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Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« on: April 02, 2007, 03:51:59 PM »
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GamePro has a nice 'lil interview with Shiggy regarding his thoughts on the Wii so far. Here are some choice snippets:

"I prepared myself for the possibility that Wii might face an uphill battle in America, so to see that it has become this big of a hit is something t I wasn't particularly expecting... There are other enhancements to the Wii interface and developments being planned that are going to really make games for hardcore players a lot more fun and interesting... A lot of people have the misunderstanding that Nintendo is not interested in network gaming."

Even Shiggy had his doubts, new stuff for hardcores is on its way, and maybe, just maybe, Nintendo is really serious about network play despite all this friend code madness. Woot!

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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 04:23:19 PM »
I saw this at Go Nintendo, Cap. I thought about posting it, but Wii Boxing was more fun .

As for the enhancement, now that captured my attention.  Just what could they be talking about? A new channel for online gaming? Patches that fixes some of the pointer issues? The firmware upgrade that FINALLY allows users to plug in an external HD?
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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 04:29:50 PM »
Enhancements? What does that even mean?

I dislike cryptic interviews. I don't doubt something is in the works, but why bother with these "hints?" I'd much rather they just say nothing until a real announcement is made.

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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 04:38:19 PM »
I remember hearing that other control configurations besides the control stick nunchuk are possible, it's about time they show what they've come up with. miyamoto implies he's not interested in traditional online games, but a general social community.. great.
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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 04:48:30 PM »
I bet they're talking about rankings, or accomplishment points, teams/clans, or something along those lines. All the cool kids are doing it.

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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2007, 07:06:10 PM »
I get emails about enhancing my Wii for hardcore stuff often enough.

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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2007, 09:48:18 PM »
C'mon you guys. You KNOW these enhancements he'll be talking about will be right out of left field for hardcore gamers. It won't be conventional AT ALL, but something more lifestyle, more non-gamer-y... but it will still become the next big hit like the "Everybody Votes" channel...

That said, Miyamoto affirms my longheld stance that Nintendo has always WANTED to go online, but for its own reasons instead of for conventional wisdom's.

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A lot of people have the misunderstanding that Nintendo is not interested in network gaming. What we are interested in isn't so much the idea of creating a game that is online and networked in a way that we have seen online up until now. We are really more interested in this idea of having the household television connected to the Internet constantly via the Wii. I think you are going to see a lot of new possibilities for new types of entertainment, such as new channels for the Wii in that type of network environment.

I think that will give rise to more social-based communities including those created by users, which is going to be a very interesting and exciting area for us to explore.



They've been trying to go online ever since the Famicom, but they have yet to nail some really unique usage of it beyond player matching and/or persistant worlds. When you realize that all online games use just these two paradigms of interaction, then it seems really wasteful of online connectivity. Nintendo's been trying to find their own unique thing to actually use online for... I don't know if they're there yet, but they're moving a little bit closer every day.

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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2007, 10:08:32 PM »
Takes them 20 years? Do they employ cavemen?
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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2007, 10:13:01 PM »
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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2007, 10:18:22 PM »
*shrug* They took 20 years to make Miis come to life (they had a similar thing on the Famicom Disk System), and look how those turned out.

Miyamoto talked about tenacity being one of his three personal tenets in game design. He's been kicking around the Mii concept for 20-odd years ever since the Famicom Disk Systemn, through to N64's Talent Studio, and finally to their realization ALL THESE YEARS LATER on the Wii. Likewise, Nintendo, as a company heavily invested in R&D and creativity, has been trying to create new experiences with online games for years, from the Famicom going online to trade stocks and bet on horse races (obvious non-game activities, but this was back in the '80s!), to the Super Famicom's Broadcast Satellaview system where players would all play simultaneously at the same time with a narrator broadcast to their system describing the world's changing events in REAL TIME, to the 64DD, which though it failed was the original platform for Animal Crossing and lives on through that game.

You look at that rich, diverse, creative, long-term, storied and dedicated development history, and it's easy to appreciate how they've been online for years and never quite satisfied with their implementation. They want more.

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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2007, 12:30:46 AM »
I can only hope that I never see the acehivement system found on the Xbox ever grace a nintendo console. The mention of gamer score sets of a Mexican wave of dick swinging.

As for match making, i always liked the PC client - server system. I log on to a server and there are all my favorite people I like to play with. If a retard logs in, we sort it out with a mob hanging. but for a console, that is not going to happen as the cost of running thoses servers like that is problematic. The next best thing would be the Blizzard style lobby system, but for games like Warcraft 3, it ends up being to a complete DOTA based wash.
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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2007, 01:33:26 AM »
I just looked up what gamerscore is and i gotta agree. it does seem quite crap. why not just something simple like a scoreboard for games which score matters like hopefully NiGHTS 2 highscores(hopefully), since the Wii is online all the time it could even send your friends' score to your game.  

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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2007, 02:08:49 AM »
Shiggy doesn't get his every wish. Whatever enhancements may be coming it's safe to say we won't see them for a while if at all. If Nintendo thinks they're making a profit, then they won't rock the boat. They never do. Look at the Wii itself, it was a conservative effort to say the least with a bit of "waggle" involved.

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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2007, 02:43:23 AM »
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Originally posted by: Acefondu
Shiggy doesn't get his every wish. Whatever enhancements may be coming it's safe to say we won't see them for a while if at all. If Nintendo thinks they're making a profit, then they won't rock the boat. They never do. Look at the Wii itself, it was a conservative effort to say the least with a bit of "waggle" involved.


In the traditional sense it maybe conservative, in that they didn't go for the I am faster tech race. But the X360 and PS3 are far more traditional since they are mearly following the technological road map already laid out by the chip makers. Normally, when you order a chip, you ask for faster above all else. To hell with how much power it eats or how much heat it puts out, that is what heat sinks are for. Nintendo went against the roadmaps by asking for chips that were cheap, low power comsumption but while still upping the power.

The point is that there is almost nothing traditional about the Wii. They are in their own boat right now in the same lake.
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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2007, 03:01:31 AM »
I'm fully aware of Nintendo's approach. I did a 20 page marketing project on it. They're geniuses in every respect, but they also take the "road most profitable." In regards to the enhancements topic, they will only do it if a profit can be made. You won't see the Wii Light Gun if they think 2 people will get one in other words.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2007, 03:22:09 AM »
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They've been trying to go online ever since the Famicom, but they have yet to nail some really unique usage of it beyond player matching and/or persistant worlds.


Well why don't they try nailing that first. Because while they're busy trying to "revolutionize" something that's actually pretty fine how it is, their fans who would probably want a nice traditional online experience are starving. Sorry, it just sounds like more pussyfooting to me. They haven't really paid much attention to online, thinking that it wasn't going to be anything more than a little accessory to traditional gaming and not profitable to really pursue. But now that online gaming is actually taking off and blossoming into a legitimate feature of console gaming, Nintendo is realizing they're behind. But of course they're not going to say that.

For now I'm going to simply agree with this:
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2007, 03:43:19 AM »
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it will still become the next big hit like the "Everybody Votes" channel


Are you serious or sarcastic? Everybody Votes, was a fun little idea for the first week. I haven't even bothered to check it since because it got old and tired very quickly with it's frivolous "polls".  
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2007, 03:49:24 AM »
lol, me either. The votes channel could have been great. "Should Sonic be in Smash Bros? Yes or no? But instead we get, "Where would you rather live? A mountain or beach..."

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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2007, 03:56:37 AM »
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lol, me either. The votes channel could have been great. "Should Sonic be in Smash Bros? Yes or no? But instead we get, "Where would you rather live? A mountain or beach..."


Thank you!

If the Everybody Votes channel asked questions that mattered - Questions that could directly influence future content and features of the Wii, I'd be checking it out several times per day. Instead there are just so many times I can vote for my favorite color before losing interest.
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RE:Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2007, 04:02:10 AM »
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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2007, 04:39:36 AM »
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If the Everybody Votes channel asked questions that mattered - Questions that could directly influence future content and features of the Wii, I'd be checking it out several times per day. Instead there are just so many times I can vote for my favorite color before losing interest.

Questions that matter are boring.  The Everybody Votes channel would have approximately zero use in terms of market research, plus obvious attempts to use it that way would make the vast majority of people feel like they were being used, and they'd ignore it.  

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2007, 04:47:32 AM »
Actually, consumers love giving their support to companies they trust. Ever get a Nintendo survey in your email and not rip it open ready to help out? Boy I do. I love when they ask me what they could be doing better or what's going right or wrong. I feel as though I've helped make my platform a better place for all.

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2007, 04:53:03 AM »
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Questions that matter are boring.  The Everybody Votes channel would have approximately zero use in terms of market research, plus obvious attempts to use it that way would make the vast majority of people feel like they were being used, and they'd ignore it.


So instead they treat their customers like morons by asking questions which insult their intelligence? Seriously, I'm not 6 years old. It's OK to ask me to vote on a question that actually requires some thought and one that eventually might make a difference. Until that happens, this channel is useless (to me, anyways).  
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2007, 04:54:29 AM »
Also, isn't that what you're doing now Bear? Think about it. You're here on forums discussing problems/solutions to issues Nintendo is dealing with.

So what's the difference if you answer Yes or No with a cuddely and cute Mii on your Wii?

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RE: Miyamoto: Wii enhancements coming for hardcore gamers
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2007, 05:27:57 AM »
I see Miyamoto putting out a Wiimote-gun-holster. Why? Well first of all they already made a prototype. Secondly, on-rail shooters would work perfectly for the Wii.

The only problem with Wii FPS's so far is the turning, and that God-forsaken bounding box. Putting a shooter on-rails eliminates both problems.

Plus, who wouldn't buy Time Crisis 4 or anyone of Sega's fantastic on-rail shooters?
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