I've never found the Star Wars franchise to be particularly enamoring, but this has to have people worried. Disney just keeps getting bigger and bigger. They are steadily swallowing all creative outlets in the film industry, while stifling what remains through Machiavellian copyright laws.
I agree with you there. WhatDisneyOur government did with copyright laws was the most shameful thing they've ever done. Mickey Mouse should be in the public domain by now.
I been reading on other sites, the bigger story is Disney now owns ILM.
I been reading on other sites, the bigger story is Disney now owns ILM.
I was wondering if ILM is actually a part of LucasFilms or if it's something independent... because that is the big news to me.
The same year Disney makes John Carter, they buy the studio that makes Star Wars.
Total faith.
Before anybody brings up Marvel, the work to unify their properties into a universe was started long before Disney bought them
I have never watched any of the Star Wars - it's still a franchise that reached the peak of popularity about 40 years before technology allowed it to actually flourish on screen. Exactly how F-Zero X looks incredibly dated when you think about how it could look on Wii U.
The same year Disney makes John Carter, they buy the studio that makes Star Wars.
Total faith.
Before anybody brings up Marvel, the work to unify their properties into a universe was started long before Disney bought them
I have never watched any of the Star Wars - it's still a franchise that reached the peak of popularity about 40 years before technology allowed it to actually flourish on screen. Exactly how F-Zero X looks incredibly dated when you think about how it could look on Wii U.
If you have never seen Star Wars, then you can't make those kind of assumptions, they basically invented all the technology everyone else is using today to make sure those films looked damn good. What's ironic is Lucas was the guy who invented Pixar.
So make the movies new stories that fit in or steal from the EU material. I always thought Zahn's trilogy would make a great film series.
I have never watched any of the Star Wars - it's still a franchise that reached the peak of popularity about 40 years before technology allowed it to actually flourish on screen.
That's great and all, but who's going to play Luke, Leia, Han etc.? Certainly not the original actors, and recasting new actors in those roles would be equally insane IMO.Tron: Legacy had a CG young Jeff Bridges. Like I said above, I'd rather see a new movie set in a completely different era as Lucas' films. If they insist on picking up after Return of the Jedi with Luke, Leia, and Han, I'd imagine CG is the way they'd go with it. Not saying I advocate it, but that's the likeliest scenario rather than recasting.
I have never watched any of the Star Wars - it's still a franchise that reached the peak of popularity about 40 years before technology allowed it to actually flourish on screen.
This is nonsense.
I have never watched any of the Star WarsSorry fella, right there invalidates any observations you have on the films. Let's chat again when you have had a chance to view them.
The main reason is that people are whiny brats that can't stand change...
That's not to say I agree with every single change made, but some of what folks complain about is plum ridiculous. Oh noes, the Ewoks are blinking!!!
I don't disagree - and I still think to this day that the use of puppetry and props combined with appropriate use of CGI made the effects of Terminator 2 something that hasn't really been topped to this day.
Actually talk about DS9 on NFR. I still say for my money Voyager is just better looking from start to finish. Though DS9 has some really nice set pieces with the Station. I strongly think a good portion of that in the first half is because of the Camera's used weren't that good if for that time.I don't disagree - and I still think to this day that the use of puppetry and props combined with appropriate use of CGI made the effects of Terminator 2 something that hasn't really been topped to this day.
This best serves my point. T2 couldn't really have been done 20 years earlier. Apparently, John Carter took 100 years to reach the screen because of the perceived expense in the Barsoom novels and the universe it creates.
DS9 went off air 13 years ago. I'm watching it through again for the fourth time and still think the latter 16:9 years look fantastic. And a lot of it is a blend of models and CGI. If it was made in 2012 all i would change is cameras for better quality. Little else. Some films i'm perfectly OK with in their "aged" state, Star Wars is not one of them. Each time i've tried to watch i tend to get distracted by something on screen that jars me out of it. Something about a big budget script that didn't - simply owing to the time - didn't have the resources to follow through to the screen.
I realise what i'm asking for isn't exactly reasonable or even possible (we aint getting a young Harrison Ford again!). But that's all i would want.
I don't disagree - and I still think to this day that the use of puppetry and props combined with appropriate use of CGI made the effects of Terminator 2 something that hasn't really been topped to this day.
This best serves my point. T2 couldn't really have been done 20 years earlier. Apparently, John Carter took 100 years to reach the screen because of the perceived expense in the Barsoom novels and the universe it creates.
DS9 went off air 13 years ago. I'm watching it through again for the fourth time and still think the latter 16:9 years look fantastic. And a lot of it is a blend of models and CGI. If it was made in 2012 all i would change is cameras for better quality. Little else. Some films i'm perfectly OK with in their "aged" state, Star Wars is not one of them. Each time i've tried to watch i tend to get distracted by something on screen that jars me out of it. Something about a big budget script that didn't - simply owing to the time - didn't have the resources to follow through to the screen.
I realise what i'm asking for isn't exactly reasonable or even possible (we aint getting a young Harrison Ford again!). But that's all i would want.
The whole "Han shot first" thing is a legitimate gripe, because it changes his character and lessens the transformation he went through,
Just cast new actors. Other movies do this.
just don't have those characters in the movie, which would make them a lot less appealing to most people.
That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies.and obi-wan
That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies.and obi-wan
I think Han was justified, but it still changes his character to have fired in DIRECT REACTION to a shot from Greedo, rather than shooting preemptively. Han shooting first shows a higher level of resolve and coldbloodedness, even though it is justified.
I do count them. Cameos? OK, sort of. Minor? I definitely think not.That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies.and obi-wan
Sure, if you count very minor cameos in Empire and RotJ.
That makes a little more sense than it goes from being a bad guy to good guy in an single instant. Still many people faced with that situation would still not take the shot. The gun was drawn still means he had to think fast, kill or be killed. At least that was how I saw it, even as a kid when I didn't know any better.
had his threat right in Han's face, and was unaware of the threat directed at him
No, it doesn't give you the right.
Why George refused to do the same with Star Wars is beyond me.George Lucas doesn't want them to exist and he's spent the last 15 or so years trying to purge them from people's memory. Ironically, the more he tries to do that, the more people hold onto the memory of those films.
And pussy law? I would hope Catina does not have one of those savage "shoot people I think are threatening me" laws that let you kill someone for looking at you wrong by claiming you thought they were gonna attack you.
Also, a side note - Why has Star Wars catered to children all of the sudden? Money is a good answer, but seriously. My favorite movie (granted I've only see two and the Clone Wars series) is Empire Strike Backs. There is a **** ton of killing and force choking and hand chopping in that movie. If it were made today, I bet you it would be brutal.
I don't care what they do with the series, but I wouldn't mind seeing some violence and actual cold-blooded chess play for the galaxy.
That is why my favorite space opera is Legend of the Galactic Heroes after all, and that didn't even have Jedis.
More importanly is how the Original Star Wars hooked kids into lucrative long term investments.Also, a side note - Why has Star Wars catered to children all of the sudden? Money is a good answer, but seriously. My favorite movie (granted I've only see two and the Clone Wars series) is Empire Strike Backs. There is a **** ton of killing and force choking and hand chopping in that movie. If it were made today, I bet you it would be brutal.
I don't care what they do with the series, but I wouldn't mind seeing some violence and actual cold-blooded chess play for the galaxy.
That is why my favorite space opera is Legend of the Galactic Heroes after all, and that didn't even have Jedis.
I think the template to look at is the original STAR WARS. It doesn't cater to kids, at least not exclusively, but it doesn't exclude them either. That movie is for everyone and it's great. Give me that for Episode VII and I'll be thrilled.
lol i'm waiting for Kevin Smith to announces his unretirement
Kevin Smith has sucked for at least fifteen years. He won't be allowed anywhere near this.
Yeah, I meant everything since DOGMA. CLERKS 2 is actually not awful, I forgot about that one. Either way, not even Smith's good movies suggest he could or should be involved with a Star Wars movie.
Stock in the Pawtucket-based toymaker (HAS:Nasdaq) spiked 6.8 percent to $38.66 at the opening bell amid speculation that Disney (DIS:NYSE) was preparing a multi-billion dollar bid for Hasbro.
Hasbro declined comment, citing its policy of not talking about rumor or speculation. CNBC analyst David Faber reported that Hasbro's advisors told him there's "absolutely nothing going on that they are aware of at all, in any way, shape or form" involving Hasbro or Disney.
Wall Street analysts said a Disney acquisition didn't make much sense, just after Disney agreed to buy Lucasfilm Ltd. for $4.05 billion. And for any deal to happen, Hasbro would have to dissolve agreements with Disney's competitors.
Disney doesn't need to buy Hasbro, just putting new Star Wars films on screen pretty much secures their future with all the toys to come.
I meant it as Hasbro does not need Disney to save them, once the Star Wars movies hit their toy line will be secure. As far as Disney goes, they won't buy Hasbro they have no need to, Marvel and Lucas are entertainment companies just like they are, Hasbro is a toy company what Disney would be interested in if anything would be their entertainment properties Disney does not now nor have they ever been in the toy business, they happily license their stuff out for a reason.Brah Acquisition's aren't based on if a company needs saving? they just usually wait to get a better deal. Like I said Disney would be buying the IP but controlling the manufacturing of toys would be icing on the cake. It would akin to how Samsung or apple have gotten so big in the tech field.
As far as the Power Rangers brand goes, I don't know what happened there but I don't remember it ever being totally controlled by Disney it was always Saban and Bandai I thought. Disney was just one of many outlets that aired their stuff I doubt they were directly involved in the production for any significant length of time, if ever.
Yeah, I meant everything since DOGMA. CLERKS 2 is actually not awful, I forgot about that one. Either way, not even Smith's good movies suggest he could or should be involved with a Star Wars movie.
You are missing the point of his movies then, his movies are made for nerds, plain and simple. he tackles relationships and stuff but mostly he just makes movies about nerds trying to look like normal people. He deep down is a huge Star Wars fan and has made some decent action movies so I think he could handle Star Wars and take it seriously.
Not that he would be involved chances are Disney wouldn't even approach him.
Aaaaaand JJ Abrams is directing.
http://badassdigest.com/2013/01/24/jj-abrams-to-direct-star-wars-vii/ (http://badassdigest.com/2013/01/24/jj-abrams-to-direct-star-wars-vii/)
I think this is a fine choice. Abrams' STAR TREK '09 is very enjoyable despite having a terrible script, and a lot of that is due to JJ.
Also, can we, the internet, stop making lens flare jokes? One, has no one ever seen CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND or DIE HARD? JJ didn't invent them, nor was he the first to have a lot of them. Two, they stopped being funny four years ago.
Aaaaaand JJ Abrams is directing.
http://badassdigest.com/2013/01/24/jj-abrams-to-direct-star-wars-vii/ (http://badassdigest.com/2013/01/24/jj-abrams-to-direct-star-wars-vii/)
I think this is a fine choice. Abrams' STAR TREK '09 is very enjoyable despite having a terrible script, and a lot of that is due to JJ.
It was due to the writers strike - meaning that when it was handed in that's what they had to make.
Also, can we, the internet, stop making lens flare jokes? One, has no one ever seen CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND or DIE HARD? JJ didn't invent them, nor was he the first to have a lot of them. Two, they stopped being funny four years ago.
Michael Bay didn't invent explosions, and wasn't the first to overuse them, but I think it's perfectly fine to make fun of him for them. And I thought saying that Tatooine's two suns meant double the lens flare was pretty funny.
However, I think it's mentioned that he [yoda] outlived the rest of his species whose extinction could make for another fascinating story.Well there was Yaddle (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yaddle) during Ep. 1.
However, I think it's mentioned that he [yoda] outlived the rest of his species whose extinction could make for another fascinating story.Well there was Yaddle (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yaddle) during Ep. 1.
Yaddle is canon.
In an ironic twist, Yoda is from earth.
Not a big star wars fan, but that last season of the Clone Wars was amazing. Yoda's story in particular was crazy. Seriously, I couldn't stop watching it for a second. It's on Netflix BTW if you haven't seen it.
can you post or link the "continuity" list?
I may play catch up on the seasons I haven't seen yet.
Going forward, Lucasfilm has begun mapping out the narrative future of Star Wars storytelling that will appear on film and television and in other media so that all projects will benefit from real-time collaboration and alignment. The future Star Wars novels from Disney Publishing Worldwide and Del Rey Books will now be part of the official Star Wars canon as reflected on upcoming TV and movie screens.
Getting cut in half by Obi-Wan Kenobi and being rejected by his former Sith master Darth Sidious isn't going to defeat Darth Maul. In fact, it only makes him mad enough to take on the galaxy—with an army of Mandalorians!Interestingly enough its the only Dark Horse comic or previous written expanded universe book that was cannon. The four part series was supposed to be apart of clone wars season six and finish up the darth maul plot points left hanging in season five.
In our second upcoming novel created in collaboration with the Lucasfilm Story Group, bestselling Star Wars veteran James Luceno gives Tarkin the Darth Plagueis treatment, bringing a legendary character from A New Hope to full, fascinating life.
A thrilling new adventure set between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, and—for the first time ever—written entirely from Luke Skywalker's first-person point of view.
When the Emperor and his notorious apprentice, Darth Vader, find themselves stranded in the middle of insurgent action on an inhospitable planet, they must rely solely on each other, the Force, and their awesome martial skills to prevail.
Yes, it is dead. I just hope they still use the material in their future projects. This is a nice chance to fix some problems and improve on others. Like I said, I just hope they include the major book characters in some fashion.
How many lightsaber fights will there be? "There are pivotal lightsaber fights that are meaningful to the characters," Filoni said. "Kanan doesn't want to be out in the open. The Jedi that are alive don't want to be out in the open. But the force hasn't gone away - kids are still being born that can use the force. So part of our story is explaining that side of things, that doesn't have anything to do with Luke. The lightsaber fights will be saved for the pivotal moments, though."
Collins asked the panel what it means to be a Rebel in this timeframe.
Kinberg said, "It's the very beginning - this is the origin story of the Rebel Alliance. These are people who are not part of an alliance. These are just four people, then five and a mech who are trying to claw back a little bit of territory from the Empire. If you told a story of the American Revolution and it was just five guys in a barn saying they were taking land from the British, that's what this is.
Q: How much will we see of James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan in this new series?
Kinberg: "I don't know if we're allowed to say about these original characters, but more than you see in the trailer!"
After handing the Empire a massive defeat, the ragtag Rebel Alliance is looking to press their advantage, so they plan a sneak attack in order to not let the moment slip away, according to Aaron.
The first issue opens with the heroes staging a daring raid on an Imperial locale "that of course goes exactly as planned as their plans always do," Aaron quips.
He considers Star Wars a team book of sorts but initially Luke is the engine that powers the narrative.
He's riding a high after being the one in the X-Wing Fighter who took down the Death Star. Still, he's a young guy who's fresh off the Tatooine farm and been thrust in the midst of this a cosmic war. Luke is seeking more info about his father Anakin, but doesn't know yet that he's really the baddest guy around.
"He's got a lot of questions but he can't look at the way things are and know that at some point it's going to come down to him having to face Darth Vader," Aaron explains. "He looks at that and says, 'That's the man who killed my father. He killed Obi-Wan. I've got to be able to stop him,' but he knows he's not ready for that.
"Yeah, he blew up the Death Star but if he doesn't figure something out, he's going to get himself and all his friends killed.
There's also the irony, Aaron adds, that Luke's in hot pursuit to learn more about his father while also running from Darth Vader, who's trying to figure who this kid is that took down their mighty space station. "You've got them chasing after each other without realizing they're chasing each other."
Gillen finds the political situation in Star Wars "fundamentally interesting." The Death Star was the Emperor's plan for 20 years and he didn't dissolve the old Galactic Republic until the beginning of Star Wars. "The Republic is in a shell form," the writer says, "and it's only with the threat of the Death Star they feel the will to go full fascist."
With the Death Star gone, the Empire scrambles for what to do next, and Darth Vader is somewhat to blame after a gambit to let the Rebels escape with the Death star plans failed miserably.
There's also a weirdness factor to that whole incident for him, too.
"Why the hell did Obi-Wan Kenobi show up after all these years? And the weird nagging feeling around that fighter pilot, the one who was mysteriously strong in the Force?" Gillen says. "By the time we get to Empire, Vader knows Luke is his son and we never get to see Vader's 'I am your father' beat, the moment when he realizes that his last 20 years have been built on some kind of lie."
One way Vader is trying to reclaim his previous status is by building his own power structure within the Empire, like his own KGB, and bringing in bounty hunters — the scene in Empire Strikes Back where Vader rounds up Boba Fett, Bossk, Dengar, IG-88 and others to go looking for Han Solo was key for Gillen in that respect.
"He really is a micromanager," the writer says of Vader. "It's like, 'Darth, you have bigger things to do than briefing bounty hunters.' And he knows them. He says, 'No disintegrations,' pointed explicitly at a certain member. There is past experience or at least reputation.
"In some ways what I'm doing is a backstory behind that. Darth needs to get stuff done that he can't do explicitly within the Empire. While he's still obeying the Emperor's orders, he's also doing his own thing, in which he needs his own assets."
To do all that, Vader builds his own droids — since pre-teen Anakin Skywalker was really good at that in the movie prequels — plus wrangles bounty hunters as well as smugglers and other members of the underworld.
Not all of them will roll out the welcome wagon, he adds. "Some of them are very reluctant to be seen because they're terrified this is a trick. Some of them are angry at Leia because they hold the House of Organa responsible for the destruction of Alderaan."(http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/07/Star_Wars_Leia_Dodson_cov.jpg)
Adding to the obstacles: Before her run-in with the Empire, Leia always held some sway and authority wherever she would go in the galaxy, yet now she's working from a position of abject poverty.
"She's working from quite the disadvantage but she's a very determined, strong young woman," Waid says.
Although she's trying to travel on the downlow, the Empire begins to realize what Leia's up to.
"They take a great interest in where the process is and what they might be able to extract from her and what they might be able to extract from the other Alderaanians she's gathering," says Waid, adding that the series will establish a new arch nemesis for Leia on the Imperial side.
George Lucas did make up his mind everything but the films and clone wars was non cannon. Disney wiped everything but that out and now everything is cannon.
The first seven minutes of Star Wars Rebels
George Lucas did make up his mind everything but the films and clone wars was non cannon. Disney wiped everything but that out and now everything is cannon.
The first seven minutes of Star Wars Rebels
Obviously I was refering to his constantly changing the movies that are supposed to be canon but can't be taken seriously if he keeps changing them hence my comment how he can't make up his mind what is cannon.
Who cares? None of your examples matter to the story and are minor details.
The possibility of editing the films to have Boba Fett escape would be pointless. No body, no death. That's the rules.
And if they change the movies, then they change the cannon. Big whoop.
Han shooting Greedo was always self-defense. This is a bounty hunter trying to capture him and take him back to an angry, violent mob boss. Calling it cold blood is ridiculous. He didn't notice Greedo in the bar and go over and kill him for no reason, he killed him to escape.This is true. The order of the shooting changes him from being active to reactive. Han shooting first shows he knew what was coming and he did what he needed to do to look out for number 1. It shows a person who is actively changing events compared to a person who passively lets events happen to him. This is reenforced by his statements on not believing in the Force during the trip to Alderran.
The Jabba scene was extremely gratuitous and poorly done. Jabba didn't need to be shown, that was what Greedo was for. Why would a big Mafia boss go out of his way to see some two bit smuggler when he has minions.
The prequels were just awfully bland, lazy, emotionless, sub PG nonsensical mess that looked bad even back when they were released that made a mockery of the originals. Back then I was a dumb teenager, but even then I noticed they were seriously off movies. This series of "Reviews (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/)" pretty much covers why they were terrible.
The set piece battles were nonsensical. You got all this space technology, but you fight like it's WW1/ACW but both sides just throw bodies into a grinder in a line with orders that consists of "Kill the other guys". There weren't anyone to root for. Are you going to care about faceless clones or equally faceless robots.
The OT battles made sense. Both sides had different attitudes and restrictions to consider. Changes to the status quo meant a change in tactics. There were people in the battle you cared about or could relate to even temporarily. They didn't fight because they were told to, they fought because they believed in something.
The story of Palpatine's rise could of being pretty good. It is a far better angle that might have help cut out a lot of the terribleness. But the odds are that regardless of the story being told, it would have been botched due to the underlying environment in which they would have been made in.
There was that game where you played as the team leader of a squad of clones that was pretty alright. It was fun and was fairly unique at the time. It hasn't aged well technologically, but being a product of it's time it had quite a few redeeming qualities.
I don't know that I'd say Chewbacca isn't silly, but I'd certainly argue he's significantly less silly. Jar Jar's just there to be the comic relief, while I'd say there's more depth to Chewbacca's character.
Chewie is fucking awesome all around. The OT version of Jar Jar is C3PO.Yes, and C3PO is the worst character throughout the entire series. Prequels, Cartoons, and Original Trilogy.
Hey man, passive aggressively calling someone an idiot doesn't mean you didn't call them an idiot and not be mean about it. But I am not the type to report people.
The idea that any large organization doesn't have a group of enforcers or security experts to enforce basic things like taxation or to police civil unrest or piracy is absurd. Your telling me in thousands of worlds over countless number of sentient beings, over a thousand years there weren't ever any Hitler wannabes or warlords in their own fiefdoms that had more power than the Jedi could handle? **** me, even a Badminton club has members temporaliy take on a tax man role to enforce the fees needed to run the club.
The peaceful planet of Naboo has a trained police force while lacking heavy ground weapons, had some pretty good starfighters and pilots trained to use them. These police forces knew how to do things like take cover, lay ambushes, VIP protection, assaults and other small unit tactics. The Queen has blasters in the throne ready to use and wasn't shy about it. These were people who knew what conflict is and how to fight. Repeat this over the entire Republic and you have a fighting force to call on. It would be pretty damn ram shackled, but it would have made sense for the Republic like the UN make a Call to Arms to fight when needed.
That Clone War could have been awesome. Ships and fighters from hundreds of worlds fighting a desperate struggle against seemingly endless Stromtroopers with superior fire power using terror tactics like glassing planets. The Republic fighters would fight an organized open battle only on their terms. Each Species would bring different weapons, ideas and skills to the fight. The Republic would be defeated of course in time and become a puppet government, but not before striking a devastating blow that stops the clones in a phyric victory that forces them underground to form the Rebellion.
Or I could have just said that you telling me that the idea of people having literally forgotten how to fight despite being able to build and develop fleets of war machines is beyond absurd.
Hey man, passive aggressively calling someone an idiot doesn't mean you didn't call them an idiot and not be mean about it. But I am not the type to report people.
The idea that any large organization doesn't have a group of enforcers or security experts to enforce basic things like taxation or to police civil unrest or piracy is absurd. Your telling me in thousands of worlds over countless number of sentient beings, over a thousand years there weren't ever any Hitler wannabes or warlords in their own fiefdoms that had more power than the Jedi could handle? **** me, even a Badminton club has members temporaliy take on a tax man role to enforce the fees needed to run the club.
The Jedi filled that role watch the movies again.
The peaceful planet of Naboo has a trained police force while lacking heavy ground weapons, had some pretty good starfighters and pilots trained to use them. These police forces knew how to do things like take cover, lay ambushes, VIP protection, assaults and other small unit tactics. The Queen has blasters in the throne ready to use and wasn't shy about it. These were people who knew what conflict is and how to fight. Repeat this over the entire Republic and you have a fighting force to call on. It would be pretty damn ram shackled, but it would have made sense for the Republic like the UN make a Call to Arms to fight when needed.
They addressed that in the movie, there was a blockade on the planet and the Jedi were sent there to force a settlement and the Jedi were ambushed.
That Clone War could have been awesome. Ships and fighters from hundreds of worlds fighting a desperate struggle against seemingly endless Stromtroopers with superior fire power using terror tactics like glassing planets. The Republic fighters would fight an organized open battle only on their terms. Each Species would bring different weapons, ideas and skills to the fight. The Republic would be defeated of course in time and become a puppet government, but not before striking a devastating blow that stops the clones in a phyric victory that forces them underground to form the Rebellion.
Again the later clone wars battles were nothing like the battle of Naboo which was a STAGED fight to draw the droid army away from the city it was a show of force and then they retreated that was the strategy it was not the strategy the war effort would take TEN YEARS later when the actual war began.
Or I could have just said that you telling me that the idea of people having literally forgotten how to fight despite being able to build and develop fleets of war machines is beyond absurd.
Your style of writing clearly showed you weren't calm compared to your normal style.
I wasn't talking about the battle of Naboo. I was using the planet Naboo being an example of a peaceful planet that has a collection of people capable of engaging in serious combat with the will to fight despite the lack of heavy equipment and weapons. Less peaceful or different worlds would have even better fighters like lets say the Mandolorians. That's just one planet full of people who could fight and what do you know! One was selected to be the basis of a clone army! What about Wookies? Where are the Bothians? Even Jawas have useful skills to bring to a war effort.
The ground Battle of Naboo was farce that killed many when anyone with two brain cells could have come up with better plan for either side.
The battle on Geonosis was a pointless meat grinder and you know it. At that point they had already achieved one of their primary objectives of rescuing the heroes. Everything after that to destroy the droid factory was a needless slaughter of meat when you have effective air superiority and capital ships with big guns to bring to bear to force a surrender. Yoda might not know how to fight a war, but I am sure the trained clones knew with their programming and specialist units. Why isn't Yoda distressed by the thousands of people including Jedi getting killed and maimed.
Every battle was a directionless clusterfuck of pointless slaughter. The battle over Corusant had ships duking it out at point blank range in a mess like a bunch of triremes. In ROTJ there was a very good reason for this. But why do that here?
The Jedi aren't all powerful and their actions in the movies present them as bunch of aloof, incompetent, blind and apathetic bunch that aren't deserving of a good reputation let alone implementers of policy. What about pirates? You need a navy for that. People like that aren't going to "Negotiate" a settlement. Jedi shows up they are either going to run away or shoot back. Jedi aren't really into the whole art of being starfighter pilots. Lets say that single Jedi somehow arrests them, what are you going to do with them now? Take them to Jedi court? Judgement on the spot Dreed style? Local prison?
Then multiply those pirates into gangs, the **** are Jedi going to do now? Crime lords turn warlords spreading out from the fringe worlds taking a planet here and there with the will and ability to go into at least a limited war. Jedi don't fight wars right, so what are they going to do? Assassinate the leader? ok, now you have a political vacuum with factions going at each other with billions of people involved. Are the Jedi going to keep killing people until they give up?
Even the great Empire with level of terror it was capable of couldn't fully suppress dissent and unrest without Star Destroyers and boots on the ground. You're telling me that a Jedi is as powerful and as threatening as cruiser full of troops or any Army.
Simply put the world that the prequels exists in was utter nonsense and comprised of terrible fan fiction. In every respect the prequels falls short of the OT.
Compare that with the battles in the OT. Every battle has a clear purpose, an ebb and flow as both sides jockey for position. Tactics change as the situation changes or as goals are met. The world made sense and was lived in. There was a great evil and adventure to be had. The saber battles were dangerous, serious affairs that were personal matters.
You like the prequels and if the lore is important to you fine. But don't argue how they are better movies. They are not. They are the Star Trek of Nemesis, Insurrection, Final Frontier. Terrible movies best forgotten. Lets not forget they ruined the hell out of Vadar.
As for the American police, given how heavily armed they are to the point of being paramilitary forces, they would put up a pretty good fight and they most certainly wouldn't fight like the idiots do in the prequels. You have all sorts of ex-soldiers, explosives and weapons experts in their ranks. The fat ones will either hide, surrender or die though so there's that and not everyone would be willing to fight.
Don't bring up the novels, or information in them. They are irrelevant.
If the Jedi had just been monks in a temple and you saw Storm Troopers running around keeping the peace fans would have bitched about Obi-Wan being an even bigger liar than he is already accused of.You misread and are mixing two different posts addressing two different ideas. One was an improved story arc that was written as an example of something better than what GL had come up with that took me no more than 5 minutes of thinking. The trade federation is made of clones and the Republic is everyone else banding together to fight.
None of the movies are Science Fiction, they are all Science Fantasy Adventure films. The prequel having failed being good movies fails them at being good in their genre. Science Fiction has a speculative element to it that asks "What if" especially in regards to technology and it's impact on humanity, something that doesn't apply to Star Wars. Action is far more subjective. If your bar for a good action movie is "Explosions" then I can't argue with that.
Says YOU, the entire world calls them science ficiton, Fox even does so, as does Lucas himself You can muddle the definition all you want they are still science fiction at their core even if they don't fit your really odd and ultra strict definition.
Obi-Wan might have described it as a utopia, but what kind of utopia contains people selling Death Sticks, Assassins, crime lords, smugglers, slavery via explosives etc. Clearly Obi-Wan lied, like he does on a lot of other things. He lies to protect Luke and to motivate him, mould him in a way he should have done with Anakin. While lying is a "Bad thing", it was the correct course of action. Had Obi-Wan told the truth, Luke would be either dead, turned or imprisoned. Obi-Wan lies is part of what gave him depth in the OT, this was a man who on the outside is a shining pillar of truth and Justice but was pragmatic, he understood the greys of morality. Just because he is a lair, it doesn't make him a bad person. Another things is that Obi-Wan could simply be unreliable as far as story telling is concerned.
I disgree, there was crime nobody said that but if you see the way Obi Wan handle the deathsticks that is what i am talking about, people will break the law but when they see a Jedi they lose control. I think your not giving the Jedi ENOUGH credit. I even state there were police it is said so in the movies elsewhere or hinted at anyways.
You give Jedi far too much credit and far over estimate their effective power on the individual level and as a group. If they really were as powerful as an army, why didn't they fight those set piece battles by themselves? Why did they have to run away from the trade ship? Why so much trouble against Jago Fett? Simple, they are better, faster and a little bit more sturdier than the average human, but they are not what you would call a super hero. Even Superman can only do so may things at once. Don't tell me that every single Jedi is more powerful than Superman because they are as close to that as you and I are.
Nobody is talking about them being able to stop ALL crime, but they did a good job keeping the PEACE which you said they couldn't succeed at now your changing the argument and accusing me of doing that get your facts straight and get off you high horse. I have studied political science I understand the institution argument and I also understand that this is a FANTASY world completely different from OURS, you are unable to separate HUMAN elements from a non HUMAN society. You are taking EARTH politics and imposing them onto a universe who did not have the same history we did and therefor is not subject to the laws of HUMAN NATURE. If you can not accept that fine but it limits your ability to enjoy the films, which clearly is the case. As such since you can not do that obviously you will hate them.QuoteIf the Jedi had just been monks in a temple and you saw Storm Troopers running around keeping the peace fans would have bitched about Obi-Wan being an even bigger liar than he is already accused of.You misread and are mixing two different posts addressing two different ideas. One was an improved story arc that was written as an example of something better than what GL had come up with that took me no more than 5 minutes of thinking. The trade federation is made of clones and the Republic is everyone else banding together to fight.
FALSE, nowhere is it said the Trade Federation is made of clones, the clone army belonged to the Republic the clones were the "good guys" the Trade Federation controlled the Droid army, did you even watch the damn movies or are you getting all your information off the web or someplace else?
The other is part of the argument that government needs institutions to function. the Jedi aren't subservient to the government and the government aren't influenced by them. The Jedi are not much more than a group of vigilantes.
WRONG, the films again clearly show the Sith using his mind powers to control the Senate and to hide his actions from the Jedi, if a SINGLE SITH is so powerful he can pull it off how can you NOT expect an entire army of who knows how many Jedi to do the same? A single Superman could not but an ARMY of Superman could very well pull it off.
You tried to describe parts of the Prequels as "C-span in space". If this had any truth to it, why didn't they talk about the institutions that make up the Republic like the Tax Office or Department of trade and tariffs or law review court, anti-corruption agency, the Central Bank, Ministry of Justice, DMV? These are the tools of government and when something is decided upon it is up to these institutions to implement them. The "Government" represented in the prequels had none of this. It didn't have even something as basic as a diplomatic protection service as you see everyone were forced to bring their own security or hope they have a Jedi with them. The Republic shown had no power, the leader is no more than a mediator, has no proper processes to do anything and even the word of a Jedi has no power. It wasn't a government, at best it was a forum where fundamentally benign fussed over.
WRONG again, I never said that someone else did as a complaint so your confusing me with someone else now stick to the topic stop straying off or else you look bad. Now these views I can agree with so again you CONFUSED my argument I was addressing ONLY the battle of Naboo read my post again damn it. You talked about the Battle of Geonisis being a meat grinder or whatever term you used, I disagree watch the fucking movie again, it is shown they space battle is taking place out of view of the audience they are shooting down the federation ships. The ground troops were only trying to STOP the war Obi wan said it right there if we catch Dooku we end this war right now, their strategy WAS flawed they thought if they threw their entire army at one man they could stop him, that Supports my claim they had no prior military training DUH we addressed that. YOU make it sound like they should have the strategic commend of a battle hardened general when they did not have that they had the command of a bunch of religious fanatics who had no clue what they were doing. EVEN if you take the Clone programming into equation they were progerammed to flow orders not give orders so even if the clone KNEW Yoda was being a fool it was AGAINST their programming to defy his orders so again the inexperienced Jedi were fighting a war they had no business being in hence why there was a DEBATE against creating the army in the first place. The Army was created WITHOUT the approval of the senate and their knowledge so HOW could the Senate have a say in their programming? Palpatine was manipulating the entire thing he was controlling BOTH armies clearly it was in HIS interest to start the war therefore he was and DID manipulate things because he was in control also even the Jedi had to follow HIS orders they gave him that power in the VOTE in the middle of the movie if you actually watched it you would know this but I think you only watched it maybe once when it was new, felt you hated it read a review on why someone else hated it and agreed with him without actually questioning that review. Prove my wrong by actually getting your facts from the movie straight. Again I AM NOT saying these are GREAT movies I am just disagreeing with your assessment of the battles.
What of the rules of the government? One was a vote of no confidence for a leader change, which is simple enough. Another was a call for an investigation. But who was going to go investigate? Didn't we already investigate and have a report already? Does a Jedi word mean nothing? Who makes executive decisions? Write laws? Runs commissions? Where is the human drama? Go watch the West Wing or the House of Card as examples of good political drama to see why the prequels failed so absolutely in this regard.
NO, I studied political science HUMAN EARTH politics do not apply to this space fantasy world. If you can not separate the two of course you will have issues with them but a reasonable person who can think logically ought to be able to deduce that A Long TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY is not the same as the fucking West Wing. I am not here to write an essay on the politics of the films I don't care enough about them or you to do that, I enjoy them for what they are I don't HATE THEM for what they are not. Clearly we differ there. That is the core if it which will not change.
The Empire in had these at least in an implied sense in the form of the stromtroopers, the dissolved senate, the space navy, planetary governors with direct control via stromtroopers.
It all boils down to a simple fact. The prequels are terrible movies as they are ill thought out, badly shot, boring, tensionless, horrific writing, poorly acted, even more poorly directed that made real peoples lives worse off. The prequels being terrible movies is a far easier explanation for all the wild inconsistencies than to try to cover them up after the fact.
If you like them, fine, we can move on and stop this nonsense, but they aren't good movies by any measure other than "Has Explosions".
Says you, you define them as terrible because YOU can not separate the world of fiction so that means YOU can not appreciate them it does not mean they are not good movies by any measure, they are GOOD movies by the sense they do what ALL Star Wars movies before and after do, they create an epic world of fantasy that viewers can escape into, assuming those viewers do not over think what is going on. I asked if you scrutinize Avengers or other science fiction films of this nature and your response was saying these aren't science fiction TO YOU. So I guess you just have it in your head you are right period and refuse to accept you could be wrong? Good one. I said they are not great films I never said they were but they are not as bad as YOU claim nor are they terrible films either.
*Don't mention the books because none of that information is "Canon".
I didn't mention the books **** can you even read? I mentioned the NOVELIZATION which is canon it has always been assumed so, and if you read my post I called that into QUESTION ALREADY so stop right there sir and READ my actual posts.
**You're constantly having trouble keeping different bits of information bleeding into each other resulting in unreadable messes.
Wrong, you are stuck on a lopsided view and refuse to accept any view contrary to yours. I said my peace and I can't convince you other wise.
***Order 66 is what killed the Jedi and Vadar went after the stragglers.
SO? When did I disagree with this? What is the point in even making a statement that has nothing to do with anything I said? Who are you arguing with now? Are you just arguing in general?
**** The Emperor had taken control of the Republic via silent Military coup assisted by apathy and kept the Senate as a form of control.
He Disolved the senate when it no longer was of use to him, if he NEEDED them why would he disolve them. OR let me spin it this way, if he NEEDed the Senate and LUCAS said he disolved it doesn't that make A New Hope a terrible movie because it punches holes in logic? Make up your mind, OR watch the god damn movies!
soo... anyone picking up New Dawn next month?
This thread went from zero to tl;dr in a hurry.Yep.
So, err, any body watched the de-specialized Editions aka the Original cut?
Put Boba Fett in there, have him doing awesome stuff for a while, and then he takes off his helmet and it's Jar Jar.
Err, you don't "Buy" these. They are reconstructions made by a very hardcore fan and are made to an extremely high quality from multiple sources. All the original quirks are in them. No shock rings, partially transparent snow speeders, original light saber effects, Han shoots first and last.
I can PM where to get them if you can't find them by yourself as I am sure the Mods would frown upon me.
Err, you don't "Buy" these. They are reconstructions made by a very hardcore fan and are made to an extremely high quality from multiple sources. All the original quirks are in them. No shock rings, partially transparent snow speeders, original light saber effects, Han shoots first and last.
I can PM where to get them if you can't find them by yourself as I am sure the Mods would frown upon me.
The new helmet designs for Storm troopers in VII.
https://indierevolver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wpid-st-helmet.jpg
https://indierevolver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wpid-jt-sun.jpg
I like the first one, but i'm really not digging the second one.
For a long time Star Wars fans have been clamoring for Disney/Lucasfilm to re-release the original, unaltered cut of the first Star Wars trilogy, and Comicbook.com has now confirmed with two independent reliable sources that just such a plan is under way.
According to our sources, Disney has plans to release the original cut of the Star Wars trilogy on Blu-ray. Our sources indicate that the project has been under way for quite some time, but it’s been challenging because of some damage to the original negatives they are utilizing. The goal is to release A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of Jedi in their complete, unaltered, original form without the redone special edition SFX.
Our sources did not have an exact date as to when the original cut of the Star Wars Trilogy would be released on Blu-ray, due to the challenges Disney has encountered in pulling everything together. However, our sources indicated the goal is to have it ready and released before Star Wars Episode VII is released in theaters.
cant disney just tak the unedited vhs copies and put them on bluray?
VHS was good enough when i first saw star wars in 96.
Disney gives Fox a ton of money to release the original trilogy on Blu-Ray, Disney gets Fantastic Four and X-Men from Fox. Sounds like win-win to me if this happened. Star Wars Universe and Marvel Cinematic Universe are both saved in one transaction. Life complete.
Another rumor this time coming from making star wars
- George Lucas – George’s vision for the Sequel Trilogy was to take it right back to the beginning. Meaning, the beginning of the Jedi and Sith, how that came to be and how ancients forces were still influencing things. Luke was going to go on an adventure that would take him back to the origin of evil in the Galaxy. Some of these ideas have very much influenced the story.
- This seems alot more reasonable and pausable, intrestingly enough that last bit was something that was forshadowed twice in the Clone Wars and the beginning could stand for two things.
We are just about less than a year away, Netflix just announced they are going to be getting movies day and date with theatrical releases next year so I am getting excited for this movie. I will be doing my part to build the hype.
Always two threads, there are: a master (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=7756.0), and an apprentice (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=39774.0).
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I want the next Star Wars to have light saber battles!! Like, the force awakens the light sabers and they start battling each other wwzzzshhhmm! bzzt! wwzzzshhhmm! bzzt! wwzzzshhhmm! bzzt! for the last 45 minutes of the movie. That's all the ideas I have for right now.You know what let's take Star Wars to 11. No more Biological. We all know the Droids had the most personality in the Universe anyway. Movie about Droids, Spaceships, and Light Sabers that are themselves Jedi and able to fight each other and collect limbs from Droids and Spaceships. We will call it Star Wars-E
That is the most awful movie I have ever read. Its nothing but disjointed fanservice without basic movie framework at all. Your idea of what is a good movie is just beyond bad.
Also **** Tatooine and **** lightsabres. Tatooine is a barren wasteland, why do we have to go back there again. I rather they have no lightsabers than get flashy with them, keep them relatively subtle like in the OT.
What I want is a proper movie like they use to make and rarely do now. A film with dignity and respect for the audience. That touch of magic as it were. Not this vapid vibrating flash we get now.
I will enjoy the movie they make, you will hate it no matter what so I win, thanks for playing.You just admitted if they feed you a movie equivalent of a **** sandwich you would eat and enjoy it.
And I'd argue that Star Trek 09 was almost a classic in the since that if it wasn't named Star Trek(I also enjoyed into darkness)
If you couldn't make a good Star Trek movie then it wasn't a good movie in the first place.
Mario and Zelda games are released on a frequent enough basis that that doesn't set in, though. People don't have time enough to put one game on so much of a pedestal before the next one comes out.The series itself is the pedestal, each new game is compared to every predecessor. What's new, old, improved, bad? How different is it? Add the greater time investment to play a game and the interact with the player. The pedestal is there alright, its so big you're standing on it and think it's the ground.
The PT doesn't have flaws as they are mistakes better off erased like a holiday special. The OT has endured because they are fundamentally solid movies at heart not because they got put on a pedestal. Saying they are good because they were put on a pedestal is putting the cart before the horse.
Hey, you're the one wilfully taking the abuse. You're the one willing to accept beatings for any Star Wars. You're the one who wrote that awful wall of scum that brought us here.Mario and Zelda games are released on a frequent enough basis that that doesn't set in, though. People don't have time enough to put one game on so much of a pedestal before the next one comes out.The series itself is the pedestal, each new game is compared to every predecessor. What's new, old, improved, bad? How different is it? Add the greater time investment to play a game and the interact with the player. The pedestal is there alright, its so big you're standing on it and think it's the ground.
Mario and Zelda games are released on a frequent enough basis that that doesn't set in, though. People don't have time enough to put one game on so much of a pedestal before the next one comes out.The series itself is the pedestal, each new game is compared to every predecessor. What's new, old, improved, bad? How different is it? Add the greater time investment to play a game and the interact with the player. The pedestal is there alright, its so big you're standing on it and think it's the ground.
Disney buying SW is probaly the first time Disney has saved something. JJ is not a good choice, but GL is the worst choice. I rather Brett Rathner or Bay to take it than GL. With Brett or Bay it would be holy **** laugh about it bad compared to WTF is this.
Movies are one of the few places where the the engineering problem of 3 options pick 2 doesn't have apply.
The OT had awkward dialogue which is part of storytelling, but not the whole equation. The plot is fine expect maybe in the case of ROTJ because of the problems stated above but in turn it didn't have the awkward dialogue of the first 2. The elements the film focuses on is fine and this becomes increasingly important when you start adding multiple ongoing threads which can get pretty extreme like in Inception. Then there is the pacing and they are very steady in the OT which some people mistaken for boring since they tend to be people who must have always have something happening now.
So no, I most definitely disagree with your assessment. There is no reason why we can't have a spectacle and have good storytelling. If one was to get every single element right you would have movies that could surpass the originals. It would be very hard, but JJ just isn't up to it.
The upcoming movies are going to make all the expanded universe novel fans very angry.
The upcoming movies are going to make all the expanded universe novel fans very angry.
I changed my mind. I am still hyped for this new movie, I still like the previous films so that is all I will say on it anymore.
I changed my mind. I am still hyped for this new movie, I still like the previous films so that is all I will say on it anymore.You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your
I changed my mind. I am still hyped for this new movie, I still like the previous films so that is all I will say on it anymore.
I changed my mind. I am still hyped for this new movie, I still like the previous films so that is all I will say on it anymore.
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• Luke Skywalker is NOT a Jedi—not yet, at least.
• He’s only ever met one Jedi in his life...and he died.
• So, Luke’s quest leads him back to Obi-Wan’s hut...on Tatooine.
I could not / would not / should not read those leaks just in case they end up being true.
The story of Star Wars: Battlefront’s campaign will span pretty much the entire Star Wars saga.
Star Wars Battlefront will feature segments in which you play as both the good guys (Old Republic, Rebellion and Republic) and bad guys (Separatists and the Empire). It was specifically stated that there will be a small portion of prequel trilogy content. You will participate in a couple of battles from the Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and the space battle above Corsucant from the beginning of Revenge of the Sith.
The majority of the campaign will take place during the original trilogy era. All of the battles and settings that you would expect to be there will be playable. It was said that the campaign itself is pretty long when compared to other first person shooters.
There will be some segments of the campaign which take place between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. There won’t be a lot because in their words “Lucasfilm has a lot of plans for that era.”
The last section of the campaign takes place before and during the opening segments of The Force Awakens. Don’t expect anything too revealing, because the game is expected to ship about a month before the movie releases.
For both the Republic (that’s what the good guys are being called in the production here) and Empire sections you will be playing characters that actually appear in The Force Awakens.
EA/DICE was allowed into Pinewood Studios for a few days to scan and capture props, sets, etc for recreation in the game.
At one point either during either the portion between episodes 6 and 7 or the portion from the beginning of The Force Awakens a character with the last name Tarkin appears.
The scale of the multiplayer is going to be absolutely massive with up 64 players participating on each side.
Space to land battles are absolutely happening, but will only be available in certain game modes.
There will be a “hero” system in place, where as you play you accumulate points that you can eventually cash in to play as a “hero” character. These characters are extremely powerful and have abilities that are not available to the normal characters that you play for most of the matches. The system is constantly in flux, but as it is now, pretty much everyone have a chance to play as a hero at least once per match.
The Downloadable Content plan for the game is “extremely aggressive”. Expect up to five DLC packs for the game, with the first coming out before the end of 2015. Each pack will be themed, with the first two or three being exclusively based around content from The Force Awakens.
The game will ship with several The Force Awakens characters already, but some won’t be added until DLC. Specifically all of the characters in the trailers will be available at launch, as will new versions of the X-wing an TIE fighter.
Tons of new ships and vehicles.
The contents of each DLC will contain at least three new maps, new hero characters, and new vehicles/ships.
I saw a character model for the new Stormtroopers, the model for the new X-wings, and some random models of guns, grenades, and other things like that. However, the most interesting thing was a picture of a screen from one of the employee databases.
It was as a checklist that the department heads can go through to see whats been complete, whats been bug tested, etc. It was basically just a black screen with lines and lines of text posts, with comments and suggestions under each post. What was most interesting about this is what was listed. This particular screen I saw was for a listing of maps for the multiplayer mode. There was a lot of stuff that you’d expect to see in a game like this like:
Hoth: EP5
Endor: EP6
Alderaan
Corscucant
Yavin: EP4
Like I said, nothing major. EXCEPT for this listing that I saw
Tatooine: EP1
Tatooine; EP4
Tatooine: EP7
Now, I know that’s not concrete evidence that the desert planet from The Force Awakens is Tatooine, but I thought it was interesting because I know there was been some debate about that subject.
That is a lot to take in and if the information is accurate, it sounds like a really great experience for Star Wars fans and the links to the new movie sounds pretty good considering how paltry it could be.
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[/size]The second Death Star is destroyed. The Emperor and his powerful enforcer, Darth Vader, are rumored to be dead. The Galactic Empire is in chaos.[/size]Across the galaxy, some systems celebrate, while in others Imperial factions tighten their grip. Optimism and fear reign side by side.
And while the Rebel Alliance engages the fractured forces of the Empire, a lone Rebel scout uncovers a secret Imperial meeting…
This thrilling Young Adult novel gives readers a macro view of some of the most important events in the Star Wars universe, from the rise of the Rebellion to the fall of the Empire. Readers will experience these major moments through the eyes of two childhood friends-Ciena Ree and Thane Kyrell-who have grown up to become an Imperial officer and a Rebel pilot. Now on opposite sides of the war, will these two star-crossed lovers reunite, or will duty tear them-and the galaxy-apart?
[/size]Star Wars: Lost Stars also includes all-new post-Star Wars: Return of the Jedi content, as well as hints and clues about the upcoming film Star Wars: The Force Awakens, making this a must-read for all Star Wars fans.
Luke Skywalker returns for an all-new adventure in this thrilling upper middle grade novel. Set between Star Wars: A New Hopeand Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, the story finds Luke Skywalker, C-3PO, and R2-D2 stranded on a mysterious planet, and explores Luke’s first-ever duel with a lightsaber. Hidden in the story are also clues and hints about the upcoming film Star Wars: The Force Awakens, making this a must-read for fans old and new!
Han Solo and Chewbacca the Wookiee team-up for an all-new adventure in this thrilling upper middle grade novel. Set betweenStar Wars: A New Hope and Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back,the story follows everyone’s favorite pair of smugglers as they fly theMillennium Falcon on a top-secret mission for the Rebellion. Hidden in the story are also hints and clues about the upcoming film, Star Wars: The Force Awakens, making this a must-read for fans old and new!
Princess Leia returns for an all-new adventure in this thrilling upper middle grade novel. Set between Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: The Return of the Jedi, the story follows the warrior princess as she leads a ragtag group of rebels on a dangerous mission against the evil Galactic Empire. Hidden in the story are also hints and clues about the upcoming film Star Wars: The Force Awakens, making this a must-read for fans old and new!
Based on unproduced scripts from the blockbuster TV show Star Wars: The Clone Wars!
The only way to bring down the dark side’s most dangerous warrior may be for Jedi and Sith to join forces.
In the war for control of the galaxy between the armies of the dark side and the Republic, former Jedi Master turned ruthless Sith Lord Count Dooku has grown ever more brutal in his tactics. Despite the powers of the Jedi and the military prowess of their clone army, the sheer number of fatalities is taking a terrible toll. And when Dooku orders the massacre of a flotilla of helpless refugees, the Jedi Council feels it has no choice but to take drastic action: targeting the man responsible for so many war atrocities, Count Dooku himself.
But the ever-elusive Dooku is dangerous prey for even the most skilled hunter. So the Council makes the bold decision to bring both sides of the Force’s power to bear—pairing brash Jedi Knight Quinlan Vos with infamous one-time Sith acolyte Asajj Ventress. Though Jedi distrust for the cunning killer who once served at Dooku’s side still runs deep, Ventress’s hatred for her former master runs deeper. She’s more than willing to lend her copious talents as a bounty hunter—and assassin—to Vos’s quest.
Together, Ventress and Vos are the best hope for eliminating Dooku—as long as the emerging feelings between them don’t compromise their mission. But Ventress is determined to have her retribution and at last let go of her dark Sith past. Balancing the complicated emotions she feels for Vos with the fury of her warrior’s spirit, she resolves to claim victory on all fronts—a vow that will be mercilessly tested by her deadly enemy . . . and her own doubt.
that is why when EA got the license, i was like "ah **** that"
He is finally done and has pre-emptively put to shame whatever JJ is going to throw up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
Far more Star Wars than the prequels and Rebels combined.
Eh the actual framing is off forth star fights which ahs something that has been consistent for majority of the series. Also the series has never been about Graphic death imo.
He is finally done and has pre-emptively put to shame whatever JJ is going to throw up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
Far more Star Wars than the prequels and Rebels combined.
Harrison Ford looks...old.
Why does Chewie not look any more gray? He may have a longer lifespan but they still age and their fur changes color. Or will he be immortal now?
I don't remember, is Billy Dee Williams making an appearance in this film?
Is poor Lando about to be stabbed by Norman Bates in that picture? Why is he sitting with his feet up in front of a shower curtain, anyway?
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designs for planets,You have to be shitting me on this. Single biome planets is good design? Also **** desert planet, no reason that one planet should ever show up that much.
I just meant they look nice in concept paintings and whatnot. I like space paintings.designs for planets,You have to be shitting me on this. Single biome planets is good design? Also **** desert planet, no reason that one planet should ever show up that much.
[Star Wars Spin-off] + [Fantastic Four]
Josh Trank is off the Star Wars movie.
word is that there were some troubles with Fantastic Four (neither Fox nor the Producers, who is also doing Star Wars, was happy with his performance). No word on what that means for F4, but it's probably as bad as we all thought it would be.
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/josh-trank-no-longer-directing-star-wars-spinoff-1201485909/ (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/josh-trank-no-longer-directing-star-wars-spinoff-1201485909/)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-wars-standalone-film-loses-792892?utm_source=twitter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-wars-standalone-film-loses-792892?utm_source=twitter)
You guys do realize that Han is supposed to be a huge asshole until the end of empire right? Marrying someone and taking off is pretty consistent with his character and the leaks for VII fall in line with this as well.Didn't seem like he was an asshole at the end of A New Hope.
Or a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking, nerf herder.
Or a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking, nerf herder.
HEY! Who's scruffy-looking?
Something something dark side. Let the hate flow...
This is going to be soo bad.
Where's Luke?
Most definitely not a JJ fan. Man is a Hack Fraud.
I'm not a huge fan of Abrams either, but when you get handed a project like this, much like the Avengers, you have to put your heart and soul into making it a lovable movie. Abrams at least seems to understand the necessity of practical effects, even though the latest trailer implies anything but that. Seriously, we don't need to see what a Hyperspace Jump looks like in process. That cheapens the magic.
In any case, I'm tentatively interested.
Maybe Kylo is Han and Leia's son. And Han's reserved nature is based on him trying to save his son from the dark side. "Kylo Ren Solo, Grandson of Darth Vader"
My prediction and (probably) possible spoiler - Rey is Luke Skywalker's daughter, and Luke will die in the movie.
The fact that NO ONE remembers what Jedi and Sith are? What is this, the galaxy where word of mouth circulates slower than Hyperspeed?
You know what really doesn't sit right with me? The new trailers, the factions, the designs. It's all just more of the same. All you need to make a good Star Wars trailer is a guy with a black mask and a red lightsaber, stormtroopers, tie fighters, x wings, and the Falcon. The Resistance and the First Order? The fact that NO ONE remembers what Jedi and Sith are? What is this, the galaxy where word of mouth circulates slower than Hyperspeed?
It's all the same notes as the older movies in an attempt to introduce a new audience. The problem is, EVERYONE HAS SEEN STAR WARS.
4,5,1,2,3,6,7Crazy person here rating the prequels over Jedi.
The OT weren't kids movies(except for the Ewoks), they were movies that happen to be watchable by kids. Calling them Kids movies is a weak excuse to wash real critical criticism one can lay on Star Wars OT and especially PT.
I disagree. It met and/or exceeded every expectation I had. Saw it twice today.
Though, I think you could probably Edit the prequel trilogy into 2 movies and have a much better experience...maybe even 1 really long movie.
Rey Skywalker (still Han's kid but took her mothers name since she hates her dad)
Fin (where's jake?) Calrissian
That's all for now!
WATTO: (subtitled) Coona tee-tocky malia? (What took you so long?)
ANAKIN: (subtitled) Mel tassa cho-passa... (I was cleaning the bin like you...)
REY: Tal'ama parqual!
[The Teedo and BB-8 STOP, GO SILENT, turn to her.]
REY: Parqual zatana!A half beat and the Teedo YELLS SOMETHING BACK, threatening. BB-8's head swivels to him, then back to Rey, like watching a tennis match. Rey angrily moves to them, pulling a knife from her pouch. Rey starts CUTTING BB-8 out of the netting. The Teedo freaks out, YELLING. Rey suddenly stands, turns to the Teedo and says, fiercely:
REY: NOMA.
The Teedo barks a sort of "AHHHHH!" (As if to say, "GO TO HELL!"), Then heads off on his beast. This prompts BB-8 to start BEEP-YELLING at the departing bully, provocatively.
I couldn't stand Rebels. Ezra bugged the ever living hell out of me and based on what I read he never changes. Then there is the obvious "Hidden" Jedi. Oh great the fucking Force. Hot Topic Mandolorian. Noped out around ep3.
The idea that Jedi's highest most respected period and their fall and galaxy that thinks they are a forgot relic of a religion is too short. It really hurt the story.To me, the issue was making the Jedi Order so large and pervasive. If the Jedi Order was far smaller, more inclusive, more hermitic, it would be easier to explain why so many people haven’t seen or heard of Jedi and why those who have consider them a relic of the past.
The Prequel Series should have been about the clone war and the rise of the Empire, but it should not have been about the origin of Darth Vader. Or at least if it was, they could have just let people live much longer lives in this universe and had it take place 100 to 150 years in the past.If people lived longer, would it really change how people remember things?
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What is the whole point of Leia being Luke's sister? Like from a storytelling perspective what does this contribute to the movie particularly since at the time this was the final film in a trilogy and I don't think they were planning anything else? Leia does nothing of significance related to that other than saying "I can feel it" at the end. Vader mentioning his sister causes Luke to go bezerk in their lightsaber duel but it is really not needed in the movie at all. Leia is the backup if Luke fails but Luke doesn't fail so it serves no purpose. What it does accomplish is make Leia kissing Luke in Empire come across as creepy after the fact. My guess is they threw that "there is another" thing in Empire with no real plans and then had to pay it off in Jedi despite it not contributing to the plot in any real way.
Hell it isn't really much of a mystery to Luke. Yoda tells him there is another and then dies and then 10 seconds later Luke talks to Obi-Wan who reveals his sister. As a kid when I would demand instant gratification at all times I didn't notice this but as an adult it's pretty lame. Like Luke trying to figure out who Yoda was talking about could have had a chance to build up throughout the film for a dramatic pay off but they just reveal it instantly. Contrast this with Luke's father who is referenced throughout two movies before the ultimate pay off.
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