Post by: ruby_onix on March 06, 2004, 11:35:15 PM
The last thread was locked because it spun into an argument about sports games. So let's try to stay on topic this time.
Here are the numbers from the first thread, plus some new ones.
- January 2003 -
PS2: 443,334
XBox (Holiday Bundle): 154,604
XBox (System): 9,724
GCN (Jet): 26,741
GCN (Platinum): 20,735
GCN (Indigo): 14,283
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 15,204,853
XBox (Holiday Bundle): 1,709,679
XBox (System): 3,026,672
GCN (Jet): 1,487,732
GCN (Platinum): 321,352
GCN (Indigo): 1,181,624
- February 2003 -
PS2: 484,000 (+8% over January sales)
XBOX: 197,000 (+20%)
GCN: 164,000 (+103%)
GBA: 282,000 (+6%)
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 16,802,000
XBOX: 4,962,000
GCN: 3,828,000
GBA: 12,441,000
- March 2003 -
???
- April 2003 -
???
- May 2003 -
PS2: 288,127
Xbox: 123,614
GCN: 84,408
GBA: 402,662
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 17,735,608
XBox: 5,378,727
GCN: 4,179,083
GBA: 14,124,184
- June 2003 -
???
- July 2003 -
???
- August 2003 -
???
- September 2003 -
PS2: 334,000
Xbox: 172,000
GCN: 165,000
GBA: 410,000
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 19,139,000
Xbox: 6,002,000
GCN: 4,695,000
GBA: 15,909,000
Tie Ratios
PS2: 7.19
Xbox: 5.91
GCN: 5.79
GBA: 3.18
- October 2003 -
PS2: 300,000 [-10% over September sales]
Xbox: 176,000 [+3%]
GCN: 254,000 [+54%]
GBA: 401,000 [-2%]
Cumulative guess?
PS2: 19,439,000
XBox: 6,178,000
GCN: 4,949,000
GBA: 16,310,000
- November 2003 -
GCN - 1,325,108
PS2 - 1,123,167
Xbox - 775,897
GBA - 2,124,690
...or maybe:
PS2 832,000
GCN 748,800
Xbox 491,400
(the math looks to support the second set more)
Backwards cumulative guess?
PS2: 20,318,000
XBox: 6,711,000
GCN: 5,705,000
GBA: 17,689,000
- December 2003 -
PS2: 1,940,000
GCN: 1,160,000
XBox: 1,080,000
GBA-SP: 2,260,000
N-Gage: 15,000
Backwards cumulative guess?
PS2: 22,258,000
XBox: 7,791,000
GCN: 6,865,000
GBA: 19,949,000
- January 2004 -
PS2: 338,000
Xbox: 192,000
GCN: 131,000
GBA: 299,000
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2 - 22,596,000
XBox - 7,983,000
GCN - 6,996,000
GBA - 20,248,000
- February 2004 -
PS2: 363,000 [+7% over January sales]
Xbox: 204,000 [+6%]
GCN: 137,000 [+5%]
GBA: 353,000 [+18%]
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 22,958,000
Xbox: 8,187,000
GCN: 7,133,000
GBA: 20,601,000
Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.10
Xbox: 6.58
GCN: 6.09
GBA: 3.42
- March -
PS2: 294,437
Xbox: 198,445
GCN: 163,028
GBA: 496,614
- April -
PS2: 188,669
Xbox: 297,351
GCN: 96,050
GBA: 292,570
- May -
PS2: 253,454
Xbox: 216,997
GCN: 77,827
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 23,602,719
Xbox: 8,817,578
GCN: 7,464,696
Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.4
Xbox: 6.8
GCN: 6.4
- June -
PS2: 427,000
Xbox: 262,000
GCN: 109,000
GBA: 521,000
Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.43
Xbox: 6.88
GCN: 6.55
GBA: 3.60
- July -
PS2 - 290,000
XBOX - 245,000
GAMECUBE - 93,000
GBA - 400,000
or maybe...
PS2: 305,000
Xbox: 202,000
GCN: 93,000
GBA: 395,000
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 24,433,000
Xbox: 9,367,000
GCN: 7,672,000
GBA: 22,579,000
LTD Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.52
Xbox: 7.01
GCN: 6.68
GBA: 3.67
- August -
PS2: 211,690
Xbox: 216,911
GCN: 108,953
GBA: 312,568
- September -
PS2: 253,295
Xbox: 265,067
GCN: 114,789
GBA: 527,133
- October -
PS2: 289,000
Xbox: 217,000
GCN: 110,000
GBA: 464,000
- November -
PS2: 694,000
Xbox: 708,000
NGC: 350,000
GBA: 1,100,000
NDS: 479,000
- December -
???
Post by: ruby_onix on March 06, 2004, 11:38:24 PM
February 03:
Nintendo (sort of) follows Microsoft's lead by giving away a free game with their $149 GameCube.
Linkie
If you preorded Wind Waker, you'd get Ocarina of Time and the unreleased Master Quest as a preorder goodie.
Linkie
Linkie
Some stores were taking to selling the disks, and not even asking for a Wind Waker preorder...
March 03:
Sales info?
Linkie
April 03:
Price cut speculation:
Linkie
May 03:
Pre-E3 price cut speculation:
Linkie
E3 2003!
Linkie
Basically, Sony gave you the option of having a mere $20 price cut, or a free Network Adaptor when you buy a PS2. Microsoft followed with a $20 cut of their own. Nintendo responded by letting you choose to get the $50 GameBoy Player free instead of a game.
Nintendo missed their fiscal-year (ending March 31) targets.
Linkie
They only earned 67 billion yen...
August 03:
A quarterly report?
Linkie
Nintendo earned 11.5 billion yen, but only shipped 80,000 GameCubes in that entire quarter. Stores had more stock than they wanted. Nintendo's warehouses were full. So Nintendo shut down their GameCube factories. Until November.
September 03:
After their ineffective GB Player offer, Nintendo falls back to their "plan A" from E3. $99 GameCube. No extras. Takes effect Sept 25.
Linkie
October 03:
$99 is having an effect.
Linkie
Nintendo's first ever loss. Three billion yen in the red (for the fiscal half-year ending in September). Because of a 40 billion yen drop in the value of their sizable American investments, thanks to the yen/dollar currency exchange, and lower than expected GameCube sales (before the price cut).
Linkie
Good first week of October.
Linkie
November 03:
Nintendo's still happy.
Linkie
Zelda bonus disk 2 almost here.
Linkie
GameCube back in production.
Linkie
Mario Kart bonus disk came packed with first-printings of the game. Hope you preordered (or didn't miss out, despite preordering).
Linkie
October numbers.
Linkie
December 03:
Nintendo's #1 during the week of Thanksgiving.
Linkie
More positive Nintendo numbers.
Linkie
January 04:
GameCube still going to meet target sales?
Linkie
Nintendo points out that great end-of-year sales helped them beat the XBox for "all of 2003".
Linkie
It appears that Nintendo nearly sold out of units halfway through the month, allowing Microsoft to nearly match them in December, and Sony to ever-widen their unstoppable lead.
More numbers?
Linkie
Assorted Nintendo-centric 2003 figures.
Linkie
Nintendo not going to meet target sales after all?
Linkie
March 04:
Mainstream media finally notices, because Nintendo addresses, the GameCube shortage issue. Hopefully it's already resolved by now.
Linkie
Post by: Mario on March 15, 2004, 01:49:18 PM
Nintendo GameCube
1 GCN FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL 243,380
2 GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE 81,233
3 GCN SONIC HEROES 76,506
4 GCN BOND 007: EVERYTHING 42,264
5 GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 40,174
6 GCN MARIO PARTY 5 35,399
7 GCN NFL STREET 32,618
8 GCN LUIGI'S MANSION 31,057
9 GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 30,954
10 GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 27,317
11 GCN PAC-MAN PLAYER'S BND 20,612
12 GCN NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND 19,760
13 GCN YU-GI-OH! FALSEBOUND 18,310
14 GCN DRAGONBALL Z: BUDOKAI 17,480
15 GCN NAMCO MUSEUM 15,992
16 GCN SW:ROGUE SQUADRON III 15,266
Gameboy Advance
1 GBA METROID ZERO MISSION 151,807
2 GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 71,991
3 GBA YU-GI-OH! TRNMNT 2004 61,061
4 GBA POKEMON RUBY 54,016
5 GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE 50,472
6 GBA TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE 40,489
7 GBA SONIC BATTLE 38,275
8 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 33,866
9 GBA YU-GI-OH! SACRED CARD 30,665
10 GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 29,658
11 GBA SONIC ADVANCE 2 28,183
12 GBA CRASH BAND2:N-TRANCED 28,045
13 GBA NAMCO MUSEUM 27,592
14 GBA QUAD DESERT FURY 27,473
15 GBA SPONGEBOB: BATTLE 27,366
16 GBA CRASH BANDICOOT: HUGE 27,304
Overall
1 GCN FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL 243,380
2 PS2 NFL STREET 167,935
3 GBA METROID ZERO MISSION 151,807
4 PS2 NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND 120,155
5 PS2 BOND 007: EVERYTHING 115,944
6 PS2 JET LI: RISE TO HONOR 104,084
7 PS2 CHAMPS NORRATH:REALMS 101,684
8 XBX HALO 88,979
9 PS2 MAFIA 88,473
10 XBX BOND 007: EVERYTHING 88,038
11 PS2 SONIC HEROES 84,098
12 GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE 81,233
13 PS2 ONLINE PACK 80,512
14 GCN SONIC HEROES 76,506
15 GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 71,991
16 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2004 69,684
17 PS2 MX UNLEASHED 65,683
18 PS2 TRUE CRIME STREETS LA 65,472
19 XBX NFL STREET 61,618
20 GBA YU-GI-OH! TRNMNT 2004 61,061
Post by: Berto2K on March 15, 2004, 01:53:59 PM
(Funny that Halo is still #1 seller on xbox.)
Post by: Rob91883 on March 15, 2004, 02:18:43 PM
I wish I had friends to play FF:CC, but a lot of my friends aren't hardcore gamers. But I still hope it sells well, because I want a better game from Akitoshi Kawazu's Game Designers Studio.
Post by: AMac2002 on March 15, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
Not really. With no games coming out for Xbox in February, the people who buy Xbox's just tend to buy Halo with it as well. And with it now being $30, it's a pretty good deal.
I don't know how good baseball games sell, but next month it will probably be MVP Baseball leading the pack, since it's an EA game, and they tend to sell very well (and the game is supposed to be good).
Post by: Mario on March 15, 2004, 03:31:24 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on March 15, 2004, 04:20:43 PM
Post by: Mario on March 15, 2004, 04:34:01 PM
Post by: Pale on March 15, 2004, 05:21:18 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on March 16, 2004, 10:08:11 AM
And Splinter Cell: Pandora Tommorow.
Oh and here's the Hardware sales for Feb. 04.
February Hardware Sales
PS2: 363,000 [+7% over January sales]
Xbox: 204,000 [+6%]
GCN: 137,000 [+5%]
GBA: 353,000 [+18%]
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 22,958,000
Xbox: 8,187,000
GCN: 7,133,000
GBA: 20,601,000
Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.10
Xbox: 6.58
GCN: 6.09
GBA: 3.42
Post by: ruby_onix on March 16, 2004, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: Nemo on March 16, 2004, 07:26:16 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on March 17, 2004, 01:03:46 AM
It can tell you all sorts of things, like if a console only recently started outselling another one, it can highlight that, because people tend to buy games over a span of time, not all at once, so newer console owners usually have fewer games than the early-adopters.
Plus it can tell you a lot about profit. Like, lets assume that console makers get $5 per-game in royalties (I think it's more, but there are material costs to consider). And that the GameCube usually sells at a $10 loss (which it doesn't, but whatever). Then Nintendo needs an attach rate of "2" in order to break even. The rest is pure profit. But the XBox usually sells at a $50 loss (again, this is just made-up) on average. Then Microsoft would need to hit an attach rate of "10" just to stop losing money. Of course, this info would be much more useful if we knew some real profit/loss numbers to go with them (over the entire lifespan of the console), instead of just making them up.
Post by: mjbd on March 17, 2004, 03:13:57 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 01, 2004, 01:48:52 PM
Nothing about hardware or sales, just profits, but it seemed worth mentioning.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/04/01/news_6092686.html
Apparently they ended the year (which was filled with doom-and-gloom "first loss in history" hysteria for the first half) with 33 billion yen (US$317 million) profit on the year.
Last year they earned 68 billion yen (US$654 million).
Of course, last year PGC said they earned "¥67.3 billion ($572 million)", which should tell you something about exchange rates, and how it is that they're hurting Nintendo, by impacting the "giant money pile" they've been building up since the NES days.
I'll probably add a link about it to that second post in the thread, after PGC makes their story on it, for better consistency.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 01, 2004, 04:28:56 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 20, 2004, 01:11:17 PM
March Sales
All Major Platforms
1 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $23,275,788 473,559
2 NINJA GAIDEN $17,972,270 362,441
3 POKEMON COLOSSEUM $16,562,150 342,603
4 BOND 007: EVERYTHING $11,715,073 242,844
5 T. CLANCYS PANDORA $10,658,837 215,372
6 MX UNLEASHED $6,328,046 159,993
7 NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND $6,245,344 132,546
8 SONIC HEROES $6,278,915 131,241
9 THE SUFFERING $6,417,921 129,795
10 METAL GEAR:TWIN SNAKE $4,858,605 122,435
11 FINAL FANTASY XI W/HD $11,337,960 115,343
12 NAMCO MUSEUM $2,029,129 114,387
13 RESIDENT EVIL: OUTBRK $5,644,087 113,333
14 NFL STREET $5,332,338 112,848
15 JET LI: RISE TO HONOR $4,374,684 109,998
16 MAFIA $4,840,413 99,767
17 MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $2,668,832 90,418
18 METROID ZERO MISSION $2,535,471 86,543
19 SPONGEBOB: BATTLE $2,829,770 84,514
20 HALO $2,490,905 83,338
21 DRAKENGARD $3,230,136 82,160
22 SCOOBY-DOO: MYSTERY $2,702,511 77,015
23 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO $2,004,585 76,632
24 NBA LIVE 2004 $3,637,521 74,632
25 TIGER WOODS PGA 2004 $3,358,717 72,762
...and some hardware numbers of:
GBA $46,872,322 496,614
PS2 $53,860,294 294,437
XBX $32,337,661 198,445
GC $16,094,477 163,028
I'm sort of surprised that MGS:TTS didn't do better than that.
And seeing as how the Xbox has their own price cut in effect now, any post-Christmas advantage the GameCube had over the Xbox in America becasue of the pre-Christmas price drop has been completely negated by that stupid hardware shortage, if any post-Christmas advantage ever existed at all.
Edit: I should read what I write about staying on-topic...
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 20, 2004, 01:16:51 PM
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The Yen is strong and throbbing
And the Dollar is (or at least was) getting weaker- this leads to drops in profit forcasts despite sales forcasts remaining the same. People often incorrectly assume the two go up and down together regardless of any other factors.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on April 20, 2004, 02:33:30 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 20, 2004, 02:49:42 PM
Partly my fault, because I made this thread into a joke on April 1 myself. And Nintendorks' joke did match this thread's theme quite nicely.
Or at least, I hope it was a joke. It was pretty creepy...
Post by: Mario on May 17, 2004, 11:30:37 PM
Hardware:
GBA $28,203,318 292,570
NGC $9,465,022 96,050
PS2 $34,597,063 188,669
XBX $45,719,021 297,351
Software:
GBA
1 NAMCO MUSEUM $735,275 62,757
2 POKEMON RUBY $1,812,233 54,402
3 MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,596,560 53,235
4 POKEMON SAPPHIRE $1,721,624 51,576
5 PAC-MAN COLLECTION $593,834 50,448
6 SCOOBY-DOO 2:MONSTERS $1,224,280 42,549
7 METROID ZERO MISSION $1,238,107 41,483
8 QUAD DESERT FURY $442,096 38,391
9 YU-GI-OH! TRNMNT 2004 $1,312,668 37,605
10 MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $1,139,085 37,546
11 DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $772,550 37,105
12 FROGGER'S ADV: TEMPLE $426,645 35,428
13 TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $680,794 35,421
14 SPONGEBOB: BATTLE $919,676 32,258
15 PIRATES OF CARIBBEAN $541,539 31,758
GCN
1 POKEMON COLOSSEUM $7,644,942 155,639
2 HARVEST MOON:WONDRFUL $1,455,965 36,508
3 SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $1,066,077 35,924
4 MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,767,554 35,587
5 WARIOWARE INC: PARTY $1,036,336 35,063
6 SONIC HEROES $1,495,158 30,032
7 LUIGI'S MANSION $519,818 26,928
8 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO $484,800 25,529
9 METAL GEAR:TWIN SNAKE $964,817 24,299
10 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $1,100,355 22,125
11 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $446,451 21,825
12 FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL $1,062,730 21,531
13 SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $583,275 19,740
14 MARIO PARTY 5 $947,764 19,239
15 BOND 007: EVERYTHING $914,925 18,794
PS2
1 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $19,331,310 389,372
2 NBA BALLERS $9,425,634 236,080
3 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $7,927,068 159,098
4 RESIDENT EVIL: OUTBRK $7,461,225 149,837
5 HITMAN: CONTRACTS $4,085,442 81,920
6 MLB 2005 $2,261,671 57,068
7 MX UNLEASHED $2,190,389 55,193
8 NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND $2,314,180 46,900
9 ONIMUSHA 3: DEMON $2,286,179 45,903
10 BOND 007: EVERYTHING $2,038,644 41,699
11 BACKYARD BASEBALL $1,144,530 39,667
12 CORVETTE $371,743 36,971
13 ALL STAR BASEBALL2005 $1,414,606 35,416
14 FINAL FANTASY XI W/HD $3,358,311 34,180
15 NBA STREET VOL 2 $677,569 33,565
XBX
1 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $8,758,186 176,313
2 T. CLANCYS PANDORA $6,559,942 133,608
3 NBA BALLERS $3,897,392 97,685
4 HALO $2,313,000 86,259
5 HITMAN: CONTRACTS $3,306,254 66,431
6 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $2,819,908 56,669
7 NINJA GAIDEN $2,466,668 49,607
8 ESPN MLB BASEBALL $1,520,993 38,227
9 YU-GI-OH! DAWN DESTNY $1,220,592 30,595
10 SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC $759,837 26,074
11 PROJECT GOTHAM 2 $757,213 26,052
12 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO $457,589 24,196
13 GRAND THEFT AUTO PACK $1,161,349 24,179
14 NBA STREET VOL 2 $453,464 23,587
15 TOCA RACE DRIVER 2 $687,151 22,341
Top 15 Across All Platforms:
1 PS2 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $19,331,310 389,372
2 PS2 NBA BALLERS $9,425,634 236,080
3 XBX FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $8,758,186 176,313
4 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $7,927,068 159,098
5 GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM $7,644,942 155,639
6 PS2 RESIDENT EVIL: OUTBRK $7,461,225 149,837
7 XBX T. CLANCYS PANDORA $6,559,942 133,608
8 XBX NBA BALLERS $3,897,392 97,685
9 XBX HALO $2,313,000 86,259
10 PS2 HITMAN: CONTRACTS $4,085,442 81,920
11 XBX HITMAN: CONTRACTS $3,306,254 66,431
12 GBA NAMCO MUSEUM $735,275 62,757
13 PS2 MLB 2005 $2,261,671 57,068
14 XBX MVP BASEBALL 2004 $2,819,908 56,669
15 PS2 MX UNLEASHED $2,190,389 55,193
OUCH.
Twin Snakes = bomb. Wario Ware = massive bomb. Xbox pricedrop = huge success.
Where's the momentum now Reggie? HUH?
Post by: nolimit19 on May 18, 2004, 05:05:58 AM
halo = most over rated game of all time
Post by: The Omen on May 18, 2004, 05:27:38 AM
Post by: bubba23 on May 18, 2004, 05:44:27 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 18, 2004, 07:14:13 AM
Warioware deserved to sell like sh!t since it was a glorified port of the GBA game. If they can't be bothered to make a new single player mode I can't be bothered to buy it.
And how the hell did Namco Museum top the GBA sales charts? Wasn't that a LAUNCH title?! Looking at those sales I've determined that the GBA userbase is made up of two types of people: Nintendo fans and f*cking morons. All the non-Nintendo GBA games in that list are the absolute sh!ts.
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 18, 2004, 08:51:02 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2004, 10:22:23 AM
ONCE.
--UPON A TIME NINTENDO GIVES ANOTHER GOOD GAME/DEVELOPER THE SHAFT.
Post by: joeamis on May 18, 2004, 10:49:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
I still dont understand why Nintendo did not give a single add for MGS... ITs like they wanted it to disapear or something
Yea like they were upset with SK for becoming a 3rd party...
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 18, 2004, 10:50:06 AM
Anyways X-box beat Sony this month thats odd
Post by: Ian Sane on May 18, 2004, 11:30:27 AM
So that's the reasoning for this? Well I can think of two obvious posibilities:
1. Nintendo's userbase doesn't buy 'M' rated games. Though Resident Evil sold well and it's rated 'M'. Even if the userbase is mostly kids, kids LOVE 'M' rated games. They think they're cool. These games seem to have been missed by adult gamers as well. I've encountered tons of older Cube owners that don't own ED merely because they didn't know anything about it.
2. Nintendo sucks at marketing mature titles. This one seems pretty likely and it's triggered a conspiracy theory of sorts in my mind.
What if Nintendo, consciencely or unconsciencely, deliberately tries to make their mature games fail to prove a point? Sounds ridiculous I know but Nintendo has been very resistant to the changes made in the industry that have made adults the more lucrative market. They don't really seem to like the idea of making mature games but there's a lot of pressure on them to do so. They may want their mature efforts to fail so they have an excuse not to make them anymore. When fans ask for more mature games Nintendo can say "Sorry. We made those types of games and you didn't buy them." and then they never have to make any again.
I know the idea is really out there and only a group of complete morons would intentionally sabotage their own product and as a result lose money because of a stubborn refusal to change. I don't really believe it myself but Nintendo's infamous stubborn nature makes it a good conspiracy theory. It's like I don't think it's real but if it was it wouldn't be that surprising.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2004, 11:42:07 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 18, 2004, 11:49:17 AM
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1. Nintendo's userbase doesn't buy 'M' rated games.
No.
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2. Nintendo sucks at marketing mature titles.
Yes. I don't know what led you to believe your first reason was anywhere near the truth, but your second one is the real culprit- Nintendo often refuses to acknowledge M rated games exist- Eternal Darkness could have sold extraordinarily if people had just known about it. I think Nintendo's gotten too used to their franchises selling on name alone since names like Mario and Zelda are huge. Hopefully their new VP of sales and marketing will change Nintendo in this way.
Also, Perfect Dark sold at least a million copies, I believe, which is not bad by any standards. In addition, both Resident Evil Remake and Resident Evil: 0 sold over a million copies worldwide. That means, and I could be wrong, the Gamecube has twice as many M rated games go platinum as the XBox.
Post by: ShyGuy on May 18, 2004, 12:05:44 PM
BTW, does anyone know the sales figures on the Xbox port of Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance sold? Just to give some numbers to compare with.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 18, 2004, 01:10:45 PM
Post by: CHEN on May 18, 2004, 02:04:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I've noticed a scary trend. Any Nintendo game rated 'M' sells poorly and often is poorly advertised. Conker's Bad Day Fur, Eternal Darkness, and now MGS (although it was a Konami game Nintendo was directly involved and obviously would have benefited from good sales) all fall into that category. Perfect Dark also was rated 'M' and sold poorly though I thought it was promoted very well.
So that's the reasoning for this? Well I can think of two obvious posibilities:
1. Nintendo's userbase doesn't buy 'M' rated games. Though Resident Evil sold well and it's rated 'M'. Even if the userbase is mostly kids, kids LOVE 'M' rated games. They think they're cool. These games seem to have been missed by adult gamers as well. I've encountered tons of older Cube owners that don't own ED merely because they didn't know anything about it.
Way to stereotype, buddy.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
What if Nintendo, consciencely or unconsciencely, deliberately tries to make their mature games fail to prove a point? Sounds ridiculous I know but Nintendo has been very resistant to the changes made in the industry that have made adults the more lucrative market. They don't really seem to like the idea of making mature games but there's a lot of pressure on them to do so. They may want their mature efforts to fail so they have an excuse not to make them anymore. When fans ask for more mature games Nintendo can say "Sorry. We made those types of games and you didn't buy them." and then they never have to make any again.
Yeah, that's why they're developing the new Legend of Zelda to fail, right?
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I know the idea is really out there and only a group of complete morons would intentionally sabotage their own product and as a result lose money because of a stubborn refusal to change. I don't really believe it myself but Nintendo's infamous stubborn nature makes it a good conspiracy theory. It's like I don't think it's real but if it was it wouldn't be that surprising.
I never did understand that 'Nintendo is stubborn and needs to wake up' argument. I actually wanted to write more about this matter, but I'm tired and seriously need some sleep. Anyhoo, good night.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 18, 2004, 02:25:53 PM
Of course not. My theory was just a scary "what if" scenario I thought of by letting my paranoia run wild. It's obviously not to be taken seriously. Though technically this new Zelda doesn't apply as it's very likely not going to be rated 'M'.
Post by: The Omen on May 18, 2004, 05:58:40 PM
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In addition, both Resident Evil Remake and Resident Evil: 0 sold over a million copies worldwide. That means, and I could be wrong, the Gamecube has twice as many M rated games go platinum as the XBox.
That could very well be, Mouse. But its almost like "If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound?" Nobody will notice any subpar sales for the Xbox, even the M rated games which are supposedly the systems strong point. Nintendo is under such a microscope that every little failing, or lack of sales record success, gets blown way up. But RE4 will sell millions...thats an Omen assurance.
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 18, 2004, 06:29:28 PM
Darc Requiem
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 18, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
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That could very well be, Mouse. But its almost like "If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound?" Nobody will notice any subpar sales for the Xbox, even the M rated games which are supposedly the systems strong point. Nintendo is under such a microscope that every little failing, or lack of sales record success, gets blown way up. But RE4 will sell millions...thats an Omen assurance.
Unfortunately you're right- Nintendo is the company with the most history in the industry right now, so every mistake they make is magnified a thousand times, while other companies' mistakes go relatively unnoticed.
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 18, 2004, 06:38:23 PM
Nintendo provides advertisement to third parties... FF Chrystal Chronicles. MVP Baseball, Prince of Persia... Nintendo should have provided adverstisment to this game, because it could have benefited Nintendo..... Its no big loss for Konami... Btw. Konami doesnt advertisme much... not even on the PS2...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2004, 06:41:47 PM
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Nintendo needs to "wake up" in order to be in that OVERWHELMINGLY SUCCESSFUL #1 console position. Sure, GameCube is successful, but not OVERWHELMINGLY SUCCESSFUL.
It still seems to be the odd-man-out, judging by those sales stats. The fact that its only presence on the multiplatform chart is via Pokemon bothers me.
I ate ASPARAGUS.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 18, 2004, 07:17:45 PM
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Even if the userbase is mostly kids, kids LOVE 'M' rated games.
The problem is, that as far as I can tell, Nintendo´s fans (in relation to Sony and MS) tend to be a bit older, usually late-teens or adults, and I think the biggest markets for specifically ´M´ games are early and mid teenagers.
I remember an uncle of mine telling me about how he got nightmares after shooting people in Goldereye - older people tend to have a greater sense empathy, and pretending to kill people just doesn´t do it for them. Some ´M´ rated games like Resident Evil sell well because they are not necessarily focused on combat, but rather on a scary atmosphere instead.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 18, 2004, 08:56:46 PM
Oh, and Pokemon Colosseum DID outsell both Ninja Gaiden and MGSTTS. I don't know if NG and PC were out before those charts above, but in the EU/UK charts it clearly did.
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 19, 2004, 10:32:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
I lay the blame squarely on Konami's shoulder's. True Nintendo is lacking when it comes to the marketing of "mature" games, but the fact of the matter is this: Nintendo provided the development team for Twin Snakes, funded the games development. All Konmai did was supervise the frickin cut scenes. Adverstising the game is on them.
Nintendo provides advertisement to third parties... FF Chrystal Chronicles. MVP Baseball, Prince of Persia... Nintendo should have provided adverstisment to this game, because it could have benefited Nintendo..... Its no big loss for Konami... Btw. Konami doesnt advertisme much... not even on the PS2...
Okay, did you not read my post? Nintendo didn't not develop any of those titles. FF:CC was actually published by Nintendo so they advertised it so they could recoupe some on their investment. Plus they were really trying to push connectivity...but thats another post. Outside of FF:CC Nintendo didn't fund the dev. cost of any of the other titles. Nintendo paid for MGS:TT they provided the dev. team and funded its development. This means Nintendo saw too it that there was no way Konami could lose money on MGS:TT. Its KONAMI's job to capitalize on the situation and to advertise the game. If Konami would have developed the game I'd agree with you but think about what you are saying. I have to give Konami of Japan credit...at least they advertised the game and tried to ensure its success. Konami of America just didn't care.
Are you saying that Nintendo should pay a 3rd parties development cost, and pay the advertising. While the 3rd party pulls in all the cash from publishing duties? Is that what you saying. Thats nonsense. If thats the case they a better off just developing their own games and resigning themselves to a niche market. Its one thing to cut deals with 3rd parties, its another thing to foot the complete bill for their titles. I mean if Nintendo is going to have to do that. The should just open their war chest up, by a half dozen of the top third party developers and make them 2nd party developers. I mean at least with 2nd party developers you are supposed to fund development, publish, and advertise their titles.
Darc Requiem
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 19, 2004, 05:40:01 PM
Plus really, How many Konami commercials have you seen for any game?
Post by: Mario on May 19, 2004, 05:40:48 PM
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I have to give Konami of Japan credit...at least they advertised the game and tried to ensure its success. Konami of America just didn't care.
Strange, since MGS:TTS bombed harder in Japan than it did in the US.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 19, 2004, 05:50:11 PM
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Im saying for certain cases, Nintendo should actually suck up the bill and pay for advertisment. Sony does it. They funded their own Prince of Persia commericals. MGS was a game that could push Gamecube consoles, it only benefits them. Not Konami
Plus really, How many Konami commercials have you seen for any game?
You're skipping the point, though. It was Konami's responsibility to advertise the game. They didn't. End of discussion.
Post by: WesDawg on May 19, 2004, 08:02:50 PM
Anyways, I think the most interesting thing in those sales figures is looking at the top game sellers. Fight Night 2004 (which I've never heard of) and NBA Ballers (another Sports game I've never heard of) dominate up there. A couple of Baseball games. The ever present Halo (probably driven up a bit by the XBox price drop). It seems like if Nintendo really wants to peak out the sales charts they're best of to sell themselves as a Sports game company, something they weren't even back in the NES days I think.
Then theres a few franchises: Pokemon, RE, Hitman, and Splinter Cell. Seems like MGS could easily have been in that group. I don't really blame lack of advertising on that though. I don't know why they sold, but I ain't seen to many ads for those games. I'm guessing its word of mouth that sold 'em more than anything. I don't think advertising drives sales in this industry. Actually, I take that back, Ad's do work, but not TV Ads. Demo disks at stores, and big standup posters drive hype more than anything. At least that's how I've always felt. Cool posters at every EB across the country could have upped MGS:TT's sales I bet. A clever/slightly ambiguous magazine ad gets me way more excited than a fast paced TV commercial. Maybe I'm just weird though.
Post by: jasonditz on May 19, 2004, 08:07:11 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 19, 2004, 09:28:40 PM
It's becauseit's the exact same single player as the GBA game. We all assumed Nintendo was making a brand new game and instead they gave us a port and to make it worse they never stated that it was a port.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 20, 2004, 03:24:44 AM
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It's becauseit's the exact same single player as the GBA game. We all assumed Nintendo was making a brand new game and instead they gave us a port and to make it worse they never stated that it was a port.
The single player was added because they pretty much had to- the multiplayer is the real meat of the game and it's completely different. You've played it, right Ian?
Post by: Ian Sane on May 20, 2004, 07:06:20 AM
Yeah I know. I just assumed they would have made new microgames for the single player mode. The Nintendo of ten years ago would never have done a lazy cut 'n' paste job with the single player.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 20, 2004, 11:27:22 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 20, 2004, 11:42:58 AM
By that logic than A Link to the Past for the GBA is new game. All I'm saying is that it should be 100% new microgames for both single player and multiplayer. That's all.
If Metroid Prime 2 turned out to be the same as Metroid Prime 1 except for the multiplayer would you consider that acceptable?
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 20, 2004, 12:02:04 PM
Have you played WarioWare's multiplayer?
Post by: Ian Sane on May 20, 2004, 12:16:05 PM
Not cheated per say but disappointed. I would consider that lazy and it would irritate me in the same way Nintendo's constant rehashing of the same multiplayer in all of their GBA Mario games does.
To me though a unique single player is more important. Even if a game is designed more for multiplayer there's always going to be more time spend playing alone than playing with friends. So thus if multiplayer is all that's new I wouldn't consider the game worth purchasing. If you own the GBA game and don't constantly have friends over Warioware GC is a waste of money. And that right there explains why the Cube game didn't sell as well.
I actually haven't played the GC version because I don't own it and I just explained why I didn't buy it. Remember this topic is about why it didn't sell that well not whether or not it's any good.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 20, 2004, 12:23:13 PM
And it didn't sell well because of several reasons- no advertising, various misconceptions (tied in to lack of advertising), and it's a niche game. Regardless of how well it sold, play the game- if you liked WarioWare on the GBA at all you'll love it. Besides, you're not really in a position to be downplaying a game you haven't played at all.
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 20, 2004, 02:55:01 PM
It wasnt Konamis responsibility. It was Nintendos. Does Konami care if it bombs? No. Should Nintendo. Yes.
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 20, 2004, 03:17:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
It was Konami's responsibility to advertise the game. They didn't. End of discussion.
It wasnt Konamis responsibility. It was Nintendos. Does Konami care if it bombs? No. Should Nintendo. Yes.
You know what Cell, I give up. Yeah its Nintendo's fault. Nintendo should provide the development team, fund, adverstise all 3rd party products. I mean its dawned on me. It makes perfect sense. That way Nintendo can run themselves out of business hemorraghing millions while the 3rd parties make money for doing nothing. Yeah brilliant, I mean its working so well for Microsoft. I mean they are just as far behind Sony as Nintendo but its still the best way. Okay enough with the sarcasm, I'm sorry but your standpoint is ridiculous.
Darc Requiem
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 20, 2004, 03:32:52 PM
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It wasnt Konamis responsibility. It was Nintendos. Does Konami care if it bombs? No. Should Nintendo. Yes.
What flawed logic! Nintendo is hurt by EVERY 3rd party game that bombs on the Gamecube- does that mean Nintendo should advertise ALL of them? It's the publisher's duty to advertise a game, and Konami published Twin Snakes, not Nintendo.
Post by: odifiend on May 20, 2004, 04:58:28 PM
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 20, 2004, 05:30:26 PM
Its also a Gamecube, Exclusive, a reason for people to purchase Nintendos system. Nintendo had more to loose but hey, its a Mature Title, why advertise it? Nintendo gives EA Advertising, when EA is the biggest Third Party, and doesnt need the advertising.
Sometimes i do think Nintendo purposely hurts itself by forcing the kiddy image
Post by: KDR_11k on May 20, 2004, 08:02:15 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 20, 2004, 11:23:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Perfect Cell
What flawed logic! Nintendo is hurt by EVERY 3rd party game that bombs on the Gamecube- does that mean Nintendo should advertise ALL of them? It's the publisher's duty to advertise a game, and Konami published Twin Snakes, not Nintendo.
Its also a Gamecube, Exclusive, a reason for people to purchase Nintendos system. Nintendo had more to loose but hey, its a Mature Title, why advertise it? Nintendo gives EA Advertising, when EA is the biggest Third Party, and doesnt need the advertising.
Sometimes i do think Nintendo purposely hurts itself by forcing the kiddy image
What does EA has to do with Twin Snakes. EA actually devotes its own money and development houses to its GC titles. I could have sworn in a previous post I said and I'll quote myself "If Konami had developed the game themselves I'd agree with you." Since EA is the largest developer of sports games and gives the Gamecube its full support of course Nintendo is willing to chip in on the advertising. Konami has done nothing at all for GC. Nintendo bent over backwards to work around Konami and Kojima's schedule and all they had to do is advertise the damned game.
This Twin Snakes....I love the game but its PS1 game. I mean the graphics are improved, there a few MGS2 gameplay additions but its MGS1. I could sorta see your point of view if this was MGS3 exclusive to Gamecube but it isn't. This is an enjoyable rethread of a game most gamers have already played. This isn't a game like a Final Fantasy 12 or even an exclusive GTA game that will get PS2 owners and casual gamers everywhere to run out and pick up a Cube.
Darc Requiem
Post by: Ymeegod on May 22, 2004, 03:57:12 AM
And someone said ads don't cost much? LOL, it only costs $18, 000 a pop for a 30-second ad during a primetime-tv show ;0 (that's a rough figure since it varies).
Secondly, why would Konami care? Like alot of people saying, but I make it clear.
Nintendo went out of it's way to get MG on the GC because of it's selling power just like it did with Final Fantasy, neither square-enix nor Konami give a rats ass about a game they didn't fund to begin with--to them it's free money so why waste it on ads.
Konami basically leased out it's name just like Nintendo did with the Zelda series back in the day.
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Post by: Mario on May 22, 2004, 04:03:27 AM
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Look at Capcom's sales with VJ and it's multi-million dollar ad budget.
Yeah, people actually bought the game, over 100,000 of them. You're insane if you think that VJ would have sold that well without advertising, and it was hardly a "multi-million dollar" ad budget, they had a few commercials for it, that's it, the end.
Post by: Ymeegod on May 22, 2004, 04:52:09 AM
LOL-- 100K is a joke though, given the rating.
Two, Capcom stated the pricing for marketing in the US. Three weeks of ads isn't cheap. Hell Nintendo spent 100 Million for 8 weeks (Nov/DEC) push.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 22, 2004, 08:01:56 AM
Post by: nolimit19 on May 25, 2004, 04:49:17 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 25, 2004, 07:18:00 AM
Of course Konami has an interest too, and I think some of the responsibility lies with Konami, because it probably could have made a lot more money from the deal if it had spent some cash on advertising. I think the game's sales could easily be near half a million units with proper marketing.
Anyway, I don't think placing blame now does any good. If Nintendo does deals like this in the future, I think it should consider putting a marketing plan in place from the start that requires the third party to show a certain amount of support for the game in terms of advertising dollars, and Nintendo could agree to match whatever the third party spends. I think it's the responsibility of both parties to make the game sell. Nintendo wants it to drive hardware sales and show people the kinds of games the system is capable of, and the third parties (should) want to make money from the game.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 25, 2004, 08:51:59 AM
They sure have. I saw quite a lot of commercials for MGS2 for the PS2 (all giving the impression that you play as Snake the whole time
) and when MGS2 came out for the Xbox I saw an ad for it practically every day. Maybe Sony and MS had something to do with those ads but the point is those games had ads everywhere and Twin Snakes had virtually none.
Post by: BigHit30 on May 25, 2004, 11:21:10 AM
Post by: joeamis on May 25, 2004, 11:31:27 AM
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 25, 2004, 08:43:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"has konami advertised for past metal gear games???"
They sure have. I saw quite a lot of commercials for MGS2 for the PS2 (all giving the impression that you play as Snake the whole time
Thank you Ian. Thats all that had to be said. I've harped on it before in this thread. Hell I'll do it again. Konami was basically handed a completed game free of charge. All they had to do with was publish and advertise it. I had completely forgotten about the Substance ads...they were quite funny. Anyway the point is if they can advertise Substance on X-box, they should have done the same for Twin Snakes. Those Substance ads were on constantly at least for a few weeks.
Darc Requiem
Post by: ruby_onix on June 22, 2004, 07:56:25 PM
From the Gaming-Age forums (which appear to have deleted my account for no apparent reason, after it took me a freaking month to sign up, but I can still read the forums somehow...).
No GBA numbers this month (due to that lame "but, it's not a console" garbage), but there's some Dreamcast stuff tossed in for scale.
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NPD #'s
May Console Sales
PS2 - 253,454
Xbox - 216,997
GC - 77,827
All Console Sales Since launch of Console
PS2 - 23,602,719
Xbox - 8,817,578
GC - 7,464,696
DC - 4,069,953
All Software Sales Since launch of Console
PS2 - 198,720,389
Xbox - 60,322,780
GC - 47,745,796
DC - 27,250,502
Attach Rate Since launch of Console
PS2 - 8.4
Xbox - 6.8
DC - 6.7
GC - 6.4
May Software Sales
PS2 - 3,453,522
Xbox - 1,648,102
GC - 1,106,517
And there were also these software numbers (which do include the GBA).
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PS2 RED DEAD REVOLVER $6,500,786 135,259
PS2 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $5,219,379 107,742
PS2 NBA BALLERS $4,382,179 114,523
PS2 SHREK 2 $4,366,418 87,729
PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $4,349,614 90,340
PS2 TRANSFORMERS $4,305,023 86,846
PS2 SYPHON FILTER: OMEGA $3,786,355 76,904
PS2 ONIMUSHA 3: DEMON $3,434,012 69,135
PS2 SAMURAI WARRIORS $3,258,318 65,471
PS2 HITMAN: CONTRACTS $3,032,286 60,795
XBX RED DEAD REVOLVER $4,269,550 86,887
XBX FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $2,314,411 47,289
XBX T. CLANCYS PANDORA $2,077,493 42,700
XBX HALO $1,831,614 62,572
XBX RALLISPORT CHALLENGE2 $1,720,862 34,910
XBX HITMAN: CONTRACTS $1,682,831 33,770
XBX NBA BALLERS $1,651,458 42,848
XBX VAN HELSING $1,594,113 32,720
XBX MVP BASEBALL 2004 $1,590,718 32,723
XBX SHREK 2 $1,497,357 30,107
GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM $2,699,522 56,692
GCN SHREK 2 $2,691,449 54,099
GCN CUSTOM ROBO $1,889,476 47,598
GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,315,605 26,582
GCN HARVEST MOON:WONDRFUL $1,107,039 27,812
GCN SONIC HEROES $895,927 17,968
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $837,854 28,192
GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $807,821 41,144
GCN MVP BASEBALL 2004 $797,860 16,465
GCN MARIO PARTY 5 $710,399 14,326
GBA SHREK 2 $2,107,945 71,163
GBA POKEMON RUBY $1,393,931 42,955
GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,341,584 45,090
GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $1,297,909 45,399
GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE $1,244,601 37,422
GBA YU-GI-OH! TRNMNT 2004 $1,053,870 31,485
GBA METROID ZERO MISSION $938,681 31,619
GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $875,600 28,586
GBA SONIC BATTLE $711,934 23,962
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $655,996 32,788
Edit: Worldwide numbers.
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GC:
Japan: 3.7 million
NA: 8.3 million
Europe: 2.6 million
Australia: 125,000
Total: 14.725 million (present)
Xbox:
Japan: 450,000
NA: 9.61 million
Europe: 3.6 million
Korea: 80,000
Australia: 450,000
Total: 14.19 million (present)
And some more semi-random numbers.
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May Attach Rate
GC - 14.22
PS2 - 13.62
Xbox - 7.59
April Console Sales
Xbox - 297,351
PS2 - 188,669
GC - 96,050
April Software Sales
PS2 - 4,211,985
Xbox - 2,172,469
GC - 1,320,509
April Attach Rate
PS2 - 22.32
GC - 13.75
Xbox - 7.31
First 31 Months of Consoles Life - Console Sales
PS2 - 17,464,323
N64 - Not Yet Compiled
Xbox - 8,817,578
PS - Not Yet Compiled
GC - 7,464,696
DC - 4,069,417
First 31 Months of Consoles Life - Software Sales
PS2 - 116,502,582
Xbox - 60,322,780
N64 - Not Yet Compiled
GC - 47,745,796
PS - Not Yet Compiled
DC - 26,249,943
First 31 Months of Consoles Life - Attach Rate
Xbox - 6.8
PS2 - 6.7
DC - 6.5
GC - 6.4
PS - Not Yet Compiled
N64 - Not Yet Compiled
First 30 Months of Consoles Life - Console Sales
PS2 - 17,199,692
N64 - 10,980,990
Xbox - 8,600,581
PS - 8,419,373
GC - 7,386,869
DC - 4,069,265
First 30 Months of Consoles Life - Software Sales
PS2 - 111,986,907
Xbox - 58,674,678
N64 - 50,660,895
GC - 46,639,279
PS - 44,150,943
DC - 25,904,009
First 30 Months of Consoles Life - Attach Rate
Xbox - 6.8
PS2 - 6.5
DC - 6.4
GC - 6.3
PS - 5.2
N64 - 4.6
Edit2: Specific Nintendo-published numbers.
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NINTENDO OF AMERICA
GBA ADVANCE WARS $2,036 154
GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $219,477 10923
GBA DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST $8,868 505
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $655,996 32788
GBA F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY $7,372 666
GBA FINAL FANTASY TACTICS $510,293 15192
GBA FIRE EMBLEM $498,861 15819
GBA GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 $11,899 424
GBA GOLDEN SUN $4,799 329
GBA GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE $202,383 10112
GBA HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK $29,342 1049
GBA KIRBY: NIGHTMARE $463,289 14916
GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $875,600 28586
GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,341,584 45090
GBA MARIO KART: CIRCUIT $470,446 16506
GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $1,297,909 45399
GBA METROID FUSION $149,107 4724
GBA METROID ZERO MISSION $938,681 31619
GBA POKEMON PINBALL: R&S $242,327 8329
GBA POKEMON RUBY $1,393,931 42955
GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE $1,244,601 37422
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE $189,732 6300
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 $591,799 18909
GBA SWORD OF MANA $247,828 8667
GBA WARIO LAND 4 $2,434 127
GBA WARIOWARE INC: MEGA $139,719 5451
GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 $313,394 10039
GBA ZELDA: LINK TO PAST $568,198 18618
GCN 1080 AVALANCHE $77,117 1802
GCN ANIMAL CROSSING $355,259 11801
GCN CUSTOM ROBO $1,889,476 47598
GCN DISNEY MAGICAL MIRROR $24,508 885
GCN ETERNAL DARKNESS $25,915 1224
GCN F-ZERO GX $302,128 16014
GCN FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL $605,853 12438
GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE $237,109 4963
GCN LUIGI'S MANSION $428,984 21571
GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL $357,505 12091
GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,315,605 26582
GCN MARIO PARTY 4 $85,777 1973
GCN MARIO PARTY 5 $710,399 14326
GCN METROID PRIME $335,154 17074
GCN NBA COURTSIDE 2002 $14,278 935
GCN PIKMIN $64,921 3254
GCN POKEMON CHANNEL $86,900 3145
GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM $2,699,522 56692
GCN PREVIEW DISC $6,990 731
GCN STAR FOX ADVENTURES $163,129 7954
GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $424,798 14364
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $837,854 28192
GCN WARIO WORLD $137,019 4931
GCN WARIOWARE INC: PARTY $417,243 14003
GCN WAVE RACE: BLUE STORM $10,646 560
GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER $375,619 7599
Post by: Shift Key on June 23, 2004, 02:53:40 AM
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Australia: 125,000
Woo! I would have guessed about 10 consoles in Australia ^______^ Quite a sad number too
Post by: nolimit19 on June 23, 2004, 05:49:21 AM
Post by: Berny on June 23, 2004, 06:33:34 AM
Yeah, that's pretty sad. But Jesus, Ruby. That has to be the LONGEST post I've ever seen.
Post by: Syl on June 23, 2004, 08:49:54 AM
GBA ADVANCE WARS $2,036 154
Advance wars, obviously.
Made 2,036,000
sold 154,000
(I really doubt it made 2,000 and only sold 154 copies)
but, then....
GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $219,477 10923
Theres no way that made 219 million
and sold 10,923,000
(I don't think any games sold 10 million)
I'm really confused by those numbers
Post by: FFantasyFX on June 23, 2004, 09:44:34 AM
The Nintendo-published numbers are only for the month of May. The exact number of units, the exact number of dollars generated for the month.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 23, 2004, 09:44:55 AM
Then compare them to MKDD's numbers, and you'll see they make sense for a 1 month sales period.
We all know Double Dash hit over a million a while ago.
Post by: Chode2234 on June 23, 2004, 10:07:52 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on June 23, 2004, 11:50:33 AM
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So where is the good news?
May was E3, so it was the first half-month of the PS2's price drop, plus it was the second month of the XBox's pre-E3 price drop.
That's not a "good news" situation for the Cube to be in (the Cube kicked in their price cut early, but it's a shame that all they got out of it was "staying even" for a while). The good news is that the Cube didn't get COMPLETELY pounded.
Assorted smaller "good news" items are buried in the mass of numbers, depending on where you want to look. For example, I think it's great that Sword of Mana can still sell 8,600 copies in a single month. Even better is that Fire Emblem sold 15,000, barely edging out Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (which is good to see still selling too). It's rather amusing to see "Zelda: Link to the Past: Four Swords" beating them all with 18,000, just a few short weeks before the glorious GameCube version of Four Swords hits the shelves. I wouldn't have expected that.
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But Jesus, Ruby. That has to be the LONGEST post I've ever seen.
You should see the GameInformer boards. They seem to usually do a by-the-publisher list of any publisher you can think of.
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SEGA OF AMERICA
GBA CHU CHU ROCKET $676 53
GBA SEGA RALLY CHAMPNSHIP $839 54
GCN BEACH SPIKERS $3,048 139
GCN BILLY HATCHER $87,059 4000
GCN HOME RUN KING $7,374 453
GCN NBA 2K2 $5,335 324
GCN NBA 2K3 $3,237 230
GCN NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 $303 8
GCN NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 $3,673 263
GCN NFL 2K3 $3,809 347
GCN NHL 2K3 $2,979 164
GCN PHANTASY STAR I & II $25,652 519
GCN PHANTASY STAR: CARD $115,045 2312
GCN SAMURAI JACK: SHADOW $55,376 1386
GCN SKIES OF ARCADIA LGND $136,065 5353
GCN SOCCER SLAM $7,531 378
GCN SONIC ADVENTURE 2 $249,727 8367
GCN SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT $161,042 4037
GCN SONIC HEROES $895,927 17968
GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $807,821 41144
GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL $190,148 9569
GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 $30,825 1068
GCN VIRTUA STRIKER 2002 $2,227 98
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CAPCOM USA
GBA BREATH OF FIRE $910 34
GBA BREATH OF FIRE II $4,387 229
GBA DISNEY MAGICAL QUEST2 $36,948 1846
GBA FINAL FIGHT ONE $10,134 497
GBA MEGA MAN & BASS $70,453 3517
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE CHIP $408,588 13652
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE NTWK2 $96,040 3815
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE NTWRK $9,984 383
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE3 BLUE $433,259 30393
GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE3 WHT $364,934 25296
GBA MEGA MAN ZERO $13,674 549
GBA MEGA MAN ZERO 2 $188,860 9395
GBA ONIMUSHA TACTICS $62,373 3104
GBA STREET FIGHTER ALPHA3 $40,114 2078
GBA SUPER GHOULS'N GHOST $17,553 883
GBA SUPER PUZZLE FGHTR II $25,167 849
GBA SUPER ST FIGHTER II $2,263 69
GCN AUTO MODELLISTA $13,160 328
GCN CAPCOM VS SNK 2: EO $2,276 141
GCN DISNEYS HIDE & SNEAK $21,140 530
GCN GOTCHA FORCE $9,598 241
GCN MEGA MAN NETWORK TRAN $72,320 2773
GCN P.N. 03 $26,590 1275
GCN RESIDENT EVIL $27,684 1366
GCN RESIDENT EVIL 2 $3,936 130
GCN RESIDENT EVIL 3:NEMES $6,471 217
GCN RESIDENT EVIL CODE: X $48,169 1738
GCN RESIDENT EVIL ZERO $104,324 5299
GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE $162,602 5424
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KOEI
GCN MYSTIC HEROES $1,635 50
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KONAMI OF AMERICA
GBA AIRFORCE DELTA STORM $1,414 59
GBA BOKTAI: SUN IN HAND $85,011 5712
GBA CASTLEVANIA: ARIA $39,397 1314
GBA CASTLEVANIA: CIRCLE $10,690 678
GBA CASTLEVANIA: HARMONY $2,126 88
GBA CONTRA ADVANCE: ALIEN $3,834 256
GBA DISNEY BASKETBALL $454 24
GBA DISNEY FOOTBALL $666 53
GBA DISNEY MOTORCROSS $153 5
GBA DISNEY SKATEBOARDING $2,866 276
GBA DISNEY SOCCER $337 27
GBA ESPN FINAL ROUND 2K2 $1,788 139
GBA ESPN GAMES: BASS 2002 $376 19
GBA ESPN WINTR SPORTS 2K2 $437 51
GBA ESPN X GAMES: SKATE $1,915 105
GBA ESPN X GAMES:SNOW 2K2 $2,183 215
GBA FROGGER 2: LOST WAND $2,153 122
GBA FROGGER ADVANCEUEST $331 19
GBA FROGGER'S ADV: TEMPLE $167,149 12197
GBA FROGGERS JOURNY:RELIC $72,331 4429
GBA GRADIUS GALAXIES $3,197 212
GBA JURASSIC PARK 3: DNA $785 37
GBA JURASSIC PARK3:ATTACK $2,370 76
GBA JURASSIC PARK3:BUILDR $334 15
GBA KONAMI ARCADE ADVNCED $69,819 5966
GBA KRAZY RACERS $1,193 58
GBA MOTOCROS MANIAC ADVNC $29,791 2231
GBA NINJA FIVE-O $615 20
GBA SILENT SCOPE $1,093 59
GBA TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $543,447 26905
GBA YU-GI-OH! DUNGEONDICE $25,159 848
GBA YU-GI-OH! ETERNAL $93,530 3131
GBA YU-GI-OH! SACRED CARD $623,489 21338
GBA YU-GI-OH! TRNMNT 2004 $1,053,870 31485
GBA YU-GI-OH! WORLDWIDE $110,390 2898
GBA ZONE OF ENDERS: FIST $1,470 88
GCN DISNEY BASKETBALL $849 22
GCN DISNEY FOOTBALL $200 11
GCN DISNEY SKATEBOARDING $3,212 170
GCN DISNEY SOCCER $1,111 63
GCN ESPN MLS XTRA TIME2K2 $1,057 45
GCN ESPN WINTR SPORTS 2K2 $1,099 103
GCN EVOLUTION SKATEBOARD $2,895 233
GCN FROGGER BEYOND $3,643 173
GCN FROGGERS ADVNT:RESCUE $46,007 1632
GCN METAL GEAR:TWIN SNAKE $474,436 11919
GCN TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $193,016 6338
GCN YU-GI-OH! FALSEBOUND $331,164 8321
(MGS:TTS got it's butt kicked by Fire Emblem.)
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LUCASARTS
GCN GLADIUS $46,666 2004
GCN STAR WARS: CLONE WARS $76,762 3925
GCN SW: BOUNTY HUNTER $40,958 3017
GCN SW: JEDI KNIGHT II $4,112 100
GCN SW: ROGUE SQUADRON II $79,464 4006
GCN SW:ROGUE SQUADRON III $297,287 14064
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NAMCO
GBA KLONOA: EMPIRE DREAMS $40,397 2705
GBA NAMCO MUSEUM $321,714 20960
GBA PAC-MAN COLLECTION $238,490 15297
GBA TEKKEN ADVANCE $29,929 1912
GCN DEAD TO RIGHTS $13,947 886
GCN I-NINJA $46,842 2534
GCN NAMCO MUSEUM $124,438 6352
GCN PAC-MAN FEVER $22,254 1294
GCN PAC-MAN PLAYER'S BND $207,023 10571
GCN PAC-MAN WORLD 2 $25,024 1360
GCN R:RACING EVOLUTION $46,279 2299
GCN SMASHING DRIVE $6,983 420
GCN SOUL CALIBUR II $271,156 9537
GCN SPAWN: ARMAGEDDON $35,686 1746
(BTW, the GameCube version of SC2 beat the PS2 and XBox versions... again.)
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TECMO
GBA MONSTER RANCHER ADV $1,468 41
GBA MONSTER RANCHER ADV 2 $15,482 546
PS2 DEAD OR ALIVE 2 $12,089 603
PS2 FATAL FRAME $1,864 45
PS2 FATAL FRAME II $53,809 1554
PS2 GALLOP RACER $872 27
PS2 GALLOP RACER 2003 $27,229 880
PS2 MONSTER RANCHER 3 $4,224 182
PS2 MONSTER RANCHER 4 $75,743 1785
PS2 RYGAR:LEGENDARY ADVNT $23,581 1185
PS2 UNISON:RHYTHM & DANCE $227 17
XBX DEAD OR ALIVE 3 $116,942 5963
XBX DOA: BEACH VOLLEYBALL $84,952 2659
XBX FATAL FRAME $24,639 788
XBX NINJA GAIDEN $1,481,507 30690
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ATLUS
GBA DEMI KIDS:LIGHT VERSN $10,656 537
GBA DEMI-KIDS: DARK VERSN $11,226 531
GBA DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCE $15,608 690
GBA KING OF FIGHTERS EX 2 $23,818 917
GBA LUFIA: RUINS OF LORE $7,785 349
GBA RIVER CITY RANSOM EX $214,211 7205
GBA ROBOPON 2: CROSS $1,220 46
GBA ROBOPON 2: RING $1,239 58
GBA SHINING SOUL $17,972 637
GBA SHINING SOUL II $213,982 7155
GBA SUPER DODGE BALL $1,373 68
GBA TACTICS OGRE: LODIS $9,372 371
GCN CUBIVORE $1,257 63
GCN GO! GO! HYPERGRIND $11,927 800
PS2 DISGAEA:HOUR DARKNESS $119,872 2415
PS2 DUAL HEARTS $1,694 72
PS2 HARD HITTER TENNIS $15,696 1589
PS2 SKY GUNNER $3,526 178
PS2 TSUGUNAI: ATONEMENT $1,227 42
PS2 WIZARDRY: FORSAKEN $1,144 32
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EIDOS INTERACTIVE (CORP)
GCN BLOOD OMEN 2 $2,829 213
GCN HITMAN 2: ASSASSIN $116,381 6668
GCN SWINGERZ GOLF $6,893 681
GCN THE ITALIAN JOB $5,705 280
GCN TIMESPLITTERS 2 $72,672 4355
(BTW, the GameCube version of TS2 beat the PS2 and XBox versions... again.)
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SQUARE ENIX USA (CORP)
PS2 DRAKENGARD $355,108 8918
PS2 DRIVING EMOTION-S $112 7
PS2 FINAL FANTASY X $313,484 15763
PS2 FINAL FANTASY X-2 $521,174 13116
PS2 GRANDIA XTREME $1,675 52
PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS $419,962 19782
PS2 ROBOT ALCHEMIC DRIVE $3,769 132
PS2 THE BOUNCER $1,535 63
PS2 UNLIMITED SAGA $31,456 2359
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UBISOFT (CORP)
GBA AMERICAN BASS CHLNG $3,673 349
GBA BATMAN VENGEANCE $2,076 75
GBA BATMAN: RISE SIN TZU $32,403 1783
GBA BRATZ $1,341 59
GBA CHESSMASTER $3,144 197
GBA COLIN MCRAE RALLY 2.0 $437 24
GBA CROUCHING TIGER $12,390 676
GBA DAVIS CUP TENNIS $1,627 134
GBA DISNEY'S JUNGLE BOOK $8,365 564
GBA DONALD DUCK ADVANCE $697 37
GBA ICE AGE $1,805 122
GBA LUNAR LEGEND $38,461 1876
GBA MIKE TYSON BOXING $1,064 105
GBA MONSTER JAM: MAXIMUM $2,948 186
GBA MOTO RACER ADVANCE $634 22
GBA MUCHA LUCHA:MASCARITA $62,093 3097
GBA PLANET OF THE APES $834 64
GBA PRINCE PERSIA: SANDS $66,236 3282
GBA RAYMAN 3: HOODLUM $28,195 1444
GBA RAYMAN ADVANCE $1,746 56
GBA ROCKY $1,817 124
GBA SABRINA: POTION $6,602 390
GBA SALT LAKE 2002 $532 34
GBA SUM OF ALL FEARS $2,585 337
GBA SUPER BUST A MOVE $1,437 42
GBA T. CLANCYS PANDORA $96,052 3221
GBA T. CLANCYS SPLINTER $9,060 414
GBA T.CLANCYS ROGUE SPEAR $2,022 132
GBA THE MUMMY $483 39
GBA TOMB RAIDER: PROPHECY $7,670 363
GBA WORMS WORLD PARTY $6,224 408
GCN BATMAN VENGEANCE $3,951 283
GCN BATMAN: RISE SIN TZU $23,076 1357
GCN BEYOND GOOD & EVIL $33,723 1663
GCN BUST A MOVE 3000 $1,927 50
GCN CHARLIES ANGELS $3,978 195
GCN CITY RACER $1,688 42
GCN DONALD DUCK GOIN' $841 52
GCN EVOLUTION WORLDS $1,486 81
GCN MONSTER 4X4: MASTERS $24,320 1579
GCN MONSTER JAM: MAXIMUM $4,417 219
GCN PKUT OF THE SHADOWS $6,741 358
GCN PRINCE PERSIA: SANDS $111,855 3307
GCN PRO RALLY 2002 $320 20
GCN RAYMAN 3: HOODLUM $1,652 98
GCN RAYMAN ARENA $12,299 816
GCN ROCKY $8,954 488
GCN SUM OF ALL FEARS $882 42
GCN T. CLANCYS SPLINTER $79,976 3898
GCN T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON $39,308 1661
GCN TARZAN UNTAMED $7,445 353
GCN WORMS BLAST $9,645 516
GCN XIII $71,548 3482
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MAJESCO
GBA ALL GROWN UP VOL 1 $13,685 686
GBA BATTLEBOTS: BEYOND $1,136 64
GBA BATTLEBOTS: DESIGN $76,436 9199
GBA BOMBERMAN MAX 2: BLUE $4,960 507
GBA BOMBERMAN MAX 2: RED $3,893 370
GBA BOOKWORM $46,045 2307
GBA BOXING FEVER $3,756 237
GBA CAESARS PALACE $4,471 329
GBA CARTOON NETWORK SPEED $60,988 3054
GBA DARK ARENA $1,661 90
GBA DENKI BLOCKS $3,471 339
GBA DORA EXPLORER VOL 1 $142,556 7160
GBA EARTHWORM JIM $3,976 300
GBA EARTHWORM JIM 2 $680 36
GBA F-14 TOMCAT $41,529 2951
GBA FAIRLYODD VOL 1 $350,414 17686
GBA FAIRLYODD VOL 2 $279,156 14043
GBA FORTRESS $5,994 449
GBA IRIDION 3D $3,173 298
GBA IRIDION II $22,610 2195
GBA M&M'S PARTY $8 2
GBA MIGHTY BEANZ PUZZLES $3,736 186
GBA NICKTOONS COLL VOL 1 $50,270 2524
GBA OPERATION: ARMORED $27,393 1787
GBA PITFALL: MAYAN ADV $5,049 375
GBA QUAD DESERT FURY $167,876 11131
GBA SONIC X VOL 1 $50,862 2556
GBA SPONGEBOB VOL 1 $508,661 25705
GBA SPONGEBOB VOL 2 $401,171 20169
GBA STRAW SHORTCAKE VOL 1 $11,412 575
GBA SUPER COLLAPSE! II $43,734 2192
GBA TURBO TURTLE ADVENTR $2,434 232
GCN BLACK & BRUISED $9,822 763
GCN BLOODRAYNE $10,363 788
GCN BLOWOUT $3,620 280
GCN BOMBERMAN GENERATION $10,338 447
GCN BOMBERMAN JETTERS $113,425 5700
Post by: Syl on June 24, 2004, 03:34:24 PM
Post by: Mario on June 26, 2004, 03:36:15 PM
Nintendo Gamecube | Total
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SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE | 884,143
SUPER MONKEY BALL | 486,085
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION | 446,733
SONIC HEROES | 382,120
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 | 341,105
SONIC ADVENTURE DX | 297,874
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE I & II | 187,673
NFL 2K3 | 135,195
BILLY HATCHER | 133,167
NBA 2K3 | 99,301
SKIES OF ARCADIA LEGENDS | 91,932
NBA 2K2 | 79,545
HOME RUN KING | 66,157
BEACH SPIKERS | 64,235
SOCCER SLAM | 42,130
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 27,091
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE III | 23,480
VIRTUA STRIKER 2002 | 9,478
NHL 2K3 | 8,635
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 5,884
SAMURAI JACK | 5,287
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Microsoft Xbox | Total
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NFL 2K3 | 287,734
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL | 194,604
NBA 2K3 | 182,021
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL | 141,816
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL | 130,440
HOUSE OF THE DEAD III | 128,919
PANZER DRAGOON ORTA | 122,170
NBA 2K2 | 114,194
CRAZY TAXI 3 | 103,070
NFL 2K2 | 99,632
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 98,586
JET SET RADIO FUTURE | 97,360
SONIC HEROES | 94,603
GUNVALKYRIE | 92,827
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL 2K3 | 84,403
SEGA GT 2002 | 83,656
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 81,746
TOEJAM & EARL III | 65,079
NHL 2K3 | 63,286
ESPN NHL HOCKEY | 57,959
OTOGI: MYTH OF DEMONS | 53,343
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS | 50,673
ESPN MLB BASEBALL | 48,305
SEGA GT ONLINE | 35,260
SOCCER SLAM | 29,875
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Sony Playstation 2 | Total
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NFL 2K3 | 792,583
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 | 620,299
NBA 2K2 | 465,817
NBA 2K3 | 401,932
NFL 2K2 | 358,675
SHINOBI | 274,127
SONIC HEROES | 215,334
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL | 205,120
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL | 193,394
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 EVO | 187,524
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 168,519
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL2K3 | 91,991
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 91,501
TENNIS 2K2 | 88,185
ESPN NHL HOCKEY | 82,277
NHL 2K3 | 80,249
GUNGRAVE | 74,661
BASS FISHING DUEL | 53,179
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS | 51,707
SOCCER SLAM | 44,917
AERO ELITE: COMBAT | 27,331
ESPN MLB BASEBALL | 24,337
REZ | 20,512
NIGHTSHADE | 20,434
KING OF ROUTE 66 | 20,404
FERRARI F355 CHALLENGE | 19,040
SAMURAI JACK | 10,602
VIRTUAL-ON MARZ | 10,305
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Top 10 [All-Formats] | Total | Format
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10 SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 | 341,105 | NGC
9 NFL 2K2 | 358,675 | PS2
8 SONIC HEROES | 382,120 | NGC
7 NBA 2K3 | 401,932 | PS2
6 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION | 446,733 | NGC
5 NBA 2K2 | 465,817 | PS2
4 SUPER MONKEY BALL | 486,085 | NGC
3 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 | 620,299 | PS2
2 NFL 2K3 | 792,583 | PS2
1 SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE | 884,143 | NGC
Post by: couchmonkey on June 28, 2004, 09:32:52 AM
Post by: AMac2002 on June 28, 2004, 11:35:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario ---------------------------------------------
Top 10 [All-Formats] | Total | Format
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10 SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 | 341,105 | NGC
9 NFL 2K2 | 358,675 | PS2
8 SONIC HEROES | 382,120 | NGC
7 NBA 2K3 | 401,932 | PS2
6 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION | 446,733 | NGC
5 NBA 2K2 | 465,817 | PS2
4 SUPER MONKEY BALL | 486,085 | NGC
3 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 | 620,299 | PS2
2 NFL 2K3 | 792,583 | PS2
1 SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE | 884,143 | NGC
ha, woah look at that. every single game in there is from a franchise. just kinda weird/interesting
Post by: Renny on June 28, 2004, 12:29:37 PM
Post by: Deguello on June 29, 2004, 05:31:20 AM
Last Numbers I saw for ED were 256,862.
JSRF 97,360 + Panzer Dragoon Orta 122,170 = 219530
"PS2 THE BOUNCER $1,535 63"
63 people will curse the name of Sqaure Enix this month.
Post by: Syl on June 29, 2004, 06:21:36 AM
Post by: Ymeegod on July 01, 2004, 07:22:58 AM
Post by: Syl on July 01, 2004, 08:29:18 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 02, 2004, 06:58:11 AM
Post by: NintendoSoldier on July 02, 2004, 03:52:14 PM
Post by: Mario on July 02, 2004, 05:25:10 PM
2. Xbox
3. GameCube
Post by: NintendoSoldier on July 02, 2004, 06:15:32 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on July 02, 2004, 07:04:56 PM
Post by: Mario on July 02, 2004, 08:34:23 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on July 03, 2004, 02:34:12 AM
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GC:
Japan: 3.7 million
NA: 8.3 million
Europe: 2.6 million
Australia: 125,000
Total: 14.725 million (present)
Xbox:
Japan: 450,000
NA: 9.61 million
Europe: 3.6 million
Korea: 80,000
Australia: 450,000
Total: 14.19 million (present)
For a frame of reference, the XBox tends to beat the Cube in the US by about 33,000 units each month (figuring on a million unit lead in the time between their Nov/01 launches and March/04, two and a half years later).
In April and May (the two months that the XBox's latest price cut has been in effect), the XBox scored 200,000 and 140,000 unit victories against the Cube.
(It's really a shame Nintendo squandered away all of their earlier price cut victories and momentum with that stupid "hardware shortage" blunder.)
If Nintendo's worldwide lead was around half a million (which is what even conservative people always seemed to be saying), then 340,000 in two months (instead of their usually ineffective gain of 66,000) isn't enough to do the trick yet. However, Microsoft could still do it in the next couple of months, if their momentum holds up.
By the way, IGN is currently reporting an unconfirmed-by-Nintendo rumor that says Nintendo's looking to bundle Metroid Prime free with the GameCube, in anticipation of Metroid Prime 2.
(BTW, just looking at Japan's numbers, wasn't the XBox's launch shipment itself 400,000 units? That's just so bad.)
Post by: Mario on July 03, 2004, 05:10:46 AM
And that Metroid Prime bundle apparently contains a MP2 demo disk, which would be a great bundle for anyone interested in Metroid, and should sell very well if advertised properly. A Resident Evil bundle would be a good idea too... throw in a RE4 demo and it'll go flying off shelves.
Post by: Syl on July 16, 2004, 11:58:42 PM
Post by: Chongman on July 17, 2004, 09:30:04 AM
good question
personally, I'm wondering how many copies of tales has been sold so far...
Post by: Mario on July 17, 2004, 06:17:05 PM
Post by: Syl on July 17, 2004, 07:37:57 PM
Post by: Mario on July 17, 2004, 08:44:30 PM
Post by: Deguello on July 17, 2004, 08:57:14 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 17, 2004, 08:59:05 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 17, 2004, 11:11:02 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on July 18, 2004, 11:53:40 AM
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As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.
The software sell rate is about...
PS2: 8.10
Xbox: 6.58
GCN: 6.09
GBA: 3.42
It says so in this very thread.
Post by: AMac2002 on July 18, 2004, 04:39:36 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Interestingly enough, the Gamecube has twice the number of million sellers as the XBox in America.
True dat. The reason Xbox sells more games though is that is has so many games in that middle ground. The ones that sell 100k+ but not a million. With gamecube, it's more like you sell great, or you completely flop.
Post by: AMac2002 on July 18, 2004, 04:40:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Well MC no one really bought all the other Xbox games beside halo, tom clancy games , random shooters, KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden,and the random Xbox Live!(or !eviL by KDR's book) games you get my drift.... As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.
Ok.. you're either being sarcastic, or you're a very owned fanboy...
Post by: Mumei on July 18, 2004, 07:15:01 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onixQuote
As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.
The software sell rate is about...
PS2: 8.10
Xbox: 6.58
GCN: 6.09
GBA: 3.42
It says so in this very thread.
Erm.. According to the most recent EGM in their Nintendo E3 section, the average number of games in a GC owner's library is 12.8 games. Or do you mean something different?
Post by: joeamis on July 21, 2004, 09:50:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Mumei
Erm.. According to the most recent EGM in their Nintendo E3 section, the average number of games in a GC owner's library is 12.8 games. Or do you mean something different?
True. And Nintendo states they forecast sales of 20 million gamecubes (total) by the end of this fiscal year according to that same issue.
Post by: Mario on July 21, 2004, 12:29:19 PM
PS2 Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision 10,038,050 $ 205,575
2 DRIV3R Atari 7,041,583 $ 142,295
3 SHREK 2 Activision 5,432,124 $ 125,911
4 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts 4,701,471 $ 98,240
5 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts 4,691,477 $ 117,787
Xbox Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ 9,391,057 $ 190,004
2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision 6,791,006 $ 138,042
3 CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi Universal 6,432,399 $ 130,572
4 DRIV3R Atari 4,743,799 $ 95,853
5 HALO Microsoft 2,968,140 $ 100,016
GC Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo 7,656,926 $ 155,067
2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts 3,331,438 $ 83,821
3 SHREK 2 Activision 3,272,307 $ 71,924
4 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision 3,020,518 $ 61,415
5 POKEMON COLOSSEUM Nintendo 2,302,391 $ 46,997
GBA Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG Nintendo 3,131,446 $ 102,511
2 SHREK 2 Activision 2,677,619 $ 89,683
3 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts 2,202,763 $ 74,397
4 SONIC ADVANCE 3 THQ 2,144,672 $ 72,278
5 SUPER MARIO CLASSIC Nintendo 2,144,496 $ 110,627
June 2004 Hardware Sales
PS2: 427,000
Xbox: 262,000
GCN: 109,000
GBA: 521,000
LTD Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.43
Xbox: 6.88
GCN: 6.55
GBA: 3.60
Top 25 Software Titles
Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
2 XBX FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ
3 GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo
4 PS2 DRIV3R Atari
5 XBX SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
6 XBX CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi
7 PS2 SHREK 2 Activision
8 XBX DRIV3R Atari
9 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts
10 PS2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
11 PS2 RED DEAD REVOLVER Take 2
12 PS2 T. CLANCYS PANDORA Ubi Soft
13 PS2 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 Electronic Arts
14 PS2 NBA BALLERS Midway
15 GCN HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
16 GCN SHREK 2 Activision
17 GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG Nintendo
18 GCN SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
19 XBX HALO Microsoft
20 GBA SHREK 2 Activision
21 GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM Nintendo
22 GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY Capcom
23 GBA HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
24 XBX RED DEAD REVOLVER Take 2
25 GBA SONIC ADVANCE 3 THQ
others:
GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $2,208,650 75,102
PS2 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $1,955,654 66,113
GBA BOMBERMAN CLASSIC $117,926 6105
GBA DONKEY KONG CLASSIC $1,072,750 55957
GBA EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC $520,327 26673
GBA ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC $141,628 7349
GBA PAC-MAN CLASSIC $411,685 21243
GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $2,144,496 110627
GBA XEVIOUS CLASSIC $75,903 3948
GBA ZELDA CLASSIC $2,000,679 102166
GCN BILLY HATCHER $105,707 5234
GCN PHANTASY STAR: CARD $142,695 3168
GCN SKIES OF ARCADIA LGND $242,333 9609
GCN SONIC ADVENTURE 2 $301,847 10076
GCN SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT $405,239 18652
GCN SONIC HEROES $882,513 17936
GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $1,083,913 56537
GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL $269,681 13613
I have to go now, might post more when i get back.
Post by: ruby_onix on July 21, 2004, 01:42:02 PM
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GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $2,208,650 75,102
PS2 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $1,955,654 66,113
Man, I wonder how much better the GameCube version would've done if it wasn't the inferior "cheaply tossed together" version, with deliberately screwed-up controls.
Or if Capcom hadn't delayed the GameCube version along with the PS2 version, until they could get the PS2 version working properly.
Post by: Mario on July 21, 2004, 07:20:39 PM
PS2: -3%
Xbox: +55%
GCN: -12%
GBA: -21%
Where's the momentum now Reggie?
Here are totals for all of Nintendo's GameCube games
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,320,430
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,609,711
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,525,643
The Wind Waker: 1,476,718
Luigi's Mansion: 1,411,482
Metroid Prime: 1,152,510
Mario Party 4: 939,306
Star Fox Adventures: 758,419
Animal Crossing: 734,460
Mario Party 5: 704,591
Pikmin: 641,363
Pokemon Colosseum: 601,931
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 352,667
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 346,120
Wave Race: 323,409
Kirby Air Ride: 275,717
Eternal Darkness: 268,681
F-Zero GX: 225,911
Wario World: 215,259
Preview Disk: 168,784
Four Swords Adventures: 155,067
NBA Courtside 2002: 153,316
Pokemon Channel: 143,026
Magical Mirror: 107,503
Custom Robo: 96,424
1080 Avalanche: 80,992
Wario Ware Inc: 63,271
other interesting totals:
Resident Evil Zero: 410,872
Resident Evil: 463,516
Resident Evil 2: 35,176
Resident Evil 3: 47,541
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 27,889
Viewtiful Joe: 231,899
Soul Calibur (GC): 605,102
Soul Calibur (PS2): 551,708
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 389,444
TimeSplitters 2 (GC): 213,387
TimeSplitters 2 (PS2): 264,128
TimeSplitters 2 (Xbox): 213,869
Oh and might as well throw in some GBA total sales too:
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 $65,757,301 2,202,435
POKEMON RUBY $64,533,322 2,048,505
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE $60,687,759 2,024,437
POKEMON SAPPHIRE $58,599,373 1,853,426
MARIO KART: CIRCUIT $55,551,588 1,852,340
ZELDA: LINK TO PAST $35,547,495 1,221,710
MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $35,372,014 1,200,068
YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 $31,107,832 1,082,203
KIRBY: NIGHTMARE $25,950,776 865,438
METROID FUSION $25,876,134 888,443
MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $23,168,495 778,449
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $22,989,089 808,862
GOLDEN SUN $21,324,038 742,618
WARIO LAND 4 $20,439,577 717,542
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS $18,896,872 558,707
POKEMON PINBALL: R&S $13,251,067 432,937
GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE $12,417,720 418,665
ADVANCE WARS $11,588,948 400,624
METROID ZERO MISSION $10,046,090 343,752
GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 $9,991,228 343,876
FIRE EMBLEM $9,853,818 312,182
F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY $7,917,389 271,180
ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $7,712,016 267,481
WARIOWARE INC: MEGA $6,205,681 209,307
HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK $5,644,063 193,424
SWORD OF MANA $5,607,812 184,352
MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $4,429,355 147,910
DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST $3,272,703 121,091
SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $2,144,496 110,627
ZELDA CLASSIC $2,000,679 102,166
DONKEY KONG CLASSIC $1,072,750 55,957
MARIO GOLF ADVANCE $1,097,012 37,531
EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC $520,327 26,673
PAC-MAN CLASSIC $411,685 21,243
ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC $141,628 7,349
BOMBERMAN CLASSIC $117,926 6,105
XEVIOUS CLASSIC $75,903 3,948
Post by: KDR_11k on July 21, 2004, 09:10:48 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on July 22, 2004, 03:01:12 AM
Post by: Berny on July 22, 2004, 04:01:58 AM
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Viewtiful Joe: 231,899
That makes me want to cry. Joe deserves so much more. ED didn't do much better.
Post by: Chongman on July 22, 2004, 09:18:41 AM
that can't be right
is that the total sales of all GC games overall??? that just doesn't sound plausible. Viewtiful Joe sold much much much much much better than that...i mean...
good grief, if it didn't then Iwata is dead on correct...the industry is dead and all people want to do now is shoot and maime things...
*looks at sales again...contemplates suicide...*
no! must...hold on....for RE4... where shooting and maiming is the right thing to do...
Post by: Ian Sane on July 22, 2004, 09:44:03 AM
It probably wouldn't make much of a difference since most people who bought it probably didn't know the controls were goofed. Still I'm quite surprised the Cube version sold better considering it's not only the inferior version but the PS2 userbase is just so much bigger.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 22, 2004, 09:57:40 AM
Yeah just look at the top ten for the month
1 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
2 XBX FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ
3 GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo
4 PS2 DRIV3R Atari
5 XBX SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
6 XBX CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi
7 PS2 SHREK 2 Activision
8 XBX DRIV3R Atari
9 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts
10 PS2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
We've got 5 movie games and one sports game so right there 60% of the top ten are generic licenced titles. Of the four non-licenced titles two of them are Driv3r which completely sucks. So we're left with two titles that are actually good and Full Spectrum Warrior is a generic war game that focuses on realism over creativity. So out of the top ten only ONE of those titles is one with any sort of originality or innovation and it's a Zelda game and thus probably sold more because of it's name than the innovation found within (and Four Swords is quite innovative). Yeah I'd say it's fair to think the industry is dying.
Though in Japan Zelda is the only one of these titles that would even have a shot at making the top ten so things aren't totally hopeless. If generic America product keeps dominating it might bring more Japanese third parties to Nintendo's side since that's really the only place where they don't have to compete with casual gamers in the North American market. As long as Nintendo can tough it out and survive for the next few years we may see a complete split where hardcore gamers play Nintendo almost exclusively while all the casuals play Sony and MS. There's enough creative developers out there that if they all teamed up to support one console they could survive.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 22, 2004, 01:24:33 PM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on July 22, 2004, 03:15:32 PM
Chronicles of riddick is great as well, just to damn short.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 22, 2004, 03:33:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
F-Zero GX: 225,911
Looking at that makes me sad. F-Zero GX deserved to sell so much more...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 22, 2004, 04:20:40 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 22, 2004, 04:32:24 PM
You can't expect everything to sell a million copies, that just isn't how it works. A lot of great games don't even break 100,000.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 22, 2004, 04:48:31 PM
Post by: Syl on July 22, 2004, 11:52:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
'good grief, if it didn't then Iwata is dead on correct...the industry is dead and all people want to do now is shoot and maime things..."
Yeah just look at the top ten for the month
1 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
2 XBX FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ
3 GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo
4 PS2 DRIV3R Atari
5 XBX SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
6 XBX CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi
7 PS2 SHREK 2 Activision
8 XBX DRIV3R Atari
9 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts
10 PS2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
We've got 5 movie games and one sports game so right there 60% of the top ten are generic licenced titles. Of the four non-licenced titles two of them are Driv3r which completely sucks. So we're left with two titles that are actually good and Full Spectrum Warrior is a generic war game that focuses on realism over creativity. So out of the top ten only ONE of those titles is one with any sort of originality or innovation and it's a Zelda game and thus probably sold more because of it's name than the innovation found within (and Four Swords is quite innovative). Yeah I'd say it's fair to think the industry is dying.
Though in Japan Zelda is the only one of these titles that would even have a shot at making the top ten so things aren't totally hopeless. If generic America product keeps dominating it might bring more Japanese third parties to Nintendo's side since that's really the only place where they don't have to compete with casual gamers in the North American market. As long as Nintendo can tough it out and survive for the next few years we may see a complete split where hardcore gamers play Nintendo almost exclusively while all the casuals play Sony and MS. There's enough creative developers out there that if they all teamed up to support one console they could survive.
You have to remember Ian, it was an incredibly slow month all around, not many games came out. Sales are down during the summer.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 23, 2004, 02:35:23 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 23, 2004, 06:09:26 AM
200,000 is not bad for a brand-new game with no liscence and a small marketing push. Capcom obviously agress or we wouldn't be getting VJ 2. It will take time for the game to spread to the mainstream.
In my opinion, the industry isn't dying, it's expanding. I don't know for sure, but I bet 200,000 sales has always been a good start for a brand-new game series with no liscences. The thing is casual gamers are driving sales more and more, and they're buying games they recognize like Mario, Zelda, Spider-Man, Final Fantasy, James Bond, Grand Theft Auto, Halo, etc.
And why not? I do the exact same thing. I'll go out and buy a new U2 CD without worrying about how good it is, because I know and love the band. It probably ticks music fans right off that I'm not recognizing Modest Mouse or some other even more obscure band with my money, but I don't care! I'll buy music by super-indie bands when I've actually heard their music, and not before then. I'll read some music reviews once in a while or listen to the local college radio station and get turned on to something new, but until then I'll stick with names I recognize. I suppose it's bad, but on the other hand devoting every minute of my life to knowing what's "good" in every facet of pop-culture would arguably be worse.
It's still frustrating, though.
Edit: way too many carriage returns at the end of the post.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 24, 2004, 12:49:23 AM
Post by: Mario on July 24, 2004, 01:30:37 AM
Post by: Plugabugz on July 24, 2004, 01:57:23 AM
It was released 2 weeks before MK: DD.
Post by: Mario on August 16, 2004, 12:29:56 PM
OVERALL
1 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 $25,135,700 508,807 (PS2)
2 ESPN NFL 2K5 $7,810,233 406,083 (PS2)
3 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $19,786,940 405,626 (PS2)
4 ESPN NFL 2K5 7495292 385660 (XBOX)
5 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 13072050 264455 (XBOX)
6 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 8741589 178669 (XBOX)
7 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $4,095,983 144,304 (GBA)
8 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $6,653,579 138,098 (GC)
9 DRIV3R $6,010,556 122,495 (PS2)
10 TALES OF SYMPHONIA $5,885,317 118,507 (GC)
GBA
1 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $4,095,983 144,304
2 YU-GI-OH! RESHEF $2,972,662 97,610
3 MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $1,985,148 64,467
4 SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $1,206,788 62,157
5 DRAGONBALL Z:SUPRSNIC $1,827,285 62,149
6 POKEMON RUBY $1,965,223 59,267
7 TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $683,378 50,679
8 SONIC ADVANCE 3 $1,504,842 50,319
9 POKEMON SAPPHIRE $1,644,748 50,075
10 MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,500,329 49,213
11 SHREK 2 $1,447,113 48,460
12 ZELDA CLASSIC $932,765 48,013
13 MARIO GOLF ADVANCE $1,435,010 46,056
14 MEGA MAN BATTLE4 RED $1,304,644 43,675
15 MEGA MAN BATTLE4 BLUE $1,297,054 43,442
Gamecube
1 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $6,653,579 138,098
2 TALES OF SYMPHONIA $5,885,317 118,507
3 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $1,550,894 52,089
4 ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS $2,378,094 47,995
5 SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $1,267,165 43,549
6 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $688,661 34,579
7 SOUL CALIBUR II $663,323 34,457
8 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 $1,611,577 32,547
9 POKEMON COLOSSEUM $1,352,712 28,971
10 MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,326,150 26,914
11 SHREK 2 $1,067,352 25,375
12 SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT $464,350 24,352
13 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN $925,975 24,145
14 LUIGI'S MANSION $391,147 22,653
15 HARVEST MOON:WONDRFUL $876,464 22,069
PS2
1 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 $25,135,700 508,807
2 ESPN NFL 2K5 $7,810,233 406,083
3 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $19,786,940 405,626
4 DRIV3R $6,010,556 122,495
5 MVP BASEBALL 2004 $2,773,535 58,215
6 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $1,557,921 52,317
7 RED DEAD REVOLVER $2,026,822 45,669
8 DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI2 $925,285 45,234
9 T. CLANCYS PANDORA $2,046,242 42,694
10 SHREK 2 $1,721,436 40,456
11 GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE $938,705 38,996
12 DDRMAX 2 $1,552,474 38,949
13 NBA STREET VOL 2 $774,867 38,789
14 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 $1,844,654 38,788
15 MLB 2005 $1,506,436 37,853
XBX
1 ESPN NFL 2K5 7495292 385660
2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 13072050 264455
3 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 8741589 178669
4 HALO 2639015 92660
5 DRIV3R 2811226 57905
6 FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR 1974401 43801
7 SUDEKI 2084791 41917
8 MECH ASSAULT 407453 25400
9 MVP BASEBALL 2004 1076842 22597
10 RED DEAD REVOLVER 964944 21434
11 SOUL CALIBUR II 404704 20361
12 CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK 955439 20317
13 GRAND THEFT AUTO PACK 880679 19822
14 T. CLANCYS PANDORA 957269 19796
15 MORROWIND:GAME YEAR 441237 19200
Post by: Syl on August 16, 2004, 12:35:05 PM
That really contradicts with the fact that its nearly impossible to find because its selling out everywhere.
Post by: odifiend on August 16, 2004, 12:42:51 PM
Post by: Mario on August 16, 2004, 04:19:09 PM
Post by: Gremio on August 16, 2004, 06:59:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Syl
tales only sold 120,000? ouch.
That really contradicts with the fact that its nearly impossible to find because its selling out everywhere.
Didn't Xenosaga sell about that much on its first month of release? (114,896 units if I'm not mistaken) And I believe Xenosaga's close to a 500K seller now. Maybe Namco just didn't ship enough units of ToS to meet demand, or word of mouth advertisement hasn't spread yet. ToS managed to keep itself in the top ten when the rest of the top ten chart is dominated by sports and movie licenses (and hyped to kazoo Driv3r). A shame ToS didn't sell more, but... I guess we'll have to wait and see until next month to know if Tales' sales are going to keep up or if it's going to drop off the charts.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 16, 2004, 07:04:46 PM
Post by: FFantasyFX on August 16, 2004, 08:22:44 PM
Post by: Mario on August 17, 2004, 04:08:29 AM
Hardware
PS2 - 290,000
XBOX - 245,000
GAMECUBE - 93,000
GBA - 400,000
Post by: KDR_11k on August 17, 2004, 08:20:21 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 17, 2004, 08:57:46 AM
I'd like to go check out some stores to see how easy it is to find now. I predict it will sell another 100,000 copies this month.
Post by: RCmodeler on August 17, 2004, 01:03:31 PM
July 2004 Hardware Sales
PS2: 305,000 (+2% over 2003)
Xbox: 202,000 (+47%)
GCN: 93,000* (-27%)
GBA: 395,000 (-19%)
(*) This may or may not be correct. CSFB's cumulative numbers indicate monthly sales of 75,000.
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 24,433,000
Xbox: 9,367,000
GCN: 7,672,000
GBA: 22,579,000
LTD Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.52
Xbox: 7.01
GCN: 6.68
GBA: 3.67
Publisher Market Shares
1 ELECTRONIC ARTS $77,734,030 22.2%
2 ACTIVISION $51,096,030 14.6%
--->3 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $34,770,540 9.9%
4 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) $26,308,270 7.5%
5 ATARI $19,142,900 5.5%
6 THQ $16,634,010 4.8%
7 KONAMI OF AMERICA $12,912,870 3.7%
8 NAMCO $12,758,590 3.6%
--->9 SONY (CORP) $11,300,880 3.2%
10 CAPCOM USA $10,563,550 3.0%
--->11 MICROSOFT (CORP) $9,216,409 2.6%
12 UBISOFT (CORP) $8,455,763 2.4%
13 VIVENDI UNIVERSAL (CORP) $7,991,915 2.3%
14 MIDWAY $7,358,642 2.1%
15 MAJESCO $6,443,957 1.8%
--->16 SEGA OF AMERICA $5,090,215 1.5%
17 ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMENT (CORP) $4,397,585 1.3%
18 EIDOS INTERACTIVE (CORP) $2,737,940 0.8%
19 SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) $2,642,455 0.8%
20 BUENA VISTA GAMES $2,376,561 0.7%
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 17, 2004, 01:34:45 PM
PS2: Google
GCN: a few mil
Xbox: Almost as many as the number of Vampire Hunter D movies that came out
GBA: 2.3X Google
~~~~~
In other news, I WON A 3-PACK OF TALES OF SYMPHONIA COLLECTOR CARDS!
Post by: KDR_11k on August 17, 2004, 09:43:27 PM
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2004, 12:31:38 PM
HARDWARE
GBA 312,568 $30,308,655
XBX 216,911 $32,202,460
PS2 211,690 $31,869,296
GCN 108,953 $10,840,460
GBA
1 GBA YU-GI-OH! RESHEF 63,489 $1,908,301
2 GBA SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 57,912 $1,661,151
3 GBA POKEMON RUBY 49,041 $1,633,618
4 GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC 40,182 $687,811
5 GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE 39,613 $1,306,960
6 GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG 37,842 $1,193,527
7 GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 35,889 $1,092,249
8 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 34,367 $658,971
9 GBA SONIC ADVANCE 3 32,787 $967,057
10 GBA DRAGONBALL Z:SUPRSNIC 29,468 $858,687
GCN
1 GCN MADDEN NFL 2005 87,404 $4,307,765
2 GCN TALES OF SYMPHONIA 67,172 $3,339,223
3 GCN SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 45,769 $2,171,678
4 GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 38,328 $1,151,505
5 GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS 31,955 $1,517,783
6 GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION 28,589 $574,998
7 GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE 27,034 $1,297,581
8 GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY 26,214 $781,931
9 GCN SOUL CALIBUR II 25,382 $504,563
10 GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM 21,263 $1,045,701
XBX
1 XBX MADDEN NFL 2005 509,100 $25,103,580
2 XBX ESPN NFL 2K5 311,359 $6,165,545
3 XBX T.CLANCYS BLACK ARROW 158,218 $6,157,931
4 XBX HALO 88,488 $2,652,439
5 XBX SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 48,236 $2,257,908
6 XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 39,449 $1,884,971
7 XBX SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC 38,669 $796,831
8 XBX MORROWIND:GAME YEAR 23,172 $525,636
9 XBX T. CLANCYS RAINBOW 3 23,087 $492,226
10 XBX GRAND THEFT AUTO PACK 22,566 $950,958
PS2
1 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 1,112,588 $54,142,420
2 PS2 ESPN NFL 2K5 448,433 $8,897,210
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 COLL 395,811 $23,390,230
4 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 129,492 $6,076,589
5 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 94,559 $4,687,620
6 PS2 HOT SHOTS GOLF FORE! 56,089 $2,243,741
7 PS2 DRIV3R 52,079 $2,225,679
8 PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE 41,361 $860,018
9 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI2 39,930 $798,924
10 PS2 YU-GI-OH! DUELISTS 35,199 $587,166
ALL
1 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 1,112,588 $54,142,420
2 XBX MADDEN NFL 2005 509,100 $25,103,580
3 PS2 ESPN NFL 2K5 448,433 $8,897,210
4 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 COLL 395,811 $23,390,230
5 XBX ESPN NFL 2K5 311,359 $6,165,545
6 XBX T.CLANCYS BLACK ARROW 158,218 $6,157,931
7 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 129,492 $6,076,589
8 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 94,559 $4,687,620
9 XBX HALO 88,488 $2,652,439
10 GCN MADDEN NFL 2005 87,404 $4,307,765
Post by: Chongman on September 13, 2004, 02:54:12 PM
well...
we'll see...
the next few months determines much
Post by: AMac2002 on September 13, 2004, 04:38:48 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 13, 2004, 05:45:32 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 13, 2004, 06:00:27 PM
True. But it does indicate how retarded the North American market is right now.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 13, 2004, 06:13:49 PM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 13, 2004, 06:38:37 PM
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2004, 07:05:21 PM
Post by: Renny on September 13, 2004, 08:08:16 PM
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on September 13, 2004, 08:13:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Mario
7 out of the top 10 are football games. Gotta catch 'em all!
We Americans love our football!
*puts on helmet and grabs ball*
*growls*
*charges through people football style*
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 14, 2004, 03:45:11 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 14, 2004, 05:52:01 AM
Post by: AMac2002 on September 14, 2004, 07:57:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Renny
While the other three are a movie license, a Tom Clancy game, and a soulless shooter.
:rollseyes: *sigh* whatever...
Post by: Gremio on September 15, 2004, 05:41:29 AM
2 GCN TALES OF SYMPHONIA 67,172 $3,339,223
Hmm. Maybe Tales of Symphonia isn't doing so badly after all.
PS2 XENOSAGA: EPISODE 1
Feb 2003: 114,896
March 2003: 122,969
---------------->237,865
April 2003: 25,466
---------------->263,331
GCN TALES OF SYMPHONIA
July 2004: 118,507
August 2004: 67,172
--------------->185, 679
Post by: Renny on September 15, 2004, 09:03:34 AM
I'm glad we could have this discussion. ;¬]
Post by: Mumei on September 15, 2004, 11:32:28 AM
I do hope the sales numbers start picking up soon, because that is just sad. =/
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 15, 2004, 01:49:46 PM
Halo 2= 9,923,923,234,234
GTA:SA= 9,923,923,234,233
MP2 = 500,000
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 15, 2004, 01:55:47 PM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 15, 2004, 03:46:20 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 15, 2004, 04:02:07 PM
"Only you can prevent consumer stupidity."
Post by: AMac2002 on September 16, 2004, 09:53:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Renny
:emoticon: *onomatopoeia* non-argument...
I'm glad we could have this discussion. ;¬]
Sorry, I'd rather not have another Halo "argument" with a Gamecube fanboy. They're futile...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2004, 12:30:34 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on September 16, 2004, 12:46:17 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2004, 01:08:51 PM
Thank you
Post by: joeamis on September 16, 2004, 04:35:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Mario
AUGUST
HARDWARE
GBA 312,568 $30,308,655
XBX 216,911 $32,202,460
PS2 211,690 $31,869,296
GCN 108,953 $10,840,460
XBX $32,202,460????? TYPE O NEGATIVE... so what's the real #?
Post by: Mario on September 16, 2004, 09:57:58 PM
That's how much money it made, it sold 216,911....
Quote
Originally posted by: AMac2002Quote
Originally posted by: Renny
:emoticon: *onomatopoeia* non-argument...
I'm glad we could have this discussion. ;¬]
Sorry, I'd rather not have another Halo "argument" with a Gamecube fanboy. They're futile...
Yes because everyone who doesn't agree with you is a fanboy.
halo sucks
Post by: DrZoidberg on September 16, 2004, 10:46:49 PM
friendly mod warning to stay on topic
Halol sucks
Post by: KDR_11k on September 17, 2004, 02:23:59 AM
Post by: nolimit19 on September 20, 2004, 03:47:49 PM
Post by: Chongman on September 20, 2004, 05:17:47 PM
It's a general rule that people enjoy killing, maiming, beating, bloody fights, and shooting things in the face.
Where else can you find copious amounts of this but on the xbox? Character? What's that? I want more topless bikers!
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on September 21, 2004, 01:23:34 AM
It's simple. Marketing and public perception.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 21, 2004, 06:37:35 AM
Post by: CHEN on September 21, 2004, 06:45:11 AM
Post by: DrZoidberg on September 21, 2004, 06:48:10 AM
Post by: AMac2002 on September 21, 2004, 06:11:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Or good games
woah woah woah, an open mind? here? i dont think thats allowed...
Post by: joeamis on September 21, 2004, 06:50:42 PM
dvd playback (considerable amount of consumers buy for that)
online (same deal)
and um... 3rd party support
Post by: AMac2002 on September 22, 2004, 11:55:22 AM
Post by: Chongman on September 23, 2004, 03:12:31 AM
At least that's my opinion...but we should probably get back on topic
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 23, 2004, 09:00:37 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 23, 2004, 09:24:16 AM
Post by: Mario on September 23, 2004, 12:25:09 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 23, 2004, 09:56:21 PM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 24, 2004, 09:23:58 AM
Post by: Syl on September 24, 2004, 09:29:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
People feel the need to go through the origional before they tackle the sequel. Like movies, people often go out and rent a prequel before watching the sequel when it comes out.
That, and Halo is what? like $12 new now? (or is it still $20?)
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 25, 2004, 04:44:28 AM
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 26, 2004, 09:21:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Mario
Errr, i'd think Halo 2 would be the reason why Halo is selling as well as it is so far after it's launch.
I understand your reasoning but I'm with KDR_11k. If I know a superior sequel is coming out to an already aged game (granted a high quality "aged" game) I'm gonna skip right over the original and just wait for the sequel. If it's all it's cracked up to be I'll grab the original at it's now super discounted price tag.
Post by: nolimit19 on September 27, 2004, 02:41:06 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on September 27, 2004, 07:59:27 PM
Does it ever to occur to you people that maybe the xbox does have games that appeal to some people? I don't like xbox like many of you do, but that doesn't mean it outright sucks. I know someone who has one and is happy with the games. Good for him. Not everyone likes Nintendo games.
Post by: DrZoidberg on September 27, 2004, 11:17:15 PM
So, I hear this thread is FOR DISCUSSION OF SALES ONLY grrr.
Post by: mantidor on October 01, 2004, 03:56:31 PM
Post by: Mario on October 01, 2004, 06:02:26 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on October 01, 2004, 09:45:00 PM
Post by: Mario on October 19, 2004, 06:19:03 PM
HARDWARE
GBA $42,023,530 - 527,133
XBX $39,379,728 - 265,067
PS2 $38,046,609 - 253,295
GCN $11,387,827 - 114,789
ALL PLATFORMS
1 GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP $21,065,130 684,283
2 XBX FABLE $29,948,580 604,084
3 GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP $17,103,620 556,065
4 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 $14,226,930 288,747
5 XBX SW: BATTLEFRONT $13,395,470 275,186
6 PS2 SW: BATTLEFRONT $12,949,310 267,465
7 PS2 STAR OCEAN: TILL END $11,053,760 222,986
8 PS2 NBA LIVE 2005 $8,106,411 203,322
9 PS2 ESPN NFL 2K5 $3,956,769 203,101
10 PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 $8,297,772 169,657
11 PS2 NASCAR 2005:CHASE CUP $7,129,704 143,611
12 GCN PIKMIN 2 $6,583,169 132,618
13 XBX ESPN NFL 2K5 $2,481,845 128,226
14 XBX BURNOUT 3: TAKEDOWN $6,164,830 124,327
15 GCN WWE DAY OF RECKONING $6,070,188 122,168
GBA
1 POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP $21,065,130 684,283
2 POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP $17,103,620 556,065
3 DRAGONBALL Z: BUU'S $1,752,800 59,085
4 YU-GI-OH! RESHEF $1,288,909 42,417
5 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $1,178,754 40,479
6 MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,177,994 38,906
7 MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $987,152 31,746
8 SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $627,966 31,599
9 TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $331,434 28,711
10 POKEMON RUBY $909,743 27,327
11 NAMCO MUSEUM $392,329 26,996
12 SONIC ADVANCE 3 $771,602 26,224
13 POKEMON SAPPHIRE $861,662 26,151
14 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO $507,598 25,557
15 SHREK 2 $686,001 23,765
GCN
1 PIKMIN 2 $6,583,169 132,618
2 WWE DAY OF RECKONING $6,070,188 122,168
3 DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS $2,053,434 41,932
4 SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $1,091,327 36,422
5 TALES OF SYMPHONIA $1,680,868 33,852
6 MADDEN NFL 2005 $1,658,302 33,441
7 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $631,538 32,454
8 X-MEN: LEGENDS $1,466,533 29,463
9 SPONGEBOB: BATTLE $468,156 23,403
10 MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,108,446 22,374
11 SOUL CALIBUR II $444,007 22,200
12 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $983,515 20,671
13 SONIC ADVENTURE 2 $396,458 19,796
14 TONY HAWK UNDERGROUND $390,054 19,553
15 SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 $381,227 19,198
PS2
1 MADDEN NFL 2005 $14,226,930 288,747
2 SW: BATTLEFRONT $12,949,310 267,465
3 STAR OCEAN: TILL END $11,053,760 222,986
4 NBA LIVE 2005 $8,106,411 203,322
5 ESPN NFL 2K5 $3,956,769 203,101
6 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 $8,297,772 169,657
7 NASCAR 2005:CHASE CUP $7,129,704 143,611
8 SLY 2:BAND OF THIEVES $4,742,280 119,539
9 DEF JAM: FIGHT FOR NY $5,720,625 115,861
10 STREET FIGHTER ANNIV $3,328,188 111,680
11 BURNOUT 3: TAKEDOWN $5,198,917 104,545
12 STREET RACING SYNDCTE $4,840,836 97,316
13 ESPN NHL 2K5 $1,897,349 96,566
14 SHELLSHOCK: NAM '67 $4,774,473 95,837
15 X-MEN: LEGENDS $4,126,100 82,905
XBX
1 FABLE $29,948,580 604,084
2 SW: BATTLEFRONT $13,395,470 275,186
3 ESPN NFL 2K5 $2,481,845 128,226
4 BURNOUT 3: TAKEDOWN $6,164,830 124,327
5 MADDEN NFL 2005 $5,091,888 102,886
6 ESPN NHL 2K5 $1,922,700 97,983
7 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 $4,425,786 90,158
8 HALO $2,609,295 87,529
9 NBA LIVE 2005 $3,266,275 81,958
10 ESPN NBA 2K5 $1,599,382 80,437
11 X-MEN: LEGENDS $3,817,020 76,829
12 STREET RACING SYNDCTE $3,498,198 70,415
13 NASCAR 2005:CHASE CUP $3,467,849 69,852
14 DEF JAM: FIGHT FOR NY $3,314,719 67,136
15 SHELLSHOCK: NAM '67 $2,730,086 54,837
* GBA is doing very well, it's crazy, I find it strange how so many people bought Pokemon Fire Red over Leaf Green though, I thought Leaf Green would sell more because it's "new", I guess people are afraid of new things
* Impressive sales by Xbox, outselling the PS2 for the third month in a row.
* Amazing sales from Fable, I didn't really expect that.
* Terrible GCN sales, it continues to fall way behind.
* Pikmin 2 not doing as well as it should, considering the incredible quality of the game.
* Donkey Konga came out at the end of the month, and word of mouth should help it sell better and better over the next few months, so I wouldn't call it a bomb just yet...
Geez, looking at the sales of those GCN games it almost looks like it's a dead system..
Post by: Chongman on October 19, 2004, 06:51:58 PM
consumer whores...
c'mon nintendo!!!
fable was a let down personally...I mean, good game but way too short and linear...I bet the number if trade ins for it are astounding
Hopefully sales will start to pick up somewhere around thanksgiving
Post by: Mario on October 19, 2004, 08:45:24 PM
Look at some other recently released "big" GC games
- Zelda: Four Swords = disappointing sales
- Wario Ware GC = huge bomb
- MGS: Twin Snakes = bomb
- Pokemon Colloseum = sold pretty good, but its a crap game so it's going to leave a sour taste in peoples mouths and turn them off the GC
Has GC software simply stopped selling? At the GCs low price there is no excuse not to own one. What is going on? It doesn't make sense, i've come to the conclusion it's either
a) People are idiots blinded by hype (example - Fables sales)
or
b) Nintendo really SUCKS at marketing and letting people know the GC even exists. I can't comment on the situation in the US because I don't live there, but that's the main reason it isn't selling well in Australia and the UK.
"What company, right now, is driving category sales? If you said someone other than Nintendo, you're wrong. We have momentum, have had it since late last year; and if you don't feel it yet, you will -- I'll promise you that." -Reggie
Don't break your promise Reggie ;_;
Post by: Deguello on October 19, 2004, 09:17:21 PM
That depresses me to no end.
Post by: Ian Sane on October 19, 2004, 09:44:01 PM
Realistically I think yes it has. The Cube has reached the point of no return regarding public perception. It's a loser console like the N64. It's at a point where no one feels it's problems are going to improve and thus because of that opinion it's not. Think of how the N64 was five years ago in 1999. At that point it's major games just weren't getting same kind of coverage that earlier titles like Mario 64 and Goldeneye got. The hardcore were all that were paying attention anymore and thus game sales weren't as hot. Compare Perfect Dark's sales to Goldeneye's or Majora's Mask's to Ocarina of Time's.
Third party support is getting pretty thin and the gaming media isn't paying as much attention. The PS2 is number one and the Xbox is constantly growing (it's beating monthly PS2 sales now). For Nintendo this gen's console race is over so less people are paying attention. There's always the possibility of some new game causing a phenomenon Pokemon-style but that's a rare occurance.
Pikmin SHOULD in a perfect world be one the most celebrated games this gen due to it's uniqueness and thus the sequel should have been as highly anticipated as the big sequels coming out this November.
"Nintendo really SUCKS at marketing and letting people know the GC even exists."
I'll agree with that. Even if things improve now it's too late. Good marketing was needed in the first year. It wasn't there and the Cube was dug into a hole it can't get out of. Nintendo's best bet right now is to ensure that the last few years of the Cube's life see many classic games, even if most people don't notice them, to keep their fans interested in the Revolution (something Sega failed to do). Then for the Rev they have to completely overhaul their marketing ideas because they're out-of-date and out-of-touch. Good marketing on the Cube from here on in won't really do much but it can't hurt and would give them practice.
And they absolutely must not do what they did with the N64 where they stopped releasing titles for the old system months before the new system arrives. The gap just causes you to fall out of the spotlight. Plus if fans are going to wait for months there's more pressure to deliver at launch. I mean we waited six months or so for Luigi's Mansion? Come on. No wonder the Cube didn't go anywhere.
Post by: Deguello on October 19, 2004, 10:18:04 PM
That's something I don't get. The N64 being very successful (financially) at number 2, is considered a loser. The GC being very successful (financially) at number 2 (worldwide) or 3 or whatever, is considered a loser. Why is the Xbox not considered a loser, being not so successful (again, financially) at number 2 or 3? Do we go easy on rookies or something?
EDIT:
"And they absolutely must not do what they did with the N64 where they stopped releasing titles for the old system months before the new system arrives."
Oh Oh. I wouldn't worry about that. I think they said the Revolution will be backwards compatible, right?
Post by: MaleficentOgre on October 20, 2004, 05:51:50 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 20, 2004, 07:04:05 AM
I think it's because MS has gone up in the industry. Microsoft's market share in the game industry has grown since the Xbox launched. Nintendo however used to be number one and have thus been going DOWN these last few gens. It has to do with people's attitudes as well. Third parties aren't dropping Xbox support like they are with the Cube. Rental stores don't have weak non-existant Xbox selections like they do with the Cube. The mainstream media doesn't ignore the Xbox like they ignore the Cube.
I think the perception is to not be considered a failure you either have to be number 1 in units sold or look like you could seriously challenge for that title.
Post by: Deguello on October 20, 2004, 07:57:45 AM
The myth is that the market can support 3 formats. It can't. 2 of the 3 formats are succesful, leaving a third that is costing its company billions. That 3rd was the Saturn, The Dreamcast and the Xbox.
"Third parties aren't dropping Xbox support like they are with the Cube."
They would drop the Xbox too if Microsoft were not subsidizing their potential failures.
"I think the perception is to not be considered a failure you either have to be number 1 in units sold or look like you could seriously challenge for that title. "
I hope you don't think Microsoft can seriously challenge Sony. The only reason the Xbox has been above the Ps2 these past few months is because the Ps2 has hit market saturation.
To Me, the only way Nintendo could ever be the top again is to come back in exactly the same fashion as they went down. Some times the only way to succeed is to rely on the misfortunes of your rivals. Sony is going to have to screw up. And with their attitude towards the PSP, it looks like that will come any day now. But really, I don't care. I'm enjoying the ride and the good games. My only concern is that Nintendo should be making a profit on all current ventures, and they are. So I'm good. Pikmin2 isn't outselling Madden? Don't care. Sony and Xbox "Hip"? Big deal. Media outlets like oh... MSNBC favor MS and Sony? Couldn't care less. All Nintendo has to do for me is exist.
Oh and it seems like the Gameboy is tooling both of Nintendo's competitors combined.
Post by: Ian Sane on October 20, 2004, 08:08:03 AM
I don't but I think others do. Not like this gen but in the future. Nintendo doesn't have that potential in most people's eyes. They just make too many blunders.
Another way to think of it may be the hopes fans had going in and whether or not they were accurate.
PS2: Fans assumed Sony would hold onto the lead. They were right.
Xbox: Fans went in assuming that the Xbox would gain in popularity and Microsoft would carve out their own chunk of the market. They were right.
Gamecube: Fans assumed that the N64's "failure" was a fluke and now that Nintendo was using optical discs and had companies like Rare, Silicon Knights, and Retro Studios working on more mature content that Nintendo would learn from their past mistakes and would become a serious threat again on route to someday reclaiming their top spot in the later generations to come. They were wrong.
The Xbox did better than people expected and the Cube did worse. So that's why the Cube is seen as a failure.
Post by: mantidor on October 20, 2004, 08:13:48 AM
Post by: cubiot on October 20, 2004, 08:28:32 AM
Yes, It can, and probably will challenge Sony in the next generation.
I honestly see nintendo becoming a sold only in Japan console maker at some point.
AS for Fable. It is a very good game, just way to short. I didnt mind paper mario either, except I dont like the battle system at all. I find turn based systems a chore.
Post by: Deguello on October 20, 2004, 08:40:46 AM
And no mantidor, MS themselves pretty much confirmed that they will not make a profit on the Xbox. So it was a foot-in-the-door exercise that can be interpreted as a shameless power grab.
EDIT: "I honestly see nintendo becoming a sold only in Japan console maker at some point."
That's uhhh... That's a pretty dumb and ill-informed prediction. Why do you think that way? When Nintendo makes oodles of cash in the North American market?
Post by: Ian Sane on October 20, 2004, 09:07:05 AM
Sure it did. When the Xbox launched there were already fansites like TeamXbox. The fanbase's fandom was based on nothing really since there was no product yet but there were fans even if it made no sense to be one for a completely unproven console.
Post by: Deguello on October 20, 2004, 09:23:42 AM
Post by: cubiot on October 20, 2004, 09:25:35 AM
That's uhhh... That's a pretty dumb and ill-informed prediction. Why do you think that way? When Nintendo makes oodles of cash in the North American market? "
I think that way because of declining sales numbers in North America each of the last two generations for Nintendo. If sales continue to decline, the "oodles" of cash as you call it will follow suit. I also wonder just how much of Nintendo's NA profit comes from the GBA versus the cube (consoles). I would guess that the GBA accounts for the bulk of NA profits.
I would also like to comment and ask a few questions on the x-box live issue.
Why do you think the service wont be there later?
AS for history. I believe that many people who play games on live, myself included, dont expect a game to have a lot of longevity. The games I play on live, I play often. Once they are done, or I have lost interest in them I move on. I rarely ever go back to those games. I dont look at this as a problem because I expect it going in. I simply trade games in a lot.
As for people being denied service. I am not sure I get what you are saying. IS it because the service isnt free?
Again I believe many people who use LIVE, know all this before they make the commitment. From the people I play with and talk to, we seem to have very little, if any complaints at all.
Post by: couchmonkey on October 20, 2004, 09:32:04 AM
I think Nintendo really failed at marketing Pikmin 2. I didn't see a single ad for it, while I can hardly escape the freaking Fable ads. I have a friend who owns all three consoles, and guess which game he wants? Not Pikmin 2. It seems like Nintendo's marketing for GameCube has been even weaker than usual lately: I've been seeing a few GBA ads, but Sunday during the Simpsons marked the first time I had seen a GCN ad in about a month.
Post by: Rhoq on October 20, 2004, 10:21:33 AM
Nintendo lacks consistancy and it's a shame. I love the 'Cube, but Nintendo really messed-up this generation - especially by allowing the 3rd party developers to just up and leave without at least trying to persuade to continue support.
Post by: soundwave5 on October 20, 2004, 10:36:40 AM
600k for Fable in one month are blockbuster numbers, Halo 2 is going to be huge. Star Wars Battlefront sold more on the XBox than the PS2 according to the NPD. The thing about the XBox is software sales are very high. They're waaaay up from last year.
The problem with GameCube is software sales are low overall. Not just for Pikmin 2, but the platform as a whole. GCN owners just do not buy as many games per user as the PS2/XBox do, which makes the GCN seem more like a niche platform. The other problem is, the bulk of GCN software sales are Nintendo games, so you can't really hold it against third parties for not supporting the system as much. Not only do GCN owners not buy as many games, but when they do, it tends to be Nintendo-published stuff.
I think Nintendo is more focused on the DS being successful (and it should be) this holiday. It's important at this point that Nintendo not show any weaknesses in the portable sector. The GBA SP is tearing up the charts. The GameCube, honestly I think is a system that's just treading water at this point. Nintendo gave it a good shot, they just got caught with not enough of the types of games people want nowadays and made far too many mistakes to seriously contend.
I think you will see Nintendo in the future becoming a different kind of company, perhaps expanding more into an anime/entertainment company. You can kind of see them leaning this way already with the investment in Bandai, the seperation of Pokemon into its own company (handles merchandising, Pokemon retail outlets, etc.), and Yamauchi pushing the company into feature film animation.
The thing is the next generation console race is probably going to be even tougher than this one was. Sony and Microsoft are probably going to pull out all the stops to beat each other, it's just not going to get any easier. There's definitely a chance even if Revolution is well designed and corrects many of the mistakes made with the GCN (as the GCN corrected many of the N64 errors), that Nintendo may still continue to lose ground in the console market.
Post by: Mario on October 20, 2004, 05:27:35 PM
Quote
The only reason the Xbox has been above the Ps2 these past few months is because the Ps2 has hit market saturation.
I disagree, there has been reports of shortages of PS2s the past few months because Sony want to get rid of them all so they can replace it with PSTwo. PSTwo + GTA SA should send PS2 sales soaring back up again to maybe even double Xboxs. And about the market saturation point, PS2 still hasn't even outsold the PSX and I believe it's got a long way to go still.
And someone asked for lifetime SSBM sales vs lifetime Halo sales in another thread that was locked, well here's Halos compared to every Nintendo published GC titles lifetime sales
Halo: 3,616,009
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,438,729
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,686,033
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,575,109
The Wind Waker: 1,496,631
Luigi's Mansion: 1,467,320
Metroid Prime: 1,195,256
Mario Party 4: 946,582
Animal Crossing: 779,227
Star Fox Adventures: 776,397
Mario Party 5: 750,387
Pokemon Colosseum: 669,294
Pikmin: 654,353
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 389,802
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 373,623
Wave Race: 325,645
Kirby Air Ride: 288,918
Eternal Darkness: 273,703
Four Swords Adventures: 252,461
F-Zero GX: 252,354
Wario World: 223,664
Preview Disk: 170,513
NBA Courtside 2002: 157,754
Pokemon Channel: 152,798
Custom Robo: 138,456
Pikmin 2: 132,618
Magical Mirror: 114,085
Wario Ware Inc: 87,633
1080 Avalanche: 87,031
Donkey Konga: 41,932
And here are some examples of games that sold better on GC:
Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 169,505
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 162,677
Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 12,473
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 9,346
Viewtiful Joe (GC): 260,986
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 32,690
Soul Calibur (GC): 687,141
Soul Calibur (PS2): 630,213
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 447,105
If anyone has any requests i'll post the numbers.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2004, 06:19:22 PM
Post by: Mario on October 20, 2004, 06:32:02 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2004, 06:53:37 PM
Post by: nolimit19 on October 20, 2004, 08:40:09 PM
Post by: Deguello on October 20, 2004, 10:41:02 PM
Trust me it would have to decline a whole hell of a lot before Nintendo starts losing money. Despite media and fan blathering, the GameCube is still a successful venture. Nintendo makes money on it, the Gamecube. It's just not as successful as it could have been.
"Why do you think the service wont be there later?"
Because the service for the Dreamcast isn't here now. I highly doubt MS will keep Xbox Live up in the next generation, especially since there are all defensive about backwards compatibility, since it is such a drain on their revenue.
"AS for history. I believe that many people who play games on live, myself included, dont expect a game to have a lot of longevity. The games I play on live, I play often. Once they are done, or I have lost interest in them I move on. I rarely ever go back to those games. I dont look at this as a problem because I expect it going in. I simply trade games in a lot."
Well, that's a difference of opinion. If a game is really really good, I never lose interest.
"As for people being denied service. I am not sure I get what you are saying. IS it because the service isnt free?
Again I believe many people who use LIVE, know all this before they make the commitment. From the people I play with and talk to, we seem to have very little, if any complaints at all."
Denied as in it is broadband-only and I have 56k. This may come as a shock to you but not everybody in the world has access to broadband.
Post by: cubiot on October 21, 2004, 07:12:55 AM
Do you have any numbers to back this up?
Do you know what percentage of Nintendo's profits come from the gamecube sales, versus the GBA?
I am also curious as to what percentage of profit comes from software. This is strictly hypothetical but what If Nintendo were to go third party, and sell profitable software on the the PS2, would they be further ahead.?
"Because the service for the Dreamcast isn't here now. I highly doubt MS will keep Xbox Live up in the next generation, especially since there are all defensive about backwards compatibility, since it is such a drain on their revenue."
Again, this is purely speculation on your part, and we know how you hate speculation when it comes to Nintendo. I also dont see the dreamcast reference as relevent at all. The X-box is already much more a success that the dreamcast.
"Denied as in it is broadband-only and I have 56k. This may come as a shock to you but not everybody in the world has access to broadband. "
Why would anyone want to play online with a slow connection anyways?
I really don't believe that 56k users are the target market, simple as that.
The x-box wants to be the machine with the most tech, or at least the most percieved tech. Catering to 56k modem users just doesn't fit the profile.
Post by: soundwave5 on October 21, 2004, 07:18:59 AM
MSN for Microsoft was unprofitable for 8 straight years until it finally turned a profit last year, but MS never pulled the plug. The fact is they make such ridiculous profits off their software division, that losses like that honestly are just PR embarrassments more than anything else.
I think online gaming is a niche right now, but it's a growing niche. By next generation it will become more mainstream and probably even able to generate profit. I suspect Nintendo is also working on an online solution for the Revolution.
Post by: couchmonkey on October 21, 2004, 07:48:14 AM
I'm sure a few games like Mario Kart would sell just as well or even better on the PS2, but, looking at Sega, going third party has not been a big success. Looking back to an earlier part of this thread, Sonic Adventure 2 is the only game that has come close to selling a million copies in America since Sega ditched the Dreamcast. I don't know how that compares to the Dreamcast sales, but it's not that great in general.
Now, having said that, I think Sega's strategy for going third-party was pretty bad. Nintendo could probably do better, but I still think it's smart to ask if PS2 or Xbox owners will buy as many Nintendo games as Nintendo owners do. Not to mention lost profits from hardware accessories like Wavebirds and memory cards.
Post by: vudu on October 21, 2004, 09:51:28 AM
I'm also really surprised by the really low Viewtiful Joe sales on PS2. I even saw some commercials for the game, which I never saw when the GC version came out. I know this is the North American Sales Thread, but does anyone know how well the game sold in Japan vs. the GC counterpart?
Mario, I'd be interested in seeing the sales figures for Xbox's other top sellers. I'm sure there's nowhere near as high as Halo's, but I wonder just how big they are.
Post by: ruby_onix on October 21, 2004, 02:19:58 PM
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Do you have any numbers to back this up?
Do you know what percentage of Nintendo's profits come from the gamecube sales, versus the GBA?
Here's a general rule of thumb.
The most recent "installed base" and "tie ratio" numbers mentioned in this thread (from July) are:
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 24,433,000
Xbox: 9,367,000
GCN: 7,672,000
GBA: 22,579,000
LTD Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.52
Xbox: 7.01
GCN: 6.68
GBA: 3.67
On a modern console game, the hardware maker earns about $10 from royalties. I think the GBA earns less than that, and "greatest hits" titles also earn less, but $10 is just a convenient ballpark number.
So looking at the tie ratios, Sony has made $85 on every PS2. But Sony typically sells their hardware (both PSone and PS2) at roughly a $50 loss (Sony will never give us an exact number on that, but it's "heavily rumored"). So Sony has essentially only made $35 on every PS2.
Microsoft has made $70 per-XBox in royalties, but they're said to lose $100 on the hardware, so they're down $30 for every XBox.
Nintendo has said that at the time of price drops, they lose "single digit" (less that $10) money on the hardware. The rest of the time, they're making small amounts of money on it, so lets just say they're breaking even. So Nintendo makes $67 on each GameCube.
The GBA (like the Cube and the N64) isn't sold at a loss, so it gets $37.
So, multiplied by the "installed base" numbers, the PS2 has earned $855 million in America. The XBox has lost $281 million. The GameCube has earned $514 million. And the GBA has earned $835 million.
These are clearly rough numbers, but you can see how Nintendo earns a fortune on their console hardware, and how the handheld market (although earning Nintendo another fortune) is not as "lucrative" as everyone seems to think, right?
About a year or two ago, Rick Powers got his hands on a detailed financial rundown, and he couldn't tell us the specifics (because the report costs several thousand dollars), but he said that (on a purely "hardware" level) the GBA and PS2 were earning roughly the same amount of money, and that the GameCube was earning more than either of them.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 21, 2004, 02:35:19 PM
Resident Evil Zero?
Post by: DEO3 on October 21, 2004, 06:22:20 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onixQuote
Do you have any numbers to back this up?
Do you know what percentage of Nintendo's profits come from the gamecube sales, versus the GBA?
Here's a general rule of thumb.
The most recent "installed base" and "tie ratio" numbers mentioned in this thread (from July) are:
Cumulative Installed Base
PS2: 24,433,000
Xbox: 9,367,000
GCN: 7,672,000
GBA: 22,579,000
LTD Tie Ratios
PS2: 8.52
Xbox: 7.01
GCN: 6.68
GBA: 3.67
On a modern console game, the hardware maker earns about $10 from royalties. I think the GBA earns less than that, and "greatest hits" titles also earn less, but $10 is just a convenient ballpark number.
So looking at the tie ratios, Sony has made $85 on every PS2. But Sony typically sells their hardware (both PSone and PS2) at roughly a $50 loss (Sony will never give us an exact number on that, but it's "heavily rumored"). So Sony has essentially only made $35 on every PS2.
Microsoft has made $70 per-XBox in royalties, but they're said to lose $100 on the hardware, so they're down $30 for every XBox.
Nintendo has said that at the time of price drops, they lose "single digit" (less that $10) money on the hardware. The rest of the time, they're making small amounts of money on it, so lets just say they're breaking even. So Nintendo makes $67 on each GameCube.
The GBA (like the Cube and the N64) isn't sold at a loss, so it gets $37.
So, multiplied by the "installed base" numbers, the PS2 has earned $855 million in America. The XBox has lost $281 million. The GameCube has earned $514 million. And the GBA has earned $835 million.
These are clearly rough numbers, but you can see how Nintendo earns a fortune on their console hardware, and how the handheld market (although earning Nintendo another fortune) is not as "lucrative" as everyone seems to think, right?
About a year or two ago, Rick Powers got his hands on a detailed financial rundown, and he couldn't tell us the specifics (because the report costs several thousand dollars), but he said that (on a purely "hardware" level) the GBA and PS2 were earning roughly the same amount of money, and that the GameCube was earning more than either of them.
Wow, I never knew before that Sony and Nintendo sold thier systems at a loss as well, and that they simply make back the money they lose on the hardware by collecting royalties on games. In that case Nintendo must do very well, since something like seven of the top ten best sellers on the Gamecube were developed in house at Nintendo (meaning they make a lot more than just $10 on each of those games sold).
Post by: Deguello on October 21, 2004, 08:58:11 PM
It's a logical assumption. If you are confused, I mean the Xbox Live Service for the Xbox. If they continue it in some form for the XboXenonDoomsday whatever (I'm sure they'll try to make a profit next time) great. But That's not what I am saying. trust me, 6 months after the Xbox2's debut, Xbox Live will be shut down. What would be their reason to keep it up? And as soon as they do, some of their supposed best games will become instantly broken, since online features are such a core factor.
"Why would anyone want to play online with a slow connection anyways?
I really don't believe that 56k users are the target market, simple as that.
The x-box wants to be the machine with the most tech, or at least the most percieved tech. Catering to 56k modem users just doesn't fit the profile."
Why anyone would want to is immaterial. The simple fact is they, at least from my perspective, are blowing billions into a feature that most people can't even use. You asked how I could be denied. I am being denied for 2 reasons. A) they charge for the service, and I'm not too keen on paying for a game I already bought, and B) Their service is broadband only, which means even if I wanted to pay for it, I can't.
Post by: Rancid Planet on October 21, 2004, 09:01:15 PM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
I'm also really surprised by the really low Viewtiful Joe sales on PS2.
I was just in a conversation about that in another forum not too long ago. I'll add something here that I forgot to mention there.
The VJ sales on the PS2 should have been expected to be low. Sure it was a great game but several people that own a GCN also own a PS2 so they probably already had the game for the cube to start with and were just like me...pissed at the PS2 version's extra features.
Heck, VJ was probably a favorite among those who have both a PS2 AND GCN. My reasoning being that anyone who owns a PS2 alongside a GCN more than likely isn't one of those fanboys of Nintendo who only buy the first party stuff. (Hence, helping to kill off the system they claim to love so much. Show some 3rd party love people!) So they probably recognized that VJ would be a great game back when it was an exclusive to the cube and picked it up.
Post by: Mario on October 21, 2004, 09:19:36 PM
HALO - 3,616,009
Splinter Cell - 1,462,813
Project Gotham Racing - 1,179,664
Grand Theft Auto Double Pack - 1,129,738
Ghost Recon - 950,939
Dead Or Alive 3 - 871,642
Star Wars: Knights of the old Republic - 799,464
Rainbow Six 3 - 679,851
Mech Assualt - 650,041
Fable - 604,084
NFL Fever 2002 - 588,939
Amped: Snowboarding - 539,372
Fusion Frenzy - 521,558
Ninja Gaiden - 500,450
Splinter Cell: Pandora - 476,912
Brute Force - 463,295
Project GOtham Racing 2 - 417,194
Oddworld: Munch - 409,065
Counter Strike - 376,056
Crimson Skies - 354,650
Also, for Professional:
Resident Evil Zero: 423,489
Resident Evil: 467,300
Resident Evil 2: 35,613
Resident Evil 3: 48,318
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 32,079
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 21, 2004, 11:28:52 PM
Post by: Mario on October 22, 2004, 12:17:59 AM
Post by: cubiot on October 22, 2004, 02:47:44 AM
Who cares. 99% of x-box users won't give a darn by that point because they will be playing x-box 2 games on the new service. I haven't touched my N64 sice the day I recieved my cube, and I believe the same scenerio will apply here.
You keep assuming that most x-box users are similar to yourself, when in reality there core gamer market is much different than you (from what I can tell, no offence) and the typical Nintendo gamer.
"Why anyone would want to is immaterial. The simple fact is they, at least from my perspective, are blowing billions into a feature that most people can't even use."
Again, I really don't think this concers them. They are after a certain type of gamer,. If they wanted to set up the system for 56k they easily could have, they chose not to.
"You asked how I could be denied. I am being denied for 2 reasons. A) they charge for the service, and I'm not too keen on paying for a game I already bought, and B) Their service is broadband only, which means even if I wanted to pay for it, I can't. "
this is not the same as being denied. You simply have made the choice not to use the service. When the next Nintendo console comes out, you will:
1) have to pay for it
2) go to a store to get it
So if your local wallmart doesn't have it and you have no money are you being denied as well?
"It's a logical assumption. If you are confused"
Are you not a moderator? Can you please try to refrain from attempts at belittling me when I disagree with you. Lets keep this civil. Thanks.
Post by: Mario on October 22, 2004, 03:12:36 AM
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I haven't touched my N64 sice the day I recieved my cube
Really? Did your N64 games magically become less fun? I don't really understand that.. I have my N64 sitting next to my GCN and I play it at least once a week.
Post by: Deguello on October 22, 2004, 03:41:19 AM
Yes It IS the same. I cannot choose at all concerning Xbox Live. I don't have broadband. I cannot GET Broadband. I HAVE NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER. If I wanted it I would be denied.
"When the next Nintendo console comes out, you will:
1) have to pay for it
2) go to a store to get it
So if your local wallmart doesn't have it and you have no money are you being denied as well?"
Flawed analogy. The Console is a product, not a service. Even if my local store doesn't have it, I have other options, like having it shipped or *SHOCK* going to another store. I have no options with xbox Live. And if I wanted it, I would be told I cannot use it., since they don't let people with 56k on it. you can claim that they are "targeting" someone else. But If I wanted it, I would be turned down.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 22, 2004, 09:45:59 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on October 22, 2004, 10:31:11 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on October 22, 2004, 11:17:36 PM
If you don't have a "good" connection to someone, that person simply doesn't exist to you, and you don't exist to them.
(I don't have XBox Live or anything, but that's just how I heard it worked. So don't blame me if I'm wrong.)
Post by: cubiot on October 23, 2004, 04:46:26 AM
Why comment on something you don't have then? I have never had a problem on live with connection.
Post by: Renny on October 23, 2004, 06:40:13 AM
I've had some problems though. Sometimes the connection to a host just goes bad during a game. Such is cable internet....
Post by: KDR_11k on October 23, 2004, 10:14:43 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 23, 2004, 10:47:35 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
In german if something is transparent the user can see under its hood and if something is opaque it hides its internals from the users. Always takes me a few secs to realize it's the other way around in english.
From my understanding, that's how it is supposed to be in English as well. I'm not aware of any context where they're reversed.
Post by: AMac2002 on October 23, 2004, 08:02:43 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim Also online only games have a major flaw that I don't like, you have to be online to play, you can't play offline, I mean just look at the new PStwo, you can't even play Final Fantasy XI on it because the HDD isn't compatible with the system, and that is an online only game.
Well, it's not really a flaw, it's essential to the game, it's not just some random whim the developers got. The point is that everyone is a real person. They're not intending to block out people, it's just the way the game is supposed to be played.
Post by: AMac2002 on October 23, 2004, 08:03:49 PM
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Originally posted by: cubiot
"(I don't have XBox Live or anything, but that's just how I heard it worked. So don't blame me if I'm wrong.)"
Why comment on something you don't have then? I have never had a problem on live with connection.
Same here, I've never been randomly kicked off Xbox Live...
Post by: KDR_11k on October 23, 2004, 09:10:16 PM
Post by: GaimeGuy on October 23, 2004, 09:44:49 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the N64 sell something like 20 million in North America? The markets that it didn't do so well in were Japan and Europe, from my understanding
Post by: ruby_onix on October 23, 2004, 10:44:36 PM
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Originally posted by: AMac2002Quote
Originally posted by: cubiot
"(I don't have XBox Live or anything, but that's just how I heard it worked. So don't blame me if I'm wrong.)"
Why comment on something you don't have then? I have never had a problem on live with connection.
Same here, I've never been randomly kicked off Xbox Live...
I'm guessing that you're not trying to "trick" your way into meeting the "broadband" requirements of XBox Live by connecting your XBox to a 56k modem by way of a router, now are you?
That is what I was talking about (even though it's been straying off the topic of "sales figures" for a while now).
AFAIK (again, I'm not an expert, but I haven't seen anyone say this isn't true, except for some people who are oddly offended by it) this is how it works. Let's say you have two broadband providers in your area. And you move up from the crappy one to the good one. You may find that there are suddenly twice as many people playing XBox Live. And the other way around, if you switch from the good ISP to the sucky one, you may find that there are apparently half as many people online.
It's because XBox Live demands good connections, so if you have crappy broadband, it may essentially boot you from the system (just a little bit), restrict you to playing with a few of your nearby neighbors, and basically tell you (or rather, "not tell you") that good chunk of the world doesn't exist. It's probably even set up to be more restrictive on the initial logon than it needs to be, so that it wouldn't normally have to boot you from any active games. You don't notice, because Microsoft sees no reason to tell you about it.
If you tried to sneak on with a 56k, it'd probably drop you into a little "bubble" world, so far outside the view of the other happy XBox Live customers, you'd be the only person in existence.
Post by: KDR_11k on October 24, 2004, 06:26:16 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 24, 2004, 06:57:37 AM
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Originally posted by: AMac2002Quote
Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim Also online only games have a major flaw that I don't like, you have to be online to play, you can't play offline, I mean just look at the new PStwo, you can't even play Final Fantasy XI on it because the HDD isn't compatible with the system, and that is an online only game.
Well, it's not really a flaw, it's essential to the game, it's not just some random whim the developers got. The point is that everyone is a real person. They're not intending to block out people, it's just the way the game is supposed to be played.
It's not an intentional flaw, no, but if I spend 50 dollars on a game, I want to be able to play it when I want to play it, not when the servers or whatever allow. Besides, why should I spend 50 dollars for a game, or 100 for Final Fantasy XI for PS2, that in five year I might not be able to play because 1) my PS2 will most likely break and I will have to get a new one, and the only model I can get is the PStwo which does not support the HDD making FFXI a completely useless game, and/or 2) Square-Enix shuts down the servers thus making the game completely useless and unplayable because the game can only be played on line. It can not be that difficult for developers to add a simple offline mode that can make their game playable even after servers are shut down or server hiccups, like when FFXI launched in Japan and all the hell that happened.
Post by: KDR_11k on October 24, 2004, 07:55:24 AM
Post by: DrZoidberg on October 24, 2004, 03:33:09 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2004, 04:01:45 PM
Post by: Renny on October 25, 2004, 12:05:44 PM
Look at the 'jargon' entry
Bunny-hopping is an ultra-realistic military tactic. They teach it in MOUT.
Post by: AMac2002 on October 25, 2004, 04:12:53 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheimQuote
Originally posted by: AMac2002Quote
Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim Also online only games have a major flaw that I don't like, you have to be online to play, you can't play offline, I mean just look at the new PStwo, you can't even play Final Fantasy XI on it because the HDD isn't compatible with the system, and that is an online only game.
Well, it's not really a flaw, it's essential to the game, it's not just some random whim the developers got. The point is that everyone is a real person. They're not intending to block out people, it's just the way the game is supposed to be played.
It's not an intentional flaw, no, but if I spend 50 dollars on a game, I want to be able to play it when I want to play it, not when the servers or whatever allow. Besides, why should I spend 50 dollars for a game, or 100 for Final Fantasy XI for PS2, that in five year I might not be able to play because 1) my PS2 will most likely break and I will have to get a new one, and the only model I can get is the PStwo which does not support the HDD making FFXI a completely useless game, and/or 2) Square-Enix shuts down the servers thus making the game completely useless and unplayable because the game can only be played on line. It can not be that difficult for developers to add a simple offline mode that can make their game playable even after servers are shut down or server hiccups, like when FFXI launched in Japan and all the hell that happened.
Hey man, I'm with ya, I definetly wouldn't down my money for that, I was just saying it sounded like you that it was an unintentional flaw. No, I agree, I'm not gonna put down my money for that stuff.
Post by: Mario on November 12, 2004, 05:10:25 AM
October 2004 Hardware Sales
PS2: 289,000
Xbox: 217,000
GCN: 110,000
GBA: 464,000
Top 25 Software Titles
Rank/Title/Publisher
1 PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS Take 2 Interactive
2 PS2 NBA LIVE 2005 Electronic Arts
3 PS2 MORTAL KOMBAT: DECEPTN Midway
4 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 Activision
5 XBX MORTAL KOMBAT: DECEPTN Midway
6 GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND Nintendo
7 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 Electronic Arts
8 PS2 X-MEN: LEGENDS Activision
9 PS2 SW: BATTLEFRONT LucasArts
10 XBX FABLE Microsoft
11 XBX SW: BATTLEFRONT LucasArts
12 XBX NBA LIVE 2005 Electronic Arts
13 XBX X-MEN: LEGENDS Activision
14 XBX TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 Activision
15 PS2 ESPN NBA 2K5 Take 2 Interactive
16 PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 Electronic Arts
17 GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP Nintendo
18 PS2 FIFA SOCCER 2005 Electronic Arts
19 GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP Nintendo
20 PS2 DEF JAM: FIGHT FOR NY Electronic Arts
21 XBX ESPN NBA 2K5 Take 2 Interactive
22 GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS Nintendo
23 XBX MADDEN NFL 2005 Electronic Arts
24 PS2 ACE COMBAT 5: UNSUNG Namco
25 XBX TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 Electronic Arts
PS2
1 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS Take-Two Interactive - 2,053,983
2 NBA LIVE 2005 Electronic Arts - 347,594
3 MORTAL KOMBAT: DECEPTN Midway Games - 261,022
4 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 Activision - 245,461
5 MADDEN NFL 2005 Electronic Arts - 178,187
Xbox
1 MORTAL KOMBAT: DECEPTN Midway Games - 218,023
2 FABLE Microsoft - 116,001
3 SW: BATTLEFRONT LucasArts - 112,352
4 NBA LIVE 2005 Electronic Arts - 138,237
5 X-MEN: LEGENDS Activision - 107,761
GC
1 PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND Nintendo - 189,703
2 DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS Nintendo- 72,051
3 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 Activision - 50,491
4 X-MEN: LEGENDS Activision - 43,703
5 NBA LIVE 2005 Electronic Arts - 36,629
GBA
1 POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP Nintendo - 142,514
2 POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP Nintendo - 129,665
3 SHARK TALE Activision - 85,720
4 MARIO PINBALL LAND Nintendo - 69,149
5 KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR Nintendo - 55,979
Only the numbers of the top five are available now for some reason, i'll edit the rest in later.
Post by: Deguello on November 12, 2004, 10:08:49 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on November 13, 2004, 01:15:14 PM
Post by: mjbd on November 14, 2004, 06:03:13 AM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 14, 2004, 09:34:31 AM
Post by: Renny on November 14, 2004, 09:41:20 AM
C'est la vie. Viva la Revolution! And such.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 14, 2004, 09:56:02 AM
Which is why I'm glad my country has a 2 year mandatory warranty if you can prove the defect was already there when you bought it. With Sony that should be easy.
Post by: couchmonkey on November 15, 2004, 05:26:49 AM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 15, 2004, 07:55:16 AM
Post by: Hova on November 15, 2004, 10:30:22 AM
Post by: odifiend on November 15, 2004, 11:08:49 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I think Paper Mario sales should have been much higher, but Nintendo didn't seem to hype the game that much.
Yeah, I'm actually suprised that Paper Mario did that well. I haven't played it yet, but i can say it is pretty low on my priority list.
Post by: mjbd on November 16, 2004, 02:18:20 PM
Post by: Mario on December 09, 2004, 02:42:23 PM
Rank/Title/Revenue/Unit Sales
1 XBX HALO 2 / $87,669,050/ 1,777,697
2 XBX HALO 2 LIMITED ED / $81,269,580 / 1,489,406
3 PS2 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS / $76,126,580 / 1,536,301
4 PS2 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 / $21,155,680 / 427,724
5 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW / $17,734,720 / 361,544
6 PS2 METAL GEAR3:SNAKE EAT / $14,379,330 / 290,376
7 XBX NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 / $11,319,100 / 229,611
8 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 / $10,411,060 / 334,824
9 GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO / $9,483,345 / 192,332
10 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI3 / $8,449,652 / 178,034
11 PS2 RATCHET & CLANK: UP / $8,191,299 / 207,518
12 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 / $7,737,766 / 168,201
13 PS2 JAK 3 / $7,006,415 / 177,335
14 GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND /$6,699,387 / 143,399
15 PS2 CALL OF DUTY: FINEST / $6,683,578 / 135,234
16 PS2 NBA LIVE 2005 / $6,062,586 / 187,346
17 PS2 KILLZONE / $5,388,861 / 109,297
18 PS2 ACE COMBAT 5: UNSUNG / $5,340,555 / 111,493
19 GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS / $4,824,762 / 98,100
20 XBX T.CLANCY GHOST RECON2 / $4,787,044 / 96,224
Hardware
GBA: 1,100,000
XBX: 708,000
PS2: 694,000
NDS: 479,000
NGC: 350,000
More numbers coming soon...
Post by: zelos_rules on December 09, 2004, 02:54:36 PM
Post by: Mario on December 09, 2004, 03:09:03 PM
I'm slowly getting more software numbers...
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Call of Duty: Finest Hour
PS2 - 135,234
XBX - 75,529
GCN - 17,267
Need for Speed Underground 2
PS2 - 427,724
XBX - 229,611
GCN - 58,000
Tony Hawk Underground 2
PS2 - 168,000
GBA - 74,000
XBX - 47,000
GCN - 40,000
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Year over year percentages
PS2: -18.3
XBX: +44.2
GCN: -53.6%
GBA: -16.9%
DS: +Undefined%
Consoles down 16.3% year over year.
Portable sales up 19.35%.
Console+Portable unit sales down 2.5%.
Xbox's lead over GCN increases to 2.46 million, or 29.4%.
PS2's lead over GBA decreases to 711K, or 2.8%.
Lifetime console share for PS2/XBX/GCN goes from 58.13/23.36/18.51 to 57.41/24.03/18.57.
Nintendo's share of monthly hardware sales among the three systems was 57.91%, bringing their share of total hardware sales among the current five to 48.1%.
Nintendo's share of the revenue of monthly hardware sales (using MSRP for all) is 48.1%.
Looking for DS software numbers and more GC numbers....
Post by: mantidor on December 09, 2004, 03:28:09 PM
Post by: Mario on December 09, 2004, 03:45:15 PM
Can I post Japanese sales in here too? Or just this once because NDS just launched there.
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Media Create Software Sales: 29 Nov - 5 Dec
platform - title - publisher - this week - total
1 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himigime Square Enix 476,281 - 2,643,353
2 DS Super Mario 64 DS Nintendo 151,373 new
3 DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo 148,825 new
4 DS Pokemon Dash Pokemon 56,337 new
5 DS Daigasso! Band Brothers Nintendo 33,911 new
6 GBA Power Pro Kun Pocket 7 Konami 30,410 new
7 GC Mario Party 6 Nintendo 29,959 178,352
8 DS Kime no Tame Nara Kimi Shineru (Feel the Magic) Sega 27,250 new
9 DS Chokkan Hitofude (One Line Puzzle) Nintendo 25,415 new
10 GC NARUTO: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 3 Tomy 22,799 - 183,834
Media Create Hardware Sales: 29 Nov - 5 Dec
platform this week - last week - 2004 total
1 Nintendo DS 468,883 new 468,883
2 PlayStation 2 93,829 - 108,148 - 2,292,239
3 GameBoy Advance SP 27,313 - 31,198 - 2,211,510
4 Gamecube 5,465 - 6,107 - 533,178
5 Gameboy Advance 822 785 - 191,981
6 Xbox 621 - 669 - 35,495
7 Swan Crystal 44 - 38 - 7,274
8 PSone 40 - 30 - 13,864
Nintendo DS was only out for 3 days too, Nintendo has 9 out of the top 10 games.
Post by: mjbd on December 09, 2004, 04:46:35 PM
Post by: Mario on December 09, 2004, 04:54:36 PM
But really, looking at the GBA and DS sales, Nintendo are in one of the best positions they've ever been in, I just hope they work harder to try and revive interest in their home consoles.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2004, 05:12:43 PM
Post by: mantidor on December 09, 2004, 05:24:18 PM
Post by: God Speaks on December 09, 2004, 08:02:58 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on December 10, 2004, 12:50:01 AM
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Can I post Japanese sales in here too?
We used to have a Japanese sales thread, but it died from lack of interest a very long time ago. I think the more detailed "weekly" nature of the Japanese reports makes it harder to keep anyone's attention (I know that I even get bored with the monthly NPD numbers sometimes).
I would say that yeah, Japanese numbers are welcome in this thread. It mixes things up a bit, and keeps it interesting. Does anyone want me to edit some details out of the thread's topic?
Post by: Mario on December 10, 2004, 05:35:09 AM
GBA games over 100k -
GBA THE INCREDIBLES $6,515,073 235,757
GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP $5,070,848 157,613
GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP $5,011,944 165,280
GBA THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE $3,961,270 147,403
GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR $3,531,408 115,445
GBA SHREK 2 $3,288,651 133,334
GBA CARTOON NTWK BUNDLE $2,992,834 113,666
GBA SHREK 2:BEG FOR MERCY $2,564,586 102,508
GBA NAMCO MUSEUM $1,357,705 126,096
GBA MIDNIGHT CLUB: STREET $1,017,762 117,113
NDS games over 100k -
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $6,474,906 214,417
Post by: Ian Sane on December 10, 2004, 06:12:52 AM
But a lot of the mistakes were made before MP2 was even started. Low sales for Cube games are common because of very major mistakes made within the first year of the Cube's life. The Cube has too low of a userbase and is almost completely ignored by the general public. That's the overall problem and low MP2 sales are the result.
Post by: 1day on December 10, 2004, 06:17:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
I see PooP:Weakness Within's generic angst and hip color schemes couldn't make the cut in these charts.
Don't forget it actually released Dec 2nd after a few short delays. So yeah and Metroid Prime 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3 sales really bombed horribly, so sad.
Post by: zelos_rules on December 10, 2004, 09:51:52 AM
Post by: Rugal on December 10, 2004, 03:11:15 PM
Mario 64 214,417
Spiderman 2 40,706
Madden 2005 32,889
The Urbz 26,908
Asphalt Urban GT 26,605
Feel the Magic 13,270
Megaman cumulative totals:
Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 183,370
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 177,328
Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 31,969
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 24,246
GC cumulatives:
Paper Mario 2: 333,102
Pikmin 2: 193,661
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 192,332
Donkey Konga: 172,805
Post by: Mario on December 10, 2004, 03:32:07 PM
Top Publishers
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1 MICROSOFT (CORP) $178 21.0%
2 ELECTRONIC ARTS $133 15.6%
3 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) $100 11.8%
4 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $74 8.7%
5 THQ $71 8.4%
6 ACTIVISION $63 7.4%
7 SONY (CORP) $41 4.8%
8 KONAMI OF AMERICA $34 4.0%
9 ATARI $24 2.9%
10 NAMCO $18 2.2%
11 VIVENDI UNIVERSAL (CORP) $16 1.9%
12 MAJESCO $14 1.6%
13 UBISOFT (CORP) $12 1.5%
14 MIDWAY $10 1.2%
15 LUCASARTS $8 0.9%
16 SEGA OF AMERICA $7,382,597 869803.1%
17 BUENA VISTA GAMES $6,201,760 730679.2%
18 CAPCOM USA $5,022,287 591716.0%
19 EIDOS INTERACTIVE (CORP) $3,837,475 452123.8%
20 SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) $2,964,024 349215.5%
Nintendo sales for November only
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NINTENDO OF AMERICA
GBA ADVANCE WARS $272 23
GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $111,701 6,112
GBA BEACH BLANK-OUT BLAST $113,550 6,459
GBA BOMBERMAN CLASSIC $40,672 2,985
GBA CASTLEVANIA CLASSIC $331,552 19,193
GBA DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST $3,807 188
GBA DONKEY KONG CLASSIC $496,794 26,567
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $349,586 17,954
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 $2,175,076 74,355
GBA DR. MARIO CLASSIC $835,746 48,311
GBA EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC $111,113 6,227
GBA F-ZERO GP LEGEND $77,407 2,542
GBA F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY $3,004 207
GBA FINAL FANTASY TACTICS $220,010 6,566
GBA FIRE EMBLEM $153,287 5,174
GBA FOR HO-OH BELLS TOLL! $145,197 8,164
GBA GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 $5,851 367
GBA GOLDEN SUN $385 26
GBA GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE $58,850 2,985
GBA HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK $17,800 623
GBA HAMTARO:HAM-HAM GAMES $195,216 6,376
GBA ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC $50,743 3,680
GBA JOHTO PHOTO FINISH $157,534 8,656
GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR $3,531,408 115,445
GBA KIRBY: NIGHTMARE $252,576 8,087
GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $432,099 14,261
GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,400,153 46,774
GBA MARIO GOLF ADVANCE $354,067 11,530
GBA MARIO KART: CIRCUIT $559,792 18,339
GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND $2,086,009 68,384
GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $915,091 29,740
GBA METROID CLASSIC $294,409 17,464
GBA METROID FUSION $102,436 3,260
GBA METROID ZERO MISSION $296,733 10,462
GBA PAC-MAN CLASSIC $341,405 22,443
GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP $5,070,848 157,613
GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP $5,011,944 165,280
GBA POKEMON PINBALL: R&S $144,568 5,673
GBA POKEMON RUBY $797,542 24,582
GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE $767,450 23,790
GBA POKEMON-I CHOOSE YOU! $171,803 10,127
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE $110,708 3,780
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 $734,992 23,808
GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $813,565 43,004
GBA SWORD OF MANA $73,857 2,706
GBA WARIO LAND 4 $605 33
GBA WARIOWARE INC: MEGA $46,777 1,495
GBA XEVIOUS CLASSIC $27,099 2,047
GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 $230,189 7,380
GBA ZELDA CLASSIC $384,657 20,422
GBA ZELDA II CLASSIC $646,500 36,971
GBA ZELDA: LINK TO PAST $382,898 12,769
GCN 1080 AVALANCHE $128,910 4,846
GCN ANIMAL CROSSING $448,543 23,310
GCN CUSTOM ROBO $167,612 4,524
GCN DISNEY MAGICAL MIRROR $34,725 1,659
GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS $2,866,788 58,822
GCN ETERNAL DARKNESS $26,683 1,707
GCN F-ZERO GX $129,298 8,500
GCN FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL $210,765 5,402
GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE $467,267 24,267
GCN LUIGI'S MANSION $503,081 27,491
GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL $678,205 36,951
GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,145,769 23,893
GCN MARIO PARTY 4 $67,142 1,459
GCN MARIO PARTY 5 $699,176 14,380
GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS $4,824,762 98,100
GCN METROID PRIME $291,571 16,397
GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO $9,483,345 192,332
GCN NBA COURTSIDE 2002 $3,604 263
GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND $6,699,387 143,399
GCN PIKMIN $44,899 3,076
GCN PIKMIN 2 $1,434,597 30,622
GCN POKEMON CHANNEL $87,960 4,375
GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM $704,232 14,450
GCN PREVIEW DISC $3,010 376
GCN STAR FOX ADVENTURES $79,114 4,248
GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $1,070,650 57,283
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $1,153,320 42,521
GCN WARIO WORLD $186,242 9,845
GCN WARIOWARE INC: PARTY $115,309 4,092
GCN WAVE RACE: BLUE STORM $13,967 905
GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS $595,574 12,940
GCN ZELDA: FOUR W/O CABLE $16,811 393
GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER $1,238,598 71,000
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $6,474,906 214,417
More November numbers
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $6,474,906 214,417
NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $1,456,745 40,706
NDS MADDEN NFL 2005 $1,303,238 32,889
NDS THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY $1,029,216 26,908
NDS ASPHALT: URBAN GT $793,442 26,605
NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX $393,678 13,270
GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE 2 $368,513 9,306 (ouch)
GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE $123,555 6,844
PS2 VIEWTIFUL JOE $158,452 7,518
XBX BLINX 2: MASTERS TIME $129,223 3,376 (tee hee)
PS2 GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT $1,373,225 27,820
XBX GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT $1,229,808 24,933
GCN GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT $846,002 17,091
GCN BATEN KAITOS: ETERNAL $938,732 18,996
GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $925,695 52,431
PS2 SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS $1,205,809 62,203
XBX SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS $696,127 35,725
GBA GRAND THEFT AUTO ADVN $799,373 27,325
GCN THE INCREDIBLES $3,383,708 87,562
GCN THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE $2,565,922 68,534
GCN SPONGEBOB: BATTLE $736,988 40,194
Lifetime sales
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Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,509,278
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,731,903
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,658,103
The Wind Waker: 1,608,491
Luigi's Mansion: 1,509,505
Metroid Prime: 1,220,779
Mario Party 4: 949,293
Animal Crossing: 817,951
Star Fox Adventures: 783,815
Mario Party 5: 774,623
Pokemon Colosseum: 698,449
Pikmin: 659,148
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 445,520
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 383,662
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 333,102
Kirby Air Ride: 328,362
Wave Race: 327,594
Four Swords Adventures: 280,404
Eternal Darkness: 276,923
F-Zero GX: 267,497
Wario World: 239,011
Pikmin 2: 193,661
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 192,332
Donkey Konga: 172,805
Preview Disk: 171,117
Pokemon Channel: 159,496
NBA Courtside 2002: 158,242
Custom Robo: 147,775
Magical Mirror: 117,523
Mario Power Tennis: 98,100
Wario Ware Inc: 95,823
1080 Avalanche: 94,115
Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 183,370
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 177,328
Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 31,969
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 24,246
Viewtiful Joe (GC): 274,134
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 46,954
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 9,306
Resident Evil Zero: 428,034
Resident Evil: 468,750
Resident Evil 2: 35,760
Resident Evil 3: 48,574
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 32,699
La Pucelle: Tactics: 58,373
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader: 867,619
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike: 434,605
Soul Calibur (GC): 718,395
Soul Calibur (PS2): 665,111
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 472,420
Tales of Symphonia: 255,240
Baten Kaitos: 18,996
TimeSplitters 2:
PS2 267,530
GCN 230,128
XBX 219,969
Post by: zelos_rules on December 10, 2004, 05:04:17 PM
But OUCHH!!! for Baten Kaitos. Only 18 000? ...thats got to hurt namco. HAHAHA they thought that this game will sell half a million worldwide.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 11, 2004, 02:22:05 AM
I guess Baten Kaitos will get a PS2 port now. And blol at the piss poor Blinx 2 sales (it's not really a bad game, dudes).
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2004, 10:27:41 PM
Think back, did you buy another title on the same day you got your NES? or were you content with Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunt for awhile?
Also, I imagine the fact that you can play GBA games on it cooled the need to get a DS title right away.
Hmm, if you look at it that way it's an argument against bundled games and backwards compatibility.
As soon as we see some better titles for the DS I'm sure software sales will pickup
and I would wager a spike in sales after the kids open their DS present (which the gift givers bought without an extra game) and get tired of the Metroid Demo. "Mom, can we go to the mall and spend my Christmas money? I want a new game."
I wonder what the DS killer ap of the future is going to be?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 12, 2004, 04:03:37 AM
Post by: Renny on December 12, 2004, 06:50:19 AM
Post by: Bartman3010 on December 12, 2004, 10:18:25 AM
Any new numbers?
Edit: Oh, what about Sonic Heroes?
Post by: Mario on December 12, 2004, 02:02:22 PM
GCN - 447,337
PS2 - 285,743
XBX - 128,571
Also,
GCN ALIEN HOMINID $39,960 1,393
PS2 ALIEN HOMINID $59,308 2,005
Very, very sad.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 12, 2004, 03:02:31 PM
IIRC:
Metal Gear Twin Snakes launch month: 180,000 some
Metal Gear 3 Snake Eater launch month: 290,00 some
And Snake Eater had "teh hype", TV commercials, and the larger user base with PS2.
Apparently Konami's Metal Gear franchise is out of vogue. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I guess.
Post by: Ian Sane on December 13, 2004, 06:56:13 AM
Goldeneye RA is the first time I've seen EA unsuccessfully fool reviewers into giving one of their Bond games a high score. In the past it was always "it's not nearly as good as Goldeneye but who cares? I love Mia's theme song! 9.8/10!" But when they actually used the Goldeneye name "not as good as Goldeneye" no longer was acceptable. It's not just a Bond game anymore it's a Goldeneye game and thus a game with that name has to match up with the original. So Rogue Agent has been rightly sh!t on by everyone with a brain. I think had they just released "Rogue Agent", the exact same game but without the Goldeneye name, reviews would have been better and sales would have been higher. It seems to take a lot to expose EA's mediocrity to people but even the dimmest casual gamer is going to spot someone milking Goldeneye's name.
Post by: couchmonkey on December 13, 2004, 10:15:11 AM
Feel the Magic sales: I think the game is just too weird for it's own good. A quick glance at the box leaves you with the impression that it's going to be soft porn or some kind of dancing game. I think DS sales in general are weak because the lineup is weak.
As a whole: It's interesting to see just how fad-oriented gaming is becoming in North America. All in one month you can see What's Cool (Halo), What's Out (Metal Gear), and What's Going Out (Grand Theft Auto). What's Next? Goldeneye.
Post by: Chongman on December 13, 2004, 06:00:42 PM
poor namco...
really, they're probably ninty's biggest third party ally right now...this really blows. i wish this game would sell...it really is pretty good too.
Post by: Deguello on December 13, 2004, 09:54:35 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on December 17, 2004, 02:58:14 PM
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Dec 6 - Dec 12
Top Ten Games:
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1 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII - 203,618
2 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Yoshimune - 188,927
3 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam vs Z Gundam - 183,583
4 PSP Minna no GOLF Portable - 65,900
5 GBA RockMan EXE 5 Team of Blues - 64,860
6 PSP Ridge Racers - 60,624
7 DS Sawaru Made in Wario - 58,083
8 DS Super Mario 64 DS - 54,829
9 PS2 FIFA Total Football 2 - 53,617
10 GC Mario Party 6 - 39,231
Hardware: (this week - last week)
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1 DS: 198,892 - 468,883
2 PSP: 160,019 - N/A
3 PS2: 98,323 - 93,829
4 GBASP: 48,912 - 27,313
5 GC: 25,359 - 5,465
6 GBA: 897 - 822
7 Xbox :385 - 621
8 SC: 44 - 44
9 PSone: 35 - 40
The Nintendo DS's week-2 beat the PlayStation Portable's week-1. But a PSP golf game and Ridge Racers both edged out the DS's Made in Wario and Mario 64-DS.
The GameCube saw a sharp jump, perhaps due to Mario Party 6.
Dragon Quest 8 rules. Here's hoping that Square can do a better job with the series in America than Enix has (I can't believe I just said that).
Post by: Mario on December 17, 2004, 03:50:25 PM
Good to see Made in Wario starting to outsell Super Mario 64 DS, see Nintendo, people want original games!
Post by: xts3 on December 18, 2004, 08:36:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Chongman
poor namco...
really, they're probably ninty's biggest third party ally right now...this really blows. i wish this game would sell...it really is pretty good too.
What are you talking about? Look at those soul calibur and Tales of symphonia sales, 250K units for an RPG has got to be pretty good and 700K units for Soul Calibur 2 says a lot as well.
Post by: xts3 on December 18, 2004, 08:40:14 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Pretty disappointing to see generic crap like NFS outselling MP2. I'm quite disappointed in Metroid Prime 2 sales so far but I'm not really surprised either. Was it a mistake to release it the same month as Halo 2? I don't think so. It's on a different system so it attracts a different audience. I think the biggest mistake was a lack of hype. Metroid Prime 2 didn't have the kind of advertising a game of that calibur should have. Metroid Prime is one of the greatest games ever made and therefore its sequel should get a lot of promotion. Just mentioning that the first game won several GOTY awards in an ad would have helped.
But a lot of the mistakes were made before MP2 was even started. Low sales for Cube games are common because of very major mistakes made within the first year of the Cube's life. The Cube has too low of a userbase and is almost completely ignored by the general public. That's the overall problem and low MP2 sales are the result.
The biggest problem with Metroid prime 2 is that it copied the same game mechanics of the first game and repackaged it around similar graphics. The thing was the original metroid primes success was based on it being new and fresh from it's recent transition to 3D it was new and interesting. I think it reall wore off when people realized after playing it that the game mechanics just weren't that fun to begin with. Metroid prime had some painfully boring gameplay if you really think about it. It was one of those games you play once and then shelf unless you are hardcore.
The problem was when they made metroid prime a first person shooter they didn't bring over what makes first person perspective games good. People might want to call metroid prime a FPA not an FPS but the thing is if you took away samus's gun and visor you'd be walking around a world just solving little puzzles and collecting items and that gets very boring. The problem is Metroid prime needs more FPS design elements and better scheme to take off. Halo and Halo 2 have this down from the PC gaming era but Metroid prime doesn't try to innovate or bring the GOOD things that make FPS fun and bring it into prime and put a unique prime spin on it. Instead you have auto aim which makes for lack of challenging game and no real intense moments. It just involves waiting out your opponents and hiding and ducking behind walls for cover because the AI is so stupid.
Post by: xts3 on December 18, 2004, 08:48:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
The thing to note about Handheld games is that they notoriously pull in low numbers. Handheld tie-in ratios are more than significantly lower than Consoles.
I think thats in part to handheld games ridiculous prices for old 2D games that dont cost anywhere near millions of bucks to develop and they want $40-50 a game for OLD SNES games. No thanks we already have a SNES and those old games and can pick them up on ebay for mega cheap.
Another enormous problem is the ease of which Handhelds are emulated on the PC. Gameboy advance emulator was out the same year the GBA was. Thats how easy it was to emulate after so many years of SNES emulators.
Post by: Bartman3010 on December 19, 2004, 02:46:02 AM
Post by: Mario on December 19, 2004, 04:01:08 AM
Post by: Bartman3010 on December 20, 2004, 02:45:19 PM
Post by: Deguello on December 20, 2004, 06:51:42 PM
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Originally posted by: xts3Quote
Originally posted by: Deguello
The thing to note about Handheld games is that they notoriously pull in low numbers. Handheld tie-in ratios are more than significantly lower than Consoles.
I think thats in part to handheld games ridiculous prices for old 2D games that dont cost anywhere near millions of bucks to develop and they want $40-50 a game for OLD SNES games. No thanks we already have a SNES and those old games and can pick them up on ebay for mega cheap.
Another enormous problem is the ease of which Handhelds are emulated on the PC. Gameboy advance emulator was out the same year the GBA was. Thats how easy it was to emulate after so many years of SNES emulators.
Are you daft? First of all, While the GBA has a little more than it's fair share of SNES (even NES) ports from various companies, most of the titles made for it are new. Second, did you honestly EVER pay $50 for a GBA game?
The reason Handhelds have low tie-in ratios is because it is not uncommon for people to have a handheld and just one game for it. Take me for example. I have over 30 GBA titles that I purchased with my own money. I have a lot of them. I am at one end of the spectrum (there are people with more, I guarantee it.) That mean to throw the average down to 4-5, there has to be a crapload of people with a GBA and just one or two games.
Post by: xts3 on December 21, 2004, 03:21:40 PM
Post by: xts3 on December 21, 2004, 05:46:12 PM
Post by: vudu on December 22, 2004, 09:12:39 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 22, 2004, 01:03:31 PM
Post by: mantidor on December 23, 2004, 06:28:17 AM
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Originally posted by: xts3
The biggest problem with Metroid prime 2 is that it copied the same game mechanics of the first game and repackaged it around similar graphics. The thing was the original metroid primes success was based on it being new and fresh from it's recent transition to 3D it was new and interesting. I think it reall wore off when people realized after playing it that the game mechanics just weren't that fun to begin with. Metroid prime had some painfully boring gameplay if you really think about it. It was one of those games you play once and then shelf unless you are hardcore.
The problem was when they made metroid prime a first person shooter they didn't bring over what makes first person perspective games good. People might want to call metroid prime a FPA not an FPS but the thing is if you took away samus's gun and visor you'd be walking around a world just solving little puzzles and collecting items and that gets very boring. The problem is Metroid prime needs more FPS design elements and better scheme to take off. Halo and Halo 2 have this down from the PC gaming era but Metroid prime doesn't try to innovate or bring the GOOD things that make FPS fun and bring it into prime and put a unique prime spin on it. Instead you have auto aim which makes for lack of challenging game and no real intense moments. It just involves waiting out your opponents and hiding and ducking behind walls for cover because the AI is so stupid.
I totally disagree, making a game first person doesnt mean the developer has to implement every aspect of the usual fps. I great example is Thief, which is an awesome game.
And this is why the whole FPA vs FPS issue is important. Saying that Metroid Prime games are First Person Shooters is semantically (is that a word?) accurate, but its misleading since people might expect mindless shooting, which I admit is very fun, I love games like Doom, Quake or Halflife. Of course if you expect a game like that you'll be dissapointed with Prime, but these are Metroid games, and they implement quite well the classic Metroid Gameplay, which is more about exploration than shooting. If someone liked Super Metroid I would find very odd if this someone doesnt like MP or MP2, unless this person hates any kind of first person perspective.
And anyway I dont see how this affected MP2 sales, I think that the main reason they werent great last month was lack of hype.
Post by: Ian Sane on December 23, 2004, 08:39:03 AM
Personally I think that a game that plays like Metroid Prime but has none of the shooting or combat would still be really amazing. It be kind of a quiet Myst-like game but with more interaction. I'm thinking of an archaelogist game. Like all Metroid games the appeal is in exploring the world. The shooting and action is secondary.
Like mantidor said the Metroid Prime games are not designed to be Doom related first person shooters. And they shouldn't be. If you just looked at a screenshot of it you could assume that Super Metroid was a run of the mill action game like the Castlevania games of the time or Mega Man. Or due to the space theme you might think it would be like Contra. Side scrolling action titles were everywhere during that time. Yet no one complains that Super Metroid doesn't play like a mindless action game. When Super Metroid was released I had no idea what it played like and when I first played it in a store demo I could not adapt to it because I assumed it be a generic side scroller. I have since come to love that game because now I understand it. Metroid Prime is the same way.
Metroid should NOT be a generic FPS. That's what I hate about Metroid Prime Hunters. It's the Metroid Prime game for the ignorant dolts who didn't get Metroid Prime. I don't care how well something sells a franchise with a strong fanbase should never be significantly altered to appeal to non-fans. If you don't get Metroid tough sh!t.
What Nintendo should do is release a totally unrelated traditional FPS to please those that want it. Why ruin a game design that fans like when making a brand new game will bring the same result? It's not like Nintendo has successfully made "Metroid" a huge name with casual gamers so there's no advantage to using the franchise name over something new.
Post by: Deguello on December 23, 2004, 11:49:54 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 27, 2004, 10:07:49 AM
1) Nintendo DS - 221,625 (Total: 889,400)
2) Sony PlayStation 2 - 112,970 (Total: 2,610,875)
3) Sony PlayStation Portable [PSP] - 85,059 (Total: 245,078)
4) Nintendo Game Boy Advance SP - 80,271 (Total: 2,341,839)
5) Nintendo GameCube - 29,991 (Total: 588,525)
6) Nintendo Game Boy Advance - 1,270 (Total: 189,092)
7) Microsoft Xbox - 499 (Total: 36,812)
Post by: MaleficentOgre on December 27, 2004, 11:23:09 AM
Post by: Mario on December 27, 2004, 01:04:20 PM
1 Super Mario 64 DS
2 Sawaru Made In Wario DS
3 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Idataki Street Special PS2
4 Dragon Quest VIII PS2
5 Metal Gear Solid 3 PS2
6 Mario Party 6 GC
7 Rockman EXE 5 GBA
8 Pokemon Dash DS
9 Yoshi: Universal Gravitation GBA
10 Dynasty Warriors PSP
...and the 26th
1 Super Mario 64 DS
2 Dragon Quest VIII PS2
3 Sawaru Made In Wario DS
4 Metal Gear Solid 3 PS2
5 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Idataki Street Special PS2
6 Mario Party 6 GC
7 Rockman EXE 5 GBA
8 Kessen III PS2
9 Tales Of Rebirth PS2
10 Yoshi: Universal Gravitation GBA
A very Nintendo christmas
Post by: pkp on December 29, 2004, 05:41:31 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 30, 2004, 02:28:35 AM
1. Nintendo DS - 252,000 units
2. PlayStation 2 - 145,000 units
3. GameBoy Advance SP - 111,000 units
4. PlayStation Portable - 92,000 units
5. GameCube - 54,000 units
Post by: D-Mac Double on December 30, 2004, 12:22:46 PM
(Hooray for proof of DS topping 1 million.
)Software - This Week | Total Sales
1.) Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special (PS2, Square Enix) - 185,000 | NEW
2.) Super Mario 64 DS (NDS, Nintendo) - 125,000 | 366,000
3.) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2, Konami) - 122,000 | 610,000
4.) Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himegimi (PS2, Square Enix) - 118,000 | 3,281,000
5.) Mario Party 6 (GC, Nintendo) - 104,000 | 373,000
6.) Sawaru Made in Wario (NDS, Nintendo) - 100,000 | 350,000
7.) Pokémon Emerald (GBA, The Pokémon Company) - 84,000 | 1,335,000
8.) Rockman EXE 5 Team of Blues (GBA, Capcom) - 83,000 | 204,000
9.) Kessen III (PS2, Koei) - 78,000 | NEW
10.) Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (GC, Nintendo) - 74,000 | 121,000
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Hardware - This Week | December Total
1.) Nintendo DS - 252,000 | 1,095,000
2.) PlayStation 2 - 145,000 | 466,000
3.) Game Boy Advance SP - 111,000 | 286,000
4.) PSP - 92,000 | 339,000
5.) GameCube - 54,000 | 129,000
Post by: Darc Requiem on December 30, 2004, 12:35:18 PM
Post by: CHEN on December 30, 2004, 02:35:11 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 30, 2004, 02:59:49 PM
), and I don't think the bad press the PSP is getting from the defects aren't helping matters much.
Post by: Mario on December 30, 2004, 03:51:16 PM
DS and PSP are both selling out, so it's hard to tell which one will break away once there are enough shipments to meet early demands. Third parties would have to be pretty worried about being able to sell a game on PSP though.
Post by: Artimus on December 30, 2004, 04:36:12 PM
Post by: Mario on December 30, 2004, 06:18:12 PM
DS -- 396,674
GBASP -- 190,268
PS2 -- 188,134
GC -- 108,311
PSP -- 107,217
GBA -- 3,877
Xbox -- 704
PSone -- 90
SC -- 76
1 PS2 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special 201,005
2 DS Super Mario 64 DS 150,550 (416,125)
3 GC Mario Party 6 138,124 (416,563)
4 GBA Yoshi no Banyuuin Ryoku 112,663 (161,344)
5 PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Konami 110,438 (658,624)
6 GC Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat 107,467 (**155,000)
7 DS Sawaru Made in Wario 106,861 (377,243)
8 GBA Rockman EXE 5 Blue Team 105,104
9 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII 104,211 (3,103,477)
10 GBA Konjiki no Gashbell! Unare Yujou no Dengeki 2 102,210
PSP is getting absolutely slaughtered, and Jungle Beat comes into the top 10 out of nowhere after initially bombing.
Mario Party 6 is selling very well.
Post by: CHEN on December 31, 2004, 12:43:23 AM
Yay, Yoshi's Universal Gravitational is doing extremely well. Hurray for wacky embarrassing situations.
Post by: xts3 on January 02, 2005, 09:50:01 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on January 02, 2005, 10:15:39 AM
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I'm curious. Where exactly do you guys get all this data? I'd love to be able to check up on numbers on how my favorite games are doing here and abroad.
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Is there some place that has all time sales stats for every system and can I sign up or find out without paying ungodly amounts of money?
Nope. Companies like NPD assemble this data and sell it to people like financial analysts and stockbrokers, that way people can make decisions about things like investing in companies like Nokia without actually having to know anything about videogames.
We tend to get this info because there's apparently always someone out there who paid ungodly sums of money for this info (or perhaps, their boss did), and they feel like shaing it with the common folk, so they leak it onto internet message boards.
If you're lucky, you can find other people on message boards who are good about dilligently collecting and archiving and assembling these leaks, and you can ask them to look individual things up for you. If you can get into it, the Gaming Age Forums seem to have a few of these kinds of people.
Post by: Mario on January 13, 2005, 12:20:10 PM
1 PS2 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS 1,553,930
2 PS2 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 1,044,661
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 935,719
4 XBX HALO 2 900,927
5 PS2 CALL OF DUTY: FINEST 624,341
6 GBA KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN 539,847
7 XBX NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 534,815
8 PS2 NBA LIVE 2005 519,289
9 PS2 METAL GEAR3:SNAKE EAT 486,886
10 GCN MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC 469,014
11 XBX SW:KNIGHT REPUBLIC II 458,761
12 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI3 443,378
13 NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 437,331
14 GBA THE INCREDIBLES 411,578
15 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 397,517
16 PS2 JAK 3 389,683
17 GBA THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 368,012
18 XBX T.CLANCY GHOST RECON2 367,950
19 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 334,731
20 PS2 RATCHET & CLANK: UP 315,979
21 XBX CALL OF DUTY: FINEST 314,756
22 XBX MADDEN NFL 2005 302,994
23 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 298,342
24 PS2 T.CLANCY GHOST RECON2 294,956
25 PS2 THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 291,703
26 GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP 285,988
27 PS2 ESPN NBA 2K5 285,319
28 PS2 ESPN NFL 2K5 283,535
29 GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO 270,092
30 PS2 WORLD CHAMP POKER 268,160
31 PS2 THE INCREDIBLES 265,071
32 GBA FINAL FANTASY I & II 263,635
33 GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP 246,023
34 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 245,041
35 PS2 PRINCE PERSIA:WARRIOR 236,096
36 XBX PRINCE PERSIA:WARRIOR 224,831
37 PS2 ATV OFF ROAD FURY 3 217,349
38 GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND 214,921
39 NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 201,522
40 GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS 198,793
41 GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 197,773
42 PS2 SW: BATTLEFRONT 196,667
43 GCN THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 193,650
44 GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR 192,852
45 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 180,833
46 XBX NBA LIVE 2005 178,885
47 PS2 KILLZONE 171,062
48 GCN THE INCREDIBLES 169,537
49 PS2 JAK II 164,673
50 PS2 EYE TOY: ANTIGRAV 162,728
51 PS2 SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS 162,179
52 PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 161,052
53 XBX ESPN NFL 2K5 159,994
54 PS2 GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT 159,789
55 GCN NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 158,473
56 XBX ESPN NBA 2K5 157,968
57 PS2 SPONGEBOB: BATTLE 156,166
58 PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE 155,122
59 PS2 LEMONY SNICKET'S 155,106
60 GBA NAMCO MUSEUM 154,453
61 XBX HALO 152,976
62 GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 152,962
63 PS2 X-MEN: LEGENDS 151,875
64 PS2 SOCOM II: NAVY SEALS 151,293
65 PS2 NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND 151,220
66 PS2 DDR EXTREME KONAMI OF AMERICA 150,935
67 PS2 NCAA MARCH MDNSS 2005 150,749
68 PS2 ACE COMBAT 5: UNSUNG 149,082
69 GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 146,104
70 GCN MADDEN NFL 2005 143,677
71 PS2 ESPN COLLEGE HOOP 2K5 142,973
72 GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER 141,663
73 PS2 NFL STREET 2 139,015
74 GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND 137,152
75 XBX TOURNAMENT PAINTBALL 136,545
76 PS2 LORD RINGS: THIRD AGE 136,466
77 XBX TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 133,409
78 PS2 AMERICAN CHOPPER 132,811
79 GBA THAT'S SO RAVEN 131,200
80 XBX SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC 128,600
81 PS2 RATCHET & CLANK:GOING 128,475
82 PS2 SLY 2:BAND OF THIEVES 128,377
83 GBA LEMONY SNICKET'S 128,159
84 PS2 SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN 128,145
85 GBA SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 128,067
86 PS2 SHREK 2 126,364
87 GBA LIZZIE MCGUIRE 2 122,320
88 GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS 121,574
89 XBX FABLE 121,301
90 PS2 MORTAL KOMBATECEPTN 121,207
91 XBX HALO 2 LIMITED ED 120,367
92 XBX SW: BATTLEFRONT 119,573
93 GBA SHREK 2:BEG FOR MERCY 118,996
94 GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION 117,247
95 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGROUND 116,770
96 GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC 116,560
97 XBX GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT 116,494
98 PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS 116,399
99 GCN SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 113,896
100 PS2 THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY 113,291
GameCube top 50 for December!
1 GCN MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC 469,014
2 GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO 270,092
3 GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND 214,921
4 GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS 198,793
5 GCN THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 193,650
6 GCN THE INCREDIBLES 169,537
7 GCN NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 158,473
8 GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 152,962
9 GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 146,104
10 GCN MADDEN NFL 2005 143,677
11 GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER 141,663
12 GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS 121,574
13 GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION 117,247
14 GCN SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 113,896
15 GCN SPONGEBOB: BATTLE 112,449
16 GCN LEMONY SNICKET'S 97,201
17 GCN TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 91,612
18 GCN NBA LIVE 2005 86,194
19 GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE 85,557
20 GCN CALL OF DUTY: FINEST 85,434
21 GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL 84,135
22 GCN GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT 83,948
23 GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 83,198
24 GCN LUIGI'S MANSION 81,963
25 GCN TAK 2:STAFF OF DREAMS 81,586
26 GCN SHREK 2 80,399
27 GCN ANIMAL CROSSING 75,175
28 GCN SONIC ADVENTURE 2 72,096
29 GCN DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO 69,814
30 GCN NEED SPEED: PURSUIT 2 68,979
31 GCN PRINCE PERSIA:WARRIOR 66,570
32 GCN SPYRO: A HERO'S TAIL 66,323
33 GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE 65,321
34 GCN HARVEST MOON:WONDRFUL 62,858
35 GCN DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI2 61,967
36 GCN SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN 57,361
37 GCN SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT 55,943
38 GCN LORD RINGS: THIRD AGE 54,961
39 GCN BUDGET ASSTMENT 14.99 54,296
40 GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 53,747
41 GCN PIKMIN 2 53,597
42 GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE 2 52,499
43 GCN SPIDER-MAN: THE MOVIE 51,820
44 GCN SHARK TALE 50,527
45 GCN X-MEN: LEGENDS 49,553
46 GCN SOUL CALIBUR II 48,226
47 GCN TONY HAWK UNDERGROUND 46,394
48 GCN TEENAGE MUTANT TRTL 2 45,104
49 GCN THE SIMS: BUSTIN' OUT 44,652
50 GCN METROID PRIME 43,414
Top 50 GBA games for December!
1 GBA KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN 539,847
2 GBA THE INCREDIBLES 411,578
3 GBA THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 368,012
4 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 334,731
5 GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP 285,988
6 GBA FINAL FANTASY I & II 263,635
7 GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP 246,023
8 GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 197,773
9 GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR 192,852
10 GBA NAMCO MUSEUM 154,453
11 GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND 137,152
12 GBA THAT'S SO RAVEN 131,200
13 GBA LEMONY SNICKET'S 128,159
14 GBA SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 128,067
15 GBA LIZZIE MCGUIRE 2 122,320
16 GBA SHREK 2:BEG FOR MERCY 118,996
17 GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC 116,560
18 GBA SHARK TALE 110,457
19 GBA NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 103,892
20 GBA DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO 102,846
21 GBA TAK 2:STAFF OF DREAMS 102,138
22 GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG 94,135
23 GBA TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 94,015
24 GBA TEXAS HOLD 'EM POKER 93,067
25 GBA SHREK 2 91,223
26 GBA TEENAGE MUTANT TRTL 2 88,410
27 GBA BUDGET ASSTMENT 14.99 88,228
28 GBA DISNEY'S KIM POSSBLE2 87,547
29 GBA SONIC ADVANCE 3 85,171
30 GBA DRAGONBALL Z: BUU'S 84,474
31 GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 83,179
32 GBA PAC-MAN COLLECTION 81,853
33 GBA THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY 80,189
34 GBA DR. MARIO CLASSIC 79,673
35 GBA YU-GI-OH! DSTNY BOARD 79,340
36 GBA SPONGEBOB VOL 1 78,321
37 GBA BARBIE AS PRINCESS 77,661
38 GBA MADDEN NFL 2005 76,709
39 GBA POWER RANGERS: DINO 76,442
40 GBA SCOOBY-DOO 2:MONSTERS 73,306
41 GBA PIRATES OF CARIBBEAN 71,216
42 GBA PAC-MAN CLASSIC 70,433
43 GBA DRAGONBALL Z:SUPRSNIC 70,143
44 GBA NICKTOONS COLL VOL 1 70,127
45 GBA MARIO KART: CIRCUIT 69,795
46 GBA TETRIS WORLDS 66,983
47 GBA STRAW SHRTCAKE:SUMMER 66,481
48 GBA NICKTOONS FREEZE 66,327
49 GBA FAIRLY ODD: SHADOW 66,209
50 GBA DONKEY KONG CLASSIC 64,583
Top Nintendo DS games for December!
1 NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 437,331
2 NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 201,522
3 NDS MADDEN NFL 2005 89,615
4 NDS ASPHALT: URBAN GT 84,145
5 NDS THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY 76,665
6 NDS RIDGE RACER DS 54,728
7 NDS MR. DRILLER: DRILL 30,823
8 NDS TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 28,829
9 NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX 28,508
10 NDS PING PALS 23,325
11 NDS SPRUNG 11,431
These numbers are for December only.
Post by: mantidor on January 13, 2005, 02:06:41 PM
Post by: mjbd on January 13, 2005, 04:29:36 PM
Post by: mantidor on January 13, 2005, 04:50:54 PM
What I find interesting is that the ps2 with such a huge user base doesnt sell by millions most of its games. The numbers are comparable to xbox's and GC's numbers.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 13, 2005, 04:56:46 PM
The main reason for this is a lack of hype of course. I'm getting REALLY sick of saying that every time these sales charts come up. It received less coverage that Halo or GTA by the media, received criticism for being too similar to the first game (while the other two which are worse offenders for that got perfect scores), and the game was largely ignored in GOTY articles. Despite being one of the best games for this generation it has been largely ignored and forgotten mere months after its release. This is what three years of total incompetence in marketing does to great games. If Sony or MS promoted them the Metroid Prime games would be two of the biggest killer apps of this generation.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 13, 2005, 05:04:34 PM
Utter bullshit...I saw the MP2 commercial at least 20 times and I rarely watch TV...
Someone needs to wake up and realize that maybe marketing isn't the problem here...
Post by: Mario on January 13, 2005, 05:15:15 PM
How about those good Mario Party 6 sales huh, I don't think that got many commercials.
Post by: Mario on January 13, 2005, 05:17:26 PM
Xbox = 1,315,067
PS2 = 1,015,741
GC = 782,164
Post by: mantidor on January 13, 2005, 05:20:42 PM
Post by: Mario on January 13, 2005, 05:27:30 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on January 13, 2005, 06:34:48 PM
How often you see the commercial isn't the whole picture. How good the commercial is plays a big part. The hype for the game clearly wasn't there and that's because of marketing. I mean Nintendo made an amazing game. It's not like they did something else wrong.
Plus by marketing I mean the whole Gamecube as a whole. Metroid Prime 2's sales were limited by the public apathy for the Cube itself. That apathy is largely due to poor marketing.
Post by: Mario on January 14, 2005, 03:18:04 PM
real ones:
PS2 = 989,000
Xbox = 1,044,000
Gamecube = 814,000
Very close... very interesting.
Post by: Savior on January 14, 2005, 03:41:16 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 14, 2005, 08:42:04 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on January 14, 2005, 09:48:48 PM
By the way, someone posted a lot of game publisher numbers for December in the Gaming Age forums. I should post some of them here. In short, Capcom bombed. Katamari Damacy beat pretty much everything in Capcom's lineup.
Does anyone remember when I said that putting VJ2 on the PS2 wouldn't increase sales, but it would cause a horse race between the two versions, and that it wouldn't make any difference which version won, but that if the Cube version won again it would be funny? I was wrong. The Cube version won, yet I'm sad.
Capcom's Top 20:
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CAPCOM USA GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE 2 52,499
CAPCOM USA PS2 MEGA MAN X8 39,159
CAPCOM USA GBA MEGA MAN ZERO 3 34,605
CAPCOM USA PS2 STREET FIGHTER ANNIV 27,860
CAPCOM USA PS2 ONIMUSHA 3: DEMON 27,406
CAPCOM USA PS2 CAPCOM FIGHTING EVO 20,435
CAPCOM USA PS2 VIEWTIFUL JOE 19,524
CAPCOM USA GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE4 RED 18,991
CAPCOM USA GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE4 BLUE 18,866
CAPCOM USA PS2 VIEWTIFUL JOE 2 18,427
CAPCOM USA GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE 17,360
CAPCOM USA PS2 RESIDENT EVIL: OUTBRK 16,812
CAPCOM USA GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY 16,495
CAPCOM USA GCN MEGA MAN X COMMAND 16,050
CAPCOM USA PS2 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY 14,941
CAPCOM USA GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE3 WHT 14,144
CAPCOM USA GBA MEGA MAN BATTLE3 BLUE 12,630
CAPCOM USA GCN RESIDENT EVIL 11,776
CAPCOM USA PS2 MONSTER HUNTER 11,425
CAPCOM USA PS2 MEGA MAN X COMMAND 11,068
Capcom's gonna have to get out of this by cancelling the GameCube version of... damn, that won't work anymore. I know! They'll go third par-... no, that's not gonna work either. ... ... Capcom's gonna die.
Konami's Top [I didn't count]:
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KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 METAL GEAR3:SNAKE EAT 486,886
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 DDR EXTREME 150,935
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 DDR EXTREME BUNDLE 101,140
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA TEENAGE MUTANT TRTL 2 88,410
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 DDRMAX 2 86,260
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA YU-GI-OH! DSTNY BOARD 79,340
KONAMI OF AMERICA XBX DDR ULTRAMIX 2 BUNDLE 71,180
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 DDRMAX DANCE REVOLUTN 62,644
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 YU-GI-OH! CAPSULE 60,134
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 KARAOKE REV 3 W/MIC 58,413
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 TEENAGE MUTANT TRTL 2 52,960
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA FROGGER'S ADV: TEMPLE 49,945
KONAMI OF AMERICA XBX DDR ULTRAMIX 2 48,668
KONAMI OF AMERICA GCN TEENAGE MUTANT TRTL 2 45,104
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA YU-GI-OH! RESHEF 33,584
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 RUMBLE ROSES 32,626
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA SHAMAN KING: MASTER 24,995
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 SILENT HILL 4: ROOM 24,560
KONAMI OF AMERICA XBX TEENAGE MUTANT TRTL 2 22,367
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA YU-GI-OH! SACRED CARD 18,319
KONAMI OF AMERICA XBX DDR ULTRAMIX 17,745
KONAMI OF AMERICA PS2 KING ARTHUR 16,899
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA YU-GI-OH! TRNMNT 2004 16,785
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE 15,825
KONAMI OF AMERICA XBX KARAOKE REV W/MIC 15,360
KONAMI OF AMERICA GBA KONAMI ARCADE ADVNCED 15,288
KONAMI OF AMERICA GCN METAL GEAR:TWIN SNAKE 14,231
Microsoft's Top 10:
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MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX HALO 2 900,927
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX HALO 152,976
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX FABLE 121,301
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX HALO 2 LIMITED ED 120,367
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX PROJECT GOTHAM 2 82,652
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX COUNTER STRIKE 56,966
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX MECH ASSAULT 2: LONE 50,165
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX FUZION FRENZY 42,786
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX MECH ASSAULT 2 LTD ED 41,752
MICROSOFT (CORP) XBX CRIMSON SKIES: HIGH 39,588
Namco's Top [a bunch]:
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NAMCO GBA NAMCO MUSEUM 154,453
NAMCO PS2 ACE COMBAT 5: UNSUNG 149,082
NAMCO PS2 NAMCO MUSEUM 100,419
NAMCO GBA PAC-MAN COLLECTION 81,853
NAMCO PS2 PAC-MAN WORLD 2 74,671
NAMCO PS2 ACE COMBAT 04:SKIES 72,612
NAMCO GBA MS. PAC-MAN MAZE MAD 64,409
NAMCO XBX NAMCO MUSEUM 56,657
NAMCO NDS RIDGE RACER DS 54,728
NAMCO PS2 KATAMARI DAMACY 52,339
NAMCO GCN SOUL CALIBUR II 48,226
NAMCO PS2 SOUL CALIBUR II 43,854
NAMCO PS2 TEKKEN 4 43,301
NAMCO GCN BATEN KAITOS: ETERNAL 40,955
NAMCO GCN NAMCO MUSEUM 37,603
NAMCO XBX SOUL CALIBUR II 37,086
NAMCO GCN PAC-MAN PLAYER'S BND 36,312
NAMCO GBA PAC-MAN WORLD 34,008
NAMCO NDS MR. DRILLER: DRILL 30,823
NAMCO PS2 TIME CRISIS:ZONE W/GN 24,939
NAMCO GCN TALES OF SYMPHONIA 24,457
Natsume's Top 8:
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NATSUME GCN HARVEST MOON:WONDRFUL 62,858
NATSUME GBA HARVEST MOON: FRIENDS 26,763
NATSUME PS2 REEL FISHING III 12,449
NATSUME GCN MEDABOTS: INFINITY 6,685
NATSUME GBA MEDABOTS AX: METABEE 6,208
NATSUME PS2 HARVEST MOON: SAVE 5,436
NATSUME PS REEL FISHING 4,811
NATSUME GBA MEDABOTS AX: ROKUSHO 4,449
Nintendo:
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NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC 469,014
NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 437,331
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 334,731
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP 285,988
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO 270,092
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA FINAL FANTASY I & II 263,635
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP 246,023
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND 214,921
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS 198,793
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 197,773
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR 192,852
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 152,962
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 146,104
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER 141,663
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND 137,152
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS 121,574
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC 116,560
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG 94,135
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE 85,557
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL 84,135
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 83,179
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN LUIGI'S MANSION 81,963
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA DR. MARIO CLASSIC 79,673
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN ANIMAL CROSSING 75,175
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA PAC-MAN CLASSIC 70,433
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA MARIO KART: CIRCUIT 69,795
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE 65,321
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA DONKEY KONG CLASSIC 64,583
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA POKEMON RUBY 63,664
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA ZELDA II CLASSIC 61,225
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE 54,840
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN PIKMIN 2 53,597
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA ZELDA CLASSIC 48,656
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA 45,588
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN METROID PRIME 43,414
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM 39,668
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA METROID CLASSIC 33,308
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN MARIO PARTY 5 32,708
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA MARIO GOLF ADVANCE 32,181
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS 32,025
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN WARIO WORLD 30,749
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA ZELDA: LINK TO PAST 28,789
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL 27,771
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA METROID ZERO MISSION 26,047
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA CASTLEVANIA CLASSIC 25,455
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA POKEMON-I CHOOSE YOU! 23,358
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA JOHTO PHOTO FINISH 22,316
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA FOR HO-OH BELLS TOLL! 21,805
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK 21,269
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN 1080 AVALANCHE 20,616
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 19,809
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA HAMTARO:HAM-HAM GAMES 19,709
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 18,775
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC 17,716
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA BEACH BLANK-OUT BLAST 15,898
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA BOMBERMAN CLASSIC 15,688
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA KIRBY: NIGHTMARE 15,196
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN F-ZERO GX 14,441
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA FINAL FANTASY TACTICS 14,304
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN STAR FOX ADVENTURES 14,003
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN WARIOWARE INC: PARTY 13,506
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN MARIO PARTY 4 12,971
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA METROID FUSION 12,299
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA FIRE EMBLEM 12,133
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA XEVIOUS CLASSIC 11,935
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN CUSTOM ROBO 10,802
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA SWORD OF MANA 10,541
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN PIKMIN 10,152
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA POKEMON PINBALL: R&S 8,854
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC 8,438
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE 8,252
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA WARIOWARE INC: MEGA 7,912
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA F-ZERO GP LEGEND 7,599
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN POKEMON CHANNEL 7,470
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 4,539
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN ETERNAL DARKNESS 4,004
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN DISNEY MAGICAL MIRROR 3,646
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK 2,576
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN WAVE RACE: BLUE STORM 2,355
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN ZELDA: FOUR W/O CABLE 1,304
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN NBA COURTSIDE 2002 1,160
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GCN PREVIEW DISC 663
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST 547
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY 423
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 395
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA WARIO LAND 4 82
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA GOLDEN SUN 77
NINTENDO OF AMERICA GBA ADVANCE WARS 60
Sega:
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SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS 162,179
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION 117,247
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS 90,133
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 83,198
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SONIC ADVENTURE 2 72,096
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT 55,943
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 53,747
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 SEGA SUPERSTARS 34,355
SEGA OF AMERICA NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX 28,508
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 SONIC HEROES 19,250
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SONIC HEROES 18,337
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX HOUSE OF THE DEAD III 10,664
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4: EVO 10,164
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL BND 10,142
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SONIC MEGA/SONIC DX 9,969
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SONIC ADVT/SONIC DX 9,420
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NFL 2K3 9,246
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX SONIC HEROES 8,779
SEGA OF AMERICA GBA ASTRO BOY
MEGA FACTR 7,684SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SKIES OF ARCADIA LGND 7,225
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN BILLY HATCHER 6,971
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN PHANTASY STAR PLUS 6,868
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN AMAZING ISLAND 6,465
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX OTOGI 2: IMMORTAL 5,795
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 ESPN MLB BASEBALL 5,715
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 ASTRO BOY 5,658
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NFL 2K3 3,496
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX ESPN MLB BASEBALL 3,141
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 ESPN NFL FOOTBALL 2,779
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 2,715
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NIGHTSHADE 2,463
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 2,330
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 2,268
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX SEGA GT ONLINE 2,042
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS 2,004
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX ESPN NFL FOOTBALL 1,941
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN PHANTASY STAR: CARD 1,714
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 BLOOD WILL TELL 1,636
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN NFL 2K3 1,477
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX ESPN NBA BASKETBALL 1,450
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 ESPN NBA BASKETBALL 1,403
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 SHINOBI 1,310
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS 1,055
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX ESPN NHL HOCKEY 1,012
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 SAMURAI JACK: SHADOW 1,007
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN PUYO POP FEVER 935
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX WORLD SER BASEBALL2K3 838
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 ESPN NHL HOCKEY 819
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX CRAZY TAXI 3 775
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 HEADHUNTER:REDEMPTION 726
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 BASS FISHING DUEL 721
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX SEGA GT 2002 712
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX HEADHUNTER:REDEMPTION 681
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NBA 2K3 661
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX PANZER DRAGOON ORTA 620
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX JET SET RADIO FUTURE 586
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX OTOGI: MYTH OF DEMONS 532
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN NBA 2K2 530
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX WORLD SERIES BASEBALL 503
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NHL 2K3 458
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NBA 2K3 455
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 429
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 WORLD SER BASEBALL2K3 406
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SAMURAI JACK: SHADOW 392
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN NHL 2K3 373
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NFL 2K2 351
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 TENNIS 2K2 327
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX TOEJAM & EARL III 306
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 SOCCER SLAM 302
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 298
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX SOCCER SLAM 295
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 274
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX NBA 2K2 272
SEGA OF AMERICA XBX GUNVALKYRIE 254
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN BEACH SPIKERS 245
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN NBA 2K3 242
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN VIRTUA STRIKER 2002 240
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 VIRTUAL-ON MARZ 234
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 FERRARI F355 CHLLNG 206
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NHL 2K3 198
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN HOME RUN KING 177
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN SOCCER SLAM 162
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 AERO ELITE: COMBAT 134
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NFL 2K2 131
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 NBA 2K2 123
SEGA OF AMERICA GBA SEGA RALLY CHAMPNSHIP 119
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 GUNGRAVE 71
SEGA OF AMERICA GBA CHU CHU ROCKET 68
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 KING OF ROUTE 66 50
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN PHANTASY STAR I & II 38
SEGA OF AMERICA PS2 REZ 21
SEGA OF AMERICA GCN NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 10
SEGA OF AMERICA GBA SONIC PINBALL PARTY 3
Sony's Top [a lot]
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SONY (CORP) PS2 JAK 3 389,683
SONY (CORP) PS2 RATCHET & CLANK: UP 315,979
SONY (CORP) PS2 ATV OFF ROAD FURY 3 217,349
SONY (CORP) PS2 KILLZONE 171,062
SONY (CORP) PS2 JAK II 164,673
SONY (CORP) PS2 EYE TOY: ANTIGRAV 162,728
SONY (CORP) PS2 SOCOM II: NAVY SEALS 151,293
SONY (CORP) PS2 RATCHET & CLANK:GOING 128,475
SONY (CORP) PS2 SLY 2:BAND OF THIEVES 128,377
SONY (CORP) PS2 ATV OFF ROAD FURY 2 91,875
SONY (CORP) PS2 GRAN TURISMO 3:A-SPEC 74,667
SONY (CORP) PS2 EYE TOY 62,404
SONY (CORP) PS2 RATCHET & CLANK 49,024
SONY (CORP) PS2 JET LI: RISE TO HONOR 47,237
SONY (CORP) PS CRASH TEAM RACING 40,117
SONY (CORP) PS2 MLB 2005 38,704
SONY (CORP) PS2 JAMPACK VOLUME 11 34,833
SONY (CORP) PS2 SLY COOPER & THIEVIUS 33,265
SONY (CORP) PS SPYRO: YEAR OF DRAGON 32,749
SONY (CORP) PS2 HOT SHOTS GOLF 3 29,195
SONY (CORP) PS CRASH BASH 28,832
SONY (CORP) PS2 HOT SHOTS GOLF FORE! 27,203
SONY (CORP) PS CRASH BANDICOOT 2 26,662
SONY (CORP) PS2 JAK AND DAXTER:LEGACY 26,403
SONY (CORP) PS FINAL FANTASY VII 24,547
SONY (CORP) PS2 GRETZKY NHL 2005 23,098
SONY (CORP) PS2 EYE TOY:GROOVE W/CMRA 22,950
SONY (CORP) PS2 CLASSIC MONSTERS INC 22,672
SONY (CORP) PS2 SOCOM W/O HEADSET 22,140
SONY (CORP) PS GRAN TURISMO 2 21,955
SONY (CORP) PS CRASH BANDICOOT WARP 21,181
SONY (CORP) PS2 SYPHON FILTER: OMEGA 19,125
SONY (CORP) PS2 EYE TOY:GRVE W/O CMRA 18,233
SONY (CORP) PS2 FINAL FANTASY XI W/HD 16,695
Squenix's Top Ten:
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SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) GBA KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN 539,847
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS 116,399
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS2 FINAL FANTASY X-2 62,392
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS2 STAR OCEAN: TILL END 48,879
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS2 FINAL FANTASY X 33,857
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS FINAL FANTASY VIII 13,196
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS FINAL FANTASY ANTHLGY 12,624
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS FINAL FANTASY ORIGINS 12,333
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS2 FRONT MISSION 4 10,505
SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) PS FINAL FANTASY CHRNCLS 10,142
Tecmo's Top 10:
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TECMO XBX DEAD OR ALIVE ULTMATE 49,764
TECMO XBX DEAD OR ALIVE 3 14,368
TECMO XBX NINJA GAIDEN 9,960
TECMO PS2 GALLOP RACER 2004 4,912
TECMO XBX FATAL FRAME II DIR CT 3,831
TECMO PS2 MONSTER RANCHER 4 2,492
TECMO PS2 FATAL FRAME II 2,461
TECMO XBX GUNGRIFFON: ALLIED 2,205
TECMO PS2 RYGAR:LEGENDARY ADVNT 1,673
TECMO XBX DOA: BEACH VOLLEYBALL 1,247
Working Designs:
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WORKING DESIGNS PS2 GROWLANSER:GENERATION 20,780
WORKING DESIGNS PS2 GROWLANSER:GNRTNS DLX 10,199
WORKING DESIGNS PS2 GUNGRIFFON BLAZE 400
WORKING DESIGNS PS ARC THE LAD COLLECTN 204
WORKING DESIGNS PS2 SILPHEED: LOST PLANET 160
WORKING DESIGNS PS SILHOUETTE MIRAGE 30
WORKING DESIGNS PS LUNAR 2:ETERNAL BLUE 11
Post by: Mario on January 14, 2005, 10:42:04 PM
Also, more numbers! Updated totals!
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,662,240
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,817,460
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,804,207
The Wind Waker: 1,750,154
Luigi's Mansion: 1,591,468
Metroid Prime: 1,264,193
Mario Party 4: 962,264
Animal Crossing: 893,126
Mario Party 5: 807,331
Star Fox Adventures: 797,818
Pokemon Colosseum: 738,117
Pikmin: 669,300
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 548,023
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 529,655
Mario Party 6: 469,014
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 462,424
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 411,433
Kirby Air Ride: 393,683
Wave Race: 329,949
Four Swords Adventures: 313,733
Mario Power Tennis: 296,893
Donkey Konga: 294,379
F-Zero GX: 281,938
Eternal Darkness: 280,927
Pikmin 2: 247,258
Wario World: 239,011
Preview Disk: 171,780
Pokemon Channel: 166,966
NBA Courtside 2002: 159,402
Custom Robo: 158,577
Magical Mirror: 121,169
1080 Avalanche: 114,731
Wario Ware Inc: 109,329
Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 199,865
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 192,269
Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 48,019
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 35,314
Viewtiful Joe (GC): 291,494
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 66,478
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 61,805
Viewtiful Joe 2 (PS2): 18,427
Resident Evil Zero: 433,015
Resident Evil: 480,526
Resident Evil 2: 35,828
Resident Evil 3: 48,726
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 33,721
La Pucelle: Tactics: 58,373 (Missing December 2K4)
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader: 873,767
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike: 472,974
Soul Calibur (GC): 766,621
Soul Calibur (PS2): 708,965
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 509,506
Tales of Symphonia: 279,697
Baten Kaitos: 59,951
TimeSplitters 2:
PS2 270,256
GCN 247,870
XBX 221,535
I just get this warm fuzzy feeling when I read sales, maybe there's something wrong with me.
The Wind Waker has already outsold Majora's Mask, and Paper Mario 2 has already outsold Paper Mario.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 15, 2005, 03:17:21 AM
People actually buy Super Monkey Ball 2. WHOO!
Viewtiful Joe 2 GC will soon pull ahead of Viewtiful Joe PS2. WHOO!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 15, 2005, 08:47:25 AM
Post by: zelos_rules on January 15, 2005, 01:46:55 PM
And do you have the Day of Reckoning numbers? ...as compared to the Raw series and previous gcn wrestling games
thanks
Post by: nickmitch on January 16, 2005, 06:47:11 PM
Post by: vudu on January 25, 2005, 11:21:06 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on January 26, 2005, 07:20:03 AM
I guess at the end of the day, I don't care why, I'm just glad the sales were up!
Post by: Caillan on February 04, 2005, 11:01:18 AM
The DS sold poorly; worse than the PSP and worse than the PS2. The PSP and DS accounted for 38 and 22 percent of the total console sales respectively.
Post by: mjbd on February 04, 2005, 12:11:55 PM
Post by: xts3 on February 07, 2005, 08:17:49 PM
Post by: mjbd on February 08, 2005, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: Mario on February 08, 2005, 04:45:20 PM
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Eternal Darkness sold 280k copies here in the US, but world wide its probably closer to 500k.
Hahaha, no way. It tanked in Japan and only sold about 40,000 there lifetime, and GC is doing terrible in Europe so I would be surprised if it it reached 100,000 there (i'd guess 50,000), but then again F-Zero GX also flopped in Japan and Europe, but not as hard as Eternal Darkness.
Post by: Caillan on February 08, 2005, 04:50:21 PM
On a side note, the theme of the Tokyo Game Show 2005 is 'online gaming'. Unless Nintendo decide to show the Revolution there, they're going to lose their hype a year before the new consoles launch.
Post by: Mario on February 08, 2005, 04:53:05 PM
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2005, 03:44:37 AM
Hopefully this game will sell steadily and pick up some good sales from word of mouth... because if Resident Evil 4 can't sell on GameCube, nothing can. (besides the upcoming Zelda)
Post by: Ian Sane on February 09, 2005, 06:21:54 AM
"if Resident Evil 4 can't sell on GameCube, nothing can."
Exactly. That's what happens when you wait until the console is non-factor before releasing the games people want to buy. I don't even think Zelda will sell Cubes because realisticly no one "converts" this late. A console maker pretty much has the first year or so to get people's attention and if they can't do that then it just isn't going to happen. The Gamecube is like a TV show that sucked for the first season so everyone checked it out for a few shows and then stopped watching. Meanwhile the second season was much much better and the third season was amazing but since no one knows how great it has become the ratings are still low.
In a way Resident Evil is like that too. People just might not know that RE4 is so great and reinvents the series. Capcom milked RE pretty hard and anyone who lost interest in the formula may just be assuming that it's more of the same. I have seen ads for RE4 and they're good ads but they don't really give any indication that the series has been reinvented.
And the Japan game market is apparently shrinking so we should really focus on RE4's American sales since that's where the money is.
Post by: zelos_rules on February 09, 2005, 09:16:33 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2005, 10:52:25 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2005, 01:19:25 PM
Enterbrain Weekly (31st Jan - 5th Feb) #1
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1. Super Robot Wars OG 2 - GBA - 116,000 (116k)
2. Radiata Stories - PS2 - 43,000 (233k)
3. Another Century's Episode - PS2 - 37,000 (212k)
4. Bioharzard 4 - GC - 29,000 (174k)
5. Exciting Pro-wrestling 6 - PS2 - 27,000 (27k)
6. Catch! Touch! Yoshi! - NDS - 26,000 (78k)
7. Gran Turismo 4 - PS2 - 19,000 (966k)
8. Monster Hunter G - PS2 - 14,000 (173k)
9. Sawaru Made in Wario - NDS - 14,000 (641k)
10. Super Mario 64 DS - NDS - 13,000 (619k)
11. Minna no Golf - PSP - 13,000 (277k)
12. DDS Avatar Tuner 2 - PS2 - 12,000 (67k)
13. Death by Degrees - PS2 - 12,000 (51k)
14. Mario Party Advance - GBA - 11,000 (127k)
15. Dragon Quest 8 - PS2 - 9,800 (3.439mil)
16. DQ&FF Itadaki Street Special - PS2 - 8,800 (350k)
17. Mahou Sensei Negima! - PS2 - 8,800 (45k)
18. Pachislot Yoshimune - PS2 - 8,800 (378k)
19. Top wo Nerae - PS2 - 8,600 (8.6k)
20. Dynasty Warriors - PSP - 7,800 (207k)
PSP: 51,000 (750k)
PS2: 49,000
NDS: 35,000 (1.582milj
GBA SP: 20,000
NGC: 5,200
XBX: 300
GBA: 500
Post by: mantidor on February 09, 2005, 03:14:29 PM
Post by: zelos_rules on February 16, 2005, 02:41:56 PM
Post by: vudu on February 16, 2005, 03:47:41 PM
(Note: These came from gamesarefun.com.
January 2005 NPD sales numbers:
Mercenaries (PS2, Xbox): 384,000 total
Resident Evil 4 (GC): 319,000
Need for Speed Underground 2 (PS2, Xbox, GameCube): 142,000 + 86,000 + 22,000 = 250,000
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2): 241,000
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (GBA): 217,000
NFL Street 2: (PS2, Xbox, & GC) 188,000 total
Halo 2 (Xbox): 124,000
The Punisher (PS2, Xbox): 61,000 + 62,000 = 123,000 total
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2): 66,000
MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf (Xbox): 59,000
The Getaway: Black Monday (PS2): 45,000
WWE SmackDown! Vs. Raw (PS2): 42,000
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath (Xbox): 28,317
RE4 isn't doing too shabby. It's no Halo 2, obviously, but sales are fairly stellar. I'm hoping they stay up there.
Post by: Mario on February 16, 2005, 03:54:48 PM
Top ten overall appear to be
1.) Resident Evil 4 - 319,197
2.) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 241,105
3.) Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - 216,969
4.) Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction (XBOX) - 201,139
5.) Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction (PS2) - 182,621
6.) Need for Speed: Underground 2 (PS2) - 142,465
7.) Madden NFL 2005 (PS2) - 125,264
8.) Halo 2 - 124,027
9.) Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories - 110,297
10.) Super Mario 64 DS - 109,087
Pretty good sales for Minish Cap too! No hardware sales yet...
Post by: mantidor on February 16, 2005, 04:08:06 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2005, 04:28:20 PM
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Software
platform title publisher this week total market price
1 PS2 Dragonball Z3 Bandai 413,000 413,000 up
2 PSP Popolocrois Monogatari: Pietro Ouji no Bouken SCEJ 32,000 32,000 level
3 PS2 Shinsengumi Gunraw-den Sega 21,000 21,000 level
4 PS2 Shin Dekotora Densetsu Spike 20,000 20,000 level
5 DS Catch! Touch! Yoshi! Nintendo 20,000 99,000 dropping
6 PS2 Radiata Stories Square Enix 19,000 253,000 steep drop
7 PS2 Another Century's Episode Bandai 15,000 228,000 level
8 PS2 Gran Turismo 4 SCE 15,000 982,000 dropping
9 GBA Super Robot Taisen Original Generarion 2 Banpresto 15,000 132,000 level
10 GC biohazard 4 Capcom 14,000 189,000 level
11 DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo 11,000 652,000
12 DS Super Mario 64DS Nintendo 11,000 620,000
13 PSP Minna no Golf Portable SCE 11,000 288,000
14 PS2 Ichigo 100% Strawberry Diary Tomy 10,000 10,000
15 GBA Mario Party Advance Nintendo 10,000 137,000
16 PS2 Monster Hunter G Capcom 9,700 182,000
17 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himegimi Square Enix 9,300 3,448,000
18 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Yoshimune Daito 8,000 386,000
19 GBA Pocket Monsters Emerald Pokemon 7,000 1,448,000
20 PSP Shin Sangoku Musou
Hardware
platform this week total
1 PlayStation Portable 52,000 802,000
2 PlayStation 2 49,000
3 Nintendo DS 30,000 1,612,000
4 GameBoy Advance SP 20,000
5 GameCube 3,400
6 GameBoy Advance 600
7 Xbox 300
Post by: Mario on February 16, 2005, 05:26:27 PM
GCN VIRTUA QUEST $12,714 - 321
GameCube wins! Excellent debut for Virtua Fighter Quest!
Post by: mantidor on February 16, 2005, 06:11:45 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 16, 2005, 07:13:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Mario
PS2 VIRTUA QUEST $10,272 - 258
GCN VIRTUA QUEST $12,714 - 321
GameCube wins! Excellent debut for Virtua Fighter Quest!
Pai Mei sez: VICTOLY!!
Think of all the money Sega would've saved had they NOT developed the PS2 version! There's still the problem of Sega developing on Xbox tho. That's a different battle. And knowing is half the battle. But Sega lost that half already but they don't realize it yet and it shows.
Post by: vudu on February 17, 2005, 08:20:30 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 17, 2005, 08:30:12 AM
More like "Think of all the money Sega would've save had they not developed that game at ALL."
I'm glad to see RE4 was the top seller for January. See how it works third parties? Release GOOD games that people with intelligence and good taste will buy and release it when there aren't 10 other great games being released at the same time and you make money!
Post by: 1day on February 17, 2005, 09:31:48 AM
PS2: 488,000
Xbox: 241,000
Gamecube: 114,000
Something terribly wrong is going on when the best selling game of the month (and very appealing) doesn't push hardware sales worth a damn.
I can only wonder how much impact the ps2 annoucement really made considering these sales.
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 17, 2005, 09:53:54 AM
Not really... all you're seeing is that most of the people who wanted to play RE4 already bought a Cube for RE1.
I bet you'll see the same thing come Zelda.
Post by: couchmonkey on February 18, 2005, 04:50:37 AM
Having said that, I also think there's also a bigger audience for RE4 than has bought into GameCube. I think the PS2 announcement had a slight impact, but I think the GameCube's image had even more to do with it. People were intrigued by but ignored RE4 because they think (possibly correctly) that it will be the only game they want to play on the Cube between now and the release of the next-gen systems.
Edit: Ummm...so what's my point? I do agree that a lot of people have already bought the console for the games they want, but I don't think everyone has. And I think the reason for that is that Nintendo only has one or two games a year that these people really want. Resident Evil 4 and Zelda aren't reason enough alone to buy a GameCube for some people when they could be playing Final Fantasy Ad Naseum.
Post by: vudu on February 18, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on February 18, 2005, 06:26:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: kingvudu
Pardon my ignorance, but what is Popolocrois Monogatari: Pietro Ouji no Bouken?
Its a remake of popolocrois one and two from the PS1.
Post by: Rancid Planet on February 19, 2005, 10:59:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I think there's a HUGE Zelda audience that did not buy a Cube for the Wind Waker. I honestly believe the cel shading killed the game for Joe Gamer...
You may be right there but Paladin still has a point. The amount of GCNs sold that the next Zelda game is responsible for may be numerous. But it won't be like what the Wind Waker accomplished. Sure, many gamers wanted something other than the cell shaded look that they got from WW but most of them bought the game (and a GCN too if they didn't have one) anyway. My point is just that the next Zelda game along with the new RE game won't be system sellers the way that their precursors have been.
Post by: Gamebasher on February 23, 2005, 05:50:39 AM
He had already heard about the change in the visual style from Wind Waker (which he had played), but he was not interested at that point. But once I told him about the changes in gameplay, he was suddenly very interested, and said he will take a look at it when it is shown to us via E3. He will of course have ample opportunity to try out the new game in the EB Games shop where he works, once it comes out.
The manager of the shop told me how he had been drooling over the cinematics (how, for instance, the camera zooms into being the enemy, looking at you exploring an area just outside a house where he is inside), graphics and gameplay of RE4, and he was sure it would sell heavily to a new audience (see? This proves in this case that while people want outstanding graphics to go hand-in-hand with outstanding gameplay, it is still gameplay innovation which turns heads the most!). I think it, along with Zelda will. RE4 wont come out on any other platform until a year later, and I don´t think that people who see THAT game will be capable of waiting that long...
This straight from the hotbed of gamesales in my area, but I think it is the same wherever you go. People like Zelda, but mostly so when the graphics are realistic like is the case with so many other games.
When the Zelda game is shown at E3, there will be mad raves of satisfaction heard a mile or so away from E3 itself, making outsiders think a herd of animals is inside! I, too, will be raving like a maniac! Making people think I am an elephant!
Zelda rules all!
Hope that game comes out at the same time worldwide. Fingers crossed, then.
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2005, 07:45:00 AM
QuoteWow. I'm absolutely dumb-struck. How is it possible not to know about these games? I suppose I can understand never playing these games, but not even knowing of their existance? Does this guy consider himself a gamer?
an employee at EB Games had not played any Zelda game since the SNES days, and didn´t even know about OOT or MM
Post by: Gamebasher on February 24, 2005, 05:50:16 AM
I have no other explanation for this behaviour!
Post by: The Omen on February 25, 2005, 04:39:33 PM
Quote
think there's a HUGE Zelda audience that did not buy a Cube for the Wind Waker. I honestly believe the cel shading killed the game for Joe Gamer...I have a friend...oops, never mind, no anecdotal evidence! NO! Anyway, I still think that there are a lot of people who were turned off by Wind Waker's style and either never gave it a chance, or played it and still hated the graphics so much that they didn't like it.
I disagree. Most of Zelda's huge audience bought GC at launch. So they may have been disappointed, but they alrready owned the GC, so it had only moderate impact.
Post by: Mario on March 11, 2005, 04:37:42 AM
Hardware
PS2 = 533,000
Xbox = 212,000
GCN = 116,000
US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony
2 PS2 NBA STREET V3 Electronic A rts
3 PS2 GRAND THEFT: ANDRE A S Take Two Interactive
4 XBX NBA STREET V3 Electronic A rts
5 PS2 M ERCENARIES LucasArts
6 GCN RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom
7 PS2 CHAMPIONS:RETURN ARMS Sony
8 XBX MERCENARIES LucasArts
9 PS2 XENOSAGA EPISODE II Namco
10 GCN STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo
11 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
12 GBA ZELDA: THE M INISH CAP Nintendo
13 PS2 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 E lectronic A rts
14 XBX HALO 2 Microsoft
15 GCN NBA STREET V3 Electronic A rts
16 PS2 TEKKEN 5 Tecmo
17 NDS WARIO WARE: TOUCHED! Nintendo
18 NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS Nintendo
19 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
20 PS2 THE PUNISHER THQ
21 PS2 NFL STREET 2 Electronic A rts
22 PS2 NBA L IVE 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
23 XBX MVP BASEBALL 2 0 0 5 Electronic A rts
24 XBX NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 E lectronic A rts
25 PS2 SHADOW OF ROME Capcom
Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS
PS2
1 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony 30,527,340 $ 618,559
2 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts 10,424,910 $ 212,773
3 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS Take-Two Interactive 7,634,198 $ 159,167
4 MERCENARIES LucasArts 5,238,154 $ 105,198
5 CHAMPIONS:RETURN ARMS Sony 5,023,108 $ 102,167
Xbox
1 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts 5,731,482 $ 117,251
2 MERCENARIES LucasArts 4,766,979 $ 95,825
3 HALO 2 Microsoft 3,581,293 $ 74,676
4 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts 2,639,682 $ 88,429
5 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 Electronic Arts 2,237,533 $ 44,957
GCN
1 RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 5,205,004 $ 103,455
2 STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo 4,414,608 $ 89,246
3 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts 3,508,036 $ 70,750
4 MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC Nintendo 2,079,134 $ 41,871
5 MARIO POWER TENNIS Nintendo 1,180,361 $ 23,744
Handhelds
1 ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP Nintendo 3,768,164 $ 123,736
2 WARIOWARE: TOUCHED! Nintendo 3,089,347 $ 88,796
3 SUPER MARIO 64 DS Nintendo 2,973,033 $ 97,963
4 KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN Square Enix 1,941,077 $ 55,658
5 POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP Nintendo 1,608,479 $ 46,397
Post by: couchmonkey on March 11, 2005, 05:43:06 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 11, 2005, 06:18:06 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on March 11, 2005, 07:52:12 AM
Edit...maybe the PStwo redesign boosted sales. That's my only guess.
Post by: vudu on March 11, 2005, 08:25:50 AM
Mario, where are DS numbers?
Post by: mjbd on March 11, 2005, 12:22:28 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 11, 2005, 09:54:52 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 12, 2005, 11:04:56 AM
Software
1. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 / Koei / 129,000 / 699,000
2. PSP Tales of Eternia / Namco / 81,000 / 81,000
3. GBA Rockman EXE 5 Team of Colonel / Capcom / 38,000 / 101,000
4. GC Starfox Assault / Nintendo / 30,000 / 110,000
5. PS2 Dragonball Z / Bandai / 27,000 / 588,000
6. GC Harvest Moon: Song of Happiness / Marvellous / 21,000 / 21,000
7. DS Another Code: Two Memories / Nintendo / 20,000 / 80,000
8. PS2 Devil May Cry 3 / Capcom / 18,000 / 252,000
9. PS2 Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star+ / Sega / 17,000 / 66,000
10. PSP Namco Museum / Namco / 12,000 / 34,000
Hardware
PSP - 47,633
PS2 - 44,228
DS - 25,759
GBASP - 12,307
GC - 3,635
GBA - 398
Xbox - 177
Post by: Renny on March 12, 2005, 03:58:04 PM
Post by: Nosferat2 on March 13, 2005, 07:54:46 AM
Anyway what do these numbers mean? RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 5,205,004 $ 103,455
Thanks
Post by: IceCold on March 13, 2005, 12:16:44 PM
Anyway it means that RE4 has sold 103,000 copies or w/e that month and that equals $5,000,000 or w/e for that month (February)
Post by: Nosferat2 on March 13, 2005, 06:00:57 PM
Post by: IceCold on March 13, 2005, 06:55:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Thanks Icecold for clearing that up. But can you tell me what "w/e" stands for so that i competely understand your post. Thanks.
Haha thank YOU for making me laugh for the first time today (actually probably the 5th time after watching Arrested Development)
Anyway, I was in a rush to write the message that instead of saying "whatever" I said "w/e". I know it looks a bit funny but I just use it sometimes as an abbreviation
Post by: Nosferat2 on March 14, 2005, 07:19:38 AM
BTW anyone know how to change screen names? I misspelled mine. Didnt see anything in the profile page.
Thanks
Nosfera2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2005, 09:24:06 AM
platform title publisher this week total
1 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Koei 61,920 760,978
2 PS2 Sangokushi X Koei 30,541 new
3 PSP Tales of Eternia Namco 30,489 111,139
4 DS Pac Pix Namco 30,173 new
5 GBA Sennen Kazoku Nintendo 27,552 new
6 DS Meteos Bandai 22,304 new
7 PS2 Dragon Ball Z3 Bandai 18,050 606,267
8 PS2 Ys Napishtim no Hako Konami 16,490 new
9 GC Star Fox Assault Nintendo 15,240 125,573
10 PS2 Rockman X8 Capcom 14,927 new
platform this week last week 2005 total
1 PSP 46,307 47,633 536,476
2 PlayStation 2 41,349 44,228 562,046
3 Nintendo DS 26,537 25,759 407,099
4 GameBoy Advance SP 14,596 12,307 186,753
5 GameCube 4,245 3,635 66,659
6 Gameboy Advance 616 398 5,776
7 Xbox 244 177 4,261
Post by: nolimit19 on March 22, 2005, 11:25:57 AM
Post by: Mario on March 22, 2005, 01:21:29 PM
Post by: SgtShiversBen on March 22, 2005, 01:30:05 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 22, 2005, 09:01:58 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on March 23, 2005, 01:28:00 AM
I understand this is an American mindframe as well but not nearly on the same commercial level as Japan.
edit: I kneed two lirn to spal butter.
Post by: Renny on March 23, 2005, 06:24:05 AM
There is some drive in America to have the latest-and-greatest gadget. But we're also very value-minded. The PS2 came with a free DVD player! The iPod is also percieved to have value, for some reason. I don't see the PSP having the same mass appeal as either of those two without generating a real interest in the games as well. UMD movies and music will fail here, period. So that won't promote the system. Nor will its MP3 abilities when other better MP3 players are so prolific. MemoryStick-based video playback will be underused here as it's too complicated for most.
Sony will have to make portable games 'cool' for the PSP to succeed. They stand a better chance at that than Nintendo, obviously. But till then it's still a niche product.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 23, 2005, 06:57:37 AM
Your mention of the iPod somewhat contradicts your point, westerners don't buy for value, they buy for the bragging rights (not exclusively but the japanese don't buy exclusively for the gadgetry, either). When asked by the police to wear no-name earphones instead of the iPod ones many iPod users said that'd defeat the purpose of the device.
In other words, they buy what's cool and what they think will make their peers respect them.
And remember, superiority was never a deciding factor in the tech world. The iPod sells despite superior alternatives, everybody went with the x86 and Windows, AOL is the most used online service, etc.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 23, 2005, 07:11:31 AM
In software its been pathetic, one games selling 100K in two weeks isn't going to cut it for sony.
Post by: Renny on March 23, 2005, 07:42:02 AM
About value though: your reference to police suggests you're talking about the UK where iPod phones are like flaming white hot 'mug me' flags. The US is in a very different economic state than the UK. Game prices have been held at an artificially low price here even after the bubble burst to maintain sales. We're much more value-minded than the UK. Over here the iPod's success seems to be largely attributable to ignorance; everything else is a knock-off iPod. To be fair though, there's no clear 'superior alternative' to the iPod. Some may offer competitive value, but there's no real winner... besides Apple's bankroll, obviously.
And more on-topic: ToE's sales still pale in comparison to what Mario and Wario have done. This seems to be when they dropped from the charts. If the PSP's install base is now at about half the DS's, why is its biggest game selling so moderately? Mario and Wario debuted at ~150k when there were only 500k DSes.
Anyway you're trying to prove game quality through sales figures. A contradiction of your latter statements. So this debate was doomed to begin with.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 23, 2005, 10:14:46 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on March 23, 2005, 10:59:40 PM
Just a concern I have. You don't share it too? Okay then, back to SM64...the same game I've been playing on my DS since I bought it.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2005, 01:32:35 PM
Japan charts: Media Create 14 - 20 Mar
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Software:
1. PS2 Phantom Kingdom (incl. ltd ed) - Nippon Ichi - 73,000
2. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 - Koei - 38,000 - 799,000
3. PS2 One Piece Grand Battle! Rush - Bandai - 37,000
4. NGC Donkey Konga 3 - Nintendo - 37,000
5. PS2 Ensnoozia - Konami - 31,000
6. PS2 Nana - Konami - 30,000
7. NDS Harvest Moon: Corobockle Station - Marvellous - 28,000
8. NGC One Piece Grand Battle! Rush - Bandai - 22,000
9. PSP Sarugetchu P! - SCE - 20,000
10. PSP Tales of Eternia - Namco - 20,000 - 131,000
Hardware:
PSP 43,644
PS2 40,270
DS 22,446
GBASP 11,013
GC 3,357
GBA 477
Xbox 345
DS - 1,925,141
PSP - 1,062,372
Post by: IceCold on March 25, 2005, 10:08:30 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on March 25, 2005, 10:15:00 PM
Post by: IceCold on March 25, 2005, 11:03:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
The GBA was discontinued. They aren't making them anymore.
Thanks, I didn't know what discontinued meant.
Just kidding - I don't think you meant it that way
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2005, 04:11:15 PM
March 21-27Hardware
DS - 55,825
PSP - 43,043
PS2 - 40,398
GBASP - 14,904
GC - 4,568
GBA - 653
Xbox - 406
Software:
1. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - Konami - 238,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 Wild Arms The 4th Detonator - SCE - 131,000 (NEW)
3. NDS Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 75,000 (NEW)
4. PS2 Shining Force Neo - Sega - 63,000 (NEW)
5. PSP Bleach: Heat the Soul - SCE - 37,000 (NEW)
6. NDS Egg Monster Hero - Square Enix - 31,000 (NEW)
7. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 - Koei - 26,000 (825,000)
8. PS2 Phantom Kingdom - Nippon Ichi - 17,000 (90,000)
9. NDS Harvest Moon Corobockle Station - Marvellous - 17,000 (45,000)
10. NGC Donkey Konga 3 Tabehoudai - Nintendo - 16,000 (53,000)
Surprise surprise, looks like the DS is back at the top of the sales charts again!!!!!!
well................. at least for this week.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 31, 2005, 04:46:15 PM
I'm glad DS is kicking ass...
World Soccer Winning Eleven 8.....*drools*
Post by: IceCold on March 31, 2005, 04:49:04 PM
Post by: IceCold on March 31, 2005, 04:59:05 PM
Post by: Caterkiller on April 01, 2005, 06:39:09 AM
Post by: IceCold on April 01, 2005, 07:40:24 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 01, 2005, 07:50:50 PM
(For anyone that for some reason can't tell what this thread is about, it's where weekly game sales from japan or monthly U.S. sales (NPD) are discussed)
Post by: IceCold on April 01, 2005, 08:32:44 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 01, 2005, 08:45:24 PM
But I still got to play.
Post by: mantidor on April 04, 2005, 09:05:59 AM
what was it? dont worry, I think Ill be able to handle it ^_^
Post by: Mario on April 04, 2005, 08:59:33 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 05, 2005, 12:52:12 AM
Post by: mantidor on April 05, 2005, 08:26:02 AM
a little question, how much has RE4 sold overall? Im curious
Post by: Mario on April 05, 2005, 06:14:46 PM
It's out in Europe but there's no numbers from there, all I know is it shot to the top of the charts then sold out and moved down really far due to lack of supply, probably because they didn't expect a GameCube game to sell
So, decent numbers in the US, it's easily going to outsell RE and RE0 there, but disappointing in Japan, and unknown in Europe.
Post by: mantidor on April 05, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 05, 2005, 06:39:53 PM
Post by: Mario on April 05, 2005, 06:40:21 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on April 06, 2005, 10:08:27 AM
Post by: IceCold on April 06, 2005, 01:09:46 PM
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 06, 2005, 06:33:52 PM
Thanks
Post by: Caterkiller on April 06, 2005, 06:46:07 PM
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2005, 07:09:48 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 06, 2005, 07:19:29 PM
EDIT: Mario beat me to it - wow we nearly said the exact same thing
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 06, 2005, 07:51:23 PM
Any idea why the games has been discontinued if it sold so well?
Is Namco acting like dumbasses agian...
Thanks For all your reponses.
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2005, 08:02:32 PM
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 06, 2005, 08:12:28 PM
The reason i stayed away from TOS is the Battle system. I hate real time RPG's. I like the classic turn based system of old. I have a sour taste in my mouth from Final Fantasy CC. That hack and slash stuff does not appeal to me. I hated FFCC because it was simply a button masher, incredibly boring (almost as boring as baldur's gate). That coupled with a thin story made FFCC a horrible game. Visually and musically it was absolutely superb though.
So the question is, Is TOS a button masher or is there some form of stategy involved, beyond hitting the button as fast as you can and moving around?
Ive read the reviews, but i dont think they do a good job of explaining the battle system.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2005, 08:20:30 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 06, 2005, 10:31:38 PM
. Specials are executed in the same way SSBM uses and developing combos is crucial. Proper defense and offense timing will greatly decrease the damage you take. I think a just-defense will completely negate the damage you would take.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2005, 10:50:44 PM
Melee fighting in TOS is based on a combo system. The characters, by default, have a 2-3hit "A-A-A" button-mash combo. That's the BARE-MINIMUM method of offense the game provides. But, since it approaches the mechanics of a fighting game, those first 2-3hits simply mark the beginning of your combo chain, where you can immediately follow the initial combo with special attacks/techniques. These "techs" are mapped to the controller (customizable) similarly to Super Smash Bros. Melee, where a technique is associated with a direction+button press. If you're familiar with Roy/Marth's multi-hit "Sword Dance" combo in SSBM, then you have some idea how these commands link to each other when performing the combo (the timing in TOS more forgiving, btw).
Now, you could go on and live thru the game tapping "A-A-A" all the time, but that doesn't mean the game is boring, that makes YOU boring. The game encourages the use of combos, since that's the key to doing the greatest amount of damage. Some characters can achieve 10-20hit combos on their own, while magick users' spells may also inflict multiple hits. Plus, they can all focus on the same enemy to chain their attacks and contribute to the overall hit count (which the game keeps track of). And yes, there's a blocking function. If you're swingin' away, and the enemy is blocking your attacks, you're leaving yourself open when your character recovers at the end of the combo; and vice versa.
Things to be aware of, you're not on a free-roaming plane. Your character (and all characters) maintains a 2D "fighting game" plane with a target enemy, which reinforces why it controls similar to Smash Bros. (2D button commands). You may change your lock-on to a different enemy at any time, easily. Traversing the field is not perfect, but i'd still give Namco a pat on the back. Being a Tales game, and real-time, special techniques are brief and to-the-point in comparison to turn-based RPGs that like to present attacks almost as if they were mini-mini-cutscenes. So, the action may stay fast & hectic, and LOTS of flashy things maybe going on in the battle field at the same time.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 07, 2005, 07:16:04 AM
I imagine it's for shelf space. Stores only have so much space to use so they want to make sure what on the shelf is what's selling ie: new games, big hits & player's choice titles. Tales of Symphonia isn't new any more and isn't the type of game that will have consistent sales. So stores don't really want to get more copies of it. Since the stores don't want it there's no point for Namco to waste resources making more copies. You see this all the time with the GBA where aside from first party titles games will be gone after mere months on the shelf. At Christmas I can't find third party GBA games released before September.
This is just what I think is the reason. I don't really have any facts to back it up.
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 07, 2005, 01:11:38 PM
Something that suprised me at Fry's was that i saw 2 new copies of Resident EVil 2 for the gamecube! I scoured the internet and almost every store within 40 minutes drive and could never find a new copy. So i got one off eBay. Now they must have just got those copies themselves cause i have been going to Fry;s forever and i have never seen Resident Evil 2 there.
I was under the impression that it was discontinued. Did Capcom reissue Resident Evil 2 again recently or did Frys have them hiding in a warehouse somewhere and finally put them on the shelves?
It was only 29 bucks so i snatched a copy of that too. In case i ever scratch my copy or lose it. There is one left so if your in Sacramento California go snatch it up(if in fact it is still discontinued).
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 07, 2005, 10:52:09 PM
TOP 10 Weekly Software Sales (March 28 - April 3, 2005)
1 PS2 - Tekken 5 / Namco / 2005.03.31 / 174,064
2 PS2 - World Soccer Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution / Konami / 2005.03.24 / 66,953
3 DS - Kirby Canvas Curse DS / Nintendo 2005.03.24 / 32,766
4 PS2 - Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator (incl. Limited Edition) / SCE / 2005.03.24 / 26,998
5 PS2 - Shining Force Neo / Sega / 2005.03.24 / 18,352
6 PS2 - Memories Off After Rain Vol.3 Sotsugyou (incl. Limited Edition) / Kid / 2005.03.31 / 17,845
7 PS2 - Dynasty Warriors 5 (incl. Limited Edition and Version with PS2) / Koei / 2005.02.24 / 16,853
8 GBA - Mega Man Battle Network 5: Team of Colonel / Capcom / 2005.02.24 / 12,028
9 DS - Egg Monster Hero / Square Enix / 2005.03.24 / 11,647
10 PSP - BLEACH: Beat the Soul / SCE / 2005.03.24 / 10,457
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PS2 - 44,117
DS - 43,023
PSP - 33,911
GBASP - 17,710
GC - 3,754
GBA - 1,074
Xbox - 335
And it appears that that the DS has pulled ahead of the PSP for yet another week in a row, unfortunately just falling just short of 1st place, which would goto PS2 with a lead of about 1,100.
PS2 (12:1) GC (11:1) xbox as it stands now
Tune in next week for yet another update on 'How Japan Sells!!!'
Post by: KDR_11k on April 10, 2005, 07:51:53 AM
Collette is the only one with "boomerangs" (actually chakrams) but doesn't have ponytails so I presume you mean Presea in which case I need to inform you that that "boomerang" is a big f###ing axe. Half the characters are kids but the rest are adults. Lloyd is kinda dumb but doesn't have that annoying tendency to commit completely stupid acts like Final Fantasy heroes do so I prefer him. He's no Ryudo but not much of an issue, either. The story involves loads of violence and death (as par for somewhat darker anime) but not really graphic violence. It's more behind the scenes.
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 10, 2005, 10:04:32 AM
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 10, 2005, 10:00:23 PM
As for TOS if it includes lots of violence and death then im sure to enjoy it despite the kids and behind the scenes violence. The story and character building are the most important aspects of an RPG, so even if the battle system sucks ass ill be able to overlook it if the other two are compelling.
But even a RPG with a good story, character building and battle system, doesnt always appeal to me, eg. Paper Mario. I know most will be quick to jump in and say its great. But Mario in a Rpg to me does not equal an RpG in the traditional sense of the word. I like my wizards, warriors, dwarfs and elfs etc...
BTW Wizardry 8 on PC ROCKS. That is the apex of traditional RPG's. I only wish Nintendo would buy the rights and continue the Wizardry series on the rev. If you havent heard of it you should check it out. Its less than 20 bucks by now.
peace nosferatu
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2005, 03:33:16 PM
Media-Create - April 04, 2005 - April 10, 2005
Software Sales
1. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: 1 Year War - Bandai - 159,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 Saint Seiya - Bandai - 89,000 (NEW)
3. PS2 Pro Baseball Spirits - Konami - 55,000 (NEW)
4. PS2 Tekken 5 - Namco - 44,000 (218,000)
5. PS2 Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - Konami - 24,000 (330,000)
6. NDS Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 20,000 (128,000)
7. PS2 Baldrforce Exe - Alchemist - 12,000 (NEW)
8. PS2 Wild Arms 4th Detonator - SCEI - 10,000 (169,000)
9. PS2 Yamato - Bandai - 9,000 (NEW)
10. PS2 WRC4 - Spike - 9,000 (NEW)
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Hardware Sales
PS2 - 37,870
DS - 30,028
PSP - 28,848
GBASP - 13,693
GC - 3,406
GBA - 347
Xbox - 315
Once again the DS holds it lead(barely), but it is definately not running at the same pace as last week(or the week bofore that).
PS2 dominates the software charts(as usual), as DS manages to wiggle in the middle to make an appearance.
Post by: Mario on April 15, 2005, 06:56:12 PM
Anyway, surprised nobody's posted the March NPD info, I can't post it right away anymore for... reasons.
Top 5 games per platform:
PS2 Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony $ 26,165,740 532,219
2 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 2 Electronic Arts $ 12,891,970 261,974
3 DEVIL MAY CRY 3 Capcom $ 12,467,640 252,006
4 GOD OF WAR Sony $ 10,612,730 214,028
5 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts $ 9,917,162 337,736
Xbox Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 SW: REPUBLIC COMMANDO LucasArts $ 10,644,190 214,923
2 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 2 Electronic Arts $ 9,902,274 201,638
3 BROTHERS ARMS:HILL 30 Ubi Soft $ 8,670,007 186,542
4 T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft $ 8,157,217 163,766
5 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts $ 5,456,600 185,589
GC Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo $ 3,899,296 80,389
2 RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom $ 2,617,991 52,717
3 DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS Nintendo $ 2,125,341 39,242
4 MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC Nintendo $ 2,025,914 40,850
5 NBA STREET V3 Electronic Arts $ 1,996,246 41,134
Handhelds Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
PSP NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS Electronic Arts $ 5,973,790 121,293
PSP TWISTED METAL:HEAD ON Sony $ 5,034,513 127,403
PSP UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD Sony $ 4,078,071 103,010
NDS WARIOWARE: TOUCHED! Nintendo $ 3,909,432 113,380
PSP METAL GEAR ACID Konami $ 3,483,612 88,362
Hardware:
PS2: 495,000
Xbox: 227,000
GCN: 94,000
Another month, another GameCube slaughtering. Those Jungle Beat sales are a crime...
Post by: Mario on April 16, 2005, 10:12:38 PM
Super Smash Bros: Melee = 2,770,885
Super Mario Sunshine = 1,942,646
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! = 1,856,973
Zelda: The Wind Waker = 1,851,599
Luigi's Mansion = 1,652,768
Metroid Prime = 1,287,446
Mario Party 4 = 972,844
Animal Crossing = 969,593
Mario Party 5 = 822,759
Star Fox Adventures = 813,088
Pokemon Colosseum = 788,720
Pikmin = 675,409
Mario Party 6 = 614,863
Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door = 608,047
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour = 601,519
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes = 507,805
Kirby Air Ride = 455,041
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles = 429,626
Mario Power Tennis = 369,599
Donkey Konga = 336,244
Zelda: Four Swords Adventures = 333,557
Wave Race: Blue Storm = 331,896
F Zero GX = 294,304
Wario World = 288,842
Eternal Darkness = 286,854
Pikmin 2 = 265,097
Pokemon Channel = 174,043
Preview Disk = 172,296
Star Fox Assault = 169,635
Custom Robo = 166,498
NBA Courtside = 162,015
1080 Avalanche = 137,654
Wario Ware Inc = 124,148
Magical Mirror = 122,975
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat 62,873
Sonic Adventure II Battle = 1,122,289
Sonic Mega Collection = 899,814 (PS2 version = 353,659 XBOX version = 207,294)
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader = 880,452
Soul Calibur II = 799,980 (PS2 version = 748,268 XBOX version = 538,929)
Super Monkey Ball = 634,474
Super Monkey Ball 2 = 590,699
Sonic Adventure DX = 539,896
Resident Evil = 501,419
Sonic Heroes = 499,915 (PS2 version = 340,615 XBOX version = 160,909)
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike = 496,647
Resident Evil 4 = 475,369
Resident Evil Zero = 448,219
Viewtiful Joe = 302,077 (PS2 version = 81,341)
Tales of Symphonia = 292,631
Timesplitters 2 = 270,037 (PS2 version = 273,865 XBOX version = 223,174)
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes = 232,202
MegaMan Anniversary Collection= 209,598 (PS2 version = 202,446 XBOX version = 16,790)
Phantasy Star Online I & II = 189,082
Viewtiful Joe 2 = 84,903 (PS2 version = 31,100)
Baten Kaitos = 79,070
Megaman X Command Mission = 53,326 (PS2 version = 39,419)
TimeSplitters 3:
XBox - 34,299
PS2 - 19,957
GCN - 10,925
Super Monkey Ball DX
PS2 = 11,284
Xbox = 11,710
LOL Super Monkey Ball 2 for GameCube sold more than Super Monkey Ball DX for both PS2 and Xbox COMBINED for the MONTH (24,702). Another very smart move by Sega!
(Thanks to Berto2k for providing me this information.)
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 17, 2005, 04:52:00 AM
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Preview Disk = 172,296
Hahaha, that's my favortie game.
Post by: mjbd on April 17, 2005, 05:56:29 AM
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 17, 2005, 08:46:11 AM
You guys are crying about jungle beat when the outrage is RE4!
I think, as most others do, that RE4 is better than all other offerings on all platforms. Even me, a Metroid diehard, thinks RE4 outdid Echoes. BTW Echoes only selling 500k is criminal.
At least RE4 almost sold as many as Echoes in half the time.
Re4 i thinkis better than Halo2, so expected the game to eventually do half what Halo 2 did, somewhere around 1.5 mil. Wishful thinking i guess.
Post by: CHEN on April 17, 2005, 10:21:08 AM
Post by: razr on April 17, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
As for ToS its got a brilliant battle system for a rpg but the story didnt do the game justice or maybe i didnt play it enough to see its true colours, thats what i thought anyway.
i was really dissapointed with the new starfox game, it seems once again namco not putting enough effort to make a classic. The space parts look awesome but there are land levels which ruin it.
Im hoping the new zelda will be another classic up there with ocarina of time. It looks the part cant wait.
Post by: Rancid Planet on April 17, 2005, 02:33:23 PM
Post by: odifiend on April 17, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 17, 2005, 03:51:25 PM
Gonna have to get myself a DS to tide things over methinks..
Post by: mjbd on April 17, 2005, 07:11:15 PM
Post by: Mario on April 17, 2005, 08:26:44 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 17, 2005, 08:34:25 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on April 21, 2005, 09:21:36 AM
Having played RE4 though, I consider it the third best GCN title overall (Wind waker, Eternal Darkness) so I DO see what the fuss is all about. RE0 seemed like a great game too though. But as I said, I must not understand what RE fans want.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2005, 10:54:53 AM
1. Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song - 216,904 (PS2)(NEW)
2. Fire Emblem - 102,073 (GC)(NEW)
3. Naruto 3 - 84,195 (DS)(NEW)
4. Nintendogs: Siba & Friends - 82,585 (DS)(NEW)
5. Nintendogs: Dachs & Friends - 52,563 (DS)(NEW)
6. Nintendogs: Chihuahua & Friends - 45,826(DS)(NEW)
7. Baseball Live 2005 - 43,852 (PS2)(NEW)
8. Mega Man Zero 4 - 37,973 (GBA)(NEW)
9. Mobile Suit Gundam: One Year War - 29,592 (PS2)
10. Tokyo Xtreme Racer: Zone of Control - 29,473(PS2)(NEW)
system sales for the week:
Nintendo DS - (96,191)
PlayStation 2 - (33,080)
PSP - (33,004)
Game Boy Advance SP - (10,820)
GameCube - (8,329)
Game Boy Advance - (422)
Xbox - (112)
Xbox drops about a 1/3, GC more than doubles and DS outsells them all combined (taking about 53% of system sales)
Its good to see another GC game back at the top of the charts and its pushing systems out the door, hopefully it keeps up and pushes the GC closer & closer to regaining it 2nd place status .
Post by: trip1eX on April 29, 2005, 07:30:20 AM
Post by: mjbd on April 29, 2005, 01:32:41 PM
Post by: caimdark on May 05, 2005, 08:14:35 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on May 05, 2005, 08:56:08 PM
US = about 500,000
Europe = 200,000
Japan = about 180,000
So definately nearing up on one million worldwide.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2005, 07:55:04 PM
No. / Title / this week (total) / publisher
1 KIDOU SENSHI GUNDAM: Ichinen Sensou PS2 - 33,906 (268,238 ) Bandai
2 Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3 for DS DS - 32,958 (117,153) Tomy
3 Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song PS2 - 31,037 (247,941) Square Enix
4 Nintendogs: Shiba and friends DS - 30,463 (113,048 ) Nintendo
5 Baseball Live 2005 PS2 - 24,154 (68,006) Namco
6 Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki GameCube - 22,221 (124,294) Nintendo
7 Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends DS - 19,971 (72,334) Nintendo
8 Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS - 18,483 (64,309) Nintendo
9 Rave Buster Darkness Century PS2 - 16,581 Bandai NEW
10 Spectral Force Chronicles PS2 - 12,285 Idea Factory NEW
System Sales --------------------------------
DS, 64,247 Sales
PS2, 40,471 Sales
PSP, 38,778 Sales
GBASP, 14,616 Sales
GC, 6,125 Sales
GBA, 448 Sales
Xbox, 271 Sales
There was only one other GC game in the Top 50 and it was @ the #42 spot
Fire Emblem is still selling good, but GC sales have actually slowed up.
But we still don't have last weeks #'s & Fire Emblem should still be on the charts for last week too.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 12, 2005, 08:02:05 AM
Post by: Mario on May 12, 2005, 08:08:15 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2005, 10:44:21 AM
Software:
1. PS2 Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song - Square Enix - 66,840
2. DS Naruto Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3 for DS - Tomy - 29,534
3. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam One Year War - Bandai - 27,552
4. DS nintendogs Shiba & friends - Nintendo - 27,481
5. DS nintendogs Dachs & friends - Nintendo - 19,183
6. DS nintendogs Chihuahua & friends - Nintendo - 17,949
7. PS2 Baseball Live 2005 - Namco - 17,889
8. DS Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 15,578
9. GC Fire Emblem Souen no Kiseki - Nintendo - 13,471
10. GBA Rockman Zero 4 - Capcom - 11,344
Hardware:
DS 67,863
PS2 38,629
PSP 33,981
GBASP 22,633
GC 5,655
GBA 431
Xbox 169
I'm not so sure if FE is gonna break the 200,000 mark in japan if the sales keep declining, hope it does better here in the states
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 11:03:52 AM
Post by: nolimit19 on May 12, 2005, 11:32:27 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2005, 08:27:37 PM
Post by: Mario on May 13, 2005, 03:19:56 AM
April Hardware Sales
PSP = 351,000
PS2 = 332,000
Xbox = 153,000
GCN = 63,000
GBA+DS = 250,000 (approx)
April Top 25 Software Sales
US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher
1 XBX DOOM 3 COLLECTORS ED Activision
2 PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two Interactive
3 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
4 XBX DOOM 3 Activision
5 XBX T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft
6 XBX MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two Interactive
7 XBX WWE WRESTLEMANIA 21 THQ
8 XBX JADE EMPIRE LIMTED ED LucasArts
9 XBX JADE EMPIRE LucasArts
10 PS2 LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
11 PS2 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony
12 PSP NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS Electronic Arts
13 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts
14 XBX LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
15 PS2 T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft
16 PSP TWISTED METAL:HEAD ON Sony
17 PS2 DYNASTY WARRIORS 5 Koei
18 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z: SAGAS Atari
19 XBX UNREAL CHAMPIONSHIP 2 Midway
20 PS2 MX VS ATV UNLEASHED THQ
21 PSP UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD Sony
22 PS2 TEKKEN 5 Namco
23 PS2 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 2 Electronic Arts
24 PSP RIDGE RACER Namco
25 GBA LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
PSP is still riding it's launch hype, so that's to be expected, I expect DS to rise above it again in May, if not May, then June.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2005, 09:31:05 AM
ranked by $$$ made
PS2
1 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take-Two Interactive 11,823,380 $ 238,443
2 GOD OF WAR Sony 9,073,448 $ 182,571
3 LEGO STAR WARS Eidos 4,787,039 $ 120,296
4 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony 4,111,851 $ 82,796
5 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts 3,591,877 $ 120,319
XBOX
1 DOOM 3 COLLECTORS ED Activision 13,079,850 $ 220,454
2 DOOM 3 Activision 8,081,774 $ 164,258
3 T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft 8,071,464 $ 164,022
4 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take-Two Interactive 7,892,765 $ 159,325
5 WWE WRESTLEMANIA 21 THQ 5,423,751 $ 108,712
GCN
1 DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS Nintendo 2,086,199 $ 38,379
2 DRAGONBALL Z: SAGAS Atari 1,248,139 $ 31,745
3 STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo 1,139,895 $ 23,014
4 MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC Nintendo 1,029,009 $ 20,668
5 RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 826,130 $ 16,445 <----
Handhelds
PSP NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS Electronic Arts 3,933,665 $ 79,010
PSP TWISTED METAL:HEAD ON Sony 2,808,298 $ 70,544
PSP UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD Sony 2,551,429 $ 64,144
PSP RIDGE RACER Namco 2,195,410 $ 55,082
GBA LEGO STAR WARS Eidos 2,184,754 $ 74,831
Mario said:
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I think RE4 will eventually sell over a million in the US alone, on GC.
Resident Evil 4 is nearing a mil in the US !!! thats good news
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2005, 09:43:57 AM
It's been over exactly 5 months, and Resi4 is over 800K on my favorite dead console. Capcom should be pleased!
Post by: joeposh on May 13, 2005, 04:18:52 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
here is the rest of it
GCN
1 DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS Nintendo 2,086,199 $ 38,379
2 DRAGONBALL Z: SAGAS Atari 1,248,139 $ 31,745
3 STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo 1,139,895 $ 23,014
4 MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC Nintendo 1,029,009 $ 20,668
5 RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 826,130 $ 16,445 <----
Mario said:Quote
I think RE4 will eventually sell over a million in the US alone, on GC.
Resident Evil 4 is nearing a mil in the US !!! thats good news
Umm where do you get that nearly a million sold number from? The first number is money made, the second is units sold... RE 4 only sold 16,445 units last month... that brings it's grand total to 491,814 units sold in the US thus far... it may sell a million after it drops to 19.99 somewhere down the road but for now it's NOWHERE near that mark in the US.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2005, 06:51:57 PM
Post by: Savior on May 13, 2005, 08:06:18 PM
the PS2 announcement was Frigging assinine....
watch the mediocre PS2 version outsell it though...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2005, 08:23:36 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on May 15, 2005, 12:20:34 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on June 21, 2005, 03:43:16 PM
Apparently NPD doesn't want people "leaking" American sales figures anymore. So I guess that's the end of that. It was kind of nice being able to see through the hype and get something closer to the truth about some things.
These sales threads are going to have to stick to the various Japanese numbers from now on.
Nintendo and Sony need to start making their "shipped" numbers readily available.
Post by: IceCold on June 21, 2005, 06:51:01 PM
I really wanted to know how the DS would do soon after all the great new games come out. Guess I'll have to wait and see now; we'll eventually get the numbers.
On a related topic, two weeks ago I notices that all the overall sales figures on N-sider.com had vanished, and now it just says "No Sales Data" I could have sworn that they had lifetime nubers for many games, but they're not there now. Anyone know anything about this?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2005, 07:44:27 PM
Post by: Mario on June 21, 2005, 08:17:57 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
With no N.A. #'s to post in here I don't expect to see this thread posted in very often (not that it was)as GC games gon't really sell very well in JPN and the last time I seen one on the charts was several weeks ago when Metroid Prime 2 was released, and few weeks b4 that was Fire Emblem.
Well, Chibi Robo and Kirby GC are out there in a few days, it should be slightly interesting to see how they sell.
Post by: IceCold on June 21, 2005, 08:42:36 PM
And yea, we can always look forward to the next "big releases" i.e Kirby & Chibi as Mario said, then Zelda
Post by: Dasmos on June 21, 2005, 08:49:39 PM
Post by: Mario on June 21, 2005, 08:56:18 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 21, 2005, 09:52:49 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 21, 2005, 11:37:50 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 22, 2005, 01:09:20 AM
Lame.
Post by: Mario on June 23, 2005, 04:57:56 PM
Top 3 publishers
1 Nintendo of America
2 Lucasarts
3 Electronic Arts
GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo $30,236,960 882,579
PS2 SW EPISODE III: SITH $24,187,620 490,670
XBX SW EPISODE III: SITH $18,663,830 378,195
XBX FORZA MOTORSPORT $9,174,106 184,595
PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB $7,345,949 150,470
PS2 LEGO STAR WARS $5,035,527 127,700
GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH $2,523,299 87,363
NDS SW EPISODE III: SITH $1,663,455 43,726
Top selling GC game - GCN DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS $1,261,860 23,093
Pretty bad that the top selling GC game only sold 23,000, but it's good that it's Jungle Beat, that game has been selling pretty consistantly, hopefully word of mouth gets out and it keeps selling.
More numbers, including hardware, coming soon I hope
Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on June 23, 2005, 06:50:58 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on June 23, 2005, 07:41:36 PM
Actually I think Killer 7 is out in Japan now (didn't blow off the charts) and I think it sold 17K on PS2 and 12K on the GC during it's opening week--pretty weak sales on either platform.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 23, 2005, 10:26:51 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on June 24, 2005, 06:43:15 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on June 24, 2005, 07:38:45 AM
Post by: nickmitch on June 24, 2005, 11:06:28 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 05, 2005, 01:06:09 PM
1. Medal Of Honor European Assault (Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube: Electronic Arts)
2. Destroy All Humans (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC: THQ)
3. Juiced (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC: THQ)
4. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC: Take-Two)
5. Cricket 2005 (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC: Electronic Arts)
6. Battlefield 2 (PC: Electronic Arts)
7. Tekken 5 (PlayStation 2: Namco)
8. Lego Star Wars (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC, Game Boy Advance: Eidos)
9. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith (Xbox, PlayStation 2, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS: LucasArts)
10. Batman Begins (Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube, Game Boy Advance: Electronic Arts)
11. Area 51 (Xbox, PlayStation 2: Midway)
12. Madagascar (Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube, Nintendo DS, Game Boy Advance, PC: Activision)
13. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC: Konami)
14. Championship Manager 5 (Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC: Eidos)
15. Conker: Live & Reloaded (Xbox: Microsoft)
16. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube, PC: Ubisoft)
17. Formula 1 05 (PlayStation 2: SCEE)
18. Mortal Kombat: Deception (Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube: Midway)
19. FIFA Street (Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube: Electronic Arts)
20. Dynasty Warriors 5 (PlayStation 2: Koei)
I don't know exactly whats up with the list, but it just appears to list the game that sold well along with all the platforms it was available for, and not exactly what system it sold well on.
So don't get too excited that you see Gamecube on there
Post by: KDR_11k on July 05, 2005, 09:44:51 PM
MoH:EA outsold Battlefield 2. Perhaps those morons who bought MoH should think about the message they're sending!
Post by: xts3 on July 06, 2005, 10:53:18 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
What? Norton System Works dropped off the list?
MoH:EA outsold Battlefield 2. Perhaps those morons who bought MoH should think about the message they're sending!
Americans and the UK are obsessed with first person shooters, I dont understand why either. It's even starting to filter over into the console world in a big way too.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2005, 08:08:24 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2005, 09:10:13 AM
1. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 - Konami
2. NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku - Nintendo
3. PS2 Saru Gecchu 3 (Ape Escape 3) - SCE
4. NDS Brain Training DS - Nintendo
5. GBA Mushi King - SEGA
6. NDS Naruto RPG 2 - Tomy
7. NGC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 - Konami
8. PS2 Gundam True Odyssey - Bandai
9. NGC Dance Dance Revolution with MARIO - Nintendo
10. PS2 Minna Daisuki Katamari - Namco
11. Pachislot Onimusha 3 - SEGA
12. K-1 WORLD MAX 2005 - World to World Champion - D3 Publishing
13. NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends - Nintendo
14. PS2 GENJI - SCE
15. PS2 Mushashiden 2 - Square Enix
16. NDS Nintendogs Dachs & Friends - Nintendo
17. NGC Chibi Robo - Nintendo
18. PS2 Pachislot game - Success
19. GBA Pokemon Emerald - Nintendo
20. NDS Nintendogs Chihuahua & Friends - Nintendo
Dance Dance, Baseball & Chibi Robo, look like th GC is back, even if only for a day
Post by: Mario on July 22, 2005, 09:45:16 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 22, 2005, 11:31:29 PM
1 PS2 The Warring States BASARA ???? ACT 2005/7/21
2 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
3 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
4 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3: Kami wo tsugu Shojo Bandai
5 GBA Bleach Sega
6 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom
7 PS2 ?????????? 11 ??? SLG 2005/7/21
8 PS2 The King of Fighters Neowave SNK
9 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12
10 NDS Full Metal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy Bandai
11 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
12 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
13 PSP Gate SCE
14 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training
15 GBA Beatle Mushi King GBA
16 PS2 School Rumble: Neru Musume wa Sodatsu Marvellous
17 PS2 New heaven demon boundary generation of chaos V Idea factory SLG 2005/7/21
18 PS2 K-1 World Max 2005 D3 Publishing
19 PS2 FIFA Street Electronic Arts
20 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
Mario you can't post the reply about the info before the post of the info
Post by: Ymeegod on July 23, 2005, 09:22:34 PM
Hardware
PS2 = 354,000
XBOX = 170,000
GCN = 70,000
PSP: 294,000
DS: 112,000
GBA: 288,000
Looks like sony's in full control here.
Post by: Ymeegod on July 23, 2005, 11:52:33 PM
1 XBX GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDR Take-Two $19.114.820 385.636
2 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo $ 9.214.216 265.111
3 PS2 SW EPISODE III: SITH Ubisoft $11.440.450 229.696
4 PS2 MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN A EA $ 6.405.767 161.055
5 XBX CONKER: LIVE AND RELOADED Microsoft $ 7.471.994 150.147
6 PS2 LEGO STAR WARS Eidos $ 5.880.704 148.131
7 PS2 MADAGASCAR Activision $ 4.814.561 122.075
8 GBA MADAGASCAR Activision $ 3.461.352 121.977
9 PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take-Two $ 5.360.979 111.777
10 PS2 DESTROY ALL HUMANS! THQ $ 5.552.846 111.586
11 XBX SW EPISODE III: SITH Ubisoft $ 5.274.546 106.013
12 XBX DESTROY ALL HUMANS! THQ $ 5.040.633 101.355
13 XBX MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN A EA $ 3.853.602 97.024
14 GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED ST Nintendo $ 3.007.132 96.954
15 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2005 EA $ 2.814.885 94.724
16 PS2 BATMAN BEGINS EA $ 3.512.912 89.159
17 GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH Ubisoft $ 2.430.176 81.262
18 NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE Nintendo $ 2.742.394 79.396
19 XBX LEGO STAR WARS Eidos $ 3.087.376 77.777
20 XBX FORZA MOTORSPORT Microsoft $ 3.658.061 76.169
Post by: KDR_11k on July 24, 2005, 04:53:00 AM
Post by: Renny on July 24, 2005, 06:10:37 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on July 24, 2005, 08:04:08 AM
Post by: Ymeegod on July 24, 2005, 11:21:14 AM
Post by: Renny on July 24, 2005, 12:57:27 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2005, 01:38:11 PM
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,848,367
Super Mario Sunshine: 2,042,046
The Wind Waker: 1,919,494
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,885,124
Luigi's Mansion: 1,695,314
Metroid Prime: 1,301,316
Animal Crossing: 1,017,881
Mario Party 4: 975,138
Pokemon Colosseum: 877,205
Mario Party 5: 829,183
Star Fox Adventures: 818,674
Pikmin: 677,570
Mario Party 6: 672,813
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 646,023
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 638,451
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 527,258
Kirby Air Ride: 511,321
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 455,127
Mario Power Tennis: 401,860
Donkey Konga: 352,025
Four Swords Adventures: 344,821
Wave Race: 332,465
F-Zero GX: 301,254
Eternal Darkness: 288,097
Pikmin 2: 275,124
Wario World: 262,006
Star Fox Assault: 226,256
Pokemon Channel: 178,472
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: 177,201
Preview Disk: 172,554
Custom Robo: 171,717
NBA Courtside 2002: 160,557
1080 Avalanche: 148,065
Wario Ware Inc: 131,787
Magical Mirror: 124,811
Donkey Konga 2: 47,835
Viewtiful Joe (GC): 304,940
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 88,299
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 100,881
Viewtiful Joe 2 (PS2): 43,132
Resident Evil Zero: 456,708
Resident Evil: 522,971
Resident Evil 2: 35,966
Resident Evil 3: 49,024
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 36,691
Resident Evil 4: 525,271
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader: 885,064
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike: 516,499
Soul Calibur (GC): 816,811
Soul Calibur (PS2): 767,582
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 553,688
Tales of Symphonia: 326,977
Baten Kaitos: 96,695
TimeSplitters 2:
GCN 278,852
PS2 275,738
XBX 224,551
Post by: Nosferat2 on July 24, 2005, 01:47:26 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2005, 01:48:27 PM
Nintendo Gamecube Games YTD
Avalanche 1080 = 33,334
Animal Crossing = 143,663
Custom Robo = 13,140
Disney Magical Mirror = 3,692
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat = 173,201
Donkey Konga 2 = 48,015
Donkey Konga = 56,646
Eternal Darkness = 7,170
F Zero GX = 19,316
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles = 53,640
Kirby Air Ride = 117,638
Luigi’s Mansion = 103,855
Mario Golf Toadstool Tour = 116,368
Mario Kart Double Dash = 67,644
Mario Party 4 = 12,874
Mario Party 5 = 21,852
Mario Party 6 = 203,799
Mario Power Tennis = 104,922
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes = 64,834
Metroid Prime = 32,298
NBA Courtside 2002 = 1,155
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door = 90,428
Pikmin = 8,270
Pikmin 2 = 27,866
Pokemon Channel= 11,506
Pokemon Coliseum = 139,088
Preview Disk = 758
Star Fox Assault = 226,266
Star Fox Adventure = 20,856
Super Smash Bros. Melee = 186,127
Super Mario Sunshine = 237,839
Wario World = 22,995
Wario Ware Inc. Party = 22,458
Wave Race Blue Storm = 2,516
Zelda Four Swords = 30,998
Zelda Wind Waker = 170,340
Top 5 Games
Super Mario Sunshine = 237,839 - 2002
Star Fox Assault = 226,266 - 2005
Mario Party 6 = 203,799 - 2004
Super Smash Bros. Melee = 186,127 - 2001
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat = 173,201 - 2005
Other GCN YTD's
Viewtiful Joe – 13,446 - 2003
Viewtiful Joe 2 – 39,076 - 2004
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II – 11,297 - 2001
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III – 43,480 - 2003
Baten Katos – 36,773 - 2004
Tales of Symphonia – 47,280 - 2004
Harvest Moon A Wonderful Life - 82,428 - 2004
Post by: KDR_11k on July 24, 2005, 08:32:50 PM
Post by: Mario on July 25, 2005, 12:55:37 AM
Good to see Jungle Beat's US sales growing steadily, how much did it sell in June?
Also, Mario Baseball has climbed up to number one on the Japanese Daily Chart!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2005, 08:31:43 AM
Japanese Daily Sales Charts
July 23:
1 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
2 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
3 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
4 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12
5 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training For Adults Nintendo
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
8 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega
9 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
10 GBA Bleach Sega
11 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom
12 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
13 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
14 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
15 PS2 The King of Fighters Neowave SNK
16 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends Nintendo
17 PS2 pop n' music 11 Konami
18 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
19 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12
20 NDS Full Metal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy Bandai
July 24:
1 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
2 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
3 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
4 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training For Adults Nintendo
5 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega
8 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
9 GBA Bleach Sega
10 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
11 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE
12 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
13 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
14 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends Nintendo
15 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
16 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
17 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
18 PS2 Minna Daisukai Katamari! Namco
19 NDS Full Metal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy Bandai
20 NDS Nintendogs Chihuahua and Friends Nintendo
July 25th
1 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
2 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
3 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
4 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training For Adults Nintendo
5 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega
8 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
9 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
10 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
11 GBA Bleach Sega
12 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom
13 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
14 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
15 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
16 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
17 PS2 Minna Daisukai Katamari! Namco
18 PS2 The King of Fighters Neowave SNK
19 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends
20 PS2 pop n' music 11 Konami
Post by: Mario on August 15, 2005, 08:51:03 PM
GCN KILLER 7 $811,958 16,350
Another brilliant decision by Capcom! I bet it cost more than $311,395 to develop and print the PS2 version, and the GC version would have sold much more if it was an exclusive. F*cking clueless morons.
EDIT: More sales, from July.
Top 20 GC games ordered by money made
1 GCN FANTASTIC 4 $1,877,686.00 37,741
2 GCN MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC $872,247.00 17,507
3 GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $864,968.00 28,967
4 GCN MADAGASCAR $858,302.00 21,937
5 GCN KILLER 7 $811,958.00 16,350
6 GCN DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS $738,996.00 13,523
7 GCN STAR FOX: ASSAULT $606,473.00 12,224
8 GCN RESIDENT EVIL 4 $597,604.00 14,861
9 GCN MVP BASEBALL 2005 $580,861.00 19,573
10 GCN HARVEST MOON: ANOTHER LIFE $570,287.00 19,074
11 GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM $566,971.00 28,719
12 GCN CHARLIE CHOCOLATE FACTORY $558,212.00 18,650
13 GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $551,789.00 28,352
14 GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS $502,172.00 10,095
15 GCN MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN ASSAULT $480,537.00 12,088
16 GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE $468,839.00 9,432
17 GCN ANIMAL CROSSING $443,666.00 22,277
18 GCN BATMAN BEGINS $439,658.00 11,013
19 GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE $397,728.00 19,934
20 GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER $368,503.00 18,579
Only 1 GC game in the overall top 50. 20 PS2, 14 Xbox, 8 GBA, 5 PSP, and 2 DS games.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 15, 2005, 10:05:48 PM
Post by: vudu on August 18, 2005, 03:45:28 AM
QuoteYou're looking at this all wrong ... you have to look at it from Capcom's point of view.
Originally posted by: Mario
PS2 KILLER 7 $311,395 6,247
GCN KILLER 7 $811,958 16,350
Another brilliant decision by Capcom! I bet it cost more than $311,395 to develop and print the PS2 version, and the GC version would have sold much more if it was an exclusive. F*cking clueless morons.
Killer 7 sold poorly on PS2 because it was also available on GCN. People looked at it and said, "OMFG! It's cel-shaded and on Nintendo ... it's TH3 K1DD13!!1" If it had been a PS2 exclusive it would have sold 1 million copies in a day. In Japan. More, in America.
Moral of the story: never release a Mature game on a Nintendo console.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 18, 2005, 06:07:30 AM
Capcom did a horrible job marketing and sharing info on killer7 in the first place.
Post by: couchmonkey on August 18, 2005, 07:21:34 AM
Post by: jasonditz on August 18, 2005, 01:34:47 PM
a) Make Killer 7 multiplatform, thereby spending needless money on a port and losing some of the free marketing they'd likely have gotten from Nintendo for an exclusive title:
b) Make a big budget weird game with no name recognition and not market it in any real way
c) Needlessly delay a completed title with 7 in the name just so they could say it comes out on 7/7
Post by: mantidor on August 18, 2005, 05:23:21 PM
Post by: jasonditz on August 18, 2005, 09:00:57 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 19, 2005, 07:36:28 AM
Post by: jasonditz on August 19, 2005, 02:20:51 PM
Post by: The Omen on August 19, 2005, 09:12:59 PM
RE4 and MP:E sold like sh!t. What a shame. 2 of the best games out there. I like Killer 7, but kind of expected mediocre numbers, given it's weirdness. The funny thing is, if it were named GTA:Killer 7, it sells a million copies without changing the game play whatsoever. How sad the current state of gaming has become...
Post by: KDR_11k on August 19, 2005, 10:50:20 PM
Post by: The Omen on August 19, 2005, 11:13:56 PM
Quote
I think the low Echos sales are deserved, should teach them not to make half-assed sequels like that. RE4, yes, a damn shame but Capcom was asking for it with their announcement that there'll be a PS2 version half a year later.
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I don't think Echoes was half assed at all. It just had a lot to live up to. I enjoy it more in spots than MP. Yeah, that RE4 announcement..damn that was stupid. And what timing...
Post by: Rancid Planet on August 20, 2005, 01:31:20 AM
And they won't be getting RE4 for the PS2 even though they've been saying "When RE4 comes out for the PS2 I'll get it, I heard Capcom are gonna de-cel shade it and take out the Happy Flower Gun JUST for Sony fans. Plus they're gonna take out the Puppy Dog you had to save and replace her with this hawt Ashley girl I heard."
Post by: KDR_11k on August 20, 2005, 07:52:27 AM
Post by: mantidor on August 21, 2005, 08:35:35 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 21, 2005, 08:38:45 AM
Post by: odifiend on August 21, 2005, 09:42:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Omen: I used half-assed to describe the fact that it's only half a new game, just MP with new maps and slightly changed weapons (the new weapons are still too close to the old ones).
YEAH EXACTLY!!! Only that it has things like new mechanics, a new story, increased difficulty. KDR, I'd be interested to know what norm you are using to make this claim. How many sequels really do stray from their predecessors? And for a metroid game where fans are looking for the exact same weapons (see outcry when space jump wasn't in Prime 1), I thought Retro did a great job breathing freshness into the same formula.
Post by: mantidor on August 21, 2005, 03:49:54 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 21, 2005, 10:16:13 PM
Post by: mjbd on September 10, 2005, 07:09:25 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 10, 2005, 07:28:16 AM
Here's hoping MP3 is the third third.
Post by: Nosferat2 on September 10, 2005, 08:58:37 AM
Post by: trip1eX on September 10, 2005, 01:42:19 PM
Post by: vudu on September 11, 2005, 05:43:13 AM
PS2 = 253,000
XBX = 134,000
GCN = 53,000
The only GCN game to make the top 25 was Madden NFL 06. And just so you can compare its sales to those of the PS2 and Xbox version:
PS2 Madden NFL 06 $71,814,740 - 1,461,380
XBX Madden NFL 06 $33,648,820 - 682,665
GCN Madden NFL 06 $3,979,524 - 80,939
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 17, 2005, 08:09:33 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 17, 2005, 01:00:41 PM
Nintendo GameCube
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,909,585
Super Mario Sunshine: 2,100,334
The Wind Waker: 1,956,861
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,903,955
Luigi's Mansion: 1,718,470
Metroid Prime: 1,308,052
Animal Crossing: 1,062,012
Mario Party 4: 977,513
Pokemon Colosseum: 934,985
Mario Party 5: 831,269
Star Fox Adventures: 821,771
Mario Party 6: 706,708
Pikmin: 678,379
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 671,415
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 649,086
Kirby Air Ride: 550,968
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 535,784
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 463,586
Mario Power Tennis: 420,228
Donkey Konga: 357,280
Four Swords Adventures: 352,534
Wave Race: 336,172
F-Zero GX: 307,308
Eternal Darkness: 288,654
Pikmin 2: 281,055
Wario World: 263,264
Star Fox Assault: 247,808
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: 207,615
Pokemon Channel: 182,246
Custom Robo: 175,304
Preview Disk: 172,709
NBA Courtside 2002: 160,796
1080 Avalanche: 154,489
Wario Ware Inc: 136,825
Magical Mirror: 125,302
Donkey Konga 2: 69,356
Geist: 10,393
Nintendo DS
SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 1,120,130
WARIO WARE TOUCHED! - 320,850
YOSHI TOUCH AND GO - 180,998
KIRBY CANVAS CURSE - 155,335
POKEMON DASH - 118,651
NINTENDOGS: MINIATURE DACHSHUND & FRIENDS - 81,979
NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR RETRIEVER & FRIENDS - 67,285
NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS - 60,463
METEOS - 52,366
ADVANCE WARS: DUAL STRIKE - 44,293
POLARIUM - 23,779
*Super Mario 64DS breaks 1.1M.
*Wario Ware Touched breaks 320K
*Yoshi Touch and Go breaks 180K.
*Kirby Canvas Curse breaks 150K.
*Meteos surpasses 50K.
*Nintendogs enters at 209K.
GameBoy Advance
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 - 2,459,023
POKEMON RUBY VERSION - 2,393,940
POKEMON SAPPHIRE VERSION - 2,151,319
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE - 2,076,482
MARIO KART: SUPER CIRCUIT - 2,080,106
SUPER MARIO BROS 3: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 4 - 1,860,306
POKEMON FIRERED VERSION - 1,547,803
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK TO PAST - 1,382,067
POKEMON EMERALD VERSION - 1,369,380
POKEMON LEAFGREEN VERSION - 1,348,600
YOSHI'S ISLAND: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 3 - 1,151,232
MARIO & LUIGI: SUPERSTAR SAGA - 987,871
KIRBY: NIGHTMARE IN DREAMLAND - 970,388
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY - 961,993
METROID FUSION - 936,525
GOLDEN SUN - 743,327
WARIO LAND 4 - 719,055
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS ADVANCE - 645,195
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 - 587,349
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP - 578,517
KIRBY AND THE AMAZING MIRROR - 557,927
CLASSIC NES SERIES: SUPER MARIO BROS. - 546,167
MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG - 529,983
POKEMON PINBALL: RUBY & SAPPHIRE - 526,172
GOLDEN SUN 2: THE LOST AGE - 471,300
METROID ZERO MISSION - 464,099
FINAL FANTASY I & II: DAWN OF SOULS - 424,781
ADVANCE WARS - 401,147 (Still missing Apr 2005)
FIRE EMBLEM - 389,974
ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK HOLE RISING - 365,533
MARIO PINBALL LAND - 364,896
CLASSIC NES SERIES: THE LEGEND OF ZELDA - 357,761
GAME & WATCH GALLERY 4 - 347,448
CLASSIC NES SERIES: DONKEY KONG - 311,670
F-ZERO MAXIMUM VELOCITY - 274,479
WARIOWARE INC MEGA MICRO GAME$ - 245,572
SWORD OF MANA - 241,560
CLASSIC NES SERIES: ZELDA II: ADVENTURE OF LINK - 237,868
CLASSIC NES SERIES: DR. MARIO - 233,244
MARIO GOLF ADVANCE TOUR - 225,485
FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES - 218,574
MARIO PARTY ADVANCE - 213,516
HAMTARO: HAM HAM HEARTBREAK - 204,400
CLASSIC NES SERIES: PAC-MAN - 196,820
POKEMON: JOHTO PHOTO FINISH (VOL. 1) - 173,069
CLASSIC NES SERIES: METROID - 135,992
POKEMON: FOR HO-OH THE BELLS TOLL (VOL 2) - 135,201
DISNEY'S MAGICAL QUEST - 124,833
CLASSIC NES SERIES: CASTLEVANIA - 114,347
WARIO WARE TWISTED! - 114,195
HAMTARO: HAM-HAM GAMES - 94,292
CLASSIC NES SERIES: EXCITEBIKE - 72,418
CLASSIC NES SERIES: ICE CLIMBER - 65,214
POKEMON: I CHOOSE YOU! - 64,083
CLASSIC NES SERIES: BOMBERMAN - 60,638
CLASSIC NES SERIES: XEVIOUS - 47,580
POKEMON: BEACH BLANK-OUT BLASTOISE - 51,492
YOSHI TOPSY-TURVY - 43,820
F-ZERO: GP LEGEND - 34,382
*Pokemon Emerald breaks 1.3M.
*Pokemon Emerald surpassed Pokemon Leaf Green.
*Donkey Kong Classic breaks 310K.
*Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland breaks 970K.
*Dr. Mario Classic breaks 230K.
*Zelda II Classic breaks 230K and surpassed Dr. Mario Classic.
*Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones breaks 210K.
*Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones surpassed Pac Man Classic and Hamtaro Heartbreak.
*Mario Party Advance breaks 210K.
*Mario Party Advance surpassed Pac Man Classic and Hamtaro Heartbreak.
*Pokemon Video 1 broke 170K.
*Metroid Classic breaks 130K.
*Metroid Classic surpassed Pokemon Video 2.
*Wario Ware Twisted breaks 110K.
*Bomberman Classic breaks 60K.
*Pokemon: Beach Blankout Blastoise breaks 50K.
*Yoshi Topsy Turvy breaks 40K.
*Yoshi Topsy Turvy surpassed F-Zero GP Legend.
was in this thread
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 17, 2005, 01:12:32 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on September 17, 2005, 10:24:27 PM
Geist = very poor sales = not really a big shocker.
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 18, 2005, 09:30:12 AM
Could somebody post the NPD data for JUST August?
Post by: Nosferat2 on September 18, 2005, 10:26:52 AM
Nosferatu
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 18, 2005, 12:20:34 PM
QuoteI gave you the link to the thread that the info you were looking for can be found, but since I already went a dug it up... I'll post it any way
Originally posted by: nintendogamecube86
Could somebody post the NPD data for JUST August?
most sales data is found in the link above, because DS & GBA games are the only Nintendo related games that make the charts 90% of the time
NPD for August 2005
August Hardware Sales
PSP = 167,000
PS2 = 253,000
Xbox = 134,000
GCN = 53,000
GBA = 180,000 (approx)
DS = up 26% over July
August Top 25 Software Sales
US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
2 XBX MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
3 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 06 Electronic Arts
4 GCN MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
5 XBX DELTA FORCE: BLACK HAWK DOW Ubi Soft
6 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo
7 XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 06 Electronic Arts
8 XBX T. CLANCYS RECON 2: STRIK E Ubi Soft
9 XBX DARKW ATCH Capcom
10 NDS N INTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRI Nintendo
11 PS2 DELTA FORCE: BLACK HAWK DOW Ubi Soft
12 NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIE Nintendo
13 PSP MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB EDITIO Take Two Interactive
14 PS2 LEGO STAR W ARS LucasArts
15 PS2 DESTROY ALL HUMANS! THQ
16 NDS N INTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRI Nintendo
17 GBA DRAGONBALL GT: TRANSFORM Atari
18 PS2 DARKW ATCH Capcom
19 PS2 M IDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two Interactive
20 PS2 FLATOUT Vivendi
21 PS2 FANTASTIC 4 Activision
22 NDS ADVANCE W ARS : DUAL STRIKE Nintendo
23 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
24 PS2 CHARLIE CHOCOLATE FACTORY Take Two Interactive
25 PS2 MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN AS Electronic Arts
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.
Madden (All consoles): 2.2 Million
Nintendogs (all): 209,727
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 04, 2005, 06:12:23 PM
Post by: Mario on October 14, 2005, 12:23:07 AM
PS2 = 268,000
Xbox = 124,000
GCN = 108,000
GBA = 185,000
DS = 164,000
No PSP data
Very interesting that GC is so close to Xbox now.
1. PS2 MADDEN NFL 06
2. PS2 NBA LIVE 06
3. GCN MARIO SUPERSTAR BASEBALL
4. XBX MADDEN NFL 06
5. XBX T.CLANCYS RAINBOW SIX:LCKDWN
6. PS2 NASCAR 06:TOTAL TEAM CONTROL
7. PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 06
8. GCN WWE DAY OF RECKONING 2
9. NDS NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS
10. XBX BURNOUT REVENGE
Top 5 GC games,
1 MARIO BASEBALL Nintendo 164,170
2 WWE RECKONING 2 THQ 86,708
3 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts 32,486
4 POKEMON XD: GoD Nintendo 26,229
5 INCREDIBLE HULK VU Games 26,449
Very good performance by Mario Baseball. Pokemon XD flopped, thank god. When was that released though?
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August
Xbox = 134,000
GCN = 53,000
September
Xbox = 124,000
GCN = 108,000
Hmmm...
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 14, 2005, 12:32:17 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on October 14, 2005, 06:17:53 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 14, 2005, 07:18:46 AM
It's interesting to see Cube sales double like that. Though the Cube actually had some games released for a change so that makes sense.
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 14, 2005, 07:51:16 AM
And GC games can actually still get halfway decent sales.
Post by: Artimus on October 14, 2005, 08:08:29 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2005, 09:15:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Uhhhh...guys...Pokemon XD came out on October 3...
Then why is it part of the september NPD?
Post by: Nosferat2 on October 14, 2005, 09:17:44 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2005, 09:34:44 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1Quote
Originally posted by: Artimus
Uhhhh...guys...Pokemon XD came out on October 3...
Then why is it part of the september NPD?
I found the answer to my question, I think...
A retail calendar is used to calculate NPD sales numbers
So for September's NPD, the month was defined as: Sunday, August 28th -> Saturday, October 1st.
does that mean that the ony Pokemon games sales listed are just presales? Cause if the game didn't come out till the 3rd then it still shouldn't have been counted in september's NPD?
edit: apparently EBgames & Gamestop released the game during the last two days of September, which means it sold for 3 days of the september NPD and before its actual release date. So don't think Pokemon was a Pokebomb just yet...
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 14, 2005, 12:25:36 PM
A thought just struck me...maybe Nintendo's using all these stupid games (Channel, Colloseum, XD) to stall Poke-fans for a super-fantastic MMORPG Pokemon at launch? Just blindly hoping...
EDIT: Rev launch, I mean.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 14, 2005, 12:28:29 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2005, 12:36:42 PM
first the combine GBA & DS for many months
then they count GBA seperately but only give a +% for DS
now they count GBA & DS seperately, but have no #'s for PSP
Is it "either or" with these people or what?
Next month will we have +/-% for PSP, different types of GBAs counted seperately and N-gage being tallied in roman numerals?
Post by: IceCold on October 14, 2005, 08:19:49 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 15, 2005, 01:10:05 PM
GameCube
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,940,741
Super Mario Sunshine: 2,132,399
The Wind Waker: 1,986,410
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,914,527
Luigi's Mansion: 1,734,426
Metroid Prime: 1,312,147
Animal Crossing: 1,082,619
Mario Party 4: 978,258
Pokemon Colosseum: 966,777
Mario Party 5: 832,040
Star Fox Adventures: 822,727
Mario Party 6: 720,908
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 686,862
Pikmin: 678,790
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 653,842
Kirby Air Ride: 571,477
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 538,869
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 467,963
Mario Power Tennis: 427,892
Donkey Konga: 359,468
Four Swords Adventures: 355,355
Wave Race: 336,880
F-Zero GX: 309,599
Eternal Darkness: 288,989
Pikmin 2: 283,441
Wario World: 263,794
Star Fox Assault: 254,162
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: 216,415
Pokemon Channel: 183,463
Custom Robo: 177,714
Preview Disk: 172,795
Mario Superstar Baseball: 164,170
NBA Courtside 2002: 160,893
1080 Avalanche: 158,123
Wario Ware Inc: 139,757
Magical Mirror: 125,455
Donkey Konga 2: 78,252
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness: 26,229
Battalion Wars: 16,404
Geist: 15,883
Viewtiful Joe (GC): 308,131
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 93,701
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 115,847
Viewtiful Joe 2 (PS2): 51,992
Resident Evil Zero: 465,054
Resident Evil: 541,341
Resident Evil 2: 35,978 (not on Sept NPD)
Resident Evil 3: 49,046
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 37,101
Resident Evil 4: 566,728
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader: 886,219
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike: 525,726
Soul Calibur (GC): 832,965
Soul Calibur (PS2): 783,386
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 568,165
Tales of Symphonia: 372,831
Baten Kaitos: 114,206
Post by: Artimus on October 15, 2005, 02:49:11 PM
Post by: Arbok on October 15, 2005, 03:41:18 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 16, 2005, 12:22:23 AM
Post by: Mario on October 16, 2005, 12:37:52 AM
GCN KILLER 7 $109,250 3,668
PS2 KILLER 7 $56,738 1,888
Post by: mantidor on October 16, 2005, 06:22:53 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2005, 04:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
Hey BlackNMild2k1 you wouldn't happen to know the total for Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee, to date, would you?
September #'s
GCN GODZILLA: DESTROY ALL MONSTERS MELEE $6,292 / 606
XBX GODZILLA: DESTROY ALL MONSTERS MELEE $4,512 / 213
sorry no LTD yet
Post by: Nosferat2 on October 16, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 17, 2005, 10:28:34 AM
Japaneez anime kidz for the win
Post by: KDR_11k on October 17, 2005, 10:42:10 PM
Post by: mjbd on October 21, 2005, 06:13:23 PM
Post by: Artimus on October 21, 2005, 07:24:23 PM
Post by: Renny on October 21, 2005, 09:42:05 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2005, 09:34:36 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
September NPD data is here!
PS2 = 268,000
Xbox = 124,000
GCN = 108,000
GBA = 185,000
DS = 168,000
PSP = 146,000
#'s updated
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 22, 2005, 12:58:48 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2005, 01:04:06 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on October 25, 2005, 11:08:56 PM
Post by: Artimus on October 26, 2005, 04:33:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
The GBA numbers should not include the GBM numbers imo. Can Micro play old GB games? Does it have a flip-top screen? They aren't the same system.
My GBA doesn't have a flip-top screen either. Is it a different system too?
They're all variations of the GameBoy Advance.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 02, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
# 1: Shadow of the Colossus - Playstion 2 - Sony - 140,295
# 2: Pokemon Puzzle - Nintendo DS- Nintendo - 30,426
# 3: Battalion Wars - Nintendo GameCube - Nintendo - 25,568
# 4: Ultraman : Fighting Evolution Rebirth - Playstation 2 - Banpresto - 25,502
# 5: Eureka Seven - Playstation 2- Bandai - 24,778
# 6: Tamagotchi DS - Nintendo DS - Bandai - 23,289
# 7: CR Neon Genesis Evangelion - PS2 - D3 Publisher- 23,081
# 8: Brain Training DS- Nintendo DS- Nintendo - 21,730
# 9: Gentle Brain Training - Nintendo DS - Nintendo - 21,046
# 10: Dragon Ball Z : Budokai Tenkaichi - PS2 - Bandai - 20,534
Batallion Wars is doing well on that side of the pond...
Post by: Mario on November 02, 2005, 03:08:12 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 03, 2005, 02:31:38 AM
Post by: joeposh on November 03, 2005, 06:47:48 AM
Post by: odifiend on November 03, 2005, 12:45:14 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
I don't think that's well at all, hopefully it'll have some legs, it is a Nintendo title after all.
Nintendo title with no mario/pokemon = no sales.
Post by: IceCold on November 03, 2005, 01:56:11 PM
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2005, 06:10:54 PM
Software Sales
1)PS2 Daito Giken Official Pachinko Slot Simulator: Osu! Bancho Daito Giken-96,096(96,096)
2)DS Daredemo Asobi Taizen Nintendo-58,376(58,376)
3)PS2 Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance Capcom-38,710(38,710)
4)PS2 Shadow of the Colossus Sony-27,079(167,374)
5)DS DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain Nintendo-19,598(720,222)
6)DS Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop! Bandai-18,959(359,111)
7)DS Gentle Brain Exercises Nintendo-17,147(627,882)
8)PSP Brain Trainer Portable Sega-16,980(79,460)
9)DS Pokemon Torouze Pokemon Company-15,785(46,211)
10)PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Bandai-14,658(483,924)
Hardware Sales
DS-48,520(40.39%)
PSP-29,395(24.47%)
PS2-22,030(18.34%)
GBM-9,349(7.78%)
GBA SP-7,089(5.90%)
GC-3,290(2.74%)
GBA-284(0.24%)
Xbox-167(0.14%)
YTD/LTD
DS-2,032,796/ 3,528,392
PSP-1,513,242/ 1,995,504
DS Lead- 519,554/ 1,532,888
Sales of the top 100 titles totaled 591,538 units, 88.19% of last week's total and 78.94% of the weekly average.
Fifteen new releases took spots in the top 100, accounting for 40.31% of sales. Top-ranked "Daito Giken Official Pachinko Slot Simulator: Osu! Bancho" sold approximately 96,000 units. In terms of pachinko slot machine titles launched in 2005, the game's sales performance followed that of "Pachinko Slot! Fist of the North Star Plus" (approximately 165,000 units) and "Pachinko Slot! Onimusha 3" (approximately 106,000 units). Actual pachinko slot machines at pachinko parlors continue to be popular, and as with the company's previous title "Daito Giken Official Pachinko Slot Simulator Yoshimune," this title will likely see strong sales over a long period.
Third-ranked "Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance (PS2 Edition)" had an absorption rate of above 90% despite being a new title, and was a bigger hit than expected. It appears that the combination of a number of factors including the brand strength of Capcom, which is well-established in ACT, and the world view of the game bearing a close resemblance to that of the "Grand Theft Auto" series led to an unexpected public response.
Post by: Mario on November 10, 2005, 07:42:13 PM
But this does! First October NPD numbers are trickling in...
Top 10 by units
1 PS2 SOCOM 3: US NAVY SEALS
2 PS2 NBA LIVE 06
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06
4 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES
5 PS2 DRAGON BALL Z: BUDOKAI TENK
6 GCN POKEMON XD: GALE OF DARKNESS
7 PS2 FIFA SOCCER 06
8 PS2 SLY 3: HONOR AMONG THIEVES
9 PS2 THE WARRIORS
10 PS2 SHADOW OF COLOSSUS
Number one games on each platform
PS2 SOCOM 3: US NAVY SEALS $18,659,200 381,503
PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES $7,872,589 158,400
GCN POKEMON XD: GALE OF DARKNES $6,388,275 133,010
XBX FAR CRY INSTINCTS $3,846,234 81,225
NDS CASTLEVANIA : DAWN OF SORRO $2,651,889 76,635
GBA POKEMON EMERALD $1,546,350 44,736
PS2 THE WARRIORS $4,751,094 96,877
PS2 SOUL CALIBUR III $4,488,159 92,439
PS2 TONY HAWK AMERICAN WASTELAN $4,431,840 92,456
PS2 ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN $3,183,956 68,178
PS2 MORTAL KOMBAT:SHAOLIN MONKS $3,070,361 63,948
PS2 X-MEN LEGENDS II: ROA $3,013,440 63,494
NDS NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRI $1,899,162 61,945 (combined Nintendogs version sales = 150,000)
GCN BATTALION WARS $618,491 13,142
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL 4: PREMIER EDITION - 25,996
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL 4: REGULAR EDITION - 39,432
Total USA Resident Evil 4 Sales
GCN: 566,728
PS2: 65,428
AHAHAHAAHAUHHUAHA
The Pokemon XD and Nintendogs numbers do NOT include the bundles. Bundles are counted in hardware sales, coming soon. Though the Nintendogs bundle didn't come out til the end of the month so it might not do anything. The Pokemon XD bundle had a whole month so it's possible the GC outsold XBox.
Post by: Mario on November 10, 2005, 08:30:54 PM
PS2 = 252,000
Xbox = 110,000
GCN = 102,000
GBA = 208,000 (approx)
DS = 136,000 (approx)
PSP = not released (assumption = lower than 136,000)
October Top 25 Software Sales
US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher
Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 SOCOM 3: US NAVY SEALS Sony
2 PS2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts
3 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES Take 2 Interactive
4 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
5 PS2 DRAGON BALL Z: BUDOKAI TENK Atari
6 GCN POKEMON XD: GALE OF DARKNESS Nintendo
7 PS2 FIFA SOCCER 06 Electronic Arts
8 PS2 THE WARRIORS Take 2 Interactive
9 PS2 SOUL CALIBUR III Namco
10 PS2 TONY HAWK AMERICAN WASTELAN Activision
11 PS2 SLY 3: HONOR AMONG THIEVES Sony
12 XBX FAR CRY INSTINCTS Ubi Soft
13 XBX NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts
14 PS2 SHADOW OF COLOSSUS Sony
15 PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 06 Electronic Arts
16 PS2 ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN Activision
17 XBX MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
18 PS2 MORTAL KOMBAT:SHAOLIN MONKS Midway
19 PS2 X-MEN LEGENDS II: ROA Activision
20 PS2 BLITZ: THE LEAGUE Midway
21 XBX THE WARRIORS Take 2 Interactive
22 GCN MARIO SUPERSTAR BASEBALL Nintendo
23 XBX BATTLEFIELD 2: MODERN COMBA Electronic Arts
24 PSP MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
25 NDS CASTLEVANIA : DAWN OF SORRO Konami
Post by: IceCold on November 10, 2005, 08:38:45 PM
Pokemon sold 133K without the bundles...that's pretty good all things considered.
Good to see Castlevania up there with solid figures, but Another has dropped out... any chance that it's figures for the month will be released?
GTA PSP with 158k - not bad, but I expect the sales to be quite a bit lower next month, so it really isn't much of a boost.
Battalion Wars dissapointing, but to be expected.
And finally...
QuoteWhy Capcom, why?? Will you ever learn?
Total USA Resident Evil 4 Sales
GCN: 566,728
PS2: 65,428
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2005, 11:42:59 PM
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2005, 12:22:25 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2005, 01:19:20 AM
But I think RE4 for the GC sold quite a bit more the week it was released. 300k within the first month, since it was released on the 11th that was 300k/20d==15k/d. The PS2 version sold 60k/6d==10k/d. That's assuming sales staying constant, which is obviously not the case, sales tend to be higher shortly after the release than later on.
Post by: vudu on November 11, 2005, 02:50:22 AM
However, Nintendo should definitely NOT make RE4 Player's Choice until after Christmas. They don't want to piss off Capcom. Even through Capcom kind of screwed Nintendo over with the PS2 port, if Nintendo tries to "get even" they risk damaging their already rocky relationship with Capcom. They last thing Nintendo wants (or should want) is to piss off a major third party.
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2005, 03:05:09 AM
In more positive news, Mario Party 7 has debuted in the Japanese Daily Sales charts at number one.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2005, 04:42:46 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 11, 2005, 08:31:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
In more positive news, Mario Party 7 has debuted in the Japanese Daily Sales charts at number one.
Japanese Daily Sales - Thursday Nov 10th 05
1 NGC Mario Party 7 (Nintendo) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
2 PS2 Shinobido Imashime (Spike) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
3 PS2 NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
4 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
5 PS2 Sakigake ! ! Otokojuku (D3) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
6 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
7 NDS Otona no DS Golf (Nintendo) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
8 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 88: The Mini Bijo Keikan (D3) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
9 PS2 The Getaway: Black Monday (Sega) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
10 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
11 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
12 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
13 PSP Fukufuku no Shima (SCE) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
14 PS2 Fuuuraiki 2 (Fog) Nov 10th 05
15 NGC Harvest Moon: Poem of Happiness for World (M(NEW)arvelous Ent.) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
16 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
17 PSP La Corda d'Oro (Koei) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
18 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 05
19 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
20 PS2 Wander and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
Post by: ruby_onix on November 11, 2005, 01:48:41 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
There is no minimum sales requirement to qualify as Player's Choice (back in the N64 days it was 1 million units).
However, Nintendo should definitely NOT make RE4 Player's Choice until after Christmas. They don't want to piss off Capcom.
Actually, that's not how it works. Nintendo can't tell a publisher how much they can charge for a game. That's called "price fixing", and it's illegal (and Nintendo learned that the hard way).
Nintendo simply charges a royalty fee, which is about $10 in this generation, and the publisher needs about $5 to get eaten up by all the middlemen (shipping, retail, that kind of thing), and then beyond that everything is entirely up to the publisher. They can set the MSRP at $20 and only make $5 per-game, or they can charge $100 and earn $85. It's all up to the publisher. Even if they usually just charge $50.
In the N64 days, Nintendo said that if you sold 1 million units, you could get a break on the royalties, but considering that the royalties were something like $35 (because of carts) it wasn't very popular, because you'd have to invest something like $35 million just to get a royalty rate that was still an absurd joke compared to what you could pay on the PlayStation.
For the newer systems, the royalty is like $10, and if you agree to sell your game for less than $50, and you meet some stupid stupid "shipment" quota (it's supposedly something pathetic like 50,000 units, at which point it almost doesn't exist), then you can get a $2-5 break on the royalty, and Nintendo will slap a "Best Seller" or "Player's Choice" tag on your game. I think that Nintendo still can't make a publisher sell the game for less than $50 at that point, but the ugly logos on the box will prevent anyone from paying full price for the game, should the publisher decide to lie to Nintendo.
Nintendo actually has two levels of "discount" games. The first has a "Best Seller" logo on it, and you're supposed to charge $40 or less for those, and the other has those yellow bars on it, and you're supposed to charge $30 or less for those ones.
Basically, if a publisher wants their game to go Player's Choice, it can.
As long as Capcom still thinks they can still sell some copies of RE4 on the PS2 at full price, they aren't gonna make up any cheaper GameCube versions and undermine the sales of the PS2 version. They'll most likely drop the price of the PS2 version before the GameCube one, just to try and keep the "excitement level" up.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2005, 01:59:30 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on November 11, 2005, 02:26:27 PM
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I think that Nintendo still can't make a publisher sell the game for less than $50 at that point, but the ugly logos on the box will prevent anyone from paying full price for the game (unless it's Pro666, and he needs his latest Daisy fix)...
Fixed.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2005, 10:17:50 PM
Actually they can. The publisher is a licensee and as such bound by a contract that could require certain prices (though I doubt Nintendo's contracts enforce a price). What Nintendo did in Europe was trying to force retailers to do that and prevent EU-internal importing to cause price differences between EU member states. That IS illegal, you cannot set up EU-internal trade restrictions.
Nintendo CAN get you for demanding full price for a "Player's Choice" title, however. If you agree to something in a contract (and it doesn't violate any laws) you are legally bound by it. Setting a price the goods may sell for in a licensing deal is completely normal and legal. Since Nintendo can and will argue that you got an advantage by falsely declaring you'd sell it at a lower price they are eligible for damages, add any statutory fees you feel like.
Post by: Mario on November 12, 2005, 01:34:21 PM
GCN ANIMAL CROSSING $309,573 16330
GCN FIRE EMBLEM: PATH OF RADIAN $2,417,799 50164
GCN GEIST $87,428 1866
GCN LUIGI'S MANSION $243,976 13338
GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL $216,550 11941
GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS $241,460 5224
GCN MARIO SUPERSTAR BASEBALL $2,776,914 59758
GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $457,954 24466
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $601,021 20624
GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER $266,164 14031
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 12, 2005, 01:42:06 PM
Post by: odifiend on November 12, 2005, 03:29:06 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 12, 2005, 08:32:19 PM
Post by: odifiend on November 12, 2005, 10:02:48 PM
My ad would be trying to the attention of the best selling cube game's purchasers. I said it a few post back in a pretty cynical way, but Nintendo games tend not to move unless there is a mascot involved. "Mascots" are involved in Fire Emblem. I look forward to seeing Ike in SSB:R. So, if that is the only thing stopping Fire Emblem from selling, inform the masses that it is a franchise and that they've played with some of its characters already.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 12, 2005, 10:30:32 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 13, 2005, 01:09:46 AM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onixQuote
I think that Nintendo still can't make a publisher sell the game for less than $50 at that point, but the ugly logos on the box will prevent anyone from paying full price for the game (unless it's Pro666, and he needs his latest Daisy fix)...
Fixed.
What the heck are you talking about?
~~~~~
Mario Power Tennis is a $50 game, still. I don't see <=$40 price tags coinciding with its "Best Seller" label in any major retail chains.
Post by: odifiend on November 13, 2005, 04:09:16 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
SSBM is an action game that is perceived as mindless and great for parties. How many of those characteristics does Fire Emblem share?
Those that perceive it as such are mistaken... My point was the "demographic" that likes smash brother can almost be equated to those who own gamecubes. I thought you were being facetious in suggesting that SSB:M even has a demographic. KDR, are you suggesting that people who own SSB:M only have games that are 'mindless' and great for parties? Because I don't think Metroid Prime or Marios Sunshine or Zelda are any of those things. But I bet 9 times out of ten people who own any of these formerly mentioned games also own SSBM. Nintendo made a quality game and the ad is designed to have their consumers to keep an open mind. That is all an ad can do, well here in North America, I don't know about Germany
. They wouldn't be appealing to anyone like they are for nongames since the game is already made...Post by: KDR_11k on November 13, 2005, 04:39:48 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2005, 10:02:51 AM
I think any association with SSBM would only be a plus for FE and could actually help pick up more sales for both titles.
Post by: ruby_onix on November 14, 2005, 02:21:13 AM
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Mario Power Tennis is a $50 game, still. I don't see <=$40 price tags coinciding with its "Best Seller" label in any major retail chains.
Hmmm... yeah, you're right. I just checked Paper Mario at ebgames.com, and it's $50 too.
I had heard that that games with the "Best Seller" logo were like "midway points" between the full priced games and the Player's Choice ones. Maybe the ones with the Best Seller logo have reduced royalties, but just don't pass it on to the consumer? Seems odd.
Also, I was just recently wondering why Nintendo even bothers to make Player's Choice versions at all (for their own Nintendo-published games), considering that they pay themselves the royalty. I mean really, what's the point in them negotiating themselves a better royalty rate with themselves?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 14, 2005, 03:48:28 AM
Post by: vudu on November 14, 2005, 08:35:47 AM
QuoteMy copy of Paper Mario had a "Best Seller" logo on it. I bought it the day it came out.
I had heard that that games with the "Best Seller" logo were like "midway points" between the full priced games and the Player's Choice ones. Maybe the ones with the Best Seller logo have reduced royalties, but just don't pass it on to the consumer? Seems odd.
Post by: couchmonkey on November 14, 2005, 09:18:50 AM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 15, 2005, 11:34:12 AM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 12, 2005, 12:03:28 PM
I wish I could say the 360 was a bomb but I really didn't expect it to be at the top with the limited systems. And it was only out for nine days of the month. All things considered 360 numbers are actually impressive.
Post by: mantidor on December 12, 2005, 12:51:31 PM
but even the dreamcast launch was succesful. And jesus the GBA sells like mad, as much as people mock the third pillar thing its actually working.
Post by: Mario on December 12, 2005, 12:52:15 PM
Looks like GameCube might end up outselling Xbox worldwide.
Post by: IceCold on December 12, 2005, 01:18:44 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2005, 01:44:13 AM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 13, 2005, 03:02:23 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2005, 05:48:32 AM
Post by: Renny on December 13, 2005, 05:50:00 AM
Post by: vudu on December 13, 2005, 08:55:41 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2005, 09:06:37 AM
Post by: joeposh on December 13, 2005, 09:27:33 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Well, the initial shipment of the X360 was 400k units and no additional shipments have been sent in the US so it's really hard to guess what numbers it'll have...
Umm... no, there have definately been shipments since launch. Some retailers are stocking up to put a bunch out at once and others are still working on fufilling pre-orders or putting them out as they trickle in.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 13, 2005, 11:42:38 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on December 14, 2005, 05:07:11 AM
Pretending that the numbers are real, I'd say GameCube has a very real chance of outselling Xbox over their whole lifetimes since Microsoft has basically put the Xbox in it's coffin a year earlier than GameCube. Already the Cube is starting to outsell it (again assuming that the numbers are real). Also, since NPD doesn't have Toys R Us or Wal-Mart, I'd say that probably means a bit of a bias against Nintendo. Kids are still a huge market for Nintendo, and you can imagine parents are more comfortable buying games and systems at Wal-Mart or Toys R Us than Gamestop.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2005, 07:16:32 AM
PS2 = 531,000
Xbox = 197,000
GCN = 272,000
DS = 370,000 (approx)
Xbox 360 software sales = 1.3 million units, Tie ratio of almost 4:1.
Overall software sales are down 18% over November 2004. Console software sales are down 33%, even with the Xbox 360 sales contribution.
Console hardware sales are down 44% over last year. Ugh.
November Top 25 Software Sales
US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher
Rank Title Publisher
1 XBX STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
2 PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
3 360 CALL OF DUTY 2 Activision
4 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
5 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2 THQ
6 360 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
7 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES Take 2 Interactive
8 PS2 TONY HAWK AMERICAN WASTELAND Activision
9 GCN MARIO PARTY 7 Nintendo
10 NDS MARIO KART Nintendo
11 PS2 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF Vivendi
12 PS2 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision
13 360 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts
14 PS2 SOUL CALIBUR III Namco
15 PS2 DRAGON BALL Z: BUDOKAI TENK Atari
16 PS2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts
17 PS2 BLITZ: THE LEAGUE Midway
18 PS2 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts
19 PS2 RATCHET: DEADLOCKED Sony
20 PSP STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
21 360 PERFECT DARK ZERO LTD ED Microsoft
22 PS2 SOCOM 3: US NAVY SEALS Sony
23 PS2 GUN Activision
24 PS2 THE MATRIX: PATH OF NEO Atari
25 XBX CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision
Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.
PS2
1 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
3 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2 THQ
Xbox
1 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
2 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision
3 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
Xbox 360
1 CALL OF DUTY 2 Activision
2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
3 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts
GameCube
1 MARIO PARTY 7 Nintendo
2 DDR MARIO MIX W/MAT Konami
3 POKEMON XD Nintendo
U.S. #'s from TheStreet.com
353,434 PSP
369,012 DS
535,000 PS2
325,902 XBox 360
819,733 GBA
Post by: vudu on December 14, 2005, 08:36:50 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2005, 12:58:46 PM
Edit: I DON'T KNOW ANY MORE.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2005, 05:26:34 PM
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2006, 02:32:16 AM
GCN - 606,423
Xbox - 415,000
Xbox 360 - 281,441
PS2 - 1,500,000
GC Nintendo Published games that sold over 50,000 -
(Note: Mario Party 7 numbers does not include bundle sales)
1. Mario Party 7 342,206
2. Super Mario Strikers 310,427
3. Super Mario Sunshine 140,716
4. Mario Superstar Baseball 125,198
5. Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness 109,258
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee 107,552
7. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! 97,006
8. Animal Crossing 96,304
9. Luigi's Mansion 67,635
10. Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour 62,998
11. Kirby Air Ride 60,894
12. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance 60,103
13. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 58,630
14. Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 54,166
Nobody likes Mario anymore.....
No game sold over 1 million in December, which has to be a first, the top selling game was Madden on PS2 at just over 700,000, followed closely by Nintendogs.
Top selling GC games in the US in 2005 (third party junk not included LOLOL, also note, these totals are sales from 2005 only)
Resident Evil 4 614,476
Super Mario Sunshine 532,962
Mario Party 7 500,653
Super Smash Bros. Melee 435,436
Mario Superstar Baseball 406,338
Animal Crossing 348,110
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness 336,022
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 329,385
Super Mario Strikers 310,427
Kirby Air Ride 283,503
Pokemon Colosseum 281,519
Star Fox: Assault 277,838
Mario Party 6 273,196
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat 261,438
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour 251,488
Luigi's Mansion 244,578
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! 221,465
Mario Power Tennis 155,487
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance 145,935
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 139,029
Tales of Symphonia 136,939
Paper Mario: Thousand-Year Door 136,882
Donkey Konga 2 123,250
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles 101,321
Soul Calibur II 87,861
Donkey Konga 77,103
1080 Avalanche 61,726
Metroid Prime 59,704
Pikmin 2 56,299
Battalion Wars 54,077
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords 51,955
Wario Ware Inc. 46,063
F-Zero GX 41,119
Star Fox Adventures 27,480
Geist 27,164
Custom Robo 25,946
Pokemon Channel 22,158
Pikmin 10,473
Eternal Darkness 10,190
Wave Race: Blue Storm 9,047
Disney's Magical Mirror 5,320
NBA Courtside 2002 2,688
Post by: couchmonkey on January 17, 2006, 06:34:25 AM
Post by: Nosferat2 on January 17, 2006, 07:34:42 AM
Im glad to see that RE4 passed 600K. Hope it hits 700k. unlikely. I want RE5 on the Rev.
Anyone know the total numbers for MP 2 Echoes?
Post by: vudu on January 17, 2006, 09:03:25 AM
2005 total sales: Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 139,029
That's weird. The game was out for the entire year, but almost 40% of its sales are from December.
Note: I'm not trying to answer Nosferat2's question; it's just a coincidence.
Post by: joeposh on January 17, 2006, 10:45:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Well Geist with only 27,000 sold pretty much assures us of no sequel for the Rev.. that blows.
Im glad to see that RE4 passed 600K. Hope it hits 700k. unlikely. I want RE5 on the Rev.
Anyone know the total numbers for MP 2 Echoes?
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes - 601,453
Post by: odifiend on January 17, 2006, 11:26:05 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
December sales: 14. Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 54,166
2005 total sales: Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 139,029
That's weird. The game was out for the entire year, but almost 40% of its sales are from December.
Note: I'm not trying to answer Nosferat2's question; it's just a coincidence.
Not weird at all. It was 10 dollars at Toys R Us and reduced everywhere else. I even picked up a couple copies for my friends.
Post by: Nosferat2 on January 17, 2006, 12:51:28 PM
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes - 601,453
Thanks, Glad MP 2 broke 600K too. but still should have done much better as it is every bit as good as the first if not better. At least a million. Oh well.
Vudu that should not surprise. I think Echoes came out thanksgiving 2004. Therefore in one and a half months it sold almost 500k in 2004! Thats the Christmas rush i guess. ANd yes the price drop certainly helped.
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2006, 01:49:08 PM
GC - 257,004
XBX - 65,389
PS2 - 184,012
It sold best on Cube... seriously, WHY?
Check this out
SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE |1,275,344|
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION |1,081,237|
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 | 772,289 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL | 735,776 |
SONIC HEROES | 685,995 |
SONIC ADVENTURE DX | 671,447 |
SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG | 257,004 |
That's the order of Segas 7 best selling games on GC, look at all those Sonic games (8th is PSO). It's like there's this massive cult of GC owners who only come out of the closet to buy Sonic games. Also it's interesting how Super Monkey Ball 2 has now outsold Super Monkey Ball 1, Nintendo fans are starved for another one, yet they release freaking SMB DX which flops massively, hopefully they were just testing the waters with that and NOW realise that Super Monkey Ball belongs on Nintendo consoles.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 17, 2006, 02:02:26 PM
Post by: Renny on January 17, 2006, 04:11:25 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 17, 2006, 04:18:18 PM
but I'm afraid it will exhaust sega's brainpower to figure this out, and they won't have any left to actually make the game
Post by: KDR_11k on January 17, 2006, 09:00:26 PM
Post by: vudu on January 18, 2006, 08:19:53 AM
QuoteI blame European immigrants.
Oh god... people are buying Shadow the Hedgehog.
QuoteDo you happen to have sales info for PS2 and Xbox for the Sonic games and SMB DX?
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION |1,081,237|
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 | 772,289 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL | 735,776 |
SONIC HEROES | 685,995 |
Post by: Mario on January 18, 2006, 03:11:30 PM
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION PLUS - 357,973
SONIC HEROES - 266,425
SUPER MONKEY BALL DX - 66,423
SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG - 65,389
PS2
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION PLUS - 692,781
SONIC HEROES - 613,207
SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG - 184,012
SUPER MONKEY BALL DX - 78,581
I remember those Sonic Mega Collection Plus numbers being significantly lower mere months ago, they must have got a recent boost for some reason, regardless, GC is still on top. Also, since release, Super Monkey Ball DX has been outsold by Super Monkey Ball 2 each month.
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Mario: Oh that's nothing. Shadow made the top spot in the UK rankings IIRC.
We're all doomed!
Post by: Khushrenada on January 18, 2006, 06:35:17 PM
Anyhoo, my guess is the did the same thing this year and sent a bunch of copies to stores over the holidays for cheap.
Post by: joeposh on January 18, 2006, 07:18:30 PM
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Originally posted by: odifiendQuote
Originally posted by: vudu
December sales: 14. Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 54,166
2005 total sales: Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 139,029
That's weird. The game was out for the entire year, but almost 40% of its sales are from December.
Note: I'm not trying to answer Nosferat2's question; it's just a coincidence.
Not weird at all. It was 10 dollars at Toys R Us and reduced everywhere else. I even picked up a couple copies for my friends.
That was the very end of the month, and if that were true RE4 and Giest should have experienced sharp spikes as well. I'll agree that Metroid Prime 2's lower price tag played a role, but I also think it was a good pick up for Gamecube owners who passed on it last christmas (or for parents who were familiar with the name). As you can see, alot of other Nintendo franchises that don't really set the world on fire month to month experience sales spikes in December.
Post by: couchmonkey on January 19, 2006, 05:32:50 AM
I think Shadow and the other Sonic games sell well on Cube because it (GameCube) has a large fanbase of kids. The name is well-known so the games sell even though they're not the best. Cube fans might have better taste than others but it doesn't mean we're perfect.
Post by: odifiend on January 19, 2006, 06:10:01 AM
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Originally posted by: joeposh
That was the very end of the month, and if that were true RE4 and Giest should have experienced sharp spikes as well. I'll agree that Metroid Prime 2's lower price tag played a role, but I also think it was a good pick up for Gamecube owners who passed on it last christmas (or for parents who were familiar with the name). As you can see, alot of other Nintendo franchises that don't really set the world on fire month to month experience sales spikes in December.
Last I checked the end of the month was still part of the month and hmm... I thought 50K in december are the numbers Geist did. RE4 is available on PS2 now 'expanded' so its december sales probably weren't as high on GCN. I don't exactly know what you are trying to argue or add - people passed on it last xmas because it was still 50 dollars. A low price tag did it.
Post by: IceCold on January 19, 2006, 10:46:25 AM
I think in Japan it did quite well (as well as possible for RE games or games of that genre over there). However, in North America, it bombed..
Post by: stevey on January 19, 2006, 05:18:29 PM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Anyone know what PS2 sales for Resident Evil 4 are?
I think Shadow and the other Sonic games sell well on Cube because it (GameCube) has a large fanbase of kids. The name is well-known so the games sell even though they're not the best. Cube fans might have better taste than others but it doesn't mean we're perfect.
I think that it just that all of the sega fanboys went to the cube for games when the dreamcast die.
Post by: jasonditz on January 20, 2006, 02:34:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Well Geist with only 27,000 sold pretty much assures us of no sequel for the Rev.. that blows.
Considering how long it took them to get this one to market, I'd say we can rule out a Revolution version unless they start work on it today.
Post by: jasonditz on January 20, 2006, 02:35:40 PM
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Originally posted by: steveyQuote
Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Anyone know what PS2 sales for Resident Evil 4 are?
I think Shadow and the other Sonic games sell well on Cube because it (GameCube) has a large fanbase of kids. The name is well-known so the games sell even though they're not the best. Cube fans might have better taste than others but it doesn't mean we're perfect.
I think that it just that all of the sega fanboys went to the cube for games when the dreamcast die.
That's how I got here...
Post by: odifiend on January 21, 2006, 07:54:46 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 22, 2006, 09:24:33 AM
Post by: odifiend on January 22, 2006, 11:01:11 AM
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Originally posted by: animecyberrat
shows how much yo know, I am actualy as huge Sega fan and I am well past being a child and I still think Shadow is Cool. Well anyways I just get so irritated when people insult other people just cuz tehy like somethign tahts different./ grow the hell up.
I don't know if this falls into more of your 'joke' posting... Shadow's look as cool but as a character he sucks. Give him a gun and it just makes it worse. If you really are a Sega fan, the idea of a sonic knockoff with a gun should have you wretching your insides out.
I get irritated when other people criticize when they don't even read what they are criticizing.
Post by: animecyberrat on January 22, 2006, 12:26:14 PM
But as a Sonic fan I honetly was looking forward to playing Shadow just cuz its more sonic for me, and the gun idea adds to the gameplay I would think. But again I wasnt being serious ecept I do like the concept of the game and still want to get it, but I am in minority I think cuz I liked Heros also and yeah I get flamed for that alot too. But sorry if I offended you I need to find a way to maybe reply with smilies or something I dont knwo give me some suggestions, cuz in real life I always talk like this but people here in my voice I am jokng, stupid internet dont let you do that so i come off as either sarcastic but not easy to tell or flat out rude sometimes.
.... and then tehres the times I say what I mean but pretend I am joking so yeah try and figure me out.
Oh come on I only come here to have fun cuz it lets me forget about all the crap i put up with in real life.
Post by: odifiend on January 22, 2006, 02:14:05 PM
