Topic: Resident Evil 6 is Apparently as Bad as Operation Raccoon City

[Adrock]

Is anyone planning on getting this?

I decided to pass for now since Wii U is launching next month and I'm convinced that it will see a port eventually. It's currently getting mixed reviews from most reviewers. Kotaku says it's getting "mauled" by critics though I wouldn't go that far by some of the reviews I've read. If there are major issues, hopefully they'll get ironed out when/if a Wii U version comes out.

It's kind of strange how Revelaitons had a much smaller budget and development team yet managed to get near universal praise while RE6 is the McKayla Maroney Not Impressed face across the board. I wonder what happened there. The only thing I can think of is the lack of Jill Valentine in RE6. It has to be.

EDIT: Sorry, posted this in the wrong place. Hopefully, a mod will move this to the General Gaming discussion. My bad.

[MagicCow64]

I wasn't optimistic about this game after RE5, but damn.

http://www.gamespot.com/resident-evil-6/reviews/resident-evil-6-review-6397185/

"Resident Evil 6 is a mishmash of elements put together without any sense of care or direction. Series faithful might stumble through for the sake of story, and perhaps to appreciate those few moments that recall when Resident Evil was at its peak glory. But this long, poor sequel is the ultimate test of patience for even the most dedicated. "

[BranDonk Kong]

Hmmm, based on the short bio about the person who reported it, this is the most meaningless review ever. I don't know of anyone that takes Gamespot seriously after the whole Kane & Lynch debacle.

[MagicCow64]

I dunno, if anything Gamespot tends to carry water for major releases. Either someone at Capcom USA broke this guy's heart or the game is actually in 5 territory. If so, it's hard to read as anything other than another sign of gaming industry crack-up.

[TJ Spyke]

Right now the Xbox 360 version has a 69 average on Metacritic, higher than the GameSpot score but still not very high. Destructoid gave it a even lower score (3/10).

[broodwars]

The game in general seems to be getting pretty mediocre reviews (5-7 scores), so I don't think GameSpot is that far off this time.

It doesn't surprise me, really. When I played the PS3 demo last week, I thought the game was god-awful so it doesn't shock me that the full game's apparently pretty underwhelming.

[ShyGuy]

What happened to Resident Evil? Where did it go wrong? Was it 4? 5? The movies?

[broodwars]

What happened to Resident Evil? Where did it go wrong? Was it 4? 5? The movies?

I think it started going wrong with RE5, though I will still defend RE5 as a good decent enough game for what it was (an action-packed finale to the Raccoon City "saga") even if I didn't altogether care for it in the end.  However, RE5 was where Capcom really started abandoning the horror elements of the RE series for mediocre 3rd person action set pieces, whereas RE4 still had elements of horror in it.  The movies are their own mess, though elements of them have infected the general game series in the form of set pieces and cutscene moments.

[Pixelated Pixies]

It was all down hill after that logo was revealed. A Giraffe and a Human Being should never engage in fellatio. I don't care if there has been a zombie apocalypse, it's still not right.

[nickmitch]

The things the negative reviews are saying (from Metacritic) really outweigh the positive reviews.

[xcwarrior]

Capcom is losing its way. I just hope they don't screw up Monster Hunter.

Got to remember people, this is the company that doesn't see a point to do anything for Mega Man's 25th anniversary.

[TrueNerd]

This is the best review I've read of the game, and one of the best game reviews in general I've read in a while. Just the link title alone is great.


http://killscreendaily.com/articles/reviews/why-resident-evil-6-devastating-parable-about-heroin-addiction/

Capcom is losing its way. I just hope they don't screw up Monster Hunter.


Got to remember people, this is the company that doesn't see a point to do anything for Mega Man's 25th anniversary.

Not nearly as unforgivable as not doing anything for Metroid's 25th anniversary. But that's for another thread.

[oohhboy]

RE5 was most definitely where it went wrong. The horrible inventory system, the focus on "Co-op" gameplay that turned the game into a giant escort mission. The horrible environments. It was an action game with no where enough ammo or effective way to conserve it. The awful cover system. GIVING THE ZOMBIES GUNS.

You could tell they were trying to replicate RE4 by turning everything up to 11, but they had failed to understand what made RE4 great in the first place resulting in a distorted mess of a game. RE:R has it's own flaws, but they weren't the sins RE5 committed.

[shingi_70]

Eh metroid isn't nearly as important to nintendo as megaman is to capcpom.

Really shocked to see the socres. I knew the game was going to be medicore and had me unhyped but I didn't think. It. Would be critcally panned pretty much across the board. I'm suprised it got a 39/40 in fatimsu.


Guess its time to reboot.

[Adrock]

Ignoring the fact that pharmaceutical companies are inexplicably creating Bio Organic Weapons, giving the zombie-esque dudes guns was only ridiculous to me because the gameplay didn't evolve enough/at all to make them work. In RE4, enemies were created around the additions and limitations of the gameplay. They were given axes and other melee weapons, but not guns because players didn't have the mobility to accommodate gun wielding bad guys (besides the slow Gatling gun quasi-mini-boss). In RE5, players still didn't and were barely bailed out by the fact that there were now 2 of you. While I liked RE5, it didn't really work as a single player game anymore and the co-op wasn't good enough to effectively ruin the single player experience.

Revelaitons did a good job of altering the gameplay enough to accommodate the more-zombie-like Ooze. Despite its relatively minor flaws, it had come closest to reconciling pre and post RE4 gameplay. Still, I think the series is really missing Shinji Mikami's direction and game design expertise.

From what I've read about RE6, excessive QTEs and mish-mash of ideas are the major strikes against it. Plot and dialog are also apparently still laughable, but I feel like that's part of the charm of the series. Killing of the series main villain in RE5 did kind of paint Capcom into a corner. Where does this leave Chris? I'm sure RE6 seeks to answer that one, but killing him off would change the series. It would give the impression that no one is safe and that the development team is willing to go all out though it still starts with the gameplay.

[ShyGuy]

So at out of the modern Resident Evil games, it goes:

RE4>Revelations>RE5>Umbrella Chronicies>Darkside Chronicles>RE6>Racoon City ?

[ejamer]

So at out of the modern Resident Evil games, it goes:

RE4>Revelations>RE5>Umbrella Chronicies>Darkside Chronicles>RE6>Racoon City ?

I feel like the Chronicles games are getting a raw deal here. They are pretty solid, although obviously trying to provide something very different than what the mainline series games are trying to offer. Being so different does make them hard to rate... but I'd probably put them over RE5.


Outside of that quibble, I mostly agree with your listing.  I'd also suggest that 5/6/RC are still worth playing, barely.

[Adrock]

I'm apprehensive about putting the Chronicles titles on the same list as the main games. They're good, but they're so different that they don't really belong in the same conversation. It'd be like listing Mario Kart alongside Galaxy.

Without having played RE6 (didn't even try the demo), Shyguy's list is pretty accurate. I'd need to play RE6 to see if it falls before or after RE5. Some of the complaints I've read about RE6 applied to RE5. Looking at RE5 in retrospect, I expect to like RE6 more.

[Pixelated Pixies]

I'm apprehensive about putting the Chronicles titles on the same list as the main games. They're good, but they're so different that they don't really belong in the same conversation. It'd be like listing Mario Kart alongside Galaxy.

I only owned Umbrella Chronicles, admittedly that was a few years ago, but I remember that game being pretty bad. It was plodding, boring, and the shooting simply wasn't all that satisfying. I remember the headshots in particular being really unsatisying (ranging from at best underwhelming to at worst laughable).
 
The one redeeming quality of that game, that I can remember, was that it was willing to poke fun at the series, as it brought back the terrible dialogue and voice acting as well as some of the more cheesey elements of the series. As an on-rail shooter though I thought the action was pretty woeful, especially when compared to the likes of Deadspace: Extraction and House of the Dead: Overkill.

[ejamer]

Yeah, headshots weren't satisfying at all, and the controls in general didn't feel as responsive as I would've liked. But the Chronicles games did sum up the story well, and offered a lot of content. (Maybe offering a lot of content isn't a good thing when you don't enjoy what's being offered, but I didn't mind the gameplay even though it was lackluster compared to Dead Space Extraction or House of the Dead.) Of course I would've preferred a "real" Resident Evil game... but a playable retrospective isn't so bad.

[Adrock]

I rented them for free when I worked at Holywood Video. I'm sure that contributed to my enjoyment of the games.

To get back on topic, has anyone here played more than the demo of RE6 yet?

[ShyGuy]

Maybe the Wii Chronicles game belong in the spinoff section with 3DS Mercenaries. Of course, do we put Operation Raccoon City in the spinoff camp as well?

I think technically one of the mediocre RE FPS games came out on the PS2 after RE4, but I don't know if that puts it in the modern Resident Evil column or not (Modern= RE4 and forward)

[Adrock]

I forgot about Racoon City Operation. I only played it for a little bit. It was okay. Like Mercenaries 3D, the gameplay retains the over the shoulder view so at least it's within the same realm as the main titles. I agree. We should probably consider them separate as well. If we count them, RCO would be last.

[broodwars]

I forgot about Racoon City Operation. I only played it for a little bit. It was okay. Like Mercenaries 3D, the gameplay retains the over the shoulder view so at least it's within the same realm as the main titles. I agree. We should probably consider them separate as well. If we count them, RCO would be last.

If you're going to do that with what is honestly a pretty terrible game from what I've played of it, you might as well toss the Gun Survivor and Outbreak games into that category as well.

[Stogi]

I haven't played a good horror game in a long time....

A shame really.