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tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #850 on:** December 30, 2013, 02:25:45 PM »

I was never talking about installing apps onto an SD card. I was explaining how the internal storage was broken up into different partitions ("device storage" and "USB storage").

Anyways, my next phone will be the Moto G. $200 for a new mid-range smartphone with stock Android is a great deal, and I won't have to deal with my Galaxy S2's wonky storage issues.

I'm surprised there wasn't a disclaimer on the box showing that only 2 GB (out of 16 GB) is available for app downloads. That's misleading advertising. It's like buying a 500 GB hard drive and only having 100 GB available to use.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #851 on:** December 30, 2013, 03:47:30 PM »

Quote from: tendoboy1984 on December 30, 2013, 02:25:45 PM

I'm surprised there wasn't a disclaimer on the box showing that only 2 GB (out of 16 GB) is available for app downloads. That's misleading advertising. It's like buying a 500 GB hard drive and only having 100 GB available to use.

But that's ALWAYS been the case?

If you buy a 1TB hard drive and format it in NTFS (for use with XP or newer) you get 930gb of actual space to use. That other 70ish is for the file system and cannot be "used".

On a personal note, i'm still debating heavily whether to buy a 16gb Moto G to replace my iPod. If there was a 32gb version it would be insta-buy territory.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #852 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:18:19 PM »

That's actually not true at all. You get the difference in size because of what a gigabyte really is (1024MB) and what they call it at retail (1 million bytes). 1 byte is 8 bits, a KB is 1024bytes, an MB is 1024KB, etc. So when they sell you a hard drive with 1 million bytes, they call that 1GB, when in reality 1GB is 1048586 bytes. They call 1 billion bytes "1TB" when 1TB is really 1024GB, or 1073741824 bytes. So it looks like you're losing 70GB out of a 1TB HDD, when in actuality you're just being lied to by the manufacturer about how much capacity the drive has.

Stratos · « **Reply #853 on:** December 30, 2013, 06:01:49 PM »

So that explains why the S2 doesn't let me access all of the storage. I wonder why I didn't find that online? I was searching about why the USB storage wasn't working. Maybe because everyone online who knows what is up has already rooted their phones and taken care of the issue.

I really need to get around to learning how to root my phone. Been meaning to do it since I got it but I've been both too busy and too lazy to do it. I'd rather be hunting monsters or hoarding furniture.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #854 on:** December 30, 2013, 09:36:14 PM »

It's easy, just go to XDA and look it up. You'll need Odin, the Samsung USB drivers and a custom recovery. It seems like it may be difficult at first but it's really straight forward (just makes sure you download the proper carrier version of your update - Sprint, AT&T, etc) and take just a minute once it's set up.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #855 on:** December 31, 2013, 08:27:18 AM »

Quote from: Brandogg on December 30, 2013, 04:18:19 PM

That's actually not true at all. You get the difference in size because of what a gigabyte really is (1024MB) and what they call it at retail (1 million bytes). 1 byte is 8 bits, a KB is 1024bytes, an MB is 1024KB, etc. So when they sell you a hard drive with 1 million bytes, they call that 1GB, when in reality 1GB is 1048586 bytes. They call 1 billion bytes "1TB" when 1TB is really 1024GB, or 1073741824 bytes. So it looks like you're losing 70GB out of a 1TB HDD, when in actuality you're just being lied to by the manufacturer about how much capacity the drive has.

I didn't know that (i just assumed they were approximating 1TB to mean 1024GB, not they were literally meaning 1000GB). Misconceptions indeed. Thanks

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #856 on:** December 31, 2013, 08:56:48 AM »

No problem, I didn't mean to come off rude if I did. A lot of people believe that the "used by file system" thing is why there is disparity when it's really just semantics.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #857 on:** December 31, 2013, 12:45:00 PM »

But the problem with the Galaxy S2 is that you only get 2 GB for apps, and the rest of the 16 GB is used for media files (music, videos, photos). Imagine if iOS or Windows Phone did **** like that...

I'm surprised consumers haven't complained to Samsung / Google about this. Why couldn't Samsung just give us a single unified partition to do whatever we want with?

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #858 on:** December 31, 2013, 03:54:02 PM »

I'm more surprised that people complain on Nintendo fan site forums and ignore everything that people tell them.

shingi_70 · « **Reply #859 on:** December 31, 2013, 05:34:17 PM »

Quote from: tendoboy1984 on December 31, 2013, 12:45:00 PM

But the problem with the Galaxy S2 is that you only get 2 GB for apps, and the rest of the 16 GB is used for media files (music, videos, photos). Imagine if iOS or Windows Phone did **** like that...

I'm surprised consumers haven't complained to Samsung / Google about this. Why couldn't Samsung just give us a single unified partition to do whatever we want with?

your complaining about a two year phone that was running a custom baked version of Gingerbread upon release and was made at a very different time where 2GB was enough to run most apps.

What excatly are you using on your phone anyway.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #860 on:** December 31, 2013, 06:37:29 PM »

Verizon gets the Moto G January 9th for $99 - WITHOUT contract - that's pretty crazy. You get the best network (no LTE though) and the phone is $80 less than the GSM unlocked version.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #861 on:** January 02, 2014, 12:06:36 AM »

Yeah, this seems about right.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #862 on:** January 02, 2014, 11:54:38 PM »

Verizon and AT&T = No unlimited data
T-Mobile and Sprint = Unlimited data

Good thing I have T-Mobile. Verizon is overpriced anyways.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #863 on:** January 03, 2014, 09:17:32 AM »

Quote from: tendoboy1984 on January 02, 2014, 11:54:38 PM

Verizon and AT&T = No unlimited data
T-Mobile and Sprint = Unlimited data

Good thing I have T-Mobile. Verizon is overpriced anyways.

T-Mobile and Sprint both want to gain customers. Therefore they need to be more appealing. Verizon and AT&T (with comparatively more mature networks and customer numbers) don't need to. So they can gouge for pricing as necessary.

Three is in it's growth phase over here too, recently introducing free roaming to all Three UK customers (be it prepaid, postpaid or mobile broadband) to the USA and 10 other countries, offering unlimited data/tethering and a free speed increase to LTE (still including unlimited data/tethering) if your phone can support it.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #864 on:** January 03, 2014, 12:22:21 PM »

AT&T has unlimited data, they just don't want you to know about it. aio Wireless (owned by AT&T) has unlimited data (LTE), and many other resellers like Net 10 can give you unlimited data on AT&T.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #865 on:** January 03, 2014, 12:49:51 PM »

Acer just announced a pair of new tablets, the 8" A1-830 ($149), and the 7" B1-750 ($129). The A1 has similar specs to the Dell Venue 8 (including an Intel Atom processor), while the B1 is a slight upgrade to last year's model. Both tablets come with 16GB storage.

So now I have more choices for when I eventually buy an Android tablet. My budget is $200 and under.
- Dell Venue 8
- Nook HD / HD+
- Acer A1-830

The Dell and Nook tablets come with 32GB storage for under $200, but the Nook has outdated hardware. The Acer tablets only have 16GB storage.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #866 on:** January 03, 2014, 01:13:54 PM »

Both of those Acer tablets are ****. 8GB Nexus 7 (2013) is $199 now.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #867 on:** January 03, 2014, 08:46:29 PM »

Quote from: tendoboy1984 on January 02, 2014, 11:54:38 PM

Verizon and AT&T = No unlimited data
T-Mobile and Sprint = Unlimited data

Good thing I have T-Mobile. Verizon is overpriced anyways.

I have unlimited data on Verizon (grandfathered)... do they not offer the privilege at an exorbitant price anymore?

and on a slightly unrelated note, look s like AT&T wants that T-Mo business.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/03/att-will-give-you-up-to-450-to-leave-t-mobile/
maybe you can get AT&T to carry over that unlimited plan since they seem so desperate right to ~~win~~ buy that business right now.

shingi_70 · « **Reply #868 on:** January 03, 2014, 09:42:32 PM »

Dude try to find a 2011 Nexus if you can.

Not related to Android that much but The Verge posted an article about what Web Os's future would have been like if HP wouldn't have killed it off after the first three devices were shuttered.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/2/5264580/the-lost-secrets-of-webos

A two new phones and a tablet device. The UI looks better than ios and Android and from a functionality perseptive it was going to take the best of ios/Android/Windows.

My home screen for the month

Oblivion · « **Reply #869 on:** January 03, 2014, 11:36:06 PM »

Dude get rid of your notifications.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #870 on:** January 05, 2014, 12:23:59 PM »

The thing I hate about stock Android is how you can't rearrange and delete home screens like you can on Samsung Galaxy devices. Galaxy devices also have a quick menu button which makes navigating apps much easier.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #871 on:** January 05, 2014, 12:29:49 PM »

Is the Nook worth buying? It has Google Play now, and it's extremely cheap (especially the 9" HD+), but the hardware is very outdated.

I was also looking at the new Kindle Fire HDX, but it's locked to Amazon's ecosystem. The hardware is amazing though.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #872 on:** January 05, 2014, 12:46:08 PM »

No, it's not. BTW, now that the Moto G is on Verizon for $99 (no contract), you can buy one and put it on Net 10 (CDMA through Verizon) and get unlimited everything for $50/month.

shingi_70 · « **Reply #873 on:** January 06, 2014, 12:27:42 AM »

So HTC finicals came in and the company is dying despite being number 2 in Android. Seems like Nokia dodged a bullet there.

Rumor is that Lenevo is going to step in and buy them.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #874 on:** January 06, 2014, 12:49:31 AM »

Is HTC really #2? I don't see that information anywhere, I used to always assume they were in the top few, but reports I saw always showed otherwise. I'm pretty sure LG is ahead of HTC as far as market share.

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