Post by: capamerica on March 19, 2007, 02:10:30 PM
Just a short while ago, Capcom confirmed that Devil May Cry 4 will not be a PS3 exclusive.
"Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible, and has been building its technology base to meet that goal," said Mark Beaumont, executive vice president, officer and head of Capcom consumer software publishing in the Americas and Europe. "This announcement means that PS3, Xbox 360 and PC owners worldwide will be able to experience the latest installment of one of Capcom's pillar franchises."
http://ir.capcom.co.jp/english/news/html/e070320.html
Post by: darknight06 on March 19, 2007, 03:10:33 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 19, 2007, 03:18:42 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 19, 2007, 03:58:46 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 19, 2007, 04:01:38 PM
Really dude you should just become an analyst, or at the very least, a fortune teller.
Post by: Kairon on March 19, 2007, 04:48:30 PM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 19, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 19, 2007, 07:29:41 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 20, 2007, 02:08:02 AM
When Namco said they have to sell at least 500,000 copies of a game on the PS3 to at least break even (or to make at least a profit) they basically said that the PS3 isn't the place for new or experimental or risky games.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 20, 2007, 05:06:44 AM
Post by: Ceric on March 20, 2007, 06:05:07 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 20, 2007, 06:34:49 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Cap you should remind us of whatelse you may have "called over a year ago" just so we know exactly when it was "called" and look to see who else may have "called" it too. Lots of links please
I know there is recorded evidence of Cap's prediction from a year ago. Also, I do remember a thread where the possibility of DMC 4 on the 360 was mentioned.
Post by: TrueNerd on March 20, 2007, 06:34:53 AM
"And another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust!"
LOL Sony, LOL.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2007, 06:46:25 AM
Microsoft says: One down two to go
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Boris Schneider-Johne, Xbox Product Manager of Microsoft Germany, today hints at his blog, called dreisechtig.net (German for threesixty), that Devil May Cry 4 may only be the first of three exclusive PS3-games coming also to Xbox 360.
On his blog, he posted the following phrase:
"One down, two to go"
Followed by the names of three games: Devil May Cry (striked), Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid.
But he also does some damage control shortly afterwards...
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"Yes, this is just a personal checklist of franchises that I and plenty of others would like to see on Xbox 360. In no way, shape or form is that an announcement list, an internal Microsoft shopping list, a “I know more than you do” list or something like that."
But I think we all know that it really is... a shopping list that is.
Post by: Adrock on March 20, 2007, 08:10:06 AM
I don't see FFXIII going anywhere. MGS4 might, but even that might remain exclusive. Regardless, Sony is still doing better than Nintendo did with N64. They're losing exclusivity, but their still getting those games. And I think it'd be worse if Sony lost exclusivity to Nintendo more than MS. Right now, Nintendo is raping the Japanese market and catching up to 360 steadily in the US (not sure about Europe). Nintendo has done all that without many big third party titles. If Nintendo got the big multiplatform games too, everyone would be in trouble.
Post by: Arbok on March 20, 2007, 08:49:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Adrock
Regardless, Sony is still doing better than Nintendo did with N64. They're losing exclusivity, but their still getting those games.
In terms of third parties, yes... but the N64 was great (well, in some respects) because of Nintendo's own titles. Titles which were exclusive. Having games on the system go multi-platform isn't crushing to a console as long as they have other exclusives to fall back, stuff that you can't get else where. Something that the PS3 looks to be in dire need of this generation.
Post by: Luigi Dude on March 20, 2007, 11:24:38 AM
As you can see even if DMC 4 would have stayed exclusive it wouldn't have done much for the PS3 anyway.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 20, 2007, 02:42:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
Even though it's bad for Sony when they keep losing exclusives, I dont see why everyone keeps acting like losing DMC is a big deal. The best selling DMC game was the first one with 2.77 million copies worldwide. Then the series went downhill with DMC 2 selling 1.69 million copies and DMC 3 1.62 million copies.
As you can see even if DMC 4 would have stayed exclusive it wouldn't have done much for the PS3 anyway.
You may be right about the sales, but the series is good for image and that is what matters the most. Even Sony was touting DMC4 through its non-gameplay trailers, and was trying to center alot of attention on it. That in itself shows that the series was important to Sony.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 20, 2007, 03:05:24 PM
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Post by: Amodaus1 on March 20, 2007, 04:43:04 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
I sorta loved-liked DMC. I didn't like DMC 2 because it was lesser quality. I absolutely hate DMC 3 because they tried to hard to make the game cool and hip they made it stupid. I mean all the acrobatic stunts and stuff just looked stoopid to me. The story was stupid and for a prequel it really didn't make much sense to me. In fact it felt like there was a story between DMC3 and DMC that has yet to be told. Lady was stoopid.
DMC always sucked in story. It was never about the story. DMC 3 was, in my opinion, the best action game of this last generation because the gameplay was flawless, and amazing deep, for a non-fighting game. Each of the 4 main styles provided a different aspect of gameplay, royal gaurd for just-frame fun, and gunslinger for silly sniper shotgun combos, i never liked trickster because ninga gaiden did running on walls better, but teleporting made dodging fun, and swordmaster is self-explaintory, with quicksilver and dopple being there for fun.
I doesn't matter that DMC doesn't put up GTA like numbers, its a good game. It's also a challenging game, something we don't get much of any more. Many people tout ninja gaiden as hard, and while ninja gaiden is hard, and i give temco credit for changing enemies to ones you've never seen before in harder modes, and bosses spawn enemies in harder modes and have new attacks, I felt DMC 3 was more difficult, less focused on defensive play (like NG) and more about aggressive and creative combo-ing, and if you WANTED to be defensive, DMC gave you the option of trickster or royal gaurd. I felt temco force fed defensive play down your throat in ninga gaiden, always waiting for openings, especially on doku with stupid cats and gaints is terribly annoying.
Back to the point, DMC is a good game, and i'm glad its going to more consoles, more people should play it. It's also a game that doesn't need HI DEF graphics, it ran fine on the ps2, it'd be nice to see a wii version, but i doubt the wii remote would be a good idea for DMC's type of gameplay.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 20, 2007, 06:56:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
The N64 sold really well at first. A lot better than the PS3 is.
Not to mention that N64 was quickly making profits off it shortly after release.
Post by: wandering on March 20, 2007, 07:35:46 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
So then let the era of cookie cutter sequels and big budget games commence!
It already did, when Twilight Princess came out.
*ducks*
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2007, 07:54:40 PM
**then goes for a field goal kick instead*
And I'm not even defending Twilight Princess, the game can defend itself.
I just couldn't resist polishing my shoe on Wandering chin
Post by: Ian Sane on March 22, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
While Sony's downfall is beneficial to Nintendo I don't think constantly missing out on these big titles is going to be very helpful. This is WAY too similar to when tons of games were appearing on the Playstation and Saturn but not the N64. Sega was getting killed but Nintendo wans't benefiting. Because of a huge hardware difference Nintendo was the odd man out. If the PS3 gets killed off is it really helpful for the Wii if the Xbox 360 just picks up the slack? Thankfully the Wii is ensured victory in Japan but with the non-gamer emphasis over there and all these Japanese third parties putting major titles on the X360 is that going to matter? The logical assumption is winning in Japan would attract the best third party support from Japanese third parties but so far I don't see it happening. The Wii isn't getting the "A" material from Japanese third party devs. They might not give a damn about Japanese sales if they can sell better in North America backing a North American console.
Post by: Kairon on March 22, 2007, 12:00:26 PM
It's the new projects that don't already have their engines built where the Wii should expect to pick up support, not in games which have already poured millions into HD graphics.
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Post by: Athrun Zala on March 24, 2007, 11:41:41 AM
Quotelol, I agree
Originally posted by: wanderingQuote
Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
So then let the era of cookie cutter sequels and big budget games commence!
It already did, when Twilight Princess came out.
*ducks*
*doesn't duck, takes it like a man*
regarding the topic, I sincerely hope that the PC isn't as crappy as the Oni3, DMC3 and RE4 ports were.....
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2007, 01:20:49 PM
Post by: Kairon on March 24, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
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Post by: Ceric on March 24, 2007, 02:16:48 PM
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Post by: couchmonkey on March 26, 2007, 07:11:42 AM
The whole PS3 to Xbox 360 ports thing...it's the way of the future. It just doesn't make sense to make an exclusive game for those consoles - they cost an arm and a leg to develop for and porting from one to the other is much easier than porting from those systems to Wii.
Now I already know Ian's argument on that..."Well that's pretty dumb of Nintendo, now we're all f*cked because the Wii is crippled." The thing is, if Wii was another $500 uber-system, nobody would be buying it. The fact that Wii is outselling the other two systems by leaps and bounds is the only reason that third party support is better than it was on Cube.
So no, we aren't going to get a lot of PS3 and Xbox 360 games. That's unfortunate, in a way, but on the other hand I see no reason to believe that we would be getting better-than-GameCube third-party support if Nintendo had made another console like the 360 and PS3. Ian's typical argument that Nintendo needs to just not screw up doesn't hold any water here, because 360 is selling about the same or worse than the original Xbox, even though it clearly has a superior game lineup to the other two systems. You could argue that the system's poor reliability is a screw-up, and you'd be right, but I believe that $400-$600 systems are the real screw up.
Post by: Ceric on March 26, 2007, 07:20:51 AM
Post by: Kairon on March 26, 2007, 07:28:04 AM
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 26, 2007, 07:42:51 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on March 26, 2007, 08:05:27 AM
I think it's possible to sell a lot more systems at $400 than Microsoft has, but I think the console needs more big-name games...the biggest games for the system are all brand-new IPs that many gamers know nothing about: Gears of War, Dead Rising, Lost Planet. They are supposed to be good, but how does Joe Casual know that?
If the system had names like Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto etc., I think it would be selling better. It'll get some of those eventually, but right now I think it's hard for a lot of uninformed consumers to drop $400. I'm a little surprised they aren't out there picking up the $300 unit, but maybe the importance of the harddrive is more widely known than I assume.
Post by: Adrock on March 26, 2007, 09:05:50 AM
I find it funny that these PS3 fans are petitioning to boycott Capcom games... you know, because poor sales of Devil May Cry 4 on PS3 will surely encourage Capcom to devote more resources toward PS2 development.
And I think the whole PS3/360 port thing could potentially be very good for Nintendo. They might not get the ports, but they have an opportunity here to score some exclusives. Wii seems to be more popular by the day and development costs are a fraction of what they are on competing platforms. Nintendo couldn't ask to be in a better position. The question is: can they capitalize? They really need to start making deals and forging alliances with 3rd parties.
Post by: Ceric on March 26, 2007, 09:09:18 AM
Post by: Arbok on March 26, 2007, 12:39:24 PM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Sony fanboys start petition to boycott Capcom.
Payback's a bitch…
Post by: Ceric on March 26, 2007, 01:49:02 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 26, 2007, 06:40:28 PM
Last I checked it got that pricedrop. The 360 Premium costs 300€ now, down from 400.
Fanboys who complain about lost exclusivity are consumer whores if you look at it objectively. They've completely sold out, they prioritize someone else's best interest over their own. As an end user I appreciate multiplatform games. If e.g. Killer 7 hadn't been ported to the PS2 I wouldn't have gotten it because I bought an old, discounted copy of it for the PS2 when the GC version was out of print and stock for a loooong time already. Or Psychonauts, if that was an XBox exclusive I wouldn't have played it.
