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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2010, 04:04:15 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2010, 04:09:18 PM »
And I'm not sure why anybody cares!
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2010, 04:33:47 PM »
So much for a new generation of gaming.

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2010, 04:35:56 PM »
Pretty awesome! I wish they are put on a VC service!
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2010, 04:36:40 PM »
Hooray for recycled content in place of new games!  Hooray for buying things I already own over again!
 
I never understand the appeal for ports.  I guess other people treat their old games like ****, sell them, or are so lazy that paying for a new version is more desirable to them then going to the trouble to hook up their old system.
 
Even with the portable appeal, I don't feel any particular desire to play games I've already beaten again and again.  I'm done with Ocarina of Time.  And if I play through it again it would never be of such a high priority that I would need to do it while away from my house.
 
Whatever.  Stupid rubes can pay launch prices to play games they already own while I, like I did with the Wii and DS, will wait until NEW games show up and pay less money, while not missing out on anything at all.  It's never going to change so if you want to be Nintendo's whore, go for it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2010, 04:37:31 PM »
So much for a new generation of gaming.

Right? What the hell is going on here? For once I agree with Ian. This is just retarded.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2010, 05:08:59 PM »
So much for a new generation of gaming.
Nintendo can't do anything to please anyone this generation, hence OoT 3DS.

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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2010, 05:09:39 PM »
I get what everyone is complaing about but this is kind of sweet.  Some games just hit people a certain way that they have to come back to it from time to time.  I think I've beaten Suikoden 2 like 4 times already and have been getting the hankering to pick it up again if it weren't for my backlog of games.  Its like a good movie, you may have already seen it but its enjoyable to watch it again from time to time.  Pulling out the original is always good but if you have the option for and updated package, then that could breath a little bit of new life to the game.  Some people like to relive classics with a new presentation as it lets them see it in a new light.
 
Also, I'd like to think that remakes introduce some gamers to old games that they might have never given the time of day as a result of not having said hardware at the time of its release or a dislike for the dated visuals.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2010, 05:15:07 PM »
Hooray for recycled content in place of new games!  Hooray for buying things I already own over again!
 
I never understand the appeal for ports.  I guess other people treat their old games like ****, sell them, or are so lazy that paying for a new version is more desirable to them then going to the trouble to hook up their old system.
 
Even with the portable appeal, I don't feel any particular desire to play games I've already beaten again and again.  I'm done with Ocarina of Time.  And if I play through it again it would never be of such a high priority that I would need to do it while away from my house.
 
Whatever. Stupid rubes can pay launch prices to play games they already own while I, like I did with the Wii and DS, will wait until NEW games show up and pay less money, while not missing out on anything at all.  It's never going to change so if you want to be Nintendo's whore, go for it.

You must also hate DVDs, Blu-ray Discs, e-books, etc. Did you ever think people may like to play their favorite games without having to whip out old systems and hook them up? Or people who may not have those games anymore? Tkae the Phoenix Wright games on WiiWare as an example, the DS versions are difficult to find now. I may not like OOT, but while you wait I know millions of people will buy the game and enjoy it. The 3DS games shown and announced today was pure sexy and easily secured Nintendo as having the best E3 already and eliminated any reason to wait for it. Everyone should get a 3DS at launch.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 05:15:35 PM »
While they're remaking old games, do you think they could release Mario 64 DS again on the 3DS now that it can do analog control?
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 05:31:12 PM »
They could, but they shouldn't.

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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2010, 05:32:43 PM »
Did you ever think people may like to play their favorite games without having to whip out old systems and hook them up?
Isn't this what VC is for? Here, Nintendo gets to spend considerably fewer resources remaking a 12 year old game then sell it for $35 dollars. Great business sense because people will eat this up. Not me, though. I agree with Ian on this. Spirit Tracks was an utter waste then a remake of Ocarina of Time is what they follow up with. Ew.

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2010, 05:35:02 PM »
Are the graphics being updated, or is it a direct port with 3d tacked on?

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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2010, 05:56:14 PM »
Nintendo took down the screens (I wish companies would realize that it too late to stop it by trying doing that)







I think it would be cool to see OoT in 3D and it's not like Nintendo has any chance in getting a brand new Zelda game ready for 3DS launch.

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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2010, 05:58:37 PM »
Did you ever think people may like to play their favorite games without having to whip out old systems and hook them up?
Isn't this what VC is for? Here, Nintendo gets to spend considerably fewer resources remaking a 12 year old game then sell it for $35 dollars. Great business sense because people will eat this up. Not me, though. I agree with Ian on this. Spirit Tracks was an utter waste then a remake of Ocarina of Time is what they follow up with. Ew.

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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2010, 06:05:03 PM »
Not interested in Ocarina again... but a portable Star Fox 64 is a dream. It's the perfect "pick up and play" type of title, and its relatively short length with branching levels is ideal for a hand held.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2010, 06:39:58 PM »
Port ≠ Remake
I know, champ. I'm still confused over whether this is a port or remake. Still, it's irrelevant. I was responding to the question you posed. VC allows people to "play their favorite games without having to whip out old systems and hook them up." The screenshots suggest more than a straight port (i.e. sharper graphics), which, if true, I consider a waste of resources, even if 1 person worked on it. That would be one less person not working on a brand new Zelda game. Ocarina of Time has been re-released so many times and even if people missed the Gamecube compilation discs, it's been available on Virtual Console for over 3 years. The world doesn't need another way to attain Ocarina of Time.

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2010, 07:01:44 PM »
Just saw this at IGN. How could Nintendo not announce this? What is arguably the best Zelda game ever getting a 3D upgrade! I hope this is a launch title and has a few other improvements besides looks.

Btw I said 'arguably the best' so let's not argue about which is the best.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2010, 07:07:58 PM »
Glad to see someone here is excited other than me

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2010, 07:28:12 PM »
The game is widely available elsewhere (N64, Gamecube, Virtual Console) so I'm not sure why they're putting effort into another remake. Maybe this will be a launch game akin to Super Mario 64 DS.
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2010, 07:41:43 PM »
I would prefer a portable Zelda title that is done in the style of Twilight Princess. Not a remake of said title, but more of a new entry with TP graphics.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2010, 08:59:40 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2010, 09:03:27 PM »
Screens look nice. There has been a demand in the past for a OOT remake.
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2010, 09:23:49 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2010, 12:48:40 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2010, 05:32:36 AM »
I have no problem with this. It's not like the rest of the 3DS lineup appears weak so far.

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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2010, 08:21:49 AM »
I have no problems with this...maybe we will get the original 2 dungeons that were left out remade.

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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2010, 10:06:27 AM »
I  don't remember anyone bitching about A Link to the Past coming to GBA.  Probably because the 2dness marks it as "old school" and capable of rebuying.

N64 was 2 console generations ago.  OoT came out 12 YEARS AGO this year.  3DS doesn't even come out until next year.

Ian, most people don't keep consoles or games 12 years past the date it came out.  Not to mention people who were born the day Ocarina came out are now old enough to play.  This isn't cashing in on stupid customers, this is bringing back a beloved game for people who played it in the past and giving a chance for the younguns to play it for the first time.

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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2010, 10:18:08 AM »
I am personally hoping for a full priced Classics game collection, or 2.

A Nintendo 64 action pack with Zelda and Star Fox would be cool.

A Retro collection with the Classic collection 3D demos and such.

Though, Nintendo will probably just be adding 3D effects to downloadable games for a 3DS virtual console type service, and I am ok with that.


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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2010, 05:00:23 PM »
Maybe this will be the master quest version which is at least a little more different than the version most are familiar with.
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« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2010, 05:12:27 PM »
I  don't remember anyone bitching about A Link to the Past coming to GBA.  Probably because the 2dness marks it as "old school" and capable of rebuying.
A Link to the Past on GBA came with Four Swords, was the first time the game was re-released, and came out pre-Virtual Console. Like I said earlier, Ocarina of Time has been re-released twice on Gamecube and 3 years ago on Virtual Console. Those are the major differences. We're getting a prettied up version of a game that's widely available. I guess they could add the gameplay refinements found in later titles, but why? I'm sure most, if not all, of us would rather have a brand new Zelda for 3DS.

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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2010, 05:52:48 PM »
Adrock whos to say we aren't getting a 3DS Zelda game other than this?
I mean we are getting 2 Zelda games on Wii.
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Ian, most people don't keep consoles or games 12 years past the date it came out.  Not to mention people who were born the day Ocarina came out are now old enough to play.  This isn't cashing in on stupid customers, this is bringing back a beloved game for people who played it in the past and giving a chance for the younguns to play it for the first time.

In 12 years Ocarina of Time has been released in FOUR DIFFERENT FORMATS.  And THREE of them are playable on the Wii.  If you wanted it you got it.  This is to get fanboys with no self control to buy it again.
 
It isn't like this is some obscure game where Nintendo is doing everyone a service by re-introducing it to the marketplace.  When A Link to the Past came out on the GBA it was a high demand game that had been out of print for years.  Super Metroid was one of the most demanded VC games because it had been out of print or at least 10 years at that point.  Ocarina of Time has more or less NEVER been out of print and it is in fact IN PRINT RIGHT NOW.
 
With this 3D thing Nintendo has just found another method to recycle old content and they're jumping in with both feet.  It's no different then how once the Wii was out they were just salivating at the opportunity to re-release Gamecube games with new controls.
 
Of course if you're all super pumped about this nothing I say will change your mind.  And you'll be content playing the game you already owned while I have nothing to play as Nintendo releases this in place of something new like they do EVERY TIME.  Nintendo released jack **** for Wii games when the NPC titles were coming out.  They released jack **** for the GBA when SNES ports were coming out (look up 2002 GBA releases and you'll notice that Metroid Fusion is the only new game all year) and they'll do the same here.

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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2010, 06:48:22 PM »
Adrock whos to say we aren't getting a 3DS Zelda game other than this?
We probably are. My point is while they're working on Ocarina of Time, they're not working on Zelda 3DS. Or if they're working on them concurrently, the remake is taking resources away from the brand new game. I'd rather Nintendo just focus on getting us Zelda 3DS as soon as possible because I've already played Ocarina of Time several times and it's still widely available on Virtual Console.

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« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2010, 06:55:04 PM »
They are probably working on them cocurently. I mean Retro was working on Metroid Prime Trilogy while working on DKC Returns.It is possible.
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« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2010, 06:56:25 PM »
In 12 years Ocarina of Time has been released in FOUR DIFFERENT FORMATS.  And THREE of them are playable on the Wii.
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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2010, 07:00:36 PM »
In 12 years Ocarina of Time has been released in FOUR DIFFERENT FORMATS.  And THREE of them are playable on the Wii.
Virtual Console, the GameCube collection disc, and...?
There was a Master Quest version and the original game as a preorder bonus for the WindWaker.

4th one is probably the N64 version.
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« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2010, 07:05:14 PM »
That isn't a separate format though, all those count as GameCube.

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« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2010, 10:10:17 PM »
Here's a thought - the engine for OoT is pretty damn good.  It's virtually a modified Super Mario 64 engine, but also birthed Majora's Mask.

Who's to say they're not converting the OoT engine over to the 3DS not just to make a cheap cash in (nothing wrong with that), but to use the engine to cut the time (and costs) in creating a brand new title for the 3DS?
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« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2010, 11:30:38 PM »
Here's a thought - the engine for OoT is pretty damn good.  It's virtually a modified Super Mario 64 engine, but also birthed Majora's Mask.

Who's to say they're not converting the OoT engine over to the 3DS not just to make a cheap cash in (nothing wrong with that), but to use the engine to cut the time (and costs) in creating a brand new title for the 3DS?

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I however don't see myself quadruple-dipping on OoT since I've played it to death, that is UNLESS there's some added value to it (and more importantly a bargain price). Added value? As Spak-spang mentioned they might be able to add those 2 dungeons cut from the original game. In fact, they might as well include both the Original and Master Quest versions, with the 2 omitted dungeons added to both. Any other little bonuses would be nice, but if I can get those new experiences out of this classic game I'd consider purchasing it..

just not a day one purchase. Nothing they add would make it a day one purchase*

I'm not trying to hate on the game, not at all. I do feel that even the most minimal resources put into porting/optimizing this game for 3DS could've been better spent on a completely brand new game, whether it was a new zelda portable title or a new IP all together. Honestly the only way spending even the most minimal of resources on re-releasing THIS game is justifiable is if it's as UB mentioned; to get the engine work in place in order to cut time in the New Zelda Portable dev time**

*Okay, maybe if they announce a limited edition SHINY gold card, none of that nasty mustard colored n64 cartridge hidden inside a beautiful box.

**even then, why the OoT engine? The system seems a little more powerful than that so why tinker with geting the OoT engine working on the system when they could spend the time and money working on a completely new Zelda game that uses the WW engine? Or if they really wanted to cut off SOME dev time, just use the PH/ST engine? Oh yeah, going with the former lets them release a quick cash in of a more popular and critically acclaimed game.

No matter how much it irks the likes of Ian (and slightly bugs me), this IS smart business.. but only if this port is a byproduct of trying to get the engine to work on 3DS. If not, its still smart business, just a more greedy one :)


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« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2010, 11:32:11 PM »
They're fixing the Water Temple. What more do you need?
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« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2010, 11:33:24 PM »
what needs fixing?
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« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2010, 11:36:33 PM »
I think you missed the point of what is going on.

All the demos of Nintendo 64 games were created because the code was already written and it is easier to explore 3D game play with already created games.  You know how it should play and can work on making the 3D effects work for the game better.

Now, some of these games may have been pretty easy to port and are such classics that people may want to play them again, so why not release them with better graphics, and the 3D effect. 

But Nintendo has already stated they aren't stopping there.  They want to see how they can make the games better with faster menu controls and potentially new stuff added to the game.  Perhaps we will get the last 2 dungeons.  Perhaps even Majora's Mask will be put in the game?  How knows.

But, if you decide you don't want the game don't buy it.  For everyone stating this game has already been released too many times...to my knowledge this is the first and only time OoT has been released on a portable system allowing you to play it wherever you are...and that in it self is worth purchase...besides the 3D effects and besides the updated graphics, and besides the potential new content.

Finally, even if this game is never released it was a good demo and practice for Nintendo to understand how to work with a 3D display in a 3D world.

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« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2010, 11:42:16 PM »
**even then, why the OoT engine? The system seems a little more powerful than that so why tinker with geting the OoT engine working on the system when they could spend the time and money working on a completely new Zelda game that uses the WW engine? Or if they really wanted to cut off SOME dev time, just use the PH/ST engine?

PH/ST is a totally different type of game than what they're trying to show in 3D.
Isn't the Wind Waker engine based off the OoT Engine?  Or am I crazy?

Now I wonder how Wind Waker would look in 3D.  *drool*.

Anyway, if my assumption is correct, I would assume they're converting the OoT engine because it's the "purest" version of the engine, without all the tweaks that have been introduced.  Once they get it converted over, they can add in the tweaks from Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (?)...

Again, this is all speculation I'm pulling out of my back orifice.
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« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM »
They're fixing the Water Temple. What more do you need?
what needs fixing?

They're streamline putting on and taking off the Iron Boots and fixing a few other annoyances (like leaving out Link marrying Malon at the end).

Most of the Pikmin 3 and Sprite Tack staff have been kidnapped by Miyamoto to work on Zelda:SS because Miyamoto is working them all to the bone by throwing out what been done and starting all over again. With the few guys left, they could only make either a shitty rushed Zelda or a port. I much rather have a port for a launch title and wait for a good new Zelda 3DS after the next new Zelda is done with and play ST while it's still fresh than play a horrible Zelda cause it's new.

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« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2010, 11:54:30 PM »
But you missed my point that the system is more powerful than a N64 so why port over those engines? Shouldn't they be able to port those engines over with a little more work and have on par visuals while they're at it? Also isn't there some stereoscopic features hidden away in the GC hardware?

I'll admit i'm not a technophile so I dont really know the specs of the 3DS but after seeing what Kid Icarus Uprising looks like, the first thought was a portable gamecube (GamecubeGo?). If that is indeed the case and the 3DS is on on par (or close to) that systems power, wouldn't working on GC architecture that already has stereoscopic tech in it make more sense?

Even if I'm wrong about all that, you still miss my point (and Spak i'm only assuming you're post was a direct response to mine and not Ians) that I personally have NO problem with this port existing. At one point in life I would have loved to have been able to play a portable OoT. Right now though, I've played the game so many times that getting ME to this is uninteresting and a very hard sell. To everyone else, go for it! The games a classic and more power to those that want to reexperience it, and even MORE power to those that get to experience this magical little gem for the first time. With all the hoopla over Skyward Sword, you know how many youtube comments I've read where some kids call WW the first Zelda title? Let them be schooled.

Yes i'm a little dissapointed that so many ports will be available at launch when there could have been more new games (sequels or new IPs from nintendo) but its not a deal breaker. It's just, at this point in time, there's not much to get excited for over by the 3DS (aside from the obvious gaming potential in the increased power, and the 3D). I'm sure once we see more games, newer games, I'll be on the hype train for sure. Until then, I'm gonna sit on the platform and wait for the next train.
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« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2010, 12:07:31 AM »
**even then, why the OoT engine? The system seems a little more powerful than that so why tinker with geting the OoT engine working on the system when they could spend the time and money working on a completely new Zelda game that uses the WW engine? Or if they really wanted to cut off SOME dev time, just use the PH/ST engine?

PH/ST is a totally different type of game than what they're trying to show in 3D.

I knew that would come up but I only threw it out there because I assumed (and kind of hoped) that Nintendo would keep the console and portable Zelda titles in their different styles. I like that PH & ST feel a little more like the old 2d titles. In fact I'd really like to see what a stereoscopic 3d Zelda would look like on 3DS in that fixed camera angle, however maybe change the angle a bit so its more like Animal Crossing. I'm sure they'd make some beautiful 3D imagery in that style.

At the risk of sounding like Ian (again) I just feel that if the portable titles end up more like the console titles, they're just diluting the gene pool so to speak. I don't want to see the 3DS turn into a PSP where all its games play identically to their console iterations. With the motion sensing built into the system, and touch in place of IR pointing, they'd be pretty similar experiences ya know?

Keep in mind this is all coming from the guy thats waiting for the future where there is no console & portable system, they'd be one in the same. Know how many times I'd play a game like Rune Factory Frontier and wish I could magically transfer it to my DS because I had to run out for errands? Or how many times I wanted to zap a DS game onto the TV and play it with wii controls so I could sit a little more comfortably and have my hands cramp a little less?

Until that time comes though, I'd prefer that my portable experience be a little different than my console experience when it comes to games in the same franchise.
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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2010, 12:27:54 AM »
Until that time comes though, I'd prefer that my portable experience be a little different than my console experience when it comes to games in the same franchise.

I'm happy with 2D and 3D Mario on the same system.

I'd be just as happy with 2D and 3D Zelda on the same system.
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« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2010, 12:36:55 AM »
The idea that Nintendo chose to release ports instead of new games is ridiculous. It takes a lot more work to make a new game than to remake an existing one. The choice wasn't between the ports and new original games; it was between the ports and nothing. Like I said somewhere else, this isn't like the DS where the only launch game is a port. We're getting a couple ports alongside new, original games like Kid Icarus.
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« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2010, 12:58:09 AM »
Until that time comes though, I'd prefer that my portable experience be a little different than my console experience when it comes to games in the same franchise.

I'm happy with 2D and 3D Mario on the same system.

I'd be just as happy with 2D and 3D Zelda on the same system.

But would you really say that if instead of NSMB Wii wasn't for wii and instead was just NSMB2 for ds without four player co-op? Wait, of course You would. :P

I think there's more than a few of us here who though NSMB was pretty good on the DS but had its faults, yet almost everyone here (but the usual suspects..) thought NSMBW was phenominal, and I'd say a big part of that was due to the 4 simultaneaous players that just can't be done on the DS hardware. I'd declare that to be a different beast than any 2d Mario you'd get on the DS.

In other words, I see your point and its a good'ne but it's not perfect.

All I know is the last thing I want from the 3DS is for it to release games that are like the PSP's; an almost exact experience you can get from the bigger hardware. People complain enough when Nintendo releases a slightly updated port like this, imagine a scenario where they release The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword on Wii followed shortely thereafter by a Zelda: Skward Sword Tales (ala Liberty City Stories, etc)

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The idea that Nintendo chose to release ports instead of new games is ridiculous. It takes a lot more work to make a new game than to remake an existing one. The choice wasn't between the ports and new original games; it was between the ports and nothing. Like I said somewhere else, this isn't like the DS where the only launch game is a port. We're getting a couple ports alongside new, original games like Kid Icarus.

But why does it have to be "ports and nothing"? Nintendo are the ones creating the hardware along with the software and have plenty of teams that could have been working on new games for the launch window. They obviously have some good 3rd party support for this so that helps round out the lineup too, but even if Nintendo's games themselves get delayed, why must the 3DS release be set in stone? Just push the date back to lineup with the completion of the new games, giving 3rd parties some extra time to polish their games (lol!) if only to have the best lineup possible without padding via ports. Isn't that the most win-win situation for us, the gamers/consumers?

It's gonna be awesome seeing these ports alongside brand new titles when the 3DS launches, becuause OoT and SF64  are amazing games and deserve a second chance to shine*, but whats wrong with wishing there were more new games (from Nintendo themselves) for launch?

You know what, I'm gonna correct myself here: the most win-win situation for games is if the 3DS launches with 2 or 3 brand new games (sequels or new IPs) from Nintendo alongside all the new games from 3rd parties. Afterall, we don't know for sure these ports are all they have up their sleeve (plus I haven't followed E3 as close as you all so I'm not even positive if games like KIU, Nintendogs & AC are intended to be launch titles, so all this was for nothing if they are because they'll have those new games AND ports).


*especially Starfox. If it does well (and it should considering how awesome the game is!) you KNOW we'll see another SF game for the system now that the framework is in place.
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« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2010, 01:06:28 AM »
I think there's more than a few of us here who though NSMB was pretty good on the DS but had its faults, yet almost everyone here (but the usual suspects..) thought NSMBW was phenominal, and I'd say a big part of that was due to the 4 simultaneaous players that just can't be done on the DS hardware. I'd declare that to be a different beast than any 2d Mario you'd get on the DS.

If that was the situation, then it'd be a "different beast" because of the limitations of the hardware - not strictly because of any design choices built into the game.

All I'm saying is that I don't agree with the idea that certain "types" of games should remain on one system (or type of system).  Obviously, I want a good game - and, ideally, I want that game to take advantage of the strengths of the system it's on.  But if Nintendo was to release the same-ish game around the same time on both console and hand held, I'd be just fine with it - so long as both games were good games.

I mean, I've threatened more than once to create an army of the undead to storm Nintendo HQ and demand an American release of Trace Memory 2 - and I know there's more than a few of you who'd agree with me on that.  What about a Professor Layton Wii title?  Would anyone complain that we already have those on the DS?  (Yeah, some of you would.  You can just quit gaming now.).  If the game is good, I don't care what system it's on... as long as it's a Nintendo system. ;)
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2010, 01:07:36 AM »
Its the law of limited resources that is why it is ports or nothing.

Nintendo has to develop games for the Wii, DS, and the new not even released 3DS.  Obviously, the design teams are going to be most focusing on games coming out this year on the Nintendo Wii and DS.

Also, these port projects were most likely TESTING GROUNDS for the 3D.  To make sure these games work.  As I mentioned before...using existing games and existing code and modifying them for 3D is much easier than creating new game experiences for test experiences.  We have no idea how easy or difficult it is to reprogram these games into 3D.  Perhaps Nintendo has found a simple solution to that.

As for Ports or not.  Even if the game is just a simple port with upped graphics and 3D, it still is the first time these games are playable on a portable system.  Which means you can play some of the best games ever created on the go.  Plus, there still might be added content like mentioned before.

Plus, they may not be full retail priced games...they may be downloadable games for the system...Nintendo stated downloadable games will be available at launch.  So everyone really needs to stop complaining.  We are getting a great Zelda launch game...that some have already played...big deal.  Don't buy it then. 

However, to think we could get a NEW Zelda 3DS and a NEW Star Fox 3DS and everything else Nintendo has shown us this for launch is shocking.  I would rather think Nintendo fans are very spoiled brats sometimes. 

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« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2010, 01:12:33 AM »
These are more or less tech demos, like Wii Sports and Wii Play were, made just to test the capabilities of the hardware, but then released commercially.
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« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2010, 01:42:32 AM »
I never once said i expected a new Zelda or Starfox at launch and I never would. Well starfox maybe but not something like Zelda (we all know TP doesn't count), so i'm hoping that "brat" comment isn't meant to be directed at me, especially since i'm not trying to argue with you Spak.

I've said before I understand these are TESTING GRONDS but they could've also tested GC games but didn't, most likely because starting with N64 titles is easier, and because of how recent GC games are in comparison ports of those titles wouldn't sell as well because even with younger fans, they're fresh in peoples gaming life. I mentioned earlier how there are youngens out there that think WW is the first Zelda game, I'm sure we've all come across kids like that and you can't blame them for being born after a video game era or being too young during one. Obviously the best situation for Nintendo is to test 3D engines on relatively simpler games that if succesfully reproduced could be released as ports. There's NOTHING wrong with releasing a port and I've never once thought so, especially if its advanced in some form. I even mentioned that it's a good business move.

The point I'm trying to get across is that it would've been nice if instead of spreading their already thin resources on testing game codes and engines on this new hardware and touching up those games to release as advanced ports for launch, if those same resources already testing engine and code used them for newer experiences. I also touched base on the fact that the release date for 3ds shouldn't be set in stone. Did Nintendo even confirm that it'd be coming out next year?

Again, I'm only now catching up on all the E3 info, mainly thru posts here and not really watching videos of the conference itself. Back when the 3DS news was blurted out by Nintendo, didn't they say it'd launch in 2011? Why? The isn't the DS still making tons of money? At the time they released the news there wasn't even a confirmation of a PSP2 (and as far as I know there still isnt..?) so whats the rush to release it? All those devs they had tinkering with OoT's code and engine could've gotten it to work on 3DS with all the stereoscopic imagery in place and turned OoT into a new game (zelda or not) if Nintendo just decided to hold off on launching the system when those new games were ready.

I also mentioned that these ports should be budget priced, but a budget price as a downloadable game is even better. I forgot that the DS now has a download service, so I didn't even think that OoT 3D could be a type of VC game for cheaper than it would if it were retail. Again, that'd just be another smart business move on Nintendo since downloadable games are more prone to impulse buys than retail games.

One last thing, and again only if you're referring to me directly, Spak;

Go back and read my initial post and you'll see mentioned that i'd buy the game if the enhancements were worth it and if it was priced lower than a new game. The fact that it's in stereoscopic 3D and will have crisper graphics isn't enough. Neither is the fact that it'd be portable, as I'm not the biggest portable gamer anyway.
Adding the Iron Boots to the weapons menu as opposed to the "armour" menu and letting you use them the way we were able to in TP isn't enough either. If it adds those 2 dungeons you yourself mentioned i'd consider it. If (the game was sold at retail) and included both OoT and OoT: Master Quest I'd be more inclined to buy it. If (again sold at retail) was a compilation of OoT AND Majoras Mask (AND with added dungeons) then I really wouldn't have a choice but to buy it.

If it all it ends up being is a slightly prettier game, in stereoscopic 3D and with the Iron Boots placement being changed around, then I'll skip it. No big deal. It's not the end of the world. I won't sit on my high horse calling the people that do morons, fanboy or apologist. It's not my place, it's not my style its Ians :P lol sorry I'm ripping on you so much dude.

On a sidenote, I'm tired of typing out "stereoscopic 3D" to differentiate the 3D imagarey vs 3D gameplay. Thanks Nintendo ;)
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« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2010, 02:01:10 AM »
NO, not at you.  Just Nintendo fans in general that can't be happy.  I do not believe I would target any individual not even Ian.  But Nintendo fans in general expect too much.

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« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2010, 02:04:23 AM »
Normally I would agree to that, but I don't think it is expecting too much/being unreasonable to want/expect new games with a new system launch instead of ports and remakes.

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« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2010, 02:10:18 AM »
That's not an unreasonable thing to expect, and if we weren't also getting new games in addition to the ports you might have a point.
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« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2010, 02:14:24 AM »
Normally I would agree to that, but I don't think it is expecting too much/being unreasonable to want/expect new games with a new system launch instead of ports and remakes.

A) There are new games.  From Nintendo alone:
Port-ish: Animal Crossingâ„¢
NEW GAME - Kid Icarusâ„¢: Uprising
Somewhat new game - Mario Kartâ„¢
Somewhat new game - nintendogsâ„¢ + cats
NEW GAME - Paper Marioâ„¢
NEW GAME - PilotWings Resortâ„¢
Port - Star Fox 64â„¢ 3D
BRAND NEW IP - Steel Diverâ„¢

B) No one knows what games will be available at launch.

So, yes, I would say that those complaining about it at this point are being unreasonable.
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« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2010, 02:28:58 AM »
Are you sure that's an accurate assessment? It sounds like Animal Crossing has quite a few new features, making it at least in the new-ish category, and I don't think enough was shown of Mario Kart to declare it somewhat-new instead of putting it in the new category (unless some retro tracks were shown that I missed).

I guess we don't yet know what's coming at launch, do we? But Nintendo's track record doesn't look good, as their last three handheld launches (DS, GBA, GBC) had only ports from Nintendo. I think that's why some people may be worried.

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« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2010, 02:35:46 AM »
I was being generous to the "no new games" crowd when I handed out the labels to those titles.

Anywhoo, it's my opinion Nintendo goes light at handheld launches so third party titles have a chance to sell.  Imagine if Nintendo launched the 3DS with just half that set of titles.  How many third party games do you think would sell? ;)
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« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2010, 11:07:54 AM »
I called

Super Mario Kart as being the "Mario" launch game for 3DS.  I am calling that a day one brand new game.

Sure it may use an updated engine we already have, but I 100% believe it will be a new game, with new tracks (as well as retro tracks) and new modes.  And, it is a PERFECT launch game.  The 3D effects will be a great asset, and the game will be great intro to whatever online scene Nintendo will have with the 3DS. 

But the list above proves greatly how Nintendo is working on the best launch lineup it has ever had for a system...and the 3D party support is enormous as well. 


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« Reply #65 on: June 17, 2010, 11:17:25 AM »
This isn't really a good thing, but, given the tech level of the 3DS, I can see third parties releasing the same game simultaneously on 3DS and Wii.
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« Reply #66 on: June 17, 2010, 11:41:50 AM »
Anywhoo, it's my opinion Nintendo goes light at handheld launches so third party titles have a chance to sell.  Imagine if Nintendo launched the 3DS with just half that set of titles.  How many third party games do you think would sell? ;)
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« Reply #67 on: June 17, 2010, 11:51:07 AM »
I don't think it's a coincidence that that was the same launch where Nintendo's only game was a port of everyone's least-favorite Mario game sorry, Mop it up.
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #68 on: June 17, 2010, 12:22:46 PM »
It doesn't have to be port or nothing but that's usually how they time it in the release schedule.  I don't think anyone craps on the VC because the VC is never used to take up the release date of where a new game would fall.  It is treated clearly as a seperate service to sell vintage games.

But when Nintendo releases an on-the-shelf port the timing of the release is always by itself.  It's in a "slot" where a new game is supposed to be.  So instead of waiting 3 months for a new title, you wait 6 because where a new game was supposed to be released Nintendo released a port instead.  It's not to compliment new titles, it's to REPLACE a new title.

When I think of re-release I think of how Final Fantasy Anthology on the Playstation was released within a month of Final Fantasy VIII.  The re-release was clearly meant to compliment the release.  They didn't use that in place of a new Final Fantasy.  Nintendo never released a GBA Mario game and they had four Mario ports.  You think that's a coincidence?

When Ocarina of Time Master Quest was released that was a complimentary release.  It came out shortly before Wind Waker.  It did not take the place of a new Zelda.  It was actually beyond the call of duty since it was a pre-order bonus.  Or you look at something really exceptional like the Resident Evil remake.  That came out the same year as Resident Evil 0.  It's actually good enough to "count" as something new and we still also got a new Resident Evil!

I don't trust Nintendo on this because in the past if you got say 4 new games a year, in a year with a port you don't get 4 and a port, you get three.  The port takes up the slot of a new release.

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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #69 on: June 17, 2010, 12:27:09 PM »
For the last time: there are two ports at E3, alongside a whole bunch of original titles. You people seem to be ignoring all the original games and getting all bent out of shape about the ports as if that's all they had.
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #70 on: June 17, 2010, 12:30:49 PM »
This isn't really a good thing, but, given the tech level of the 3DS, I can see third parties releasing the same game simultaneously on 3DS and Wii.

That could be a good thing, at least if it gets some devs to finally stop ignoring the Wii (I'm looking at you Namco and Capcom...)
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« Reply #71 on: June 17, 2010, 07:18:23 PM »
I don't think it's a coincidence that that was the same launch where Nintendo's only game was a port of everyone's least-favorite Mario game sorry, Mop it up.
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« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2010, 07:54:51 PM »
NO, not at you.  Just Nintendo fans in general that can't be happy.  I do not believe I would target any individual not even Ian.  But Nintendo fans in general expect too much.

Thats something we can both agree on :P

It woulda been nice to see some more new games and less ports, no matter how enhanced, but I'm not gonna boycott the games, they just won't be on the top of my list at launch. As I said earlier however, there's still no knowing this is all we'll get anyway, Nintendo's been known to announce surprise titles and release them soon after, so there's no telling what'll happen.

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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2010, 07:59:14 PM »
Unfortunately, a surprise announcement/release is also probably part of the reason no one bought ExciteBots. shame on all of you.

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« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2010, 08:25:18 PM »
Unfortunately, a surprise announcement/release is also probably part of the reason no one bought ExciteBots. shame on all of you.

How do you explain why no one bought ExciteTrucks? ;)
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« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2010, 08:34:35 PM »
Wasn't it a million-seller?

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« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2010, 08:44:20 PM »
Not according to VGChartz (for what that's worth to ya...)
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« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2010, 08:55:23 PM »
470k? Huh. I'm not sure why I thought that, then. Still, that's more than three times as much as ExciteBots and its total of 150k, most of which happened when the game became discounted by practically every retailer.

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« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2010, 10:17:25 PM »
ExciteTruck probably sold to a lot of people because it was a launch title and a first party title - pickings were slim at the time.  ExciteBots likely didn't sell to anyone who wasn't already interested in ExiteTruck - and a lot of the people who got ExciteTruck probably didn't feel like they needed another.
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #79 on: June 18, 2010, 12:02:25 AM »
Unfortunately, a surprise announcement/release is also probably part of the reason no one bought ExciteBots. shame on all of you... Except Me, EasyCure, Maxi, Zap & True Blue

There ya go.. fixed it for ya :)

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« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2010, 12:31:29 AM »
Hey, I've got it (The edition that came with the Wii Wheel!) And ExciteTrucks, so suck it. :P
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2010, 12:33:52 AM »
Hey, I've got it (The edition that came with the Wii Wheel!) And ExciteTrucks, so suck it. :P

I will not suck it, as i bought both games (though not the one with the Wheel since I never even use the one that came with Mario Kart Wii). YOU suck it.
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« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2010, 12:37:10 AM »
Then why have we never played it?

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« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2010, 12:56:38 AM »
Hey, I've got it (The edition that came with the Wii Wheel!) And ExciteTrucks, so suck it. :P

I will not suck it, as i bought both games (though not the one with the Wheel since I never even use the one that came with Mario Kart Wii). YOU suck it.

I bought the Wii Wheel edition, so Nintendo loves me more. :p

Then why have we never played it?

You know, I don't think the two of us have ever played anything online together.

Truth be told, I just don't play that many Wii/DS games online.  I greatly detest the friend code structure and losing everything on my Wii has even killed the part of me that still liked to play Mario Kart and Brawl (in spite of its many flaws) online (or offline, for that matter).
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2010, 02:28:36 AM »
If we did play something, the only time would have been during one of the SSBBrawl or Mario Kart Wii Wi-Fi nights that happened some time ago.

I can understand losing your data putting a damper on things. That's a worry I have myself, since I've heard of corrupted internal memory being the biggest issue with Wii hardware. It has even happened to someone I know. It's caused me to resort to homebrew to back up my data. Anyways, now's the time to start new online games! Animal Crossing! Monster Hunter Tri!
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« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2010, 02:33:15 AM »
Animal Crossing was one of the games who's data I lost. :(

Now I'm sad all over again.
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« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2010, 02:44:45 AM »
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« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2010, 05:53:29 AM »
If you remember what you had, you could create a hacked town with all your stuff.

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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2010, 06:31:10 PM »
This is Malon 3DS NOT Exciteburps discussion, numnuts.

The 3DS has some nice features, but I don't know how far they're going to take this port; I think the gyroscope shake could be used to shake free from those  Redeads (shudder), but what about whistling into the microphone to play Ocarina songs? That'd be rad.
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« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2010, 10:26:04 PM »
Since when did our sweet little Mop it up become a crazy pirate hacker? ;)
Since Nintendo created a poor system memory manager.

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« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2010, 06:37:30 AM »

Where in the world did you find that image?
I made it myself. Though it took way too much effort. Paint is terribly inadequate for what I wanted to do. I need to go out and buy good editing software.

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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2010, 10:43:10 PM »
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« Reply #94 on: June 20, 2010, 06:51:19 AM »
That's the name of the free one! Thanks. I knew there was one, but didn't remember it's name.
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Re: Ocarina of Time Remake for the 3DS: Malon in 3D!
« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2010, 05:48:15 PM »
In my dream, these N64 remakes would get bundled into one package: 

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« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2010, 07:10:42 PM »
Like Super Mario All-Stars, which remains as the best compilation ever. But once Nintendo realized that people are willing to pay for each game individually, sometimes at full price or close to it, they have never looked back.

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« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2010, 07:35:50 PM »
I am very pleased that so many people are excited about this re-imagining of one of the great classics and hallmarks of the history of video games.  Fans and hardcore gamers have been asking for a remake to this game for a long time, and seeing an opportunity to apply our new 3-D technology to a classic (as well as transfer development tools to our new platform), this decision was easy to make.  :reggie:

There is some criticism that we are "recycling old content."  I would say this is a good point, however we did not lead our 3DS presentation with this game.  We silently announced this game during the Electronic Entertainment Exposition in order to please our fans that follow us like hawks, and most are ecstatic. :reggie:

I, too, also hope our strongest critics please make sure their criticisms are the thoughts of their own feelings, and not the cheaply-attained, phony outrage that the internet is known for.  It would be embarrassing for one of our strongest critics to consider the possibility of a purchase of a remake to one of our greatest games, only to turn one hundred and eighty degrees and chide us when we provide it along with new games a scant month later.  One would think his opinion is not genuine, that he is impossible to please, and that he is a slave to argument in lieu of open discussion. :reggie:
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« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2011, 03:29:05 PM »
Looks like OoT 3D is not being handled internally by Nintendo.

http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/...?OpenDocument


As according to the Classified Database of AUS, it's being handled by Grezzo Co. LTD., the same people that did Line Attack Heroes.


So that leaves you to question, What is Nintendo's portable Zelda team working on right now? What is EAD working on besides Skyward Sword?
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« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2011, 04:18:51 PM »
The 2nd half of 2011 lineup?
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« Reply #100 on: April 12, 2011, 04:36:29 PM »
So it isn't launching in Australia where it is for everyone else?
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« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2011, 02:12:29 PM »
I'm guessing that is true.

In case it hasn't been posted here this game is going to have the Master Quest game. Also it has a Boss Challenge mode where you can go and fight the bosses in succession.
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« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2011, 02:15:54 PM »
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« Reply #103 on: May 01, 2011, 07:26:24 PM »
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« Reply #104 on: May 01, 2011, 10:40:30 PM »
Can't wait for this! I don't think the original looks bad enough to be unplayable, like most ps1 games. The game seems to upscale well on my tv. I do welcome this update though, to bad the colour palette was messed with a bit.
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« Reply #105 on: May 03, 2011, 04:59:18 AM »
Saw this posted on Neogaf.   A new trailer.    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR1pdOX_gQE  Thought I would link it here for anyone who hasn't seen it.

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« Reply #106 on: May 03, 2011, 10:28:54 AM »
I'm really loving the new graphics. That trailer made me badly want to play this game again from one of the 3 GC discs I have it on, but I'm going to wait for the 3DS version.
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« Reply #107 on: May 03, 2011, 11:07:49 AM »
I haven't replayed Oot since I got my 4 Zelda game disc for game cube..    It's been close to a decade now.   So I have been fighting the urge to replay it, waiting till I get my 3ds copy.  :)

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« Reply #108 on: May 03, 2011, 12:17:17 PM »
The most common complaint I've seen is the lack of changes to the soundtrack. Sure, they could've gone with orchestrations as they suggest or just remixing them, as the Star Fox 64 theme is, but the original soundtrack is great so it's not that big a deal to me.


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« Reply #109 on: May 03, 2011, 12:21:30 PM »
I would hope it at the very least by cleaned up a little.
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« Reply #110 on: May 03, 2011, 07:08:58 PM »
Link doesn't have individual fingers. WTF is this? Not a dealbreaker, but it shows the lack of effort put into remaking one of the most beloved and popular games of all time. Seems like a wasted opportunity.

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« Reply #111 on: May 03, 2011, 08:49:14 PM »
I just hope that when you get the Giant's Knife, Link doesn't hold it in one hand when you hold down the R button yet still doesn't raise his shield. That always bothered me. Clearly he can hold the sword in one hand, so why can't he hold his shield in the other?

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« Reply #112 on: May 03, 2011, 09:39:19 PM »
I just hope that when you get the Giant's Knife, Link doesn't hold it in one hand when you hold down the R button yet still doesn't raise his shield. That always bothered me. Clearly he can hold the sword in one hand, so why can't he hold his shield in the other?

Because it's the balance (or penalty, if you will) to using the Giant's Knife.
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« Reply #113 on: May 03, 2011, 09:52:10 PM »
I think she's taking issue with Link's animation while holding the shield button. Link holds the Giant's knife with one hand when he should be holding it with two hands because the game tells you it's too heavy to hold with one hand. That was an odd choice.

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« Reply #114 on: June 02, 2011, 03:45:46 AM »
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« Reply #115 on: June 02, 2011, 04:09:15 AM »
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« Reply #116 on: June 02, 2011, 08:10:01 AM »
We got our review copy in today. I'm about to meet Princess Zelda (feels like the very first time!). Any questions, post them here. I'll try to respond.

Have you encountered the orchestrated music yet, any new music? I know in a recent Iwata asks there is supposedly something in the game that is orchestrated.
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« Reply #117 on: June 02, 2011, 10:24:26 AM »
How is the animation? 
Any points where you're looking at it and going "This is definitely  better than I remember." 
Any points where your sure something is different?
Is "Hey, Listen" still in? 
Is the field still super barren?
Is the 3D done well or just sorta there?
Is playing it an act of Muscle Memory now?
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« Reply #118 on: June 02, 2011, 12:21:35 PM »
GoldenPhoenix - Read that right before I started playing, but haven't noticed anything yet. Only just got to Kakariko Village. About to dive into more of it today.

Ceric - Animation is good. I really love the improved art style, and there have been many times where I've been impressed by how it looks. It's like a really distinct memory that's better than you remember.

"Hey, Listen" is still in there.

Hyrule Field is still barren.

3D is really nice. Particle effects are where it stands out the most, though I didn't realize how many moments there were in the game that are gimmicky 3D moments. There are a lot "tossing things at the screen" and "things coming out at you," though with the way the 3D works on the 3DS (more like a diorama that you're looking into as opposed to the screen reaching out to greet you), it's not mind-blowing. The 3D is just really nice.

It's been several years since I've played it, but I did get to Hyrule Castle Town in about an hour, which I feel is outrageous.
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« Reply #119 on: June 02, 2011, 01:28:32 PM »
how do the climbing vines look? they were the ugliest part of the original game.

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« Reply #120 on: June 03, 2011, 03:13:11 PM »
how do the climbing vines look? they were the ugliest part of the original game.

The look a lot better. I'll take a video at some point in the next two days and show it off, just for you. Though, for some odd reason, we can only take 30-second clips.
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« Reply #121 on: June 03, 2011, 03:16:12 PM »
Startin' to want this game.
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« Reply #122 on: June 03, 2011, 03:20:00 PM »
how do the climbing vines look? they were the ugliest part of the original game.
The look a lot better. I'll take a video at some point in the next two days and show it off, just for you. Though, for some odd reason, we can only take 30-second clips.
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« Reply #123 on: June 03, 2011, 04:01:08 PM »
No, but I can use a regular ol' camera to show off the game mildly clumsily.
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« Reply #124 on: June 03, 2011, 10:31:47 PM »
When you get the Giant's Knife, can you tell me if Link still holds the sword using one hand when you hold the shield button?

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« Reply #125 on: June 04, 2011, 12:59:10 AM »
I like how Link now moves is legs slightly when jumping from a ledge. How are you liking the reworked colour? From the videos and screens ive seen, they did mess with tone a bit.
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« Reply #126 on: June 04, 2011, 07:11:04 AM »
Overall how do you feel on the gyroscope controls?   It's something that kinda intrigues me, but I think in the end will be too much of trouble in most of my play situations.

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« Reply #127 on: June 04, 2011, 11:32:34 AM »
Overall how do you feel on the gyroscope controls?   It's something that kinda intrigues me, but I think in the end will be too much of trouble in most of my play situations.

Actually, I really dig it. It's nice having that ability to fine tune your aim with the gyroscope instead of the Circle Pad. I thought it would be dumb, but it's a nice (and completely optional) touch.

Naturally, in fast-paced situations I wouldn't advise using it, but for slow-paced puzzles, it's kind of refreshing.
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« Reply #128 on: June 04, 2011, 11:53:19 AM »

Actually, I really dig it. It's nice having that ability to fine tune your aim with the gyroscope instead of the Circle Pad. I thought it would be dumb, but it's a nice (and completely optional) touch.

Naturally, in fast-paced situations I wouldn't advise using it, but for slow-paced puzzles, it's kind of refreshing.

Nice!!   That is just what I was hoping to hear!   Can't wait to try it out myself.

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« Reply #129 on: June 07, 2011, 08:08:27 AM »

For epic boners use the eShop to view screenshots of OoT. It maps the entire thing over both screens. Looks so lovely :)
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« Reply #130 on: June 07, 2011, 09:43:17 AM »

For epic boners use the eShop to view screenshots of OoT. It maps the entire thing over both screens. Looks so lovely :)
But the top that should be 3D in those screens is 2D... Blah.
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« Reply #131 on: June 07, 2011, 09:46:42 PM »
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« Reply #132 on: June 15, 2011, 05:55:27 PM »
Everyone knows that Robin Williams has a daughter right? No? Oh, well he does, and he named her Zelda... yes like Princess Zelda and yes she was named after Princess Zelda.
pssst! over here... I hear that Robin Williams is a big Nintendo fan.

Anyway, Princess Zelda... I mean Zelda Williams is doing a "Super Secret Nintendo Shoot" because apparently she is a model/actress and apparently doesn't realize that it is no longer a secret if she is not only telling us about it, but sharing pics of it with us.

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Unfortunately, the currently shared pics don't show anything about what she is doing a shoot for (So I guess it is still a secret ;) ), but that doesn't mean we can't speculate.

Anyone have any guesses?

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http://twitter.com/#!/zeldawilliams/status/72651576526897152
http://twitter.com/#!/zeldawilliams/status/72714551078027264
http://twitter.com/#!/zeldawilliams/status/72770208204468224


Zelda Williams "Super Secret Commercial" is revealed.

Also starring Robin Williams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bINUfbLV_0M


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« Reply #133 on: June 21, 2011, 05:55:22 AM »
Picked the game up today, and am quite impressed. The visuals make it seem like a whole new experience, they are wonderful, and the 3D adds a nice touch to them (easily the most impressive 3D I've seen on NDS, it is so clean and vibrant). Nintendo did a great job with this, it in no way feels like a lazy port or remake. It would be nice to have some more extras, still the game is fantastic, looking forward to completing it again!
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« Reply #134 on: June 21, 2011, 10:42:19 AM »
lol.  One of the comments is that Robin Williams should be Tingle in a Zelda movie.
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« Reply #135 on: June 21, 2011, 02:43:41 PM »
Ugh. For all that Nintendo does that upsets and annoys me they can at the same time do something that makes me glad they are still around and why I stick with them. My copy of OoT arrived today and just finished up the Great Deku Tree. The game looks and plays great. I forgot how much I enjoyed playing it. The last time I played it was years ago and that was on the N64. This really is the type of full feature game I want on the system...need on the system. Being able to play this in my chair with my feet up while being able to look up at the TV now and then is the combination that really is ideal to me.

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« Reply #136 on: June 21, 2011, 02:48:38 PM »
Ugh. For all that Nintendo does that upsets and annoys me they can at the same time do something that makes me glad they are still around and why I stick with them. My copy of OoT arrived today and just finished up the Great Deku Tree. The game looks and plays great. I forgot how much I enjoyed playing it. The last time I played it was years ago and that was on the N64. This really is the type of full feature game I want on the system...need on the system. Being able to play this in my chair with my feet up while being able to look up at the TV now and then is the combination that really is ideal to me.

It is amazing how well the game holds up. Its gameplay has aged perfectly.
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« Reply #137 on: June 21, 2011, 02:53:04 PM »
Ugh. For all that Nintendo does that upsets and annoys me they can at the same time do something that makes me glad they are still around and why I stick with them. My copy of OoT arrived today and just finished up the Great Deku Tree. The game looks and plays great. I forgot how much I enjoyed playing it. The last time I played it was years ago and that was on the N64. This really is the type of full feature game I want on the system...need on the system. Being able to play this in my chair with my feet up while being able to look up at the TV now and then is the combination that really is ideal to me.

It is amazing how well the game holds up. Its gameplay has aged perfectly.
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« Reply #138 on: June 22, 2011, 12:35:31 AM »
Ugh. For all that Nintendo does that upsets and annoys me they can at the same time do something that makes me glad they are still around and why I stick with them. My copy of OoT arrived today and just finished up the Great Deku Tree. The game looks and plays great. I forgot how much I enjoyed playing it. The last time I played it was years ago and that was on the N64. This really is the type of full feature game I want on the system...need on the system. Being able to play this in my chair with my feet up while being able to look up at the TV now and then is the combination that really is ideal to me.

Pretty well said.  My copy arrived today and I feel pretty close to the same way.  While sometimes I kinda rub my head and wish Nintendo would do this or that better.  I honestly love them for games like this.  I know a lot of people are not happy with a remake or port of an older game.  I just haven't played Ocarina of Time since about 2001.  So it's been about a decade.  The game just holds up so wonderfully.   

Having such a great game, with a wonderful and long gameplay experience on my 3ds is just wonderful.   I distinctly remember playing Ocarina of Time when it came out.  Imagining how someday I would be able to play such games on a future gameboy or whatever.  Now I have the same game in my pocket, with some pretty darn wonderful remade textures and effects.  It just..  Makes me smile.

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« Reply #139 on: June 22, 2011, 02:26:32 AM »
I'm already doing this for my own amusement, but I thought I'd mention it in here: I'm apparently live-tweeting my playthrough of this game. Mostly just sarcastic wise-ass comments. I'm @lordcorbran if anyone wants to follow along.
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« Reply #140 on: June 22, 2011, 05:51:52 AM »
"The guard at the Death Mountain gate seems like the first competent one in the game, until he's wearing the Pikachu mask on the job. "

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« Reply #141 on: June 23, 2011, 12:07:38 AM »
I bought it the other day and so far have "played" for about 5 minutes...and it's the best thing ever.
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« Reply #142 on: June 23, 2011, 01:04:53 AM »
I played with this for a few minutes at my cousin's place. They really did a makeover of the graphics. The geometry and textures are much improved, at least in Kokiri Village.

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« Reply #143 on: June 23, 2011, 01:07:03 AM »
I played with this for a few minutes at my cousin's place. They really did a makeover of the graphics. The geometry and textures are much improved, at least in Kokiri Village.

The game is definitely an example of one that looks FAR better in motion, then in still pictures.
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« Reply #144 on: June 23, 2011, 01:59:17 AM »
Over the years, I think people's memories have idealized how this game looks in their mind's eye. I played it a few years ago on the Gamecube special edition collection disc so it's a little more recent to me.

Almost any 3D game of that era looks rough now. As the Atari 2600 was to 2D, the Saturn, N64 and PS1 were to 3D.

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« Reply #145 on: June 23, 2011, 02:07:46 AM »
Atari did not have Malon.
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« Reply #146 on: June 23, 2011, 03:50:52 AM »
Over the years, I think people's memories have idealized how this game looks in their mind's eye.

This version actually looks as good as you nostalgically remember it looking. Probably a bit better than that, even.
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« Reply #147 on: June 23, 2011, 04:42:48 AM »
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« Reply #148 on: June 23, 2011, 09:50:16 PM »
I'm probably going to cry and/or jizz in my pants when I hear the Gerudo Valley song again. Best video game song of all time...love to play it on the guitar.
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« Reply #149 on: July 07, 2011, 10:40:27 AM »
It took me 60 hours and 31 minutes to finally complete this game. That includes both OOT 3D and the Master Quest. I had completed this game almost a week ago now so this post is a little late.  :-[

If I could only say one thing about the game it would be:
"The greatest game ever, just got better!"  ;D

The two things I wish they would have done was put in a Light Temple and make the enemies take more damage in the Master Quest.
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« Reply #150 on: July 07, 2011, 10:47:33 AM »
That game with the washed out NES stars like Little Mac.  Had a Rainbow... That looked interesting and didn't make it over.
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« Reply #151 on: August 01, 2011, 03:27:31 PM »
Nintendo has announced that the game has crossed the 1 million sales mark, making it the second 3DS game to do it (the other being Street Fighter, maybe three if you combine the three Nintendogs + Cats games together). It breaks down to about 270K in Japan and 810K in the US and Europe.
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« Reply #152 on: August 12, 2011, 09:41:20 AM »
I just beat the game.  Spent about 25 1/2 hrs.  I got 18 heart pieces and about 60 skultulas before I gave up on getting everything.  My biggest disappointments is that they didn't update the soundtrack and the combat.  There is no reason to have not modernized these.  All this keep it original stuff is bs in my opinion.  They update the graphics why not make fighting smoother and having a fully orchestrated soundtrack.  Other than that it was a ton of fun to play again.  Hope they do a Major's Mask 3D.  Also THE BLOOD WAS RED!

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« Reply #153 on: August 20, 2011, 03:53:33 PM »
I purchased OoT 3ds today, and i have to say nintendo did a really good job bringing that game back in 3d, the game runs smooth and the controls feel great, am having a great time, and since i know pretty much the whole game am just going around enjoying the view.
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« Reply #154 on: August 25, 2011, 09:56:27 AM »
The Legend of Zelda Chalk Mural Time Lapsed

It's pretty darn awesome seeing it appear.
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« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2011, 08:10:43 AM »
The Legend of Zelda Chalk Mural Time Lapsed

It's pretty darn awesome seeing it appear.

That's very impressive!
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« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2011, 10:43:41 PM »
I just beat forest temple today, and the boss battle is much easier with the 3ds gyro controls.
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« Reply #157 on: August 27, 2011, 08:58:48 PM »
I remember using it during that battle. It helped a lot. I honestly didn't use it that much more during the rest of the game, though.
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