Author Topic: The 2015 E3 Wii U games recap thread! (Release Dates Announced) (Read 25535 times)

Soren · « **on:** June 01, 2015, 11:43:12 AM »

So, I did this little games recap thread for E3 last year and you guys seemed to like it enough that I thought why not give it a shot again this year. With the Nintendo Direct Micro coming out today I thought it was a good time to get ready and start recapping some of the things that come out pre, during and post-E3. I'll try and tag as many trailers, streams and such as they appear.

Note: so far I'm only including games that have been confirmed to be at E3 or announced during the Nintendo Direct Micro and the lead up to E3.

Treehouse Day 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arFsxZ8QWPM
Treehouse Day 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncxTFIEr7GI
Treehouse Day 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXFeuxiL1F0

2015
LEGO Jurassic World - Out Now! (Launch Trailer) (Trailer)
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS DLC (Lucas/Roy/Ryu/stages, outfits) - Out Now! (Announcement Video) (Treehouse Segment)
Art Academy Home Studio - June 25
Disney Infinity 3.0 Edition - August 30
Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water - October 22 (Digital Only) (E3 Trailer)(Treehouse Segment)
Super Mario Maker - September 11 (Wii U bundle with game and Amiibo also releasing that day) (NWC footage) (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment) (Treehouse Part 2) (Treehouse Part 3) (Treehouse Part 4) (Treehouse Part 5)
Skylanders Supercharged (+ Wii version) - September 20 (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment) (Treehouse Part 2)
Lego Dimensions - September 27
Yoshi's Woolly World - October 16 (NWC pre-show footage) (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment) (Treehouse Part 2)
Rodea the Sky Soldier (+ Wii version) - November 10
Guitar Hero Live - October 20
Just Dance 2016 (+ Wii version) - October 20
Xenoblade Chronicles X - December 4 (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment) (Treehouse Part 2)
Star Fox Zero (co-developed by Platinum Games) - November 20 (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment) (Treehouse Part 2) (Treehouse Part 3) (Treehouse Part 4)
Devil's Third - December 11 (NCL Video)
Mario Tennis Ultra Smash - Holiday (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment)
Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival - Holiday (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment)
Harvest Moon: Seeds of Memories - "Winter"
LEGO Marvel's Avengers - Winter

2016
Genei Ibun Roku #FE (SMTxFE) (E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment)
Mario and Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games -(E3 Trailer)
Project Guard (co-developed by Platinum Games)

2015?2016?Ever?
Project Cars - "We're waiting for NX details because the game runs like crap on Wii U right now."

M.I.A
Project Treasure (Direct Micro Trailer)
Project Giant Robot
Pokken Fighters
Anything from Retro
Your hopes and dreams

eShop
Adventures of Pip - Out Now! (Launch Trailer) (Trailer)
Mutant Mudds Super Deluxe Challenge - Summer (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment)
Affordable Space Adventures Free DLC (5 "extremely difficult" levels) - Summer
Freedom Planet - August 3 (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
Mighty No. 9 - September 15
forma.8 - Fall(Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
RIVE - November (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
Lovely Planet - December (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
Soul Axiom - December (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
Runbow - Q3 2015 (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer) (Treehouse Segment)
Typoman - Q3 2015(Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
Extreme Exorcism - Q3 2015 (Nindies @ Home E3 Trailer)
FAST Racing Neo - Q4 2015 (Trailer) (Treehouse Segment)
Steamworld Heist - 2015 (E3 Trailer)
Xeodrifter
Shantae: Half-Genie Hero - (E3 Trailer)
Assault Android Cactus - "Coming Soon" (Trailer)
Yooka-Laylee - October 2016

Virtual Console
Earthbound Beginnings (aka Mother, aka Earthbound Zero) - Out Now! (Trailer) (Mr. Itoi's message)
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - June 18
Star Fox Command - June 25
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time - June 25

amiibo - (Treehouse Segment)
Pixel Mario Series (classic and modern colors)
Animal Crossing Series (cards and figures)
Super Smash Bros. wave whatever
Yarn Yoshi
Chibi Robo

"Not being shown at E3"
Zelda Wii U
NX, QoL, Smartphone games

Feel free to help out if you catch something I haven't seen.

Evan_B · « **Reply #1 on:** June 01, 2015, 01:03:25 PM »

This makes me worry that Mario Maker and Star Fox are the games Nintendo is expecting me to get excited about this year, when I find Mario Maker only slightly interesting and couldn't give to fucks about Star Fox.

The release dates for XCX and Devil's Third are most likely shoe-ins for E3 this year, but that doesn't exactly inspire much hope for the show.

Shaymin · « **Reply #2 on:** June 01, 2015, 08:08:48 PM »

Project Treasure's release date is basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ since it's free to start.

Mario Maker is confirmed for September.

Rodea the Sky Soldier (Wii U + Wii) is also September.

Evan_B · « **Reply #3 on:** June 01, 2015, 08:55:39 PM »

Are you sure it's free to start? I thought it was maybe free to play...

I wonder how they're going to try to screw me out of my money with that one...

Soren · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2015, 10:59:21 AM »

Updated to include titles we know exist and will be likely shown at E3.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2015, 12:34:19 AM »

Just get me GBA games on the New 3DS eShop and the rest is gravy

Zvarri! · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2015, 12:53:18 AM »

SMTxFE has a Winter 2015 release date for Japan. No word about the west yet.

Evan_B · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2015, 01:13:44 AM »

Upon reflection, I'd rather Nintendo not blow my socks off at E3, as my backlog needs to get cleared out and more things I want will not help that. I'm already dreading Xenoblade Chronicles X.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2015, 10:59:09 PM »

Since you went retail only I'll tackle some eShop titles:

Fast Racing Neo
90's Arcade Racer
Mighty No 9 (sept 15th)
Runbow
Don't Starve
HYPER LIGHT DRIFTER
Knite and the Ghost Light
Hive J.U.M.P

Evan_B · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2015, 11:37:40 PM »

Runbow is one of those games that sounds neat and fun but only if you have enough players.

I'm pretty excited for Hive Jump and Hyper Light Drifter though.

Soren · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2015, 12:18:22 AM »

I'll cover the eShop games once the inevitable sizzle reel comes out. Then we'll at least have release dates (or windows). But I am expecting most of those games to be there.

Soren · « **Reply #11 on:** June 05, 2015, 10:18:20 AM »

Updated with Smash Bros DLC goodness.

Evan_B · « **Reply #12 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:54:22 AM »

This likely means they'll have some info on the next Smash character, as well.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2015, 09:02:01 PM »

Quote from: Evan_B on June 05, 2015, 11:54:22 AM

This likely means they'll have some info on the next Smash character, as well.

Inkling girl/boy (not mii) I feel is a lock

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »

Roy and Ryu are already confirmed to be in the game so unless Sakurai has intentionally removed them because he was angry at the data hack, both characters should be a lock to be officially revealed at E3. Especially Ryu since a third party character reveal is always a big deal and 3 out of the 4 third party Smash characters were all revealed at E3. Roy should also be there since the new Fire Emblem is being released on June 25th in Japan, the week after E3 so his reveal is quite fitting.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Wolf is revealed after Star Fox Wii U is finally shown as well for obvious reasons.

Evan_B · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:31:02 PM »

I really don't care if Roy is in or not, but a Wolf was a completely original fighter and it would be a shame not to see him back. The easiest reveals and releases are obviously going tone the fighters they already have data for.

As for Ryu, I would be very pleased to see his inclusion, I think he would be a suitable candidate for a fighting game. I am not too keen on Inklings, though. They're not all-stars just yet.

Soren · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:40:55 PM »

Quote from: Luigi Dude on June 05, 2015, 11:11:31 PM

I also wouldn't be surprised if Wolf is revealed after Star Fox Wii U is finally shown as well for obvious reasons.

That spot is reserved for amiibo.

UncleBob · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:42:58 PM »

No love for what will likely be the last Wii release? I suspect Skylanders Superchargers will have a fairly large E3 presence this year.

Evan_B · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2015, 12:04:56 AM »

When does it launch? After Rodea? Because Rodea has a Wii version. I know, it's packaged with the Wii U version but it's still a completely unique entry.

Mop it up · « **Reply #19 on:** June 07, 2015, 01:23:32 PM »

When it's put into a list like this, it seems like a decent amount.

Soren · « **Reply #20 on:** June 10, 2015, 10:30:43 AM »

Updated with a few more titles including Free DLC for Affordable Space Adventures. Yay!

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 10, 2015, 07:35:06 PM »

So hyped for Mario Maker!

*makes a stage filled with spike pits, Hammer Bros. stacks, Lakitus, and flying Cheep-Cheeps*

Let the Kaizo Mario stages begin!

Soren · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2015, 01:23:28 PM »

Updated with some trailers and extra info. Things are starting to take shape...

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2015, 02:30:56 PM »

Assault Android Cactus:

http://www.assaultandroidcactus.com/p/landing.html

Soren · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2015, 11:34:11 PM »

Updated with:

Yoshi Woolly World gameplay from the World Championship pre-show
Earthbound Beginnings trailer and special message from Mr. Itoi.
More videos!

Soren · « **Reply #25 on:** June 15, 2015, 10:33:43 AM »

Updated with

FAST Racing Neo footage
Nindies @ Home demo games.

Evan_B · « **Reply #26 on:** June 15, 2015, 11:40:13 AM »

You know, I'm getting the feeling that Nintendo may not have a lot NEW to show off this year at E3, but they might still put on a great show just because of the massive amount of content they're putting out there.

Shorty McNostril · « **Reply #27 on:** June 15, 2015, 02:06:14 PM »

OK, so while not really Nintendo, something worried me from the MS conference. One of the new IPs they showed boasted "From the Makers of Metroid Prime". Have some of the Retro team left?

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #28 on:** June 15, 2015, 02:15:52 PM »

That's Armature, founded by former Retro guys, but they left years ago, after (or maybe slightly before) Prime 3.

Shaymin · « **Reply #29 on:** June 15, 2015, 02:16:13 PM »

The chief guys behind Metroid Prime left after 3 and formed Armature Studios (Batman Blackgate, Bloodstained Wii U).

Soren · « **Reply #30 on:** June 15, 2015, 02:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Evan_B on June 15, 2015, 11:40:13 AM

You know, I'm getting the feeling that Nintendo may not have a lot NEW to show off this year at E3, but they might still put on a great show just because of the massive amount of content they're putting out there.

Nintendo dropped a metric ton of eShop trailers before the Digital Event last year as well. This is par for the course so far.

Updated to include individual trailers for all the Nindies @ Home games. But what are you waiting for? Go play them instead!

Evan_B · « **Reply #31 on:** June 15, 2015, 02:33:10 PM »

What am I waiting for? The painfully slow servers to ease up so I can actually download these things.

Phil · « **Reply #32 on:** June 15, 2015, 02:33:55 PM »

Tried out Freedom Planet. My older brother was singing its praises, and it seems to be for good reason. Really enjoyed what I played from the demo. Reminds me a lot of Sonic, which the game is based off of, so that's good!

MagicCow64 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 15, 2015, 05:31:07 PM »

Hours of Fun, coming our way via BlockForm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohAS43vAL8s

Shaymin · « **Reply #34 on:** June 15, 2015, 05:41:47 PM »

In the interest of fairness, I'll hold back my Maze comparisons.

MagicCow64 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 16, 2015, 12:15:18 PM »

Well this isn't going well so far.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #36 on:** June 16, 2015, 12:54:30 PM »

Some good 3DS news but the WII stuff was pretty brutal. Animal Crossing and Mario Tennis were the two new wii U titles. Xenoblade gets a date (Dec 4th) but there's very little to get excited for next year other than Zelda.

Soren · « **Reply #37 on:** June 16, 2015, 12:55:21 PM »

I'm updating with games and trailers. This probably shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.

Dasmos · « **Reply #38 on:** June 16, 2015, 12:58:30 PM »

Nintendo really needed to pull a Sony and show some games that aren't going to be released for a while, but are a reason for people to get excited. Not much to get excited about from the Digital Event.

Evan_B · « **Reply #39 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:05:24 PM »

Yeah, the digital event sucked. I was hoping Nintendo would be immediately releasing some interesting games. But a lot of this was transformations on things that I never wanted to change.

Shorty McNostril · « **Reply #40 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:06:14 PM »

I got up at 2am to watch this. I should know better by now. I just have this tiny hope that they will surprise me. Burned yet again

broodwars · « **Reply #41 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:06:30 PM »

I was drawn away to do some work after the Direct started so I'll have to endure it later, but from everything I saw on Twitter this conference looked like a near-total fail. I had so much hope after Microsoft & Sony brought it this year.

Soren · « **Reply #42 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:10:39 PM »

Stuff not mentioned on the direct

SMTxFE is officially 2016
Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water is slated for fall
Skylanders Supercharged is Sept. 20.

broodwars · « **Reply #43 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:12:26 PM »

Quote from: Soren on June 16, 2015, 01:10:39 PM

Stuff not mentioned on the direct

Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water is slated for fall

Excellent. No one was talking about it on Twitter, so I was concerned it wasn't the Halloween game it obviously would excel at.

azeke · « **Reply #44 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:13:57 PM »

Starfox is made by PLATINUM GAAMES!!!!

Evan_B · « **Reply #45 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:17:24 PM »

Who cares?

It looks visually stale and not fun at all to play. So much for a bomb.

It's like Nintendo thought hyping current games would be a good way to trump the lateness of the Sony/Microsoft conferences. But it doesn't really work when all of your games look like bad ideas.

Adrock · « **Reply #46 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:27:41 PM »

Yikes. The Digital Event was pretty mediocre. Star Fox and Xenoblade Chronicles X look good, and Paper Mario and Luigi (forgot what it's actually called) was my favorite new game showed. I guess the writing is on the wall. Nintendo admitted to focusing on games that will be released this year and early 2016 which isn't that much. It comes off as "We have some great games in the works, but they've all been delayed to NX so here's Metroid without Samus."

Sony dropped bigger announcements. My problem with is that most of them are so far away, they barely matter. Sony has given me no reason to buy a PS4 in 2015.

I probably would have cared more about Microsoft's showing if I liked Rare's games more. Backwards compatibility is nice to have, but too late to matter at this point. Maybe it's trying to help 360 owners transition easier.

MagicCow64 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:31:05 PM »

Man, at a certain point, it just got so bad it's funny. I was pretty sure they'd have something up their sleeves after moving the Smash presentation to a separate slot and announcing 3DS stuff early. But that was pretty shitty from top to bottom. I mean, Star Fox will probably be good, but that footage looked super rough/budget. Animal Crossing Party Pets is so wrong-headed I actually cracked up. And another five minute chunk about Wooly World! Not even a follow-up Smash bomb!

Well, I've said it before, this showing was going to demonstrate whether they had pulled the plug on most WiiU projects a year and a half ago.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #48 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:33:54 PM »

Think Platinum Games has two many projects going on at once IMO so the quality of their games will likely be lower than what most people are comfortable with. They are making Transformers, Starfox, Scalebound, Neir 2, and one undisclosed game.

Work is work so they are grabbing any projects that are thrown their way but I think the outcome is written on the wall.

Soren · « **Reply #49 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:35:30 PM »

The Star Fox footage did not look good. It felt very rough.

Oedo · « **Reply #50 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:41:32 PM »

Underwhelming is truly the best word for that presentation. I'm super excited about a lot of the stuff that was in that presentation, but I was super excited for all that stuff months ago. Everything new that we saw can best be described as "neat." That's not the reaction you should be gunning for at E3.

Evan_B · « **Reply #51 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:44:31 PM »

What a depressing E3.

Adrock · « **Reply #52 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:49:17 PM »

The footage looked pretty good to me, but I'm not a big Star Fox fan so what am I missing? I didn't think the graphics were anything to write home about which is weird considering how good Bayonetta 2 looked.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #53 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:50:04 PM »

Quote from: Soren on June 16, 2015, 01:35:30 PM

The Star Fox footage did not look good. It felt very rough.

That's because the footage is from an incomplete version from a few months ago when they created the demo. We go over this every E3, unlike the rest of the industry that likes to trick gamers with blantant bullshit demo's running on PC's so the demo's look better then the final version, Nintendo actually has no problem showing what the games look like in their actual unfinished state.

The final version of Star Fox is going to look much better then what is being shown here like every other Nintendo game ever shown looks much better then their original E3 unveiling.

Evan_B · « **Reply #54 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:02:16 PM »

You know, as much as I'd like to believe you, I really, really, really doubt that.

stevey · « **Reply #55 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:10:56 PM »

Most people are overreacting and are way too paranoid of the NX. Nintendo showed some great stuff recently but just not at E3. Instead they focused on minor stuff, that in previous years they would put on their press site without mention, to increase the hype on them because the bigger games can hype themselves in directs.

Soren · « **Reply #56 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:12:00 PM »

There has to be something else...there just has to.

Updated with pretty much all the videos shown so far.

Evan_B · « **Reply #57 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:17:44 PM »

You know, as much as I'd like to believe you, I really, really, really doubt it.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #58 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:24:06 PM »

Welp, not the best main event. Needed fatal frame and devils third in there.

azeke · « **Reply #59 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:25:36 PM »

You know, as much as I'd like to believe you, I really, really, really doubt it.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #60 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:27:36 PM »

Quote from: Evan_B on June 16, 2015, 02:02:16 PM

You know, as much as I'd like to believe you, I really, really, really doubt that.

Yes this game is going to be the first game in Nintendo's entire history they don't bother to upgrade graphically after it's first reveal. Hell, they aren't even going to bothering finishing the game. The final version is just going to be the exact demo from E3 charged at full price because reasons.

Yep, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Evan_B · « **Reply #61 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:31:33 PM »

They seem to have at least nailed down a (quite sterile) art style. While graphics might get some polish, they're not going to significantly change.

Can you please offer me some examples of games that have improved graphically? I can only think of examples with minor improvements.

Soren · « **Reply #62 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:33:03 PM »

Update:

Platinum is co-developing Project Guard and turning it into a full game per Euorgamer. Post Spring 2016 game.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #63 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:34:32 PM »

I don't know if it was "Hype fatigue" from Sony's gigaton announcements And the fact that Shenmue 3 is a real thing but the Digital Event was blah at best for me. Maybe, just maybe there is something else but man...this was most harsh.

azeke · « **Reply #64 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:34:37 PM »

Platinum stahp

don't stop, never stop

Evan_B · « **Reply #65 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:39:04 PM »

Quote from: Soren on June 16, 2015, 02:33:03 PM

Update:

Platinum is co-developing Project Guard and turning it into a full game per Euorgamer. Post Spring 2016 game.

Project guard? As in, the game where you look at surveillance cameras?

Sounds right up their alley.

azeke · « **Reply #66 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:42:27 PM »

It seems like Platinum is just being used as an outsourced art/programming ~~slave~~workforce while actual design is still done by EAD.

That's disappointing. Similarly how Monolithsoft is used as codemonkeys all over in recent Nintendo projects.

Soren · « **Reply #67 on:** June 16, 2015, 02:52:29 PM »

Surprise! Star Fox has no online multiplayer.

Adrock · « **Reply #68 on:** June 16, 2015, 03:03:44 PM »

And Star Fox Zero is Nintendo's big holiday 2015 title. At least it's going all out...

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #69 on:** June 16, 2015, 03:03:54 PM »

From a gameplay perspective it looked exactly like a Star Fox game should, so I'm excited.

Evan_B · « **Reply #70 on:** June 16, 2015, 03:10:20 PM »

So a less interesting version of Sin and Punishment with space animals?

broodwars · « **Reply #71 on:** June 16, 2015, 03:20:32 PM »

Just finished watching the Direct and...meh? Mario Maker showed strong, Star Fox appeals to my Robotech-based love of transformable fighter craft, Yoshi's Woolly World still looks amazing, and the Fire Emblem games continue to look really promising. Unfortunately, that's about 10 minutes of a 40+ minute Direct, and the rest was a total snore if not outright betrayal (Metroid Prime Federation Force).

I've seen worse Nintendo conferences, but there was just very little in this Direct to excite me. I'm not going to hate on it like a lot of people have, but at the same time Sony & Microsoft set the bar SO HIGH yesterday that it was disappointing to see Nintendo not really show up.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #72 on:** June 16, 2015, 03:23:31 PM »

You know at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark when they open the ark and at first there is nothing in it and everyone is in shock? Toht starts laughing even though his mission has obviously failed. That's me with Nintendo. The diehard Nintendo fan is Belloq looking utterly crushed and I'm the jaded fan in the background laughing hysterically. I don't know why. I remember feeling very isolated during the Wii years where I thought everything was the shits and yet everyone else acted like everything was awesome. So maybe I feel some comfort when Nintendo's boobery upsets everyone else. I'm strangely delighted in their asshatery because at least I can connect with the rest of the fanbase again.

The year isn't hopeless (I does have Xenoblade) but the best stuff was already revealed. The new stuff comes across mostly as quirky and I'm very sick of Nintendo making quirky stuff. I want epic and ambitious, not quirky. I think the Wii U is very obviously being phased out and Nintendo is trying in vain to make us not notice. The new Wii U stuff is less ambitious on purpose because there is no point right now in dedicating a big multi-year project for that console. Something smaller like Star Fox and Mario Tennis can be done in a shorter timeframe (ie: before the NX launch).

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #73 on:** June 16, 2015, 04:38:30 PM »

Dont get me wrong, StarFox Zero looks fun and Xenoblade will still rock but for fuckerys sake you pushed back Zelda and gave me Blast Ball! What madness%$#!

TOPHATANT123 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 16, 2015, 04:49:17 PM »

Platinum put other developers to shame with the amount of projects they are working on at once. So if they are making project guard what happened to project giant robot? Isn't it supposed to be out Q2 this year?

Mop it up · « **Reply #75 on:** June 16, 2015, 04:49:26 PM »

The way they handled this E3 this year was not so good, particularly compared to how Sony and MS performed. But oh well, I don't personally care, as the overall release schedule is looking pretty good to me.

Evan_B · « **Reply #76 on:** June 16, 2015, 08:47:46 PM »

I'm so thrilled I can finally relate to Ian Sane.

In all seriousness, I wanted a few simple things- a release date for Xenoblade, the rumored Paper Mario Wii U, a decent premeire or two, and the feeling that I would be set for the rest of the year. And I really felt dissatisfied by this even with low expectations. Federation Force barely looks like a Metroid game, so you don't have to call it that. Triforce Heroes looks inventive but I have to rely on an online community to get my full enjoyment. Mario and Luigi is NOT a proper Paper Mario, who seems to be playing a supporting role and that's just annoying as a longtime fan. Xenoblade is... so... far... away.

I mean, where were Devil's Third and Fatal Frame, two games that are outside of Nintendo's usu comfort some of color and cuteness? Why did we get another unbearably long talk about Wooly World? They might as well have talked about Splatoon's updates, or even bundled in the Smash announcements to save this one.

I mean, I think Federation Force and Triforce Heroes are both neat ideas and novel, but they aren't what I needed from my systems this year. I'll be sticking with indie and Kickstarted games this holiday season, at least outside of Mario Maker (which seems fun but I'm struggling to justify a purchase) and Xenoblade. I was hoping for something new that would appeal to ME. Maybe that sounds selfish, but I seem to be in the majority of people who feel the same way. But I have been vocal about not giving two shits about Star Fox and this year'a showing certainly didn't sway me on the new entry.

Also, **** Yokai Watch.

Shaymin · « **Reply #77 on:** June 16, 2015, 09:23:39 PM »

The reaction of the Metroid fans in the crowd means I'll be preordering Federation Force in the morning, since it'll be the first good Metroid game since... hang on...

broodwars · « **Reply #78 on:** June 16, 2015, 09:35:24 PM »

Quote from: Shaymin on June 16, 2015, 09:23:39 PM

The reaction of the Metroid fans in the crowd means I'll be preordering Federation Force in the morning, since it'll be the first good Metroid game since... hang on...

Adrock · « **Reply #79 on:** June 16, 2015, 09:57:49 PM »

In all fairness, Metroid Prime: Federation Force doesn't look bad. Nintendo just hasn't really sold me on this needing the Metroid name for any reason but marketing. It's such an odd choice too because the last Prime game came out in 2007 (not counting Trilogy) so I don't know how much it benefits from using the Prime name. I suppose any marketing strength is better than starting from scratch, but it also locks the developer into adhering to the series. Then again, the super deformed art style doesn't adhere to Metroid Prime's aesthetic so it's like the developer decided "**** it" and did what it wanted anyway. All in all, I don't really get why this is a Metroid game. Setting this in the Prime universe would have made more sense if this game was announced alongside a proper Prime 4. I probably would have been more receptive if Federation Force was a new IP because my first thought was "Why is this a Metroid game?"

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #80 on:** June 16, 2015, 09:58:55 PM »

Federation Force looks terrible. It could be fun, but why did they have to make a Metroid game for babies? It's hard to believe that a first party (or whatever Retro is) is putting out a game like that, when Capcom makes stuff like Resident Evil Revelaitons.

That trailer has more than 10:1 negative votes on YouTube.

Adrock · « **Reply #81 on:** June 16, 2015, 10:12:49 PM »

The art style is awful, but the game looks fun. If Nintendo didn't slap the Metroid name on it, I think people would be more accepting of the game. The trailer on Nintendo's YouTube channel is getting downvoted for being a fake Metroid game. The first Metroid branded game in nearly five years and Nintendo thinks people don't want to see Samus in a solo exploration adventure? How does anyone come to that conclusion?

ShyGuy · « **Reply #82 on:** June 16, 2015, 10:21:09 PM »

Project STEAM: Federation Force

nickmitch · « **Reply #83 on:** June 16, 2015, 10:31:54 PM »

Yeah, I dunno. I was excited about some stuff, but I was always waiting on that one big thing to really get me hyped.

Oh well.

Phil · « **Reply #84 on:** June 16, 2015, 10:32:22 PM »

Quote from: Brandogg on June 16, 2015, 09:58:55 PM

Federation Force looks terrible. It could be fun, but why did they have to make a Metroid game for babies? It's hard to believe that a first party (or whatever Retro is) is putting out a game like that, when Capcom makes stuff like Resident Evil Revelaitons.

That trailer has more than 10:1 negative votes on YouTube.

Yeah.... it's Next Level Games making this. Good job keeping up with something very important like the negative vote to positive vote ratio and not who is actually developing the damn thing. It's not like it's even hard info to find.

And seeing how Metroid and Nintendo fans are acting today (pathetic and embarrassing as usual)... I would say it's made for them. For babies. You're absolutely right.

Enner · « **Reply #85 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:07:09 PM »

I don't like seeing Devil's Third and Fatal Frame 5 getting buried, especially in Devil's Third case since Nintendo Co. Ltd. bought the damn thing. It's frustrating to see Nintendo of America (or perhaps Nintendo Co. Ltd.) not giving time and not believing in games that is out of Nintendo's usual wheelhouse. It doesn't matter if they end up being bad games because they would have given the impression of variety in the Digital Event. Also, we all remember Wii Music.

Anyway, this is a down year in terms of showmanship for Nintendo, but I have enough titles that I'm interested in to not feel too disappointed.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #86 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:08:13 PM »

Ok, I'm glad that it's not Retro. Does that even really matter? It's not a Metroid game. That's why people are angry. How are Metroid fans acting pathetic and embarrassing? This game looks embarrassing. It's not made for them. Metroid Fusion was made for them. Metroid Other M was made for them. Like I said - it could be fun, just call it something else, like "My First Titanfall" or something.

Evan_B · « **Reply #87 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:26:13 PM »

Phil, I think you're being a bit harsh. Federation Force is a very different game from traditional Metroid- I don't think it looks bad and I'm actually pretty interested in it- but fans have been hungry for something more traditional since Other M and this is a weird move for them to take. Now, the massive amounts of dislikes on videos and hatred is uncalled for, but being disappointed is not.

Same thing with the Digital Event. It didn't feel cohesive at all, focused too much on things we already knew about, and didn't really bring much exciting to the table. It was a lot of content, but not a lt of memorable or interesting content.

Adrock · « **Reply #88 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:36:22 PM »

I think Zelda getting delayed and Nintendo deciding not to talk about NX really hurt the excitement of the Digital Event, but I also think it was in Nintendo's best interest long term not to. Talking about whatever NX is (e.g. hardware, OS etc.) would have effectively buried everything else Nintendo showed. Star Fox and Xenoblade Chronicles X are going to have some trouble carrying Wii U this holiday. The shadow of NX and a potentially delayed off Wii U Zelda wouldn't help things. The Digital Event wasn't great (wasn't absolutely terrible either), but Nintendo made the right call by focusing on the short term, what is available soon or relatively soon on both Wii U and 3DS. NX will have its day. This was just not the right time for it. If Nintendo launches a new console next year, loading up on Zelda, Retro's mystery title (probably Metroid), and Mario is a good start, certainly an infinitely better start than Nintendo gave Wii U.

broodwars · « **Reply #89 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:38:48 PM »

Quote from: Adrock on June 16, 2015, 11:36:22 PM

I think Zelda getting delayed and Nintendo deciding not to talk about NX really hurt the excitement of the Digital Event, but I also think it was in Nintendo's best interest long term not to. Talking about whatever NX is (e.g. hardware, OS etc.) would have effectively buried everything else Nintendo showed. Star Fox and Xenoblade Chronicles X are going to have some trouble carrying Wii U this holiday. The shadow of NX and a potentially delayed off Wii U Zelda wouldn't help things. The Digital Event wasn't great (wasn't absolutely terrible either), but Nintendo made the right call by focusing on the short term, what is available soon or relatively soon on both Wii U and 3DS. NX will have its day. This was just not the right time for it. If Nintendo launches a new console next year, loading up on Zelda, Retro's mystery title (probably Metroid), and Mario is a good start, certainly an infinitely better start than Nintendo gave Wii U.

The thing is, I don't think Nintendo even did a good job of focusing on the short term. They have quite possibly the best 1st party lineup this fall, but you wouldn't know it watching this Direct. Whether it was leaving games out like Fatal Frame or just glossing over others, they failed to drive...really any...point home. It was all scattershot, like Nintendo thought we suffered from ADD.

rlse9 · « **Reply #90 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:45:17 PM »

I had high hopes for the digital event, but as Wii U owner only, it was a big letdown. Mario Maker looks awesome but we already knew that. Yoshi looks cute but we already knew that. Xenoblade looks impressive but we already knew that. Star Fox actually looked pretty good to me, the graphics may need some polishing up but it looks like it's going to have what made the N64 version so good. Other than that, I just didn't get much out of it. The Animal Crossing board game just looks strange, like Mario Party without the mini games and the requirement of buying a bunch of toys, all they needed to announce was a regular Animal Crossing game and I would have been happy. Fatal Frame looks intriguing, it's strange to me that they didn't even mention it. Mario Tennis will be fine I'm sure but it's probably just going to be more of the same. The entire thing screamed to me that they're moving on to the NX and just didn't want to come out and say it. At the end, when they were talking about the 30th anniversary of Mario, I was sure they were about to pull out something big, a new 3D Mario for Wii U or something like that. Instead we got people playing the Mario theme and a website. Oh well, at least it wasn't Wii Music U that was there big title...

I think the thing I'm most looking forward to hearing about at this point is the recently announced Harvest Moon for Wii U. Not that I think it'll be better than most of the games Nintendo has focused on but I've seen enough about them already.

Adrock · « **Reply #91 on:** June 16, 2015, 11:49:54 PM »

Leaving games out was definitely a mistake. Not really sure why Nintendo left out Fatal Frame and Devil's Third, neither of which I'm especially interested in. The Digital Event wasn't as organized as last year. It put up a bunch of trailers largely without context. Nintendo had that one lady talk about the Yoshi's Wooly World Amiibo for what felt like infinity.

Soren · « **Reply #92 on:** June 17, 2015, 12:08:59 AM »

****, how about throwing NIS America a bone and giving Rodea some time on the show? Anything better than this crap sandwich of an event.

broodwars · « **Reply #93 on:** June 17, 2015, 12:13:21 AM »

Quote from: Soren on June 17, 2015, 12:08:59 AM

****, how about throwing NIS America a bone and giving Rodea some time on the show? Anything better than this crap sandwich of an event.

Oh yeah! I forgot about Rodea! That's a 3rd party Wii U & 3DS exclusive, something neither platform is in a position to snub at the moment! How the **** was that not even MENTIONED in this Direct?

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #94 on:** June 17, 2015, 12:34:53 AM »

I don't know guys. They do have that 300 seat room rented for I believe Thursday to present... something? Last year was codenamed steam, who knows what's coming there. There have been far too many omissions for me to conclude that the Digital Event is all we get. Trust Me.

I also said Shenmue 3 was coming this e3, I have a gift!

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #95 on:** June 17, 2015, 12:42:43 AM »

At this point Nintendo doesn't seem concerned about trying to grow the Wii U's or even the 3DS audience and just wants to slide by while maximizing the profits they can off both systems existing userbases. Hence why the more niche games weren't even shown since they probably figure they'll just bomb anyway so might as well focus on games that have a chance of actually being successful with the existing fanbase like Mario, Zelda, Yoshi and even Star Fox since the new game is basically the sequel to Star Fox 64 fans has been asking for almost 20 years now.

Adrock · « **Reply #96 on:** June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 AM »

But it's a Digital Event. Nintendo could have made that as long as it wanted. The Digital Event clocked in at 51 minutes and 29 seconds. Make it an even hour a show a few more games. Fatal Frame: Maiden of the Black Water, Rodea the Sky Solider, and Devil's Third could use the extra exposure. It costs Nintendo nothing to include some extra trailers. "They'll just bomb anyway so let's pretend they don't exist" is faulty reasoning.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #97 on:** June 17, 2015, 12:54:41 AM »

To me this show had a very E3 2012 vibe, where Nintendo had a decent lineup of games, but did an awful job of showcasing them. That year Wonderful 101 wasn't in the press conference, this year it was Fatal Frame and Devil's Third. That year their biggest demo, Pikmin 3, started things off, with it being all downhill from there, and this year they did the same with Star Fox. The fault this year is more with how they structured the event than what they had to show.

broodwars · « **Reply #98 on:** June 17, 2015, 01:22:31 AM »

Quote from: Adrock on June 17, 2015, 12:50:56 AM

It costs Nintendo nothing to include some extra trailers. "They'll just bomb anyway so let's not pretend they don't exist" is faulty reasoning.

Not to mention it's indicative of part of the reason 3rd parties left Nintendo to begin with.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #99 on:** June 17, 2015, 01:26:12 AM »

Think my biggest disappointment was the lack of any 3rd party game, Nintendo had another year to get some of these multiplatform titles ported over to their system, yet choice not to fund/barter/plea to get any of them?

Platinum Games is making an cel-shaded Transformer game for everything but the WII U? Call of Duty skipping the WII U again, Plants vs Zombies: Modern Warfare 2 (which uses Frostbite 3 I believe) is a no show? Nintendo was promising 3rd party support a few months back but the only thing they showed was the Next Skylanders game to have AMIIBO support? BIG FOOKING DEAL %$**#

Soren · « **Reply #100 on:** June 17, 2015, 01:32:25 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on June 17, 2015, 01:26:12 AM

Think my biggest disappointment was the lack of any 3rd party game, Nintendo had another year to get some of these multiplatform titles ported over to their system, yet choice not to fund/barter/plea to get any of them?

That sounds like a sound business decision.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #101 on:** June 17, 2015, 01:43:57 AM »

Quote from: Soren on June 17, 2015, 01:32:25 AM

Quote from: Ymeegod on June 17, 2015, 01:26:12 AM
Think my biggest disappointment was the lack of any 3rd party game, Nintendo had another year to get some of these multiplatform titles ported over to their system, yet choice not to fund/barter/plea to get any of them?

That sounds like a sound business decision.

Yeah, it's Nintendo being smart enough to admit that they've lost. Paying for support now doesn't make sense. It's not going to help the Wii U and it'd hurt their position when they're trying to work with third parties in the future.

Evan_B · « **Reply #102 on:** June 17, 2015, 01:50:18 AM »

Quote from: Nile Boogie Returns on June 17, 2015, 12:34:53 AM

I don't know guys. They do have that 300 seat room rented for I believe Thursday to present... something? Last year was codenamed steam, who knows what's coming there. There have been far too many omissions for me to conclude that the Digital Event is all we get. Trust Me.

Do they, really? I thought I heard no developer roundtable a or anything of the sort this year.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #103 on:** June 17, 2015, 05:52:19 AM »

" It's not going to help the Wii U and it'd hurt their position when they're trying to work with third parties in the future."

This isn't something that happened yesterday, this is YEARS in the making. Nintendo has a freaking Warchest of billion of dollars over the years yet they can't afford to give the the developers a few extra manpower/money to help with development costs?

Porting a game costs a million or so for an AAA title but a lot of these games can be ported for a lot less. I would just focus on the top 5 sellers like Call of Duty, Minecraft, Fifa, ect.
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Soren · « **Reply #104 on:** June 17, 2015, 07:43:46 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on June 17, 2015, 05:52:19 AM

Porting a game costs a million or so for an AAA title but a lot of these games can be ported for a lot less. I would just focus on the top 5 sellers like Call of Duty, Minecraft, Fifa, ect.
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Right, and Shemnue 3's going to get developed with Kickstarter money alone.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #105 on:** June 17, 2015, 08:48:16 AM »

Porting isn't the same as making the game straight out? Shenmue costed 60+ million and Shenmue 2 was nearing the 100 million mark.

It sounds like Sony's footing the bulk of the cost? Or course this could end up another Beyond Good and Evil 2, just a teaser with more promises that turn into vaporware years down the road.

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But porting an game shouldn't take to much effort if the framework (engine) is already supported. For example last year's COD Advance Warfare, the engine already was running at the WII U (COD GHOSTs), so the software complier/toolset is already created. Sure, it's not going to sell well but even if it sold at a slight loss having the next COD game outweighs all the negativity that comes being the only console without it.
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lolmonade · « **Reply #106 on:** June 17, 2015, 08:48:23 AM »

I've got a tale of two reactions here:

Through the presentation, I felt like an inflated balloon that slowly got the air released out of it by the spout being un-pinched, letting out an audible "ppppbbbt" as it slowly deflates.

Starfox looked pretty good from a gameplay standpoint - I expected more visually, but maybe I set the bar too high with Nintendo. I don't mind the gamepad usage as long as I can still use the tv screen to aim.
Skylanders figurine announcements isn't what I hope to see at the e3 presentation - even if I'm a fan of the series
Zelda Triforce Heroes was a pleasant surprise to me, considering we weren't going to see the Wii U game at e3. Hyrule Warriors port doesn't appeal to me because I already have the Wii U game, and WAY too much time showing it.
Metroid Prime Federation Force/Blast Ball - I've never gotten into the series, but the internet is raging about this one.
Fire Emblem - another cinematic trailer, i'd be more interested in gameplay, but maybe it's too similar to FE:A to bother?
J-POP: The game?
Cinematic trailer for Xenoblade Chronicles X - probably a day 1.
TWO animal crossing games, one for the Wii U, and NEITHER are a traditional animal crossing game....I was really hoping for a fleshed Wii U game with local co-op.
Most of Yoshi's Wooly World was talking about the Amiibo. I look forward to the game though.
Yo-Kai Watch - Pokemon meets Digimon? More battling monsters, really not interested.
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam - I haven't been able to get into a paper mario game since the 1000 year door, I have doubts this one will sway me, even if it has a lot of humor.
Mario Tennis: never enjoyed the series
Ends on a long presentation behind the concepts of Mario in discussing SMM, which is an interesting behind-the-curtain look of how they used graph paper to amend levels and what went into the decison behind making the game. The problem is they already had a better showing of this game on Sunday night through the NWC.

My wife's reaction? Unbridled joy.
Didn't care until she saw skylanders, animal crossing, and Yoshi's Wooly World, and that was more than enough to get her excited. She loves all those things, and also loves Amiibo enabled games, so she's all over every bit of it. Designing homes is her favorite part of Animal Crossing - Score one for her. She loves amiibo and is excited to get animal crossing amiibo - score one for her. The skylanders reveal has all but cinched her decision to get the Wii U version over PS4 - score one for her. She's chomping at the bit to get yarn yoshi amiibos preordered.

I think Nintendo got their audiences mixed up. My wife wouldn't bother watching this stuff if it wasn't for me, and I doubt the majority of people watching these want amiibo in their Nintendo presentation. Part of my problem is that a lot of the announced games just aren't in my range of interest. Beyond that, we didn't see ANY Major new Nintendo game announcement, the big tentpole games they showed this presentation were all ones they've shown several times before. Also, the time they spent on amiibo-enabled games for who was watching was inordinate to what people actually wanted to see.

I know they claimed they wanted to focus on "games you'll be playing in the next year", but you gotta throw at least one or two carrots of what the future holds, otherwise you look anemic. You have to expect one of two things based on their presentation: either they're holding more announcments for 2016 until a later Nintendo Direct, or they're starting to cinch the hose on games for the current systems to start building towards NX's launch.

Evan_B · « **Reply #107 on:** June 17, 2015, 08:56:00 AM »

Quote from: Evan_B on June 17, 2015, 01:50:18 AM

Quote from: Nile Boogie Returns on June 17, 2015, 12:34:53 AM
I don't know guys. They do have that 300 seat room rented for I believe Thursday to present... something? Last year was codenamed steam, who knows what's coming there. There have been far too many omissions for me to conclude that the Digital Event is all we get. Trust Me.
Do they, really? I thought I heard no developer roundtable a or anything of the sort this year.

Updating on this- the schedule has nothing regarding another discussion.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #108 on:** June 17, 2015, 10:09:33 AM »

http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-books-299-seat-theater-for-e3-2015-3-booths-reserved/

Could be misinformation but I thought this was a given. I also found it on Ign if this website is unreliable.

Edit: This could have been Pre Zelda delay and no longer needed or its this years "One More Thing"

Evan_B · « **Reply #109 on:** June 17, 2015, 10:34:03 AM »

Until they show something on their streaming/announcement schedule, I can't believe it.

Even then, the fact that they would book a developer roundtable for Zelda Wii U that early isn't convincing, since they probably new before 215 ended that the game wouldn't be coming this year.

We'll have to hit up the staff to see if that's an actual thing or not.

ejamer · « **Reply #110 on:** June 17, 2015, 11:56:07 AM »

I don't think the presentation was terrible. It had some nice content, and was pleasant to watch.

It only lacked anything new that interested me. Not a single announcement of something that I didn't already know about and was even vaguely interested in or excited about. It's kind of a disappointment coming out of the big E3 presentation and only being able to say "well, Nintendo are what we thought there were".

But hey, maybe I'm just not the target audience. It seems more and more likely these days.

Evan_B · « **Reply #111 on:** June 17, 2015, 02:26:02 PM »

The Amiibo audience SHOULD NOT be Nintendo's audience, especially after last year, when they put out such a good show for gamers. Hilariously, Iwata has said they have taken the reaction to heart, but what does that really mean? They'll try to show off better game than what they have already started developing for the next year? Wow, that's reassuring.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #112 on:** June 17, 2015, 04:08:00 PM »

Didn't Retro have some teasing Tweet about E3? Something to do with us digging it? So what the hell was that all about?

In regards to third party support the Wii U is a lost cause. The priority should be to repair third party support for next generation. Now if that requires doing something that does affect the Wii U in the here and now, so be it. Not outright ignoring some third party releases in the E3 presentation would be a start. Why is ANY game being left out? The Wii U has, what, 10 games total due for the remainder of the year? They might as well show everything.

Soren · « **Reply #113 on:** June 17, 2015, 05:19:01 PM »

Updated with Treehouse segments from Day 1 for Super Mario Maker, Star Fox, Skylanders and Smash Bros.

Mop it up · « **Reply #114 on:** June 17, 2015, 06:00:45 PM »

I think that 2015 is looking like the best year for the Wii U.

MagicCow64 · « **Reply #115 on:** June 17, 2015, 06:11:46 PM »

Quote from: Mop it up on June 17, 2015, 06:00:45 PM

I think that 2015 is looking like the best year for the Wii U.

In terms of polished software volume, yeah it's looking pretty damn good, regardless of Nintendo falling on the sword this E3. Unfortunately most of the releases aren't in my wheelhouse. I'm not into competitive shooters, so Splatoon is out. Yoshi's Wooly World looks great, but I have never cared for the Yoshi's Island formula. Nintendo has gone all out on Mario Maker and is clearly very proud of the product, but I have zero interest in content creation games. I had my fill of Mario Tennis on the 64. Xenoblade Chronicles X continues to impress, but I am about this close to getting burnt out on open world games altogether, to the point where I don't know if I can even stomach Arkham Knight after I finish The Witcher 3. I'm only mildly less fatigued with third-person shooters, so Devil's Third has little draw. I do like horror games, so I'll keep an eye on Fatal Frame, but I also find ghosts by far the least interesting horror category.

I'm actually pretty surprised there wasn't a GC remaster announced. It would've been right up the "desperately pad out the Wii U's last 18 months without committing to expensive projects" alley.

Evan_B · « **Reply #116 on:** June 17, 2015, 11:09:52 PM »

This might be the best year for Wii U software but when one of those games is Mario Tennis it feels like a hollow victory.

In any case, I'm surprised at the amount of content on 3DS too, seeing how that hardware is reaching the end of its usefulness.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #117 on:** June 18, 2015, 12:02:25 AM »

The source of the room for 299 people is a dude on NeoGAF.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #118 on:** June 18, 2015, 12:30:54 AM »

After tomorrow I'll have a better grasp on the over all picture as I expect a few new tidbits during Treehouse live but I have to come back to earth. It's not as bad as I thought. I betrayed my own thoughts expecting a AAA replacement for Zelda (which I think was delayed only because of The Witcher 3, but thats another thread) and not seeing Retro's next title is disheartening but overall the next 12 months of the Wii U will be pretty solid. And it should be considering I believe that "Winter is Coming" and the last days of the Wii U are upon us. Not today mind you but by summer 2016 it will be all but a logo. Not a bad run. Still the best overall library of games but that will change once Halo 5 hits The One and Uncharted hits the 4. I hoped Nintendo doubled down on the Wii U last year and they did. I am a better gamer for it. However (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/18/e3-2015-why-nintendo-didnt-show-zelda-wii-u)

That is some straight horseshit.

I feel the paragraphs creeping up so I stop here . STAR FOX looks great!

Evan_B · « **Reply #119 on:** June 18, 2015, 12:55:02 AM »

Yeah, I don't think there will be any surprises tomorrow.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #120 on:** June 18, 2015, 01:06:05 AM »

Quote from: Evan_B on June 17, 2015, 11:09:52 PM

In any case, I'm surprised at the amount of content on 3DS too, seeing how that hardware is reaching the end of its usefulness.

Honestly, even though I am not interested in some of the games coming out for it in the next year, I'm still glad the system has them. When you look at the complete 3DS library including the games to come out for it next year with the ones already released, the 3DS was a very worthy successor to the DS. It didn't have the third party support like the DS and there may not have been as many original ideas or risks/chances as the DS seemed to create but overall it is easily making a case to join the pantheon of great Nintendo Systems with the more diverse software it has been releasing of late.

Adrock · « **Reply #121 on:** June 18, 2015, 01:10:08 AM »

Quote from: Nile Boogie Returns on June 18, 2015, 12:30:54 AM

I betrayed my own thoughts expecting a AAA replacement for Zelda (which I think was delayed only because of The Witcher 3, but thats another thread)]

Okay, I'm curious.

I got the impression that Zelda Wii U was delayed because Nintendo can't release a built-from-the-ground-up console Zelda on time which at this point, sadly, is like not delaying the game. We should expect that when Nintendo announces a timeframe for releasing a new, original console Zelda, it actually means a year or two after that, and it's just lying to itself that it can deliver the game any earlier.

Evan_B · « **Reply #122 on:** June 18, 2015, 01:19:15 AM »

Yeah, Zelda is a clear example of Nintendo knowing what they wanted to do with the game and making a trailer based solely on that. They were excited by how excited we would be if we heard the words "open-world". But then they actually had to MAKE the game, too.

MagicCow64 · « **Reply #123 on:** June 18, 2015, 01:23:47 AM »

Quote from: Adrock on June 18, 2015, 01:10:08 AM

Quote from: Nile Boogie Returns on June 18, 2015, 12:30:54 AM
I betrayed my own thoughts expecting a AAA replacement for Zelda (which I think was delayed only because of The Witcher 3, but thats another thread)]
Okay, I'm curious.

I got the impression that Zelda Wii U was delayed because Nintendo can't release a built-from-the-ground-up console Zelda on time which at this point, sadly, is like not delaying the game. We should expect that when Nintendo announces a timeframe for releasing a new, original console Zelda, it actually means a year or two after that, and it's just lying to itself that it can deliver the game any earlier.

Maybe they ran into the same horse-tech brick wall that the Witcher 3 did, and discovered along with them that good horse-tech is patented by Rockstar, and weren't willing to pay or compromise the vision.

But something must have happened, and I'm thinking more and more that it was a utilitarian business decision. They showed it again when they didn't have to, which is nuts if it was just a stunt. Even if it was cross-gen with the NX, there's no reason not to salvage your presentation with another trailer unless the game hit some major snag developmentally (looking at you, Last Guardian), or if it's being on the NX will make it incorporate a system feature (looking at you, Skyward Sword) that is completely ingrained into the gameplay, and thus make a WiiU version impossible. I don't think anyone is realistically expecting that the NX will so blow away the WiiU spec-wise that a first gen NX game couldn't scale down to the WiiU.

Edit: @Evan_B

Maybe they discovered the terrible secret that open world game design is an unsalvageable contradiction of mini-map dot chasing.

Soren · « **Reply #124 on:** June 18, 2015, 05:34:19 AM »

Caught up with all the treehouse segments that are now online. Day 2 stuff updated.

lolmonade · « **Reply #125 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:05:15 AM »

Anyone who is still salty about the Nintendo Direct - I encourage to take a look at the treehouse footage of any the games, even the ones you were unhappy about.

Still think the Direct was a flop, but they go into details on the games in the treehouse, which is making most of them look a lot better than they were presented as in the direct (Looking at you, Animal Crossing games!).

Evan_B · « **Reply #126 on:** June 18, 2015, 02:37:45 PM »

Did we ever get an official statement of where the hell Devil's Third or Rodea were?

Phil · « **Reply #127 on:** June 18, 2015, 03:06:32 PM »

For Devil's Third it sounds like it's Nintendo of America being their poopy selves.

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #128 on:** June 19, 2015, 12:21:39 AM »

Can somebody explain what they did to make Skylanders look that good, I mean its flat out NUTS on the Wii U?

Evan_B · « **Reply #129 on:** June 19, 2015, 11:04:26 AM »

Quote from: Phil on June 18, 2015, 03:06:32 PM

For Devil's Third it sounds like it's Nintendo of America being their poopy selves.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Are you saying NoA is just stupid? Is this game not coming this year?

Stogi · « **Reply #130 on:** June 19, 2015, 11:29:36 AM »

Well that seals it. Mario Maker is my game of E3, of the year, and possibly of all time.

Phil · « **Reply #131 on:** June 19, 2015, 11:40:16 AM »

Quote from: Evan_B on June 19, 2015, 11:04:26 AM

Quote from: Phil on June 18, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
For Devil's Third it sounds like it's Nintendo of America being their poopy selves.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Are you saying NoA is just stupid? Is this game not coming this year?

Nintendo of America could be either not releasing it here, getting someone else to publish it, or stealth releasing it with little fanfare like many games they've published in the past.

Soren · « **Reply #132 on:** June 19, 2015, 02:52:22 PM »

Final Update with Treehouse links. And some stats

Total Treehouse Segments
Super Mario Maker - 5
Star Fox Zero - 4
Skylanders - 2
Yoshi's Woolly World - 2
Xenoblade Chronicles X - 2
Super Smash Bros - 1
Fatal Frame - 1
Mario Tennis - 1
Animal Crossing - 1
SMTxFE - 1
Mutant Mudds - 1
Fast Racing Neo - 1
Runbow - 1
Amiibo - 1

Phil · « **Reply #133 on:** June 19, 2015, 05:09:16 PM »

Thanks for that, Soren!

Evan_B · « **Reply #134 on:** June 20, 2015, 06:14:23 AM »

Wait, there was a Smash Bros. Treehouse segment? Come on, Nintendo... You could have shown literally anything else... LIKE FUCKING DEVIL'S THIRD.

If we don't get that game this year, I swear.

Soren · « **Reply #135 on:** August 24, 2015, 09:38:25 AM »

A bunch of release dates have been announced. Here's how the the rest of the year looks like:

Super Mario Maker - September 11
Yoshi's Woolly World - October 16
New Super Mario Bros U + Luigi U combo pack - October 16
Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water - October 22 (Digital Only)
Star Fox Zero - November 20
Xenoblade Chronicle X - December 4
Devil's Third - December 11

Third Party
Disney Infinity - August 30
Skylanders - September 20
Just Dance - September 20
LEGO Dimensions - September 27
Guitar Hero Live - October 20
Just Dance - October 20
Shovel Knight Physical - October

Animal Crossing Amiibo Circle Jerk and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash still have "Holiday 2015" release dates. Looking at the calendar on November/December calendar, I'm guessing those games are getting delayed to 2016.

Despite the total lack of 3rd party support Nintendo decided to not talk about Rodea The Sky Soldier (November 10). There is also no mention of Project Treasure, or Project Giant Robot.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #136 on:** August 24, 2015, 10:07:15 AM »

Considering where the console is right now that's actually a pretty solid rest of the year for the Wii U. Late N64 era style, where it's relatively few releases, and prett much all the worthwhile ones are from Nintendo, but the ones that are there look really good.

TOPHATANT123 · « **Reply #137 on:** August 24, 2015, 10:21:18 AM »

In the Project Treasure trailer it said "Next Information Summer 2015" I think TGS technically is still within summer so we could see it again there.

Mario Tennis is the same day as Star Fox in Europe, it's surprising how little is known about it, I hope there is more to it that just being a hd remake of an N64 game with the only addition being obtrusive mushrooms.
I wonder where Fast Racing Neo fits into the lineup, it's still supposed to be 2015.

ejamer · « **Reply #138 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:04:40 AM »

Quote from: Soren on August 24, 2015, 09:38:25 AM

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Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water - October 22 (Digital Only)
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Said it elsewhere, spamming here: going digital only for Fatal Frame sucks, especially since other regions get retail releases and special editions.

Not a huge surprise. The lack of hype or promotion in North America was kind of writing on the wall, but still a huge disappointment.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #139 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:09:42 AM »

Fatal Frame being digital-only would make a lot more sense if not for the fact that Devil's Third is getting a physical release.

ejamer · « **Reply #140 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:34:53 AM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on August 24, 2015, 11:09:42 AM

Fatal Frame being digital-only would make a lot more sense if not for the fact that Devil's Third is getting a physical release.

Or if any other region was going digital only.
It just kind of stands out as it's the only first party digital-only release, and only in this region.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #141 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:38:17 AM »

I'm sure the logistics of distribution on these kinds of things are different in the wider and less population dense area of North America than they are in other regions, so I could see how NoA might want to do it that way when others don't. But Devil's Third seems to have a lot less commercial appeal and it's getting it, which is weird.

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