that is too ignorant to notice.  Even if Nintendo grabs an old franchise that has long been dormant they could very well resurrect Urban Champion.  You just never know with them.

And you can't assume that even if they use a franchise that's really cool that they'll do anything worthwhile with it.  I'm sure Nintendo thought they were sucking up to Star Fox fans by shoehorning the franchise into Dinosaur Planet.  I'm sure they thought those other Star Fox games were exactly what fans were looking for.  Well they weren't.  Yeah, they had "Star Fox" on the box but the last time the franchise was any good was in 1997.  When a Pokemon game is annouced do you ever assume that THIS time it's going to be the real 3D RPG and not some Stadium style crap?  Or look at what Metroid product is on the DS.  Note how none of them resemble Metroid.  Or how about how Nintendo has tried to HIDE remakes with different titles?  Super Mario Advance and Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland are both remakes but the titles don't indicate that.  If I recall it took a little while for people to confirm that they were remakes after they were annouced.  So who's to say a remake might be Nintendo's idea of resurrecting a franchise?

They COULD nail it.  They could for example make a new Kid Icarus or Punch-Out that just blows everyone away.  But this is Nintendo.  They're the videogame equivalent of your dad trying to be cool.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 05:26:02 PM
Considering how popular Nintendo is, I find that analogy hilariously inaccurate...

Unless you mean "like your dad trying to be cool" as coming from a whiny teenager who has to rebel against everything and everyone, no matter what, even if it's in his favor...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Deguello on October 01, 2008, 05:35:44 PM
Quote
They're still fuddy-duddies.

Quote
Talented fuddy-duddies

Does anybody else picture Ian a in bar in his thirties with some kind of ironic t-shirt like "Tell your girlfriend I said thanks" or "Leave Lindsey A-Lohan" while trying to chat up 18 year olds and randomly saying stuff like "LAWL" and "ROOFLE OWNED" and "I DID IT FOR THE  LULZ?"

I wonder which geezer is trying to be cool here.

Also Ian, sidebar, argument lesson.  You cannot be a populist (Using "we") when most people here disagree with you, AND when you are trying to criticize the "new market" for not being as cool as you.  It comes across as ridiculous and makes your posts so easy to gloss over and ignore in the future.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on October 01, 2008, 06:04:56 PM
I understand what Ian's saying, but like always, he takes it too far.

Nintendo is coolest. Period. When was the last time you heard people talking about Nintendo in a bar? Or when was the last time you could make a girl genuinely excited by saying you have a Wii (har har) and she can come over and play it?

When? The year of the rat?!
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 01, 2008, 06:09:32 PM
Come to think of it, the last time Nintendo was on top was around 1996, which was the last time we had a year of the rat. So maybe there is something to that zodiac stuff...
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Stogi on October 01, 2008, 06:14:13 PM
LOL

that is too funny.

I was just quoting Rush Hour 2.......

"When was the last time you went on a date? Huh?! When was the last time you got some muuuushooooo?! Huh?! The year of the rat?!"
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 01, 2008, 07:38:49 PM
Lol Rat was banned not too long ago.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 01, 2008, 08:13:41 PM
The Japan Retailer Conference will start at 1:30 pm to 3:00 pm Japan time which would put it at 9:30 pm pacific time.I will try to find the time of the NA conference.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 01, 2008, 08:49:15 PM
MEGATON FAP

BE SURE TO SCHEDULE FAPPING ON YOUR MEGATON CALENDARS
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 09:00:58 PM
You guys want a fun (and hilariously far-fetched) rumour (http://www.gameblog.fr/news_6414_nintendo-les-annonces-du-2-octobre) to play around with until it's go-time?  These two games will be shown at the conference... ='D

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

FILL IN THE BLANKS TIME! (spaces included)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 01, 2008, 09:18:56 PM
Lol Rat was banned not too long ago.

Why? What did he do? :o  Was he up to his underhanded rat-like ways again?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 01, 2008, 09:20:09 PM
Hmm, I think the second is Kid Icarus and I don't know the first.

He did this Chozo Ghost (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=26243.0)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on October 01, 2008, 09:23:33 PM
Dancing Stage Zelda
Wave Race
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on October 01, 2008, 09:38:21 PM
tingles house party
mario basketball II
donkey kong karting
wario fart training
metroid pinball two
wario ware balanced
super paper waluigi
yoshi pole vaulting
pokemon stadium wii
1080 snowboarding 3
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Caliban on October 01, 2008, 11:04:51 PM
Expect some announcements to be embargoed until Monday. I guarantee it.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Pale on October 01, 2008, 11:09:35 PM
Quote
They're still fuddy-duddies.

Quote
Talented fuddy-duddies

Does anybody else picture Ian a in bar in his thirties with some kind of ironic t-shirt like "Tell your girlfriend I said thanks" or "Leave Lindsey A-Lohan" while trying to chat up 18 year olds and randomly saying stuff like "LAWL" and "ROOFLE OWNED" and "I DID IT FOR THE  LULZ?"

I wonder which geezer is trying to be cool here.

Also Ian, sidebar, argument lesson.  You cannot be a populist (Using "we") when most people here disagree with you, AND when you are trying to criticize the "new market" for not being as cool as you.  It comes across as ridiculous and makes your posts so easy to gloss over and ignore in the future.
Deg, I know you've been here longer than me and all that, but your rants against Ian ARE personal attacks and those are against the rules.  Come on man.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 11:10:07 PM
Nothing was embargoed last year, so why would it this year?  (Talking the Japan retailer conference here, not the NOA conference where game impressions were embargoed...)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Pale on October 01, 2008, 11:11:14 PM
What two games are in that link you posted Bill?  I don't understand! =P
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Deguello on October 01, 2008, 11:22:10 PM
Quote
They're still fuddy-duddies.

Quote
Talented fuddy-duddies

Does anybody else picture Ian a in bar in his thirties with some kind of ironic t-shirt like "Tell your girlfriend I said thanks" or "Leave Lindsey A-Lohan" while trying to chat up 18 year olds and randomly saying stuff like "LAWL" and "ROOFLE OWNED" and "I DID IT FOR THE  LULZ?"

I wonder which geezer is trying to be cool here.

Also Ian, sidebar, argument lesson.  You cannot be a populist (Using "we") when most people here disagree with you, AND when you are trying to criticize the "new market" for not being as cool as you.  It comes across as ridiculous and makes your posts so easy to gloss over and ignore in the future.
Deg, I know you've been here longer than me and all that, but your rants against Ian ARE personal attacks and those are against the rules.  Come on man.

I disagree.  Since most of Ian's posts are his personal opinion, and his personal opinion changes to whatever's convenient at the time, he'd actually have to have a "person" before I could personally attack it.

But the issue of "what's cool" and "what's popular" and the image of "your dad trying to be cool" has little to do with the topic material and was clearly meant to flame.

AND I also jumped onto the flaws in his argument because you cannot be a populist (we ain't gonna take this crappy Wii any more, dang blammit!) and an elitist (psh these Nintendo fans and their standards that are different than my standards) at the same time.  One must give out to the other as they are diametrically opposed.  So my post was more than just a dig at somebody, it had very real merit and advice.

So, nyeh.
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 11:31:23 PM
What two games are in that link you posted Bill?  I don't understand! =P

You'll find out in an hour, be patient!

And Ian made a completely out-of-place and inaccurate comment that Deg merely rebutted with facts... =)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 01, 2008, 11:32:48 PM
Nothing was embargoed last year, so why would it this year?  (Talking the Japan retailer conference here, not the NOA conference where game impressions were embargoed...)

It will be embargoed. I read it somewhere (a reliable gaming website, but I can't for the life of me remember which one)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Mario on October 01, 2008, 11:33:25 PM
I'd probably have been much harsher and less funny and not got a warning, so i think it's fine! Back to topic

Pikmin Three: Earth
Boom Blox (repackaged feat Mario)
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 01, 2008, 11:35:32 PM
PS: Stream or live updates?

Anyone? Anywhere?
Title: Re: Incoming Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2008, 11:36:26 PM
It will be embargoed. I read it somewhere (a reliable gaming website, but I can't for the life of me remember which one)

It was probably referring to a Cassamassina quote about IGN live-blogging the conference...I've seen people quoting him about an embargo, but they didn't realize that IGN is only live-blogging the NOA conference...If you can find your source that'd be awesome, though...

PS: Stream or live updates?

Anyone? Anywhere?

Haven't found one yet...It'll most likely be live updates over a stream...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 12:32:40 AM
Updates?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 12:34:03 AM
Famitsu Live Blog (http://www.famitsu.com/blog/express/2008/10/2008_1.html)
Gemaga Live Blog (http://gemaga.sbcr.jp/)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 12:40:20 AM
Your going to have to translate, Bill
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: RedBlue on October 02, 2008, 12:42:01 AM
http://kotaku.com/5057867/liveblogging-the-nintendo-press-conference-liveblog (http://kotaku.com/5057867/liveblogging-the-nintendo-press-conference-liveblog)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 12:45:20 AM
Chat's fucked up
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: RedBlue on October 02, 2008, 12:47:39 AM
New DSi
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:48:19 AM
Kotaku's says that the new DS was announced called the DSi
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 12:49:23 AM
Is it similar to THO?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:51:47 AM
THO? the hot one?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 12:52:14 AM
DSi will lack a GBA slot (not surprising...)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 12:52:38 AM
No gba slot = FAIL!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 12:52:49 AM
DSi, "i" like "eye" and eye as in camera. Hohohoho how deliciously clever......
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 02, 2008, 12:53:25 AM
Chat's fucked up

Chatango? nintendoworldreport.chatango.com
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 12:55:41 AM
no GBA slot = i'll have to use my actual GBA.

Oh no, I can't play Guitar Hero On Tour now. Fuuuuuuuuuucccc......
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 12:57:20 AM
13:49 Nintendo DSi a 30-million-pixel camera. 2画面タッチパネルを生かして、写真で遊びを提案。 Touch the screen to take advantage of two panels, photographs proposed in the game.

13:50 ニンテンドーDSiサウンドは、ピッチと再生スピードを自由に調整可能。 13:50 sound DSi Nintendo, pitch and speed can be adjusted freely.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:58:25 AM
sound interesting.What do you guys think are some things you can do with this?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 12:59:55 AM
pic
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 01:02:05 AM
SD memory card slot will be included. Photos taken will be able to be viewed through the Wii Photo Channel.

There will be on-board memory storage. Applications can be downloaded to the internal storage and selected.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 01:03:29 AM
You can take games you've downloaded to the DSi with you. Also, Wii Points will be renamed to become Nintendo Points.

The Nintendo DSi will come with a browser included.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:03:37 AM
incoming DS vc??
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:04:49 AM
The Nintendo DSi can adjust pitch and playback, making it ideal for language study and listening to music.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 01:05:29 AM
Hell yeah. DS Lite owners OWNED, HEVY CREW REJOICE!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 01:05:54 AM
incoming DS vc??

From the "Nintendo DS Shop," you can download "Nintendo DS Ware." Software will be split into four categories: Free, 200, 500, Premium (800). And until March 2010, you'll get a free 1000 points (1000 yen or $10) when you buy a DSi.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 01:06:23 AM
lol .3 megapixels
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 02, 2008, 01:07:16 AM
i like it, mainly due to the bigger screens.

lack of gba port (somewhat) sucks though...

"Warning - while you were typing 7 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post."

XD

oh, and NINTENDO POINTS
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:08:17 AM
megaton! 11 / 1 release! 1 month :o
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:11:40 AM
Is it coming to the states?
edit:nevermind
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 01:12:41 AM
hit up the chatango
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 01:14:06 AM
Next year for everywhere else. DS Lites holiday season destroyed, nobody will buy it with this coming. Wii might benefit from that.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 01:18:18 AM
/r/ chat info
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 01:18:25 AM
MARIO & LUIGI 3 DS!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 01:20:41 AM
So is the DSi a new system, or is it just DS Lite Plus?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:21:38 AM
OMG yes yes yes mario & Luigi 3!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:23:38 AM
So is the DSi a new system, or is it just DS Lite Plus?
Yep.. just a DS Lite Plus.  But it sounds like a great upgrade.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:24:57 AM
Kohler, over at Game|Life, has yet to report on a Mario and Luigi 3 for the DS.

I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:25:34 AM
Games due out around launch: Valk Profile DS, Kirby (most likely SSU), Kyotaro, Rockman (most likely MMSF3), World Food, Phantasy Star Zero, Momotaro Dentetsu (RUMOR - Mario and Luigi 3)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:26:10 AM
DS and wii FFCC Games  being shown

Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:27:18 AM
w00t.  Nintendo Wii storage solution solved.

Play games straight off the SD card.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:28:20 AM
Yes YES Yes!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:29:06 AM
Quote
DS ending of the announcement. ここからWiiのプレゼンになりました。 Wii's presentation here. 本体保存メモリの不足への対応として、SDメモリーカードにWiiソフトを直接DL可能に。 Save the body in response to the shortage of memory, SD memory card directly to the DL with Wii software. また、SD上のWiiソフトを簡単に本体メモリにコピー。 Also, SD on the Wii console software to easily copy the memory. 2009年春に対応予定。 Will respond in the spring of 2009.

sound like they're removing the protection off the sd card!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:30:39 AM
- AAC playback for DSi

- DS browser will be Opera
-Dragon Quest IX being shown
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 01:33:15 AM
Why do I have to wait until Spring 09 to read games off SD card? Can't they just do a firmware update NOW and i download it and I'm good to go ?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:34:47 AM
Quit griping and be thankful
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:35:39 AM
Nintendo is going to ship a 3 minute movie called "Wii de Dekiru Koto" (What You Can Do With The Wii). It shows users how to easily connect to the internet. Nintendo is also putting special Wi-Fi adaptors on the market as well. Plus, the company is launching a new campaign by giving those who cannot connect to the internet 500 points.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:38:09 AM
Enhancement of SOFUTOTAITORURAINNAPPU 14:29. プロペ開発のWiiリモコンに触らずに遊ぶ「レッツタップ」紹介。 Bae professional development without touching the remote control to play the Wii, "Let's tap the" referral.
14:32 ピクミンなどゲームキューブの名作ソフトをプレイする「Wiiであそぶセレクション」をシリーズ展開。 Pikmin for the GameCube classics, such as 14:32 to play soft "Wii play in the selection" series.

wait what?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 01:40:35 AM
"Let's tap the" SOFUTOTAITORURAINNAPPU


I mean, who wouldn't want to!?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:41:12 AM
For the Wii version of Animal Crossing, it's possible to swape data over the DS version and use Miis in-game. The debuted-at-E3 Wii Speak gets a November 20th sale date in Japan for ¥7,800 (US$74).
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:42:45 AM
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblogging-th.html

There.  Geez guys.  Live blog of the live blog by Chris Kohler.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 01:43:03 AM
"A new series of software is coming out called "Let's Tap." It's games like Pikmin that were released on GameCube, adapted for play on Wii. Hopefully this is not the Pikmin 3 Miyamoto referenced at E3 2008. If so, we will hang ourselves."

Aptly put.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:43:35 AM
And now we have Punch-Out!

w00t!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 01:43:53 AM
Oh my fucking god

Sin and Punishment 2
Another Code Wii
Punch Out
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 01:44:13 AM
**** YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:45:01 AM
3D Picross
Gyakuten Kenji next spring
Infinite Line next spring
- more talk of previously announced wifi adapter-
 ACCF with Wii Speak bundle hits Japan on November 20th.
OMG PUNCH OUT!!
I am going crazy with all this news!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 02, 2008, 01:46:35 AM
Sin & Punishment 2???

O:
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 01:47:57 AM
Sin and Punishment 2.... jaw drop....
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 01:48:50 AM
Sin & Punishment 2???

O:

wow hardcore mature man-balls-drop
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 01:48:55 AM
Sin and Punishment 2 and Punch Out.

MY GOD this is MEGATON THURSDAY!!!!!!!

Now those are 2 games I extremely wanted for the Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:50:03 AM
I am so over the top with my emotions now. Yes!

And for the first time, the Musou (Dynasty Warriors) series is coming to the Wii. That's right, Sangoku Musou 3 will be appearing on the Nintendo Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:50:38 AM
Yeah.. I'd say I'm happy. :D
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 01:51:00 AM
WHERE THE **** IS IANSANE?!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:51:47 AM
14:52: Iwata leaves the stage, and Miyamoto comes up

Zelda in 3.....2..................
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 01:51:59 AM
So this is why E3 sucked? Or is this, "Sorry that E3 sucked?"
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2008, 01:53:05 AM
Miyamoto's up talking about Wii Music...

Boo!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: mantidor on October 02, 2008, 01:54:45 AM
Hopefully the bring that wii selection thing to the west because I really want to play Pikmin and Jungle Beat but they are impossible to find on GC.

Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 01:55:10 AM
"Moving on to Wii Music demo with Shigeru Miyamoto."


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 01:57:51 AM
Try Gamestop (I know, I know, but beggars can't be choosers). I got Jungle Beat less than a year ago for $12 brand new. Granded that was 11 months ago, but you never know. They had a friggin' stack of them. How many people could have been looking for that game?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 02, 2008, 01:58:02 AM
MEGATON FAP
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 02:01:28 AM
I went into this conference with some pretty high hype and it was REDEEMED!  So AWESOME!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 02:02:13 AM
"I wanted the Wii to be a game console that makes your living room bigger," said Miyamoto.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 02:10:46 AM
Oh, speaking of music games: a NeoGAF poster found a press release on Bandai Namco's site that says Taiko no Tatsujin will be released for Wii on December 11. It'll cost 7800 yen and include a drum controller.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Gylldas on October 02, 2008, 02:12:55 AM
HOT SHIZ!!! This is not helping me finish my ochem lab.....
Sin and Punishment 2 > School grades and $$$
As always my wallet is screaming.

*fangasm* ^^
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 02:13:13 AM
15:04 Visitors randomly chosen from the audience and even a session with Miyamoto. なかなか楽しげ。 Quite happily.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 02:15:30 AM
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/index.html#event
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/dsi.html
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 02:21:41 AM
pics
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 02, 2008, 02:24:17 AM
The video was awesome, can't wait for Another Code Wii.

WAIT.

DID I SEE ENDLESS OCEAN 2 IN THERE?

I die happy.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 02:25:31 AM
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/punchout3_1.JPG)
I'm so excited for Punch Out!!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 02:27:49 AM
now I just need to know how it controls
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 02, 2008, 02:28:30 AM
....and to think I was in the mind set that Nintendo was completely failing the hardcore audience (I'll never doubt you again Nintendo)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 02:29:05 AM
and Miyamoto leaves the stage.

:(
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 02:36:32 AM
WII FIRST-PARTY GAMES ANNOUNCED

Another Code 2

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyanothercode2.jpg)

Cosmic Walker

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintycosmicwalker.jpg)

New Dynamic

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintydynamic.jpg)

Beautiful Ocean

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyendlessocean2.jpg)

Punch-Out

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintypunchout.jpg)

Sin & Punishment 2

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintysinpunishment2.jpg)

Spawn Smasher

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintyspawn.jpg)

Tact of Magic

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Videogames/nintytactofmagic.jpg)

(Plus two other Mii-related games that I couldn't figure out...)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 02, 2008, 02:39:21 AM
Bill delivers. What is this Dynamic Moon speak game?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 02:40:47 AM
cosmic walker and sin & punishment look awesome
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 02:44:30 AM
Bill delivers. What is this Dynamic Moon speak game?

No idea...All I can tell is that it's an ARPG-esque game with a female protagonist (who looks like Zelda)...

(Okay, the name is "New Dynamic")
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Deguello on October 02, 2008, 02:47:45 AM
Well the list of people owned by this conference is certainly long.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 02:52:27 AM
Meh.

More than what I expected, but still subpar.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 02:55:37 AM
A new iteration of a system, wii storage, and several new "hardcore" wii games.

What is par if this is subpar?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 02:57:30 AM
None of the following:

F-zero
Star Fox
Zelda
... and kid ic if you care about that.

I kinda agree. But hey it's wayy better than e3! I'm not trying to bring people down, just saying!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 02:58:40 AM
hey, I knew those were a long shot. That's why I went into this expecting nothing.

And why do you want Zelda to be announced. It's only been two years.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 02:59:03 AM
Did anyone else see Bowser in Mario and Luigi 3?I am just overjoyed.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 02:59:28 AM
Meh.

More than what I expected, but still subpar.

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Assorted/grimace.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 02:59:54 AM
Well the list of people owned by this conference is certainly long.

The new DS is HOT.  I'm not going nuts over the Wii stuff, but Sin & Punishment 2 and Punch Out are pure awesomeness.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:02:07 AM
None of the following:

F-zero
Star Fox
Zelda
... and kid ic if you care about that.

I kinda agree. But hey it's wayy better than e3! I'm not trying to bring people down, just saying!

F-Zero is dead, I'm telling you...Star Fox probably is too, or perhaps they just don't want to screw the series over again...Zelda won't be out til the end of next year...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 02, 2008, 03:10:15 AM
I assume we will see some western dev stuff tomorrow?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Deguello on October 02, 2008, 03:12:44 AM
Well the list of people owned by this conference is certainly long.

The new DS is HOT.  I'm not going nuts over the Wii stuff, but Sin & Punishment 2 and Punch Out are pure awesomeness.

Well this was a total non-sequiter.

But if you think I meant you, please be aware that this conference owned people who said "Nintendo's direction was forever for casuals and non-gamers" and all that and "E3 means the world and let's have a 3 month bitchfest" and "Nintendo doesn't have any new IPs" (which they just showed a lot of) and all that ****.

Not "You will enjoy everything you see here."  That's a goalpost moving.

As for the conference, in total, this is the reason Nintendo's #1 and everybody else is breathing fumes.  IT's just a shame 3rd parties can't seem to match Nintendo's effort despite sitting on their thumbs for 2 years straight.  A lot of them are too busy with 5 year funding vortexes for HD machines that have much smaller userbases.  Oh well, maybe they'll wisen up soon.  When it starts to hurt.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:13:38 AM
Actually, "New Dynamic" is "Dynamic Slash"...That makes tons more sense...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:15:27 AM
I assume we will see some western dev stuff tomorrow?

Yeah, I believe IGN already confirmed playable MadWorld (yes it's a Japanese developer, but as of right now it won't be released there, so it counts as Western...)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 02, 2008, 03:16:21 AM
See, all you guys who were bitching about Nintendo's E3 lineup should have listened to me. :P I was saying they had more things up their sleeve since back then.

Now we just have to wait for Ian to log on and find out what he has to bitch about this time.  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 02, 2008, 03:18:11 AM
Cosmic Walker....

Is this a game like Rez? or is it more Endless Ocean in Space?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:18:44 AM
Now we just have to wait for Ian to log on and find out what he has to bitch about this time.  :P

Well there's no Mario Basketball, so probably about the new DS...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 03:19:27 AM
hey, I knew those were a long shot.

I don't know man, I don't think Star Fox and Zero are long shots. But lets just shut up about it before bill sends ME a mad face.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 03:19:55 AM
But if you think I meant you, please be aware that this conference owned people who said "Nintendo's direction was forever for casuals and non-gamers" and all that and "E3 means the world and let's have a 3 month bitchfest" and "Nintendo doesn't have any new IPs" (which they just showed a lot of) and all that ****.

I don't consider myself somebody that got "owned" by this press conference, so no, I didn't think that at all.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 02, 2008, 03:26:57 AM
I need more info on this Line Attack game.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:29:00 AM
2009 Line-up

Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) Spring
Start w/ 100 Conversations! English Conversation (Nintendo) 2009
Punch-Out!! (Nintendo) 2009
Trace Memory: R, Gateway of Memory (Nintendo) 2009
Kensax (Nintendo) 2009
Cosmic Walker (Nintendo) 2009
Spawn Smasher (Nintendo) 2009
Dynamic Slash (Nintendo) 2009
Tact of Magic (Nintendo) 2009
Sin & Punishment 2 (Nintendo) 2009
Forever Blue 2: Beautiful Ocean (Nintendo) 2009
Everyone's the Star on the NHK Red-and-White Quiz Battle (Nintendo) 2009
Line Attack Heroes (Nintendo) 2009
Castlevania: Judgment (Konami) Winter 2008-2009
Dead Rising: Zombies' Sacrifice (Capcom) Winter 2008-2009
FFCC: Echoes of Time (Square-Enix) 1/29
Sonic and the Black Knight (Sega) Spring
Fragile (Bandai-Namco) Winter 2008-2009
Arcrise Fantasia (Marvelous) Winter 2008-2009
Oboro Muramasa (Marvelous) Spring
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Deguello on October 02, 2008, 03:30:28 AM
But if you think I meant you, please be aware that this conference owned people who said "Nintendo's direction was forever for casuals and non-gamers" and all that and "E3 means the world and let's have a 3 month bitchfest" and "Nintendo doesn't have any new IPs" (which they just showed a lot of) and all that ****.

I don't consider myself somebody that got "owned" by this press conference, so no, I didn't think that at all.

LET IT GO, MAN.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 03:30:43 AM
It's worth wondering how many of these are developed by Nintendo. Because if so, Nintendo sure has gone on a ridiculous tangent. WTF are these games?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 03:31:11 AM
Any more info on Tact of Magic?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 03:32:05 AM
LET IT GO, MAN.

Umm...OK?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 03:32:40 AM
.
2009 Line-up

Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) Spring
Start w/ 100 Conversations! English Conversation (Nintendo) 2009
Punch-Out!! (Nintendo) 2009
Trace Memory: R, Gateway of Memory (Nintendo) 2009
Kensax (Nintendo) 2009
Cosmic Walker (Nintendo) 2009
Spawn Smasher (Nintendo) 2009
Dynamic Slash (Nintendo) 2009
Tact of Magic (Nintendo) 2009
Sin & Punishment 2 (Nintendo) 2009
Forever Blue 2: Beautiful Ocean (Nintendo) 2009
Everyone's the Star on the NHK Red-and-White Quiz Battle (Nintendo) 2009
Line Attack Heroes (Nintendo) 2009
Castlevania: Judgment (Konami) Winter 2008-2009
Dead Rising: Zombies' Sacrifice (Capcom) Winter 2008-2009
FFCC: Echoes of Time (Square-Enix) 1/29
Sonic and the Black Knight (Sega) Spring
Fragile (Bandai-Namco) Winter 2008-2009
Arcrise Fantasia (Marvelous) Winter 2008-2009
Oboro Muramasa (Marvelous) Spring

My god 2009 is gonna kill my wallet
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:33:08 AM
Any more info on Tact of Magic?

I think it's developed by Gaia, a relatively new developer formed by the guy behind Shin Megami Tensei...They did Jewel Summoner for PSP...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 03:35:26 AM
There are 5 on that list that are definitely on my list and 5 more I desperately want to know more about.

P.S. Where is street fighter? It looked awesome......and more importantly........done.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 03:37:37 AM
These games weren't included in the montage...

Sengoku Musou 3
New Tales of...
Monster Hunter 3
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 02, 2008, 03:38:17 AM
I hope Punch Out uses MotionPlus
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 03:38:36 AM
Silks has been thoroughly owned by this conference
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 03:39:34 AM
Wiimusic is still coming out though
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 03:43:51 AM
Silks has been thoroughly owned by this conference

Who cares what Jon thinks. Wallow in the fun of good Nintendo-ness. Besides, he has been pretty well behaved lately. We should probably consider letting this go.

I already mentioned what I really wanted to see. But hey we got some awesome **** comming.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 02, 2008, 04:27:18 AM
I don't care for S&P2 but there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Too bad none of it is getting released in Europe soon...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Tanookisuit on October 02, 2008, 08:52:35 AM
Sin and Punishment 2!!!  That has me so excited.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: TheFleece on October 02, 2008, 09:06:55 AM
I'm pleased with everything for the most part, I can't wait for the conference over here!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 10:07:58 AM
Silks has been thoroughly owned by this conference

LET IT GO, MAN.  ;-)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 02, 2008, 10:09:59 AM
American Conference, everyone better be in the chatango (http://nintendoworldreport.chatango.com).
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - October 2nd (9:30 PST, 12:30 EST)
Post by: redgiemental on October 02, 2008, 10:21:48 AM
Some very interesting stuff for next year.

Super punch out and Sin and Punishment 2 are straight on my buy list I think.

That sword game looks interesting and surprisingly gory for a Nintendo published game.

Spawn smashers looks fun if perhaps shallow.

Is Cosmic Walker just Blue Ocean in space?

Pretty good reveals overall I'd say.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 10:24:24 AM
What time is the American Conference going down?  Noon eastern?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 10:29:43 AM
Ok, was that Street Fighter IV or another Street Fighter game?!

How come it wasn't included in the 2009 line up?

Nintendo has done it again, I'm exited to be a Wii owner!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 10:30:17 AM
It was Tatsuko VS Capcom...I would be surprised if it left Japan, personally...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: RABicle on October 02, 2008, 10:32:00 AM
Silks has been thoroughly owned by this conference

LET IT GO, MAN.  ;-)
Stop embarrassing yourself Silks. It's rubbing off on the whole site.

Also is Nintendo fair dinkum about Punch Out? I mean, really.... it's fucken punch out. It wasn't good to begin with and it won't be good now.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 10:34:38 AM
It was Tatsuko VS Capcom...I would be surprised if it left Japan, personally...

Aww crap...Well, that was my fault for believing it was SFIV.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Deguello on October 02, 2008, 10:39:20 AM
Silks has been thoroughly owned by this conference

LET IT GO, MAN.  ;-)
Stop embarrassing yourself Silks. It's rubbing off on the whole site.

Alright I actually do think it's time to lay off Silks, guys.  While it is somewhat fun to see him look foolish for ranting about non-games and non-gamers for about 3 months straight and making crazy predictions about Nintendo becoming a casual-only company, only to have a small conference in October just destroy such notions, I think he realizes that at this point, whatever bluster or bravado he puts forth.

He's had enough.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 10:42:49 AM
Oh man, you guys were all SOOOOO right.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: RABicle on October 02, 2008, 10:44:14 AM
I'm just glad Deg is around to keep the NINTENDO in NintendoWorldReport. Shame he doesn't make any effot to keep Report in the name.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 10:48:47 AM
I thought Carmine, Nick, and several of the other new hires were doing a find job keeping the Nintendo...

Not that the rest of the people don't...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
Endless Ocean 2 - I wonder what can they do with it that they didn't do in the first one? There is a lot they can do, like sharks actually attacking you, etc. but I really doubt that will happen.

Dynamic Slash = Project H.A.M.M.E.R.? (instead of a hammer we get a sword)

Space Walker - I think this could be like a survival game. Your space ship is almost without power and you have to get back to Earth, or it could be like Endless Ocean

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 10:51:16 AM
Hmm, don't forget that Project HAMMER was an NST game, and Dynamic Slash looks decidedly Japanese to me, but you could still be right.

I have a strong suspicion that Space Walker will be like Endless Ocean, not an actual game per say... at least that's what it looks like to me.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 02, 2008, 10:52:08 AM
I'm just glad Deg is around to keep the NINTENDO in NintendoWorldReport. Shame he doesn't make any effot to keep Report in the name.

Hmm last time I checked, I wrote this little piece (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/blogArt.cfm?artid=16415) about how Nintendo HASN'T abandoned the hardcore. I even ended the post with:

"Don't jump ship just yet; there is still plenty to see."

There is still plenty of Nintendo in Nintendo World Report.

Also, Silks admitted his mistake and has clearly backed off of the platform he once stood strong on. It's time to cut the guy a break, because honestly, ripping on him is getting pretty damn old.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 10:53:25 AM
Endless Ocean 2 - I wonder what can they do with it that they didn't do in the first one? There is a lot they can do, like sharks actually attacking you, etc. but I really doubt that will happen.

Dynamic Slash = Project H.A.M.M.E.R.? (instead of a hammer we get a sword)

Space Walker - I think this could be like a survival game. Your space ship is almost without power and you have to get back to Earth, or it could be like Endless Ocean

What do you guys think?

1)  More interaction; potentially a deeper story mode...
2)  Dynamic Slash is being developed by Sandlot (Earth Defense Force)
3)  I'd have to see more footage...Looks like an Adventure, though...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 10:57:14 AM
Cosmic Walker or whatever its called...

The screenshot shown reminds me alot of a game idea i had not too long ago in (i think) Kashogi's thread...

as for the rest of all this news... just.. WOW
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 11:01:12 AM
Endless Ocean 2 - I wonder what can they do with it that they didn't do in the first one? There is a lot they can do, like sharks actually attacking you, etc. but I really doubt that will happen.

Dynamic Slash = Project H.A.M.M.E.R.? (instead of a hammer we get a sword)

Space Walker - I think this could be like a survival game. Your space ship is almost without power and you have to get back to Earth, or it could be like Endless Ocean

What do you guys think?

1)  More interaction; potentially a deeper story mode...
2)  Dynamic Slash is being developed by Sandlot (Earth Defense Force)
3)  I'd have to see more footage...Looks like an Adventure, though...

1) More interaction is what I ment with sharks eating you. I really don't see anything else that can be done interaction wise. Have you ever dived yourself? Endless Ocean is a really good simulator, at least with the fish. You can feed them, touch them, they'll follow you around and you can take pictures. Thats about what you can do in reality...Maybe use your knife to kill some and then a cooking minigame.

2) So its a new game, thats good! Where is Project H.A.M.M.E.R. then?

3) Yeah, just guessing on my part. But think about it...another adventure game? It's about time Nintendo tries the survival type games, it could have potential. Imagine something like Metroid without the shooting O.o
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 11:05:24 AM
Oh CRAP, scratch that!  I just noticed that Endless Ocean 2 will have stuff that takes place IN THE AMAZON RIVER!

The fish below are the Pirarucu and Red-bellied Piranha, found only in the Amazon!

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4310/739015200810021316231biav6.th.jpg) (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=739015200810021316231biav6.jpg)(http://img233.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 11:08:38 AM
Aha! Im sold!

New area for diving FTW!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 11:12:09 AM
Well then Endless Ocean is a misnomer...

Endless Ocean 2: Now with more Freshness!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 11:15:35 AM
Endless Ocean could be Nintendo's Madden and I'd buy it every year. Change ocean area every year and a 'story' or legend and I'm sold.

Can't wait for Endless Ocean: The Bermuda Triangle
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: D_Average on October 02, 2008, 11:30:31 AM
Until you can harpoon various aquatic life, I'll won't be picking up the game.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 02, 2008, 11:55:37 AM
Games I am excited for:

Punch Out,
Endless Ocean 2 (Now with voice chat...you know it will have it.)
Sin & Punishment 2
Wii Sports 2
Trace Memory 2
Wii ports of Cube games: Mario Tennis, Metroid Prime 1 & 2 (hopefully packaged together), Pikmin 1 & 2 (hopefully packaged together)

Why didn't Nintendo show this at E3?  They would have instantly won E3 with really excitement. 
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: RABicle on October 02, 2008, 11:58:13 AM
Endless Ocean: Ningaloo will dominate.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 12:02:36 PM
Why didn't Nintendo show this at E3?  They would have instantly won E3 with really excitement. 

Because Nintendo doesn't care about "winning" E3...It was an event that the mainstream media would handle, and thus it made more sense to focus on casual games...This sort of event was perfect for the hardcore showing...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 02, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
I hate to inform you all but Luigi Dude is dead.  He woke up to see that Sin and Punishment 2 and a new Punch Out were announced, thought he was still dreaming so you jumped out the window thinking he could fly. 

Only to suddenly realize he wasn't dreaming anymore, falling 30 stories.   He survived the fall only to then be hit by a speeding bus and finally trampled by an escaped Rhinoceros.

 :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:15:31 PM
I need to know what sites will be covering the NOA conference.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 12:19:38 PM
LuigiDude will be missed..

Can i have his avatar? ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Hostile Creation on October 02, 2008, 12:22:09 PM
WHERE CAN I FIND THIS VIDEO

Excellent news, I totally forgot this was today and happened upon the thread just now and WHOAAA.  Some fantastic news.  I never played the original Sin and Punishment but I've heard such good things I'm looking forward to this one (is the original available on VC?  If not, do you think they'll release it with the new one?).  I am most excited about Another Code Wii (I played Trace Memory all in one night, till five in the morning, hopefully this one will last a bit longer) and Mario and Luigi 3 (BEST NEWS).  New DS is cool but I won't be getting it, my current (original) one suits me fine.
I'd like to say more BUT I CANT WITHOUT SEENIG THE VIDEO IT ALL ASOUNDS AWEOMSE

(only disappointment: No Pikmin)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 12:23:27 PM
WHERE CAN I FIND THIS VIDEO

Check the first post... =)

I never played the original Sin and Punishment but I've heard such good things I'm looking forward to this one (is the original available on VC?

YES IT IS!  GET IT NOW!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:29:30 PM
It has started. check out gonintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:30:40 PM
- Denise Kaigler takes the stage

- information is embargoed until Monday, but live blog is permitted

- Reggie takes the stage

- event is all about core, classic, expanded audience, and Wii

- DSi shop service bringing two redesigned Brain Age games

- two cameras confirmed once again

- real time imaging software

- store songs on SD card, uses AAC format

- built-in software for controlling pitch, speed, audio filters, and more

- record voice through mic, and change playback speed and pitch

- all of these camera/music options are pre-loaded

- play sound in games at louder volume

- opera browser reconfirmed

- DSi will not hit North America until ‘well into’ 2009 because the DS Lite is still selling at phenomenal rates. Last year was the best year ever for DS in North America, and this year is going at a rate that’s 22% better.

- 22 million DS units sold in North America

- 23 million DS Units sold in Japan

- Purchase/download WiiWare/VC software directly to SD. Transfer process will become ‘dramatically easier’

- More DS units to be shipped in Oct. Nov, Dec

- More Wii units to be shipped in Oct, Nov, Dec

- Reggie doesn’t know if these allotments will be enough to satiate demand
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:35:10 PM
Talks about Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop. Available Winter 2009.


The Conduit. Available Q1 2009. Cammie called this an "exclusive first-party shooter coming to Wii." We think she meant first-person shooter. Eric Nofsinger demoes the game on-stage. Says the game is still pre-alpha. "Majority of single-player is complete. Primarily in the polish phase." Game looks good, as always. 16-player online. Traditional deathmatches.Majority of single player complete. In the ‘polish phase’. Depth of field being shown off. Focusing on multiplayer using feedback they get from press and fans. All-seeing eye being shown off once again. 16 player multiplayer, focusing on traditional MP modes. 15 enemy types in the game. All-seeing eye can open device and pick locks. Voiceover will be recorded this month. Detail mapping for non-blurry textures. Player can walk right up to textures and they will maintain quality. Talking about the game engine to take advantage of Wii abilities. Z-lock health/range being shown off again. Interactive water, light maps, and more. Normal mapping, blooms, blurs, and a lot more. All feedback is being looked, and possibly incorporated if needed. No publisher announced.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 12:40:51 PM
Cammie called this an "exclusive first-party shooter coming to Wii." We think she meant first-person shooter.

More like Freudian slip!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:45:54 PM
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
DSi release in America Well into 09. LAME

I would want to import it, but knowing Japan it will be sold out the second its available if not cause riots so import houses will probably not get it soon and I'll get it a month before American release because of demand.

I wonder how DS Lite sales will fair this year knowing this is coming next year. I bet more than not most retailers will be hush about it and let DS Lite sell millions.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:51:38 PM
Animal crossing is being shown.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 12:52:49 PM
Importing it isn't a bad idea though.......
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:54:00 PM
Cammie chats about Wii Fit. NOA invited a celebrity trainer to train attendees in Wii Fit.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:57:09 PM
Rhythm Heaven coming to North America for DS in the first half of 2009. Game has sold really well in Japan. Two months after launch, still doing 50,000 units per week.
Sin & Punishment 2. Available 2009. Trailer being shown. Techno music, lots of shooting, giant bird-like enemy being shown. Underwater fights, space fights, and more.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 12:59:04 PM
Four hardcore DS titles: Age of Empires: Mythologies, set for a November 2008 release. Tecmo Bowl, available November 2008. (Can draw your own plays.) Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia, available October 21. And Chrono Trigger, available "Thanksgiving week" 2008.Last live demo of the day. Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon for DS. Available first half of 2009. "For the first time, we're going to have it in North America for the DS. It's also the first-ever in the series to offer multiplayer online play."

Demo follows.Showing a battle of fire emblem DS -- bottom screen always shows the zoomed-out map, all of the information and close-ups are on the top screen.10:01: Game includes "prologue chapters" that were never in the original NES game on which this is based.Full voice chat with friends, not random people.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:11:01 PM
Pokemon Ranger for DS on November 10.
 Henry Hatsworth is at the event, due out early 2009.

- Mario and Luigi RPG 3 - release date is ‘2009′. Bowser joins in with Mario and Luigi. Trailer is being shown. Play as Bowser with Bowser-specific attacks. Control Goombas for major attacks.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
Introducing a new way to communicate with friends and family. WiiSpeak Channel. Arrives November 16. You can use the microphone up to four groups of people at once. When you buy WiiSpeak, you will receive a ticker which allows you to download the channel at no charge.

Announcing Club.Nintendo for America!

This program allows Nintendo consumers to gather points and trade them in for a wide variety of exclusive Nintendo rewards. Will debut in North America by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:15:30 PM
IT is over.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: stevey on October 02, 2008, 01:16:02 PM
Quote
Announcing Club.Nintendo for America!

This program allows Nintendo consumers to gather points and trade them in for a wide variety of exclusive Nintendo rewards. Will debut in North America by the end of the year.

HELL YEAH!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:17:24 PM
So what did everbody think?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 01:17:55 PM
CLUB NINTENDO!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 01:18:16 PM
Quote
Announcing Club.Nintendo for America!

This program allows Nintendo consumers to gather points and trade them in for a wide variety of exclusive Nintendo rewards. Will debut in North America by the end of the year.

HELL YEAH!

FTW. YEAHH!!

Wait did they not talk about Disaster Day of Crisis or was I not paying close enough attention.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Stogi on October 02, 2008, 01:18:53 PM
I couldn't be happier except for the DSi coming out next november
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 01:24:59 PM
Vega they didn't talk about it but there is lots of info already.
I am going to put all of the live blogs so everybody can see what happened.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915544p1.html
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html
http://gonintendo.com/?p=58025
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 02, 2008, 01:30:03 PM
Alright Club Nintendo!  About time!

Nintendo needs to be more subtle about blatantly jerking people around.  North America doesn't get the DSi until well into 2009 for what reason?  Because the Lite is still selling?  So in other words you're withholding the superior product for as long as possible so that ignorant people that don't follow online videogame news will continue to buy a soon-to-be obsolete product.  Okay every company does this stuff but don't announce it to everyone.  Don't be so open and giddy about being a jerk.  Make up some lie.  It's like the "we're not going to lower prices" announcements.  Don't TELL us that, just do it and hope we don't notice.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 02, 2008, 01:44:41 PM
I'm pretty damn happy right now.  The only thing saddening is that I have to wait a while for alot of the stuff.

DSi, expanded SD use and Punchout!! are the biggest hurrays from me.  S&P 2 is a nice surprise, so is the slew of other nintendo games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 02, 2008, 01:47:06 PM
Nintendo redeemed.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 02, 2008, 01:49:38 PM
So in other words you're withholding the superior product for as long as possible so that ignorant people that don't follow online videogame news will continue to buy a soon-to-be obsolete product.

I think there's still a place for the DS lite even after the new model is released. Hopefully Nintendo will drop the price to at least the $99 milestone. And remember, the Lite has an edge over the DSi when it comes to battery life, as well as the ability to play GBA carts. I think the Lite makes a more logical choice for kids especially, because it doesn't have the camera and all that stuff which kids end up breaking anyway.

So my guess is Nintendo will probably still be manufacturing Lites alongside DSi units, at least for awhile anyway. The better battery life, ability to play GBA carts, and (hopefully) lowered costs are all strong incentives for owning one.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 02, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
2)  Dynamic Slash is being developed by Sandlot (Earth Defense Force)

**** YES INSTABUY!

I've been trying to figure out what they've been doing all this time since the Chou Soujuu Mecha MG and EDF3 releases.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 02, 2008, 02:16:58 PM
KDR:  That is exciting, but I want Earth Defense Force Wii.  That game is my must have.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 02, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
Wii is the new platform for fantasy swordy-swishy?

TALK ABOUT HARDCOOR
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 02, 2008, 02:24:20 PM
Fucking Club Nintendo,

Will customers who've already amassed tons of games get retroactive Club points or do we have to buy more of Nintendo's CRAP to get started?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 02, 2008, 02:26:44 PM
Fucking Club Nintendo,

Will customers who've already amassed tons of games get retroactive Club points or do we have to buy more of Nintendo's CRAP to get started?

Yeah exactly. I literally have about 100 games registered and I'm pretty certain that I'm going to get dicked on getting stars/points for all of that stuff. I guess I could always just call Customer Service and bitch up a storm.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Caliban on October 02, 2008, 02:27:49 PM
Great. More titles for me to collect.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 02, 2008, 02:37:44 PM
I bet the US version of Club Nintendo won't suck as much as the European one, simply because NoA doesn't hate you guys as much.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
Thoughts:

- I'm totally psyched for Club Nintendo.
- Sin & Punishment 2?  Awesome.
- Wii Speak Channel is brilliant.
- DSi is a day one purchase for me.
- Thank goodness they're going to streamline the SD Card file transfer interface.  It's so stupid that copying and erasing a game is two separate steps.  Give us a "Move" button that does both of those tasks at once, please.
- Fire Emblem with voice chat is really cool.  Hopefully more games will use this in the future.
- Mario & Luigi 3 is great news.

Questions:

- Has there been any confirmation that we'll be able to PLAY games off of the SD Card?  What I've seen so far has been all about being able to download directly to the SD Card.
- Treasure is developing S&P 2, right?  I haven't seen this outright confirmed.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 02, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
When you buy WiiSpeak, you will receive a ticker which allows you to download the channel at no charge.

Finally, proof that they can provide vouchers.  From the beginning, I hoped Nintendo would do this kind of thing for, say, pre-order bonuses.  Now I know it's technically possible, so I can get all whiny about it.

Will customers who've already amassed tons of games get retroactive Club points or do we have to buy more of Nintendo's CRAP to get started?

That's why I've never registered a thing with them before.  Now I'm going to pile all of my games together and do the McDuck stroke.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 02:56:13 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion these will be new codes that only come with new games and we'll all have to start from scratch.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: vudu on October 02, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
- Treasure is developing S&P 2, right?  I haven't seen this outright confirmed.

I was coming in here to ask the exact same question.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 02, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
It appears that the GCN games being rereleased for Wii might actually be ports after all (I had seen people talking as if these were simply the GameCube games in new packaging).  Take a look at the screen shot for Jungle Beat (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media.cfm?artid=16831&MedTID=1&sArtID=16833).  Or did I miss an announcement for a Wii sequel to that game?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 02, 2008, 04:09:26 PM
Look under the cap for Nintendo club points to redeem online for MP3s and more!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 02, 2008, 04:14:37 PM
- Has there been any confirmation that we'll be able to PLAY games off of the SD Card?  What I've seen so far has been all about being able to download directly to the SD Card.

This is the big one on my mind as well, but Nintendo has seriously fucking redeemed itself with this conference.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 02, 2008, 04:18:36 PM
THIS IS THE PIKMIN ANNOUNCED AT E3

And yeah GameCube games getting widecreen options and real Wii Remote control shoe-horning.  Much better than Capcom's RE-ports of the RE Cube games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 02, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
Wasn't the Wii version of RE4 the best one?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 02, 2008, 04:24:12 PM
THIS IS THE PIKMIN ANNOUNCED AT E3

And yeah GameCube games getting widecreen options and real Wii Remote control shoe-horning.  Much better than Capcom's RE-ports of the RE Cube games.

I suspected as much when I saw the widescreen Pikmin shot, but couldn't remember for certain whether the game originally supported widescreen.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
- Treasure is developing S&P 2, right?  I haven't seen this outright confirmed.

I was coming in here to ask the exact same question.

Yes, they are... :cool;
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 04:44:18 PM
Vega they didn't talk about it but there is lots of info already.
I am going to put all of the live blogs so everybody can see what happened.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915544p1.html
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html
http://gonincompoop/?p=58025

I'm talking about a FIRM US release date, I know about the game. I haven't seen anything about it coming to the US yet. It is coming to Europe this month, already out in Japan I don't see why no release date for America yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 04:55:05 PM
First glimpse of the main character(?) in the next Tales game...

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4283/79270nin326122682lokq3.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=79270nin326122682lokq3.jpg)

He looks a lot like Suzaku from Code Geass...

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Assorted/R2Suzaku.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 02, 2008, 05:53:09 PM
Yes, they are... :cool;

BRING IT ON
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 02, 2008, 05:55:23 PM
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/689772/Exclusive_XPlay_Reggie_FilsAime_Interview.html

interview with the regginatior.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: redgiemental on October 02, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
I was all excited about this but now I hear that THIS is the Pikmin game that I've been looking forward to and not I'm honestly a bit bummed about that.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 06:02:42 PM
I was all excited about this but now I hear that THIS is the Pikmin game that I've been looking forward to and not I'm honestly a bit bummed about that.

is that confirmed in that interview?? (cant watch the interview, no sound on my work computer)?

I thought that was just fan speculation
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 02, 2008, 06:07:42 PM
is that confirmed in that interview?? (cant watch the interview, no sound on my work computer)?


No, I haven't read that confirmation anywhere.  It'll make me happy if they re-release pikmin 2, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 06:09:15 PM
I agree. Pikmin 2 costs wayy to much
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 06:27:28 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion these will be new codes that only come with new games and we'll all have to start from scratch.
That's how it worked in Australia, but that was the first time we were able to register games in any way as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 06:32:00 PM
I wouldnt mind a pikmin 2 re-release with wii controls (since i only recently enjoyed Pikmin 1 and never played 2) but it would be a bummer if a 2nd sequel wasnt coming out.

Speaking of the cube re-releases (wiimakes), how does everyone feel about them?

The Metroid Prime 'wiimakes' have me conflicted. On one hand i'd love to experience the games with wii's control but on the other hand i wouldnt want to pay full price for games i've played before. If they re-released 1 and 2 as a set (not sure if it could be on 1 disc..) for $40 that'd be ideal and i might consider picking them up once more but still.. i'm just not sure if its really worth it, ya know?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 06:37:14 PM
I have both metroid prime and MP2. I would buy it on the Wii preferably on 1 disc for 40 to 50 dollars.I am OK with the Wiimake of Cube games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: King of Twitch on October 02, 2008, 06:38:03 PM
Since they are an And company they should leave the option for cube controls in there alongside waggle
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 06:54:54 PM
I'm over the moon at the Chibi Robo re-release because I could never get the original anywhere, wasn't released here and the game cost a million dollars to import from Europe.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Kairon on October 02, 2008, 07:22:03 PM
The original Pikmin remade would be HEAVEN.

Also, KILLER 7.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 07:30:46 PM
Man Reggie does come off as a jerk in the beginning of that interview...

"Are you worried people won't buy a DS Lite because they will wait for the DSi?"

"Well how long do they want to wait, we are launching it for like ever!  We don't think you can hold out that long!"

Obviously that's not a direct quote, but still.  I kind of wish he could have been a stand-up guy and said something like...

"For those fans that want the features of the DSi, we are fine with them waiting for the latest technology, but we think there is a large segment of our audience that will get all they need out of the DS Lite."
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
The original Pikmin remade would be HEAVEN.

Also, KILLER 7.

No remake 2 since so few have it!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 02, 2008, 08:00:28 PM
I'm over the moon at the Chibi Robo re-release because I could never get the original anywhere, wasn't released here and the game cost a million dollars to import from Europe.

Chibi Robo would be worth a rerelease. That game was a ninja-hit in that you NEVER saw it coming until you were neck-deep in awesome.

And as for the subject, games in dire need of a rerelease on Wii:

Eternal Darkness: Didn't get even a fraction of the attention it deserved on the GC.

MGS: Twin Snakes: Considering his inclusion in Brawl, Snake may as well have a game on the Wii.

Geist: Yet another game that didn't get the attention it deserved.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 08:02:12 PM
What about Odama?


Some info from Cammie Dunaway

“Well, it’s just that we roll out things at different times and so we chose to talk about some of the ones that we are committed to rolling out in 2009, but there is some other stuff that we’re still taking a look at…As I said, we’ve just selected ones that we’ve already made commitments to. We weren’t trying to show our full lineup for the first part of 2009.”- Referring to Disaster: Day of Crisis in North America

“No details yet. Actually, I’m kind of interested to see all the buzz that’ll probably be out there about what kind of prices we should be offering [laughs]. Hopefully that gives me some good ideas…you will be able to bring over some of the points, but we’re still figuring out how it’s going to work. It’s not necessarily going to be all of them.” - On Club Nintendo

“It’s not the Pikmin that Mr. Miyamoto referred to, no. Mr. Miyamoto referred to a new Pikmin, as opposed to the classics that are being rereleased on Wii.” - Referring to a new Pikmin (the re-releases were not what Miyamoto was referring to back at E3, so yes, there is a new Pikmin on the way)

“We don’t know the timing yet, but as Reggie said, it’s going to enable a much more seamless use of the SD card, which is pretty bulky and complicated today. And you’ll be able to save from the Virtual Console straight to the SD card. So we’re excited to hear it.” - On the Wii storage solution

“Our strategy is always to find a variety of games that appeal to a variety of types of players. To utilize what’s working well in Japan and to work with second-parties here to develop new franchises that may be unique to the U.S. And to keep working with third-parties. We wanted to highlight primarily the things that are coming for this holiday season because we wanted to make sure we’re getting the word out about our holiday titles. But we also wanted to give a peek at some of the things that are coming in 2009. Our peek is by no means meant to be an exhaustive list.” - On the software lineup, games shown in Japan

“I know, it is kind of quiet down there. No, no news to announce right now. They’re always working hard. Yeah, they are working hard, I’ll tell you that.” - Referring to Retro Studios
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Caliban on October 02, 2008, 08:17:48 PM
In regards to these GC rereleases I think it's a good idea for those that did not have the opportunity to play them, but for me I'm a bit undecided about them. I loved them on the GC, yet the prospect of some of these games running in widescreen is definitely a characteristic that entices me to see these worlds with a wider view.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 02, 2008, 09:01:40 PM
The Metroid Prime 'wiimakes' have me conflicted. On one hand i'd love to experience the games with wii's control but on the other hand i wouldnt want to pay full price for games i've played before. If they re-released 1 and 2 as a set (not sure if it could be on 1 disc..) for $40 that'd be ideal and i might consider picking them up once more but still.. i'm just not sure if its really worth it, ya know?

GC discs could hold 1.5gb and Wii discs can hold 4.7gb and more with dual layering. So surely that'd mean they could get MP1 and MP2 on one disc. I doubt Nintendo would do that though.

The best remake for me would be Chibi Robo as I have pretty much everything else I could have wanted from the GC era.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 09:40:05 PM
Just thought I would let everybody know that the conference tomorrow will be about Wiiware.It will start at 9:00 am sharp.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: Mario on October 02, 2008, 10:03:38 PM
Whoa what, another conference? Awesome!

There's absolutely no way i'd ever buy one of those wiimakes if I own the original. It's the same game, they are just being released on the Wii system. I think it's great they're being released but they are aimed at people new to Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference (9:30 AM PST, 12:30 PM EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 10:08:47 PM
I found a video of the Japan Conference. You can find it here  (http://www.irwebcasting.com/081002/34/36e60ea959/d4c5000436_hi.html)

Mario there is one.According to Gonintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 02, 2008, 10:13:29 PM
we're all in the nintendo army now.   we get recruiter bonus!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 10:19:43 PM
MGS: Twin Snakes: Considering his inclusion in Brawl, Snake may as well have a game on the Wii.
You actually want a port of a 4 year old remake of a 10 year old game? Ugh.... Nintendo deserves a new Metal Gear title for their generosity.....
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Hostile Creation on October 02, 2008, 10:48:25 PM
Just got around to watching all those videos.

Mario and Luigi looks ACE.  I will definitely be getting that, as well as Another Code Wii, Sin and Punishment 2 (although I should probably play the original first, so I'll get that when I can), and maybe some other stuff.  Endless Ocean sequel looks good, but that's another case of maybe I should try the original first.  Space game looks interesting, too.

I need to find time to play games.  I am so busy, it's no good.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 11:10:37 PM
Quote
IGN: Disaster: Day of Crisis. It's out in Japan and has a European release date. We thought you guys would make it official for Americans today, but you didn't. What's going on there?

Cammie Dunaway: Well, it's just that we roll out things at different times and so we chose to talk about some of the ones that we are committed to rolling out in 2009, but there is some other stuff that we're still taking a look at.

IGN: So does that mean that Disaster is officially not going to come out in America this year?

Cammie Dunaway: No, it doesn't mean that. As I said, we've just selected ones that we've already made commitments to. We weren't trying to show our full lineup for the first part of 2009.

 Source  (http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915864p1.html)

I'm confused. Why not have a release date for the game and show it to americans.


Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2008, 11:17:18 PM
They...haven't?  If you are talking about the game having English voices, that's how the game was developed...There are no Japanese voices in the Japanese version of the game as far as I know...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 02, 2008, 11:20:42 PM
Quote
“It’s not the Pikmin that Mr. Miyamoto referred to, no. Mr. Miyamoto referred to a new Pikmin, as opposed to the classics that are being rereleased on Wii.” - Referring to a new Pikmin (the re-releases were not what Miyamoto was referring to back at E3, so yes, there is a new Pikmin on the way)

Oh thank God.

I initially thought the idea was to re-release Cube games as actual Cube games and advertise them with a campaign promoting backwards compatibility.  That's a cool idea.  But actual ports?  That's lame.  That's a waste of resources.  And it's a rip-off too.  They're relying on people to (this seems to be a trend) be ignorant of these games already being playable on the Wii.  They're relying on Nintendo nuts who just can't say "no" to repurchase games they already own for minor additions.  Its the same crap that all the third parties do where they repackage a last-gen game, add waggle and pass it off as a Wii game.  At least then it's usually for PS2 games that aren't playable on the Wii.  These games are.

If anyone else did this would their fans accept it?  If Sony was making PS3 ports of PS2 games or PS2 ports of PS1 games would that be acceptable?  What if Nintendo had done this with the DS and dedicated resources to "updating" GBA games?

And what about all this talk about innovation and new controller standards?  These games were designed with a different controller in mind.  This isn't good use of the remote.  Why does it seem like the whole purpose of the Wii is to repackage last gen games?

I feel very relieved though that this isn't the Pikmin game.  And if you don't own Pikmin 2 then by all means pick it up.  I can't vouch for how it will control but the core game is awesome.  Might as well get it in some form.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Dasmos on October 02, 2008, 11:22:55 PM
(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/16831/1/1.jpg)

Okay, what have they done to my game? Why is there life hearts? Please don't tell me they're porting all these games over and just ruining each and every one of them.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 02, 2008, 11:23:47 PM
So if you want to play a retooled Pikmin for better accuracy and rebuy it, then it is a bad thing? Come on Ian. I'm rebuying it because I never liked controlling the game with standard controls. There is NOTHING wrong with giving people a chance to either play it for the first time with this remake or for those who have played it to experience it in another way.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 02, 2008, 11:52:31 PM
Quote
So if you want to play a retooled Pikmin for better accuracy and rebuy it, then it is a bad thing? Come on Ian. I'm rebuying it because I never liked controlling the game with standard controls. There is NOTHING wrong with giving people a chance to either play it for the first time with this remake or for those who have played it to experience it in another way.

I never get this complaint about the controls with Pikmin.  Ditto with Metroid Prime.  Well I kind of do but I assume whoever complains about them plays the game for five minutes and gives up because they don't control like a PC RTS or FPS.  They don't need to.  It isn't like Pikmin is Starcraft shoehorned into a console controller.  It was designed with that controller in mind.  Same with Metroid Prime.  Sure you can say that Metroid Prime 3 controls better but that game was designed for those controls.  The balance will be all wonky if you change the controls for these games.  You notice it in Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes.  It incorporates elements introduced in Metal Gear Solid 2.  BUT the game wasn't designed for those elements so some things that were originally a challenge are now super easy.  The change affected the balance of the game.  Pikmin controls quite well but may be thrown out of whack with different controls.  Some previous routine things might become stubbornly difficult while other hard parts become easy.

But anyway my main beef is simple.  The Wii library is FULL of rehashed last gen games.  When I buy a new console I want NEW games.  That's the point.  But instead I get tons of rehashes.  Why?  Because people buy those rehashes so the publishers think "hey why bother releasing NEW stuff when the marks will just by re-released old games."  This is why third party support on the Wii sucks.  This is why we never got a 2D sprite based Mario sidescroller on the GBA.  There was no need because people who already owned the old games would justify paying full price to buy them again for a few small changes.

Nintendo's big Wii launch game was a repackaged Cube game.  When someone complains about a thin game lineup Nintendo points to remakes as if they're acceptable substitutes for real games.  Now if they didn't do that then what do I care?  I want old games to be available for those that missed them the first time.  But that's not usually how it works.

I don't have a problem with the VC and I wouldn't have a problem if Nintendo merely re-released Cube games at a Player's Choice price point and emphasized the Wii backwards compatibility.  I don't mind retro comps or when sequels are later made in a packaged set for a discount (RE Cube bundle, various PS2 collections like GTA, Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid).  In those cases it's like a deal for the customer.  They get a chance to pick up an out-of-print classic at a low price.  But this isn't that.

When you buy repackaged old games at new game prices you give publishers the idea that this in place of new content is acceptable.  And that screws me over so I'm going to b!tch about it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Adrock on October 03, 2008, 12:06:56 AM
No More Heroes.

Also, if you want new games, you're getting them. I can understand your disappointment, but the Wii is finally getting some respect.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 03, 2008, 12:16:35 AM
I hate we are getting rehashes like Punch Out, Sin and Punishment 2, and Conduit. Those remade games sure stifle new games! ;)


Seriously this is an argument that has little validity, especially when it comes to porting games over. These games take little development time or money and usually fund other projects. If you haven't noticed the trend for Wii is going towards non-ports of last generation games but new titles whether they are multiplatform or exclusive. It does NOT hurt to have games like a retooled Pikmin or Jungle Beat out on the market (which, I might add are more than compilation esque games. These go a step further. Not only that but we have no idea what they will cost, chances are they will be budget titles in the 19.99-29.99 dollar range.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Caliban on October 03, 2008, 12:32:14 AM
I wonder how these re-releases will fair with gaming reviewers.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 03, 2008, 12:39:12 AM
I wonder how these re-releases will fair with gaming reviewers.

My guess is that it will be similar to how RE4 for Wii was received. A bit lower than the original score but not by much (unless they are broken of course)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2008, 01:48:02 AM
Ian, keep in mind the Gamecube wasn't really a very popular system by any stretch, so this means there are tons and tons of people who have NEVER played games like Pikmin even once. So for them, it isn't really a matter of rebuying an old game, because to them its entirely new. If you are one of those who own the old Pikmin then I can see your point, but you are in a minority. Most gamers have not played Pikmin, and since you love the franchise so much you should see how this is a great thing Nintendo is doing here.

By introducing the games to the larger Wii audience, Nintendo is promoting and building up the franchise's popularity, and this will help ensure the franchise sees more sequels in the future. And personally, I think the franchise is very well suited for the DS platform. Hopefully Nintendo will port it over there at some point.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Caliban on October 03, 2008, 02:39:38 AM
I wonder how these re-releases will fair with gaming reviewers.

My guess is that it will be similar to how RE4 for Wii was received. A bit lower than the original score but not by much (unless they are broken of course)

Yeah I guess, but these games aren't from Capcom and it will be interesting to see Nintendo's approach to their wiimake titles and reviews thereafter.
Still I think this is a great moment for gamers of all types to get a broader selection of games that they most likely missed the first time around.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 03, 2008, 04:11:26 AM
I'd rather have a port than use backwards compatibility since that way the game works better with the system's features (e.g. not having to use the tiny GC memcards, being able to use the system's 60Hz setting, possibly pointer-navigated menus, ...)

Quote
Nintendo's big Wii launch game was a repackaged Cube game.

Actually it was Wii Sports, Zelda was just a decoy to pacify the core. Wii Sports is still popular, Zelda has almost been forgotten.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: redgiemental on October 03, 2008, 08:47:02 AM
As long as they are still making a new Pikmin all is good.

I literally just bought Pikmin 2 just over a month ago. I like the GC controls though so I'm ok with it I guess.

I'll be interested to see how the controls work out for the Pikmin rerelease.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
I hate we are getting rehashes like Punch Out, Sin and Punishment 2, and Conduit. Those remade games sure stifle new games! ;)


Seriously this is an argument that has little validity, especially when it comes to porting games over. These games take little development time or money and usually fund other projects. If you haven't noticed the trend for Wii is going towards non-ports of last generation games but new titles whether they are multiplatform or exclusive. It does NOT hurt to have games like a retooled Pikmin or Jungle Beat out on the market (which, I might add are more than compilation esque games. These go a step further. Not only that but we have no idea what they will cost, chances are they will be budget titles in the 19.99-29.99 dollar range.

GP has a point Ian. You're only complaining about the re-releases nintendo put out but you're ignoring the new games we're getting, probably only for the sake of argument. Notice that the re-releases weren't a big part of the conference, its not like they showed them off and how they'll impliment wii controls. No, instead of that they showed off NEW games and sequels to old games that are new again because of what they can bring to the table with Wii's controls.

Gp's only flaw in her post was pointing out 2 sequels and a brand new title, because I'm sure you'll trying to argue that sequels don't count as new games. Well let me remind you of the new IPs like Moon Walker and Dynamic Slash (or wathever they're called) and maybe a few more i'm forgetting. But you'll probably just say these don't count and come up with some crazy reasoning behind it huh?

Anyway, if you're still reading and to summarize my point: The GC re-releases aren't Nintendos sole focus here, so why nitpick as if they are?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 11:18:16 AM
Anyway, if you're still reading and to summarize my point: The GC re-releases aren't Nintendos sole focus here, so why nitpick as if they are?

Icing baby, icing. The GC releases are tasty icing on an already delicious cake.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 03, 2008, 11:22:49 AM
I agree with Nick and EasyCure.  I don't think the re-releases are anything to complain about.  They're like a side project.  They don't enhance the Wii library in any meaningful way (since you can just play the GameCube versions if you want), but they don't hurt it either.  I'm glad that some of the more overlooked GameCube games are going to get exposure to a much larger audience.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2008, 11:26:10 AM
Anyway, if you're still reading and to summarize my point: The GC re-releases aren't Nintendos sole focus here, so why nitpick as if they are?

Icing baby, icing. The GC releases are tasty icing on an already delicious cake.

Ecactly, and who doesnt like Icing on a cake?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 11:33:37 AM
Communists.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: King of Twitch on October 03, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
Diabetics
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 03, 2008, 11:40:36 AM
"In America, you put icing on cake.  In Russia, cake put icing on YOU"
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2008, 11:49:27 AM
Diabetics

Its not that they dont like icing, they just can't have any.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 11:50:19 AM
"In America, you put icing on cake.  In Russia, cake put icing on YOU"

Sounds hot.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Caliban on October 03, 2008, 11:56:16 AM
Ecactly, and who doesnt like Icing on a cake?

Icing sugar and Royal icing is completely unacceptable, and icing, or frosting itself is acceptable within reasonable bakery choices. In fact I can say that any Pastry chef that uses Icing sugar should be stripped of his title as chef. Great pastries are done with non-processed products. /rant

Communists.

Maybe they just can't afford to have sugar.

Diabetics

QFT.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 11:57:30 AM
So anybody know a liveblog for today's conference?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2008, 11:59:00 AM
"In America, you put icing on cake.  In Russia, cake put icing on YOU"

Sounds hot.

You wouldn't think so if it was this (http://www.smrpglegacy.com/Nintendo%20Pictures/Super%20Mario%20RPG/bundt%20oficial.jpg) cake
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 03, 2008, 12:01:53 PM
Do we get any new info today, like impressions and play videos, or is it all embargoed until next week?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 03, 2008, 12:03:10 PM
Do we get any new info today, like impressions and play videos, or is it all embargoed until next week?

ign said they are embargoed until monday.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference - NOA conference Part II (9 AM PST, Noon EST)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:04:12 PM
My Jack Gonintendo is having one.I am just setting up.So I will try to find another one.Shy Guy the Embargo will be lifted on Monday.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:13:09 PM
- Marc Franklin chatting about WiiWare

- 33 games on WiiWare thus far in North America

- Tetris Party being shown off. If there is any new info, I will let you know.Field Climber mode has a little man that climbs the Tetriminos, and the goal is to build him something to reach the top of the screen. A pretty cool idea.Stage Racer gives you one piece that you have to navigate through a scrolling stage by spinning the piece.Tetris Party is coming ‘very soon’ and will be a global release. 1200 Wii Points.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 12:14:02 PM
Thanks Maxi, watching GoNintendo's out of desperation.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 03, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
I agree with Nick and EasyCure.  I don't think the re-releases are anything to complain about.  They're like a side project.  They don't enhance the Wii library in any meaningful way (since you can just play the GameCube versions if you want), but they don't hurt it either.  I'm glad that some of the more overlooked GameCube games are going to get exposure to a much larger audience.

And Lindy ignores me. Sad :(
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 12:24:37 PM
Anybody wanna hit up the chatango (http://nintendoworldreport.chatango.com)? Me and Maxi are in there now...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:25:57 PM
- Boingz is being shown off. Grab antennas to fling the boingz around the level. Puzzle platformer. Each level has multiple boingz that you need to use in order to solve puzzles. Game is entirely physics based, with puzzles having multiple solutions.

- World of Goo will hit WiiWare on October 13th
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 03, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
Quote
You're only complaining about the re-releases nintendo put out but you're ignoring the new games we're getting, probably only for the sake of argument.

I'll admit a big part of it is because of how things worked on the GBA.  It pretty much killed my trust of Nintendo remakes or ports.  We never got a new 2D Mario platformer.  Why?  Because Nintendo just re-released each classic Mario game so they never felt the need to make a new game.  In the end we got New Super Mario Bros but we had to wait for a new portable and it's also 2.5D.  The sprite based Mario platformer is likely never going to happen because people ate up ports.  In 2002 the only Nintendo first party GBA game that wasn't a port was Metroid Fusion.  Damn awesome game but a whole year and only one new GBA game from Nintendo?  Unacceptable.  I didn't buy a GBA to play SNES games I already owned but for a little while that's what Nintendo was giving me.

Nintendo likes ports.  They have historically treated ports as if they "count" as new games.  So I don't trust them.

Plus there is the Star Wars: Special Edition problem.  When companies release new versions of a classic game they rarely also offer up the original.  Like when Square Enix releases the classic Final Fantasy games on the GBA and DS.  Hey these enhanced versions are there for people who want it.  Sounds fine in theory.  But is the original on the VC?  No.  The original remains out-of-print because they're afraid it will cut into sales of the new one.  When Kirby Superstar Ultra was announced the first thing I saw on this forum was concern that the original wouldn't appear on the VC and it probably won't.  You have to get the new version or hunt around on eBay.  Are these Wii-makes going to offer the original game as well?  Probably not.  Want Pikmin 2 the way it was designed to be played?  Tough luck.  Go on eBay and pay a premium.  As someone who is interested in the history of videogame I find it all very annoying, when any company does it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 01:20:52 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915956p1.html
http://gonintendo.com/?p=58087
^Some live blogs for those that might have missed it
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: TheFleece on October 03, 2008, 01:28:18 PM
Alright alright- my head is spinning from all the stuff that's been shown yesterday and somewhat a little of today- but spinning nonetheless!
I feel over all the info is great news, but I'm happiest about the Nintendo Club- I hope they send some recognition over to players whoh registered all their crap and got nothing but desktop backgrounds, but I don't expect Nintendo to do anything like that.
I'm most upset about the DSi coming out next month in Japan and here in a year- I just bought a silver DS lite and I would gladly sell it to import the DSi. I read some stuff about it having a region lock, is that true? It could be possible to keep the downloads of DSi points to some sort of minimum so I can see that happening, but is there any official word about it?
I'm for GameCube remakes as long as they're packaged together and priced cheaper than new games. I have Pikmin, but not Pikmin 2- I've tried looking for it and soon gave up so I'm excited to see the series come back and allow people to get familiar with it again.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Dasmos on October 03, 2008, 02:16:23 PM
But honestly, eveyone bypassed my post, but it proves that the're not just reworking the controls of the game, they're re-tooling the whole game. Jungle Beat didn't have any health points, and by adding them it's basically changing the whole dynamic of the game.

I don't like that.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like
Post by: Mario on October 03, 2008, 02:20:41 PM
Yeah, I can't imagine how it'll work. And how does that guy only have 49 beats up to that point. If you don't lose beats by getting hurt (lose hearts instead), it'll make the game a lot weaker, and new players wont appreciate and understand it as much.

I think a cool game to Wiimake would be Super Smash Bros Melee. Imagine how cool Super Smash Bros would be with Wii controls. LOL
Quote
Want Pikmin 2 the way it was designed to be played?  Tough luck.  Go on eBay and pay a premium.
In my opinion it's really tough **** that you didn't buy it when it came out. That's directed not at you but those people who would complain about that. Support games at their prime. BUY DE BLOB LOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Dasmos on October 03, 2008, 02:31:00 PM
Yeah, 49 beats by that point is horrendous. I'm really dreading the outpout of this game on the Wii. I can see how they can replicate the "drumming", but the "clapping" has to be done by a button, which again will ruin the whole game.

Also I can't even fathom how there can be a loss of a heart by that stage of the level. If I'm remebering correctly, there's only one enemy before that point of the level, and it can't damage you. This really has me worried.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 03, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
When it comes down to it, you need to own that game on the GC. Just like the shitty racing game they moved over to Wii, the entire allure was gone when the drumming was replaced with aggravating waggle.

The two control structures engage you in completely different ways, as such the applications of each are different.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Dasmos on October 03, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
I think they need to pick the right games to port over. By the looks of it Jungle Beat is ruined, it's shouldn't have been considered if they're going to change the core gameplay. But I think a game like Pikmin can really benefit from Wii controls. Pikmin was born to be played on Wii, and I hope the "Wii-make" proves this.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 03, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
Quote
But honestly, eveyone bypassed my post, but it proves that the're not just reworking the controls of the game, they're re-tooling the whole game. Jungle Beat didn't have any health points, and by adding them it's basically changing the whole dynamic of the game.

It also shows they're putting a lot more work into this then they really need to.  Hypothetically the effort put towards these Wiimakes could be put towards new games - particularly when they could just re-release the Cube versions, advertise backwards compatibility and make sure Cube controllers and memory cards are in stores.

It also shows that Nintendo can never resist tinkering which is why I can't stand their re-releases.  Even little things like Link having a voice in the GBA version of LttP drives me nuts.  Thankfully the VC now makes the real version easy to get.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 03, 2008, 02:53:09 PM
Quote
But honestly, eveyone bypassed my post, but it proves that the're not just reworking the controls of the game, they're re-tooling the whole game. Jungle Beat didn't have any health points, and by adding them it's basically changing the whole dynamic of the game.

It also shows they're putting a lot more work into this then they really need to.  Hypothetically the effort put towards these Wiimakes could be put towards new games - particularly when they could just re-release the Cube versions, advertise backwards compatibility and make sure Cube controllers and memory cards are in stores.

It also shows that Nintendo can never resist tinkering which is why I can't stand their re-releases.  Even little things like Link having a voice in the GBA version of LttP drives me nuts.  Thankfully the VC now makes the real version easy to get.

Thankfully not many people think like you. Really this argument about Nintendo could "theoretically" be making other games is just as silly now as in the past. Nintendo is HUGE and they can make many games at once and these games more than likely use minimal resources. The same applies to any big publisher like EA, Take-Two, THQ, etc etc, they can actually multitask.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2008, 03:11:13 PM
True. Sprucing up an old game and porting it over to new hardware can't be as resource demanding as making a new game from scratch. Can it? Nintendo is an extremely massive and wealthy (especially lately) game developer, and they have no problem doing all that they do simultaneously.

Following Ian's logic, maybe Nintendo should just drop out of the hardware business so they have more resources to focus on new Video games...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: vudu on October 03, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Also I can't even fathom how there can be a loss of a heart by that stage of the level. If I'm remebering correctly, there's only one enemy before that point of the level, and it can't damage you. This really has me worried.

Maybe the hearts are the enemy's life meter?  This way you know how strong the enemy is so you can properly time when to end your attack.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: IceCold on October 03, 2008, 07:44:02 PM
But honestly, eveyone bypassed my post, but it proves that the're not just reworking the controls of the game, they're re-tooling the whole game. Jungle Beat didn't have any health points, and by adding them it's basically changing the whole dynamic of the game.

I don't like that.

Neither. But I probably won't be buying it - even if they didn't make those changes the bongos are just way more satisfying. I'm just disappointed that so many people will judge the game on the Wii controls rather than how it was supposed to be played.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 09:36:23 PM
Chris Kohler interviews Cammie Dunaway


Wired.com: A friend of mine was asking: Now that Nintendo has expanded its sales and marketing team into San Francisco, when might we get a Nintendo World store in the city?

Cammie Dunaway: Interesting question. Certainly not something that we’re working on right now. New York has been a great flagship store for us, we do a lot of events there. So, no plans. But, good idea.

Wired.com: The DSi. Nintendo has traditionally not added things like cameras or music players to its consoles because it concentrates on game play. And where Sony went off the rails with PSP and opened the door for Nintendo, it put too much of that into PSP. How is the DSi not a red-ocean product?

Dunaway: It's very much centered in gaming experiences and interactive entertainment experiences. What we like to do is make things fun, and so when you start taking pictures and superimposing people’s faces onto someone else's body, and surrounding it with graffiti and sharing it with a friend, it’s just fun. I think we’ll see people do interesting things with it, incorporating the functionality into games. Gaming has to be at the heart of it.

Wired.com: Is Nintendo going to introduce retail cartridge software that's only playable on the DSi?

Dunaway: There are no plans, no announcements right now. But certainly, as we've historically done, you’ll see us do interesting things with software to take advantage of the hardware capabilities. As Mr. Iwata talked about last night, this new memo pad is one of the cool technologies. It's not necessarily a game, but it certainly enables people to act as an animator and use their photographs in an interesting and entertaining way.

Wired.com: So right now, the only DSi-only software is downloadable.

Dunaway: Right, the Brain Age games, etc.

Wired.com: Will that be region-locked? Can I buy a U.S. DSi and access the software that Japanese consumers can download?

Dunaway: I believe that just as you can currently buy a DS in Japan and use it here in the U.S., that you should be able to do that with DSi.

Wired.com: Travelers buy portable gaming systems overseas a lot.

Dunaway: Exactly, I carry around my Ice Blue DS because I like the color, and I could find it in Japan and couldn’t find it here.

Wired.com: The Nintendo DS Lite. I think the big question is: Is the DSi a product that’s going to sit on shelves next to the DS Lite, or is it a replacement for the DS Lite?

Dunaway: Right now we’re still working through what the strategy's going to be here. But we think that there's huge untapped potential for the DS Lite. Because when you’ve got only one in every five households in the U.S., compared to one in every two in Japan, it says there's potential.

You’ve seen some of the work we’ve done this year with celebrities, that we're bringing a lot of new consumers in to the DS. So I think there’s opportunity for both of them to coexist for some period of time.

Wired.com: The Nintendo DS Lite costs significantly less in the U.S. than it does in Japan. Do you see something similar happening with DSi?

Dunaway: I don't know what the pricing is going to be here, but certainly it is going to be a premium over what our current DS is priced at.

Wired.com: On the DS, one of the biggest selling games right now is Guitar Hero, which would not work on DSi. Is this something you’ve discussed with Activision?

Dunaway: Activision, and particularly the guys at Vicarious Visions, are great partners. And they have understood how to use the unique features of the DS. And so we expect that they’ll come up with ways to innovate on DSi too.

Wired.com: Having had a lot of time to think about E3, what would you say are the lessons learned?

Dunaway: Before E3, at E3, our strategy has always been to make games for everyone. But we recognize that people were disappointed because we didn’t show the full breadth of the portfolio at E3. In hindsight, we should have shown Wario, should have shown Rhythm Heaven. So we were excited to be able to show today, yes, there are games for everybody.

Wired.com: In Japan, Mr. Iwata announced a line of GameCube games that would be brought to the Wii and enhanced with Wii controls, like Metroid Prime and Pikmin. Nintendo didn’t have any announcements on that today. Is that something that you’d be considering for this market?

Dunaway: We did have no announcements today, but we were not trying to announce the full lineup of 2009’s first half. There will be more news to come.

Wired.com: In Japan, I feel like it’s easier to explain to people the nature of products like this — a GameCube port with Wii controls. In the U.S., it might be more difficult to sell that. Do you see that as being a challenge?

Dunaway: I think it would be particularly important here in the U.S. that hard-core gamers knew it was a port of a GameCube game. Whereas expanded audience members see it as an entirely new experience, something that's in the spirit of some of the other games that they’re coming to enjoy. You’d have to be sure that your messages were clear to both audiences, and a little bit different to both audiences.

Wired.com: There are quite a few games that are out in Japan or Europe that we're not hearing about for the U.S. — Disaster: Day of Crisis, Fatal Frame, Captain Rainbow (which I don’t think is coming out here).... Is Disaster off the table for the United States? Is this going to happen?

Dunaway: We just haven’t been talking about Disaster right now. But you’ve seen with Sin and Punishment, which hadn't come to the U.S. before, that we’re definitely looking at what people are responding to in Japan and seeing if there’s a way to bring it over here.

Wired.com: So on the new storage solution for Wii, let me see if I understand this correctly. You’re downloading games to an SD card.

Dunaway: So basically what we’re trying to do is make it easier for people. We know that there have been a lot of workarounds and a lot of steps to save to an SD card. So it’s a combination of making it an easier interface, not having to go through as many menus to do the saving and then enabling people to save a game that they want to buy from WiiWare directly to an SD card.

Wired.com: Do you think Wii supply is going to catch up to demand in 2009? Are we going to see Wii in an in-stock situation next year?

Dunaway: You know, it’s anybody’s guess. None of us know what the ceiling of the demand is. When we look at how we’re doing in an equivalent period to, say, PS2, we’re still outselling that at 22 months. We’re going to have a lot of product in the marketplace this holiday — 50% more Wii consoles than last holiday.

Wired.com: Tell me about Club Nintendo. You made a small announcement about this — can you share any more details?

Dunaway: No more details. We’re still working out what all the prizes are going to be. We’d love to hear ideas from the fanbase about what kind of things they’d like to see included in Club Nintendo. You will be able to take over some of the points that you have in your current My Nintendo account. It won’t necessarily be all titles, but some Wii and DS titles. We want people to be able to start off with some points. And it’s going to work similar to the way it works in Japan and Europe. Where you get credit for purchasing games and filling out surveys, credit for indicating advance interest in titles ... those same features.

Wired.com: Yeah, because in Japan if you pre-order a game and buy it, you get extra points for pre-ordering, you get extra points for buying it sooner rather than later, and you get extra points on the back end for filling out a survey about it. So if you’re really dedicated you can get a whole lot of points.

But the issue is: We’ve got Club Nintendo in Europe and Japan, but in Europe it’s about virtual prizes like wallpapers. In Japan it’s physical goods. Is that what we’re looking at for America, the prizes?

Dunaway: It’s going to be a blend of both. Over the first year you’ll see more physical prizes. We’d like to figure out ways to get interesting digital prizes as well, but that’s more for phase two. If you have good ideas, shoot 'em to me.

Wired.com: The internet wants me to ask about a Nintendo DS game called Soma Bringer, and whether that’s coming to the United States.

Dunaway: Okay, I’ve got to write these down. I’m not familiar with it.

Wired.com: It’s an RPG made by Monolith Soft, which is a company that Nintendo owns in Japan. It’s a role-playing game for Nintendo DS with participation by some relatively well-known RPG designers, and it’s not announced for U.S. at this point.

Dunaway: It’s not on my radar right now, but I will make sure that we put it on the radar.

Wired.com: They want to know about Mother 3. Another very popular role-playing game that Nintendo did, on the Game Boy Advance, that never came out.

Dunaway: It sounds like there’s an overall theme here about people being interested in these games that have not come to the United States.

Wired.com: Oh, and someone’s asking about Professor Layton 2. Now, you’re in the Professor Layton club with me, so why is this not announced yet?

Dunaway: I am in the Professor Layton club. Hopefully, we’ll see that one.

Wired.com: I certainly hope so. Okay, apparently they’re all just asking about Soma Bringer.

Dunaway: Tell them I’m putting stars by that one in my notebook. Are people excited about Fire Emblem?

Wired.com: I think so. I think that there’s plenty of stuff in the pipeline, but people are just hoping that a lot of the games that are in Japan are coming over here.

Last question. Tell me what you know about Punch-Out.

Dunaway: I know that it was really popular 15 years ago, and that it’s been sitting there with latent demand. So we’re bringing it out in the first part of the year and we’re really excited about that.

Wired.com: It looks like a pretty straightforward remake of the classic game, with a lot of the same boxers. Is that your understanding of it?

Dunaway: Yeah, that is my understanding. It’s got the ... who’s the big character ... Big Eddie.

Wired.com: King Hippo.

Dunaway: King Hippo!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 03, 2008, 10:15:51 PM
Maxi, can you post a source? I think you are required to per forum law.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 10:20:39 PM
There you go (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/post.html)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 03, 2008, 11:10:14 PM
Quote
Dunaway: It sounds like there’s an overall theme here about people being interested in these games that have not come to the United States.

Just bring them all over and there won't be this problem... >=|

Quote
Wired.com: I certainly hope so. Okay, apparently they’re all just asking about Soma Bringer.

Dunaway: Tell them I’m putting stars by that one in my notebook.

It's depressing that it's not in the works at the moment, but this is pretty good news!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 04, 2008, 02:44:56 AM
Yeah, I can't imagine how it'll work. And how does that guy only have 49 beats up to that point. If you don't lose beats by getting hurt (lose hearts instead), it'll make the game a lot weaker, and new players wont appreciate and understand it as much.

How about losing both and zero hearts = instant game over?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 04, 2008, 10:24:42 PM
Dunaway says some pretty cringeworthy stuff in that interview.  You can tell that she has little in-depth knowledge about Nintendo's products, and is there because of her executive experience.  I realize that she's getting asked Nintendo-nerd questions, but really, when she comes across as clueless as she does it just looks bad.  Every interview sounds like an interview with a mom that's trying desperately to be "hip".

Question: do Japanese DSes have English menus?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: D_Average on October 04, 2008, 11:26:23 PM
Dunaway says some pretty cringeworthy stuff in that interview.  You can tell that she has little in-depth knowledge about Nintendo's products, and is there because of her executive experience.  I realize that she's getting asked Nintendo-nerd questions, but really, when she comes across as clueless as she does it just looks bad.  Every interview sounds like an interview with a mom that's trying desperately to be "hip".

Question: do Japanese DSes have English menus?

I still can't believe she couldn't name a single video game magazine!
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 05, 2008, 02:40:17 AM
Question: do Japanese DSes have English menus?

Yes unless that changed with the DSi, a japanese DS can be set to any language any DS supports. My DS is from Japan and is set to German, even though no DSes were sold here when I bought it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Khushrenada on October 05, 2008, 04:27:54 AM
Quote
Dunaway: No more details. We’re still working out what all the prizes are going to be. We’d love to hear ideas from the fanbase about what kind of things they’d like to see included in Club Nintendo. You will be able to take over some of the points that you have in your current My Nintendo account. It won’t necessarily be all titles, but some Wii and DS titles. We want people to be able to start off with some points. And it’s going to work similar to the way it works in Japan and Europe. Where you get credit for purchasing games and filling out surveys, credit for indicating advance interest in titles ... those same features.

Interesting. So, we won't all have to start fresh after all.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 05, 2008, 04:39:14 AM
At least I will have some incentive to register my games now.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 05, 2008, 06:43:50 AM
Japan gets loads of points with each game and lots of cool things to buy with them, Europe gets a pittance per game and just some cheap crap to spend iton, the kind you get for free for showing up on special events with other companies. Which will it be?
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 05, 2008, 07:29:37 AM
Well all I hope is one of the things they offer are the club nintendo DS games and the Wii SNES controller.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 05, 2008, 09:52:25 AM
Well all I hope is one of the things they offer are the club nintendo DS games and the Wii SNES controller.

This.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Adrock on October 05, 2008, 10:59:19 AM
Dunaway says some pretty cringeworthy stuff in that interview.  You can tell that she has little in-depth knowledge about Nintendo's products, and is there because of her executive experience.
I know. Her gaming ignorance makes me pine to hear from Perrin Kaplan again....
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 05, 2008, 12:16:31 PM
Well all I hope is one of the things they offer are the club nintendo DS games and the Wii SNES controller.

They did none of that in Europe, you'll have to hope for the Japanese system then.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2008, 06:38:13 PM
You know, the whole introduction of Club Nintendo really makes you wonder why they bothered giving people the ability to register games in the first place (aside from their own selfish interest in tracking demographics).  I have a ton of games registered on Nintendo.com, and I honestly don't think I've gotten a single thing for the exercise (maybe the offer of a discounted Nintendo Power subscription, but again, that's pretty self-interested on their part).
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 05, 2008, 07:29:20 PM
Really?

Registering GC + 2 games = The Legend of Zelda: Collectors Edition
Kirby Canvas Curse = Pink Stylus
Brain Age 2 = Rainbow stylus set (Roy G Biv)
Phantom Hourglass = Quill Stylus

It's been rare, but registering games for goodies has definitely happened...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 05, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
Really?

Registering GC + 2 games = The Legend of Zelda: Collectors Edition
Kirby Canvas Curse = Pink Stylus
Brain Age 2 = Rainbow stylus set (Roy G Biv)
Phantom Hourglass = Quill Stylus

It's been rare, but registering games for goodies has definitely happened...

Big Brain Academy Wii Degree = Wii Remote Key chain
Wii = extra 3 free months of warranty
The free Nintendo Power issues
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2008, 08:10:22 PM
So stuff HAS existed.  I haven't gotten any of it, that's for sure.  Maybe it's because I don't need styluses and keychains (Nintendo's really breaking the bank on those, sheesh), so I never searched it out. 
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 05, 2008, 09:42:49 PM
Yeah that stuff is crap. Gamestop has given away cooler stuff just for preordering the game. I'm hoping Nintendo does something awesome like in Japan, but due to the size of North America, I'm not expecting anything worthwhile.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: UncleBob on October 05, 2008, 10:19:05 PM
Registering GameCube + 2 select games = The Legend of Zelda: Collectors Edition
(Avalanche 1080, Mario Party 5, Mario Kart: Double Dash and Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga)
GameCube + any 5 Games = Metroid Prime 2 Demo Disc
Any three products = 3 free Nintendo Power issues
Kirby Canvas Curse = Pink Stylus
Brain Age 2 = rainbow stylus gift set
Phantom Hourglass = quill stylus
Wii = extra 3 months of warranty
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree = Wii Remote light up key chain

Trimmed up a few, added one that was missing and moved them around to about the right order.

I've got all of these... How sad... ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2008, 01:43:30 AM
Wii - free wrist straps =]
1080 Avalanche - free beanie
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: UncleBob on October 06, 2008, 01:48:05 AM
Well, Free Gloves too for the Wii, but I don't think that required a MyNintendo account... ;)

There was a beanie for Avalanche?  Through MyNintendo?  Because I didn't get one... ?:\
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2008, 03:20:03 AM
Tarnished record.
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: UncleBob on October 06, 2008, 03:26:23 AM
Got a picture?  Now I have to track one down! (I got a Wii Beanie I'll trade!)

Also, there was some kind of Custom Robo promo with the GCN game, but it was exclusive to Canada...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 06, 2008, 07:29:23 AM
The Custom Robo promo was a contest I believe...
Title: Re: Nintendo Retailer Conference (OP updated with stuffs, more when I feel like it)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 07, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
Nintendo Zone coming to NA? (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/07/nintendo-zones-coming-to-north-america-too/)

Well this is interesting.