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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #100 on: July 03, 2004, 05:10:46 AM »
Yeah, I think Xbox is outselling GC all over Europe at the moment too though, but I can't be sure.

And that Metroid Prime bundle apparently contains a MP2 demo disk, which would be a great bundle for anyone interested in Metroid, and should sell very well if advertised properly. A Resident Evil bundle would be a good idea too... throw in a RE4 demo and it'll go flying off shelves.

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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2004, 11:58:42 PM »
anyone get any numbers for june?
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« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2004, 09:30:04 AM »

good question

personally, I'm wondering how many copies of tales has been sold so far...
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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2004, 06:17:05 PM »
Numbers for June should be out within the next week. I predict Driv3r will be on top, not sure how Four Swords would have done, but I don't expect much.

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« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2004, 07:37:57 PM »
well, FF:CC did damn well considering the requirements, and zelda has equal/better name recognition.
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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2004, 08:44:30 PM »
Well it does have the 2D disadvantage. As for system sales I expect the usual GBA > PS2 > Xbox >>> GCN.

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« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2004, 08:57:14 PM »
2D didn't stop Sonic Mega Collection from going over 400,000.  Without ads.
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« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2004, 08:59:05 PM »
Interestingly enough, the Gamecube has twice the number of million sellers as the XBox in America.
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RE:New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2004, 11:11:02 PM »
Well MC no one really bought all the other Xbox games beside halo, tom clancy  games , random shooters, KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden,and the random Xbox Live!(or !eviL by KDR's book) games you get my drift....   As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.
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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #109 on: July 18, 2004, 11:53:40 AM »
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As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.


The software sell rate is about...

PS2: 8.10
Xbox: 6.58
GCN: 6.09
GBA: 3.42

It says so in this very thread.
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« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2004, 04:39:36 PM »
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Interestingly enough, the Gamecube has twice the number of million sellers as the XBox in America.



True dat. The reason Xbox sells more games though is that is has so many games in that middle ground. The ones that sell 100k+ but not a million. With gamecube, it's more like you sell great, or you completely flop.

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« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2004, 04:40:57 PM »
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Well MC no one really bought all the other Xbox games beside halo, tom clancy  games , random shooters, KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden,and the random Xbox Live!(or !eviL by KDR's book) games you get my drift....   As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.

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« Reply #112 on: July 18, 2004, 07:15:01 PM »
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As I heard the Xbox software sell rate is pretty crappy comparing to software sales of GCN,PS2,GBA.


The software sell rate is about...

PS2: 8.10
Xbox: 6.58
GCN: 6.09
GBA: 3.42

It says so in this very thread.


Erm.. According to the most recent EGM in their Nintendo E3 section, the average number of games in a GC owner's library is 12.8 games.  Or do you mean something different?


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RE:New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #113 on: July 21, 2004, 09:50:19 AM »
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Erm.. According to the most recent EGM in their Nintendo E3 section, the average number of games in a GC owner's library is 12.8 games.  Or do you mean something different?


True.  And Nintendo states they forecast sales of 20 million gamecubes (total) by the end of this fiscal year according to that same issue.  
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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #114 on: July 21, 2004, 12:29:19 PM »
Top Selling Games By Platform For June 2004 (Retail Sales $)

PS2 Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision 10,038,050 $ 205,575
2 DRIV3R Atari 7,041,583 $ 142,295
3 SHREK 2 Activision 5,432,124 $ 125,911
4 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts 4,701,471 $ 98,240
5 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts 4,691,477 $ 117,787

Xbox Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ 9,391,057 $ 190,004
2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision 6,791,006 $ 138,042
3 CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi Universal 6,432,399 $ 130,572
4 DRIV3R Atari 4,743,799 $ 95,853
5 HALO Microsoft 2,968,140 $ 100,016

GC Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo 7,656,926 $ 155,067
2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts 3,331,438 $ 83,821
3 SHREK 2 Activision 3,272,307 $ 71,924
4 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision 3,020,518 $ 61,415
5 POKEMON COLOSSEUM Nintendo 2,302,391 $ 46,997

GBA Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG Nintendo 3,131,446 $ 102,511
2 SHREK 2 Activision 2,677,619 $ 89,683
3 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts 2,202,763 $ 74,397
4 SONIC ADVANCE 3 THQ 2,144,672 $ 72,278
5 SUPER MARIO CLASSIC Nintendo 2,144,496 $ 110,627

June 2004 Hardware Sales

PS2: 427,000
Xbox: 262,000
GCN: 109,000
GBA: 521,000

LTD Tie Ratios

PS2: 8.43
Xbox: 6.88
GCN: 6.55
GBA: 3.60

Top 25 Software Titles

Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
2 XBX FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ
3 GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo
4 PS2 DRIV3R Atari
5 XBX SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
6 XBX CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi
7 PS2 SHREK 2 Activision
8 XBX DRIV3R Atari
9 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts
10 PS2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
11 PS2 RED DEAD REVOLVER Take 2
12 PS2 T. CLANCYS PANDORA Ubi Soft
13 PS2 FIGHT NIGHT 2004 Electronic Arts
14 PS2 NBA BALLERS Midway
15 GCN HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
16 GCN SHREK 2 Activision
17 GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG Nintendo
18 GCN SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
19 XBX HALO Microsoft
20 GBA SHREK 2 Activision
21 GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM Nintendo
22 GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY Capcom
23 GBA HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts
24 XBX RED DEAD REVOLVER Take 2
25 GBA SONIC ADVANCE 3 THQ

others:

GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $2,208,650 75,102
PS2 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $1,955,654 66,113
GBA BOMBERMAN CLASSIC $117,926 6105
GBA DONKEY KONG CLASSIC $1,072,750 55957
GBA EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC $520,327 26673
GBA ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC $141,628 7349
GBA PAC-MAN CLASSIC $411,685 21243
GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $2,144,496 110627
GBA XEVIOUS CLASSIC $75,903 3948
GBA ZELDA CLASSIC $2,000,679 102166

GCN BILLY HATCHER $105,707 5234
GCN PHANTASY STAR: CARD $142,695 3168
GCN SKIES OF ARCADIA LGND $242,333 9609
GCN SONIC ADVENTURE 2 $301,847 10076
GCN SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT $405,239 18652
GCN SONIC HEROES $882,513 17936
GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $1,083,913 56537
GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL $269,681 13613

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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #115 on: July 21, 2004, 01:42:02 PM »
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GCN MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $2,208,650 75,102
PS2 MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY $1,955,654 66,113



Man, I wonder how much better the GameCube version would've done if it wasn't the inferior "cheaply tossed together" version, with deliberately screwed-up controls.

Or if Capcom hadn't delayed the GameCube version along with the PS2 version, until they could get the PS2 version working properly.
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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #116 on: July 21, 2004, 07:20:39 PM »
Year On Year Changes

PS2: -3%
Xbox: +55%
GCN: -12%
GBA: -21%

Where's the momentum now Reggie?

Here are totals for all of Nintendo's GameCube games

Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,320,430
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,609,711
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,525,643
The Wind Waker: 1,476,718
Luigi's Mansion: 1,411,482
Metroid Prime: 1,152,510
Mario Party 4: 939,306
Star Fox Adventures: 758,419
Animal Crossing: 734,460
Mario Party 5: 704,591
Pikmin: 641,363
Pokemon Colosseum: 601,931
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 352,667
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 346,120
Wave Race: 323,409
Kirby Air Ride: 275,717
Eternal Darkness: 268,681
F-Zero GX: 225,911
Wario World: 215,259
Preview Disk: 168,784
Four Swords Adventures: 155,067
NBA Courtside 2002: 153,316
Pokemon Channel: 143,026
Magical Mirror: 107,503
Custom Robo: 96,424
1080 Avalanche: 80,992
Wario Ware Inc: 63,271

other interesting totals:

Resident Evil Zero: 410,872
Resident Evil: 463,516
Resident Evil 2: 35,176
Resident Evil 3: 47,541
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 27,889

Viewtiful Joe: 231,899

Soul Calibur (GC): 605,102
Soul Calibur (PS2): 551,708
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 389,444

TimeSplitters 2 (GC):  213,387
TimeSplitters 2 (PS2):  264,128
TimeSplitters 2 (Xbox): 213,869

Oh and might as well throw in some GBA total sales too:

SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2    $65,757,301     2,202,435
POKEMON RUBY           $64,533,322     2,048,505
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE   $60,687,759    2,024,437
POKEMON SAPPHIRE    $58,599,373     1,853,426
MARIO KART: CIRCUIT    $55,551,588     1,852,340
ZELDA: LINK TO PAST    $35,547,495    1,221,710
MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4    $35,372,014     1,200,068
YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3   $31,107,832    1,082,203
KIRBY: NIGHTMARE   $25,950,776       865,438   
METROID FUSION           $25,876,134       888,443   
MARIO & LUIGI SAGA      $23,168,495       778,449
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY    $22,989,089       808,862
GOLDEN SUN            $21,324,038       742,618   
WARIO LAND 4           $20,439,577       717,542   
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS    $18,896,872       558,707
POKEMON PINBALL: R&S    $13,251,067       432,937   
GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE    $12,417,720       418,665
ADVANCE WARS            $11,588,948       400,624
METROID ZERO MISSION    $10,046,090       343,752
GAME & WATCH GALLERY4   $9,991,228       343,876
FIRE EMBLEM            $9,853,818       312,182
F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY   $7,917,389       271,180
ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK   $7,712,016       267,481   
WARIOWARE INC: MEGA    $6,205,681       209,307   
HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK    $5,644,063       193,424   
SWORD OF MANA            $5,607,812      184,352
MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG   $4,429,355        147,910
DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST    $3,272,703       121,091
SUPER MARIO CLASSIC     $2,144,496        110,627
ZELDA CLASSIC           $2,000,679        102,166
DONKEY KONG CLASSIC     $1,072,750         55,957
MARIO GOLF ADVANCE      $1,097,012         37,531
EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC        $520,327         26,673
PAC-MAN CLASSIC           $411,685         21,243
ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC       $141,628          7,349
BOMBERMAN CLASSIC         $117,926          6,105
XEVIOUS CLASSIC            $75,903          3,948

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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #117 on: July 21, 2004, 09:10:48 PM »
ruby: Sony demands enghancements for late ports. If they released MMAC for the GC first Sony would demand additioal features in the PS2 MMAC. Okay, there ARE such features (though Sony might have decided they want them exclusive despite the port not being late...) but that difference wasn't deliberate (at least, that's the official story...)

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« Reply #118 on: July 22, 2004, 03:01:12 AM »
Damn--hats off to mario who keeps us up-to-date every month.


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« Reply #119 on: July 22, 2004, 04:01:58 AM »
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Viewtiful Joe: 231,899


That makes me want to cry. Joe deserves so much more. ED didn't do much better.
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RE:New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #120 on: July 22, 2004, 09:18:41 AM »
nooooo no no no

that can't be right

is that the total sales of all GC games overall??? that just doesn't sound plausible. Viewtiful Joe sold much much much much much better than that...i mean...

good grief, if it didn't then Iwata is dead on correct...the industry is dead and all people want to do now is shoot and maime things...

*looks at sales again...contemplates suicide...*

no! must...hold on....for RE4... where shooting and maiming is the right thing to do...
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« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2004, 09:44:03 AM »
"Man, I wonder how much better the GameCube version would've done if it wasn't the inferior 'cheaply tossed together' version, with deliberately screwed-up controls."

It probably wouldn't make much of a difference since most people who bought it probably didn't know the controls were goofed.  Still I'm quite surprised the Cube version sold better considering it's not only the inferior version but the PS2 userbase is just so much bigger.

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« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2004, 09:57:40 AM »
'good grief, if it didn't then Iwata is dead on correct...the industry is dead and all people want to do now is shoot and maime things..."

Yeah just look at the top ten for the month

1 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
2 XBX FULL SPECTRUM WARRIOR THQ
3 GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS Nintendo
4 PS2 DRIV3R Atari
5 XBX SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 Activision
6 XBX CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK Vivendi
7 PS2 SHREK 2 Activision
8 XBX DRIV3R Atari
9 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2004 Electronic Arts
10 PS2 HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN Electronic Arts

We've got 5 movie games and one sports game so right there 60% of the top ten are generic licenced titles.  Of the four non-licenced titles two of them are Driv3r which completely sucks.  So we're left with two titles that are actually good and Full Spectrum Warrior is a generic war game that focuses on realism over creativity. So out of the top ten only ONE of those titles is one with any sort of originality or innovation and it's a Zelda game and thus probably sold more because of it's name than the innovation found within (and Four Swords is quite innovative).  Yeah I'd say it's fair to think the industry is dying.

Though in Japan Zelda is the only one of these titles that would even have a shot at making the top ten so things aren't totally hopeless.  If generic America product keeps dominating it might bring more Japanese third parties to Nintendo's side since that's really the only place where they don't have to compete with casual gamers in the North American market.  As long as Nintendo can tough it out and survive for the next few years we may see a complete split where hardcore gamers play Nintendo almost exclusively while all the casuals play Sony and MS.  There's enough creative developers out there that if they all teamed up to support one console they could survive.

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RE: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread
« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2004, 01:24:33 PM »
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« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2004, 03:15:32 PM »
MVP baseball is a freaking awesome game. It is one the best games I have ever played.

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