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Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« on: May 23, 2009, 09:43:43 AM »
"So this is my home, Star World," The Star Sprite cheerfully her guests, "we don't get many visitors up here so please make yourself at home for awhile."

No one heard her as the teams ran for cover and started firing again.

The flags had been hastily picked up by either team in the mad dash for cover.  The battle raged on, with both teams seemingly evenly matched.  The toads just did not have the combat training as the Koopas and although they were outnumbered the Koopas fought with skill. 

The fighting and yelling stirred up the Sprite Elders whom where quite upset.  They used magic to stop time, and tried to determine what was going on. 

During the stasis the toad carrying the flags realized he was missing a flag, and in fact had a Bowser flag.  And over at the Koopas they realized they had a Mario flag. 

Just then the Elders finished there meeting and decided to cast the entire lot into the minus world until they behaved as civilized guests. 

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 09:45:34 AM »
DEAD:

Shyguy Bowser Flag
Gyllidas Mario Flag

This could be the last day of the game...I just want to play it out just in case. 

This day will be open at least all of Saturday like a normal day.  After Saturday is over IF, IF everyone has voted I will close the day.  If not I will keep it open all of Sunday as well.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 03:44:07 PM »
other MARIO GUNNER???
obviously mop and I are aiming for Bowsers to vote out, so today you would be wise to join our side
which one are you Pap64, Stratos, or DrewMG?

vote DrewMG until he conbvinces me otherwise!
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 05:56:43 PM »
Ha.  Note, Vote a Bowser is not a legit vote.


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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 06:33:16 PM »
its a fill in. where is mop today?
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2009, 10:24:38 PM »
Vote Bowser as ONE UGLY MUG!

Might we have an advantage in that few people visit on the weekends?

Based on his voting pattern I would say the most likely Bowser teamer is...

Vote DrewMG!

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 12:03:18 AM »
time yo
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2009, 01:00:54 AM »
Not yet.  Remember since its a weekend day, time ends once everyone voted, or Sunday 11pm.

So, we have some time.  Besides this could be the last day of Mafia.  So we mind as well keep it going.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2009, 10:10:18 PM »
Vote Mop It Up or my name's not DrewMG.
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2009, 10:17:07 PM »
Vote Mop it up
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2009, 10:24:47 PM »
Our other Mario teamer must be Pap64. But he probably isn't going to show up before time is over.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2009, 10:26:54 PM »
Now the die is cast. Well played all. All we can do is wait, will, wonder...and wish 8)
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2009, 10:30:08 PM »
I wait, wonder, and wish that Pap64 shows up within the next hour and a half. If he comes and votes for DrewMG then team Mario will win, otherwise Stratos shall be the sole winner.

Looks like the strategy of non-participation truly is a winning one. I might have to try that next time...

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2009, 11:45:09 PM »
he's got 15 minutes
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2009, 11:51:27 PM »
This isn't looking good ThePerm. You were a great Mario team member, you really helped get our team together. We may have lost but you're definitely the Mario team MVP, and that's still something to be proud of.

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2009, 11:55:00 PM »
Dasmos was definitely our honorary member, without him we wouldn't have banded
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2009, 11:58:42 PM »
Yes, very well played, Perm and Co. I thought this was a great match up.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2009, 11:58:52 PM »
Dasmos definitely helped us, but he had ulterior motives. He played a good game but he was going to take us out if the Bowser team didn't.

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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2009, 11:59:34 PM »
...And...Game, Set & Match.
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2009, 12:00:13 AM »
at 9:00 pap64 is lvp for mario team!, mvp for bowser team, also do we win by majority?...its still 2 to 1, even if one party doesn't vote
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2009, 12:01:03 AM »
Time is up. 

DrewMG:  Bowser Flag is dead.
MopitUp: Mario Flag is dead.

Team Mario has lost all its flags and is unable to compete.

Team Bowser has 1 flag left.

Thanks Mop for the correction even though it means your team lost.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2009, 12:01:19 AM »
LOL, yeah, he's our honorary member. You can keep Dasmos.

Give Pap a cookie, will you, Spak?
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2009, 12:05:30 AM »
then again no flags are on our team or their team?
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2009, 12:05:57 AM »
I thought the winning conditions were when a team's flags were all "captured"? Team Bowser has a flag left but team Mario is just two gunners. So team Bowser wins.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2009, 12:06:52 AM »
I thought the same.

Thanks for hosting though, Spak. It was well balanced and your wove the story well.
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2009, 12:08:19 AM »
well if i had a chance to catch a flag it would be stratos, dasmos's intentions were'nt totally evil, he hope our team would win.

~STEALS PAP64's paintballs and shoot Pap and captures stratos. I think in future games there should be a screwjob rule, basically like how in contra and ninja turtles if your out of lives you could just steal the other players life, in this game youi could just steal the other players paintballs.
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2009, 12:13:14 AM »
Don't generals get unused paintballs of fallen gunners on their side? Or did I just make that up in my head?
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2009, 12:15:40 AM »
I will. 

Here is what is interesting about this game.  Bowser had all the good intel early on in the game.  Maxi actually found a Flag (Khush) and Mario on days 0 and 1 investigations. 

So he had some great intel to share with his team...however he didn't know who it was.  ThePerm decided to shut Maxi and Pale taking out both of them, if Pale hadn't lost the vote. 

Team Bowser had a great commanding lead, and 2 mistakes cost the game.  1 was a gunner accidentally targeting another Bowser gunner.  The other was not saving GP, which I got intel about her being their flag late to the Team because of my trip to Houston for the Korean Consulate.  However, everyone on that team was out for events anyway.

If GP had been saved, Team Mario could not have won.  The odds were just too stacked against them.

Another interesting decision in this game that played a huge part of the game was my no death for not voting policy and the tie kills both players decision. 

I decided early on, that if I allowed people to be wiped out for not voting, if somebody dropped out of the game it would cause a huge balance issue since it was basically two large teams going at it.  I was afraid that if any team figured its members out quickly and gained a large enough lead that it would be impossible to overcome.  So to avoid this issue the no kill policy for inactivity was formed.

As for ties I felt that the underdog should be able to pull a rally and eliminate players with a tie...possibly creating a large come back.  Besides in this game allowing the people to have lived would have just meant making the game longer without real benefit or strategy.

Both my policies had huge impacts on the game development.  I wish that Wario had a change to use his actions, or I had enough players for 2 Wario members.

What did you guys think of the balance of the game?  What worked and what did not? 

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2009, 12:18:51 AM »
I thought it was great. The only thing that could have made it better was having more people and more Warios. Though that might have upset the balance. It went back and forth enough to feel like no one team was truly dominating.
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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2009, 12:20:39 AM »
I thought the winning conditions were when a team's flags were all "captured"? Team Bowser has a flag left but team Mario is just two gunners. So team Bowser wins.

Good point.  Hmmm...let me check that.  Because if so I agree Team Bowser should win...I got so caught up on having the traditional vote everyone out I forgot about that eliminate of my own game.  It has been a very busy week for me.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2009, 12:21:53 AM »
"Flags:  Are a special Role on Team Mario and Team Bowser.  The Flags know who each other are and act to a similar way to mafia in traditional games.  The Mario Flags know each other, but can not attack with guns.  They can only be eliminated by either Vote Out, Capture, or Team Wario Attack.  The game is over when all the flags on one team is eliminated.  There will either be 3 to 4 flags per team."

HA.  Wow.  I have to say I was corrected about my own game.

Sorry Team Mario, but by these rules Team Bowser wins, even though you have more players.  Team Bowser still has an active flag.


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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2009, 12:31:00 AM »
Thanks, about the story I wanted to keep some elements throughout the game.

1)I wanted Mario to be Cocky and arrogant.  He is used to defeating Bowser and just assumes that he will take any match up against him.

2)Bowser I wanted to true militant king.  Smart, and ready to use army, but at the same time, just can't pull out that win.

3)Wario the "impartial" judge.  Every time a Mario member lost it seemed like Wario was cheating?  But why?  Does he have some unresolved issues with Mario?  I also wanted to incorporate the greed.

4)I wanted a chance to allow role playing and level changes (although it ultimately didn't happen) So I let the location of the previous day be center for the story, and made sure I had some sort of transition to the next location.

5)I tried to be funny, but I realized I was trying to hard, so instead I just wanted to make what I believed where clever references to the Mario universe.

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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2009, 12:31:29 AM »
To be honest I would have liked to have played more regular Mafia games before trying this one. Not because I don't think this was an interesting setup, but because I still haven't figured out the basic strategy for this game.

I couldn't figure out a good way to vote in this one. Because the teams are even, you can't really claim you are on the other team because your own team could end up targeting you. I don't think I could explain my votes without revealing too much.

So, yeah, I wouldn't mind trying this game again, but after a couple more regular games. I need more practice (and more losses lolsauce). More players would be nice though.

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Re: Mario Paintball World 0-0 Minus World
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2009, 12:33:21 AM »
Its time to explain myself...

The reason I didn't vote today was because I am sick and I was in the hospital all day long. In the evening I was on but didn't check the forums. I then went to bed.

Again sorry if I disappointed anyone, but I was under the weather.
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