Author Topic: Official Virtual Console Mondays Thread (Read 716419 times)

Entroper · « **Reply #850 on:** March 05, 2007, 03:38:10 AM »

Yes, in most cases emulators run original, unmodified game code. The N64 is an exception to this, because it would be very difficult to write a program to emulate all of its hardware capabilities in realtime. So N64 emulators use what's called high-level emulation, where they analyze the game code and either recompile it to run natively, or do something that approximates the original. A good example of the inexact-ness of high-level emulation is in OoT, where certain procedural texturing effects had to be replaced by more generic effects, because they couldn't replicate the exact results of the N64's graphics chip. You can see this when Kakariko Village is being attacked by the evil spirit (replaced by a brown blob thing, the original was purple and constantly changing) and in TwinRova's spells. You can also see it in Mario 64 with the invisible cap (Mario becomes translucent instead of "pixely").

31 Flavas · « **Reply #851 on:** March 05, 2007, 04:11:55 AM »

But these inexact emulation techniques are not what Nintendo is doing for N64 games on VC, right? Just what the individual emulators are doing. I'd hate to buy OoT or Starfox on VC and for either to have graphical differences from the original. On an individual home emulator, i'd be fine. But not on Nintendo's VC.

tssf · « **Reply #852 on:** March 05, 2007, 04:39:53 AM »

The "pixelation" effect when Mario wears the cap is nothing more than a dithering technique to simulate transparency. Look at Ocarina of Time, a lot of the effects couldn't use a real transparency effect because it used up too much processing power and would slow the framerate down. (The Master sword or the glowing effects in the last battle for instance).

IceCold · « **Reply #853 on:** March 05, 2007, 07:07:17 AM »

Where's my Nintendo World Cup??

Maverick · « **Reply #854 on:** March 05, 2007, 03:06:39 PM »

I must say I'm a tad dissapointed with this Monday. I think DKC, Super Mario World, and Mario Kart spoiled me.

Kairon · « **Reply #855 on:** March 05, 2007, 03:09:51 PM »

I'm REALLY considering getting Sword of Vermillion. But its lukewarm re3ception from so many places makes me pause even though I'm perfectly fine with old gameplay.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Adrock · « **Reply #856 on:** March 05, 2007, 04:36:08 PM »

Virtual Console doesn't really interest me. I'm waiting for some of the rarer gems. Give me Soul Blazer and I'll kick an old lady to the ground for a Wii Points card.

What happened to Quintet? They were awesome back in the day.

Svevan · « **Reply #857 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:11:24 PM »

SWORD OF VERMILLION IS CRAAAAAAAAP.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #858 on:** March 06, 2007, 08:08:13 AM »

Dunno, I couldn't be bothered to get out of the starting town because of the clunky interface (you stand in front of a door, you push the action button and a menu appears in case you'd rather want to talk to the door or try eating it instead of opening it).

Caliban · « **Reply #859 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:18:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: Svevan
SWORD OF VERMILLION IS CRAAAAAAAAP.

Indeed.
Now, if only I could get a refund...

Kairon · « **Reply #860 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:25:40 AM »

Svevan has spoken. I obey.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

KDR_11k · « **Reply #861 on:** March 06, 2007, 08:42:10 PM »

Refund? I got that with the Mega Drive collection and that includes enough good games to be worth the 30€.

Ghisy · « **Reply #862 on:** March 07, 2007, 04:38:27 AM »

I want Soul Blazer on the VC!!! And Actraiser! NOW! *pouts*

Ghisy · « **Reply #863 on:** March 10, 2007, 10:08:32 AM »

Well, I just read on nintendojo that Square-Enix has announced Actraiser for the VC!!
Maybe they read my post? o_O

Kairon · « **Reply #864 on:** March 10, 2007, 10:30:35 AM »

Since SquareEnix is listening in on this thread...

Illusion of Gaia please.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #865 on:** March 10, 2007, 10:48:57 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ghisy
Well, I just read on nintendojo that Square-Enix has announced Actraiser for the VC!!
Maybe they read my post? o_O

Not to burst your bubble, but we did know about Act Raiser before you posted.

And the real reason I'm responding: who is that girl

in your avatar?
Is that you?

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Since SquareEnix is listening in on this thread...

Illusion of Gaia please.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Thats the sequel to Soul Blazer isn't it, for SNES?

Ghisy · « **Reply #866 on:** March 10, 2007, 09:30:45 PM »

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
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Originally posted by: Ghisy
Well, I just read on nintendojo that Square-Enix has announced Actraiser for the VC!!
Maybe they read my post? o_O
Not to burst your bubble, but we did know about Act Raiser before you posted.

We did??? Ok I guess I haven't been paying attention then...

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And the real reason I'm responding: who is that girl in your avatar?
Is that you?

Haha, nope!! I'm a guy, just fyi

That's Vanessa Carlton, she's awesome.

Maverick · « **Reply #867 on:** March 11, 2007, 08:04:14 PM »

Don't tease us like that.

Rhoq · « **Reply #868 on:** March 12, 2007, 01:39:31 AM »

Today's VC Releases (March 12, 2007)

1. Tecmo Bowl™ (NES®, 1-2 players, 500 Wii Points)
2. Sonic Spinball™ (Sega Genesis, 1-4 players, 800 Wii Points)
3. Double Dungeons (TurboGrafx16, 1-2 players, 600 Wii Points)

Read the official press release HERE.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #869 on:** March 12, 2007, 04:43:25 AM »

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Originally posted by: Rhoq
Today's VC Releases (March 12, 2007)

1. Tecmo Bowl™ (NES®, 1-2 players, 500 Wii Points)
2. Sonic Spinball™ (Sega Genesis, 1-4 players, 800 Wii Points)
3. Double Dungeons (TurboGrafx16, 1-2 players, 600 Wii Points)

Read the official press release HERE.

Kinda disappointing. I'm sure many will go gaga over Tecmo Bowl, but the other two are a tad lackluster.

Hope they don't slow down with the releases.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #870 on:** March 12, 2007, 04:47:12 AM »

When are we going to see Star Fox 64? I was hoping soon.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #871 on:** March 12, 2007, 05:14:47 AM »

Such a clever tease releasing Tecmo Bowl before Tecmo Super Bowl.

Sonic Spinball sure has been re-released a lot for a game that is almost universally considered horrible.

Darc Requiem · « **Reply #872 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:01:36 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Such a clever tease releasing Tecmo Bowl before Tecmo Super Bowl.

Sonic Spinball sure has been re-released a lot for a game that is almost universally considered horrible.

Ian, you do realize that EA has the exclusive NFL license right? I don't think they can release Tecmo Super Bowl, at least not without coming to some sort of arrangement with EA.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #873 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:15:35 AM »

"Ian, you do realize that EA has the exclusive NFL license right? I don't think they can release Tecmo Super Bowl, at least not without coming to some sort of arrangement with EA."

F*ck. I didn't even think of that.

Kairon · « **Reply #874 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:52:27 AM »

Tecmo Bowl! Tecmo Bowl! Life is great! Tecmo Bowl! Tecmo Bowl! My dad is happy! YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Oh, and I promised a friend I'll get him Sonic Spinball, and I'm in danger of succumbing to Double Dungeons for an RPG fix of sorts.

TECMO BOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

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