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I for one welcome the glorious return of overconfident E3 2006 Sony.

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Kairon:
Sony was THIIIISSS close to repeating their whole "FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS" fiasco. I think they were pulled back from that precipice by Microsoft pricing so aggressively.

ThePerm:


I forgot to prediction gloat


--- Quote from: ThePerm on March 30, 2019, 05:54:14 AM ---I'd be interested in a really nice NES Cart sized sd card like format in shiny transparnet poly-acrylic shell which has gold leafed labels.

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Damn no gold leaf labels. Not transparent. I wonder how long it will take Sony to just ship a game on that format.

pokepal148:

--- Quote from: broodwars on March 29, 2021, 11:38:12 PM ---Continuing Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO's Jim Ryan's legacy of incompetence and disdain for Sony's heritage, Sony finally officially confirmed today the closure dates for the PS3, PSP, & Vita PSN Stores. This follows last year's removal of those systems from their redesigned-to-be-**** browser-based store.

The PS3 & PSP online stores will go offline on 7/2/21, and the Vita's store will go down on 8/27/21. This effectively permanently kills off the Vita (which was still seeing new indie games), as Sony shut down manufacturing of Vita game cards years ago so no new physical media can be produced.

The one good(ish) piece of news from all this is that owners of these consoles will still be able to redownload titles from their Download History, provided they're willing to scroll through the thousands of pages of entries they've accumulated by this point (I did that once. Never again).

I fucking despise Jim Ryan. I've never seen someone so dedicated to killing the PlayStation brand, from his censorship policies almost exclusively against Japanese games, to his on-record disdain for older games, to the closure of Sony Japan Studios, to his lack of interest in making anything other than games in the Naughty Dog mold.

https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-store-shut-down-ps3-vita-psp

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I just love the optics of Sony cutting off support for their first digital only console almost immediately after they launched the PS5 all digital version.

Adrock:

--- Quote from: pokepal148 on March 31, 2021, 01:04:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: broodwars on March 29, 2021, 11:38:12 PM ---Continuing Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO's Jim Ryan's legacy of incompetence and disdain for Sony's heritage, Sony finally officially confirmed today the closure dates for the PS3, PSP, & Vita PSN Stores. This follows last year's removal of those systems from their redesigned-to-be-**** browser-based store.

The PS3 & PSP online stores will go offline on 7/2/21, and the Vita's store will go down on 8/27/21. This effectively permanently kills off the Vita (which was still seeing new indie games), as Sony shut down manufacturing of Vita game cards years ago so no new physical media can be produced.

The one good(ish) piece of news from all this is that owners of these consoles will still be able to redownload titles from their Download History, provided they're willing to scroll through the thousands of pages of entries they've accumulated by this point (I did that once. Never again).

I fucking despise Jim Ryan. I've never seen someone so dedicated to killing the PlayStation brand, from his censorship policies almost exclusively against Japanese games, to his on-record disdain for older games, to the closure of Sony Japan Studios, to his lack of interest in making anything other than games in the Naughty Dog mold.

https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-store-shut-down-ps3-vita-psp

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I just love the optics of Sony cutting off support for their first digital only console almost immediately after they launched the PS5 all digital version.

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Would you believe this actually gets worse? I meant to post this the other day, and I was debating whether it was worth starting a new thread. I completely forgot about this one so thanks for bringing it back up.

There are issues on PS3, PS4, and probably PSP and Vita that appear to be caused by the internal clock which will prevent people from playing digital games and even physical games on PS4.

The CMOS battery in these PlayStations powers the SRAM chip that stores firmware settings including the date/time. Without those settings, you have to be connected to the internet to pull the date/time from Sony's servers. This is presumably to prevent people from manually changing the date/time for Trophies. Regardless, if your battery dies after the servers go down accidentally or intentionally, you'll never be able to play your games again. That is, unless Sony fixes this, of course.

Youtuber HikikomoriMedia discovered the PS3 issue:

--- Quote ---As it stands, my PS3 has a dead Pram (cmos) battery. When disconnected from the internet and changing the date, I am not allowed to launch any of my purchased digital content.
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The link above is to his Tweet which includes video if you're interested.

Twitter user DoesItPlay discovered the PS4 issue:

--- Quote ---when the ps4 cmos battery dies (and it will) it renders all ps4 digital files unusable without a server reconnection and in ps4 it also kills disc playback
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The link is to the whole twitter thread that explains the issue further:

--- Quote ---This error is because Trophies on PS4 require the internal system clock (the one you can’t see / alter) to be correct, so people cant change their PS4 date/time to make it look like they got trophies earlier than they really did. If your PS4 clock battery dies, all your games die
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The argument for physical vs. digital was always that if servers go down or a game is pulled, you'll still be able to play your games, unpatched but still. At least on PlayStation, there's a path for that not being true. I don't mean to be alarmist. The CMOS battery takes forever to die as long as the battery itself wasn't bad to begin with. By the time it dies, most people are probably done with the system anyway. Out of principle, it's still pretty fucked up.

UncleBob:
So, all you have to do is replace the battery and connect to PSN once?  As long as some form of the PSN exists, you should be okay?

I mean, this isn't ideal (and, in theory, is something Sony could patch at some hypothetical point in the future when PSN support is totally taken away), but it doesn't seem as world-ending as some are making it out to be.

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