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Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack To Also Include Otherwise Paid DLC Beginning With AC: New Horizons Pack

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broodwars:

--- Quote from: nickmitch on October 15, 2021, 08:09:37 PM ---Has Nintendo confirmed if other paid DLC would be coming to NSO?  The video made it sound like Animal Crossing was specifically included in the "+ Expansion Pack".

My biggest issue with that, even if they do include future DLC, is that I don't think Nintendo does nearly enough to DLC to justify the extra $30.  I'd imagine Smash Bros would be exempt because of 3rd Party licensing issues, and Pokemon would be exempt because it's Pokemon.  That doesn't leave a lot of titles that Nintendo puts out paid DLC for.  On Switch, there's been BotW, Luigi's Mansion 3, Splatoon 2, FE Three Houses, and Age of Calamity.  I may be forgetting some things but for that money, I wouldn't really feel like I'm getting my money's worth unless there was DLC for a game I was particularly interested in.

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You forgot Xenoblade 2 (though in that case, you're pretty much buying an entire other game with that expansion DLC), but yeah. I have absolutely no interest in Animal Crossing, so that "expansion" DLC is completely worthless to me.

nickmitch:

--- Quote from: broodwars on October 15, 2021, 08:34:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: nickmitch on October 15, 2021, 08:09:37 PM ---Has Nintendo confirmed if other paid DLC would be coming to NSO?  The video made it sound like Animal Crossing was specifically included in the "+ Expansion Pack".

My biggest issue with that, even if they do include future DLC, is that I don't think Nintendo does nearly enough to DLC to justify the extra $30.  I'd imagine Smash Bros would be exempt because of 3rd Party licensing issues, and Pokemon would be exempt because it's Pokemon.  That doesn't leave a lot of titles that Nintendo puts out paid DLC for.  On Switch, there's been BotW, Luigi's Mansion 3, Splatoon 2, FE Three Houses, and Age of Calamity.  I may be forgetting some things but for that money, I wouldn't really feel like I'm getting my money's worth unless there was DLC for a game I was particularly interested in.

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You forgot Xenoblade 2 (though in that case, you're pretty much buying an entire other game with that expansion DLC), but yeah. I have absolutely no interest in Animal Crossing, so that "expansion" DLC is completely worthless to me.

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You're right! I had a feeling I was missing a big one.  I do wonder if they'd include something like that since they sold it as a standalone game. 

I'm not really interested in the AC DLC either, so it's a tough sell for the remaining two pieces to this.

BeautifulShy:

--- Quote from: Mop it up on October 15, 2021, 06:37:10 PM ---Pure bonkers.

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I guess you are not getting the family plan upgrade then...

Enner:

--- Quote from: Mythtendo on October 15, 2021, 07:51:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Enner on October 15, 2021, 12:06:48 PM ---The balls on this fucking company sometimes. Jeez....

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Yeah, because $4 a month for online service and hundreds of free games to play is a terrible deal.  :rolleyes:

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Heh.

Honestly, I'll be one of the first to proclaim the base NSO is fine. This is probably due to my major online multiplayer experiences being Splatoon 2, Tetris 99, and Monster Hunter Rise. All those games worked well online, though I did have my small share of latency spikes and disconnects in Splatoon 2. I don't talk much at all, so the utter lack of communication and social features built in to the system and the service is something I shrug off.

I'll throw a tea-table-flipping argument in favor to Nintendo on this: Maybe the $50 individual/$80 family pricing is the fair and profitable price for Nintendo's efforts. Meaning however Microsoft and, to a lesser extent, Sony are charging for their subscription services, they are loss leaders. Of course, neither Microsoft or Sony are sweating since they are in for a long-haul user-acquisition mode and/or have other revenue sources. Nintendo is a smaller company, so whatever (bad) licensing deals they made they intend to profit off of immediately. Of course, since we the public will never be privy to the numbers, we won't know what's exactly what.

Compared to all other manner of video game stuff I can throw my money at, NSO+XP just looks like a bad deal for me at the moment. I don't go to old games that often and I'm not sure if I want the Happy Home Designer sequel-as-an-expansion for Animal Crossing New Horizons. I guess this is a weird feeling, but I wouldn't mind giving Nintendo subscription money. However, I'm disappointed that they made such a poor initial offering. Maybe in due time, this will be an easy way to get all the expansions to Nintendo games. Maybe the old game offerings will get some games that are too curious to pass up. Maybe Nintendo can layoff being so greedy and let you keep the expansion DLC for full-priced games once your annual subscription lapses. As far as I can see at the moment, the deal is not appealing.

Luigi Dude:
The fact they're jumping the price up to $50 a year pretty much guarantees Gamecube games and Wii games will be hitting the service in the future since we know Nintendo has a working emulator for those systems.  The only problem is they should have games from those systems ready at launch to justify the price increase at this time.

It's kind of like how the $20 for NSO at launch when it only had 20 NES titles wasn't that great a value, but when you fast forward a year and they now added 20 SNES titles, along with all the NES titles they got put in since the launch of the system, suddenly that $20 was a great deal compared to what you were getting.

Right now I want to see how active they'll be with this new expansion.  One of the reasons why you had such a slow drip on the base service is because of how cheap it was.  With Nintendo charging a good deal more, I'd like to imagine they'll be more proactive with how many games hit the service, since they have way more of a reason to sell this.  People have to remember the base plan is required just to play online games, while the expansion is purely optional.  The base plan got the bare minimum because it was something you kind of needed to buy anyway, while this new plan is something Nintendo has to make more appealing to get people to buy.

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