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Title: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Stratos on September 09, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Through some unknown force, all of the heroes who fought valiantly against the eternal darkness have returned to the Roivas Mansion alive after so many years. It quickly becomes apparent that somehow the ancient Chattur'gha is back and causing trouble again in a quest for total power. They also realize through a vision of Mantorok that amongst them are several traitors including, somehow, the thought defeated Pious Augustus, right hand of the evil ancient. It is quickly determined that those gathered must determine who among them were not who they claimed to be and eliminate them.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 09, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
un-vote Mop it up

She doesn't even really want to play.  And I'm a GameCube.  I was born to Play It Loud!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: apdude on September 09, 2010, 09:14:49 PM
I would tend to agree with thatguy, but since Stratos knows this I don't think he would give her a Mafia role (unless it's randomly generated), so wouldn't we just be killing the numbers of Townies?  Or maybe that what he wants us to think!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: jrlibrarian on September 09, 2010, 09:21:19 PM
This also happened last time. A lot of people lynched certain members, finding out the next morning that they were innocent townies, depleting their own side.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2010, 09:29:17 PM
I would tend to agree with thatguy, but since Stratos knows this I don't think he would give her a Mafia role (unless it's randomly generated), so wouldn't we just be killing the numbers of Townies?  Or maybe that what he wants us to think!

I can't speak to what Stratos is doing here, but most hosts select roles randomly to prevent  any unintentional bias to come through and make it about analyzing the host's choices instead of playing the game.

This also happened last time. A lot of people lynched certain members, finding out the next morning that they were innocent townies, depleting their own side.

That happens in many, if not most games, at least the ones I've been a part of. The first few days are hectic, because you really don't have anything to go on, so its fairly common to lose townies because of how many more there are than mafia members.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 09, 2010, 09:29:41 PM
That happens virtually every game.  I should know.  I know games.  I know cubes.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2010, 09:32:55 PM
My first instinct is to vote for Thatguy, on account of how terrible he is, but I'm going to take a little time to think about it.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 09, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
My first instinct is to lie motionless.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 09, 2010, 10:16:22 PM
The first vote is always the worst, since there are literally no clues and the bad guys could easily lead a vote if they ain't scared of being figured out. :\
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 09, 2010, 10:28:29 PM
Thinking about the bonethief...

Quote
It takes control of the person's voting behind the scenes. It basically gets to choose that person's vote each night it controls the victim. The infected player can still post votes and act normal, but their vote is changed by the bonethief during the night actions like a regular 'vote changer' role would do. The infected player CANNOT reveal their status in the main threads or else they will be instantly killed by the bonethief as it bursts out of the player's body to flee and avoid being caught, so the bonethief's identity remains anonymous. They can tell people in PM's.

Protip: PM me
Comedy option: PM everybody
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: ThePerm on September 09, 2010, 10:36:02 PM
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/edalex3_0044.jpg)
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: apdude on September 09, 2010, 10:46:58 PM
Is that Mop It Up with Thatguy in the background?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 09, 2010, 11:23:47 PM
I'm a GameCube.  No feet.  Just a handle.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Mop it up on September 09, 2010, 11:36:23 PM
Vote Stratos

Aw, I never know what to do when he's the host...
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Toruresu on September 10, 2010, 12:29:17 AM
Hmm...what to do, what to do! anyone got any reliable info?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 12:41:21 AM
I say either thatguy (because his GameCube roleplaying is already getting tiresome and also I never liked him before that) or ThePerm (the usual reasons).
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 12:48:38 AM
To be fair, ThePerm has no controller.  He's like the TV.  He's not a part of the game.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Khushrenada on September 10, 2010, 01:24:06 AM
Oh good. I thought this game started yesterday and I missed the first day but to my pleasant surprise I'm right on time. *pat self on back*.

Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Khushrenada on September 10, 2010, 02:01:59 AM
So, many great choices. I could vote for Vudu who said he couldn't play today but would be around for the rest of the game just to let him watch from the sidelines for the rest of the game.

I could vote Maxi who I think may be the only person to actually read the rules for this game and has asked Stratos a lot of questions about how everything only to get voted out and have all that work for nothing. Plus, for a guy who was waiting forever for the game to start and hasn't posted yet is suspicious.

I could vote out Plugabugz because for once the day and night actions should work great for his timezones and I could screw him out of the first game that he could actually have a good shot at playing well.

I could vote out mop it up because it is cruel.

I could vote stevey for old times sake but that's not funny anymore. However voting out Nickmitch for no good reason except to say he always lays low and never plays the game even though he actually does is still funny.

So many exciting and fascinating options of screw you possibilities.

But in the end, what could be better than picking on someone new?

I Vote Sundoulos.

Yeah I know, apdude is a new player as well. The difference is Sundoulos is expecting to have a baby very soon and it might even be during this game and I can't think of a better gift than setting up him for the disappointments to come. Too far? I had a lot of other lines I thought of losing but thought this was the least hurtful. *pat self on back for showing restraint*
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 02:23:35 AM
First of all I Wiimailed you about the game starting today. So at least you could give me a break as far as voting me out.
I have been keeping my eyes on some things.

2nd of all vudu said he could play from the 9th on. He is basically the reason we are starting today.Today is the ninth.

Finally Sundoulos wife has already had the child.

Please if you are going to vote someone out at least get your facts straight.

For the time being I am going to vote apdude.

It might change later it might not.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 10, 2010, 03:50:20 AM
Caution: theory mafia ahead
 
Keep in mind, there are two vote-changers, one good guy and one bad guy, so a vote may not mean much unless it's stacked by two votes or more. This favors the bad guys substantially since they know who they are, but the good guy (psychologist) still has to guess.
 
So think about what happens in a close vote - the bad guys will change the vote away from themselves, or arbitrarily change it if both top contenders for a vote are good guys. What happens the next turn is that whoever almost got voted out will probably get voted out, and that will be whoever was up for vote just before. Both scenarios are worse than having a strong margin of votes in the first vote.
 
For the psycholigst, arbitrary vote changing without intel or statistical probability is a bad move, as it makes it more ambiguous as to who is changing votes and why; it obscures the mafia's actions. Wait until it's actually probable that you're changing a vote to a bad guy.
 
I think the smart thing to do would be for the librarian, if I understand their role correclty, is to use all 3 of the investigations they get immediately, identify themselves in PMs with the good guys they find, and start a solid voting group.
 
Also, in the interests of substantial numbers of votes, I'll vote this because I like thatguy's brazen immediate vote, I don't think the bad guys would do it. But my door is open if some guys want to get together for a voting bloc.
 
vote Mop it up
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: ThePerm on September 10, 2010, 04:01:10 AM
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/ED12LEON.jpg)

Leon: hey sir with the green sparks...did you notice anything strange?

bone thug: Not really, just the usual bunch crazed cultist monks.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 10, 2010, 04:14:24 AM
I don't understand anything, I work at a gas station
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Stratos on September 10, 2010, 05:09:42 AM
To be fair, ThePerm has no controller.  He's like the TV.  He's not a part of the game.

But in this game remember that it uses the TV in very unique ways to play with your mind ;)
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Shaymin on September 10, 2010, 06:41:08 AM
Vote thatguy since I'm playing it on a Wii and his presence is no longer required.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 07:09:59 AM
Vote thatguy since I'm playing it on a Wii and his presence is no longer required.

Just you wait until that thing "Disc-read-errors" you!  You'll come crying back to me in no time!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: apdude on September 10, 2010, 09:26:38 AM
For the time being I am going to vote apdude.

It might change later it might not.

Wasn't expecting this from my Monster Hunter buddy so soon!  In case Maxi is using me as bait in some elaborate trap to catch the Mafia ganging up and voting me, the only way I can participate due to my work schedule while traveling is this.
 
I Vote "whomever casts a second vote on me" or else "No vote" until I get more info
 
Because that would seem likely to be the Mafia or someone who wants to haze a rookie.  Either way they would be suspicious to me.
 
 
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Plugabugz on September 10, 2010, 10:28:51 AM
What's the end time?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 10:33:47 AM
You really should read the sign up thread Plugabugz.
11am PST so like in 3 hours and 30 mins from now.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
I'd like to know the thinking on the Mop it up vote.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 11:54:55 AM
Oh, my Mop it up vote? There isn't any. In fact, when I'm not on my phone, I plan to change the vote to Insanolord, since we all know he loves GameCubes and isn't Pale or vudu, and therefore must be lying about not liking me!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 10, 2010, 12:20:26 PM
I'd like to know the thinking on the Mop it up vote.
It's not like there's any reason to suspect anybody in particular yet, I think, we may as well pick a random person for reasons stated in my wordier post above.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 12:40:42 PM
Vote Tally
Mop it up-1
thatguy-1
Sundoluos-2
apdude-1
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 10, 2010, 12:46:23 PM
So basically the mafia could probably pick whoever they want out of those via vote change - seriously we should stack on somebody hard
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 01:02:31 PM
Well who would you suggest?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 10, 2010, 01:11:32 PM
Mop It Up seems fine I guess?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 01:22:43 PM
Oh, my Mop it up vote? There isn't any. In fact, when I'm not on my phone, I plan to change the vote to Insanolord, since we all know he loves GameCubes and isn't Pale or vudu, and therefore must be lying about not liking me!

I'm not lying about finding you annoying, but I will admit that I don't think you'd be doing this if you were mafia.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 01:33:40 PM
I'm actually planning to switch my vote from Mop it up, but I do agree that whomever is chosen should have votes piled on.  It's a strategy I've suggested before in past games before I
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
So wait, what are we doing?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Sorry, I froze up there.

We're deciding who we want to go for, then piling on votes to beat evil roles.  I changed my vote from Mop it up to no one, I say we vote for you for various reasons.  I'll copy and paste a PM I sent:

Quote
can tell you why I suspect Insanolord for now:  Instinct.  Who'd vote against me for no reason other than "He's annoying and I don't like him"?  Mafia.

Past that, I'm pretty sure Insanolord likes me.  While I'm a bit, for lack of a better term, ostentatious at times, I'm a likable guy!  Because I'm good enough, smart enough, and gosh-darnit, everyone but Pale and vudu likes me!

...Or not.

Anyway, it seems like somewhat flimsy reasoning to build up a base of people to aim at an easy target.  You know what I'm saying.  I just can't say all this in the thread because I got too involved in my roleplay, and decided Eternal Darkness made me, as the GameCube, freeze.

That's my reason why.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 01:59:03 PM
I was joking around. Look around the forums, I always make jokes about not liking you. You'll notice I never actually voted for you, and when it was time to get serious I said I didn't think you were mafia.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 02:02:55 PM
Sounds fishy.  The Insanolord I used to know, back from 2001 to 2006 didn't joke about the way he thought of me.

Also, darn you all and your Lindemann avatars!  I saw Shaymin did it now.  Before, I just saw shiny head, connected it with you, and etc, etc.

I'm changing my thing to Shaymin.  Let me see if anyone else also went that way, and if so, I'll vote.

Edit: Nope.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 02:07:19 PM
Am I seriously the only one finding thatguy's role playing annoying? I'll admit it's pretty creative, and I admire his dedication, but that doesn't make it less annoying.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Khushrenada on September 10, 2010, 02:10:41 PM
Sundoulos I say! Why won't you listen to me, your true dark lord?!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 02:16:08 PM
Wait, is voting over? Stratos, you should put the times in every day's thread instead of just the original one.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 02:17:50 PM
Eh, I'm going to try to go with Khush for now, sure.  vote Sundulous

Note that I'm not voting with Khush because I agree, as much as I'm voting with Khush to try to load votes and I'm not convinced of Shaymin being guilty at all.  Also Khush is lobbying the most.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Khushrenada on September 10, 2010, 02:19:35 PM
Ha ha. With two posts, I am lobbying the most? What was all that talk above my posts? Nonsense, that's what!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: that Baby guy on September 10, 2010, 02:20:32 PM
Aside from me, of course. Since insanolord half invalidated me and all that.

Uhh...
Please Close Disc Cover
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2010, 02:29:09 PM
So we're stacking the vote against Sundulous to stop the mafia vote changer from screwing with the results? Do I have it right?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: nickmitch on September 10, 2010, 02:29:33 PM
I wanna see how far thatguy can go with this role play.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
Wait, is voting over? Stratos, you should put the times in every day's thread instead of just the original one.
Day 1 started at 3:30 pm yesterday when it was suppose to start at Noon yesterday so in essence we have about 3 more hours left. Stratos hasn't been on since 4 am so I imagine he isn't going to be on soon.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: vudu on September 10, 2010, 02:42:58 PM
VOTE PERM unless he promises to stop posting those pictures.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Perm isn't playing.
Edit:Well look who is here.Hi Stratos!
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Stratos on September 10, 2010, 02:50:04 PM
Did I really say 11? I thought I was going to end the days at 12. I'll just lock it in 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 10, 2010, 02:52:02 PM
You were going to start the new day at Noon.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Sundoulos on September 10, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
The difference is Sundoulos is expecting to have a baby very soon and it might even be during this game and I can't think of a better gift than setting up him for the disappointments to come. Too far? I had a lot of other lines I thought of losing but thought this was the least hurtful. *pat self on back for showing restraint*

I'm voting for Khushrenada, and I would encourage everyone else to do so, too.  Someone so obviously wrong about this is probably wrong about everything else, too.  I ain't no stinkin' mafia.I would have been lobbying harder myself earlier, but I was trying to get a feel for how these things go down. 

P.S.  Both of my sons are 100% pure awesomesauce, thankyouverymuch. :)
I'm changing my vote to thatguy.
 
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: vudu on September 10, 2010, 02:59:39 PM
Perm isn't playing.

Perm isn't playing?  Then why the Hell is he posting in this thread?
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: vudu on September 10, 2010, 03:00:13 PM
VOTE THATGUY because he's probably up to something.
Title: Re: Eternal Mafia Day I
Post by: Stratos on September 10, 2010, 03:14:48 PM
Final Thread Vote Tally (before vote changer powers alter it):

Sundoulos 2
Apdude 1
Mop it up 1
Thatguy 3