Post by: Steel Diver on February 19, 2013, 09:28:24 AM
A remake of a three-year-old game? Fine, go bananas!
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/blog/33358
Being a Nintendo fan, I know the company likes to unearth classic games to rerelease in the form of Virtual Console ports or remakes. With Donkey Kong Country Returns (DKCR), Nintendo does not need to do any unearthing, because the game is still on store shelves!
Remaking DKCR is a silly idea in some aspects, but a good idea in others. While some may count this as a port, I call it a remake (call it whatever you like). But before you go ape **** (get it?) reading this, I think we can all agree that this game is not old. Released in 2010, it is still widely available for purchase. You can also play it on the Wii U. Considering these factors, I would say DKCR does not require a remake.
One feature of this new version that might be regarded as an improvement is the lack of motion controls. The original DKCR sported waggle controls that were awkward in many people’s opinions. Their absence may be used as a defense for the new game, but don't all great games have their flaws? If we go by this reasoning alone, shouldn’t every waggle-fest be given a second chance? OK, maybe not every waggle game matches the quality of DKCR, but is this one fix enough to get people to buy it?
Popular opinion of the 3D feature is also mixed, so using it as the main reason for the remake may not be a good idea. Some may argue that 3D was the biggest draw for Ocarina of Time 3D, but that game also came with a complete graphical overhaul, which is something that DKCR does not need. It also came out at a time when 3DS releases were sparse and the Zelda 25th anniversary celebration was in full swing. At this moment in time, I just don't think DKCR 3D has such a compelling set of reasons to be made.
I’m not saying the game will be bad, and I’m not even saying I won't buy it. The point I’m trying to make is that I can think of better ways Nintendo could allocate its resources, and that whatever this version costs is a waste.
Post by: UncleBob on February 19, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
Post by: lukas85 on February 19, 2013, 09:43:14 AM
Post by: Stogi on February 19, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
For instance, the New Play Control games may not have been a move to simply make more money from existing games, but also, maybe, to teach new comers to the company how to program for Wii. The same thing could be going on here. Maybe Nintendo is priming a new team to make more 3DS games.
As for taking out the waggle, why do you think they'll do that? The 3DS is outfitted with the same tech as the Wiimote.
Post by: azeke on February 19, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
I bet $1 that the 3DS version will outsell the Wii version. :DThat is actually a viable bet. To beat Wii version, 3ds game will have to sell 5 million+ copies.
Unnecessary or not -- i am buying it. I only played DKC games on portables anyway.
Post by: Bman87301 on February 19, 2013, 10:04:59 AM
Post by: Stogi on February 19, 2013, 10:10:58 AM
Post by: Fjurbanski on February 19, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
Unnecessary? Yeah, probably. A waste of time? Money? Not for me. Never played the Wii version, so I'll pick this up.
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 19, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, Okami (for Wii), Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition. What is unnecessary to one person is a worthwhile addition to a library for another.
As for your point about there being better ways for Nintendo to spend their resources, I would say that's difficult to determine without knowing how much resources were actually expended to port this game. If I had to guess though, I'd say not very much. That's not to say that porting a game from Wii to 3DS is trivial, but I can't imagine Nintendo would have had one of their top tier teams working on this and I also can't see this being a particularly expensive venture.
All that said, I still have no intention of picking this up. I loved it on Wii and I don't think I would enjoy it as much on the 3DS screen.
Post by: geo on February 19, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
As for taking out the waggle, why do you think they'll do that? The 3DS is outfitted with the same tech as the Wiimote.
Because the waggle would disrupt the 3D for people who like to play the games in 3D. Maybe this time it'll be optional instead of mandatory.
Post by: ejamer on February 19, 2013, 12:17:19 PM
This announcement doesn't really excite me, but I can see it being a reasonable release from Nintendo's point of view. Now get me a portable version of Xenoblade, stat!
Post by: Tennindo on February 19, 2013, 01:53:52 PM
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 19, 2013, 02:01:30 PM
New Controls will make this the better version of an already amazing game
Possibly. I think I would still recommend that people play it on a TV though. That game looks fantastic.
The button layout of the 3DS will also allow you to play DKCR the way it should have been played, with the 'Y' button as run and the 'B' button as jump. Those controls worked so well on the SNES, and would have worked perfectly on Wii had the Classic Controller been employed.
Post by: jglonek on February 19, 2013, 02:11:05 PM
Post by: Olympion on February 19, 2013, 03:49:59 PM
Post by: Adrock on February 19, 2013, 05:15:02 PM
Post by: Mop it up on February 19, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
Do we even know who worked on this port? No one can really call it a waste of resources unless we know that a team at Retro worked on it.
Post by: Steel Diver on February 19, 2013, 06:28:45 PM
It is indeed a pretty unnecessary remake, I had no problems with the motion controls and while 3D is cool, it hardly justifies paying for the same game twice. It annoys me how Majora's Mask, the one game that really needs and deserves a 3DS remake still hasn't gotten one, despite OoT3D coming out more than 18 months ago and even The Wind Waker getting remade.
Thanks for all the comments everyone, Olympion sums up my opinion quite well. To be honest I may play this 3DS port/remake since I barely played any of the original, but I do still think porting Wii games should not be a priority.
Post by: Luigi Dude on February 19, 2013, 07:41:14 PM
Thanks for all the comments everyone, Olympion sums up my opinion quite well. To be honest I may play this 3DS port/remake since I barely played any of the original, but I do still think porting Wii games should not be a priority.
Ports don't take priority though because they're made by small teams in shorter periods of time. If Retro can't handle making a game for the Wii U because a small part of them is doing a cheap and easy handheld port, then there's some serious issues going on there that this game not existing wouldn't solve.
Post by: EasyCure on February 19, 2013, 07:59:45 PM
I never actually purchased DKRC, probably because my Wii has been gathering dust. SO, I will be buying it on the 3DS to play! I'm glad they are releasing it there
But if you picked it up the first time around, your Wii wouldn't have been gathering dust...
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 19, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
but I do still think porting Wii games should not be a priority.
Well, then you'll be relieved to hear that it hasn't been, and will continue not to be, a priority. One release does not a trend make.
Post by: Oblivion on February 19, 2013, 08:41:26 PM
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Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 20, 2013, 02:01:43 AM
If, however, I eventually hear that Retro is designing tracks for Mario Kart U then I'm going to have to start writing threatening letters to Nintendo.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 20, 2013, 03:20:33 AM
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Post by: Furious Francis on February 20, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
DKC on the 3DS makes sense for 3 reasons
1. More people get to play it on a sizzling hot console. The 3DS is putting up some huge numbers 30 million and counting. It makes sense for Nintendo to bring over one of the best Wii games to the 3DS.
2. The controls will be greatly improved. No waggle is good for 2-D platformers. Trying to beat the endgame challenges with motion controls is annoying.
3. Little time, more money. This helps Nintendo invest little to potentially make a lot. Retro will get royalties from this game, which helps them fund future Wii U games.
Post by: Kytim89 on February 20, 2013, 05:01:19 PM
Post by: EasyCure on February 20, 2013, 09:12:38 PM
Would Xenoblade be a good fit on the 3DS?
That might be easier to play but this game is so huge I'd prefer it on my big screen to be honest
as for waggles in platformers.. I'm really starting to think everyone here sucks at platformers or I'm just super excellent at them, because I've never once had a trouble with motion controls in either NSMBW (or WU) and DKCR. I played through some of the speed challenges too, both games, no problem.
In fact in any motion based Wii game, the only times I accidentally waggle when, for example, scratching my nose, is when.. well I was already in a safe zone and not in the middle of a game. So no, I've never triggered motion controls and had it ruin a game experience.
Post by: Leo13 on February 22, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
If they were doing the Metroid Prime Trilogy for the 3DS I'd absolutely buy it without hesitation. The only Metroid game I've played is Other M and I really liked it and everyone tells me that the Prime games are better so I wish that would have been the choice.
Post by: Oblivion on February 22, 2013, 12:55:46 PM
Post by: Adrock on February 22, 2013, 12:59:04 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2013, 01:06:56 PM
Would Xenoblade be a good fit on the 3DS?
It uses conventional controls (I play it exclusively with my CC Pro; don't even know what the default controls are) so in theory it could work. Due to the obscurity of that game I'm actually fine with it gaining a bigger audience on the 3DS. I'm not very keen on ports of games that are popular and readily available as the intention seems to be to double dip. But with obscure games that are hard to find, a re-release is like a nice service to allow people that missed it the first time to pick it up (if you want DKCR you can buy it today and play it on your Wii U). But like EasyCure I like playing Xenoblade on the big screen. I would hate if it become more popular on the 3DS and Nintendo decided to move the series to handhelds like what happened to Valkyria Chronicles. If they keep it on the consoles then there is no risk of that.
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 22, 2013, 01:36:05 PM
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Post by: pokepal148 on February 24, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
Xenoblade on 3DS would be fantastic for the length and amount of things you can do in that game, especially with how pick up and play friendly it is. But I think it the scope and magnitude of the environments would lose something in transition to the smaller screen.but at least i could play it legally and without dealing with homebrew or paying 599 us dollars on amazon
Post by: EasyCure on February 24, 2013, 07:34:39 PM
Xenoblade on 3DS would be fantastic for the length and amount of things you can do in that game, especially with how pick up and play friendly it is. But I think it the scope and magnitude of the environments would lose something in transition to the smaller screen.
I agree completely. Save anytime, anywhere is awesome for a game like this but those environments are too far reaching to really work on a portable screen.
Post by: Oblivion on March 05, 2013, 02:24:35 AM
