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TalkBack / Atari Sells a Million Matrix in North America
« on: June 03, 2003, 12:26:03 PM »
These overwhelming numbers of bad games is starting to make me go crazy.

I am slowly going crazy, 1 2 3 4 5 6... switch.  Crazy going slowly am I, 6 5 4 3 2 1... switch.


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TalkBack / Package shots for Japanese Bundle Promo
« on: June 02, 2003, 04:09:53 PM »
Sweeeeet!!  :-)  Clever packaging can NEVER hurt.  It is nice to see that some effort was put into this.  I know it is simple, but I think it is a good sign of effort, something Nintendo seems to put in games but leave out of marketing (clean is better than dirty?).

Does anyone know why Spice (Orange) hasn't made it to the states yet?  I know orange is an odd color, but is it any more odd than Indigo?  I have a spice controller and like it very much.  

I hope the next nintendo console goes back to NES grey and red.  Yum!

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TalkBack / Annual E3 Award Nominees Announced
« on: May 29, 2003, 04:20:50 AM »
I am not denying the fact that many stores have rows of plastic cases covered in plastic wrap and filled with a circular disc which has code on it to be put in an xbox.  Not at all, i agree, there are rows and rows of just that for xbox.  They are nothing more.  Just because more people buy/rent these "games" doesn't mean xbox is better.  If that were the case, NSYNC would be the greatest band ever, or Britney Spears.  God help us all if that is going to be the measurement for all things, sales?  Yikes, i guess that means DBZ: Budokia is a better game than ZeldaWW and MetroidP combined!  Try thinking out side the (x)box canuck.

I am sure more peole rent xbox games.  They are so damn tired of palying Halo for the past 2 years they will play ANYTHING just to get some kind of change.  But there is no xbox game worth buying ($50!) so xboxers woudl rather just burn $4 of a rental.  I have never rented a gcn game.  If there is a gcn game worth playing, then it is worth buying.

Also,  Micro$oft needs to release a new machine.  They should just call it the Halobox.  Sell it with the release of Halo2.  It is a gigantic loud machine (much like xbox) that has Halo and Halo2 programed on the hard drive.  The machine doesn't have a disc drive or anything that could be used to play any other game.  Because there is not a SINGLE game on xbox that is worth owning (exclusive game).    

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TalkBack / Annual E3 Award Nominees Announced
« on: May 28, 2003, 04:09:11 AM »
The Cubedcanuck why would you even bother buying a Nintendo system if you are tired of Zelda and Mario?  Those two games WILL always be on their system (excluding Virtual Boy), and those two games will always be awesome.  I would not chalk this up to Nintendo having a bad show.  I am going to buy 4-5 of the games they had there.  Thats not bad considering more games will also come out this year.  Just because they showed off 2 of the greatest games of all time last year (Metroid and Wind Waker) doesn't mean this year was a bust.  

You want to talk bust, walk through the Xbox game aisle at your vid game store.  Funny how they showed off some games by Rare, i am sure the current Xbox owners grandchildren will enjoy those games (since they won't be coming out for some time).  Funny too, is Rare was working on most of those games while under Nintendo's payroll and watchful eye, and they STILL haven't come out with a game for the gigantic crap box.  

Does anyone know what the deal is with that "ghoulies" game by Rare, was it really that BAD?  

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TalkBack / Annual E3 Award Nominees Announced
« on: May 27, 2003, 02:46:28 PM »
Ok, i know, this is going to sound dumb, but who is the ISDA?  

I mean, Entertainment Weekly had a piece in their magazine about "The Best Video Games EVERY!" and, well, I just didn't take it very seriously.  That is like asking someone from Hawaii about frost bite.  So, does this ISDA really have any idea what they are doing, or are they just trying to be "cool" now that video games make more money than movies?  

I agree with EVERYONE when I see the amazing number of games Xbox has nominated.  Right, Xbox is going to have a lot of hits.  Sure, and my porsche is in the shop.  

I know Nintendo didn't have an amazing year, but actually it was very good.  I mean, no way it could ever live up to last years.  But Nintendo really blew their load with Mario-Zelda-Metroid in one show.  But hey, the new Mario Kart!  The new Star Fox being done by Namco!  Final Fantasy back on the big N!  They brought 3 huge franchises to the show again!  Nintendo has been saying for the past year that this year they would be pushing conectivity.  They did!  Pac-man really showed that.  So even though Nintendo got snubbed by these ISDA twats, I hope it doesn't send the message to the non-nintendo'ers that N is dead.  

BTW, I agree, where the hell is Twin Snakes?  Man, lets her some sweet slow lovin' for Silicon Knights!  

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TalkBack / Enter the Matrix Sells Like Hotcakes
« on: May 23, 2003, 06:56:44 AM »
SEE!  This is why Nintendo can't get any 3rd party support!!  We are all Nintendo SNOBS!  Not saying that is a bad thing, because I am very much so a Nintendo snob.  I own 17 GCN games. Of those 17, 13 are Nintendo games (1st and 2nd party).  With the others being from Sega Capcom and EA (sorry, i can't pass on a fifa game).  The reason is because, 3rd party games don't have nearly the quality or refinement of Nintendo games (excluding Kirby air ride).  Rarely is there a good one.  But game quality doesn't mean anything today.  I also own a PS2 soley to play Final Fantasy, and I feel even Square has lost a bit of their refinement.  Did anyone notice that Matrix is selling 2:1 over other games for PS2 and 4:1 over other games on M$'s Xbox?  PS2 has such a huge user base that 90% of those people are "casual" gamers and think, hmmm i like movie--i like game.  So that explains PS2's sales.  But hahahaha, yet another funny fact about XBOX.  XBOX is the George W Bush of the video game industry.  Nobody knows how he got there?  He has no experience in the field he is in!  Nobody knows how he is still around.  Nobody in their right mind could ever like him.  Yet he is still around, and some think he might actually be around for another term!  XBOX2 and  GWbush getting elected (for the first time, since he never won before) are two things that make my head itch.  I can't figure out how either of these  work, but getting back to XBOX.  I do not own an XBOX, and in fact i have given up following anything about it!  The only news xbox ever has is, "duh we made another move that will cost up Billions yet duh this is some how not the start of a monopoly."  But come now, 4:1?!?!  Wow, hahahaha.  I feel more sorry now for xbox owners than i ever have.  I mean not just Matrix, but look at splinter cell.  That was the best selling game (or one of them) for xbox last year?  Now we have it on our blessed cube, and I have no intentions on buying it.  I might rent it, but that is a giant might!  All in all, this is actually a bad thing (yes odd i know, give me one more second).  Here is a 3rd party game, that is selling like "hot-cakes" and GCN has NOTHING to do with it.  Nintendo can not increase sales of 3rd party titles with their current user base (all of us!)  because we do not want 3rd party games.  We want Mario, Zelda, Star Fox and any other character from the brilliant mind of Shiggy-san!  So, big woopty-doo, Matrix is selling well, so did N'Syncs last album.  

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TalkBack / Nintendo Press Confrence Recap
« on: May 14, 2003, 04:42:37 AM »
As always, SOUNDS like a great year for us current gamecube owners.  I hope the rest of the world will wake up and realize how many amazing games they are missing out on!  All the Nintendo news made me real happy, it really brought my spirits up (even more) about my wonderful cube.  The thing that is disturbing me is Sony's annoucement of a handheld!  I went over to IGN and they had an early spec sheet about it.  Now Nintendo says they aren't worried now, but I know they have to be lying.  I am sure Nintedo layed a deuce when they heard about this.  GBA, or any other Gameboy system is Nintendo's cash cow.  Poor Gamecube sales don't look as bad when they are making a killing by porting old games onto GBA, and making almost 100% profit (I love Super Mario 3, but porting a NES game from over 10 years ago and selling it for $30, Nintendo is an amazing company, they know how to do business).  But...they aren't the only ones who port games to GBA.  Capcom has gone Mega Man crazy with GBA, Konami too has taken advantage of it.  These are all companies that will be more than happy to put games on PSP (Playstation Portable).  So software won't be any problem for them.  And name recognition!  If Sony puts "Playstation" on their final product, i am going to fly over to Japan and slap those ho's in the face.  Sony obviously isn't a "true" or "good" video game company because all they do is whore the same name and same design as the first Playstation.  I hate saying "well the next generation of games will...." but the next one really will show the true colors of these companys.  PS3 will hopefully use a controller that is at least a little different from the SNES's.  And this new PSP will be interesting.  The early stats seem to be way way way too ambitios for a handheld.   It sounds more like PSP will cost $200 for them to just break even.  This can go two ways.  PSP is a mega hit because the masses of morons see "Playstation" and their grunts indicate they must have it and Sony eats up the last market Nintedo dominated.  Or, PSP is such a huge flop (game gear, nomad anyone?) that it hurts the image Sony has created and wastes a good chunk of money.  I just really hope Nintendo doesn't act too calm over this.  I don't want them to be scared of Sony, i want Nintendo to see those bastards sticking their noses in another forum of gaming they have no business being in, and kick their asses!  GBA-SP is awesome.  But I can't wait for GBA-SAK, GameBoy Advanced-Sony Ass Kicker!    

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TalkBack / Square-Enix's Nintendo E3 Lineup
« on: April 30, 2003, 05:07:15 PM »
Blade2t3-- I agree!  Final Fantasy has lost a lot since VIII.  I did like IX, it was very much "fantasy."  But, honestly, I just couldn't get into FFX.  But I am not saying FF on GCN will bring games with awesome gameplay.  We have Mr. Myamoto for those games.  But Final Fantasy will bring many new GCN owners!  Now that is the only thing Nintendo needs to worry about.  But Blade2t3 brings up a great point, FF isn't what it used to be.  But I am sure we will be able to enjoy 1-6 in all their glory on our GBA!

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TalkBack / Square-Enix's Nintendo E3 Lineup
« on: April 30, 2003, 11:45:30 AM »
Only two responses so far?? Come on people!  Square on Nintendo.  More importantly, Square on GAMECUBE!  This should be the biggest news for Gamecube this year, and the next, and the next.  I read these forums everyday!  And I hear the same thing everyday!  "Nintendo needs more mature games"  "Nintendo needs to have strong 3rd party support."  HELLO wake up, and welcome to the world of videogames.  You want mature games?  I do not know too many casual gamers that can complete a Final Fantasy game today.  Very deep story lines, usually debating religion and machines.  The only other place you can get that type of content is a modern western civ class in college.  Sounds mature to me!  Now you want strong 3rd party support.  They do not come any stronger than Square!  I know they aren't as big as EA or any of those "lets pop out as many low quality games as we can"  But Square has one thing most game makers don't have, legions of loyal fans!  Zelda is a very popular series, in a survey in Japan Zelda came in 3rd for most influential series.  What was number 1?  Final Fantasy, with over 60% of the votes!  (2nd was dragon warrior, which is now part of Square-Enix).  Yea!! Zelda got 3rd, that is good, but a very distant 3rd place.  Final Fantasy fans are strong in numbers and loyalty.  You bring Final Fantasy to Gamecube or any other future Nintendo home console, and you bring a system that is sure to dominate.  Lets face it.  If Final Fantasy were on GCN, what could PS2 say they have that is amazingly better than GCN?  Really nothing.  People then go to Nintendo's console, and so do game makers.  So...come on guys!  Lets hear some noise in the forum.  And to answer the concern of why Square hasn't announced any "old ports" to the GBA, give them some time.  Everyone loves money, and who doesn't love selling another million copies of a game released ten years ago?  

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TalkBack / Nintendo Announces Three Square Games
« on: April 28, 2003, 04:24:29 AM »
Does anyone here know what "Final Fantasy" brings to the table?  Gamecube will fly into second place way past Xbox once FF:CC is released (world wide sales).  Remember Sega Saturn?  Yeah, neither does anyone else.  It was beating out PSone in Japan (easily) until Square said FF was going to PSone.  BOOM!  PSone sales blow up, Saturn dies (with Sega soon to follow) and N64 has an uphill battle, and it hasn't even been released!  Yes I know FF:CC isn't part of the regular FF series, but people are still very excited about it.  IGN had a poll asking which FF game you are most looking forward to this coming year, and FF:CC was first and FFX-2 was a distant second.  Considering the current user base for potential FFX-2 buyers is eight times larger than that of FF:CC, that is an amazing statistic!  I think we all need to realize that yet again GCN Nintendo is getting a system seller, but this time it isn't from Nintendo.  This is what GCN and any other Nintendo system to come needs.  I am 100% certain that FF:CC will be the turning point everyone keeps saying Nintendo needs.  In fact if FF:CC doesn't push GCN significantly past Xbox in worldwide sales within its first few months of release, then I will forever shut up and never ever open my mouth in a gaming forum ever again.  But just you all watch, FF:CC will be that 3rd party gem.  FF:CC will not be as good as Zelda:WW.  It is impossible.  It will be very hard for a fantasy type game to beat out Zelda:WW.  But that isn't what GCN needs right now.  Hell, we have all the quality software a person can handle.  But Nintendo is a business and they need something to sell very well, and bring in new blood.  RPG gamers are little in number, but still very strong, and willing to buy a system just for one game, because what true Final Fantasy fan can pass up on a game in the franchise.  (Not me :-( I am a sad owner of a PS2, and own one game, FFX.  I hang my head in shame.)  PS2 has me in their "user base" because of one game.  FF:CC WILL increase GCN's userbase easily past Xbox.  

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TalkBack / Mario Kart on GameCube Details
« on: April 23, 2003, 06:03:54 AM »
Wow-ee-wow-wow-wow!  Ok, we can all admit, the mario kart series was getting kind of, well, stale.  If nintendo would have just released a graphically updated version of MarioKart64, sad to say i would have passed it up.  But yet again, Nintendo "changes" one of the strongest franchises, and I am sooo excited!  Wow, look at those screens!  Two person karts, in which one drives and the other throws the goodies!  What a simple idea that makes the game so NEW.  Of course the graphics do look awesome, but when we are talking Nintendo games, graphics are the last thing to worry about.  None of us can see the gameplay (most important part of any game) from the pictures, but I don't think that is something to worry about.  The thing we all need to start worrying about is, 7 other people to play with!!  So for all of those peole saying "nintendo blew all their games they had in the past 3 months"  uh ohhhhh, somebody's got yet another flood of games coming out!  It feels great to own a Gamecube.

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TalkBack / Nintendo Announces Game Development in Tokyo
« on: April 17, 2003, 06:25:22 AM »
Wait wait wait!  Nintendo is creating a seperate branch to handle "unique" games?  I think all Nintendo games are "unique."  What do you call Animal Crossing, Doshin the Giant, Pikmin?  I wonder if this means the current line up will try to steer more main-stream, and the "unique" games can be handled by others?  I am excited about this, it is just another reminder that Nintendo is concerned about me, the gamer.  Sony's craziest idea was to copy Zelda (Dark Cloud anyone?).  This comes out before E3, and we all know E3 always holds a few suprises, which makes me very excited about what Nintendo is holding back.  RPGlover brings up a good thought about Kid Icarus.  I thought I had heard there was a secret development of Kid Icarus underway.  That would make me cry, I feel 7 again.  I would love a Kid Icarus game.  Ok, I can't type anymore, i am getting too emotional.

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TalkBack / Namco and Sega Merger?
« on: April 17, 2003, 06:17:39 AM »
No matter how this situation folds out, it is bad for Sega.  I am not trying to bash Sega, not at all.  I love Sega (now that Nintendo won that battle).  I own every Sega console starting with the Master System.  Sega has done a lot for gaming, mostly they rivaled Nintendo which forced the Big N to make their games just that much better.  If any of you have played Shenmue you know that Sega is easily one of the top 5 game makers.  But, that has pretty much been where Sega has ended.  I do not understand their game plan.  They support Xbox, yet Xbox has a weaker user base in Japan than the Wonderswan!  Japan is where Sega will most likely do best in, being from Japan.  Also, Sega does make amazing sports titles, all of which are more realistic than EA's, but that is taking on a giant that will never be caught sleeping again.  Sony's 989 studios seemed to have EA in the corner with their first efforts on the PS1, but once EA got their act together, there was nothing anyone could do (Konami has the best soccer title ever, yet they won't release it in America  because Fifa seems to have that market sealed).  Sega has really only stayed afloat the past year/two years with ports to Gamecube and Gameboy Advance.  I think a merger with Sammy/Micro$oft/EA/Namco will be bad for Sega.  The most likely seems to be Namco, and I still beleive that this is going to be bad.  RaBicle said that it would create a dream game of "Tekken VS. Virtua Fighter"  Dream game?   I am sure this would be a nightmare for Namco/Sega.  The two best fighting games under one house.  Only one would prevail.  One would have to sacrifice itself.  Namco has taken forever to release Soul Calibur II.  I have heard about this game for years, but they waited to release it so it wouldn't compete with their own Tekken games.  They wanted Tekken to run its course, then release SCII.  With Virtua Fighter and Tekken being under one company, they would cut one, or release them so far apart, we would have to wait years before the next installment.  If they joined the games, they wouldn't be abel to keep the gameplay of both, one would have to sacrifice gameplay.  All you would have is a Tekken game with Virtua Fighter characters.  Namco would more than likely have the more power of the two companies, which means putting a lot of Sega games on the back burner.  Namco wouldn't want Sega's RPG's to compete with its own.  It really does create a lot of problems.  I see a Nintendo buyout of Sega to be a good thing.  I know Nintendo doesn't want to do that, but really the two are much alike.  They have the history of battling against one another, and their game lineup is a nice mix.  Sega has been very kind to us Cubers with releasing games to fill our voids.  We have no RPG's on our wonderful system, Sega (ports) a couple of better than descent RPG's.  GCN has recieved many great multi player games (Monkey ball 1/2, and Beach Spikers) and platformers (Sonic games).  If you take the Sega games out of the Nintendo library, you won't cry a river in pain, but you will notice gaps that could be filled.  Sega is an important asset to Nintendo (imagine saying that 10 years ago!)  So, if Sammy/Micro$oft/EA/Namco are the bidders, yeah i want Namco, but Nintendo really should try to dive in and at lease grab Sonic Team.

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TalkBack / CNN Article on the State of Nintendo
« on: April 17, 2003, 04:40:40 AM »
I know since I am at planet gamecube right now, I am just preaching to the choir but, MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!  I agree that Mario Sunshine was hard.  The levels without the water pack were hard, but awesome!  Man, it gave me a rush that video games hadn't given me in a long time.  Mario hard, is a good hard.  I do not like games that are hard because they are tedious.  But when I had trouble in Mario Sunshine, it made me want to play more, I couldn't stop until I could get past it.  Then, I wanted to keep playing even more until my body couldn't take it anymore!  So, yes I am sad to hear that Mario will be made easier.  But what I want to know is, why/how does that make it kiddy?  I keep hearing people crying about Nintendo being for kids.  Well, I don't hear the other game makers saying they will make their games easier!  So which is it?  Is Nintendo for kids?  Maybe that is why Nintendo doesn't have mass apeal.  The casual gamers are ashamed they can't get past a level in Mario.  I am sad that they will be making the games easier, but this being Nintendo, I am sure they will compensate and give us something else.  Maybe some voice acting in games, or extra levels?  I also would like to comment on what they said about online gaming.  GOOD!  I'M GLAD!  Online gaming is a joke right now.  It's called friends.  If you want to play the newest Fifa game, walk/drive over to your friends house.  Video game players have a stigma to them that they are "social losers" well what a better way to feed that stereotype by playing with your "friends" with them not even there.  The Sims online is a great example.  Here you have the best selling PC gamer ever, it goes online and crashes.  Not everyone has broadband hookups, and not everyone is willing to tie up their phone lines to play a game.  Online gaming works for some computer games, but right there lies the answer 'computer games.'  Nintendo isn't in the computer game business, they are in the console business.  Consoles are much different than PC's.  That is Xbox's main problem (amoung many others) is that it is a weak computer, or you can see it as a powerful console.  Consoles aren't about power, they are about using the console to it's strengths.  Online gaming, is not, and may not be for a long time a strength of consoles.  I think this article doesn't really say anything new about what Nintendo is going to do.  No they will not be number one in sales, but if they are going to remain in last place (in sales) yet release the masterpieces they have in the past 4 months alone.  Well all I have to say is, It feels great to be last!

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TalkBack / Sega Announces Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
« on: April 14, 2003, 02:29:15 PM »
An original title!?  Something new from Sonic Team!?  A Gamecube exclusive!?!?  OHHHHH YEAH!  "Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg"  I know this game is going to be a great addition to my GCN library of titles.  But, the average gamer will have no idea!  Gamecube has the largest number of "5 star" titles.  Yet the world has more PS2's and XBOX's!  PS2 has a nice collection of "so-so" titles, with a "5 star" here and there.  XBOX, well, if I here an XBOX fanboy say "Halo" one more time I am going to cry.  Lucky for them, they will have a second "5 star" title coming soon, "Halo 2."  I love that Sega is so supportive of GCN, but I just don't think this game is going to be the "system seller" everyone (not me) keeps saying GCN needs, let alone selll a decent number of the game itself.  Needless to say, I will be looking forward to this game release.

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TalkBack / This Weeks Famitsu Update
« on: April 12, 2003, 06:41:09 AM »
Did anyone notice that the PS2 version of SCII came in 5th, and the GCN came in 7th?  Wow, that is awesome.  Think about it, how much larger is the PS2 user base?  A LOT!   Yet the GCN version of the same game (But with an amazing exclusive character) game in two places behind!  THAT IS A GOOD THING!  These are the types of battles that Nintendo needs to pay attention to.  By just simply saying "Yes Namco, you can put Link in your fighting game for our system" made that game a huge hit!  I am interested on how well SCII would have sold without Link, I know I would not have any feelings to buy it.  I am not very interested in those types of games, but now that a character (one of the best ever) is in it, hell yeah i am buying it!  I know Nintendo has noticed this, and I can't wait to see what future things they come up with 3rd party developers.  Don't forget, Namco is the company that is making the next Star Fox game.  SCII and Star Fox will be pretty good sales for them.  Maybe we will get many more fun Namco games.   Xeno Saga: IIanyone????????  

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TalkBack / Atari Reveals Dragon Ball Z: The Legend of Goku 2
« on: April 12, 2003, 06:33:04 AM »
Has there ever been a better than decent DBZ game?  NO!  Why do we even care about this news!  I am more interested in the next Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen game than the next DBZ game!  Come on, this game is the type of crap that we should be wanting the videogame publishers to get away from.  Check out the Denkei charts and see how much DBZ: Budokai has sold, A CRAP LOAD!  I don't get it.  I guess there are people out there that want really bad games.  I just can't believe it has sold more/better than Wind Waker.  It brings a tear to my eyes (and Shiggy Miyamoto's too).

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TalkBack / Xbox Price Cuts Looming; Nintendo Unfazed
« on: April 11, 2003, 06:33:42 AM »
Ok, this is what is called creating a Monopoly.  Obviously Xbox does not have a monopoly right now, but this is the early stages of trying to create one.  This is interesting considering the article from yesterday saying Nintendo will lower the price is charges third parties to put their titles on GCN.  Yes that is just a matter of competition.  But the article also said Sony still had a better deal.  Well of course they do, it is Sony.  I am sure a huge number of people playing their GCN's are on Sony TV's, with Sony suround sound.  And are sitting at their Sony computer using their Microsoft Browser which is running on their Microsoft Windows (not me, i am at my Apple!)  So of course Sony and Micro$oft can slash prices left and right.  Has Micro$oft ever made money on the Xbox console?  Even at $300 I think they were burning money.  I read a report that said over $2billion in one year is how much Micro$oft is giving up with the Xbox.  But that is NOTHING to them!  But to Nintendo, yikes, they would have to rethink their position.  Everyone always talks about the "War Chest" Nintendo has, yeah, about a $6billion war chest.  That won't cut it.  So if Nintendo lowers their prices everytime Sony and Micro$oft does, then we all need to be thinking about which system we will buy, Playstation3 or Xbox2.

I am glad Nintendo doesn't seem scared by this move.  They shouldn't be.  They have a superior console with superior games.  You don't see Porsche shaking in their boots because Toyota comes out with a dinky sports car.  Porsche just keeps making the best damn sports cars there are, and lets Toyota go crazy with their Corrollas and Celicas.  If Nintendo can survive as a company and not be number one, hey thats fine with me.  I just hope they don't go crazy and think they have to always under price the competition.  They are better than that.  They aren't Sega!

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TalkBack / Lieberman Talks Videogame Violence... Again
« on: April 10, 2003, 04:08:03 PM »
He isn't trying to end videogames!  

Being planetgamecube, not many of us need to worry about the type's of games he is talking about.  Someone on this site put a link to an interview with Lieberman and he clearly says he doesn't want to ban video games.  He clearly wants to make sure that little kids (7 year olds!) can't just walk in to a store and spend the money they have saved up for a year on a game that getting life back is picking up a hooker and doing "things" in your car.  I agree with that!  He isn't saying they can't put that in the game, he is just saying CHILDREN shouldn't be able to purchase it.

I was in a video game store (nameless) once and these two boys (age 12 MAX!) went to the manager of the store and said "yeah how much will a gamecube and metroid prime cost" the manager looked at them and said "you boys should get an Xbox and Dead to Rights.  It is only a little more expensive and there is actually blood in that game, metroid is childish."  First of all, trying to get little kids to buy the more expensive system is slimey, but then to make a sales pitch with the only thing being LOTS OF BLOOD is sick!  I decided i should make a comment to the salesman and told him if the kid looks like he still beleives in santa, don't push the blood.  So he says "I am only selling them what they want."  First off, they didn't ask for that game, second off YOU CAN'T SELL THEM THAT GAME!  The ESRB is nice, it just needs to be enforced.

Just don't eveybody start screaming for Liebermans head!  He isn't trying to take our fun fun games!  He is just making sure kids aren't buying BMX XXX without their parents knowing about the game.  I am sure many parents don't know that actual breasts are in BMX XXX, and if they did, i am sure many wouldn't want their kids to have it.  But if they dont' mind, that is fine too, but as long as they are informed.  Liebs is just trying to INFORM!

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