Community Forums => NWR Mafia Games => Topic started by: stevey on July 17, 2010, 12:40:09 AM
Title: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: stevey on July 17, 2010, 12:40:09 AM
With the evil Clown's many victories his ambition has grown to the point of launching a full out blitzkrieg on the world! The brave town restaurant Plug and MG resisted but failed to slow the invasion down at the cost of their lives.
You shall not be forgiven McDon! Let this be our Final battle! (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/Burger_King_vs_Ronald_McDonald_by_T.jpg) Now with the whore powers and the help of points he can still pull a massive upset so what do you want to do? Pin the noise on the Godclown or surrender and join the McAfia?
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Toruresu on July 17, 2010, 12:49:37 AM
Wow.
I thought I was going to win this for the townies and just learned that the Mafia had been using me, since Day 1.
Kush sent his kills in advance, apparently, and Mop it up is the henchman.
Well, with that said, this will be my last mafia game. Just trying to make Mop it up feel baaaaaaddddd for this
Edit: For the record, I am Wendy.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Mop it up on July 17, 2010, 12:53:25 AM
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: stevey on July 17, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
"Damn this giant head is not made for combat." With a body made for loving instead of fighting the last hope of the world has fallen. And so the world has been destroyed (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/1264389942040.jpg)
Remaining Roles and Winners
The King of Satin (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/burger-king.jpg) McDonrenada (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/1182356192104.gif) Suck_it_Up: McDon regular (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/fat_mcd_kid.jpg) Wendy the recruited by rape Mobster Toruresu (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/Burger_Wars_by_GrouchoM.png)
Dead & Losers that failed to follow Rule 6 Vudu the killer (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/jack-and-the-king.jpg)
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Toruresu on July 17, 2010, 01:08:02 AM
Lol Stevey! I just realized that Kush won your game without even playing.
I feel so stupid to be honest. Stupid for thinking we actually had a chance. Man, I suck at Mafia!
Edit: Lesson learned. A person logging/not logging on the website means nothing! BAH!
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 01:14:45 AM
Well first of all thank you stevey for hosting this game.It was as good as the Hawtness game that you did before.
Second of all Khushrenada came up with a brilliant plan. He had the first 3 days of hits sent in. thatguy was the first hit.If thatguy was voted out it would fall to a Stratos hit. Day 2 hits I think had Jrlibrarian as the hit.If JR was voted out or killed it would be Stratos. There was a delimia we had with Stratos and Vudu.If Jr was voted out that would make stratos the hit.On the other hand if vudu was voted out he had the ability to take one person out in the game.If vudu was voted than Stratos could investigate someone. vudu was right about 2 of us in the Day 2 thread.Unfortunatly for the townies he also named a townie so maybe that put doubt into other players minds.The next day I was watching the thread and was pretty happy at what I was seeing.Everybody pointing fingers at everybody except the Mafia.noname2200 was voted out. He had made good points I feel later on in the day. Vudu was the hit that night. so thankfully we didn't have much to worry about.There was a few scenarios which could cause problems today.
Overall I think I did a bit above average.
As for the standout townies I think noname2200 was their best player.
As far as best player on the Mafia side I think if me and Mop it up didn't help Khushrenada's plan come together I don't think we would have won. We had to take a lot of risk.But since Mop it up was alive longer and helped in the end with gaining Toruresu's trust I think she should be the best player on the team. I had some good ideas for the game.While Khushrenada had ways of decieving players.
So yeah Mop it up was the best player.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 01:20:12 AM
Lol Stevey! I just realized that Kush won your game without even playing.
I feel so stupid to be honest. Stupid for thinking we actually had a chance. Man, I suck at Mafia!
Edit: Lesson learned. A person logging/not logging on the website means nothing! BAH!
That was one of the points Khushrenada made at the start of the game. That is why thatguy or Stratos was to be taken out.They think outside the box.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 01:24:09 AM
Did I win the game stevey.I don't see me listed up there...
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: stevey on July 17, 2010, 01:24:25 AM
My regret is not editing in a "must vote every three days or die" rule on day one to mess Khush up...
On the upside, no one is EVER going to trust Khush on anything he says or does ever again. :evil;
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Khushrenada on July 17, 2010, 01:25:48 AM
I told you this in a message but I'd like to state it publicly as well. Great game stevey. I think this should put all past hosting troubles behind you.
Toruresu: I hope you aren't feeling hurt. I'm not really sure what happened in the game since I played it safely away. I realize this might seem a hollow victory but it is more a reconcilitory gesture I think. That's the up and down of the game. There are games where I made wrong choices. But the good thing is, with every new game, the slate is new and you always get a chance to make a play you'll remember more proudly. If you don't want to play, that's fine. No one's going to force you. I just think if you're going to retire, do it on a high note, not when you feel low.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Toruresu on July 17, 2010, 01:31:59 AM
I told you this in a message but I'd like to state it publicly as well. Great game stevey. I think this should put all past hosting troubles behind you.
Toruresu: I hope you aren't feeling hurt. I'm not really sure what happened in the game since I played it safely away. I realize this might seem a hollow victory but it is more a reconcilitory gesture I think. That's the up and down of the game. There are games where I made wrong choices. But the good thing is, with every new game, the slate is crew and you always get a chance to make a play you'll remember more proudly. If you don't want to play, that's fine. No one's going to force you. I just think if you're going to retire, do it on a high note, not when you feel low.
No no no, I put spoilers tag there didn't I? *sigh* no. They were supposed to say "Trying to make Mop it up feel baaaaaaadddd".
Retire? No. Add me to the VOTE KUSH on day one group with stevey. Not really hehe
But dang it. In my mind, I was playing one heck of a game with the townies...sadly it wasn't so, and I learn that the last day, and in the worst way possible. Ah well, win some loose some. I do want my title changed to something related to this game, I've already msgd Vudu about it, I need something creative :P
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 01:37:09 AM
He He He I am on the loser side and I look disturbing. Anyway I know all Mafia members win in these games so stevey can leave that if he want.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Khushrenada on July 17, 2010, 01:44:41 AM
My regret is not editing in a "must vote every three days or die" rule on day one to mess Khush up...
On the upside, no one is EVER going to trust Khush on anything he says or does ever again. :evil;
I know. I knew if this plan worked I'm never going to be allowed to hide. But I liked the idea of hiding in the shadows and looming over the game like a deadly specter.
I had come up with this plan along time ago. In fact, the idea first started sparking in my head after Stevey's first hosted game. So, it's sort of come full circle. Once I saw my role and read the rules, realized the benefits of my mafia, I knew this was probably going to be my best chance to act. I took it and it worked. But as I told my mafia, I felt bad in the end because they ended up having to do most of the work. Left me feeling guilty. So, I give a hearty thanks to Maxi and Mop it up.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 01:53:15 AM
Well Khushrenada we did have a perfect setup for your plan as far as players go. I was really worried since there was lots of players on the other side that knew both me and Mop it up well.
I've actually have been thinking about my play some while reading over past games and I don't think I was good enough showing that I was a townie to everybody and not just certain people. I'll have to be more consistant going forward.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: that Baby guy on July 17, 2010, 02:27:41 AM
That's fun. On day one, I suspected vudu and Maxi. On day two, vudu, Maxi, and Mop it up. Then, after learning from Mop it up directly that she wasn't the killer or the godfather, I believed vudu, Maxi, and Plugabugz were mafia. From there, seeing that vudu had killed Dasmos and not me, I believed it wasn't Plugabugz, but rather Toruresu who was playing the godfather. Had I been in the game and paying attention, maybe I would have figured out that Khush sent everything in before-hand, but outside of it all, I didn't pay it much thought, save a little bit when stevey reiterated how is "order of hits" works.
That said, had I lived and decided to kill on day two, it looks like my initial lists were pretty good, and might've worked out nicely, but what's done is done. I really should've gone after someone the first night, like I wanted to with my first instinct, but it wouldn't have made a difference, I'm sure Khush had his hits in even before mid-day the first day, so I wouldn't have even gotten a chance for a hit.
It was fun. Now Khush and I actually need to work out the details of our game, I believe.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Khushrenada on July 17, 2010, 02:45:46 AM
Yeah, I had my hits all in on Sunday. I didn't plan on showing up again until I did now at the end of the day like I did today. I like a dramatic entrance. But when I came to NWR at work Monday morning, my account was still logged in there. I quickly logged out but it left my timestamp as Monday morning which bugged me. While that worried me, I knew that with time, I would still be passed over as an active player.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Stratos on July 17, 2010, 05:32:02 AM
Good fun. Congrats Mop it up and Khush on your victory.
Maxi, you have improved. I was suspicious of you, but you are getting better at not obviously being mafia.
I'm rather flattered that Khush viewed me as enough of a threat to make me the number 2 kill on the first two days. I did mention in the day two thread that we should off Khush if he doesn't show by day three just to be safe.
A pity I never mentioned NoName to Toru, as that might have allowed them to salvage a fight. But instead my attempt to shield my allies from potential harm I caused more damage.
Toru, I never tend to reveal everything to my allies in this game. Because if you really were mafia, I would have revealed all of my allies to you if I told you every one I've been talking too...though I then told Mop it up EVERYTHING. I trusted her way too much. I guess our working together so much in past games made me think I could trust her when I was in need. And she played along asking me questions and such while I blab on. :P
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 06:38:34 AM
I thought that stevey switched places with you two thatguy and Khushrenada? So that would leave you two at Mafia 48.
If that is the case than Dasmos has spot 46.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: vudu on July 17, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
DAMN YOU MAFIA! You could have won the game a day sooner if you had contacted me.
I suspected Mop it up was mafia on day 3--that's why I told her who I was targeting that night. But I wasn't 100% certain so I couldn't come out and tell her my plan. If you had let me kill Plugabugz on Day 3 and then you had killed someone else the game would have been over then. It would have been you two, me and one townie. I would have immediately joined you and the game would have ended 3 mafia vs. 1 townie. But NooooOOOOOOOOOOooooo you just had to kill me and drag this out an extra day. Nuts to that.
Also, Khush's win strategy pretty much shows how broken this game is--non-participation should not be a valid strategy. We really need to make it that you have to vote every single day or you die. It seems to be the only way to encourage people to show up and actually play the damn game.
Finally, night actions should not be prioritized by the order they were sent to the host. This is especially true when players are allowed to send in their night actions days ahead of time. That **** is broken, yo.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
Winning isn't everything vudu. Also if you were going to hit me that night why didn't contact me to say hey I want to work with the Mafia. If I recall correctly Stratos said you were going to work with the townies to get rid of the Mafia. Was that not true?
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: noname2200 on July 17, 2010, 12:07:01 PM
Yeah, I had my hits all in on Sunday. I didn't plan on showing up again until I did now at the end of the day like I did today. I like a dramatic entrance. But when I came to NWR at work Monday morning, my account was still logged in there. I quickly logged out but it left my timestamp as Monday morning which bugged me. While that worried me, I knew that with time, I would still be passed over as an active player.
Dude, hats off to you on this one. While I admit that this seems contrary to the spirit of the rules, it's a brilliant way to play according to the letter, so color me impressed. The fact that you identified all three of the non-mafia with power roles before the game began is especially awesome; how'd you pull that one off? When Stevey later said that people could PM their night actions days ahead of time I got a bit suspicious, but the fact that Stratos was knocked off on Day Two, after he'd revealed his role to everybody, convinced me that whoever was killing folks had to be an active player. Vudu warned me otherwise, but when combined with the fact that townies never got a PM, and that three of us didn't realize the game was until a few days later, I took your not logging in as a sign that you had to be a townie. I got suckered bad!
DAMN YOU MAFIA! You could have won the game a day sooner if you had contacted me.
I suspected Mop it up was mafia on day 3--that's why I told her who I was targeting that night. But I wasn't 100% certain so I couldn't come out and tell her my plan. If you had let me kill Plugabugz on Day 3 and then you had killed someone else the game would have been over then. It would have been you two, me and one townie. I would have immediately joined you and the game would have ended 3 mafia vs. 1 townie. But NooooOOOOOOOOOOooooo you just had to kill me and drag this out an extra day. Nuts to that.
Also, Khush's win strategy pretty much shows how broken this game is--non-participation should not be a valid strategy. We really need to make it that you have to vote every single day or you die. It seems to be the only way to encourage people to show up and actually play the damn game.
Finally, night actions should not be prioritized by the order they were sent to the host. This is especially true when players are allowed to send in their night actions days ahead of time. That **** is broken, yo.
You can switch sides?! :Q
Anyhow, I agree with all of your points. The only thing I'd add is that perhaps the next game might forbid PM-ing other players, so that everything that's said gets said in the public eye; I think that tends to make it more fun, since everyone has to watch what they say even more closely.
But dang it. In my mind, I was playing one heck of a game with the townies...sadly it wasn't so, and I learn that the last day, and in the worst way possible. :P: :
If it makes you feel any better, you played a role in lynching four people, and even led the charge the last two days. Only Mop it up and vudu can rival your kill count!
As for the standout townies I think noname2200 was their best player.
You're too kind. Seriously. All I did was spin my wheels for two days, then get killed off. My attempt to recruit more townies and get them to lynch Mop it up failed miserably when mysticgohan showed up a day late, khushrenada never answered (I wonder why...), and plugabugz basically said he didn't care and then voted for mysticgohan. Once plugabugz voted I basically gave up, and even went and accused toruresu of being mafia despite my uncertainty. I really need to improve at this game. :(
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Plugabugz on July 17, 2010, 12:11:58 PM
I'm confused.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 12:13:56 PM
I have a question noname.Did you really send that PM to toruresu saying that Khushrenada was online at some point and reading the topic?
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: noname2200 on July 17, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
I have a question noname.Did you really send that PM to toruresu saying that Khushrenada was online at some point and reading the topic?
Yeah I did. In hindsight, I read the "(Moderators: Khushrenada (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=8310), stevey (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=7404))" part and for some reason added them to the "_____ are viewing this board" list. A mistake on my part, but it was apparent that telling that to toruresu wasn't going to get me anywhere. And since I was confident that Mop it up was mafia, that vudu was going to kill me that night anyways, and that none of the three missing were going to show up to play I never bothered to say it.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Toruresu on July 17, 2010, 12:35:41 PM
I have a question noname.Did you really send that PM to toruresu saying that Khushrenada was online at some point and reading the topic?
Yeah I did. In hindsight, I read the "(Moderators: Khushrenada (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=8310), stevey (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=7404))" part and for some reason added them to the "_____ are viewing this board" list. A mistake on my part, but it was apparent that telling that to toruresu wasn't going to get me anywhere. And since I was confident that Mop it up was mafia, that vudu was going to kill me that night anyways, and that none of the three missing were going to show up to play I never bothered to say it.
You saying that convinced me 100% that you were Mafia. Then when I pointed it out, your reply "Oh noes, were caught" I totally read it as "darn it, I'm the only active mafia player and the Godfather, we are doomed!". I was so naive!
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: noname2200 on July 17, 2010, 12:40:14 PM
You seemed pretty convinced before that though, and your "awaiting your PM" PM-trap convinced me that you were already set against me. What confuses me is why you voted to lynch plugabugz the next day.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 12:47:51 PM
Hmm I can see that confusion noname.
Whenever I am pretty confident that I am going to die via night action. I put everything out in the open much like you did at the end of the day but I would have done it sooner though.A classic example would be Golden Phoenix's Punch Out Mafia. When you are dead you can't talk.
You are being voted for? So what! Vote to save your life put your reasons for the person you are voting for. Maybe people will see something that you typed that they missed.
Another thing, never give up. For the most part if you give up that means you are giving the other players a chance to vote for you. If you don't care if you live why should they? I have given up in the game a few times but later in the day I came back and kept on fighting. A certain player has helped me not give up even if they were on the other side. Classic example is thatguy's Earthbound Mafia.
As for the little tricks in the game if you play next game I can help point out some things to you.
Oh one other thing jrlibrarian you were right to question me helping you but in reality I would have pointed out things to you if you wanted my help.
I have helped new players in the past that were on the other side.Punch Out Mafia comes to mind. I usually vow to help new players in the sign up thread so that way the new player and I can work together.Also everybody in the game can see that I am helping you. If during the game I don't fill my end of the bargin then you can use that somehow.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: noname2200 on July 17, 2010, 12:50:59 PM
Good tips to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 12:59:09 PM
So are you playing next game noname?
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: noname2200 on July 17, 2010, 01:11:58 PM
Probably yes, depending on the timing.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 01:23:24 PM
If you get the time read over the Mafia games I mentioned it would be a good idea.Also check out my first game Sonic Mafia.Most of these can be found in the Mafia forum a few pages back. Sonic Mafia is in the Mafia Hall of Fame thread as well as many others.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Mop it up on July 17, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
Everyone always says they suspected me of Mafia even when I'm not, so I don't take it to mean anything anymore. I guess my innocent demeanor doesn't sit right with some people.
My apologies Toruresu. I was just playing the role I was dealt. I saw a way to achieve victory, and I pursued it. Trust me, you'd have done the same thing.
I'm rather flattered that Khush viewed me as enough of a threat to make me the number 2 kill on the first two days. I did mention in the day two thread that we should off Khush if he doesn't show by day three just to be safe.
...though I then told Mop it up EVERYTHING. I trusted her way too much.
You were number 3 on the list, jrlibrarian was number 2. You were on there because you know both Maxi and I too well.
And to be fair, I never told you I was townie or anything like that. I didn't offer to exchange information, you just started talking. Though, honestly, if I were in your position, I know I would have done the same thing. As soon as I investigated the killer and knew he knew me? I would have freaked. I probably would have even said it in the daily thread.
The only thing I'd add is that perhaps the next game might forbid PM-ing other players, so that everything that's said gets said in the public eye; I think that tends to make it more fun, since everyone has to watch what they say even more closely.
I've suggested this several times before. The problem is that there is no way to enforce it, so it would have to be done on the honour system. And I don't know if I'd trust people to follow that rule when the name of the game is lies and deception.
I suspected Mop it up was mafia on day 3--that's why I told her who I was targeting that night. But I wasn't 100% certain so I couldn't come out and tell her my plan. If you had let me kill Plugabugz on Day 3 and then you had killed someone else the game would have been over then.
I didn't have any control over the hits. Though why should I believe you would have done that? You already said you were going to work with the townies. One thing I've learned is to never trust a killer.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: vudu on July 17, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
I didn't have any control over the hits. Though why should I believe you would have done that? You already said you were going to work with the townies. One thing I've learned is to never trust a killer.
I was working with the townies at that point because it was the only thing keeping me alive. Stratos got lucky and investigated me on day 1. If I didn't work with them I would have been voted out on day 2.
You've been playing mafia long enough to know that my only goal in any game is to have my team win--in this case, me. Obviously, I could no longer win by myself. And I certainly can't become a townie and win with them. So my only reasonable win strategy after day 1 was to win by teaming up with the mafia.
I'm not sure if you realize this, but in the rules it states that if the killer and godfather can locate one another they can team up and win together. I was trying to reach out to the mafia but since I didn't know for certain you were one of them I couldn't flat out say "hey, I want to defect and join your team" my only hope was for one of you to contact me. If I had lived to day 4, I would have flat out said in the thread, "hey, the mafia godfather should contact me and end this game right this minute"; at that point the mafia would have outnumbered the townies and the game would have immediately ended.
Also if you were going to hit me that night why didn't contact me to say hey I want to work with the Mafia.
I'll fully admit that killing you wasn't in my best interest. I just didn't want you to win the game. :P
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 17, 2010, 05:15:40 PM
Well vudu I guess the feeling was mutual. :P
To go further into that I think if you were not really naming who the Mafia was on Day 2 you might of had a shot but you blew it by killing me.You had 2 of us pegged. The only really benificial thing you did for us was naming Toru as Mafia.That set up the infighting with the townies.Don't know if that was intentional on your part thinking that you would be living on day 3.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: vudu on July 17, 2010, 05:32:25 PM
Nah, since that was still on day two I was naming the people I honestly thought were mafia. At that point I thought the mafia would go for the sure thing and try to get rid of me rather than the somewhat more risky option of recruiting me. It wasn't until day 3 where it seemed like I might have a shot of getting in touch with the godfather.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Stratos on July 17, 2010, 07:46:06 PM
Vudu was legit at first. I'll vouch for him there. He co-sent his hit pm for Maxi to me. Granted, he could have then sent in a second pm changing it...but what can you do? You sometimes have to risk it with people for better or worse. (Vudu was better, mop it up...was way worse to trust).
And while vudu was encouraging a maxi hit, he gave me the final choice since our fates were bound at that point and I did give the word to hit maxi. I ALMOST jumped at my discomfort of Khush being MIA and sent in a hit for him that first day. But I decided to give him some more time to show in case it really was real life that had distracted him from the game.
I chose to search Khush instead and hit maxi with Vudu's strike, then I was going to search mop it up on day three and try to bandwagon Khush and order a hit if the bandwagon didn't take. Players like Khush are not to be trusted if they go MIA like that and this game proves it.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Mop it up on July 17, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
I'm not sure if you realize this, but in the rules it states that if the killer and godfather can locate one another they can team up and win together. I was trying to reach out to the mafia but since I didn't know for certain you were one of them I couldn't flat out say "hey, I want to defect and join your team" my only hope was for one of you to contact me. If I had lived to day 4, I would have flat out said in the thread, "hey, the mafia godfather should contact me and end this game right this minute"; at that point the mafia would have outnumbered the townies and the game would have immediately ended.
Actually, I was confused by what that meant. I thought the only way for you to become Mafia was if you killed the Godfather.
Though even if I knew that, I don't think it would have changed anything. You killing Maxi solidified my belief that you would help the townies. Also, by Day 3 it seemed as if Khushrenada's plan was working out great and soon victory would be ours. In order to change anything, I'd have had to contact Khushrenada and tell him to log in, and change his hit from you to someone else. This would have risked everything, so it wouldn't be worth it when it seemed as if the win was nigh.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Khushrenada on July 18, 2010, 02:50:17 AM
I did read that in the rules Vudu. But I also read the part about killing the godfather and taking his place. So, I was leery of the killer from the start. On Day 2, I got reports that Stratos found you and you said you wanted to work with the townies. We then pondered whether I should log on to off you or Stratos. I thought you might be bluffing and saying you would work with Stratos just to bump him off in the night. When we realized we couldn't stop your hit, we stuck with Stratos knowing that I had you for the hit tomorrow anyways.
With Maxi's death, we didn't think we could trust you. My hope was that you would wrongfully hit another townie on Day 3 and with that, we would have the game on Day 4 with a 2-2 tie. Unfortunately, a new twist came into play. By having placed such an advanced hit, I negated any hit you could make. The funny thing was, I didn't know that at first and told my team that you made the best choice possible by not hitting anyone since that kept the game going and could have led to some messy voting scenarios. Even worse, Mystic Gohan showed up and I really wasn't sure what might happen. But Mop was sure she and Toruresu were tight and she was right and it ended very smoothly.
I did know about the message you sent Mop it up regarding the Plugabugz vote. She wanted to know if she could trust that you would make such a hit. I figured you were trying to reach out to the mafia but we weren't sure if the intent was friendly or hostile at the point. If you had taken the chance and said that you wanted to team up with us in your post, we would have discussed the matter more with you. But with your intentions murky to us and the Maxi kill, it just seemed safer to stand pat and remove the danger you posed to us.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: vudu on July 18, 2010, 10:50:23 AM
Yeah, I understand. I probably would have gone for the safer route, too, had I been in your shoes.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Plugabugz on July 18, 2010, 10:53:57 AM
and plugabugz basically said he didn't care and then voted for mysticgohan. Once plugabugz voted I basically gave up, and even went and accused toruresu of being mafia despite my uncertainty. I really need to improve at this game. :(
After three days of falling behind and receiving my first PM from you i figured the mafia-standard scheming and plotting was too far gone to do anything about it. So i tossed a vote out.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: noname2200 on July 18, 2010, 09:13:32 PM
and plugabugz basically said he didn't care and then voted for mysticgohan. Once plugabugz voted I basically gave up, and even went and accused toruresu of being mafia despite my uncertainty. I really need to improve at this game. :(
After three days of falling behind and receiving my first PM from you i figured the mafia-standard scheming and plotting was too far gone to do anything about it. So i tossed a vote out.
Perfectly understandable. I just wish you'd tossed it in the direction I'd asked for, or at least one I could use! :'(
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Khushrenada on July 19, 2010, 02:10:11 AM
Why the heck is my score going up? I was like -17 by the end of the game and now I'm -7. Stop it dang it. I thought I was going to have the lowest score on the forum. It was awesome.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2010, 04:25:18 AM
Why the heck is my score going up? I was like -17 by the end of the game and now I'm -7. Stop it dang it. I thought I was going to have the lowest score on the forum. It was awesome.
Sorry...
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 19, 2010, 06:15:21 AM
Uh sorry Khushrenada I'll start smiting you in the morning.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Khushrenada on July 19, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Alright then. Apologies accepted.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: that Baby guy on July 19, 2010, 05:00:10 PM
Why the heck is my score going up? I was like -17 by the end of the game and now I'm -7. Stop it dang it. I thought I was going to have the lowest score on the forum. It was awesome.
Shall we be opposites?
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2010, 05:03:20 PM
You guys are like Ying and Yang.
Title: Re: XL-Value Mafia Day V!ctory or is it?!
Post by: Mop it up on July 19, 2010, 07:55:11 PM
I don't do negatives because that's mean.
But if you want it... then that creates a logical paradox.
