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Title: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 21, 2005, 07:12:45 AM
Well, seeing this thread has been up for quite a while now, lets discuss DS sales over in Japan.<BR><BR>And lets hope it will finally catch up to PSP in sales... considering it's been outselling DS for over 2 months now. 
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 21, 2005, 07:44:02 AM
I'll care when it can outsell the DS for more than one week, anything else is just a hiccup.

In addition its not really that big of a deal because all this shows is that the system sales which are by now nearing 3 million for the DS are experiencing the post holiday slowdown, while the PSP hasn't yet reached the slow down in demand because of the early shortages.


platform this week last week 2005 total
1 PlayStation 2  65,837  124,401  189,238  
2 PSP  64,602  62,052  126,654  
3 Nintendo DS  53,527  108,561  162,088  
4 GameBoy Advance SP  18,289  70,851  89,140  
5 GameCube  7,475  19,703  27,178  
6 Gameboy Advance  588  1,719  2,307  
7 Xbox  506  1,179  1,685  

Source: Media Create

obtained from gamescience
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Ian Sane on January 21, 2005, 08:21:15 AM
I expected this.  I think the PSP and DS may frequently alternate the lead like the SNES/Genesis rivalry.  It's not a problem right now though if the PSP starts to consistently outsell the DS and overtakes the DS install base by significant amounts then there will be a problem.

My real concern is more how the PSP will do in North America where the quirkiness of the DS is not as big of a selling feature as it is in Japan.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 21, 2005, 08:24:28 AM
Well as the numbers show the PSP didn't sell much more than the previous week(64,602 vs. 62,052); instead it was the demand for the DS dropped by almost half (53,527 vs. 108,561 ) this indicates more a slow down in DS demand due to the post holiday slump rather than a rise in PSP demand.

Supported by the DS software sales which continue to outpace the PSP:

platform title publisher this week total
1 GBA  Mario Party Advance  Nintendo  67,927  new  
2 PS2  Gran Turismo 4  SCE  63,584  843,340  
3 PS2  Gikei Eiyuden  From Software  41,927  new  
4 DS  Sawaru Made in Wario  Nintendo  33,537  575,069  
5 PS2  Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special  Square Enix  25,264  299,989  
6 PS2  Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himegimi  Square Enix  23,858  3,235,861  
7 DS  Super Mario 64 DS  Nintendo  22,671  593,831  
8 PSP  Minna no GOLF Portable  SCE  18,682  N/A  
9 PS2  METAL GEAR SOLID 3 SNAKE EATER  Konami  18,166  790,518  
10 PSP  Shin Sangoku Musou  Koei  17,070  N/A  

Again from gamescience.

As you can see the PSP games are trailing the DS sales by a fair margin, indicating that its more that those who wanted the DS this early already have it and as a result the hardware sales have slowed.  Expect them to start up again in march or april.

As for the DS vs. PSP in NA, remember that the DS actually has sold faster here in the US than in Japan, seems American gamers are intrigued by the innovation of the touchscreen.

Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: vudu on January 21, 2005, 08:32:05 AM
This is what makes me sad:

31%:  PSP Market Share
25%:  DS Market Share
31%:  PS2 Market Share
09%:  GBA Market Share
00%:  Xbox Market Share (Assumed)

96%:  Total

This leaves only 4% for poor old GameCube.  Quite sad, indeed.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 21, 2005, 09:14:24 AM
I think GC sales will go up when biohazard arrives next week.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2005, 10:32:18 AM
Just wait for Pokemon (and Jump Superstars)...
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Mario on January 21, 2005, 01:01:49 PM
When is Jump Superstars out? Pokemon won't be out for ages.

Why aren't the Japanese buying Band Brothers and Hitofude? Morons.

Catch! Touch! Yoshi! is released there next week, it should give the DS a boost, even though I think both systems are still sold out so these hardware sales mean nothing.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 21, 2005, 05:22:02 PM
someone sucks. Polarium is the reason I own a DS. this is easily the best puzzle game ever released.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: mT3 on January 21, 2005, 08:55:10 PM
Hey guys i decided to resign up on these forums. I useto come on as Dee Kay but i forgot my pword. But anyway, i was just wondering how does PSP have a larger market share then the DS if the DS has sold more. Or is that just for that week?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: KDR_11k on January 21, 2005, 09:10:28 PM
Market share means how much it currently sells, not how much it has sold.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: mT3 on January 21, 2005, 09:17:42 PM
oh ok thanks
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Xavya on January 22, 2005, 08:17:10 AM
Japanese Sales Figures (1/9) [ Media Create ]  

Since it is a new year the total sales for hardware has been reset. However, because of the handheld war between the Nintendo DS and PSP we have added a column after current year total which is the systems total since their respective launch.

Software
1. Gran Turismo 4 - PS2 - 145,027 - 779,796
2. Tales Of The World - GBA - 81,045 - 81,045
3. Wario Ware: Touched! - NDS - 63,214 - 271,150
4. Super Mario 64 DS - NDS - 46,098 - 571,160
5. Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater - PS2 - 42,005 - 772,352
6. Dragon Quest VIII - PS2 - 37,507 - 3,212,003
7. Mega Man Battle Network 5 - GBA - 35,100 - 84,758
8. Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy - PS2 - 32,903 - 274,785
9. Mario Party 6 - GC - 30,626 - 499,555
10. Pokemon Dash - NDS - 29,813 - 77,869

Hardware
1. PlayStation 2 - 124,401 - (124,401)
2. Nintendo DS - 108,561 - (108,561) - [1,604,157]
3. Game Boy Advance SP - 70,851 - (70,851)
4. PSP - 62,052 - (62,052) - [544,304]
5. GameCube - 19,703 - (19,703)
6. Game Boy Advance - 1,719 - (1,729)
7. Xbox - 1,179 - (1,179)
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Mario on January 22, 2005, 02:32:13 PM
Quote

3. Wario Ware: Touched! - NDS - 63,214 - 271,150
4. Super Mario 64 DS - NDS - 46,098 - 571,160

That Wario Ware total is wrong. It should be 571,150 or something. The Pokemon Dash total should be a few hundred thousand higher too.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Gamefreak on January 22, 2005, 03:46:51 PM
800,000 for PSP may not sound like much to us, but for Sony it's a huge number. After all, they're starting with zero market share against the company the has owned the handheld since it created it years and years ago. When was the last time a non-Nintendo handheld did this well?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: nickmitch on January 22, 2005, 04:21:57 PM
Why since those dreams all those people at Sony had the other night.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Mario on January 22, 2005, 04:39:44 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Gamefreak
800,000 for PSP may not sound like much to us, but for Sony it's a huge number. After all, they're starting with zero market share against the company the has owned the handheld since it created it years and years ago. When was the last time a non-Nintendo handheld did this well?


The wonderswan has sold 3 million systems in Japan. The Neo Geo Pocket (or was it the game gear? i dont know, one of them) sold 10 million systems worldwide. PSP still hasn't reached "wonderswan level failure" yet. I'd say it's about N-Gage level failure right now, moving up towards wonderswan.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 23, 2005, 12:07:06 AM
Well the good news about this is that DS games are still selling heaps more than any PSP titles.  1st party and 3rd party DS games are selling better than PSP's best selling games.

For Nintendo that means better 3rd party support.  If publishers know that the DS will have more sales, then thats the system they will have their development studios make games for.

I wished Capcom would have waited to see sales of RE4 in both countries or atleast in the U.S. to see how profitable it would be to keep exclusitivity instead of just announcing the PS2 version which will make Japanese sales figures go down.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mT3 on January 23, 2005, 03:10:18 AM
How do you know the numbers are fake?
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 23, 2005, 03:25:13 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ShaolinKilla
Well the good news about this is that DS games are still selling heaps more than any PSP titles.  1st party and 3rd party DS games are selling better than PSP's best selling games.

For Nintendo that means better 3rd party support.  If publishers know that the DS will have more sales, then thats the system they will have their development studios make games for.

I wished Capcom would have waited to see sales of RE4 in both countries or atleast in the U.S. to see how profitable it would be to keep exclusitivity instead of just announcing the PS2 version which will make Japanese sales figures go down.

Ummmm, which third party DS game has outsold Hot Shots Golf or Ridge Racers, or Dynasty Warriors PSP, which are all over 200k each?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Gamefreak on January 23, 2005, 06:52:31 AM
lol Mario... learn to think next time you post. The wonderswan sold 3 million units. Okay. Now when did the wonder swan (and NGPC, and GG) come out? Yeah that's what I thought. The PSP has sold 800,000 in about a month in Japan, far eclipsing any other non-Nintendo handheld.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Arbok on January 23, 2005, 07:58:42 AM
So those numbers were fake? A-ha ha ha... man, that's even better that someone would stoop to that level and make those up, then the fact that the DS is still outselling the PSP.

Quote

Originally posted by: Gamefreak
lol Mario... learn to think next time you post. The wonderswan sold 3 million units. Okay. Now when did the wonder swan (and NGPC, and GG) come out? Yeah that's what I thought. The PSP has sold 800,000 in about a month in Japan, far eclipsing any other non-Nintendo handheld.


He's simply saying that the PSP isn't a huge success yet. Will it beat the Wonder Swan in time? Of course, but it's not there yet. Although the limited supply is probably a huge factor here.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: sbdark on January 23, 2005, 02:40:17 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Hedorah64
So those numbers were fake? A-ha ha ha... man, that's even better that someone would stoop to that level and make those up, then the fact that the DS is still outselling the PSP.

Quote

Originally posted by: Gamefreak
lol Mario... learn to think next time you post. The wonderswan sold 3 million units. Okay. Now when did the wonder swan (and NGPC, and GG) come out? Yeah that's what I thought. The PSP has sold 800,000 in about a month in Japan, far eclipsing any other non-Nintendo handheld.


He's simply saying that the PSP isn't a huge success yet. Will it beat the Wonder Swan in time? Of course, but it's not there yet. Although the limited supply is probably a huge factor here.


i dont think the psp will out sell ds in japan just yet but if ds wants to keep in the game they must make more great content for it.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 23, 2005, 03:31:23 PM
Hey Mario, your totally right.  I thought i could have sworn i saw some good third party sales but as of now i can't find anything at all.

All i see is 1st party sales.

I don't even see Feel the Magic anywhere.

DS = DoOmEd, lol

Oh well im not worried at all.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 23, 2005, 03:59:48 PM
Flop Out The Magic suffered a very bad miscarriage, unfortunately. Spiderman 2 DS is doing pretty good in the US though.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 23, 2005, 09:02:25 PM
Quote

(EDIT - I've recently found out these numbers are FAKE. I think the DS outsold PSP [again] this week. Geez, it's like people actually want DS to fail... )


Ummm, they aren't fake, got proof?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on January 24, 2005, 04:19:41 AM
The media currently seems to do their best to repair the floodgates the DS broke through and attempt to sway people to the PSP... Somehow they are more critical of the DS than the PSP but that might be the "grass greener on other side" effect, once the PSP is out here I'd imagine the tones to change a bit.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 24, 2005, 10:47:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Quote

(EDIT - I've recently found out these numbers are FAKE. I think the DS outsold PSP [again] this week. Geez, it's like people actually want DS to fail... )


Ummm, they aren't fake, got proof?


Really? Hmm, everyone kept telling me they were fake... then some people told me they were real...

Agh, I'm confused. I guess they're real then.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Gamefreak on January 24, 2005, 03:17:45 PM
The media expects more from Nintendo. Anyway, I don't see any PSP reviews better than Mario 64 DS, which I think we can all agree on as a general disappointment as a launch title, and it's the only first party game from launch until now, and beyond. What does the PSP have better? Nothing I can think of. I think they both have things the other should have... I don't really care all that much for the second screen, although i'm not saying its bad, but there isn't TONS of reason not to go with just one big screen. BUT i'm totally for the touch screen, microphone, stereo speakers, Wi-Fi, wireless LAN, all of which I hope become handheld standards. At the same time I love the PSP's power and screen. You know, there's no reason the DS shouldn't be as fast as the PSP. What drives the PSP price isn't the 333 Mhz (as opposed to combined 100 mhz) CPU, CPU's are cheap as dirt. It's the disc drive, screen, and all that stuff... I think the DS should at least have have dual 166 mhz main CPU, and then the 33 Mhz GBA cp. The cost would barely go up, Nintendo could probably still make a profit, and at that level we're talking about the raw power of a Dreamcast, but all concentrated on rendering at half the resolution of a TV. Basically 2 times the clock speed to pixel ratio of the Dreamcast... At that speed the DS could output full 3D graphics N64 quality to both screens at once... Unlike where now if you want 3D on both at once it won't look to great...
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 24, 2005, 05:05:53 PM
what
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 24, 2005, 06:08:37 PM
The numbers are real. However, PSP outsold DS by 9,000 units. This is the first time the DS has NOT outsold PSP by at least 40,000 units, IIRC. Sony's software sales are nowhere near as high as DS' atm.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 26, 2005, 02:40:50 PM
Well PSP outsold DS for the second time last week....

Enterbrain Numbers for 17 - 23rd Jan ,

PSP:66,000
PS2:52,000
DS:47,000
GBA SP:19,000
GC:4,000
GBA:600
XB:400

And software:

1 PS2 Monster Hunter G 128,000
2 PS2 Fuun Bakumatsuden 54,000
3 PS2 Gran Turismo 4 33,000 (924,000)
4 DS Sawaru: Made In Wario 26,000 (604,000)
5 PS2 Mahou Sensei Negima! Tokime - Magister Negi Magi 26,000
6 GBA Mario Party Advance 26,000 (99,000)
7 DS Super Mario 64 26,000 (586,000)

8 PS2 DQ & FF in Itadaki Street Special 21,000 (328,000)
9 PSP Everybody's Golf Portable 18,000 (245,000)
10 PS2 Neon Genesis Evangelion: Koutetsu no Girlfriend 17,000
11 GBA Bouken Ou Beet Busters Road 14,000
12 PS2 Daito Pachislot 13,000 (359,000)
13 PS2 義経英雄伝 13,000 (53,000)
14 PSP Ridge Racers 12,000 (198,000)
15 GBA Rockman EXE 5 Team Of Blues 12,000 (323,000)
16 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII 11,000 (3,417,000)
17 PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3 10,000 (770,000)
18 PSP Dynasty Warriors 9,700 (190,000)
19 PSP Piposaru Academy 9,400 (61,000)
20 DS Pokemon Dash 8,600 (274,000)


Heh.. not good, also, the DS seems to be killing off Nintendo's money maker the GBA SP, which is not good at all. PSP software is creeping up on DS software too, and Everybody's Golf is now in front of both DS games in the daily charts.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 26, 2005, 02:50:05 PM
Ugh... that can't be good.  You know, the GameCube had record-breaking sales when it first launched, so we can't really determine the future just yet... but anyway, do you think the DS will eventually catch up?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 26, 2005, 03:07:06 PM
Well at this rate it's going to take the PSP 8 months to catch up to the DS's total sales assuming it continues outselling it, but Catch! Touch! Yoshi! was just released for DS today, and I think that might boost sales, I don't really see many big PSP games coming out in the future. DS hardware sales will shoot up when the first Pokemon DS details are shown too.

It's very hard to tell, and it's still early, both systems could still be selling out of all their shipments. I think both systems will co-exist and both will be successes, it remains to be seen whether or not the PSP's initial "OMG BIG SCREEN, GRAPHICS" gimmick will wear off or not.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 26, 2005, 03:28:25 PM
Indeed, it is much too early to tell, but we all know that, right? =p

Mario brought something up that's probably pretty obvious, but I haven't really thought about.  As of right now, the DS is the one with the gimmicks, and the PSP is the "hardcore" gaming machine.  But in the future, the DS will prove itself software-wise, and maybe the PSP will turn into the gimmick machine once  people start to realize that they already played a better version of this on their PS2s.

But, I honestly believe that both systems can coexist, peacefully at that.  The DS is really just testing the waters to see how the public takes a shift in the way games are played as preparation for the Revolution, and already it's been hugely successful.  Preorders, what, doubled what Nintendo expected?  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mT3 on January 26, 2005, 10:44:20 PM
how many units has yoshi touch and go sold atm?
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: DemonFox on January 27, 2005, 03:20:01 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: mT3
how many units has yoshi touch and go sold atm?


It's only been out for 1 day... I don't think they have numbers yet. But it sold at least one cuz I ordered it.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 27, 2005, 03:25:48 AM
Daily charts for yesterday the 27th, when Yoshi and RE4 came out

27th Jan:

01. Monster Hunter G PS2
02. Biohazard 4 GC
03. Radiata Stories PS2
04. Another Century's Episode PS2
05. Gran Turismo 4 PS2
06. Minna no Golf PSP
07. Yuen PS2
08. Sawaru Made in Wario NDS
09. Super Mario 64 DS NDS
10. Dynasty Warriors PSP
11. Ridge Racers PSP
12. Mario Party Advance GBA
13. Daitogeki PS2
14. DQ+FF Itadaki Street Special PS2
15. Mahou Sensei Negima PS2
16. Piposaru Acedemy PSP
17. Dragon Quest VIII PS2
18. NGE Girlfriend of Steel 2nd PS2
19. Catch! Touch! Yoshi! NDS
20. Rockman EXE 5 GBA (tie)
20. Fist of the North Star PS2 (tie)

Ouch... RE4 and Yoshi flopped on day one, but will they have legs?

EDIT: Nevermind, those sales were RELEASED on the 27th, but they are from the 26th , I guess some people got  RE4 and Yoshi early. Nothing to see in this post folks.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: vudu on January 27, 2005, 07:55:33 AM
So Biohazard 4 sold enough copies to rank it as #2 for the day and it hadn't even been released yet?  Looks like we have a winner!
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 27, 2005, 08:47:51 AM
So the PSP outsold the DS by 19,000 eh?

PSPF66,000
DSF47,000

So if it continues to outsell the DS by 19,000 a week it will take 100 weeks to pass the DS
(since the DS is at least 1.9 million ahead of the PSP)

I'm not going to lose any sleep over this.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mT3 on January 27, 2005, 11:09:18 AM
Does this mean the PSP out sold the DS for hte second week? im starting to get worried. what if the DS weekly figures keep declining and the PSP stay the same or incline. there could be one possibly explanation for this , and i think that the DS has already hit its peak. Its been out longer and the rush is over. The PSP's has just started. Atleast i hope. anyway god bless the DS and i cant wait for february 24th AUSTRALIA release. hehehe.

all the eb stores over here have started advertising and taking preorders, all you ever see are people looking at it and asking stupid questions.
"Can you touch the screen?"
"Can i play multiplayer games without using a cord?"
"Does the pen scratch the screen?"

lol anyways cyas
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 27, 2005, 12:30:05 PM
Quote

So if it continues to outsell the DS by 19,000 a week it will take 100 weeks to pass the DS
(since the DS is at least 1.9 million ahead of the PSP)


... So it will take approximately 2 years to catch up to DS if it continues to sell 19,000 a week.

Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 27, 2005, 12:34:19 PM
Pretty much, if it continues to outsell the DS by 19,000 every week in two years it'll catch up to the DS, and since it isn't likely to outsell the DS by 19,000 every week for two years, especially when nintendo releases its online plans its not really anything to worry about
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: couchmonkey on January 28, 2005, 05:14:41 AM
Two months ago Nintendo owned 100% of the portable market.  Looking at these early sales, I think the safe bets are on PSP to be the first handheld to truly go toe-to-toe with Nintendo's.  And that's bad news for Nintendo, which relies entirely on videogames to survive, and has been losing marketshare with each new generation of home consoles.  The days of Nintendo riding on the success of Gameboy are over, and if Nintendo can't recover some of the home console market, my favourite game company may be...in the long, long run...doomed.

Nothing like that is going to happen any time soon, but we're looking at one more case of Nintendo losing marketshare.  I don't think we should panic over this, for sure.  DS is doing fine, and I think it's going to be a big success.  But it's not going to be an uncontested success like Gameboy Advance was.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 28, 2005, 05:21:35 AM
Well that depends on the long run, if PSP fails to garner the games then in the long run it'll tank.

This intial sales are totally on hype, the race has just begun, the winner won't be clear for 1-2 yrs. at least.

Not to mention sony is losing alot of money in the hopes of gaining the market so if they continue to see financial losses and don't manage to steal a sizeable portion of the market they may not remain in the market for long.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Deguello on January 28, 2005, 05:39:00 AM
I think the DS holds all the trump cards in Japan.  Pokemon of course will sell a lot of DS's.  The unusually heavy, almost exclusive Square Enix support will probably sell a lot too.  Jump Superstars looks to be the next big thing, considering it is essentialy Super Smash Brothers (which Japan seems to like) with manga characters in it (which Japan also seems to like.)  Does Sony have anything coming up with that kind of insane popularity (Pokemon), general popularity (Square Enix stuff), or potential popularity (Jump Superstars)?

America might be a little different, but if the best the PSP can muster is a rabble of console-port sports games and interesting-yet-not-as-interesting-as-DS-puzzlers puzzle games for launch, then they might have problems.

Also on a note about sales...
                          Sold      /    Shipped
Nintendo DS = 1,657,684 / 1,800,000
Sony PSP    =   608,906   /  800,000

DS's seems to be less available as of right now.  I dunno if they means they are more desired or not, though, but it is interesting, yes?  
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 28, 2005, 06:20:33 AM
I'm thinking that the DS is harder to find in japan right now because all of the manufacturing is going towards supply for the EU launch.   The sales will go back up once the launch production is finished.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 28, 2005, 08:11:34 AM
You know, sales of Pokemon Fire Red & Leaf Green downright PROVED Pokemon still sells. They were friggin remakes, and they sold through the roof.

If they were mere remakes, and PKMN D&P are entirely new games that are said to change the series, I imagine they will garner Godly sales.

Also, Sony is losing a heap of money with this PSP stuff. And they've chosen possibly the worst release date for it. If PSP doesn't garner enough sales, Sony might actually be forced to discontinue, because of all the money they are losing.

I think Nintendo could win this battle, but not outright dominate it like other battles, which isn't necesarilly a bad thing.

And I think Nintendo could quite possibly be the leader next gen as well.  
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mantidor on January 28, 2005, 02:20:02 PM
I wonder if anyone has any numbers in other portables launch, like the game gear or the Ngage.  I mean has the psp really surpassed the performance of other handhelds doing a fair comparison of their respective launchs?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Caillan on January 28, 2005, 02:27:54 PM
The NGage has sold 1.3 million units so far. Mario said the Wonderswan had sold 3 million units in Japan, but I'm guessing they'll have more in South Korea. The problem with the South Korean market is that as the PSP or DS aren't legally allowed to sell there, the Wonderswan has no serious competition.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: jarob on January 28, 2005, 04:35:20 PM
Why cant they sell in South Korea?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Caillan on January 28, 2005, 04:41:50 PM
South Korea is very protective of its industries, especially from Japanese competitors. The PS2 was only released there because Sony convinced a judge that it is as much a personal computer as it is a gaming console. I'm pretty sure this applies to handheld systems as well. The Wonderswan is a Korean-developed device.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 29, 2005, 03:59:36 AM
How well did the Sega game gear sell during its lifetime?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on January 29, 2005, 04:17:51 AM
It sold 1,780,000 in Japan and a total of 8,650,000 worldwide.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on January 29, 2005, 06:33:21 AM
How did its launch go?
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mr. Saturn on January 30, 2005, 04:16:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
You know, sales of Pokemon Fire Red & Leaf Green downright PROVED Pokemon still sells. They were friggin remakes, and they sold through the roof.

If they were mere remakes, and PKMN D&P are entirely new games that are said to change the series, I imagine they will garner Godly sales.

Also, Sony is losing a heap of money with this PSP stuff. And they've chosen possibly the worst release date for it. If PSP doesn't garner enough sales, Sony might actually be forced to discontinue, because of all the money they are losing.

I think Nintendo could win this battle, but not outright dominate it like other battles, which isn't necesarilly a bad thing.

And I think Nintendo could quite possibly be the leader next gen as well.


Noble~Feather, I'm not saying you're wrong or anything but what makes you think Nintendo could be the market leader next gen anyways?  I mean after all Nintendo continues to lose market share every generation, so what makes you think Revolution will turn things around for Nintendo?
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 30, 2005, 04:28:08 PM
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Noble~Feather, I'm not saying you're wrong or anything but what makes you think Nintendo could be the market leader next gen anyways? I mean after all Nintendo continues to lose market share every generation, so what makes you think Revolution will turn things around for Nintendo?


Well that's kind of a stupid question.

I do know a few things about Revo that you don't, and I can only describe it like this:

NINTENDO invented the analogue stick. Then when they revealed it, SONY coppied the idea and released their console first, complete with the latest media format, while Nintendo released their console later [so keep in mind that THEIR idea was not very "new" anymore since PS already had it for quite some time] with an old media.

Now for the REVOLUTION:

Nintendo is releasing THEIR console before Sony this time, and this time they are NOT going to let anyone copy them, including Sony. They are also releasing with the latest media format, much like how SONY did with PS1&2.

The way Revo plays is as revolutionary as the analogue, and this time, Sony [or any other company for that matter] is not going to copy the new way to play.

Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 30, 2005, 10:37:31 PM
Technically none of that is proven, it is all mere talk.  Just like the whole N21's "Home Game Function" which basically connects the world's N21's together ie XBOX LIVE.

Untill Nintendo releases a date, Sony can still match or even beat Nintendo.  Have we aslo forgotten the XBOX 2 which will be the first new next gen system.

XBOX 2 could take American audience away from Sony.  IMO i think it will fail, but it is possible seeing how much America loves its $eXBOX.

I don't mean to bad mouth Nintendo at all but next gen is going to be a make or break.  Nintendo has been in decline for too long, if Revolution/N5/N21 does worst than Gamecube I believe we will see Nintendo leave the console game industry.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 31, 2005, 03:52:24 AM
First day sales people

gamescience

platform title publisher Jan. 27 sales shipment sold
1 PS2 Radiata Stories Square Enix 152,000 54%
2 PS2 Another Century's Episode Banpresto 130,000 83%
3 GC biohazard 4  Capcom 117,000 63%
4 PS2 Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 2 Atlus 39,000 44%
5 PS2 DEATH BY DEGREES Namco 24,000 44%
6 DS Catch! Touch! Yoshi! Nintendo 23,000 18%
7 PS2 Memories Off After Rain Special ED Kid 9,500 75%
8 PS2 Shinki Gensou: Spectral Souls 2 Idea Factory 8,300 71%
9 PSP Soukyuu no Fafnaa Bandai 7,600 50%
10 PS2 Space Battleship Yamato: Ankoku Seidan Teikoku no Gyakushuu  Bandai 6,900 27%
11 PSP Rengoku: The Tower of Purgatory Hudson 6,400 51%
12 PS2 Shinki Gensou: Spectral Souls 2 Special Edition Idea Factory 6,300 70%
13 GBA Tantei Jinguuji Saburo: Shiroiei no Shoujo Marvelous 6,200 35%
14 PS2 Kawa no Nushi Tsuri: Wonderful Journey Marvelous 5,900 25%
15 PS2 PROJECT ALTERED BEAST Sega 4,200 22%
16 Xbox Outrun 2 Sega 3,700 54%


Well I see RE4 getting clost to that million mark WW
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Gamebasher on February 01, 2005, 12:09:56 PM
Couchmonkey, you are needlessly worried about something which is really not to be worried about. Nintendo is not going to be doomed. And you should refrain from even saying that word! If any are doomed, is is Sony with their whole home entertainment strategy failing already. Here is what I noticed about your reply:

"The days of Nintendo riding on the success of Gameboy are over, and if Nintendo can't recover some of the home console market, my favourite game company may be...in the long, long run...doomed."

There will always be competition between the gamemakers, but there is no way that Nintendo will perish! First of all, the market is going to expand by Nintendo´s innovations in DS and Revolution. So that whole idea that there is only room for two on the market is ridiculous!  And when the initial wow-effect of the Sony PSP is over as compared to Nintendo DS which screen isn´t nearly as cool as the one on NDS, people will be back at square one again seing that PSP is just more of the same, and therefore giving them exactly the problem that persists with the games on Ps2 and on xbox: boredom!

The games and fun in them coming out on NDS will outdo almost any PSP game in initial appeal to new gamers. A tall statement perhaps, but there is clearly already now evidence that the people who get to play the Nintendo DS at the Nintendo Roadshow events react extremely favourable to it because it is so easy to get to grips with and to thus instantly enjoy. Whereas the games on PSP have been seen a million times before, and have tired people to a point where they began to look away from games alltogether! That is the reason for the marketstagnation which Nintendo has so long been talking about and has righted as we speak with DS and the upcoming Revolution console! So it will only last a short time, before the sameness of those games shine through, leaving DS to show them the alternative!! I personally don´t care if the PSP will sell a lot. The DS will sell more. Because it captures the hearth of gaming: secure gameplay fun! It´s basically all up to how well Nintendo executes their worldwide marketing for the DS! And judging by current media exposure, they are rocking and rolling!!

Don´t believe me on what I say about DS? If not, hear what Iwata said himself about the new handheld (and how entirely new gamers reacted to it) in the most recent conference in Paris, Europe (this is a must-hear speech with one cool surprise effect, lasting around 12 minutes and free to view):

Iwata hammers home the DS succes    
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on February 02, 2005, 04:59:53 AM
Third time:

24-30 Jan

PS2 : 53,800
NGC : 9,700
Xbox : 500
GBA : 400
GBA SP : 22,000
PSP : 71,000
NDS : 42,000

This is happening even though reports from people in Japan say there are Nintendo DS's everywhere and it's impossible to find a PSP. Biohazard 4 entered the charts at number 3 with 145,000 sold, and Catch! Flop! Yoshi! entered at number 5 with 52,000 sold. Not looking good.

EDIT: What is also interesting to note, is that while 71,000 people bought a PSP last week, only about 40,000 units of PSP software was sold that same week, which means people are buying PSP's without games. However over 100,000 of DS software was sold, with only 42,000 people buying a DS, which means people are buying 2 games, or their existing userbase is buying their second game. Hardware: Software tie ratio is starting to shift in favor of Nintendo DS.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mantidor on February 02, 2005, 05:18:55 AM
on thing I dont get is how the psp sold out when the numbers are just 71000, wasnt sony shipping in batches of 100000 if I remember correctly?
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 02, 2005, 05:19:01 AM
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This is happening even though reports from people in Japan say there are Nintendo DS's everywhere and it's impossible to find a PSP. Biohazard 4 entered the charts at number 3 with 145,000 sold, and Catch! Flop! Yoshi! entered at number 5 with 52,000 sold. Not looking good.


I disagree, the numbers are pointing to a continuous rate of sales for the DS, right around 40-50K, even after the initial rush has receded, with game sales remaining quite high.(heck Yoshi did better than the entire PSP lineup combined)

while the PSP is only selling well now due to the early lack of hardware, I expect this wave of PSP sales to last 2-5 weeks more before leveling off(not to mention the PSP has to sell like this for months in order to cover the ground the DS has on it).  In addition the lack of software sales indicates bad news for Sony in the long run as they hoped to make their money on software to cover the hardware loss.  The current numbers indicate the PSP will be used not for gaming but rather for a media device.  
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on February 02, 2005, 05:22:33 AM
I just meant not looking good for the week.

but yeah, Yoshi should continue selling and possibly reach over 500,000 in it's lifetime, Nintendo games have longer legs than anything else in Japan, and Yoshi Gravitation on GBA only sold about 8,000 in it's first week and went on to sell over 200,000. Plus Mario and Wario keep selling and both of those could pass a million in Japan alone, which is very impressive.

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Originally posted by: mantidor
on thing I dont get is how the psp sold out when the numbers are just 71000, wasnt sony shipping in batches of 100000 if I remember correctly?

Sony's online store sells the rest, they aren't counted in sales charts.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 02, 2005, 05:44:21 AM
Yeah but I'm not really worried about week on week sales, because the current sales numbers represent two different hardware stages for the DS and PSP, DS is currently in the post-rush mode while PSP is in the rush mode.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on February 16, 2005, 12:06:41 PM
Um... PSP just outsold DS for the 4th week in a row...

Just thought I'd let ya guys know...
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on February 16, 2005, 12:34:01 PM
Actually.. it'd be the 5th or 6th time in a row now. Nintendo DS sales are slowly decreasing while PSP sales are slowly increasing. At least Nintendo has three DS games in the top ten.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Noble~Feather on February 16, 2005, 01:55:43 PM
You know, Another Code is releasing in a few days... hopefully that will boost sales.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mantidor on February 16, 2005, 03:38:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Actually.. it'd be the 5th or 6th time in a row now. Nintendo DS sales are slowly decreasing while PSP sales are slowly increasing. At least Nintendo has three DS games in the top ten.


what? the later numbers in the sales thread were 50000 for the psp, it lowered considerably, the DS sales were lower also but not as much
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Artimus on February 16, 2005, 04:24:09 PM
Both are evening out a bit. Though if the DS would have some GAMES for goodness sake. Urgh, it's pathetic.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on February 16, 2005, 05:39:44 PM
This week:
PlayStation Portable 52,000
Nintendo DS 30,000

Last week's numbers:
PlayStation Portable 51,000
Nintendo DS 35,000

Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mantidor on February 16, 2005, 06:22:42 PM
damn, now that I asked the same question in two different threads I feel like a spammer >_<! anyway as I said, the psp is no longer outsold everywhere, or is it?  
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on February 17, 2005, 11:02:57 PM
According to Media Create, Nintendo DS sales from launch, til now.

12/20-12/26  |  396,674
12/27- 1/02  |  209,522
1/03- 1/09  |  108,561
1/10- 1/16  |   53,527
1/17- 1/23  |   44,608
1/24- 1/30  |   43,226
1/31- 2/06  |   29,552
2/07- 2/13  |   26,205

I'm noticing a pattern here...
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on February 18, 2005, 12:55:23 AM
I have a feeling they're waiting for better games.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: ruby_onix on February 18, 2005, 02:35:18 AM
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According to Media Create, Nintendo DS sales from launch, til now.

You forgot "most of December" and about a million DS units.

That's a picture of what hardware sales (for both the DS and the PSP) look like once the clock ticks past "Dec 25".
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Mario on February 18, 2005, 11:48:53 AM
That is correct! I didn't notice that, I never read what I type.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 18, 2005, 11:54:29 AM
For all the weeks that PSP has outsold the DS its still only about 60,000 ahead for 2005 in Japan, which puts it about 2-3 million behind the DS

Not only that but its software has sold like maybe a tenth of what the DS software has sold, and nintendo's big guns haven't even been released.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: BlkPaladin on March 02, 2005, 04:15:10 AM
Well in a few weeks that will disappear when its released in the US.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on March 02, 2005, 04:54:01 AM
No way, they can't produce PSPs that fast.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Savior on March 02, 2005, 11:19:55 AM
Sony has 1 million PSPs for the US Launch (Which will probably sell very well) im not so sure it will continue to be strong past the 1 million mark....  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 02, 2005, 11:54:28 AM
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Sony has 1 million PSPs for the US Launch (Which will probably sell very well) im not so sure it will continue to be strong past the 1 million mark....


My guess is Sony has been hoarding all the ones it could produce for the US market in order to release them in one large Deluge, but you're right its likely that one the first shipment is sold out it'll be weeks before much more arrives.

This is probably why they delayed the Europe relese, they probably knew they couldn't meet initial demand for both places so they chose to hold off on the Europe launch.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: jarob on March 02, 2005, 02:34:19 PM
Why do you think it wont be strong past the 1 million mark?  Everything to me looks like it will sell very well for a long time.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Savior on March 02, 2005, 02:50:40 PM
Because i dont know if they will able to go into a bigger market than the 24-30 year old tech head junkie... I still dont see them getting the bulk of the handheld market... the younger crowd, something like that
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 04, 2005, 06:00:51 AM
platform title publisher this week total
1 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Koei 569,892 new
2 GC Starfox Assault Nintendo 80,510 new
3 GBA Rockman EXE 5 Team of Colonel Capcom 62,458 new
4 DS Another Code: Futatsu no Kioku Nintendo 59,346 new

5 PS2 Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star+ Sega 49,729 new
6 PS2 Dragon Ball Z3 Bandai 43,159 560,966
7 PS2 Devil May Cry 3 Capcom 38,565 233,095
8 PS2 Sakura Taisen 3 Sega 34,189 new
9 PSP Namco Museum Namco 21,775 new
10 PS2 Rumble Roses Konami 21,576 95,511

platform this week last week 2005 total
1 PlayStation 2 44,378 38,954 476,469
2 PSP 41,867 38,314 442,536
3 Nintendo DS 26,761 22,363 354,803
4 GameBoy Advance SP 11,124 10,849 159,850
5 GameCube 3,351 3,256 58,779
6 Gameboy Advance 341 399 4,762
7 Xbox 245 295 3,840


Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: jarob on March 06, 2005, 01:40:09 PM
So PSP has sold more this year than the DS?  Wow.  Nintendo has a huge battle on their hands.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Artimus on March 06, 2005, 02:10:18 PM
If Nintendo would release actual killer aps it wouldn't be in this situation...
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: jarob on March 06, 2005, 02:31:08 PM
Rumors of a new GameBoy, PSP selling very well.  I know I wont be buying DS anytime soon.  Very few titles for the DS also.  What is N doing?  I really wanted a DS over the holidays and now I am happy I did not get one.  Sad to say that.  Wait and see mode.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Deguello on March 06, 2005, 10:46:32 PM
"So PSP has sold more this year than the DS? Wow. Nintendo has a huge battle on their hands."

Yeah, Sony only has, like 1 million or so more units to go.  And that's just Japan.

"Rumors of a new GameBoy"

I have a bridge on the Green Cheese Moon to sell you.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Ian Sane on March 07, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
PSP: 442,536
Nintendo DS: 354,803

These have to be the most depressing figures I've ever seen.  There's no excuse for Nintendo, the portable market leader since 1989, to launch first and be within reach of being overtaken by the PSP already.  If it was reversed and Sony was launching first I know they would have made better use of their head start.  It's bad enough that Nintendo seems incapable of defeating Sony.  It's worse that they already had the N64 to learn from yet they're showing the exact sort of inane incompetance they did back in 1996.  It's like once Sony enters a market Nintendo goes from invinicible game god to super doofus.

Oh my God!  Sony's entering our market!  We better do something weird and release no games.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 07, 2005, 07:28:37 AM
Well first off thats a 100K lead for 2005 in Japan compared to the DS having what a +1 million lead in 2004 in Japan and an almost +3 miilion lead WW, yeah the PSP is in range of overtaking the DS....Riiiight.

yeah a new Game Boy, what are you on drugs!?!?!?

even the analyst said it was going to be an update of the SP not a new Game Boy platform

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I have a bridge on the Green Cheese Moon to sell you

Yeah exactly
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: jarob on March 07, 2005, 07:38:03 AM
So you dont think Nintendo has a huge battle on their hands?  I would suggest you stop drinking that coolaid ;-)  You have to be honest, things don't look that good for the DS.   A million lead.  uh uh.  Just wait.  Every week the PSP is outselling the DS, wont take too long to catch up.  When/if it does, then what will you say?  What execuse will you give Nintendo then?  I want Nintendo to win this battle, but they are not looking good.  DS should have blown the PSP out of the water.  If Nintendo does not slow the PSP sales (with a few awesome games), I see a huge snow ball effect starting for the PSP.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 07, 2005, 07:47:29 AM
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So you dont think Nintendo has a huge battle on their hands? I would suggest you stop drinking that coolaid ;-) You have to be honest, things don't look that good for the DS. A million lead. uh uh. Just wait. Every week the PSP is outselling the DS, wont take too long to catch up. When/if it does, then what will you say? What execuse will you give Nintendo then? I want Nintendo to win this battle, but they are not looking good. DS should have blown the PSP out of the water. If Nintendo does not slow the PSP sales (with a few awesome games), I see a huge snow ball effect starting for the PSP.


At its current rate it'll take over a year to catch up in Japan.

As for the US it has about almost a 2 million lead, its the PSP that has a huge battle on its hands

Software sales tilt decisively in the DS's favor

You think its bad for Nintendo?  You need to look at the numbers, everything is in the DS's favor at the moment.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2005, 10:22:58 AM
The PSP has a larger library at launch because of cheap portjobs. If those don't catch on they're doomed. The DS has some major hits in the pipeline and one of them might turn out to be Nintendo's FF7. People complain about SM64DS being a port, almost all PSP games are ports. The few that aren't don't exactly appeal to the mainstream (Metal Gear Solid 3 sold bad enough already, I doubt Acid will sell even close to that). That rumored "GTA game at launch" is still nowhere to be seen.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: couchmonkey on March 08, 2005, 05:19:49 AM
A two million system lead is not a huge battle.  PS2 has some tens of millions more systems sold than GameCube or Xbox - THAT is a huge battle.  This is a close fight, closer than it should be considering Nintendo launched first and has had a virtual monopoly on handheld gaming for years.

But I don't think Nintendo is doomed like some others here do, I just think it could be doing better.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: mantidor on March 08, 2005, 06:11:52 AM
I think that for an experimental system, which the DS is in at least some way, Nintendo is doing extremely well. Sony doesnt have to overcome a two million sales lead of the DS, it has to overcome a 20+ million sales of the gba to say they have won in the handheld market. Unless Nintendo stopped the support for the gba, which they havent.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on March 08, 2005, 06:24:00 AM
I don't think it could have been any wider. The DS has a lead on the PSP... Of how many months again? We're seeing the PSP crawl slowly towards the DS in Japan but how much of a lead did the DS have on the PSP?
Nintendo took a risk here. Lauch ahead of the PSP with very few titles or launch after the PSP but with more titles. Sony was the one choosing the battlefield here. Their PSP has matured enough to be released (well, game-wise. Hardware-wise it's still a Sony), the DS saw a premature release. It wouldn't have been ready until much later, probably months after the PSP launch if Nintendo had waited for the games to be ready like they did with all their previous consoles. They've never fought such a close decisive battle before, all their other systems were never made in reaction to a competitor's launch. Iwata wants them to fight. He knows how Yamauchi's "we work our usual schedule" worked for the N64 and especially the Gamecube. Having a larger number out there first will make more third parties develop for you and even if the situation might shift later on you still have loads of games coming and a better chance at getting a killer app to turn the tables. The Xenon has more devs than the PS3 or Rev simply because it'll release earlier. That means more games by the time the others hit the market. That's 20% of the work done already (good product), the remaining 80% (perception) are up to you. Of course, as it was a reaction the DS couldn't launch early enough to get a significant advantage but launching before Sony, especially after they've revealed their true specs, is still better than launching after Sony.

Though I'm not sure the DS was a smart business move. In fact I believe Nintendo would've had a much greater chance had they left the Gameboy as their primary product for Sony to fight against. The GBA is so utterly dominant it cannot be ignored or beaten anymore. Now people see it as PSP vs. DS which is a much tougher fight. Had Nintendo waited for two years and one-upped Sony they'd have blown them back to hell. The PSP would have some momentum already but two years later would make the GBE seem like a new generation and customers willing to buy again. then it'd look like the PSP is struggling against the GBA with its HUGE library and userbase, which is a fight it has no chance of winning. I'm not sure how devs would have reacted but I'm sure they wouldn't skip the GBA. Perhaps give the PSP some portjobs for the rest of the home generation and forget it after that. At that point the GBE could come in, offer more than the PSP does, replace the GBA which has been the dominant handheld for ages and the preferred toy of kids everywhere (face it, the PSP will never grab the kid market like that). Perhaps with Gamecube AND GBA compatibility, not even leaving Sony with the library advantage of that gen. That would be the finishing blow since children would be searching for a new toy now that their GBA is so old and the PSP won't have much appeal to them (it'd be much more expensive had Nintendo not thrown in the DS) and the techfreaks will see this as the new gadget to have. Hardcore gamers will buy it anyway. If it had the dual screens (i.e. GC emulation mode and GBE mode for GC-level DS games) it would appeal to the non gamers as well. With a proper preparation time they'd have enough new titles at launch. Total devastation of Sony.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2005, 06:29:13 AM
"Sony doesnt have to overcome a two million sales lead of the DS, it has to overcome a 20+ million sales of the gba to say they have won in the handheld market. Unless Nintendo stopped the support for the gba, which they havent."

Yeah.  Just like the Playstation had to beat the SNES.  The GBA is last gen portable hardware.  It's obsolete.  I don't care if Nintendo still makes some games for it the truth is Nintendo has released superior portable hardware so the GBA is no longer a factor.  It's PSP vs DS and right now that race is pretty close all things considering.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on March 08, 2005, 09:15:18 AM
With the release of the Xenon development for the other consoles isn't going to stop immediately. Sure, the GBA would fade away if left unattended too long but it still has a huge userbase that won't migrate that quickly to the PSP. When the PS1 came out, did people already know about Project Reality? Did SNES games stop being released the moment the PS1 turned up or did PS1 development stop the day the Dreamcast was released? A leading console is only replaced after its manufacturer issues the next console, then people might migrate to the next thing. There are still games coming out for the PS1 and GBC and that's many more years after they've been replaced. The GBA's influx of new games would get smaller and smaller but not diminish completely until the GBE was already very close.

I was thinking primarily about image. Releasing the GBE with the stima of "Their last handheld was one of the most sold systems of the world" is much better than going in with the stigma of "Their last handheld pretty much tied with the PSP" or even worse "they already lost against the PSP". Though the two handheld pillars idea might be another way of forcing Sony to shorten the PSP's lifecycle if they wish to keep their selling point of better graphics alive... Make them compete with the weaker DS now, release the GBE at full power later...

The N64 had the huge disadvantage of cartridges, complicated APIs and the associated costs making game development much less profitable on the platform, a GBE based on GC tech would be VERY comparable to the PSP both in size and cost. Also, from what I gather the PS1 only really pulled ahead with FF7. That's what Iwata is hoping for, a killer app of FF7 scale that will pull the DS miles ahead of the PSP. A GC-based GBE would have a much better chance against the PSP than the N64 had against the PS1 (GC compatibility would also offer it games that fully use the abilities at launch as opposed to games that don't match the games made natively for the platform) because dev tools already exist and there's a huge number of games that could simply be reissued and sell to the people who didn't go with the GC this gen (a whole lot if the GBE is nearly as successful as the GBA, even half would suffice). Other games could be easy ports from the PSP maybe with an extra or two to quickly match the PSP's library.  
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Deguello on March 08, 2005, 09:28:24 AM
"It's PSP vs DS and right now that race is pretty close all things considering. "

From a business standpoint I disagree.  By the Time the PSP reaches America, the DS will be available in every single major market, that being Japan, The United State, Europe, and I guess Australia.  It is the PSP that has to catch up, not the DS.  It is Nintendo's race to lose.

And as a gamer I also disagree.  The DS's future looks much brighter than the PSP's.  Look at Japan's future near-future titles for the PSP.  The most wanted game is a PSOne port.  The DS may have its share of N64 ports, but it doesn't seem to be relying on them  

Edit:

"That's what Iwata is hoping for, a killer app of FF7 scale that will pull the DS miles ahead of the PSP."

I think they are gonna get it, at least in Japan.  If not Pokemon or some Square Enix title, it will probably be that Jump Superstars game that everybody and their brother wants.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: ruby_onix on March 08, 2005, 01:12:20 PM
BTW, here's a summary of all the Media Create numbers since the DS/PSP launch.

Some of my PSP "total" numbers are off somehow, and I don't think the math's wrong, so one of my numbers must be. So if anyone knows which month isn't quite right, feel free to point it out an I'll correct it.

Media Create:
Rank Platform: WeeklyTotal - YearlyTotal


Nov 29 - Dec 5
1 NDS: 468,883 - 468,883


Dec 6 - 12
1 NDS: 198,892 - 667,775
2 PSP: 160,019 - 160,019


Dec 13 - 19
1 NDS: 221,625 - 889,400
-
3 PSP: 85,059 - 245,078


Dec 20 - 26
1 NDS: 396,674 - 1,286,074
-
5 PSP: 107,217 - 352,295


Dec 27 - Jan 2
NDS: 209,522 - 1,495,596 <---2004
PSP: 129,957 - 482,252 <----Totals


Jan 3 - 9
-
2 NDS: 108,561 - 108,561
-
4 PSP: 62,052 - 62,052


Jan 10 - 16
-
2 PSP: 64,602 - 126,654
3 NDS: 53,527 - 162,088


Jan 17 - 23
PSP: 56,274 - 182,928
NDS: 44,608 - 206,696


Jan 24 - 30
PSP: 74,405 - 257,333
NDS: 43,226 - 249,922


Jan 31 - Feb 6
PSP: 48,781 - 306,114
NDS: 29,552 - 279,474


Feb 7 - 13
PSP: 45,972 - 352,086  
NDS: 26,205 - 305,679


Feb 14 - 20
-
2 PSP: 38,314 - 400,669  <- 10,269 unit error got in somewhere
3 NDS: 22,363 - 328,042


Feb 21 - 27
-
2 PSP: 41,867 - 442,536
3 NDS: 26,761 - 354,803


As far as "shipments" go, Sony apparently had 200,000 units ready for the Japanese launch. They shipped 100,000 per-week after that. By the end of December, in terms of sold/shipped percentage, the DS was more "sold out" than the PSP (yet at the same time, more readily available, because of the larger scale).

Sometime in early January, Sony managed to increase their production to well over 200,000 units a week, but by then the PSP had slowed down (that happens after major "events", without fresh new games to create more "events"), so Sony stuck with their constant 100,000 unit-per-week shipments in Japan, and started stockpiling units for the American launch.

Sony will apparently launch the PSP in America with a "massive" one million unit launch, due to the "unprecendented demand" (indicated by the "shortages" in Japan).

NPD numbers have been oddly elusive lately, but last I saw (around Christmas?) the DS was at something like 1.8 million. Probably over two million in the US right now.


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A two million system lead is not a huge battle.

The XBox was winning in America by 1 million units for the first year or two (thanks pretty much to Halo), during which time everyone seemed to be saying "Oh, well, the GameCube is holding it's own, but that's only because the XBox bombed in Japan. Here in America, the XBox is King." Now imagine what it would've looked like if the XBox had beaten the GameCube in Japan by a million units...

Of course, you can't count on that to mean anything, because XBox fanboys are blowhards, and everybody wants to kick Nintendo while they're down (and the fact that Nintendo's not down seems to be pissing everyone off, prompting them to kick harder), and the Sony fanboys think that the PSP is Kutaragi's Gift to Videogaming.  
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 10, 2005, 08:51:40 AM
Well the race has changed, the DS will be going "online" not to mention it'll be free and the flagship game will be animal crossing!!!

And the nails are being pounded into the PSP's coffin as we speak.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Artimus on March 10, 2005, 08:54:24 AM
Animal Crossing and Mario Kart are going to triple the system's sales in like a month. Mario Kart sells better than almost anything, and when you combine that with worldwide play...oh dear. And Animal Crossing is the most on-line friendly title ever. Today has got me insanely excited, the promise is beginning to come true.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 10, 2005, 10:16:20 AM
Mario Kart online?

He never said anything about that...
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Ian Sane on March 10, 2005, 10:22:59 AM
According to IGN Mario Kart was demoed with 8 players but was not mentioned as being online.  I hope it is since it seems like such a waste to release it offline when online games will be available this year.  In that case if reviewers wanted to knock off points for no online I'd support it since the feature is right there ready to be used and unlike with the Cube Nintendo is using it.  There's no excuse for Nintendo to release their first online DS games in the same year as Mario Kart and have Mario Kart be offline.

But anyway the PSP doesn't have an online advantage anymore and Animal Crossing online is a very big deal.  That's a game that non-gamers and gamers really do both enjoy.  Mario Kart would really help though.
Title: RE:PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 10, 2005, 10:25:12 AM
Oh I'm pretty certain that Mario Kart and Advance Wars will both be online
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Artimus on March 10, 2005, 10:34:05 AM
Mario Kart will be online. It would make no sense to release it within a month or two of online and not have it be online. Along with Animal Crossing it's the best suited Nintendo title.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: vudu on March 10, 2005, 11:00:26 AM
Maybe Nintendo will take a cue from Sony and release regular Mario Kart DS and then release an online version a few months later and make people buy it again.
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 12, 2005, 03:40:31 AM
Mario Kart looked pretty much finished at GDC, but for some reason (online maybe?) Reggie stated that it's looking at a Q4 release. It ran smooth (most likely 60fps), had many charachters available with the individual kinks worked out, and it finished the layout and map presention. If you saw the video you would agree that it would release in a 1-3 month time for quality's sake, but now, it's releasing after 7-9 months? What could those extra months be used for? Online, mark my words.  
Title: RE: PSP outsells DS for the first time (EDIT)
Post by: KDR_11k on March 12, 2005, 04:49:49 AM
And game balancing, of course. You can never spend enough time with play balancing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Michael8983 on March 12, 2005, 03:51:54 PM
I think Animal Crossing will be the DS's FF7.
The Animal Crossing games on the N64 and GCN were HUGE hits in Japan but on the DS with its portability, touch-screen, and online features it will be a phenomenon. Animal Crossing and the DS go together so well it almost seems as if the system was built for this one game.
Then there's also POKEMON and SQUARE-ENIX games on the horizon.
So talk of the DS being doomed is just silly.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 14, 2005, 11:23:09 AM
http://www.charttrack.co.uk/html/news.htm

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Nintendo DS achieves the biggest launch week for any UK console (either CD or Handheld) with a projected UK sales of 87,000 units. Nintendo's UK GBA launch week (week 25, 2001) was an estimated 67,000, while GBA SP managed 47,000 (week 13, 2003). However, before today Nintendo's Gamecube was the fastest selling console over a launch week with 69,000 units (week 18, 2002) thanks to an extremely low launch price for a static console (around £127). DS launched on Friday with 16 titles available compared to 13 for the launch of the original GBA.

Whoa! and look at all the DS games in the chart,
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4-SUPER MARIO 64 DS
6-WARIO WARE TOUCHED!
10-RAYMAN DS
12-ASPHALT: URBAN GT
15-THE URBZ: SIMS IN THE CITY
16-TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 2005
18-POKEMON DASH
19-SPIDER-MAN 2
25-ROBOTS
29-PROJECT RUB
39-ZOO KEEPER
40-POLARIUM

What an awesome launch!

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,12430762%5E15338%5E%5Enbv%5E15306%2D15321,00.html

Similar launch happened in Australia, with Super Mario 64 DS and Wario Ware Touched! debuting at number one and two on the all formats chart and the console breaking sales records.

Amazing, Nintendo have won the two markets that hate them the most... DS is unstoppable.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on March 14, 2005, 03:16:56 PM
Alright, this is getting a little nuts. Both PSP AND PS2 are outselling DS. Needless to mention PSP has been outselling DS for quite some time now.

They might as well rename the game division of Japan "Sony Land".

I sware, if Nintendo could just release a few screens, a few screens, of PKMN Diamond & Pearl, it would give a nice boost in sales.

Sony dominating the handheld market as well scares me. And the fact that they made that "most beautiful thing in the world" speach makes me a little pissed too.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 14, 2005, 03:30:59 PM
Yay for Zoo Keeper just making it into the UK charts! Take THAT, 1950's society.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 14, 2005, 06:11:51 PM
Quote

They might as well rename Japan "Sony Land".

There would be more DS owners than PSP owners in this so called "Sony Land". Calm down.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on March 25, 2005, 12:01:02 AM
The Media Create weekly Japanese sales figures are out again.

The PSP beat the DS by 20,000 units again. This is becoming a trend. At this rate the PSP will beat the DS in Japan in about two years.

1: PSP 43,644
2: PS2 40,270
3: NDS 22,446
4: GBASP 11,013
5: GCN 3,357
6: GBA 477
7: Xbox 345

I decided to go through their top-50 games and pick out (and attempt to poorly translate) the DS and PSP games.

Only the top ten games has sales figures listed. All games are 5,040 yen (about $47 USD), unless otherwise mentioned.

07: NDS Harvest Moon - 28,312 units
09: PSP Sarugeshichu P! - 20,395 units
10: PSP Tales of Eternia - 19,736 units
11: NDS Pac-Pix
22: NDS Meteos
23: PSP Everybody's Golf
25: PSP Ridge Racers
26: PSP Namco Museum - 3,990 yen
27: PSP Dynasty Warriors - 5,544 yen
29: NDS Another Code - 4,800 yen
32: NDS Sawaru Made in Wario - 4,800 yen
33: NDS Catch! Touch! Yoshi! - 4,800 yen
35: NDS Super Mario 64DS - 4,800 yen
41: PSP Peoples Academy ???
43: PSP Need For Speed Underground
44: PSP Popolocrois

Edit: Fixed some names.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 25, 2005, 02:11:58 AM
It seems pretty even there... both systems now need ONE really good game to get a boost over the other, I wonder if Nintendogs will be able to lift DS hardware sales once again? Jump Superstars will give the DS a big boost, but that isn't out for ages.  

edit: OH! Forgot about Kirby, that just came out the other day, can't wait to see how well it did in next weeks chart.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 25, 2005, 02:22:10 AM
s/poporokurosu/Popolocrois/
s/27. ???/27. Dynasty warriors/
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 25, 2005, 05:39:47 AM
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At this rate the PSP will beat the DS in Japan in about two years.


Yup in two years I'll start to worry
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on March 25, 2005, 06:27:15 AM
So does the DS still have an overall lead on the PSP?

What are the official Japanese numbers, and when will the US charts for March come out?

Can't wait to find out who won.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 25, 2005, 06:30:26 AM
Yes the DS has the overall lead both here in the US and Japan.  In Japan the DS has about a 1 million system lead, while in the US its around 2 mil.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on March 28, 2005, 06:38:33 AM
I'm a bit torn here because I don't like to be too negative about the DS but I also don't like to be unrealistic.  Speaking realistically, it's not good if PSP keeps outselling the DS, even if it will take two years to "catch up".

For one thing, the sales gap isn't going to be this small forever.  If Sony remains the leader, then it could easily overtake Nintendo thanks to Christmas sales (in Japan, it will probably take longer elsewhere).

For another thing, even if it doesn't expand the gap, the fact that the PSP is selling this well at all means Nintendo has lost its monopoly.  It's still too early to say if PSP will be a long-term success, but going by the fact that it's consistently outsold DS in Japan for about two months now, it seems that Nintendo is not the only handheld maker in town anymore.

Finally, Mario Kart and Kirby look like awesome games, but ultimately Japan will go to whomever has the best RPGs first.  Right now, PSP is the only system with a real RPG at all (Tales of Eternia), so that doesn't bode very well for DS.

DS is going to be a success, but I can't understand how anyone can still delude themselves into believing Nintendo will win this fight with both hands tied behind its back.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 28, 2005, 07:37:19 AM
Egg Monster Heroes is coming out soon in Japan, got good scores from Famitsu. Also, I heard there is a Dragon Warrior remake in the works. If that's true may $DEITY have mercy upon the PSP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on March 28, 2005, 09:58:27 AM
Wha?? Dragon Warrior remake?

Link?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on March 28, 2005, 03:48:22 PM
is Another (Code) out there yet?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 28, 2005, 04:16:32 PM
Another code has been out in Japan and it did fairly well there are the stats from the-magicbox.com
17     Another Code: Futatsu no Kioku     Nintendo     NDS     AVG     8,872(sales from March 7 - 13)  74,393(total units sold)  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Savior on March 28, 2005, 04:26:18 PM
Nintendo just needs Pokemon DS...  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 28, 2005, 06:17:11 PM
And Jump Superstars
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 28, 2005, 08:43:34 PM
Noble: Not sure if it's Quest or Warrior and if there's a number involved. Nor whether it's more than a rumour.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on March 28, 2005, 09:52:28 PM
You're probably thinking about Dragon Quest: Slime Mori Mori.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on March 31, 2005, 12:51:20 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!! DS finally outsells PSP, thanks to the new colors.

I guess people just wanted to pimp their DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris1 on March 31, 2005, 01:00:31 PM
Where?  In Japan?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on March 31, 2005, 01:28:02 PM
^ yes.

USA wont get new colors until later this year (im sure we'll hear something about it at E3)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 31, 2005, 02:50:34 PM
Have you got any numbers???
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Polyethylene on March 31, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
Here are the numbers for the last week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on March 31, 2005, 03:27:52 PM
March 21 -27
1: NDS - 55,825
2: PSP - 43,043
3: PS2 - 40,398
4: GBASP - 14,904
5: GCN - 4,568
6: GBA - 653
7: Xbox - 406

Media Create  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 31, 2005, 05:00:09 PM
Here are the new sales - I got them from BlacknMild in the Gamecube Forum

More charts from Japan  March 21-27

Hardware

DS - 55,825
PSP - 43,043
PS2 - 40,398
GBASP - 14,904
GC - 4,568
GBA - 653
Xbox - 406

Software:

1. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - Konami - 238,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 Wild Arms The 4th Detonator - SCE - 131,000 (NEW)
3. NDS Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 75,000 (NEW)
4. PS2 Shining Force Neo - Sega - 63,000 (NEW)
5. PSP Bleach: Heat the Soul - SCE - 37,000 (NEW)
6. NDS Egg Monster Hero - Square Enix - 31,000 (NEW)
7. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 - Koei - 26,000 (825,000)
8. PS2 Phantom Kingdom - Nippon Ichi - 17,000 (90,000)
9. NDS Harvest Moon Corobockle Station - Marvellous - 17,000 (45,000)
10. NGC Donkey Konga 3 Tabehoudai - Nintendo - 16,000 (53,000)


EDIT: lol Ruby you beat me to it - oh well at least I got the software sales

BTW, Kirby did very well - the new colours and that helped boost the DS sales.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 31, 2005, 07:37:38 PM
This just proves that the DS is lacking one thing only: games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 31, 2005, 08:49:14 PM
How's that?  PSP has one game on the top ten and DS has 3, and the highest of the DS is higher than the one PSP has (by over twice as many sales).
Not saying more games wouldn't be nice, cuz they would, but it certainly seems to have the games it needs for now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 31, 2005, 09:24:19 PM
In Japan, that's true. However, everywhere else, a few more high quality games would be appreciated..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 01, 2005, 06:43:38 AM
How's it true? Because the DS does best when a new game comes out. It has nothing to do with the PSP, I was not talking about the PSP. I'm talking about the DS. Is it coincidental that the system had its highest software sale in a while and the highest system sales? Yes the colours affected it, but Kirby is the highest seller in a while.

Anyone else think Nintendogs could be a huge thing in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 01, 2005, 07:04:51 AM
not just japan but here too.


But this is great, coupled with the flopped US release and the pushed back Europe release, its looking like Nintendo could finish off the PSP, as a competitor, this year if things go well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 01, 2005, 07:46:31 PM
Are there any numbers for the first week for the PSP?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 01, 2005, 07:54:12 PM
You're going to have to wait for NPD sales, which likely won't pop up for another week and a half...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on April 02, 2005, 04:10:27 AM
"its looking like Nintendo could finish off the PSP, as a competitor, this year if things go well"

C'mon now this is Sony we're talking about here.  If this was Nintendo vs. Sega, I could see that but not with Sony.  Don't forget GTA unless it comes out to be half the game of the consoles.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 02, 2005, 05:00:09 AM
I don't doubt that the PSP will stick around for a while, but it'll end up being relegated to the "also-ran" category.

A distant second at best.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jarob on April 02, 2005, 05:24:52 AM
PSP just came out in the US and you are saying it will be a distant second?  You are way too early for that type of prediction.  Wait until after Christmas, then we will have a  much better idea.  Remember PSP had very little advertising before it came out.  I still have not seen a commercial for it.  If it was not for this site and a few others, I would have no idea it was out now.   Though weak sales of the PSP so far, looks good for the DS :-) At this point of the game only.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 02, 2005, 05:31:45 AM
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Remember PSP had very little advertising before it came out. I still have not seen a commercial for it


Really?  I've seen dozens, five last night alone.



Quote

PSP just came out in the US and you are saying it will be a distant second? You are way too early for that type of prediction


Actually i said if things go well [for ninty and the DS]then it'll end up in distant second, you have to read all my replies not just the most recent.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 04, 2005, 06:34:52 AM
According to American Technology Research (don't know how reliable they are or where they got their numbers or if Nintendorks is yanking my chain here, but....) PSP sold about 575,000 units in the first week.  You can see a full article on Nintendorks

That's not too bad.  It's nothing like a sell-out, but it's a pretty brisk pace.  I'm feeling more positive and optimistic since I saw last week's DS numbers in Japan.  I don't mind Sony giving Nintendo some competition, I just don't want to see Nintendo wind up in a distant second like it has in home consoles.  I said it before and I'll say it again: I'd like to see PSP as a serious but not too threatening competitor to the DS, to force Nintendo to be a bit more competitive with things like pricing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 04, 2005, 01:12:06 PM
I'm really baffled how anyone could complain about Nintend's handheld prices. They've always been great.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on April 04, 2005, 01:33:43 PM
I'm in the same boat actually, if anything I'd be complaining about $40 to $50 handheld games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 05, 2005, 12:22:25 PM
The pricing of games is exactly what I'm talking about.  Nintendo hasn't dropped the price of any of its GBA games at all since launch!  The hardware prices are fair, but with console games constantly dropping in price, I feel like it's a rip-off that Super Mario Advance still costs $40 CDN.  Granted, cartridges are more expensive than discs, but some third-party publishers release brand-new GBA games for $25-$30, so why is Nintendo still charging full price for games that have long since made a profit?  The answer is because it has no competition!  Other than third-party developers, and Nintendo doesn't need to compete with them, its games are already popular and taking away third party sales wouldn't be good for business.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 06, 2005, 10:41:47 AM
If competition forced price drops I'd imagine we'd see some more of them on the Cube but instead Cube games remain high priced almost forever.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 08, 2005, 06:33:23 AM
Media Create Hardware Sales: 28 Mar - 3 Apr

platform this week last week 2005 total
1 PlayStation 2  44,117  40,398  686,831  
2 Nintendo DS  42,023  55,825  527,393  
3 PSP  33,911  43,043  667,074  
4 GameBoy Advance SP  17,710  14,904  230,470  
5 GameCube  3,754  4,568  78,338  
6 Gameboy Advance  1,074  653  7,980  
7 Xbox  335  406  5,347  


Media Create Software Sales: 28 Mar - 3 Apr

platform title publisher this week total
1 PS2  Tekken 5  Namco  174,064  new  
2 PS2  World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution  Konami  66,953  305,264  
3 DS  Touch! Kirby  Nintendo  32,766  108,131  
4 PS2  Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator  SCE  26,998  158,378  
5 PS2  Shining Force Neo  Sega  18,352  81,127  
6 PS2  Memories Off After Rain Vol. 3  Kid  17,845  new  
7 PS2  Shin Sangoku Musou 4  Koei  16,853  841,657  
8 GBA  Rockman EXE 5 Team of Colonel  Capcom  12,028  142,000  
9 DS  Egg Monster HERO  Square Enix  11,647  42,866  
10 PSP  BLEACH ~Heat The Soul~  SCE  10,457  47,135  

DS on top of PSP again this week...the tide is shifting  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 08, 2005, 07:04:57 AM
And this is just with some new colors and Kirby of all games...Can't wait till Mario Kart, Jump Super Stars, and Pokemon come out (we'll also see what Nintendogs can do)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on April 08, 2005, 07:40:24 AM
I think nintendogs is a potential million seller.  no joke.  
I find if funny that psp software sales have no staying power at all.  Even Tales didn't stay on the charts long.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 08, 2005, 08:05:01 AM
Nintendogs could seriously be as big as Tamagotchi, Pokemon and the Sims used to be if marketed right.

And therein lies the tragedy.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 08, 2005, 08:15:26 AM
Well the low game sales proves the PSP is selling in Japan not as a gaming machine but as a multimedia gadget.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 08, 2005, 08:18:34 AM
I agree about Nintendogs (said the same thing a few days ago). Especially in Japan. It just has the potential.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on April 08, 2005, 11:25:34 AM
It isn't just a Kirby game, of course. This is the DS's first game that is as innovative as it is familiar, and it's well polished and fleshed out. This is what the DS should have launched with. Software sells systems. Well, besides early adoption of Sony's consoles.

Very positive impressions at NTSC-UK.

I know you weren't trying to downplay Kirby's importance, just wanted to point out why I think it's helping the system.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 08, 2005, 05:23:05 PM
PSP games aren't selling well most likely because people are only buying the system for it's multimedia capabilites.  And this is why I believe it's a little bit unfair (as of now) to say PSP and DS are competing, because it's sort of like saying iPod and GameBoy are competing. Maybe if Nitnendo could bundle Play-yan and V-pocket in every DS package it would be more fair to say DS and PSP are competing.

Also - word has gone out that PSP sold 600,000 units in its first week, which outperfomred DS's American launch. Now before people spat off "OMFG Nintedno is doomed!1", keep in mind DS had a 500,000 shortage, so it simply couldn't outsell 500,000 units, as opposed to PSP, which could.

I'm sure if Nintendo had a million stock of DS's, then they could outsell PSP's American launch! But PSP's US launch is still outstanding, especially considering it's not even the holiday season.  

Also keep in mind, launch sales don't determine the future of a system AT ALL. To me, personally, this seems very much like the GameCube vs. PS2 battle. PS2 = DS and GameCube = PSP. PS2 launched with mediocre games, but then later gave birth to fantastic games, which is the same case with the DS. Then GameCube came along and outperformed PS2's launch in terms of both software and sales.  

But back to the subject of Japan, I am wondering how long DS can outsell PSP. I'm hoping it can outsell PSP for at least 4-6 weeks.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on April 08, 2005, 10:26:06 PM
I think with new colors and the New Pokemon blue DS the psp is going to be behind the DS for a while.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 09, 2005, 08:28:31 AM
Don't forget Electroplankton is out this week. Never underestimate the power of a surprise pop culture phoenominon in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on April 09, 2005, 07:16:40 PM
The DS will definately win on the Japanese front, however, the US front will be a tough battle only because Nintendo loves Japan more than they love America.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 09, 2005, 07:28:02 PM
Since PSP outsold DS 10 weeks in a row, I do NOT think it's safe to say "DS definately has the Japanese front".
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on April 09, 2005, 07:37:05 PM
Sony dominates in Japan more than any other region. Somehow people always overlook it, but NA has the greatest diversity in terms of hardware sales. It's a good indicator of worldwide sales for this generation.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on April 10, 2005, 03:15:35 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: TVman
The DS will definately win on the Japanese front, however, the US front will be a tough battle only because Nintendo loves Japan more than they love America.


Heck, judging by this last month, they now love Europe more than the US =p

The japanese situation is interesting tho...over there, unlike everywhere else, they have quality DS games, and a decent number of them at that.
I would hope the DS sales would pick up there on the strength of a few awesome new releases...would be depressing otherwise that the PSp with its band of ports (Im referring to games like the literally ported RPGs folks, I know the PSP has some cool new games as well) would worm their way closer to those people's hearts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 10, 2005, 05:27:30 PM
Well the DS has actually outsold the PSP for the last two weeks in Japan. So it looks like its starting to build momentum again. Only time will tell. The PSP is playing catch up in the US, Japan, and Europe. So Sony has an uphill battle. They experience what Sega did with Dreamcast. They have the better lineup right now but the DS is selling anyway. Karma....I love it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 14, 2005, 12:56:43 PM
1. PS2 - Mobile Suit Gundam: 1 Year War - Bandai - 159,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 - Saint Seiya - Bandai - 89,000 (NEW)
3. PS2 - Pro Baseball Spirits - Konami - 55,000 (NEW)
4. PS2 - Tekken 5 - Namco - 44,000 (218,000)
5. PS2 - Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution - Konami - 24,000 (330,000)
6. NDS - Touch! Kirby (Kirby Canvas Curse) - Nintendo - 20,000 (128,000)
7. PS2 - Baldrforce Exe - Alchemist - 12,000 (NEW)
8. PS2 - Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator - SCEI - 10,000 (169,000)
9. PS2 - Yamato - Bandai - 9,000 (NEW)
10. PS2 - World Rally Championship 4 - Spike - 9,000 (NEW)

Media Create

PS2 = 9
DS = 1
(NEW) = 6

GC & PSP make no appearance
but when was the last GC game released?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris1 on April 14, 2005, 01:22:19 PM
WOW, thats crazy, the whole list is all ps2!  Japan really is sony land
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clevelandst124 on April 14, 2005, 02:09:10 PM
If those are real, Electroplankton must have bombed pretty hard to not sell at least 9k in it's first week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 14, 2005, 06:45:19 PM
Kirby is going well. Yeah...I'm actuall surprised Plankton bombed. I can't see that happening. But I guess if they're true it is. Sadly

Where are system numbers? I bet DS outsold PSP again.

Is this the week of Nintendogs coming out? And is it true they're doing it as a DS/Dogs pack? If so expect numbers to skyrocket. I expect this to be huge...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 14, 2005, 06:48:22 PM
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If those are real, Electroplankton must have bombed pretty hard to not sell at least 9k in it's first week.

I'm pretty sure that was number 11 or around that, but yeah, not an amazing start. It might have long legs though.

DS did outsell the PSP again, hardware sales:

PS2 - 37,870
DS - 30,028
PSP - 28,848
GBASP - 13,693
GC - 3,406
GBA - 347
Xbox - 315

Nintendogs is coming...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 14, 2005, 06:53:29 PM
Well, Another Code didn't boost DS sales, and neither did ElectroPlankton, but when Kirby is released, suddenly DS sales boost. DS has confirmed a sad truth. People won't buy new, original products, they'll only buy the "big" franchises. Awsome games like Ico, Viewtiful Joe, or Beyond Good & Evil never sold well, even thought they were great games. But then Halo 2 and Resident Evil 4 come along and sell like hotcakes.

It's sad.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 14, 2005, 06:59:50 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: clevelandst124
If those are real, Electroplankton must have bombed pretty hard to not sell at least 9k in it's first week.

Who the hell cares?  The game probably had a 4-figure budget...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 14, 2005, 08:29:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
Well, Another Code didn't boost DS sales, and neither did ElectroPlankton, but when Kirby is released, suddenly DS sales boost. DS has confirmed a sad truth. People won't buy new, original products, they'll only buy the "big" franchises. Awsome games like Ico, Viewtiful Joe, or Beyond Good & Evil never sold well, even thought they were great games. But then Halo 2 and Resident Evil 4 come along and sell like hotcakes.

It's sad.

Uh... Kirby DS is VERY new and original. Oh, and it wasn't Kirby that caused the hardware sales spike, it was the new colours. More colours combined with Nintendogs coming out next week should make it a huge week for DS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 14, 2005, 09:18:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Quote

Originally posted by: clevelandst124
If those are real, Electroplankton must have bombed pretty hard to not sell at least 9k in it's first week.

Who the hell cares?  The game probably had a 4-figure budget...
Notwithstanding, they DID expect it to do better than this...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 14, 2005, 09:57:31 PM
Yes, Kirby is original, but it has the famous Kirby name. Kirby is huge in Japan.

Who's ever heard of Another Code? ElectroPlankton?

It was the new colours and Kirby that boosted DS sales. Note how the game is still selling well (fairly).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on April 14, 2005, 10:21:09 PM
Another Code sold ok.  You can't get Pokemon numbers with every single game.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clevelandst124 on April 15, 2005, 01:14:43 AM
Who cares about electroplankton?  I thought this was a sales thread where we discussed the sales of the ds systems and the games.  Or is that only the ds games that do well?  

And I understand that the game didn't orignally cost that much to make.  But Nintendo put alot of advertising behind this game.  They had that special EP ds giveaway and media day to play with the game.  Clearly they wouldn't have done this for a game they thought wouldn't have any effect on thier sales.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Miyamoto Osaki on April 15, 2005, 02:24:28 AM
I guess its safe to say, Nintendo has a bright furture, unless PSP does a snecky (very unlikly)
The DS really needs to elimiante PSP before it starts to get hectic
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on April 15, 2005, 12:59:54 PM
American hardware numbers, from the Gaming-Age forums.

The PSP apparently sold 620,000 units in March. It launched on the 24th, so that's an 8-day total. It sold 1.1 million games, so that's an attach rate of 1.77.

They don't say how much the DS sold in March, but they say that it sold 428,000 so far this year, which is useful, because DS numbers have been mysteriously absent lately. This means that combined with the 2004 total, the DS is now at 1,653,594 in America (which seems kinda low, I thought people were saying it had broken 2 mil in America a while back).

PS2: 495,000
Xbox: 227,000
GCN: 94,000

No GBA numbers mentioned.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 15, 2005, 01:30:37 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Miyamoto Osaki
I guess its safe to say, Nintendo has a bright furture, unless PSP does a snecky (very unlikly)
The DS really needs to elimiante PSP before it starts to get hectic


Snecky? O_o
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on April 15, 2005, 03:16:28 PM
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Who the hell cares? The game probably had a 4-figure budget...


I for one care, as well as the rest of us in the North American gaming community who acknowledge gaming as an art form; this is a brilliant concept and the fact that the japanese aren't buying into it really worries me that I wont see those loveable Plankton stateside.

unless of course you mean that the 4-figure budget would limit the marketing , thus yielding weaker initial sales, in which case i credit your genius

^_^
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 15, 2005, 08:29:58 PM
I really dont understand why there are such low numbers for the DS, I also thought it had surpassed the 2 million units.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on April 16, 2005, 03:22:41 PM
Forgive me if I'm not going to trust numbers posted on the Gaming-Age forums at this present time.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on April 16, 2005, 04:11:42 PM
those numbers are crazy wrong.  Looking back at old sales data I know the numbers are wrong.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on April 16, 2005, 04:44:09 PM
Well it's a rather crappy forum, and I honestly don't trust the moderation there, but I don't immediately suspect their users of making up false data (although that's always a concern with "leaked" info). I just don't know of any other places to find NPD numbers.

The numbers sonycowboy posted (and yeah, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, despite having a Sony-themed username) say...

Quote

2004 Nov - 479,695
2004 Dec - 745,899

2005 Jan - 152,091
2005 Feb - ???
2005 Mar - ???

2004 Total - 1,225,594
2005 so-far - 428,000


I found some useful numbers from a Nintendo press release here

It says that the DS (which launched on Nov 21) sold-through more than 500,000 units, and had more than a 90% sellout rate (IIRC it had 550,000 shipped) in it's first week alone.

That doesn't match the leaked NPD number, which says less than 500,000, in more than one week.

They also say it broke 1,000,000 sold-through by the time of the press release, Dec 21. That roughly fits the NPD leak.

Also (and here's a neat bit), they say the shipments to USA and Japan would be 2.8 million by the end of 2004. According to the Media Create numbers, the DS sold a hair under 1.5 million by the end of the year in Japan. That would leave only 1.3 million possible for America.

If I had to guess, I'd say that the previous NPD leaks might be a little low, but are probably about right.

428,000 since December seems pretty good, considering that it's the slowest time of the year, but it just seems odd that the number stream dried up, around the DS specifically, and the phrase "almost two million" started getting tossed around in it's place.

My only guess is that maybe the DS got to it's current "almost two million" level back in early February, making the rumors basically true, and then the DS sold almost nothing in March in the face of the one-two punch of a slow time in the industry, and Sony's ground shaking launch hype. Nintendo really didn't put anything out there to try and "fight" the PSP launch, so it wouldn't be a surprise.

If that's how it played out, and the DS was on it's heels more than we realized, now would be a very good time for the DS to deliver a big game (as if there's ever a bad time for one of those). Or some big news. E3 can't come fast enough.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 16, 2005, 09:57:52 PM
NPD doesn't count Toys'r'us, that's enough to make a 5% difference.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 16, 2005, 10:09:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
NPD doesn't count Toys'r'us, that's enough to make a 5% difference.
Why??
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 16, 2005, 10:22:47 PM
Or Walmart.

Here's the total sales of DS software so far according to NPD data.

Super Mario 64 DS    -   948,892
Spider-Man 2         -   304,544
WarioWare: Touched!  -   202,176
Asphalt Urban GT     -   190,030
Madden NFL 2005      -   171,199
The Urbz         -   155,361
Yoshi's Touch & Go   -    94,069
Ridge Racer DS       -    81,856
Feel The Magic XY/XX -    61,708
Pokemon Dash         -    59,985
Tiger Woods PGA 2005 -    50,497
Robots               -    50,003
Mr. Driller          -   46,643
Ping Pals            -    37,380
Rayman DS            -    22,270
Zoo Keeper           -    21,999
Sprung               -    21,705
Retro Atari         -   13,974

The top selling GBA games overall:

Super Mario Advance 2  - 2,437,305
Pokemon Ruby - 2,316,845
Pokemon Sapphire - 2,076,324
Super Mario Advance - 2,075,574
Mario Kart Super Circuit - 2,027,327
Super Mario Advance 3 - 1,673,303
Pokemon Fire Red - 1,359,230
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 1,349,428
POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP - 1,180,118
YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 - 1,145,903

NES Classics total sales:

Super Mario Bros  -   494,895
Zelda             -   326,030
Donkey Kong       -   278,513
Dr. Mario         -   196,259
Pac-Man           -   186,962
Zelda II          -   173,919
Metroid           -    84,527
Excitebike        -    78,696
Castlevania       -    76,314
Ice Climber       -    53,687
Bomberman         -    51,320
Xevious           -    37,733
      
NES Classics Total - 2,038,855
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on April 16, 2005, 10:56:12 PM
Quote

Why??

Because NDP can't hang out in every store in America, spying on people and physically counting every hardware/software piece that gets sold every month. They make deals with stores to get a look at their computer records.

Walmart and a couple other stores refuse to play along with NPD, or maybe they just ask for unreasonable amounts of money.

NPD supposedly accounts for that though. They extrapolate what they can't confirm.

Most good political polls only contact a few thousand people and then they extrapolate a few million. And they do a pretty good job of it. If NPD "only" has something like 75% of the industry's sales known to them as undeniable fact, you'd think their estimates would be pretty reliable.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 16, 2005, 11:35:38 PM
They can be fairly certain by doing that, but still, it is by no means an exact science. Would you happen to know the percent error involved, because it may not seem like it, but just a bit of difference between actual and estimated data could make a lot of difference
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 17, 2005, 08:30:53 AM
Whoa, Mario DS is going to become a million seller!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on April 17, 2005, 01:49:14 PM
Quote

NPD supposedly accounts for that though. They extrapolate what they can't confirm.


I just hope they don't assume that because it's selling well in the NPD-compliant stores, that it is selling well in the ones that aren't.  All three of the Walmarts closest to me have sold exactly one PSP combined. I don't know if Kmart counts on the NPD, but the two closest to me do not even stock the PSP, or they keep them locked in an inivisible case, because I can't seem to find where they are kept. (although they do stock the games).  I'm willing to bet the PSP numbers are significantly lower than what is reported.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Luigidude on April 17, 2005, 02:31:10 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
Well, seeing this thread has been up for quite a while now, lets discuss DS sales over in Japan.

And lets hope it will finally catch up to PSP in sales... considering it's been outselling DS for over 2 months now.


Ahh...but you forget that the DS almost sold out the first day
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 17, 2005, 03:32:14 PM
DS has won the last three weeks in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on April 17, 2005, 04:08:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
NPD doesn't count Toys'r'us, that's enough to make a 5% difference.



That's too bad... the TRU 90 percent off clearance would have caused more than a few amusing blips their february numbers since a ton of Dreamcast and N64 games got blown out for pocket change.

On a side note Sprung's numbers don't do it justice at all. It's not the best game ever but it's easily better than almost half the DS games out to date.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2005, 07:16:37 PM
Japanese software sales for April 11 - April 17:

1. PS2 Tengai Makyou III: Namida - Hudson - 87,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: 1 Year War - Bandai - 46,000 (205,000)
3. PS2 Pro Baseball Spirits - Konami - 24,000 (80,000)
4. PS2 Tekken 5 - Namco - 24,000 (242,000)
5. PS2 Saint Seiya - Bandai - 18,000 (108,000)
6. PS2 Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution - Konami - 14,000 (343,000)
7. NDS Touch! Kirby (Kirby Canvas Curse) - Nintendo - 10,000 (138,000)
8. GBA Rockman Exe 5: Team of Colonel (Mega Man Battle Network 5: Team of Colonels) - Capcom - 6,000 (156,000)

9. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 (Dynasty Warriors 5) - Koei - 6,000 (856,000)
10. PS2 Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator - SCEI - 5,000 (174,000)

Platform - This week's sales
PS2 - 30,572
PSP - 28,950
DS - 21,698
GBA SP - 10,529
GC - 3,376
GBA - 397

Xbox - 315

Media Create
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on April 22, 2005, 07:47:41 PM
I hear Puppy Times has sold around 80,00 copies already...its first day.
Wonder if that will generate more sales.

Ah screw it, combined with the new colors sales will likely double.

That pink DS is really, really nice =)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 22, 2005, 09:54:14 PM
Nintendogs could be the next Pokemon.

I hope.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 23, 2005, 02:45:17 PM
Now, why did PSP outsell DS this week? No reason? Hmm...

I guess it's safe to say PSP has Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 23, 2005, 02:59:53 PM
I think it's safe to say that you don't know what you're talking about.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: zakkiel on April 23, 2005, 03:18:12 PM
Quote

Most good political polls only contact a few thousand people and then they extrapolate a few million. And they do a pretty good job of it. If NPD "only" has something like 75% of the industry's sales known to them as undeniable fact, you'd think their estimates would be pretty reliable.
Good polling requires randomization. This sampling isn't random, and therefore there can be confounds. For example, Walmart may be more likely to sell cheaper hardware. No one can actually say what the margin of error is without doing a whole lot of looking at trend data for the sales from nonplayers to see if variations like these exist.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 23, 2005, 06:52:00 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
Now, why did PSP outsell DS this week? No reason? Hmm...

I guess it's safe to say PSP has Japan.

With DS's 1 million lead, and the fact it has GAMES people will buy a system for coming out for it, I guess it's safe to say Nintendo DS has Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2005, 10:20:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Blackknight131
I hear Puppy Times has sold around 80,00 copies already...its first day.
Wonder if that will generate more sales.

Ah screw it, combined with the new colors sales will likely double.

That pink DS is really, really nice =)


Quote

Here are the first day sales of new titles released in Japan on April 20 - 21.

Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song (PS2, Square Enix) - 140,000 units
Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki (GC, Nintendo) - 90,000 units
Nintendogs (NDS, Nintendo) - 80,000 units
Baseball Live 2005 (PS2, Namco) - 25,000 units


source - The-Magicbox.com
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 25, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
PSP certainly doesn't "have" Japan.  I have to admit it's doing inexplicably well considering it doesn't have a lot of new releases and most of its games don't seem to sell as well as the DS', but considering how one-sided the console wars usually seem to be over there, I think the DS vs. PSP is probably the closest battle Japan has ever seen.  It seems like a lot of people are buying PSPs as media player gadgets in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 25, 2005, 04:21:24 PM
and that sucks for sony... now see devs being idiots and start supporting more the psp even when its clear that the software doesnt sell.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on April 25, 2005, 05:27:30 PM
... and that sucks for Nintendo  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 26, 2005, 09:09:26 AM
Actually it sucks for everyone. Sony doesn't get game revenue, Publishers sell no games and Nintendo gets no games. Perhaps we'll see publishers dropping PSP support because of low software sales numbers...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Caterkiller on April 27, 2005, 08:28:03 PM
Well this week the DS's sales have sky rocketed to like 70,000 something because of Nintendogs. I havn't read anything about the PSP, but there is no way it has equaled the DS in its sales this week. If Nintendogs is as popular and great as it seems it may keep the DS at #1 for a nice bit of time. I just can't see the PSP completely taking over Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 27, 2005, 08:31:08 PM
I heard PSP sold 33,000 and DS sold 96,000 for the week. Nintendogs is HUGE!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kokoro on April 27, 2005, 11:45:12 PM
I think after a while the PSP hype will die down and the D.S. will outsell, I personally hate the PSP if I want an DVD player I'll buy a nice one, Or if I want a Mp3 player I will buy one, not one machine that has subpar performance
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on April 27, 2005, 11:53:46 PM
If the DS games are as fresh and compelling as Nintendogs apparently is, the DS will clearly be a very big success by all means.
Either way, the PSP will also sell very well...its path and strategy is clear and its multiple functionalities will find a sizeable number of fans. That in itself is fairly inevitable...a price drop will likely start the next stage of large-scale PSP sales.

But hey, if you dont care for a PSP then no worries either way as DS owners have an assload of cool games to look forward to: frankly I think the DS software library will, in a year's time, stand as an impressive entity once the current development cycle has seen through its output and the RPGs and shooters and online enabled games permeate the lineup.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on April 28, 2005, 01:45:53 AM
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Either way, the PSP will also sell very well...its path and strategy is clear and its multiple functionalities will find a sizeable number of fans.


<derail> I theorize that its multiple functions will be what makes the PSP totally unappealing to game developers.  I mean, the DS is pretty much a game-only device, even with those afterthought Play-Whatever things (as they should be... afterthoughts).  That means whoever has a DS is going to be buying mainly video games.  

The PSP, however is a game/movie/mp3 player that Sony can't decide what they want to market as.  I mean it mainly plays games (it is called the Playstation Portable for a reason), but also has built-in move playback and mp3 things, and those were not afterthoughts.  I heard that there will be more UMD Movies at the end of the summer than actual games for the PSP.  And Sony oddly won't shut up about the Ipod and keeps talking about taking that down instead of the Gameboy/DS (jeez eyes on the prize, guys).  That means it is very possble given it's multiple functions that people are buying a PSP without a game, or that they will buy very few games.  That's bad for Sony, that they lose money on the PSP itself and can't make any up in game royalties or their own software. But most importantly it's bad for 3rd parties.  They find themselves competing against music and movies alongside higher budgets for handheld games.

Now despite the DS's cheaper development, let's suppose the budgets for each system were about equal.  If you were a third party, which system would you make games for?  A machine with a higher installed base comprised of dedicated, game-buying customers, manufactured by a company who, aside from optional add-ons, promotes it as such?  Or a machine with a smaller, fragmented installed base that users may or may not buy games for, made by a company that can't decide what market it is in?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 28, 2005, 03:34:56 AM
NDS Nintendogs: Shiba and friends - Nintendo - 83,000
NDS Nintendogs: Dachs and friends - Nintendo - 53,000
NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and friends - Nintendo - 46,000

for a total of 182,000 copies.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2005, 05:42:51 AM
My lord! That's absolutely friggin fantastic! That's like over a 10th of all DS owners in what? The first WEEK!?

And...Naruto 3 placed number 3 on the list with 84,195 sold...so that's places 3-6 all DS games.

OMGZ!?



The actual numbers for the week:

1. Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song - 216,904 (PS2)
2. Fire Emblem - 102,073 (GC)
3. Naruto 3 - 84,195 (DS)
4. Nintendogs: Siba & Friends - 82,585 (DS)
5. Nintendogs: Dachs & Friends - 52,563 (DS)
6. NintendogS: Chihuahua & Friends - 45,826
7. Baseball Live 2005 - 43,852 (PS2)
8. Mega Man Zero 4 - 37,973 (GBA)
9. Mobile Suit Gundam: One Year War - 29,592 (PS2)
10. Tokyo Xtreme Racer: Zone of Control - 29,473

Other games of note:

14. Touch! Kirby (DS)
21. Made in Wario (DS)
24. Egg Monster Hero (DS)

And may I add the system sales for the week:

PlayStation 2 - (33,080)
PSP - (33,004)
GameCube - (8,329)
Game Boy Advance - (422)
Game Boy Advance SP - (10,820)
Nintendo DS - (96,191)
Xbox - (112)

That's 53% of the market share being DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 28, 2005, 06:03:50 AM
So Romancing Saga will again be a good game? Cool, can't wait!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on April 28, 2005, 01:11:41 PM
In unrelated news, DAMN those Xbox systems sold is low... great to see some more succesful DS games, though.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on April 28, 2005, 01:51:22 PM
Edit: ugh I was supposed to quote Kdr two posts above me... -__-

Heh, tho they had to turn to a remake of the very first one...nevertheless I havent had the pleasure of playing one of the legendary Romancing Saga games, this might serve as a nice segueway into the series.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on April 28, 2005, 02:00:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Deguello
Quote

Either way, the PSP will also sell very well...its path and strategy is clear and its multiple functionalities will find a sizeable number of fans.


<derail>Now despite the DS's cheaper development, let's suppose the budgets for each system were about equal.  If you were a third party, which system would you make games for?  A machine with a higher installed base comprised of dedicated, game-buying customers, manufactured by a company who, aside from optional add-ons, promotes it as such?  Or a machine with a smaller, fragmented installed base that users may or may not buy games for, made by a company that can't decide what market it is in?


That would honestly depend on what kind of game I was making. A game like GTA truly does not fit the general Nintendo-system owning audience as well as it does the general PSP-buying audience.
This is a conclusion reinforced by the actions of third parties this Gamecube generation (LucasArts, another chance!!).

However, I am not saying the DS does not have the potential to change that unfortuneate culture...it will need the right kind of games tho, and the likes of Metroid Prime Hunters, Another Code, Goldeneye, Castlevania and Age of Empires are a good indication of a more well-balanced system.

I do want to note tho, that the hardcore gaming crowd who loves their RPGs are almost guarunteed to have a DS in their future...the stable of japanese-style RPGs already slated for the DS is very impressive.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2005, 02:59:17 PM
The battle between DS & PSP - from the beginning

Here you go:

5th December 2004:-

NDS - 468,883

12th December 2004:-

NDS - 198,892
PSP - 160,019

19th December 2004:-

NDS - 221,625
PSP - 85,059

26th December 2004:-

NDS - 396,674
PSP - 107,217

2nd January 2005:-

NDS - 209,522
PSP - 129,957

9th January 2005:-

NDS - 108,561
PSP - 62,052

16th January 2005:-

NDS - 53,527
PSP - 64,602

23rd January 2005:-

NDS - 44,604
PSP - 66,543

30th January 2005:-

NDS - 43,226
PSP - 74,405

6th February 2005:-

NDS - 29,552
PSP - 48,781

13th February 2005:-

NDS - 26,205
PSP - 45,972

20th February 2005:-

NDS - 22,363
PSP - 38,314

27th February 2005:-

NDS - 26,761
PSP - 41,867

6th March 2005:-

NDS - 25,759
PSP - 47,633

13th March 2005:-

NDS - 26,537
PSP - 46,307

20th March 2005:-

NDS - 22,446
PSP - 43,644

27th March 2005:-

NDS - 55,825
PSP - 43,043

3rd April 2005:-

NDS - 43,023
PSP - 33,911

10th April 2005-

NDS - 30,028
PSP - 28,848

17th April 2005-

NDS - 21,698
PSP - 28,950

24th April 2005-

NDS 96,191
PSP 33,004


Totals:

DS - 2,171,902
PSP - 1,230,128

Difference - 941,774 in favour of DS.

Just catalouging the race
Its alot easier to see how things are going when its all neatly in one place
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on April 28, 2005, 03:05:27 PM
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A game like GTA truly does not fit the general Nintendo-system owning audience as well as it does the general PSP-buying audience.


It somehow fit the GBA's audience.   But you miss my point.  3rd parties generally put things on the market leader.  The DS is the market leader.  And even it were more even, the DS is selling more games because it is a mainly game-playing device.

And if you meant this to be a segue into saying "Nintendo is for kids," well, then, you're sad.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mT3 on April 29, 2005, 04:25:27 AM
why did the DS blitz sales this week?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2005, 06:01:22 AM
Nintendogs and Naruto.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 29, 2005, 06:37:41 AM
I think Deguello and Blackknight are both right.  I agree that developers may start cancelling PSP projects and moving to DS if the current sales trends continue, but I also agree that if I were specifically developing a game like GTA, I'd look to PSP.  Until DS has a good 20-30 million units, it's a Nintendo product with a low userbase, and that's not a friendly environment for ultra-violent third party games.

Oh yeah, and ROCK ON DS sales!!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Gremio on April 29, 2005, 06:41:56 AM
Wow, DS is 96K! Go Nintendogs!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 29, 2005, 08:59:47 AM
Quote

DS - 2,171,902
PSP - 1,230,128

Difference - 941,774 in favour of DS.
I'm assuming those are Japanese numbers, only, right?  

Anyone know about how many have been sold worldwide?  PGC said it was three million on 4/26.  The following day, GameSpot says the total number sold is five million.  Who's right?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 29, 2005, 09:31:38 AM
Yes - those are only Japan numbers (pretty damn impressive considering the fact that the PSP was released pretty close.

And Gamespot is right - the total is more than 5 million now (I don't know exactly what it is). The North American lead is even more because of the gap between releases.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 29, 2005, 09:34:18 AM
PGC said over 3 million, which certainly includes 5 million.  So they're both right.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Urkel on April 29, 2005, 08:57:26 PM
I think Nintendo reissued the press release and corrected the amount from 3 million to 5. And when is Jump Superstars supposed to come out in Japan? That game is bound to cause another spike in DS sales.

As for PSP games, I could've sworn I read that at least 2 PSP games have already been cancelled and moved to the PS2. Their names escape me.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on April 30, 2005, 11:03:42 PM
Naw, you won't see any "Nin-gay-do is teh Kiddee!!11" type responses from me...I actually love most of their software.

But anyway, I agree that third parties tend to shift thier focus to the market leader...I mean, cuz its obvious. However, I can understand at this juncture, this early time in the platforms life, for third parties to basically not worry about current installed user base and to bet on the platform that they feel best fits their game.

That said, some choices just seem aggravatingly unfair...like Command and Conquer for the PSP. RTS would seem to be such a sweet match for the DS. Oh well...guess thats one less game I would be inclined to support EA for =p

Jump SuperStars is due in the late Summer/early Fall...IN JAPAN, of course.
A good number of folks feel that due to some of the obscure characters, the game will not make it to these shores. However, the way I look at it: you got DragonBallz, you got Naruto, you got One Piece, you got Shaman King. All of those are airing in the States, and Dragonballz alone should be enough to get that game localized.
Of course, lets first see how good the game truly is...its NOT in-house Nintendo developed, tho surely they have a deep level of input for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on May 01, 2005, 10:27:57 AM
Does anyone know when Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicals DS will come out in Japan?

It's still in developement right? I haven't seen anything on this game since last E3.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 01, 2005, 05:35:40 PM
There has been no further information of the game following its announcement.

We can speculate tho right? =p

Its likely being developed by the same Nintendo-Q-funded/Square-offshoot team that made the GC game, and it would be fairly likely to have some snippet of it at E3. The name combined with its multiplayer nature would make a strong DS companion...especially in the shadow of the coming Online network launch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on May 07, 2005, 11:09:14 AM
Click here for a Sales Picture
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 07, 2005, 12:05:45 PM
nice graph!

www.GameScience.com has posted software sales for DS and PSP up to 4-11-05, basically DS software has sold 2,054,016 and PSP software has sold 1,168,173.  The sales don't count the recent release of Naruto 3 and Nintendogs, so it is needless to say that the DS software sales are even more marginally greater than PSP.  Although at this point the PSP most likely still have a higher tie ratio.

Hopefully publishers and developers notice this and start up more ds support or maybe even some jump shipping from psp to ds!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: thepoga on May 07, 2005, 01:33:17 PM
what's the lead the DS has over the PSP in the US?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2005, 12:24:23 AM
From magicbox:

Here are the sales figures of Nintendo DS game titles in Japan as of April 11, 2005.

Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) - 711,424
Sawaru Made in Wario (Nintendo) - 710,371
Pokemon Dash (Pokemon) - 323,741
Daigassou! Band Brothers (Nintendo) - 166,071
Catch! Touch! Yoshi (Nintendo) - 163,963
Touch! Kirby (Nintendo) - 127,690
Another Code: Futatsu no Kioku (Nintendo) - 104,114
Chokkan Hitofude (Nintendo) - 102,330
Kimi no tame nara Shineru (Sega) - 97,629
Puyo Puyo Fever (Sega) - 82,898
Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta (Spike) - 76,724
Pac Pix (Namco) - 70,514
Harvest Moon: Corobockle Station (Marvelous) - 56,987
Prince of Tennis: 2005 Crystal Drive (Konami) - 49,385
Egg Monster Hero (Square Enix) - 49,131
Mr. Driller Drill Spirits (Namco) - 47,976
Zoo Keeper (Success) - 45,412
Meteos (Bandai) - 39,232
Mahjong Taikai (Koei) - 34,545
Spiderman 2 (Taito) - 26,633
The Urbz: Sims in the City (EA) - 24,685
Kamen Genei Satsujin Jiken (Genki) - 10,254
Cool 104 Joker & Setline (Aruze) - 9,613
Electroplankton (Nintendo) - 5,545
Yakuman DS (Nintendo) - 4,791
Tiger Woods PGA Tour (EA) - 3,381
Space Invaders DS (Taito) - 3,249


Here are the sales figures of PlayStation Portable game titles in Japan as of April 11, 2005

Minna no Golf Portable (SCE) - 337,972
Ridge Racers (Namco) - 274,682
Shin Sangoku Musou (Koei) - 268,514
Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 157,043
Piposaru Academia (SCE) - 108,599
Metal Gear Acid (Konami) - 99,871
Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Daijiten (Namco) - 98,109
Gagharv Trilogy (Bandai) - 89,202
Doko Demo Issho (SCE) - 86,255
Mahjong Fight Club (Konami) - 77,137
Popolocrois Monotagari (SCE) - 70,364
Namco Museum (Namco) - 61,895
Armored Core: Formula Front (From Software) - 58,288
Bleach: Heat the Soul (SCE) - 52,140
Puyo Puyo Fever (Sega) - 49,345
Sargetchu! P (SCE) - 42,674
Lumines (Bandai) - 37,271
Vampire Chronicles: The Chaos Tower (Capcom) - 37,184
Rengoku: The Tower Purgatory (Bandai) - 36,424
Need for Speed Underground Rivals (EA) - 25,689
Soukyuu no Fafner (Bandai) - 25,622
Mahjong Taikai (Koei) - 15,264
Mobile Train Simulator + Densha de Go! (Onegakukan) - 12,861
Puzzle Bobble Pocket (Taito) - 11,943
Sangokushi V (Koei) - 9,910
AI Shogi (Marvelous) - 9,684
Shinten Makai: Generation of Chaos IV Another Side (Idea Factory) - 9,534
AI Mahjong (Marvelous) - 8,649
AI Igo (Marvelous) - 8,479
Kollon (Cyberfront) - 8,184
Wipeout Pure (SCE) - 5,772
Harukanaru Toko no Naka de: Iroetebako (Koei) - 1,559
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on May 09, 2005, 02:53:30 AM
All those sales figures would lead you to believe DS is whipping PSP's ass but sadly it's not...

I got a PSP a couple of days ago and though I still favor the DS, I must say the PSP is not a bad system...overpriced, sure, but I got it for free, so whatever.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 09, 2005, 04:14:48 AM
Quote

All those sales figures would lead you to believe DS is whipping PSP's ass but sadly it's not...

Come again? Yes, it actually is.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on May 09, 2005, 04:36:52 AM
Does anyone have more US DS sales figures.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 09, 2005, 07:45:05 AM
forgive me if my math is off, but

DS has 3,148,288
psp has 2,206,439
that's 941,849 more ds sales. and the DS has five less games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on May 09, 2005, 11:58:43 AM
The best part is these numbers do not reflect the recent Nintendogs madness and Naruto constant reign at the top of the Daily charts in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 09, 2005, 02:34:37 PM
Huh... Naruto 3 is recent? Hasn't there been an ad for importing it for months now?

"DS, man. DS, "

Figured as much... is it actually called Naruto 3 though? What kind of game is it?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on May 09, 2005, 03:48:13 PM
DS, man.  DS,
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2005, 10:10:09 PM

Japanese Daily Game Sales -  for those that have been wondering whats going on

04/30 sales

1 PS2 Romancing Saga: Minstrel's song Square Enix RPG 2005/4/21
2 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
3 NDS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 For DS Tommy ACT 2005/4/21
4 NDS Nintendogs Dachshund & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
5 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
6 GC Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki Nintendo SLG 2005/4/20

7 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: The One Year War Bandai STG 2005/4/7
8 PS2 Live baseball 2005 Namco SPT 2005/4/21
9 PS2 Professional baseball spirits 2 Konami SPT 2005/4/7
10 NDS Touch! Kirby Nintendo ACT 2005/3/24
11 GBA The Tower SP Nintendo SLG 2005/4/28
12 PS2 World soccer winning eleven 8 Liveware evolution Konami SPT 2005/3/24
13 PS2 King adventure Bitodarcnessenture Bandai RPG 2005/4/28
14 GBA Rockman 04 Capcom ACT 2005/4/21
15 PSP The derby time Sony computer entertainment SLG 2005/4/21
16 NDS Touch! Made in Wario Nintendo ETC 2004/12/2
17 PSP Shutoko Battle Vigour SPT 2005/4/21
18 GBA ONE PIECE dragon dream. Bandai RPG 2005/4/28
19 PS2 Tengai Makyou III: Namida Hudson RPG 2005/4/14
20 PS2 Tekken 5 Namco ACT 2005/3/31

05/01 sales

1 NDS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 For DS Tommy ACT 2005/4/21
2 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
3 NDS Nintendogs Dachshund & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
4 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21

5 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: The One Year War Bandai STG 2005/4/7
6 PS2 Live baseball 2005Namco SPT 2005/4/21
7 GC Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki Nintendo SLG 2005/4/20
8 PS2 Romancing Saga: Minstrel's song Square Enix RPG 2005/4/21
9 GBA Rockman 04 Capcom ACT 2005/4/21
10 PS2 Professional baseball spirits 2 Konami SPT 2005/4/7
11 PS2 King adventure Bitodarcnessenture Bandai RPG 2005/4/28
12 NDS Touch! kirby Nintendo ACT 2005/3/24
13 PS2 World soccer winning eleven 8 Liveware evolution Konami SPT 2005/3/24
14 NDS Touch! Made in Wario Nintendo ETC 2004/12/2
15 GBA The Tower SP Nintendo SLG 2005/4/28
16 PSP Shutoko Battle Vigour SPT 2005/4/21
17 GBA ONE PIECE dragon dream. Bandai RPG 2005/4/28
18 PSP The derby time Sony computer entertainment SLG 2005/4/21
19 PS2 Tengai Makyou III: Namida Hudson RPG 2005/4/14
20 NDS Harvest Moon: Korobockle Station Marvelous interactive SLG 2005/3/17

5/04 sales

01 PS2 Romance singing saga
02 NDS NARUTO - null To - the strongest ninja large concentration 3 for DS
03 NDS Nintendogs ? & ????
04 NDS Nintendogs ???? & ????
05 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & ????

06 PS2 Movement soldier cancer/gun dam one year war
07 PS2 Baseball live 2005
08 NDS Touch!Kirby
9 GBA Lock man zero 4
10 GC Fire Emblem
11 PS2 Professional baseball spirits 2
12 PS2 World soccer winning eleven 8
13 NDS Touches the Wario
14 GC Star fox Assault
15 PS2 Venture king ??? dark Ness century
16 PSP Derby time
17 NDS Super Mario 64 DS
18 GBA Pocket monster emerald
19 GBA The Tower SP
20 NDS Egg monster HERO

05/05 sales

1 NDS NARUTO the strongest ninja large concentration 3 for DS T
2 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends

3 PS2 Romance singing saga - ????????? -
4 NDS Nintendogs Duchshund& Friends
5 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & Friends
6 NDS Touch! Kirby

7 PS2 Movement soldier cancer/gun dam one year war
8 PS2 Baseball live 2005
9 GBA Lock man zero 4
10 PS2 Professional baseball spirits 2
11 GC Fire Emblem
12 PS2 World soccer winning eleven 8
13 NDS Touch made in Wario
14 PS2 Venture king ??? dark Ness century
15 GBA Pocket monster emerald
16 GC Star fox ASA Lu To
17 NDS Egg monster HERO
18 NDS Super Mario 64ds
19 GBA Rockman 5 team * of * kernel
20 PSP Derby time

05/06 sales

1 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends
2 PS2 Romancing Saga
3 PS2 Baseball live 2005
4 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam ~one year war~
5 NDS Nintendogs Duchshund& Friends
6 NDS NARUTO the strongest ninja large concentration 3 for DS T
7 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & Friends

8 PS2 World Soccer winning eleven 8 LE
9 GC Fire Emblem
10 PS2 Professional baseball Spirits 2
11 PSP Derby time
12 PS2 Tekken 5
13 PS2 Venture king ???
14 PSP Shotokyo Battle
15 NDS Touch! Kirby
16 NDS Sawaru Made in Wario
17 GBA Rockman Zero 4
18 PS2 Tengai Makyo 3
19 PS2 Hot Shot Golf 4 (The Best)
20 PSP Hot Shot Golf Portable

05/07 sales

01 PS2 Romancing Saga
02 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends
03 NDS NARUTO the strongest ninja large concentration 3 for DS T
04 NDS Nintendogs Duchshund& Friends
05 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & Friends

06 PS2 Professional baseball Spirits 2
07 NGC Fire Emblem
08 PS2 Baseball live 2005
09 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam ~one year war~
10 NDS Touch! Kirby
11 PS2 World Soccer winning eleven 8 LE
12 NDS Sawaru Made in Wario
13 PSP Derby time
14 GBA Rockman Zero 4
15 PS2 Venture king ???
16 NDS Havest Moon
17 GBA Dream venture of tea dog
18 NDS Super Mario 64 DS
19 GBA Pocket monster emerald
20 NGC Star Fox Assault

05/08 sales

01 PS2 Romancing Saga
02 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends
03 NDS NARUTO the strongest ninja large concentration 3 for DS T
04 NDS Nintendogs Duchshund& Friends
05 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & Friends

06 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam ~one year war~
07 NGC Fire Emblem
08 PS2 Baseball live 2005
09 PS2 World Soccer winning eleven 8 LE
10 PS2 Professional baseball Spirits 2
11 NDS Touch! Kirby
12 GBA Rockman Zero 4
13 NDS Sawaru Made in Wario
14 GBA Pocket monster emerald
15 PS2 Venture king ???
16 NGC Star Fox Assault
17 NDS Harvest Moon
18 GBA Rockman EXE 5: team of kernel
19 PSP Derby time
20 PS2 Tekken 5

sorry I  couldn't find sale numbers, just sale positions (stolen from GAF)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 09, 2005, 11:12:12 PM
More than 50% of the top games right now are playable on DS.

By the way if anyone wants to know where to see daily sales, here. Usually updates every day, except on weekends.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 10, 2005, 03:39:29 AM
A puppy game is the hottest thing since sliced bread...there is still hope for us yet.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 10, 2005, 05:33:36 AM
I cannot wait to see system sales because the games have actually gone up in ranking!

Nintendogs is the killer ap, Naruto too!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 10, 2005, 05:42:05 AM
You know this is a reason I want to live in Japan.  Cute colorful games are actually popular.  There is no way in America Nintendogs will do as good as it will do in Japan.  It is sad really America we can't get enough different ways to kill people.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on May 10, 2005, 07:44:59 AM
Has Jump Superstars been released yet?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 10, 2005, 07:59:49 AM
Nope, that's due in August, and it should be HUGE!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on May 10, 2005, 04:14:23 PM
Not to mention the new pokemon games, those are going to be released around fall, dont they?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on May 10, 2005, 04:28:58 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
Not to mention the new pokemon games, those are going to be released around fall, dont they?


Yeah, in November, right before Japan's holiday season shopping. Pokemon will most likely boost DS sales just like Nintendogs. The DS has it good for the rest of the year. I wonder when there will be a price drop, that will increase sales also.....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 10, 2005, 04:38:28 PM
Pokemon will most likely boost DS sales just like Nintendogs.

Understatement of the century?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 10, 2005, 07:00:50 PM
1 game will come to DS that will put this race out of hand forever.  Dragon Warrior.  Fear it.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on May 10, 2005, 07:22:43 PM
Man, very uplifting figures. Also great to see that Fire Emblem is holding up so well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 10, 2005, 07:22:50 PM
Are you talking about the Slime Mori Mori thing?

No idea what to think of that... is it big in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on May 10, 2005, 07:58:44 PM
The fall/pre-holiday season, as well as the shopping season, will be the deciding factors in the handheld race. With Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Pokemon etc coming out, it should give Nintento the edge, and that's not counting Jump Superstars..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 11, 2005, 06:34:46 AM
Dragon Warrior in Japan is like halo 2+GTA+FF in the states.  and the slime games are a part of that family.  everyone loves slime.  
The controllers are actualyl more comfortable than the dual shocks.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on May 11, 2005, 09:46:16 AM
Oops...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2005, 01:50:39 PM
Media Create - April 25 - May 01, 2005

No. / Title / this week (total) / publisher

1 KIDOU SENSHI GUNDAM: Ichinen Sensou PS2 - 33,906 (268,238 ) Bandai
2 Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3 for DS DS - 32,958 (117,153) Tomy
3 Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song PS2 - 31,037 (247,941) Square Enix
4 Nintendogs: Shiba and friends DS - 30,463 (113,048 ) Nintendo
5 Baseball Live 2005 PS2 - 24,154 (68,006) Namco
6 Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki GameCube - 22,221 (124,294) Nintendo
7 Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends DS - 19,971 (72,334) Nintendo
8 Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS - 18,483 (64,309) Nintendo

9  Rave Buster Darkness Century PS2 - 16,581 Bandai NEW
10 Spectral Force Chronicles PS2 - 12,285 Idea Factory NEW

System Sales --------------------------------

DS, 64,247 Sales
PS2, 40,471 Sales
PSP, 38,778 Sales
GBASP, 14,616 Sales
GC, 6,125 Sales
GBA, 448 Sales
Xbox, 271 Sales

--------------DS vs PSP-----------------

DS - 2,236,149
PSP - 1,268,906

Difference - 967,243 in favor of DS.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 11, 2005, 02:09:55 PM
What have we got for total Nintendogs sales?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2005, 02:41:38 PM
well according to those # above.....

trusty Mr. Calculator says

*drum roll*

Nintendogs total are....

*opens envelope*

Two hundred forty nine thousand, six hundred and ninety one 249,691

and we don't have the number for last week yet  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 11, 2005, 03:26:13 PM
Remember this is part of a two week Holiday in Japan (thus the long delay for numbers) so that could be affecting sales  (positively)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2005, 09:25:32 AM
Media Create - May 2 - May 08

Software:
1. PS2 Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song - Square Enix - 66,840
2. DS Naruto Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3 for DS - Tomy - 29,534
3. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam One Year War - Bandai - 27,552
4. DS nintendogs Shiba & friends - Nintendo - 27,481
5. DS nintendogs Dachs & friends - Nintendo - 19,183
6. DS nintendogs Chihuahua & friends - Nintendo - 17,949

7. PS2 Baseball Live 2005 - Namco - 17,889
8. DS Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 15,578
9. GC Fire Emblem Souen no Kiseki - Nintendo - 13,471
10. GBA Rockman Zero 4 - Capcom - 11,344


Hardware:

DS 67,863
PS2 38,629
PSP 33,981
GBASP 22,633
GC 5,655
GBA 431
Xbox 169


--------------DS vs PSP-----------------

DS - 2,304,012
PSP - 1,302,887

Difference - 1,001,125 in favor of DS.

Looks like the DS breaks a million sytem lead in japan, and it will only get worse in the up coming months

p.s. system #'s are incomplete, I will update later when the rest are posted

   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on May 12, 2005, 10:09:13 AM
Wow.  315,000 in total sales for Nintendogs.  WTG.  

Out of curiosity, which dogs are included in Shiba & Friends?  Why is it outselling the other two by a significant margin?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Grant10k on May 12, 2005, 10:45:12 AM
(like Nelson from Simpsons Haaaaa Haaaa
PSP games arn't even on the list
Quote

Out of curiosity, which dogs are included in Shiba & Friends? Why is it outselling the other two by a significant margin?

Quote

Dachshund and Friends Version
- Mini Dachshund
- Mini Schnauzer
- Pug
- Yorkshire Terrier
- German Shepherd

Chihuahua and Friends Version
- Chihuahua
- King Charles Spaniel
- Labrador Retriever
- Beagle
- Shihtzu

Shiba and Friends Version
- Shiba
- Mini Pinscher
- Welsh Corgie Puppy
- Shetland Sheepdog
- Toy Poodle


I think it's the Poodle, I myself would get the Chihuahua version, for the Beagle and the Lab, and mabey the Chihuahua (chihuahua is ackward to type)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 12, 2005, 10:48:46 AM
the cutest ones! (that's the version I have) I don't know the difference between a doberman and a german sheppard.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on May 12, 2005, 04:31:32 PM
I definately want the Shiba too... but I think I might get Dachshund also and try to get my dad interested in it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 12, 2005, 05:01:10 PM
All the dogs are in all the versions...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: thepoga on May 12, 2005, 05:39:36 PM
but which one to start out with... hmm.... I would choose the Shiba. That dog looks so cool!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2005, 08:16:55 PM
The complete and updated #'s for Japan are up now!!!

**scroll up**
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on May 13, 2005, 02:26:43 AM
I don't know the difference between a doberman and a german sheppard.

That's easy. The Doberman's owner has a shaved head and wears army pants and boots.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 13, 2005, 02:56:16 AM
Those are great numbers. holding just below 70 twice in a row is great. And they took back the million unit lead
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2005, 09:26:32 AM
April NPD #'s

April Hardware Sales

PSP = 351,000
PS2 = 332,000
Xbox = 153,000
GCN = 63,000
GBA/DS = 250,000 (approx)


April Top 25 Software Sales

US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher

1 XBX DOOM 3 COLLECTORS ED Activision
2 PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two Interactive
3 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
4 XBX DOOM 3 Activision
5 XBX T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft
6 XBX MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two Interactive
7 XBX WWE WRESTLEMANIA 21 THQ
8 XBX JADE EMPIRE LIMTED ED LucasArts
9 XBX JADE EMPIRE LucasArts
10 PS2 LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
11 PS2 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony
12 PSP NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS Electronic Arts
13 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts
14 XBX LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
15 PS2 T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft
16 PSP TWISTED METAL:HEAD ON Sony
17 PS2 DYNASTY WARRIORS 5 Koei
18 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z: SAGAS Atari
19 XBX UNREAL CHAMPIONSHIP 2 Midway
20 PS2 MX VS ATV UNLEASHED THQ
21 PSP UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD Sony
22 PS2 TEKKEN 5 Namco
23 PS2 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 2 Electronic Arts
24 PSP RIDGE RACER Namco
25 GBA LEGO STAR WARS Eidos

Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.


PS2

1 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take-Two Interactive 11,823,380 $ 238,443
2 GOD OF WAR Sony 9,073,448 $ 182,571
3 LEGO STAR WARS Eidos 4,787,039 $ 120,296
4 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony 4,111,851 $ 82,796
5 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts 3,591,877 $ 120,319


XBOX

1 DOOM 3 COLLECTORS ED Activision 13,079,850 $ 220,454
2 DOOM 3 Activision 8,081,774 $ 164,258
3 T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft 8,071,464 $ 164,022
4 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take-Two Interactive 7,892,765 $ 159,325
5 WWE WRESTLEMANIA 21 THQ 5,423,751 $ 108,712


GCN

1 DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS Nintendo 2,086,199 $ 38,379
2 DRAGONBALL Z: SAGAS Atari 1,248,139 $ 31,745
3 STAR FOX: ASSAULT Nintendo 1,139,895 $ 23,014
4 MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC Nintendo 1,029,009 $ 20,668
5 RESIDENT EVIL 4 Capcom 826,130 $ 16,445


Handhelds

PSP NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS Electronic Arts 3,933,665 $ 79,010
PSP TWISTED METAL:HEAD ON Sony 2,808,298 $ 70,544
PSP UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD Sony 2,551,429 $ 64,144
PSP RIDGE RACER Namco 2,195,410 $ 55,082
GBA LEGO STAR WARS Eidos 2,184,754 $ 74,831


Its a much differnt market in the US than it is in Jpn.

we'll have to see what happens when Nintendo actually releases some games over here.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2005, 10:29:01 AM
Japanese sales #'s - May 09 - May 15

Software Charts - This Week | Total Sales

1.) Front Mission Online (PS2, Square Enix) - 27,053 | NEW
2.) Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song (PS2, Square Enix) - 23,921 | 338,702
3.) Eternal Atelia: At the End of this Earth (incl. Limited Edition) (PS2, XUSE/Nippon Ichi Software) - 12,148 | NEW
4.) Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends (NDS, Nintendo) - 12,062 | 152,591
5.) Baseball Live 2005 (PS2, Namco) - 10,452 | 96,347
6.) Mobile Suit Gundam: One Year War (PS2, Bandai) - 9,677 | 305,467
7.) Nintendogs: Dachs & Friends (NDS, Nintendo) - 8,370 | 99,887
8.) NARUTO: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (NDS, Tomy) - 8,273 | 154,960
9.) Nintendogs: Chihuahua & Friends (NDS, Nintendo) - 7,941 | 90,199

10.) Derby Time (PSP, SCE) - 5,904 | NEW

Hardware Charts - This Week | Last Week | Total 2005 Sales

1.) PlayStation 2 - 27,503 | 38,629 | 894,956
2.) Nintendo DS - 26,583 | 67,863 | 834,003
3.) PSP - 25,438 | 33,981 | 856,073
4.) Game Boy Advance SP - 7,865 | 22,633 | 310,626
5.) GameCube - 2,457 | 5,655 | 107,686
6.) Game Boy Advance - 796 | 431 | 10,801

7.) Xbox - 217 | 169 | 6,746 < To date: 467,488 >

Media Create

--------------DS vs PSP-----------------

DS - 2,330,595
PSP - 1,328,325

Difference - 1,002,270 in favor of DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on May 22, 2005, 09:42:31 PM
Jesus the NPD figures are painful to watch >_<! I cant believe the psp outsold the GB SP and the DS combined...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on May 22, 2005, 09:50:01 PM
Well, that was the PSP's second month, and they're finishing off their million-unit launch shipment.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on May 27, 2005, 05:54:00 AM
I just looked threw the top 50 Japanese games and the winner is

Nintendo DS with 11 titles,

Gameboy Advance with 11 titles,

PSP with 5 titles,

Although the PSP is continuing to sell, not as well as DS, the games for the PSP system seem to be left on the shelves by the Japanese public.

Source      Media Create    ??? side of site
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2005, 07:33:50 AM
Japanese #'s May 16 - May 22, 2005


--------------------software-------------------------
1 PS2 Yu Yu Hakusho Forever / FTG / Banpresto / 79,498
2 DS DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain / ETC / Nintendo / 42,509
3 PS2 Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song / RPG / Square Enix / 26,965
4 PS2 Vampire Darkstalkers Collection / FTG / Capcom / 11,831
5 DS Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends / ETC / Nintendo / 11,320
6 DS Bomberman / ACT / Hudson / 10,946
7 GBA DK: King of Swing / ACT / Nintendo / 9,798

8 PS2 Mercenaries / ACT / EA / 8,075
9 PS2 Baseball Live 2005 / SPT / Namco / 7,840
10 DS Nintendogs: Dachs & Friends / ETC / Nintendo / 7,435

11 DS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends  
12 DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3 for DS


--------------------hardware-------------------------
DS 29,808
PS2 27,370
PSP 24,122
GBASP 7,592
GC 2,403
GBA 282

Xbox 248

--------------------DS  vs PSP-----------------------

DS - 2,360,403
PSP - 1,352,447

Difference - 1,007,956 in favor of DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 08:31:17 AM
Way to go Sony: another day, another PSP sold at a loss without any software.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2005, 08:51:42 AM
Everything handheld in the TOP 50 after the TOP 10
Translated from Japanese (mostly)

PSP-----------------------------
17 PSP Derby time
21 PSP As for gong slot leading part sen shape
28 PSP GOLF portable of everyone
39 PSP Capital city high battle
44 PSP ??????… P!
48 PSP ???? of eta - near

DS & GBA------------------------------
11 DS Nintendogs (????????) chihuahua & ????
12 DS NARUTO- ??? - the strongest ninja large concentration 3forDS
15 DS Touch! ????

16 GBA The tower SP
24 GBA Pocket monster emerald (pokemon)
25 GBA Lock man zero 4 (megaman?)
31 DS ???????? which touches
32 DS Egg monster HERO

33 GBA Lock man ??? 5 team of kernel
34 DS Ranch story ????????????
36 GBA Dream venture of tea dog
37 GBA Large labyrinth of ???? mirror of star
38 DS ??????? 64DS
40 GBA Amusement king ??…???????? ???????? 2005
45 GBA Masterpiece selection! Persevering ???? 1 2 going princesses and ?????
46 GBA Pocket monster fire lead-lead (wireless adapter bundled)
47 GBA ????????????
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on May 27, 2005, 01:59:31 PM
The PSP's #48 is Tales of Eternia.

Nintendo's #15 is Touch Kirby.

Yep, #25 and 33 are Megaman. Because he's "Rockman" in Japan, and they have that L/R interchangability thing.

#31 is Made is Wario.

#47 is Mario Party Advance.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2005, 11:20:03 AM
Media Create - May 23 --> May 29, 2005

Game Sales------------------------------------------
1 PS2 Namco X Capcom / Namco / 87,223
2 PS2 Bewick Saga (incl. Limited Edition) / ENTERBRAIN / 84,625
3 DS SD Gundam G Generation DS / Bandai / 53,484
4 DS DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain / Nintendo / 47,861

5 PS2 Racing Battle: C1 Grand Prix / Genki / 39,019
6 PS2 Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana 2 (incl. Limited Edition) / Gust / 36,642
7 PS2 Hanjuku Hero 4: 7 Nin no Hanjuku Hero (incl. Limited Edition) / Square Enix / 32,766
8 PS2 Yu Yu Hakusho Forever / Banpresto / 20,198
9 GC Metroid Prime 2 Echoes / Nintendo / 16,105
10 PS2 Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song / Square Enix / 13,765

System Sales----------------------------------------
DS 39,687
PS2 35,143
PSP 21,996
GBASP 10,103
GC 2,512
GBA 235

Xbox 161

DS vs PSP--------------------------------------------
DS - 2,400,090
PSP - 1,374,443

Difference - 1,025,647 in favor of DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 03, 2005, 11:27:31 AM
An 18,000 lead is really quite big! The DS must be nearly caught up again for the year. It's million plus lead is growing steadily. Quite impressive how well that training stuff is doing too.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2005, 11:45:47 AM
Here are the rest of the Top 50 (nintendo related)

11 DS Nintendogs (????????) Shiba & Friends / Nintendo Co.
12 GC With NBA street V3 ??? ??? / Electronic Arts
14 DS Nintendogs (????????) Dachs & Friends / Nintendo Co.
15 DS Nintendogs (????????) Chihuahua & Friends / Nintendo Co.

17 GBA Wander donkey / Nintendo Co.
18 DS NARUTO: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3/ Tommy
21 DS The Bonn bar man / Hudson
24 DS Touch! Kirby / Nintendo Co.

34 GBA Pocket Monster(Pokemon) Emerald / Nintendo
39 DS ???????? which touches / Nintendo Co.
40 GBA The tower SP / Nintendo Co.
41 GC ?????????? it is green locus of the flame / Nintendo Co.
43 DS Egg monster HERO RPG ????? ?????
44 GBA Dream venture of tea dog / M tea o
46 DS Ranch story ???????????? / ?????????????
47 GBA Rock man(Megaman) ??? 5 team of kernel / Capcom
48 GBA Rock man(Megaman) zero 4 / Capcom
50 DS Mario 64 DS / Nintendo Co.


translation via Babelfish

edited for clarifications  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 03, 2005, 12:18:08 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
An 18,000 lead is really quite big! The DS must be nearly caught up again for the year.

It's already done so...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on June 03, 2005, 01:43:41 PM
Just a question about the world market(s)?

Ok, so the DS has totally won Japan now, but

Things seem not to well in the US right now,

In Europe it sold well at first, but what about now?

And in Australia it sold increadible at first, but what about now?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2005, 02:25:22 PM
well #'s for N.A. & EU are a little harder to obtain.

NPD doesn't release the rankings very often, as they make you subscribe to their info(several thousand $$$ a year)

but the April's NPD #'s(N.A.) are on the page before this one

Quote

Unfortunately, the game industry is much less open about sales data than other industries, like the movie industry. Whereas various sites list weekly box-office #s and lifetime box-office numbers for pretty much every movie out there, there is no easy way to determine such data for games.

The leading data collector in the U.S. for games is NPD Intellect (www.npd.com) They charge upwards of $15,000 per year to subscribe to their data, which provides detailed sales breakdowns, per title.

NPD periodically releases public top-10 lists for a given month or year, but they don't go deeper than the top 10, and they don't include sales figures (just a ranking).

For Europe, TRST is the main record keeper. Apparently, they have recently been bought by NPD. Google for 'NPD TRST'.
source
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on June 05, 2005, 08:20:57 AM
Anyone know how to get DS Australian numbers?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: e2games on June 05, 2005, 04:01:26 PM
I'll ask my rep for Aus DS sales figures when he comes in this week to drop off Pokemon Emerald stuff *yawn*...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 05, 2005, 05:20:57 PM
I can't find exact #'s for AUS but I can give you charts

Chart list

and this is where it originated from

http://www.gfk.com.au/

hope that helps

p.s. GOOGLE is your friend

I didn't know you could make clickable smiley faces
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 05, 2005, 09:02:45 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much the only place to get DS Austrlaian sales. Super Mario 64 DS did very well here, it was in the top three for a month or two, but now it's dropped off, I don't see any other game doing well here 'til Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros or Pokemon come out.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 06, 2005, 06:12:53 PM
Good to see Nintendo DS has surpassed PSP for system sales this year in Japan. As far as software, the DS is PWNING the shite out of PSP. Too bad the Cube is getting it's ass handed to it by everything but the GBA and Xbox though.

Here's a link for the Japanese sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 06, 2005, 07:56:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg

Here's a link for the Japanese sales.
I'm not quite sure where you think that link goes, looks like some advertising site, but if you want Japanese sales #'s they are littered all through this thread, including on this page

and as for a link to where the #'s come from, try the link below.

Media Create  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Gamebasher on June 07, 2005, 04:09:24 AM
Here is a newsarticle, detailing the latest success of the little two-screen Nintendo wonder (I don´t have one at present, but am more than happy to see Nintendo maintaining it´s topspot):

DS BEATS PSP !!!!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 07, 2005, 05:31:40 PM
Hmmm, that's wierd, maybe that site is block from this forum or something. Go to the console charts on the-magicbox.com to see what I was trying to post.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 08, 2005, 02:57:33 PM
here is a site that supposedly keeps track of U.K. & Euro #'s

I found this link in this very thread!!!  Who woulda thunk??
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 09, 2005, 08:03:52 PM
Media Create - Japanese Sales (May 30 - June 05, 2005)

Software Sales-----------------------------------

1 DS DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain / Nintendo / 30,349
2 PS2 Berwick Saga (incl. Limited Edition) / ENTERBRAIN / 25,239
3 PS2 Namco X Capcom / Namco / 22,698
4 PSP Hero Legend Gagharv Trilogy: Akai Shizuku / Bandai / 13,269
5 DS SD Gundam G Generation DS / Bandai / 12,538
6 PS2 Yu Yu Hakusho Forever / Banpresto / 11,681
7 DS Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends / Nintendo / 10,676
8 PS2 Racing Battle: C1 Grand Prix / Genki / 10,600
9 PS2 Hanjuku Hero 4: 7 Nin no Hanjuku Hero (incl. Limited Edition) SLG Square Enix / 10,053
10 DS Pachinko Slot! Fist of the North Star DS / Sega / 8,201

Hardware Sales-----------------------------------

DS 34,939
PS2 30,811
PSP 23,225
GBASP 9,859
GC 2,360
GBA 538

Xbox 205

DS vs PSP----------------------------------------

DS - 2,435,029
PSP - 1,397,668

Difference - 1,037,361 in favor of DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 09, 2005, 08:12:50 PM
Do I dare say it? It's happening...another 11,000 system lead. The DS is steadying or growing and the PSP is slowing.

THANK.
GOD.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 09, 2005, 08:21:27 PM
This is only in Japan though, I believe the sales number are a little different right now in N.A.
I'm still waiting for this months NPD #'s though
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 09, 2005, 09:25:54 PM
Well, I suppose that'll change in NA later on. The DS has many titles in the works, the PSP would be called dead if we went by Tim Buckley's definition (GTA. And what else?).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 10, 2005, 01:47:28 PM
There are a few good things, including a new Tales title, in development for PSP.   I wouldn't count it out yet, but I agree that the DS lineup for the year looks stronger.  I wish SquareEnix would release some new details on whatever they have planned for each system.

Go little DS, go!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on June 10, 2005, 09:21:26 PM
"Tales of Eternia" on the PSP is a port of a PSone game that got released in America as the poorly-named "Tales of Destiny 2".

Tales of Melfes got canned, and shifted to the PS2, where it became "Tales of Legendia".
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 11, 2005, 09:00:30 AM
BTW, Ruby, who's that girl in your avatar? She has exactly the same hairstyle as Naru from Love Hina...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on June 11, 2005, 05:35:39 PM
That's Showko (yes, that's the proper spelling). I'm going to cop out and say that she's the "end boss" of "Super Real Mahjong: Part 2", just because I think she's cute and like having her as my avatar.

The pic is from the website for Super Real Mahjong Dousoukai (Reunion) for the GameBoy Advance, a game that will never ever ever be seen on a Nintendo console in America, despite the fact that Seta/Rocket censored the game into oblivion just to get it on the GBA.

Naru's hairstyle is most instantly recognizable by the little antennae/feelers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 12, 2005, 01:25:16 AM
Naah, the front of her hair has (sorry, is there an english word for that? Never seen one, would be damn handy) EXACTLY the same shape as Naru's, down to the last line. I remember because it was a damn nightmare to get that hairstyle down when I made the Q3A version of her.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 12, 2005, 02:44:39 AM
I believe the section of hair located on the forward section of the head above the eyes and forehead is referred to as "bangs."
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 12, 2005, 08:20:46 AM
Ah, I always thought that referred to a specific hairstyle.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2005, 06:42:23 PM
to somewhat put this thread on topic

Japanese Daily Sales Rankings:

June 11, 2005

1 NDS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain (Nintendo)
2 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success)
3 PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto)
4 NDS Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends (Nintendo)
5 PS2 Kenka Banchou - special edition - (Spike)
6 GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous)
7 PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike)
8 NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
9 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain)
10 PS2 NAMCO×CAPCOM (Namco)
11 NDS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)
12 NDS SD Gundam G Generation (Bandai)

13 PS2 Killer7 (Capcom)
14 NDS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tommy)
15 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Live Evolution (Konami)
16 PS2 C1 GRAND PRIX (Genki)
17 PS2 Romance Saga (SquareEnix)
18 GBA Pocket Monster Emerald (Nintendo)
19 NDS Touch Made In Wario (Nintendo)
20 NDS Touch! Kirby (Nintendo)


June 12, 2005

1 NDS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain (Nintendo)
2 PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto)
3 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success)
4 GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous)
5 NDS Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends (Nintendo)
6 NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)

7 PS2 Kenka Banchou - special edition - (Spike)
8 NDS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)
9 NDS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tommy)

10 PS2 NAMCO×CAPCOM (Namco)
11 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain)
12 PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike)
13 NDS Touch! Kirby (Nintendo)
14 PS2 Romance Saga (SquareEnix)
15 NDS SD Gundam G Generation (Bandai)
16 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Live Evolution (Konami)
17 PS2 Killer7 (Capcom)
18 NDS Touch Made In Wario (Nintendo)
19 NDS Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star (Sega)

20 PS2 C1 GRAND PRIX (Genki)

June 13, 2005

01 NDS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain (Nintendo)
02 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success)
03 PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto)
04 GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous)
05 NDS Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends (Nintendo)

06 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain)
07 PS2 Killer7 (Capcom)
08 PS2 Kenka Banchou - special edition - (Spike)
09 PS2 Romance Saga (SquareEnix)
10 PS2 NAMCO×CAPCOM (Namco)
11 NDS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)
12 NDS SD Gundam G Generation (Bandai)
13 NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
14 NDS Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star (Sega)

15 PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike)
16 PS2 C1 GRAND PRIX (Genki)
17 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Live Evolution (Konami)
18 PS2 ??* Playing & white paper FOREVER (Bump rest)
19 NDS Touch! Kirby (Nintendo)
20 NDS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tommy)



It appears that the Brain game is washing up the competiton!!
yeah, yeah, I know,  bad attemp at a bad joke

I wonder how it will do in the US or EU, not to mention that ALL 3 Nintendogs seem to be in the top 15 weekly too.

LOL Poor PSP  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 14, 2005, 07:50:11 PM
DS software is absolutely dominating in Japan, people are buying almost EVERY DS game, third parties have got to be happy. Goemon and Famicom Wars DS should be on the chart next week, DS is unstoppable right now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 11:10:03 PM
Looks like the PSP might be history in two years. Sales in the US will probably slow down or get overtaken by the DS when all the games arrive.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 15, 2005, 12:16:13 AM
wow Famicom Wars is nearly being released in Japan!  I bet sales for that will be insane too.  I hope to see some nintendogs like ownage when it is released.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 15, 2005, 12:58:50 AM
I actually doubt that... well it depends, Gameboy Wars I & II (Advance Wars 1 + 2 in the same game) flopped hard there, that was released just last year I think, and it didn't sell more than 50,000, but that could have had something to do with the fact that Japan got it 3 years late, still, it was good value and I expected more. On the other hand I believe the old Famicom Wars games sold very well, and the fact that this carries the Famicom Wars name means it could also do well. It's a wildcard. Actually, the fact that it's a DS game ensures it will be on the charts.

August is when the next stage of ownage will take place, with Jump Superstars and Dragon Quest coming out, with more games that I forget. Then in November it'll be the final nail in the coffin, with the unstopable trio of Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and POKEMON.. and maybe New Super Mario Bros and Mario & Luigi 2 as well.. my god that will be insane!

The US is a completely different story, I believe the DS has a bit of a struggle there, people will look on the shelves and see lots of crappy movies and assume PSP has 10 times more games than DS. I wish Nintendo would hurry up and release more games in places that aren't Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Grant10k on June 15, 2005, 04:44:25 AM
Wow, that's awsome, there's not even 1 psp game on the entire top 20 list. An that stupid EBgames monkey told me that the psp would be nintendo's final undoing. (He said it so cheerfully too, that bastard)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 15, 2005, 05:09:41 AM
By the way BlackNMild2k1, where do you get those daily charts from? The only place I know is here, but they aren't translated very well. I'm thinking of documenting daily sales data from now on, for every day, and a better translated chart would be much better, because I can't  make out the real names of the games that i'm not following.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 15, 2005, 09:12:52 AM
Off-topic:  What's up with Killer 7 being released already in Japan?  And why is the PS2 version on the charts and GC isn't?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 15, 2005, 10:01:10 AM
Killer 7 isn't colourful enough for the average Nintendo fanboy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 15, 2005, 10:03:46 AM
Back on topic, why in the world is that DS Brain title on top?  I know it's a little less expensive, but jeez.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on June 15, 2005, 10:15:12 AM
God forbid Nintendo be right in trying out new kinds of games to attract non-gamers.

You think with this and Nintendogs, they might actually have a point?

Ian would have a heart attack.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 15, 2005, 10:18:27 AM
Killer 7 debuted at #5 for PS2, and number #7 for GCN, on the same day, June 9. The next day, June 10, the PS2 version slid down to #13 and the GCN version went off the chart completely, never to be seen again. The PS2 version is still flopping around though.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 15, 2005, 10:54:39 AM
No, you read me wrong Paladin.  I originally poked fun at this games long-ass title and now it's poking me in the face with it's completely random success.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on June 15, 2005, 11:02:07 AM
Heh... that's ok, I went off on a slight tangent anyway.

I'm surprised... I thought it was just a nice philosophy, I didn't actually expect immediate success.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2005, 11:45:59 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
By the way BlackNMild2k1, where do you get those daily charts from? The only place I know is here, but they aren't translated very well. I'm thinking of documenting daily sales data from now on, for every day, and a better translated chart would be much better, because I can't  make out the real names of the games that i'm not following.

I will never reveal my sources WHAAHAAAHAAA!! [/evil laugh]

I got it from GAF
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 15, 2005, 01:37:17 PM
"collaborative research center Kawasima thickly forges the professor" WHAT!?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 15, 2005, 01:43:14 PM
Famicom Wars should do at the very least decent, and stay on the charts for a while. But when Shonen Jump Superstars comes out, watch out - it will keep the DS lineup going until November.

Minna No Golf is tops overall for the PSP right - does anyone have any numbers on overall sales?  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2005, 06:39:01 PM
Japanese Daily Sales Rankings

June 14, 2005

1 NDS Takashi Tohoku University Kawasima brain training (Nintendo) ETC 2005/5/19
2 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success) RPG 2005/6/9
3 PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto) SLG 2005/6/9
4 NDS Nintendogs Shiba (Nintendo) SLG 2005/4/21
5 GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous) AVG 2005/6/9

6 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain) SLG 2005/5/26
7 PS2 Romance Saga (SquareEnix) RPG 2005/4/21
8 PS2 NAMCO×CAPCOM (Namco) SLG 2005/5/26
9 PS2 Kenka Banchou - special edition - (Spike) ACT 2005/6/9
10 NDS Nintendogs dachs (Nintendo) SLG 2005/4/21
11 NDS Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star (Sega)TBL 2005/6/4
12 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua (Nintendo) SLG 2005/4/21

13 PS2 World soccer winning eleven 8 live EVOLUTION (Konami) SPT 2005/3/24
14 NDS SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai) SLG 2005/5/26
15 PS2 C1 GRAND PRIX (Genki) SPT 2005/5/26
16 PSP Hero legendary (Bandai) RPG 2005/6/2
17 PSP Everybody Golf SPT (Sony) 2004/12/12
18 PS2 Semi - hero 4 SLG (????? * ?????) 2005/5/26
19 PS2 Killer 7 (Capcom) ACT 2005/6/9
20 NDS Touch! Kirby (Nintendo) ETC 2004/12/2

looks like PSP made the charts yesterday

Media Create Approximate Sales #'s

June 6-12

1. PS2 Metal Saga - Success - 63,000 (NEW)
2. PS2 Kenka Bancho - Spike - 39,000 (NEW)
3. PS2 Soccer Life 2 - Banpresto - 36,000 (NEW)
4. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 33,000 (153,000)
5. GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! - Marvellous - 24,000 (NEW)

6. PS2 Berwick Saga - Enterbrain - 11,000 (121,000)
7. PS2 Namco X Capcom - Namco - 11,000 (121,000)
8. PS2 Killer 7 - Capcom - 11,000 (OUCH)
9. NDS nintendogs Shiba & friends - Nintendo - 10,000 (197,000)
10. PS2 Shojo Gikeiden 2 - Wellmade - 9,000 (NEW)

p.s. Exact #'s(soft/hard-ware) should be released tomorrow night around midnight
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 16, 2005, 06:35:53 PM
It's officially a trend:

1. Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari  (PS2) - 63,219
2.  Kenka Bancho (incl. Limited Edition) (PS2) - 39,195
3. Soccer Life 2 (PS2) - 35,697
4. DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain (DS) - 32,589
5. Magister Negi Magi: Private Lesson Library Island (GBA) - 24,167
6. Berwick Saga (incl. Limited Edition) (PS2) - 11,453
7. Namco X Capcom (PS2) - 11,275
8. Killer 7 (PS2) - 11,253
9. Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends (DS) - 10,194
10. Shojo Yoshitsune Den 2 (incl. Limited Edition) (PS2) - 9,463
11. Nintendogs (DS)
12. Nintendogs (DS)
...
14. SD Gundam (DS)
...
16. Killer 7 (GCN)
...
22. Naruto (DS)
23. Touch! Kirby (DS)
24. DK: King of Swing (GBA)


SYSTEM
DS - 32,765
PS - 27,741
PSP - 21,476
GBASP - 8,522
GCN - 2,558
GBA - 623
XBOX - 131



   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on June 17, 2005, 06:04:33 AM
Wander Donkey is "Donkey Kong: King of Swing"
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 17, 2005, 08:19:45 PM
Daily Japanese Sales Rankings

Thu 16th June

1 PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 (Square Enix) RPG 2005/6/16 (NEW)
2 NDS Takashi Tohoku University Kawasima brain training (Nintendo) ETC 2005/5/19
3 NDS DS easy pulling dictionary (Nintendo) ETC 2005/6/16 (NEW)

4 PS2 Dog night ? secret principles boisterous dance (Bandai) ACT 2005/6/16 (NEW)
5 PS2 Kenka Banchou - special edition - (Spike) ACT 2005/6/9
6 PS2 Slotter UP 7 intense fighting! Street fighter II (???) TBL 2005/6/16 (NEW)
7 NDS Trauma Centre (Atlus) ACT 2005/6/16 (NEW)
8 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success) RPG 2005/6/9
9 PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto) SLG 2005/6/9
10 GBA Nonono puzzle (Nintendo) PUZ 2005/6/16 (NEW)
11 NDS Nintendogs shiba (Nintendo) SLG 2005/4/21
12 GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous) AVG 2005/6/9

13 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain) SLG 2005/5/26
14 PS2 Romance Saga (SquareEnix) RPG 2005/4/21
15 XB Jade Empire (Microsoft) RPG 2005/6/16 (NEW)  <---- O_O
16 NDS SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai) SLG 2005/5/26
17 PS2 World soccer winning eleven 8 live EVOLUTION (Konami) SPT 2005/3/24
18 NDS Nintendogs dachs (Nintendo) SLG 2005/4/21
19 PS2 NAMCO×CAPCOM (Namco) SLG 2005/5/26
20 PSP Everybody Golf (Sony) SPT 2004/12/12

Looks like an Xbox got a game on the charts, and above the only PSP game too

And the Dictionary debuts at no. 3!? well thats gotta hurt someones ego somewhere.......
Maybe with a translation dictionary some of those developers and finally translate some games in a decent timeframe.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 18, 2005, 06:37:27 AM
Trauma Center making the charts makes me happy!  I wonder if Nintendo's other "Brain" game due out this month will see that same success as Thick Professfor Forge Long Title.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 20, 2005, 12:46:17 AM
Sat. June 18

1  PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 (Square Enix)
2  DS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training(Brain Training) (Nintendo)
3  PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike)
4  DS Rakuhiki Jiten(Easy Dictionary) (Nintendo)
5  DS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo)

6  PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto)
7  DS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
8  DS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)

9  PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution (Konami)
10 DS Sawaru Made in Wario (Nintendo)
11 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain)
12 DS Chou Shittou Caduceus (Atlus)
13 DS Touch! Kirby (Nintnedo)
14 DS SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai)

15 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success)
16 DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tomy)
17 PSP Minna no Golf Portable (Sony)
18 GBA Pokemon Emerald (Pokemon)
19 DS Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)

20 PS2 Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song (Square Enix)

The Dictionary is @ #4 ..... and Wario Ware is back in the Top 10

Brain Training and Nintendogs are still going strong
Non-Games are the Best-Games?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 20, 2005, 02:31:47 AM
Hahaha, it's great to see all these "non-games" selling so well. What do you think of that Ian?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 20, 2005, 02:38:02 AM
Norton Systemworks regularly places in the UK charts so it's not that surprising.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on June 20, 2005, 03:31:47 AM
"What do you think of that Ian?"

*Resists urge to answer for Ian*
*Saves response for comparison with Ian's answer*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 20, 2005, 07:24:53 AM
"Hahaha, it's great to see all these 'non-games' selling so well. What do you think of that Ian?"

Well I suppose it's better than Nintendo losing money hand over fist on them.  Still I don't want them and thus don't want Nintendo wasting resources on them.  So I would consider this a bad thing in the sense that it gives Nintendo a financial reason to continue to pursue a target market that doesn't include myself.  I only want Nintendo to be successful so that they continue to release games I like.

However they still haven't released this type of game in North America and that's where the real money is so I wouldn't declare this a great idea yet.  I don't think this is a winning strategy for a console, even in Japan, so for Nintendo's sake the Rev better not have a similar focus.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 20, 2005, 07:39:02 AM
Quote

Still I don't want them and thus don't want Nintendo wasting resources on them.


Ian, for Pete's sake, you used to write huge diatribes on this very line of thinking.  Especially to Paladin, because he feels the EXACT SAME WAY about online gameplay.  You used to refer to people who said THIS EXACT PHRASE selfish and the cause of all of Nintendo's problems.  What happened to THAT Ian?


And whoa, is Wario Ware DS still in the Top Ten?  Jesus.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 20, 2005, 07:59:05 AM
I believe WW's success now can be attributed to the fallout of Nintendogs. The game brought in many new users, now those users are searching for more uses for their DS. WWT is probably the most non-gamer friendly out of the bunch.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 20, 2005, 08:24:56 AM
Quote

Still I don't want them and thus don't want Nintendo wasting resources on them. So I would consider this a bad thing in the sense that it gives Nintendo a financial reason to continue to pursue a target market that doesn't include myself.

Well it increases their marketshare. "Non-games" don't sell INSTEAD of "hardcore" games, they sell to people outside the userbase, they bring new people in = a larger userbase = more third party support = more games.

The only "non-game" that doesn't appeal to me is the dictionary.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 20, 2005, 08:54:35 AM
"Ian, for Pete's sake, you used to write huge diatribes on this very line of thinking. Especially to Paladin, because he feels the EXACT SAME WAY about online gameplay. You used to refer to people who said THIS EXACT PHRASE selfish and the cause of all of Nintendo's problems. What happened to THAT Ian?"

The concept of non-gamer didn't exist at the time I was against this line of thinking.  Usually when people say something like this they're talking about certain genres or styles.  In Paladin's case it was an extra feature which I felt just adds to a game.  This is slightly different.  This is the creation of products that aren't even really games at all.  I don't like sports games but I won't protest Nintendo making a sports game because it attracts more gamers to the userbase which attracts more third party support to create more games.  This attracts people who aren't gamers and thus encourages the creation of product for them.  This is like a different market entirely.

Before it was like we were comparing different types of music.  Now we're comparing music albums to books on tape.  I can deal with the creation of games I don't like.  But a shift into an entirely different product is worth getting upset about.  There's never been a situation before where Nintendo has dedicated focus to people who don't play or want to play games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on June 20, 2005, 09:21:05 AM
Bah, I like my Ian answer more.

"Well Nintendo might have a point about Japan, but if they think that's going to hold up in North America they're sadly mistaken. I'm sick of NCL making decisions that have an international effect. It's like they stopped making pizza in the US because the Japanese seem to prefer sushi. Nintendo needs to make both pizza and sushi. It needs to be an "and" company, not an "or" company. I shouldn't have to choose between them. Back in the SNES days we used to have both. This is just more proof that Nintendo's being short-sighted and profit-driven these days.

Besides, by appealing to non-gamers Nintendo is sacrificing the real gamers who stick with them through thick and thin. They still haven't made any real games I would buy a DS for yet. I hope this doesn't encourage them to use the DS business model for the Rev, because that would, well, suck."

Normally I wouldn't be this childish but after reading his post I couldn't help it. Sorry Ian, I'll stop being an ass now.

"This is the creation of products that aren't even really games at all."

By your definition, Ian. The reason you don't consider them to be games is because they don't appeal to your tastes. What if I told you that I thought online games weren't really games at all but bastardized graphical chat programs? Who are you to say that playing with a puppy isn't a game? How are brain teasers not games? You might not think of them as games, but other people do.

You're just as selfish as I am.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 20, 2005, 10:01:42 AM
That's an okay parody of me, Paladin.  You've got to work on the specific language and sentence structure a bit but it's not bad.

"The reason you don't consider them to be games is because they don't appeal to your tastes."

It's not so much I don't like them, it's that they lack key elements of what I think defines something as a videogame.  Like even if I do like them they don't provide me with the same type of enjoyment that a videogame does.  It's like how I don't think chess is a sport even though some people do.  To me it doesn't provide the same type of experience as playing something like volleyball does.  I don't mind chess but it's not a sport so if I go to gym class I don't expect or want to play chess.  When I buy a game system I expect and want to play what feels like a game.

"You're just as selfish as I am."

Only if you weigh our viewpoints as having equal merit.  I don't think I've ever said that the concept of not wanting Nintendo to focus on something you're not interested in is selfish.  I just felt that in your example you were because to me you were complaining about something pretty minor.  I'm not trying to start up that old arguement again, I just see focusing on non-gamers as a bigger shift in focus than adding online support to multiplayer games (I would consider a shift in focus to online-only gaming as very major however).  Some people have said that I want Nintendo to act exactly like Sony in order to be number one.  I've always responded that I don't and the reason being that I don't like Sony and I don't want Nintendo to be number one by no longer making games that interest me.  To me this non-gamer focus is the same thing.

If you were concerned about Nintendo making nothing but MMOs then I would agree with you.  But you're rejecting online gaming period which is why I don't.  Note how I'm not rejecting touchscreen gaming completely.  I'm merely rejecting a certain implementation of the concept, not the concept itself.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 20, 2005, 10:01:48 AM
More fuel for the fire

Sun. June 19, 2005

1  PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 (Square Enix)
2  DS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo)
3  PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike)
4  DS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo)
5  DS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)
6  DS Rakuhiki Jiten [Easy Dictionary](Nintendo)

7  PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto)
8  DS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
9  DS Touch! Kirby (Nintnedo)
10 DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tomy)

11 PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain)
12 DS SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai)
13 GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous)
14 DS Sawaru Made in Wario (Nintendo)

15 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success)
16 GBA Pokemon Emerald (Pokemon)
17 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution (Konami)
18 DS Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
19 DS Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken DS (Sega)

20 PS2 Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song (Square Enix)

11 DS titles
2 GBA titles

All 3 Nintendogs in the Top 10
Brain Training @ #2
Dictionary @ #6

that means 5 "Non-Games" in the Top 10
and not a PSP game in sight  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on June 20, 2005, 11:32:21 AM
That sale data is so beautiful I could cry... Only 7 titles not for the GBA or DS in the top 20. Great indeed.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 20, 2005, 11:49:44 AM
I think Nintendogs is 100% a game. The brain teasers aren't necessarily a game, but you do play them. The dictionary is a utility. The system has a touch screen, having utilities is only natural. They really need to bring the PDA software out now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 20, 2005, 01:00:17 PM
Uh, what was I going to say?

Oh yea, I think WW got a price drop; that's why it's back in the Top 10.

It most definitely isn't a "waste of resources". You think that widening your userbase and making a healthy profit is a "waste of resources"? So what if they are not traditional games, or the games you like, yet? The "real games" will come out soon enough. You saw E3 - Mario Kart, SMB, Metroid, all of those games that were announced - those aren't your view of "real games"? Yes, you will need to have a little patience until they come out, but so what? They're still there. Nintendo is making games for both the non-gamer and the gamer, and look at how well they've done so far with the DS. What you see as a waste in resources I see as a blessing. "I only want Nintendo to be profitable if they makes games for ME!" Um, OK then...

Look at it this way. The people who are buying Nintendogs etc right now; many are "non-gamers". But now they have a DS. Nintendogs will finish eventually, and then they'll have a $200 system lying there. You think that they won't buy ANYTHING else after playing "non-gamer games"? Now that they have a DS, they're more likely of buying more games and adding to Nintendo's profit. I mean, they're sure to hear of Mario Kart through advertising and all, and then when their friends tell them "Mario Kart is ONLINE!! I can play with you if yuo buy it!" then many of them will buy it - what else will they do with their DS? This is true for many "gamer" games. That is what Nintendo is trying to do; convert non-gamers so that they can have a wider userbase.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 20, 2005, 01:49:37 PM
"Nintendo is making games for both the non-gamer and the gamer, and look at how well they've done so far with the DS."

A lot of people bring up the DS to prove that there's no point in worrying over this non-gamer stuff and that Nintendo is making games for both groups and everything's cool.  Personally I see the DS as the whole reason why I'm concerned.  I'm not interested in the current DS lineup.  I am interested in some future titles but so far the whole thing seems like it was not designed with my tastes in mind, which is a stark contrast to Nintendo's other systems where I was clearly in the target market.  I'll probably buy it eventually but I don't see it suiting my needs as well as the GBA did mainly because so many of the games fall more towards the non-gamer category.  If the Rev is anything like the DS I'm going to have a hell of a time finding games for it I want to play.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 20, 2005, 01:55:37 PM
Ian, I agreed with you about online, but not this.

The DSs' selection problems are not anything to do with a focus on non-games. It just has a very low selection. However, it is not void of great games. Look at Kirby!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on June 20, 2005, 02:03:05 PM
I agree with you Ice that it will likely make "non-gamers" turn into casual gamers, and will in turn do nothing but good.  At least these non-games are somewhat high quality, it's not like the crap that comes out on GBA like "that's so Raven!"  The GBA had plenty of titles like this but Nintendo still provided it's fans with gems.  The GBA probably could have survived with only crappy licenced games that sell to kids, but the money is in making the system have the widest user base possible.  GTA on PS2 probably got a lot of "non-gamers" to get a PS2 so they could kill people because that is teh boMMB!  Then they end up buying more games to justify their purchase of an expensive video game system...plus they might actually start to enjoy gaming, it is rather addictive.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on June 20, 2005, 07:35:24 PM
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I can deal with the creation of games I don't like.  But a shift into an entirely different product is worth getting upset about.  There's never been a situation before where Nintendo has dedicated focus to people who don't play or want to play games.


I dont feel that worry.
What I'm getting from you is a feeling that Nintendo sees "non-games" perform very well and thus re-dedicates additional resources to their development.
The thing is, I can certainly see added resources being poured into such a direction, but I DON'T see those resources taking away from their existing regular game development. Rather, it is supplemental. Nintendo has the funds to spend on new programmers and liceneses for such endeavours, and I figure they would elect to make the constituent parts of a "non-game" development team seperate from the talent exisiting in their Mario, Zelda, Wario Ware etc etc teams...

Altho actually, wouldn't be susprised if the brains behind Wario Ware would be interested in coming up with new game concepts to appeal to the new market.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on June 20, 2005, 08:08:21 PM
Come on, the non-game-slash-mini-game has a fine tradition at Nintendo. Duck Hunt probably sold people on the NES just as much as Super Mario Bros did. My mom and dad didn't play video games, but they gave Duck Hunt a try.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 20, 2005, 08:58:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
A lot of people bring up the DS to prove that there's no point in worrying over this non-gamer stuff and that Nintendo is making games for both groups and everything's cool.  Personally I see the DS as the whole reason why I'm concerned.  I'm not interested in the current DS lineup.  I am interested in some future titles but so far the whole thing seems like it was not designed with my tastes in mind, which is a stark contrast to Nintendo's other systems where I was clearly in the target market.  I'll probably buy it eventually but I don't see it suiting my needs as well as the GBA did mainly because so many of the games fall more towards the non-gamer category.  If the Rev is anything like the DS I'm going to have a hell of a time finding games for it I want to play.

Like I said, you need some patience. Yea, we know that your exclusive types of games aren't out yet. But that is no reason to count the DS out. Those games are coming, and lots of them, so wait a bit and then give your opinion. Also, you make it sound like every single game out is a "non game" - come on, that's not true.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 20, 2005, 09:45:55 PM
Man, Ian, you must really hate Animal Crossing...

What defines a game? Seriously, I'd like to see your defintion of what constitutes a game so we can see what other non-games are out there.

Artimus: PDA software? Um, well, Linux is up and running on the DS now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 21, 2005, 08:12:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Nintendo is making games for both the non-gamer and the gamer, and look at how well they've done so far with the DS."

A lot of people bring up the DS to prove that there's no point in worrying over this non-gamer stuff and that Nintendo is making games for both groups and everything's cool.  Personally I see the DS as the whole reason why I'm concerned.  I'm not interested in the current DS lineup.  I am interested in some future titles but so far the whole thing seems like it was not designed with my tastes in mind, which is a stark contrast to Nintendo's other systems where I was clearly in the target market.  I'll probably buy it eventually but I don't see it suiting my needs as well as the GBA did mainly because so many of the games fall more towards the non-gamer category.  If the Rev is anything like the DS I'm going to have a hell of a time finding games for it I want to play.

I can already picture that...

How about these new games, Ian?  
"TOO GIMMICKY"
Um, fine, here's a new Mario game...
"TOO MANY SEQUELS"
Gah, here's a new epic game with new characters...
"TOO LATE NINTENDO, MORE BITCHING ON THE WAY"


And have you even played Kirby DS?  Sounds like more pointless bitching just for the sake of bitching to me...Don't worry, your pointless sequels that you seem to love and hate at the same time are coming!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on June 21, 2005, 03:46:36 PM
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~hokora/english/index.html

American sales figures seem to be off-limits now. NPD got tired of the "leaks".

Japanese sales figures are all that count now. Nintendogs has officially won the internet.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 21, 2005, 03:59:22 PM
YAY!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2005, 07:35:53 PM
Daily Japanese Sales Rankings

Mon. June 20, 2005

1. PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 (Square Enix)
2. DS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo)
3. PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike)
4. PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto)
5. DS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo)
6. DS Rakuhiki Jiten [Easy Dictionary](Nintendo)

7. PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain)
8. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution (Konami)
9. PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success)
10. DS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
11. PS2 Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song (Square Enix)
12. PSP Everybody Golf (Sony)
13. PS2 NAMCO×CAPCOM (Namco)
14. DS Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken DS (Sega)
15. DS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)

16. PS2 DS Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken Plus (Sega)
17. DS Sawaru Made in Wario (Nintendo)
18. DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tomy)

19. PS2 Professional Baseball Spirits 2 (Konami)
20. PSP Eiyuu Densetsu Gagharv Trilogy: Shiroki Majo (Bandai)

2 PSP games decided to show to the charts yesterday

But all 3 Nintendogs still in the Top 20 and the Dictionary is still up there
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 21, 2005, 07:45:57 PM
And so is that damned Brain game.

Where did Trauma Center go?  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 22, 2005, 06:48:43 PM
Daily Sales

06/21

1. PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 (Square Enix) (-)
2. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) (-)
3. PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike) (-)
4. PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto) (-)
5. NDS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo) (-)
6. NDS Rakuhiki Jiten [Easy Dictionary](Nintendo) (-)

7. PS2 Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song (Square Enix) (+4)
8. PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari (Success) (+1)
9. NDS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo) (+6)
10. PS2 Tear Ring Saga (Enterbrain) (-3)
11. GBA Mahou Sensei Negima! (Marvelous)
12. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution (Konami) (-3)
13. NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo) (-3)
14. PSP Everybody Golf (Sony) (-2)
15. PS2 Slotter Up Core 7 Dekitou da Street Fighter II (Dorasu)
16. NDS Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken DS (Sega) (-2)
17. NDS SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai)
18. NDS Sawaru Made in Wario (Nintendo) (-1)

19. PS2 Racing Battle: C1 Grand Prix (Genki)
20. PS2 Namco x Capcom (Namco) (-7)

8 DS games
1 GBA game
1 PSP game

Media Create preview (approximate)

June 13 - 19

1. PS2 Drag-on Dragoon 2 - Square Enix - 125,000 (NEW)
2. NDS Nou wo kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 34,000 (187,000)
3. PS2 Kenka Banchou - Spike - 21,000 (60,000)
4. PS2 Soccer Life 2 - Banpresto - 16,000 (52,000)
5. PS2 Metal Saga - Success - 10,000 (73,000)
6. NDS nintendogs Shiba & friends - Nintendo - 9,000 (206,000)
7. NDS DS Rakubiki Jiten - Nintendo - 7,000 (NEW)

8. PS2 Inuyasha - Bandai - 7,000 (NEW)
9. NDS nintendogs Dachs & friends - 7,000 (137,000)
10. PS2 Berwick Saga - 7,000 (128,000)

Hardware tomorrow.

2. NDS Nou wo kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 34,000 (187,000)

A non-game is killing the competition?

also Dengeki Online Top 50
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on June 23, 2005, 01:39:58 AM
Does anyone know what Rakubiki Jiten or whatever is?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: D-Mac Double on June 23, 2005, 01:48:07 AM
All Time Top Ten DS Game Sales - Japan (As of June 5th, I believe)
Source: cubed3.com

1.) WarioWare: Touched! (NDS, Nintendo): 740,594
2.) Super Mario 64 DS (NDS, Nintendo): 737,164
3.) Nintendogs (NDS, Nintendo): 421,540
4.) Pokémon Dash (NDS, Nintendo): 335,015
5.) Touch! Kirby: Mahou no Efude (NDS, Nintendo): 196,031
6.) Catch! Touch! Yoshi! (NDS, Nintendo): 180,199
7.) Daigasso! Band Brothers (NDS, Nintendo): 172,215 .
8.) Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (NDS, Tomy): 171,488
9.) Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju no Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo): 120,719
10.) Another Code (NDS, Nintendo): 112,720


Good to see 3rd-party games doing well on DS.

...Oh yeah
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 23, 2005, 02:04:41 AM
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Originally posted by: MrMojoRising
Does anyone know what Rakubiki Jiten or whatever is?
scrolling back up on the same post you are referring to..........
Quote


Daily Sales

06/21

1. PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 (Square Enix) (-)
2. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) (-)
3. PS2 Kenka Banchou (Spike) (-)
4. PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto) (-)
5. NDS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo) (-)
6. NDS Rakuhiki Jiten [Easy Dictionary](Nintendo) (-)

But to answer your question, its the Nintendo made Dictionary/Translator. Its been up high on the daily charts since release, but that doesn't mean much once you see the pretty low sales #'s  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 23, 2005, 02:13:12 AM
I thought Wario Ware sold more than that, a few months ago it was equal with Super Mario 64 DS, and ever since then it's outsold it every day and every week... anyway, if that's as of June 5th, Touhokudai Gaku Mirai Kagakugijutsu Kyoudoukenkyuu Center: Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju no Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training should move up three places as of now, and be just above Yoshi.

What's their source? Media Create, Famitsu, Dengeki? Because everyone has slightly different numbers. I think what's happened is they only got numbers from when the games were on the chart, because those are the only ones available to people. Not that it matters, pretty much every big DS release has done well.
Quote

As initially predicted at the system's launch, WarioWare has actually outsold Super Mario 64! What IS surprising is how Touch Kirby has done so average, considering it sells over 3/4 million units on the GBA or GC!

That's a stupid thing to say, Touch Kirby is still in the chart and still freaking selling, AND it's doing it on a userbase currently 10 times smaller.

Nintendogs will overtake Super Mario 64 DS eventually, Jump Superstars will rocket to the top of that chart in August, and Pokemon will inevitably top it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 23, 2005, 02:29:33 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
What's their source? Media Create, Famitsu, Dengeki? Because everyone has slightly different numbers. I think what's happened is they only got numbers from when the games were on the chart, because those are the only ones available to people. Not that it matters, pretty much every big DS release has done well.

Just by looking at the site I would think it was safe to say that they are using Dengeki(look @ the color coded console system)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 23, 2005, 04:42:19 PM
Heh, May NPD data came out afterall! This saddens me

GBA WARIOWARE: TWISTED! $58,390 1,991

Not even 2000 copies? Good god, that's absolutely pathetic for a game that good. Nintendo really need to find a way to educate the morons out there about videogames . Other notable releases last month,

GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STO $1,694,124 53,740
GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH $2,523,299 87,363
NDS SW EPISODE III: SITH $1,663,455 43,726
GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo $30,236,960 882,579

Pokemon Emerald absolutely destroying everything on all systems for the month.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 23, 2005, 05:01:51 PM
And the whooping continues, system sales:

DS  - 31,376
PS2 - 25,526
PSP - 20,416
GBASP - 9,727
GC - 2,183
GBA - 475
Xbox - 150
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 23, 2005, 05:10:15 PM
It's safe to say Nintendo has won Japan with the DS, it's not leaving the top of the charts anytime soon, congratulations Nintendo!

Now bring some of those games over here, QUICK.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 23, 2005, 07:29:01 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
It's safe to say Nintendo has won Japan with the DS, it's not leaving the top of the charts anytime soon, congratulations Nintendo!

Now bring some of those games over here, QUICK.
Yeah I still haven't found a big enough reason to go out and buy a DS, I'm just waiting for a reason to not be an on-looker anymore.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: thepoga on June 23, 2005, 08:20:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
It's safe to say Nintendo has won Japan with the DS, it's not leaving the top of the charts anytime soon, congratulations Nintendo!

Now bring some of those games over here, QUICK.


Go check this out.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/23/news_6128046.html

Wow, DS has sold nearly twice as much! What really struck me from this survey was that 23% of DS owners have 6 or more games.
The following was also suprising. Pokemon Dash is almost beating The top selling game of the PSP. Wow. I can't believe Lumines isn't higher on the list of top PSP games though. It's one of the best games released for it. Then again, Kirby isn't doing so hot. At least Nintendogs is selling like mad. Hot Shots was out since the beginning and Nintendogs has already outsold it by 50,000.

Nintendo DS
WarioWare: Touched! : 740,000 units
Super Mario 64 DS : 710,000 units
Nintendogs: 400,000 units
Pokémon Dash: 320,000 units
Kirby: Canvas Curse: 190,000 units

Sony PSP:
Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee: 350,000 units
Ridge Racers: 260,000 units
Dynasty Warriors: 260,000 units
Tales of Eternia: 170,000 units

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 23, 2005, 10:09:40 PM
Poga, those numbers are, in fact, quite outdated - Gamespot has got some old numbers there.

Wario Ware reached 800,000 I believe, Nintendogs is at around 560,000 now. Also, Kirby did better than that, I know it. I'll go check the previous sales posts to see.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 23, 2005, 10:31:30 PM
Kirby is pretty new after all so especially outdated numbers won't show many sales for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 24, 2005, 06:28:52 AM
Some NPD sales are coming in today... according to Games are Fun, the only DS game on the list was Star Wars ep. III, in 17th place, but no PSP game placed on the list at all.  Also, their list is not 100% reliable, apparently not all of the numbers are in.

Pokemon Emerald came in first with almost twice the sales of the second place spot (Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith for PS2).

Edit: Those are for sales in May, and they had no hardware sales when I checked.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 24, 2005, 06:42:14 AM
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 24, 2005, 06:53:39 AM
Full sales data:

1. (PS2) Drag-On Dragoon 2: Love Red, Ambivalence Black - 125,131
2. (DS) DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain - 33,931
3. (PS2) Kenka Bancho (incl. Limited Edition) - 21,163
4. (PS2) Soccer Life 2 - 15,980
5. (PS2) Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari - 10,232
6. (DS) Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends - 9,412
7. (DS) DS Rakubiki Dictionary - 7,330
8. (PS2) Inu Yasha: Feudal Combat - 7,209
9. (DS) Nintendogs: Dachs & Friends - 7,143
10. (PS2) Berwick Saga (incl. Limited Edition) - 6,988
11. (DS) Nintendogs: Chihuaha & Friends
...
14. (DS) SD Gundam
15. (DS) Touch! Kirby
16. (GBA) nonono pazuru chai rian (?)
17. (DS) Trauma Center: Under the Knife
18. (GBA) Magical Teacher Green Onion (?)
...
21. (GBA) Pokemon Emerald
...
23. (DS) Pachinko
...
25. (DS) Naruto
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2005, 09:14:08 AM
Full NPD Data for May

May Hardware Sales

PSP = 250,000
PS2 = 273,000
Xbox = 129,000
GCN = 50,000
GBA/DS = 279,000 (approx)

May Top 25 Software Sales

US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher

1 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo
2 PS2 SW EPISODE III: S ITH LucasArts
3 XBX SW EPISODE III: SITH LucasArts
4 XBX FORZA MOTORSPORT Microsoft
5 PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two
6 PS2 LEGO STAR W ARS Eidos
7 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
8 XBX M IDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two
9 XBX LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
10 XBX AREA 51 Midway
11 PS2 AREA 51 Midway
12 GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH LucasArts
13 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts
14 PSP NEED SPEED:UND RIVALS Electronic Arts
15 PS2 GRAN TURISMO 4 Sony
16 GBA LEGO STAR WARS Eidos
17 XBX T.CLANCY:CHAOS THEORY Ubi Soft
18 PSP HOT SHOTS GOLFPEN Sony
19 PSP UNTOLD LEGENDS:BTHRHD Sony
20 GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STO Nintendo
21 PS2 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 2 Electronic Arts
22 NDS SW EPISODE III: SITH LucasArts
23 XBX DOOM 3 Activision
24 PSP MVP BASEBALL Electronic Arts
25 PSP NBA STREET SHOWDOWN Electronic Arts
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.

CSFB Notes:

• Overall US videogame software sales were up sharply in the month of May with
sales up 30% y/y, faster than the 9% growth we saw in April due to strong
performance from Pokemon and Star Wars titles. 128-bit software sales were up
9% year over year. Handheld software sales were up 156% y/y, benefiting from
another full month of software for the PSP and the release of Pokemon Emerald. The
PSP sold approximately 250K units in its third month. 128-bit hardware sales were
down 17% y/y in May, with PS2 unit sales up 8%, but Gamecube and Xbox down
35% and 40% respectively. This brings the install base of 128-bit consoles to
approximately 51.4 million in the U.S.

• Electronic Arts U.S. videogame sales in May were down 8% year over year. The
company’s sell through should pick up with the release of three titles in June: Medal of
Honor: European Assault, receiving strong initial reviews (~80%), Battlefield 2, which
is off to a very strong start, and Batman Begins. For the quarter to date including May
PC game sales, U.S. sell through is down 29%.

• Take Two’s U.S. videogame sales in May were down 1% year over year. The
company had no new releases in the month, however April’s Midnight Club: DUB
Edition sold 228K units. For the quarter to date including May PC game sales, sell
through is up 49%. The most significant title from Take-Two in the calendar quarter is
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which released in early June on the Xbox and PC.

• THQ U.S. videogame sales increased 13% year over year in May. The company’s
WWE Wrestlemania XXI performed well with approximately 135K units sold in its
first two months. For the quarter to date including May PC game sales, sell through is
up 12%. The most significant release in the current quarter should be Destroy All
Humans!, which launched this week on the PS2 and Xbox and is receiving solid initial
reviews (~80%).

• Activision’s U.S. videogame sales were down 24% year over year for the month of
May, due to the tough comparison with last May’s Shrek 2.The company released
Madagascar mid month, which sold approximately 46K units. For the quarter to date
including May PC game sales, sell through is up 59% due to the strength of the Doom
franchise.

• Midway’s U.S. sales in the month of May were down 1% year over year. The
company had a difficult comparison with last year due to continued sales of NBA
Ballers, which released last April. For the quarter to date, sell through is down 36%.

• We expect another solid month in June given the number of titles being released,
despite the difficult comp created by last year’s hardware price cuts.


Daily Japanese Sales Charts

23rd June

1 GBA Mushi King [Sega] RPG 2005/6/23
2 PS2 Zill'ol [Koei] RPG 2005/6/23
3 GC Chibi Robo [Nintendo] ACT 2005/6/23
4 PS2 Easy victory! Pachisuro declaration 3 [Tecmo] TBL 2005/6/23
5 NDS Famicom Wars DS [Nintendo] SLG 2005/6/23
6 PS2 FutaKoi (limited edition) [Marvelous] AVG 2005/6/23
7 NDS Goemon [Konami] ACT 2005/6/23
8 NDS Takashi Tohoku University brain training [Nintendo] ETC 2005/5/19
9 PSP CODED ARMS [Konami] STG 2005/6/23
10 PS2 Zill'ol [Koei] RPG 2005/6/23
11 PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 [Square Enix] RPG 2005/6/16
12 PS2 Shrine maiden [Idea factory] AVG 2005/6/23
13 PS2 SIMPLE 2000 series Vol.80 [D3] ACT 2005/6/23
14 PS2 Shrine maiden (limited edition) [Idea factory] AVG 2005/6/23
15 PS2 Ghost Recon Jungle Storm [Ubisoft] STG 2005/6/23
16 PS2 Kenka Banchou [Spike] ACT 2005/6/9
17 PS2 FutaKoi [Marvelous] AVG 2005/6/23
18 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari [Success] RPG 2005/6/9
19 NDS Easy Dictionary [Nintendo] ETC 2005/6/16
20 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and friends [Nintendo] SLG 2005/4/21

and to whoever was wondering where the daily rankings come from
they come from Yahoo Japan
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 24, 2005, 02:30:38 PM
The way the NPD ranks titles is moronic.  DS games in most cases are $20 less than PSP games, which means they would have to sell way more just to even get ranked.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 24, 2005, 08:17:45 PM
Perhaps that's what Sony is hoping for? And MS with their 60$ games for the X360?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 24, 2005, 08:26:57 PM
"This brings the install base of 128-bit consoles to
approximately 51.4 million in the U.S."

128-BIT, BABY!!@#$%! POWER UP

Yeah that's NPD in its infinite wisdom.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2005, 09:00:59 PM
How do you guys like these #'s?

Total Industry Sales
May-05

Total (millions) $319,198,900

Company Projected $'s Market Share

1 Nintendo of America $52,677,860 16.5%
2 Lucasarts $48,091,540 15.1%
3 Electronic Arts $37,446,100 11.7%
4 Sony (Corp) $21,178,360 6.6%
5 Take 2 Interactive (Corp) $19,251,530 6.0%
6 THQ (Corp) $15,277,190 4.8%
7 Microsoft (Corp) $14,931,890 4.7%
8 Ubisoft $14,239,730 4.5%
9 Activision $13,280,570 4.2%
10 Eidos Interactive (Corp) $11,224,450 3.5%
11 Konami Digital Ent. $8,988,442 2.8%
12 Midway $8,937,693 2.8%
13 Vivendi Universal (Corp) $7,441,712 2.3%
14 Namco $7,339,482 2.3%
15 Atari $5,409,277 1.7%
16 Capcom USA $5,318,835 1.7%
17 Majesco $4,256,475 1.3%
18 Sega of America $4,003,274 1.3%
19 Sony Online Ent. $2,420,709 0.8%
20 Koei $2,219,096 0.7%
21 Square Enix Inc (Corp) $2,194,557 0.7%
22 Groove Games $1,526,935 0.5%
23 Buena Vista Games (Corp) $1,477,964 0.5%
24 Atlus $1,296,419 0.4%
25 Crave Entertainment $1,264,987 0.4%

Nintendo made more money than Sony and Microsoft combined and Microsoft added again

(N)$52,677,860 - ((S)$21,178,360 + (M)$14,931,890) = $16,567,610 - (M)$14,931,890 = $1,635,720
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 24, 2005, 09:47:07 PM
All thanks to Pokemon

Looks like Famicom Wars DS flopped, hopefully it has some legs.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on June 25, 2005, 04:37:47 PM
Gotta catch 'em all!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2005, 10:02:53 AM
Saturday June 25th 2005

1 GBA Mushi King [Sega] RPG 2005/6/23
2 NDS Takashi Tohoku University Brain Training [Nintendo] ETC 2005/5/19
3 GC Chibi Robo [Nintendo] ACT 2005/6/23

4 PS2 Drag on Dragoon 2 [Square Enix] RPG 2005/6/16
5 PS2 Zill'ol [Koei] RPG 2005/6/23
6 NDS Famicom Wars DS [Nintendo] SLG 2005/6/23
7 PS2 Easy Victory! Pachisuro declaration 3 [Tecmo] TBL 2005/6/23
8 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends [Nintendo] SLG 2005/4/21
9 NDS Goemon [Konami] ACT 2005/6/23

10 PS2 Kenka Banchou [Spike] ACT 2005/6/9
11 PS2 Metal Saga: Sajin no Kusari [Success] RPG 2005/6/9
12 NDS Nintendogs Chihuahua and Friends [Nintendo] SLG 2005/4/21
13 PSP CODED ARMS [Konami] STG 2005/6/23
14 NDS Nintendogs Dachs and Friends [Nintendo] SLG 2005/4/21
15 NDS Easy Dictionary [Nintendo] ETC 2005/6/16
16 NDS Touch! Kirby [Nintendo] ACT 2005/3/24
17 NDS Warioware Touched [Nintendo] ETC 2004/12/2

18 PS2 Soccer Life 2 (Banpresto) SLG 2005/6/9
19 GBA Pokemon Emerald [Pokemon] RPG 2004/9/16
20 NDS NARUTO 3 [Tomy] ACT 2005/4/21


NDS = 10 games
GBA = 2 games
GC = 1 games
PS2 = 6 games
PSP = 1 game

Sunday June 26th 2005

1 GBA Beetle king Mushiking - road to gray test champion - Sega RPG 2005/6/23
2 NDS DS Brain training of adult Nintendo ETC 2005/5/19
3 GC Chibi Robo Nintendo ACT 2005/6/23

4 PS2 ..Drag On Dragoon 2 Square Enix RPG 2005/6/16
5 NDS Famicom wars DS Nintendo SLG 2005/6/23
6 NDS Nintendogs shiba & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
7 NDS Goemon Konami ACT 2005/6/23

8 PS2 Zill'ol Cora RPG 2005/6/23
9 NDS Nintendogs chihuahua & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
10 PS2 Easy victory. 600 pinball-style slot machine declaration three Riodecarnibal Juugeca expressions Tecmo TBL 2005/6/23
11 NDS Nintendogs Dachs & friends Nintendo SLG 2005/4/21
12 PS2 Fight school gang leader Spike ACT 2005/6/9
13 PS2 METAL SAGA - chain of grit - Success RPG 2005/6/9
14 PSP CODED ARMS Konami STG 2005/6/23
15 NDS DS Easy dictionary Nintendo ETC 2005/6/16
16 NDS Touched Made in Wario Nintendo ETC 2004/12/2
17 NDS NARUTO 3 For DS Tommy ACT 2005/4/21
18 NDS Touch. Kirby Nintendo ACT 2005/3/24

19 PS2 Soccer life 2 Banpresto SLG 2005/6/9
20 NDS Super Mario 64DS ACT 2004/12/2

NDS = 11 games
GBA = 1 game
GC = 1 game
PS2 = 6 games
PSP = 1 games
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on June 27, 2005, 10:06:01 AM
I'm glad to see Chibi Robot at the top of the charts =D
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on June 27, 2005, 10:35:24 AM
Wow. Top 3 titles are from Nintendo?!

I honestly don't believe it. This is crazy. Why are things so diferent in North America? (of course I know the anwer to that question, or at least part of the answer, but come on, how is Microsoft beating Nintendo on North America?)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on June 27, 2005, 11:21:16 AM
Marketing, and market specific games.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 27, 2005, 01:56:15 PM
Those are for handheld sales - the DS is doing so well in Japan beacuse many of the top titles have come out already, but they haven't in North America. Even with all of the PSPs advertising and North American-oriented games, I expect the DS to thrash the PSP when all of the killer apps come out soon.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 27, 2005, 05:39:08 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Toruresu
Wow. Top 3 titles are from Nintendo?!

I honestly don't believe it. This is crazy. Why are things so diferent in North America? (of course I know the anwer to that question, or at least part of the answer, but come on, how is Microsoft beating Nintendo on North America?)

Because Americans don't like tiku tiku tiku!  games...They like shooting and sex appeal... *roll eyes*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 27, 2005, 08:33:08 PM
Well, tiku tiku tiku is still better than waka waka.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on June 28, 2005, 01:34:30 AM
I don't like tiku tiku games or shooting/sex games!  What nationality am I?!?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 28, 2005, 02:03:52 AM
Martian.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 28, 2005, 09:02:42 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MrMojoRising
I don't like tiku tiku games or shooting/sex games!  What nationality am I?!?
What's left?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on June 28, 2005, 01:49:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
Quote

Originally posted by: MrMojoRising
I don't like tiku tiku games or shooting/sex games!  What nationality am I?!?
What's left?


Sports? *shrugs*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on June 28, 2005, 02:04:19 PM
Quote

What's left?

Communism, obviously.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on June 28, 2005, 03:10:19 PM
Quote

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Originally posted by: vudu

Quote

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Originally posted by: MrMojoRising
I don't like tiku tiku games or shooting/sex games! What nationality am I?!?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What's left?
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"¿What's left?" Drinking game or cock game.  "nationality" - mexican
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 29, 2005, 07:36:35 PM
In another attempt to throw this train back on the tracks.......

Media Create - Japanese Weekly Sales #'s June 20th - 26th

1. GBA Mushiking: Greatest Champion no Michi - Sega - 208,000 (NEW)O_o
2. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 32,000 (219,000)

3. PS2 Zill O'll infinite - Koei - 31,000 (NEW)
4. NGC Chibi Robo! - Nintendo - 29,000 (NEW)
5. PS2 Drag-on Dragoon 2 - Square Enix - 27,000 (153,000)
6. PS2 Rakushou! Pachislot 3 - Tecmo - 25,000 (NEW)
7. PSP Coded Arms - Konami - 14,000 (NEW)
8. PS2 FutaKoi Alternative - Marvellous Interactive - 13,000 (NEW)
9. NDS Famicom Wars DS - Nintendo - 12,000 (NEW)
10. PS2 Kenka Banchou - Spike - 12,000 (72,000)

Exact software & Hardware #'s tomorrow.

Brainercise is still running at the top of the charts
and Sega made a helluva debut w/ Mushiking
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 29, 2005, 11:21:23 PM
Family Flop Wars. Hopefully it does well overseas. Actually it's been doing well in the daily charts for the past few days so it'll be in next weeks chart too, maybe it'll have long enough legs to be more of a success.

GO CHIBI ROBO! That Brain Training game is doing AWESOME, and WTF is that game at number one? People should be buying other games, not that. Another Brain Training game is out there today I believe, it shoudl be interesting to see how that does. Could we witness a Brain Training #1 #2? That would be a sight to behold!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on June 30, 2005, 12:07:36 AM
Quote

...and WTF is that game at number one?

http://mushiking.com/e/index.html  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2005, 12:12:06 AM
BEETLE CARD BATTTLE WTF
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 30, 2005, 09:06:54 AM
From what I understand, it's like Pokemon, except with beetles.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 30, 2005, 07:15:14 PM
System Sales:

DS     32,789
PS2    28,515
GBASP    21,904
PSP    20,862
GC    2,649
GBA    452
Xbox    18

LMAO? GBA outsold the PSP!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 30, 2005, 08:10:39 PM
Is there any way to obtain US sales info? I'd love to see how the DS and PSP are shaping up against each other.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2005, 08:47:10 PM
NPD for May is in this thread, you may want to scroll back a few pages, but........

Quote

Here are numbers from Sony, and intriguingly, they compare most closely to figures from Nintendo for Game Boy Advance sales (instead of for the DS):

Sony says it sold 250,000 PSPs in May (more than $62 million in revenue).

The obvious competitive yardstick is Nintendo's DS: about 57,000 units that month.

But here's the eye-opener: Nintendo says its GBA sales totaled 223,000 in May.

From Sony's point of view, the PSP is THE portable game machine of choice.

From Nintendo's perspective, the combined clout of the GBA and DS is the leading market force.

that should give an idea of how things are going, I will look around for total #'s sold.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 30, 2005, 08:53:09 PM
"From Nintendo's perspective, the combined clout of the GBA and DS is the leading market force."

That doesn't mean anything.  They're different products and thus their sales shouldn't be combined.  It's like when people say that Nintendo is number one because the Cube and GBA combined outsell the PS2.  Does the Cube benefit at ALL in terms of image or third party support or media coverage or retail shelf space from this "number one" position?  No, because they're different systems.  It's the same with the DS.  In regards to any of the perks that market share provides all that matters for the DS are DS sales.

If Nintendo's allowed to combine GBA and DS sales then Sony is allowed to combine PS1 and 2 sales and we all know how silly that is.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2005, 09:10:30 PM
I was gonna say that the DS has a GBA inside of it, but you last point made me retract my post, cause the PS2 has a PS1 inside of it too. Now having said all of that, lets pretend that I didn't, ok
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2005, 11:13:04 PM
DS vs PSP in the Top 50

2(2) DS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo)
7(NEW) PSP Coded Arms (Konami)
9(NEW) DS Famicom Wars DS (Nintendo)
11(NEW) DS Ganbare Goemon: Toukai Douchuu (Konami)
12(6) DS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo)
15(9) DS Nintendogs: Dachs and Friends (Nintendo)
17(11) DS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
19(7) DS DS Rakubiki Jiten (Nintendo)
24(14) DS SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai)
25(22) PSP Minna no Golf Portable (Sony)
26(15) DS Touch! Kirby (Nintendo)
27(25) DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tomy)
30(23) DS Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken DS (Sega)
32(35) DS Sawaru Made in Wario (Nintendo)
35(17) DS Chou Shittou Caduceus (Atlus)
37(28) PSP Hero Legend Gagharv Trilogy: Akai Shizuku (Bandai)
44(40) DS Bokujou Monogatari: Colobocle Station (Marvelous)
47(37) DS Bomberman (Hudson)
48(42) DS Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)

*PSP games bolded to be noticed*

at least PSP fights back in the american market......

conversation in Japan
DS: Come here PSP, let me tell you a little joke....
DS: What did the five fingers say to the face?
PSP: huh...
DS: SLAP!!!!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on June 30, 2005, 11:52:22 PM
Does anyone know the approximate total sales of the DS and PSP in America?  I looked back through the forum but didn't see any since the new numbers came in and I don't like adding things...so...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on July 01, 2005, 12:14:01 AM
Here's the DS vs PSP spread so far in America, near as I can tell.

-------------------

NDS 2004:
2004 Nov - 479,695 (550,000 unit launch)
2004 Dec - 745,899

NDS 2004 total - 1,225,594
(It was rumored to have been 2 million, but Nintendo's maximum capacity was only 2.8 million, and 1.5 million units got sold in Japan)

-------------------

NDS 2005:
2005 Jan - 152,091
2005 Feb - ???
2005 Mar - ???

2005-March total - 428,000

2005 Apr - ???
2005 May - 57,000

-------------------

PSP:
2005 Mar - 620,000 (on 1,000,000 shipped)
2005 Apr - 351,000
2005 May - 250,000

-------------------

NDS numbers after January do not seem to be available, as NPD seems to be combining them with the GBA for some reason. But they're rumored to be around 50,000 a month from March to May.

NDS:
1,750,000?

PSP:
1,221,000  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 01, 2005, 08:06:55 AM
Japanese Daily Sales Chart - June 30th

1 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai 2005/6/30
2 PS2 GENJI Sony 2005/6/30
3 PS2 Kagerou II - Dark Illusion Tecmo 2005/6/30
4 PS2 Onihama Bakusou Gurentai Gekitou Hen Success 2005/6/30
5 NDS Gentle Brain Exercises Nintendo 2005/6/30
6 GBA Marheaven: Knockin' on Heaven's Door Konami 2005/6/30

7 PS2 Mai-Hime: The Another DX pack Marvelous Entertainment 2005/6/30
8 PS2 Poncotsu Roman Daikatsugeki Bumpy Trot Irem 2005/6/30
9 PSP Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star Sega 2005/6/30
10 PS2 OZ Konami 2005/6/30
11 PS2 Erementar Gerad Taito 2005/6/30
12 PS2 Mai-Hime: The Another Marvelous Entertainment 2005/6/30
13 GBA Momotarou Dentestu G: Gold Deck wo Tsukure! Hudson 2005/6/30
14 NDS DS Brain training of adult Nintendo ETC 2005/5/19
15 GBA Beetle king Mushiking - Sega RPG 2005/6/23

16 PS2 Garou: Mark of the Wolves SNK Playmore 2005/6/30
17 GCN Chibi Robo Nintendo ACT 2005/6/23
18 PS2 Chocolat: Maid Cafe Curio Alchemist 2005/6/30
19 PS2 My Merry May with be Kid 2005/6/30
20 PSP Adventure Player From Software 2005/6/30

Adult brain game slides to #14, replaced by Kids brain game @ #4.

Lots of new releases on the charts, but Chibi & Mushiking are still in the top 20
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on July 01, 2005, 08:13:54 AM
Hmm... There's also 2 PSP games, weird.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2005, 08:57:58 AM
I'm noticing the distinct lack of Famicom Wars DS.  This makes me sad.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on July 01, 2005, 09:12:28 AM
Your right.

Where is Nintendogs?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 01, 2005, 09:40:31 AM
It's just one day, every new release day in Japan a bunch of titles appear on the chart and push everything else down, the next day most new titles drop, by the end of the week they are out of the chart and the ones that sell consistantly are back up there. Nintendogs will be back! Not sure about Famicom Wars though, that seems to have flopped just like the GBA ones did over there.

Also, I imagine now is the time for people to start saving up their money for Jump Superstars.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on July 01, 2005, 05:01:26 PM
Nintendo is doomed!

I can only wonder how it feels for sony and their psp to be outsold by the GBSP, even if its just for one week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 01, 2005, 05:30:49 PM
This is Sega's big comeback!  Witness the power of BEETLES
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on July 01, 2005, 07:42:22 PM
Sega's answer to Pokemon *snicker*.

Well done Sega, 200,000 copies down, only tens of millions more to go.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 01, 2005, 09:10:49 PM
7 PS2 Mai-Hime: The Another DX pack Marvelous Entertainment 2005/6/30

I have this strange feeling this game sucks. Dunno, the big companies tend to turn animes into games that don't fit the show. Ah, who am I kidding? I would only accept Tomy or Type Moon working on that game...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on July 02, 2005, 01:24:14 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ruby_onix
NDS:
1,750,000?

PSP:
1,221,000


Thanks Ruby Onix!  I'm really curious about how America is going to pan out...especially when all the really big DS games come out and then PSP will have GTA which will sell like hot-cakes...except nobody buys hot-cakes all that much...so rather it will sell like pokemon.  Very interesting nonetheless.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on July 02, 2005, 07:55:33 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
Sega's answer to Pokemon *snicker*.

Well done Sega, 200,000 copies down, only tens of millions more to go.


try a hundred million still its really great to see Sega doing well, Im glad for them
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 06, 2005, 01:27:15 AM
July 4 daily sales (in long title engrish form)

1   NDS   It is soft head private school   Nintendo Co.   PUZ   2005/6/30
2   NDS   Takashi Tohoku University future technology collaborative research center Kawasima thickly forges the professor supervision brain DS training   Nintendo Co.   ETC   2005/5/19
3   PS2   GENJI   The SONY * computer entertainment   ACT   2005/6/30
4   GBA   Road to beetle ace ????? - Gray test champion -   Sega   RPG   2005/6/23
5   PS2   ???? complete capture ogre beach blast running gangsters - intense fighting compilation -   Success   TBL   2005/6/30
6   PS2   Shadow prison II -Dark illusion-   ???   ACT   2005/6/30
7   GC   ? ? ??!   Nintendo Co.   ACT   2005/6/23
8   PS2   Gill all ???????   ????   RPG   2005/6/23
9   PSP   Encounter ???? winning technique! Fist portable   Sega   TBL   2005/6/30
10   PS2   Cancer/gun dam true Odyssy - it does to be lost, the legend of the G -   Bandai   RPG   2005/6/30
11   PS2   ??????????? 2 - Crimson of seal and black of immorality -   ????? * ?????   RPG   2005/6/16
12   GBA   Make the pink Taro electric railway G gold * deck!   Hudson   TBL   2005/6/30
13   GBA   ????? cKnockin ' ON HEAVEN ' S DOOR   ???   ACT   2005/6/30
14   PS2   Obsolete roman large fighting scene van peat lot   Eye rem software engineering   AVG   2005/6/30
15   NDS   Nintendogs ? & ????   Nintendo Co.   SLG   2005/4/21
16   PS2   Quarrel school gang leader   Spike   ACT   2005/6/9
17   NDS   Nintendogs chihuahua & ????   Nintendo Co.   SLG   2005/4/21
18   NDS   DS easy pulling dictionary   Nintendo Co.   ETC   2005/6/16
19   PS2   Easy victory! ???? declaration 3 Rio deca- - Ni val * ????? 600 formula   ???   TBL   2005/6/23
20   PS2   Chain of METAL SAGA - sand and dust -

We have a Brain Training #1 - #2! Those Japanese are really eager to train their brains!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on July 06, 2005, 03:41:12 AM
What's that GC game at no. 7?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 06, 2005, 04:01:28 AM
Chibi Robo
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2005, 09:47:23 PM
Media Create June 27- July 3

software:
1. PS2 Gundam True Odyssey - Bandai - 85,989 (NEW)
2. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 72,656 (NEW)
3. PS2 Genji - SCE - 70,082 (NEW)
4. PS2 Kagerou II - Tecmo - 61,949 (NEW)
5. GBA Mushiking - Sega - 58,751 (267,151)
6. PS2 Onihama Pachislot - Success - 31,684 (NEW)
7. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 27,066 (246,148)
8. PS2 Mai Hime - Marvellous - 25,366 (NEW)
9. GBA Melheaven - Konami - 24,809 (NEW)
10. PSP Fist of the North Star Pachislot - Sega - 19,700 (NEW)

hardware:
DS 35,083
PS2 29,992
PSP 21,901
GBASP 12,509
GC 2,602
GBA 310

Xbox 182

what is 'Yawaraka Atamajuku '?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on July 07, 2005, 10:00:59 PM
Alone Cram School.* It's the children't version of DS Training, basically. I think.

* I do not claim this poor translation.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 07, 2005, 11:39:21 PM
Would anyone happen to have overall software sales for both the DS and the PSP, as well as ratios? And the top sellers for both systems?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 08, 2005, 12:06:49 AM
Totals for April-June 2005 (1st quarter):

0. nintendogs Shiba + Dachs + Chihuahua (DS): 497,000
1. Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song (PS2): 449,000
2. Gundam: One Year War (PS2): 319,000
3. Tekken 5 (PS2): 285,000
4. Beetle Mushiking (GBA): 234,000
5. nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (DS): 218,000
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 09, 2005, 12:48:29 AM
source: Next-Gen.biz
Quote

Famitsu has released market-data on first-half-2005 hardware and software sales in Japan. The stats show a 1.8 tie-ratio for Sony's PSP and a 1.9 tie-ratio for Nintendo's DS, with both machines selling similar numbers.

Since launch, the report says, 1.5 million PSPs and 2.65 million software units have been shipped to stores. The top-selling PSP game is Minna no Golf, with sales of 232,000 copies. Nintendo has sold through to customers 2.3 million DS units, and 440,000 DS games. Its top seller is Nintendogs, with sales of 495,000 copies.

Over the last six months, though, PSP numbers closed in on the DS, with 1.1 to the DS's 1.2 million units.

In the market overall, the magazine's 100 top-selling titles for the first half of 2005 include 17 from Nintendo, 12 from Namco, and 10 each from Sony and Konami. Square Enix and Bandai each have 7.

A chart of game publishers, ranked by copies sold, features Nintendo at the top, with 3.1 million copies; Sony second, with 2 million; and Namco and Square Enix tied for third, with around 1.5 million each.

In the first half of the year, a total of 24.4 million game software units were sold, down from 28.3 million over the same period last year.
I think this is the info you were looking for, even though it looks a little inaccurate.

"Nintendo has sold through to customers 2.3 million DS units, and 440,000 DS games. Its top seller is Nintendogs, with sales of 495,000 copies."  does that seem a little off to you too? Are they missing a '0'? if the tie ratio is 1:2 it would appear that they missed a zero .

and why are they comparing Sony's 'shipped' to Nintendo's 'sold'?

 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on July 09, 2005, 06:41:13 AM
Maybe Sony hasn't released the numbers of PSP's sold?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 09, 2005, 01:01:18 PM
??

I'm kind of confused how Nintendogs alone sold 495,000 when total game sales were supposedly 440,000?

Idiots.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 09, 2005, 01:04:22 PM
o_O PSP's actually selling hat well here?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 09, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
The Famitsu must be off, because the DS has regained over a million unit lead and is growing weekly.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 09, 2005, 02:42:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
??

I'm kind of confused how Nintendogs alone sold 495,000 when total game sales were supposedly 440,000?

Idiots.

I think that's supposed to be 4.4 million...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 09, 2005, 03:14:48 PM
"The Famitsu must be off, because the DS has regained over a million unit lead and is growing weekly. "

The data is "over the last six months"
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 09, 2005, 06:20:54 PM
So that's a 700 thousand unit lead just in the past six months? Or all time? Huh?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 09, 2005, 08:59:08 PM
Eh?

"Over the last six months, though, PSP numbers closed in on the DS, with 1.1 to the DS's 1.2 million units."

These are the figures for the last six months. Before that, the DS already had a million lead, but the PSP started selling and cut into that million lead. A few weeks ago, the DS regained the million lead with its consistently good sales. So over the last six months it has a lead of 100k, and before that it had roughly a million more. Therefore, the DS is in the lead by about 1.1 million units.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on July 10, 2005, 08:10:21 AM
"why are they comparing Sony's 'shipped' to Nintendo's 'sold'?"

I assume it would be to make Sony look better.  Sony rarely uses true sales.  They always tend to use shipping numbers to sound more impressive.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on July 10, 2005, 03:04:34 PM
But it actually makes nintendo look better.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on July 10, 2005, 11:58:29 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: TVman
But it actually makes nintendo look better.


Not to "Joe Average" who only quickly reads through it and figures that the two figures are close, instead of them measuring two differents things. Not only that, but it makes the entire first part bull $^&*, and obviously in favor of Sony.

1.8 tier vs. 1.9 tier? Yeah, I guess, except the 1.8 Sony "tier" is simply how many games have been shipped to stores compared to systems, instead of how many games have been sold compared to systems like is being done with the DS data there.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 13, 2005, 08:53:17 PM
Media Create July 4th - Jul 10th

Software:
1. Sakura Taisen V (Sega, PS2): 111,771
2. Yawaraka Atamajuku(Easy Brain Training?) (Nintendo, DS): 75,156 (147,812)
3. Minna Daisuki Katamari Damacy (Namco, PS2): 61,455
4. Musashiden II (Square Enix, PS2): 57,916
5. Mushiking (Sega, GBA): 41,370 (308,521)
6. Gundam True Odyssey (Bandai, PS2): 37,653 (123,643)
7. Otona no DS Training (Nintendo, DS): 28,792 (274,939)
8. Kenranbutosai (SCE, PS2): 27,928
9. Genji (SCE, PS2): 24,156 (94,239)
10. Star Wars Episode III (EA, PS2): ~20,000

Hardware:
DS: 41,503 (1,112,952)
PS2: 28,711 (1,128,763)
PSP: 20,711 (1,020,458)
GBASP: 11,176 (401,927)
GC: 2,273 (127,226)
GBA: 289 (14,025)

Xbox: 179 (8,185)


DS more than doubes the PSP sales (barely) for that week, falling just 8,000 sales shy of equaling all Sony system sales, Mushiking has sold over 300,000+, both Brain Training non-games are still in the top 10 & are  selling more this week than they did last week!!

an overall good week in Nintendo camp    
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2005, 02:00:47 AM
3. Minna Daisuki Katamari Damacy (Namco, PS2): 61,455

I hope SCEE keeps their promise and releases at least this one here.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on July 14, 2005, 09:02:28 AM
Quote

DS more than doubes the PSP sales (barely) for that week, falling just 8,000 sales shy of equaling all Sony system sales
DS: 41,503 + GBASP: 11,176 + GC: 2,273 + GBA: 289 = 55,241
PS2: 28,711 + PSP: 20,711 = 49,422
55,241 - 49,422 = 5,819 in Nintendo's favor
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 14, 2005, 10:07:09 PM
I don't know if this is all peaches n cream...glad the sales are good, yet I'm like BlacknMild I'm a bit bitter that the non-games have seen such scintillating success yet the cool "regular" games have not.

Famicom Wars...Trauma Center...Goemon...where art thou? According to Famitsu you were all excellent to good games. And the system is selling like hotcakes. Where are the sales?

[/bitchin]
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 15, 2005, 03:55:39 AM
Famicom Wars has never been popular in Japan (the GBA series) so that's no surprise.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on July 15, 2005, 07:15:18 AM
"Famicom Wars has never been popular in Japan (the GBA series) so that's no surprise."

Yet until only a few years ago it was a Japan-only series.  How weird is that?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 15, 2005, 08:07:36 AM
Very. Its more American minded, too.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 15, 2005, 08:13:26 PM
"Famicom Wars...Trauma Center...Goemon...where art thou? According to Famitsu you were all excellent to good games."

Yea, 'cuz that's a real "traditional, regular game"

And Famicom Wars isn't really appealing to Japan, as pointed out.

Wait for some other of these "traditional" games; I guarantee they will sell well. Look at Jump already.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Polyethylene on July 16, 2005, 04:45:25 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Blackknight131
Famicom Wars...Trauma Center...Goemon...where art thou? According to Famitsu you were all excellent to good games...


Geomon got something like 27/40.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on July 16, 2005, 05:09:14 PM
Sometimes review score =\= game quality.  Case in point, Armored Core: Formula Front.  I cannot fathom how anybody at Famitsu could have enjoyed that game enough to give it a score above 6.  This isn't a personal issue.  Formula Front you don't even play.  You tell your robot what to do and they fight FOR you.  It was less a game and more a movie.  I guess having actual input into the combat would have drained the PSP battery or something.

As for Goemon, well...  They may have just not liked it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 18, 2005, 09:01:38 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Polyethylene
Quote

Originally posted by: Blackknight131
Famicom Wars...Trauma Center...Goemon...where art thou? According to Famitsu you were all excellent to good games...


Geomon got something like 27/40.


Naw man, thats just how Goemon does in Famitsu. They ain't too hot on Goemon generally.
If anything, thats ENCOURAGING, coming from Famitsu...apparently the game is a bit short as well, unfortuneately.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 18, 2005, 09:03:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Famicom Wars has never been popular in Japan (the GBA series) so that's no surprise."

Yet until only a few years ago it was a Japan-only series.  How weird is that?


Yea, I'm not quite understanding where folks are getting the "Famicom Wars is not popular in Japan" idea...if anything, the fact that the game series has survived and continued to spawn since the days of the famicom would seem to indicate it does well enough for itself over there...

It certainly has garnered an excited following in America tho.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 18, 2005, 11:24:54 AM
Check the sales data for both Advance Wars and AW 2 in Japan and you'll see exactly where we are coming from.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2005, 09:00:42 AM
Japan Daily Sales - July 17th 2005  (new games release day)

1. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 - Konami  
2. NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku - Nintendo
3. PS2 Saru Gecchu 3 (Ape Escape 3) - SCE
4. NDS Brain Training DS - Nintendo
5. GBA Mushi King - SEGA
6. NDS Naruto RPG 2 - Tomy
7. NGC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 - Konami

8. PS2 Gundam True Odyssey - Bandai
9. NGC Dance Dance Revolution with MARIO - Nintendo
10. PS2 Minna Daisuki Katamari - Namco
11. Pachislot Onimusha 3 - SEGA
12. K-1 WORLD MAX 2005 - World to World Champion - D3 Publishing
13. NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends - Nintendo
14. PS2 GENJI - SCE
15. PS2 Mushashiden 2 - Square Enix
16. NDS Nintendogs Dachs & Friends - Nintendo
17. NGC Chibi Robo - Nintendo

18. PS2 Pachislot game - Success
19. GBA Pokemon Emerald - Nintendo
20. NDS Nintendogs Chihuahua & Friends - Nintendo


All 3 dogs are back in the Top 20 and both Brain games are still in the Top 5

Pet Simulation & Puzle/Quizzes seem to do really good on the DS

Its really good to see GC on the charts, maybe I should post this in the GC section too
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 19, 2005, 11:42:39 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Check the sales data for both Advance Wars and AW 2 in Japan and you'll see exactly where we are coming from.


Hmm...odd. And kinda sad. Apparently the GBA games were not even released there until the compilation pak Famicom Wars 1+2 last November.

How very odd...it used to be fairly popular back in the days of the SuperFami.
Now I put a frowny face
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on July 19, 2005, 04:16:09 PM
Quote

11. Pachislot Onimusha 3 - SEGA


What?  I thought Capcom made Onimuuuuusha?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 19, 2005, 05:40:20 PM
Whoops, they goofed...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 22, 2005, 09:44:38 PM
CSFB

June Hardware Sales

PSP = 294,000
PS2 = 355,000
Xbox = 168,000
GCN = 70,000
GBA/DS = 400,000 (approx)


DS(including bundle) total = 112k

June Top 25 Software Sales

US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher

1 XBX GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS Take 2 Interactive
2 PS2 SW EPISODE III: SITH LucasArts
3 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo
4 XBX CONKER: LIVE AND RELOADED Microsoft
5 PS2 MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN AS Electronic Arts
6 PS2 LEGO STAR WARS LucasArts
7 PS2 DESTROY ALL HUMANS! THQ
8 PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take 2 Interactive
9 XBX SW EPISODE III: SITH LucasArts
10 XBX DESTROY ALL HUMANS! THQ
11 PS2 MADAGASCAR Activision
12 XBX MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN AS Electronic Arts
13 XBX FORZA MOTORSPORT Microsoft
14 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
15 PS2 BATMAN BEGINS Electronic Arts
16 GBA MADAGASCAR Activision
17 XBX LEGO STAR WARS LucasArts
18 PS2 JUICED THQ
19 GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONE Nintendo
20 PS2 MVP BASEBALL 2005 Electronic Arts
21 NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE Nintendo
22 GCN MADAGASCAR Activision

23 PSP NEED SPEED:UND. RIVALS Electronic Arts
24 GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH LucasArts
25 XBX ADVENT RISING Majesco
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on July 22, 2005, 09:47:46 PM
Madagascar for GC #22? Yuck.....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on July 22, 2005, 11:07:56 PM
Quote

Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.


That is still so] retarded.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 22, 2005, 11:33:26 PM
Japanese Daily Sales - July 21, 2005

1 PS2 The Warring States BASARA ???? ACT 2005/7/21
2 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
3 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami

4 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3: Kami wo tsugu Shojo Bandai
5 GBA Bleach Sega
6 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom

7 PS2 ?????????? 11 ??? SLG 2005/7/21
8 PS2 The King of Fighters Neowave SNK
9 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12
10 NDS Full Metal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy Bandai
11 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo

12 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
13 PSP Gate SCE
14 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training
15 GBA Beatle Mushi King GBA

16 PS2 School Rumble: Neru Musume wa Sodatsu Marvellous
17 PS2 New heaven demon boundary generation of chaos V Idea factory SLG 2005/7/21
18 PS2 K-1 World Max 2005 D3 Publishing
19 PS2 FIFA Street Electronic Arts
20 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on July 23, 2005, 04:51:30 AM
Glad to see Mario Baseball rocking!  Also,
Quote

Xbox = 168,000
GCN = 70,000

blol, I was wigging out until I saw that it was ranking in terms of money.  That is really, really retarded.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on July 23, 2005, 11:33:52 PM
Isn't the ranking in dollars only for software?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 24, 2005, 04:56:51 AM
I think he only added the hardware numbers, his comment was aimed at the software top-20.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2005, 01:57:24 PM
Title | LTD | June

Super Mario 64 DS | 1,062,549 | 58,457
Spider-Man 2 | 318,548 | 5,661
WarioWare: Touched! | 289,547 | 32,761
Asphalt Urban GT | 211,518 | 5,806
Madden NFL 2005 | 180,277 | 3,339
The Urbz | 172,561 | 6,851
Yoshi's Touch & Go | 166,788 | 23,776
Pokemon Dash | 101,988 | 12,549
Ridge Racer DS | 90,877 | 2,746
Star Wars Ep 3 | 84,097 | 40,371
Kirby: Canvas Curse | 79,396 | 79,396
Robots | 71,049 | 4,729
Feel The Magic XY/XX | 65,889 | 1,615
Rayman DS | 63,655 | 10,688
Tiger Woods PGA 2005 | 57,433 | 2,934
Mr. Driller | 50,061 | 1,018
Ping Pals | 43,231 | 2,914
Zoo Keeper | 36,334 | 4,531
Need For Speed UG2 | 35,894 | 19,904
Goldeney Rouge Agent | 34,180 | 34,180
Madagascar | 28,953 | 25,500
Sprung | 25,649 | 1,928
Retro Atari | 24,485 | 3,133
Polarium | 19,568 | 5,703
Pac Pix | 19,464 | 7,383
Meteos | 15,695 | 15,695
Bobmerman DS | 12,670 | 12,670
World Poker Champ | 10,633 | 10,633
Puyo Pop Fever | 9,929 | 4,488
Splinter Cell DS | 4,283 | 4,283
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 24, 2005, 08:38:31 PM
Ping Pals | 43,231

This number saddens me... Imagine all the poor souls tortured in the process!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 24, 2005, 09:29:39 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Ping Pals | 43,231

This number saddens me... Imagine all the poor souls tortured in the process!
Have you played ping pals or for matter played it against someone? The real saddness is that polarium hasn't sold more.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on July 25, 2005, 12:18:35 AM
I think Ping Pals is seeing moderate sales because it is now like.. $3 in some places.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2005, 08:36:59 AM
Japanes Daily Sales Charts

July 23:

1 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
2 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
3 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
4 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12
5 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training For Adults Nintendo
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
8 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega

9 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
10 GBA Bleach Sega
11 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom

12 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
13 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
14 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
15 PS2 The King of Fighters Neowave SNK
16 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends Nintendo
17 PS2 pop n' music 11 Konami
18 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
19 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12
20 NDS Full Metal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy Bandai

Nintendo related: 12/20

July 24:

1 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
2 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
3 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
4 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training For Adults Nintendo
5 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega
8 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
9 GBA Bleach Sega

10 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
11 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE
12 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy

13 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
14 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends Nintendo
15 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
16 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
17 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
18 PS2 Minna Daisukai Katamari! Namco
19 NDS Full Metal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy Bandai
20 NDS Nintendogs Chihuahua and Friends Nintendo


Nintendo related: 13/20
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on July 25, 2005, 11:20:40 AM
A Gamecube game at the top of the charts? Hell has frozen over...

Still great to see the huge amount of titles from Nintendo's systems in the top 20, though.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 26, 2005, 07:07:27 PM
July 25th

1 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
2 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
3 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
4 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training For Adults Nintendo
5 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega
8 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami

9 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
10 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
11 GBA Bleach Sega
12 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom

13 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
14 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
15 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
16 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
17 PS2 Minna Daisukai Katamari! Namco
18 PS2 The King of Fighters Neowave SNK
19 NDS Nintendogs Shiba and Friends
20 PS2 pop n' music 11 Konami
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on July 26, 2005, 07:55:17 PM
Wow, over half of the top 20 titles are by Nintendo.  Again =o  Cool.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2005, 01:17:30 PM
July 26th

1 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku Nintendo
2 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
3 GC Super Mario Miracle Baseball Nintendo
4 NDS Work Your Brain: Brain Training for Adults Nintendo
5 GBA Beatle Mushi King Sega
6 PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
7 PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
8 NDS Yugioh! Nightmare Troubadour Konami
9 PS2 Full Metal Alchemist 3 Marvellous
10 NDS Naruto RPG 2 Tommy
11 GBA Bleach Sega
12 PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
13 PS2 Pachislot Onimusha 3 Sega
14 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami
15 PS2 Minna Daisukai Katamari! Namco
16 NDS Rockman 5DS EXE Capcom
17 GC Dance Dance Revolution with Mario Nintendo
18 PS2 K-1 World Max 2005 D3 Publishing
19 PSP Gate SCE
20 PS2 ???? complete capture ogre beach blast running gangsters - intense fighting compilation - Success
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on July 27, 2005, 07:48:56 PM
what is "Gate"?  And why is it bombing so horribly?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 27, 2005, 08:01:18 PM
Yu-Gi-Oh selling more than DDR (WITH MARIO OMG LOLZ).

Shame, 'tis, what Saturday morning cartoons have done to the children.

(Jack Thompson jumps out from behind the desk)
"Won't somebody please think about - !"
(Is shot in the crotch by a sniper several houses away)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 28, 2005, 09:48:23 AM
I think Gate is actually "Earth Gate" aka "Heaven Key" for PSP. And it's probably doing badly, I don't know, because it's a bad game? But I think it was announced a while ago and I think Sony expected it to sell well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 28, 2005, 07:19:11 PM
System sales for July 18 - 24.

DS     41,982
PS2    25,980
PSP    19,043
GBASP    10,935
GC    2,995
GBA    397
Xbox    163

Poor PSP!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on August 03, 2005, 07:03:13 AM
Anyone notice that the DS is not only leading in units sold per week, but also in year-to-date sales over the PS2?

Nintendo DS                41,982  1,190,762
PlayStation 2               25,980  1,184,584
PlayStation Portable    19,043  1,060,529
GameBoy Advance SP  10,935     421,994
GameCube                     2,995     132,994
GameBoy Advance            397        14,740
Xbox                                 163          8,549  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 03, 2005, 09:14:39 AM
Oh really - I didn't know that, but I think it overtook the PSP in YTD sales in May or something. Anyway, good news!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Polyethylene on August 04, 2005, 05:47:35 PM
Hardware July 25 - 31

DS 44,518
PS2 33,705
PSP 20,031
GBASP 12,555
GC 3,147
GBA 530
Xbox 196
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2005, 07:59:33 PM
software

1 - Super Robot Wars Alpha 3 - 470,003
2 - Let's make a pro baseball team 3! - 58,230
3 - Shadow Hearts From the New World - 51,829
4 - Kaido (Genki racer) - 51,512
5 - Fatal Frame 3 - 38,617
6 - The Earth Defense Force 2 Simple Series - 36,604
7 - Boktai 3 - 36,339
8 - Mahou Sensei Negima 2 - 35,378
9 - Brain Training 2 - 31,772
10 - Mushi King - 30,726
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on August 04, 2005, 08:52:23 PM
Does anyone here keep an overall sales number for the DS and PSP in North America? I read posts on other boards saying that the PSP is beating the DS in overall sales in North America, is this true? I know the PSP has been outselling it, but in overall sales that quick? I know what the overall sales number in Japan is;

2,730,876 vs. 1,562,812

Sources/Monthly #'s would be great too.

I am thinking about creating a thread, on G4 Forums, where the DS and PSP stand today. I am going to make a huge, unbiased as can, sales thread how both systems are selling on each continent. This will lead me to my next question, is there a hardware sales update on how the DS is doing in China, Australia or South America (if it is even there)?

Oh yeah, I also have one last question, when was PSP 2.0 firmware update released? I would imagine it increased PSP sales slightly, in both Japan and North America.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 05, 2005, 01:19:56 AM
if you scroll back you will find NPD(north american) data for the last couple of months, I don't remember if it had the totals or not, I'm too lazy to look myself

and the PSP 2.0 update was released a week or so ago iirc. there may or may not be more info on the PSP update in the 'Other Systems' section.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 05, 2005, 01:26:01 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Here's the DS vs PSP spread so far in America, near as I can tell.

-------------------

NDS 2004:
2004 Nov - 479,695 (550,000 unit launch)
2004 Dec - 745,899

NDS 2004 total - 1,225,594
(It was rumored to have been 2 million, but Nintendo's maximum capacity was only 2.8 million, and 1.5 million units got sold in Japan)

-------------------

NDS 2005:
2005 Jan - 152,091
2005 Feb - ???
2005 Mar - ???

2005-March total - 428,000

2005 Apr - ???
2005 May - 57,000

-------------------

PSP:
2005 Mar - 620,000 (on 1,000,000 shipped)
2005 Apr - 351,000
2005 May - 250,000

-------------------

NDS numbers after January do not seem to be available, as NPD seems to be combining them with the GBA for some reason. But they're rumored to be around 50,000 a month from March to May.

NDS:
1,750,000?

PSP:
1,221,000

Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
CSFB

June Hardware Sales

PSP = 294,000
PS2 = 355,000
Xbox = 168,000
GCN = 70,000
GBA/DS = 400,000 (approx)


DS(including bundle) total = 112k


There I did most of the work, I'll let you do the math

hope that helps
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 05, 2005, 09:34:59 AM
Media Create (5 weeks of July)

1 Nintendo DS 198,913
2 PlayStation 2 145,978
3 PSP 20,031 102,390
4 GameBoy Advance SP 56,307
5 GameCube 13,790
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 05, 2005, 10:30:03 AM
Are those Media Create numbers for Japan or North America?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 05, 2005, 12:17:15 PM
does Media Create do #'s for North America?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 05, 2005, 12:38:24 PM
Juding from your question, I'm going to guess no.  But I typically don't really pay attention to the source...I just look for Japanese and American numbers.

EDIT:  My extended arm is better than your extended arm.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 05, 2005, 03:15:24 PM
Just for the record I wasn't trying to be an ass, I thought maybe you knew something that I didn't

REPLY:Thats not what she said!!! OOOHHH!!!  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 08, 2005, 02:16:43 PM
Jump Superstars came out today. I absolutely cannot wait to see how it does. Sadly that's almost two weeks away!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2005, 09:13:46 PM
I hate to say this & I have no idea whats up but JSS did not make the charts

Japanese Daily Sales 08/08/2005

Japanese Daily Sales 08/09/2005  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 09, 2005, 09:35:41 PM
Eh? Don't they count pre-orders for the first week? What the hell? Must be a mistake - I don't even think any of those games broke 300k in the week, and that was what the preorder was for SJS. Unless they don't count pre-orders, and I remember reading that Nintendo only shipped 350k or something of the game, so it could all be gone with only the pre-orders. Dunno...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2005, 09:53:16 PM
Looks like we gotta wait for the Weekly chart to see what JSS sold.

dengeki, media-create & yahoo.japan #'s should all be out by midnight on thursday

edit: apparently JSS has been making the charts ever since last week, I'm guessing that thats when all preorders were counted, and there were barely more than what was preordered shipped to retailers to sell off the shelf.

2nd edit: Some Blog translated into english
according to this blog
JSS sold out of its first 2 shipments equaling 320k
and as a side note Pokemon XD sold 280k
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 11, 2005, 08:16:15 AM
Couldn't you get another source apart from that blog?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 11, 2005, 11:24:10 AM
that blog was the first place to have the info, but official #'s will be out by tonite at midnite I think.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 11, 2005, 07:11:03 PM
The blog lied. According to Media Create Pokemon XD only sold 103,000. Which means those JSS numbers are also fake. FLOP!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Polyethylene on August 11, 2005, 07:41:23 PM
Now JSS is listed.

daily 2005/08/09

daily 2005/08/10

01 - 07 August 2005

Hardware
DS - 43,665
PS2 - 34,057
PSP - 20,571
GBASP - 12,107
GC - 4,445
GBA - 419
Xbox - 228

Software
1. Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - PS2 - 574.000
2. Grandia III (Square Enix) - PS2 - 122.000
3. Pokemon XD : Gale of Darkness (Nintendo) - GC - 103.000
4. Summon Night Extase (Banpresto) - PS2 - 95.000
5. 3rd Super Robot Wars Alpha (Banpresto) - PS2 - 53.000 [523.000]
6. Armored Core : Last Raven (From Software) - PS2 - 49.000
7. Bleach (Sony) - PS2 - 42.000
8. Nintendo DS Logic Puzzle (Nintendo) - NDS - 28.000 [291.000]
9. Mushiking : Battle of the Beetles (Sega) - GBA - 25.000 [425.000]
10. Power Pocket Koushien (Konam) - NDS - 22.000

   
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 11, 2005, 08:09:44 PM
"Which means those JSS numbers are also fake."

But we read 300k copies were preordered, and I think that the shipment was only 350k or something (not sure about either). Let's see some real numbers, and then we will find out what's going
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 12, 2005, 04:17:44 AM
We won't know actual numbers until a week from now. But it's great to see the DS continue to kick butt
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 12, 2005, 04:28:06 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
"Which means those JSS numbers are also fake."

But we read 300k copies were preordered, and I think that the shipment was only 350k or something (not sure about either). Let's see some real numbers, and then we will find out what's going

Yeah, i'm not doubting it sold that much, it's just that those numbers were just a guess.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 12, 2005, 07:38:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
The blog lied. According to Media Create Pokemon XD only sold 103,000. Which means those JSS numbers are also fake. FLOP!


MC's #'s were only for the 1st 4 days, is it possible that P:XD sold almost 100k a day for the next 2 days? I doubt it but it could be possible.

As for JSS, iirc, it was said that they nearly sold out of the initial 1st 2 shipments and it was really hard to find a copy at a store. Im pretty sure that the 1st 2 shipments were barely more than enough to cover the pre-orders
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 12, 2005, 12:35:49 PM
I don't know if this is a localized thing or not (I doubt it is) but have any of you noticed how PSP is alot more advertised along with having a special place in stores when it comes to accessories along with games? I think if this is not localized it could explain why PSP is outselling NDS, it is in the public eye more. Not only that but I am of the opinion it really isn't in the same league as the NDS considering it is also a portable DVD player of sorts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on August 18, 2005, 05:22:36 PM
yeah, the DS really doesnt seem to cater to the casual crowd like the sleek PSP... and I absolutely hate how the PSP generally gets its own case while the DS games are placed amongst the GBA titles.

also, how do you think that white PSP will fare? I'm thinkin it might get dirtier than my ibook.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 19, 2005, 05:38:41 AM
Jump Superstars made a HUGE impact:

DS     103,095
PS2    37,041
PSP    25,100
GBASP    19,958
GC    3,799
GBA    708
Xbox    202

Wow!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Blackknight131 on August 19, 2005, 06:28:14 PM
Sales of the game for the first week peg JSS around 220000....I thought pre-orders alone were over 300k?

Awesome system sales tho.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2005, 06:37:51 PM
Damn, the DS sales engulf everything +20k, that is very impressive(yet right at expectations)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 24, 2005, 07:32:42 PM
Weekly Japanese Sales Chart - Media Create

August 15th - 21st

software:
1. PS2 Naruto: Uzumaki Ninden - Bandai - 96,000 (NEW)
2. NDS Jump Super Stars - Nintendo - 57,000 (278,000)
3. PS2 Winning Eleven 9 - Konami - 56,000 (732,000)
4. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 47,000 (384,000)
5. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 38,000 (422,000)
6. GBA Mushiking - Sega - 29,000 (490,000)
7. GCN Pokemon XD - Pokemon - 22,000 (159,000)
8. GCN Super Mario Stadium Miracle Baseball - Nintendo - 18,000 (139,000)

9. PS2 3rd Super Robot Wars Alpha - Banpresto - 17,000 (566,000)
10. PS2 The Chikyuu Boueigun 2 - D3 Publisher - 16,000 (95,000)

hardware comes tomorrow
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 24, 2005, 11:30:31 PM
Jump Superflop is flopping around. The latest daily sales charts have Adult Brain Training ahead of JSS. It's great to see 2 GC games selling so consistantly well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 24, 2005, 11:53:03 PM
Speaking of Brain Training, anyone know the western release dates on that? It's coming, that much I know, there was an english demo at the GC.

Heh, anyone taking bets on how it'll sell over here?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 25, 2005, 01:15:54 AM
Depends on the price.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2005, 01:22:29 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Jump Superflop is flopping around. The latest daily sales charts have Adult Brain Training ahead of JSS. It's great to see 2 GC games selling so consistantly well.

Brain Training is tough competition, It single handedly beats every PSP game released on a weekly basis.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 25, 2005, 05:28:23 PM
Now Brain Training has moved back up to number ONE on the daily charts, insanity!

Here's the hardware

1. DS: 80,945 (1462984)
2. PS2: 33,292 (1322678)
3. PSP: 23,923 (1150150)
4. GBASP: 16,721 (483335)
5. GC: 3,960 (148345)
6. GBA: 822 (17219)
7. Xbox: 263 (9458)

DS is on fire! This almost makes up for the DS flopping in the rest of the world.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 25, 2005, 06:19:56 PM
It's not flopping, it just has no games elsewhere. It had a very good launch.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on August 25, 2005, 06:51:59 PM
yeah, I dont think that the price drop + Nintendogs wont sky rocket sales in NA, and even if that doesnt work, theres always a pokemon game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 25, 2005, 07:05:03 PM
Well DS is selling more units in a week in Japan than it is in a month in the US, and that's in a country with far less people. Hopefully DS gets a boost in the US soon, Nintendogs might be the ticket.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2005, 07:10:06 PM
any word on Euro sales of DS since its impressive launch some amount of months ago?

I know I linked to a UK/Eur chart site but I'm too lazy to google it right now, got to get ready to go to the club
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 25, 2005, 08:59:27 PM
At GC Nintendo said "over 1 million". Doesn't sound like it's doing too well but then again it was launched here last.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 26, 2005, 11:04:26 AM
Well, in Japan it's just reaching the 3 million mark and they had the added benefit of launching around Christmas.    I think 1 million in Europe is respectable.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on August 27, 2005, 06:38:36 AM
Last I heard the DS has sold 1.3 million units in Europe. With 2.2 million sold here and near 3 million sold in Japan. The DS is doing quite well I think.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 29, 2005, 12:16:54 AM
Didn't see this posted yet

Nintendo LTD - July 2005 (NPD)

---------------------------------

ALL PLATFORMS
-------------
001 NGC Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,877,334
002 GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 - 2,458,378
003 GBA POKEMON RUBY VERSION - 2,385,099
004 GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE VERSION - 2,143,102
005 GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE - 2,076,437
006 GBA MARIO KART: SUPER CIRCUIT - 2,075,332
007 NGC Super Mario Sunshine: 2,070,398
008 NGC The Wind Waker: 1,938,073
009 NGC Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,894,556
010 GBA SUPER MARIO BROS 3: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 4 - 1,838,508
011 NGC Luigi's Mansion: 1,706,933
012 GBA POKEMON FIRERED VERSION - 1,529,060
013 GBA THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK TO PAST - 1,377,926
014 GBA POKEMON LEAFGREEN VERSION - 1,329,857
015 NGC Metroid Prime: 1,304,792
016 GBA POKEMON EMERALD VERSION - 1,288,141
017 GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 3 - 1,150,884
018 NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 1,099,683
019 NGC Animal Crossing: 1,040,158
020 GBA MARIO & LUIGI: SUPERSTAR SAGA - 982,479
021 NGC Mario Party 4: 975,909
022 GBA KIRBY: NIGHTMARE IN DREAMLAND - 969,701
023 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY - 961,838
024 GBA METROID FUSION - 934,760
025 NGC Pokemon Colosseum: 905,924
026 NGC Mario Party 5: 830,330
027 NGC Star Fox Adventures: 819,874
028 GBA GOLDEN SUN - 743,321
029 GBA WARIO LAND 4 - 719,044
030 NGC Mario Party 6: 690,320
031 NGC Pikmin: 678,018
032 NGC Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 658,488
033 NGC Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 643,921
034 GBA FINAL FANTASY TACTICS ADVANCE - 643,544
035 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 - 577,376
036 GBA THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP - 559,895
037 GBA KIRBY AND THE AMAZING MIRROR - 544,997
038 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: SUPER MARIO BROS. - 540,920
039 NGC Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 532,572
040 NGC Kirby Air Ride: 531,255
041 GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG - 525,536
042 GBA POKEMON PINBALL: RUBY & SAPPHIRE - 518,507
043 GBA GOLDEN SUN 2: THE LOST AGE - 470,014
044 GBA METROID ZERO MISSION - 461,668
045 NGC Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 459,777
046 GBA FINAL FANTASY I & II: DAWN OF SOULS - 418,435
047 NGC Mario Power Tennis: 411,955
048 GBA ADVANCE WARS - 401,136 (Still missing Apr 2005)
049 GBA FIRE EMBLEM - 388,913
050 GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK HOLE RISING - 364,175
051 GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND - 361,667
052 NGC Donkey Konga: 354,909
053 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: THE LEGEND OF ZELDA - 353,519
054 NGC Four Swords Adventures: 349,618
055 GBA GAME & WATCH GALLERY 4 - 347,429
056 NGC Wave Race: 333,980
057 NDS WARIO WARE TOUCHED! - 307,224
058 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: DONKEY KONG - 305,604
059 NGC F-Zero GX: 305,257
060 NGC Eternal Darkness: 288,401
061 NGC Pikmin 2: 278,170
062 GBA F-ZERO MAXIMUM VELOCITY - 274,459
063 NGC Wario World: 262,678
064 GBA WARIOWARE INC MEGA MICRO GAME$ - 245,043
065 GBA SWORD OF MANA - 240,939
066 NGC Star Fox Assault: 238,480
067 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: DR. MARIO - 228,002
068 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: ZELDA II: ADVENTURE OF LINK - 224,477
069 GBA MARIO GOLF ADVANCE TOUR - 221,741
070 GBA HAMTARO: HAM HAM HEARTBREAK - 204,158
071 NGC Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: 195,184
072 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: PAC-MAN - 195,097
073 GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES - 193,916
074 GBA MARIO PARTY ADVANCE - 191,287
075 NDS YOSHI TOUCH AND GO - 180,998
076 NGC Pokemon Channel: 180,728
077 NGC Custom Robo: 173,242
078 NGC Preview Disk: 172,627
079 GBA POKEMON: JOHTO PHOTO FINISH (VOL. 1) - 168,556
080 NGC NBA Courtside 2002: 160,699
081 NGC 1080 Avalanche: 151,394
082 NGC Wario Ware Inc: 134,227
083 GBA POKEMON: FOR HO-OH THE BELLS TOLL (VOL 3) - 131,504
084 NDS KIRBY CANVAS CURSE - 128,454
085 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: METROID - 126,137
086 NGC Magical Mirror: 125,069
087 GBA DISNEY'S MAGICAL QUEST - 124,786
088 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: CASTLEVANIA - 111,165
089 NDS POKEMON DASH - 111,141
090 GBA WARIO WARE TWISTED! - 100,576
091 GBA HAMTARO: HAM-HAM GAMES - 91,973
092 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: EXCITEBIKE - 71,782
093 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: ICE CLIMBER - 62,193
094 GBA POKEMON: I CHOOSE YOU! - 60,252
095 NGC Donkey Konga 2: 59,690
096 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: BOMBERMAN - 58,928
097 GBA POKEMON: BEACH BLANK-OUT BLASTOISE - 47,958
098 GBA CLASSIC NES SERIES: XEVIOUS - 46,417
099 NDS METEOS - 39,579
100 GBA F-ZERO: GP LEGEND - 33,243
101 GBA YOSHI TOPSY-TURVY - 26,854
102 NDS POLARIUM - 22,147

---------------------------------

Nintendo DS
-----------
SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 1,099,683
WARIO WARE TOUCHED! - 307,224
YOSHI TOUCH AND GO - 180,998
KIRBY CANVAS CURSE - 128,454
POKEMON DASH - 111,141
METEOS - 39,579
POLARIUM - 22,147

---------------------------------

GameBoy Advance
---------------
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 - 2,458,378
POKEMON RUBY VERSION - 2,385,099
POKEMON SAPPHIRE VERSION - 2,143,102
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE - 2,076,437
MARIO KART: SUPER CIRCUIT - 2,075,332
SUPER MARIO BROS 3: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 4 - 1,838,508
POKEMON FIRERED VERSION - 1,529,060
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK TO PAST - 1,377,926
POKEMON LEAFGREEN VERSION - 1,329,857
POKEMON EMERALD VERSION - 1,288,141
YOSHI'S ISLAND: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 3 - 1,150,884
MARIO & LUIGI: SUPERSTAR SAGA - 982,479
KIRBY: NIGHTMARE IN DREAMLAND - 969,701
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY - 961,838
METROID FUSION - 934,760
GOLDEN SUN - 743,321
WARIO LAND 4 - 719,044
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS ADVANCE - 643,544
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 - 577,376
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP - 559,895
KIRBY AND THE AMAZING MIRROR - 544,997
CLASSIC NES SERIES: SUPER MARIO BROS. - 540,920
MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG - 525,536
POKEMON PINBALL: RUBY & SAPPHIRE - 518,507
GOLDEN SUN 2: THE LOST AGE - 470,014
METROID ZERO MISSION - 461,668
FINAL FANTASY I & II: DAWN OF SOULS - 418,435
ADVANCE WARS - 401,136 (Still missing Apr 2005)
FIRE EMBLEM - 388,913
ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK HOLE RISING - 364,175
MARIO PINBALL LAND - 361,667
CLASSIC NES SERIES: THE LEGEND OF ZELDA - 353,519
GAME & WATCH GALLERY 4 - 347,429
CLASSIC NES SERIES: DONKEY KONG - 305,604
F-ZERO MAXIMUM VELOCITY - 274,459
WARIOWARE INC MEGA MICRO GAME$ - 245,043
SWORD OF MANA - 240,939
CLASSIC NES SERIES: DR. MARIO - 228,002
CLASSIC NES SERIES: ZELDA II: ADVENTURE OF LINK - 224,477
MARIO GOLF ADVANCE TOUR - 221,741
HAMTARO: HAM HAM HEARTBREAK - 204,158
CLASSIC NES SERIES: PAC-MAN - 195,097
FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES - 193,916
MARIO PARTY ADVANCE - 191,287
POKEMON: JOHTO PHOTO FINISH (VOL. 1) - 168,556
DISNEY'S MAGICAL QUEST - 124,786
POKEMON: FOR HO-OH THE BELLS TOLL (VOL 3) - 131,504
CLASSIC NES SERIES: METROID - 126,137
CLASSIC NES SERIES: CASTLEVANIA - 111,165
WARIO WARE TWISTED! - 100,576
HAMTARO: HAM-HAM GAMES - 91,973
CLASSIC NES SERIES: EXCITEBIKE - 71,782
CLASSIC NES SERIES: ICE CLIMBER - 62,193
POKEMON: I CHOOSE YOU! - 60,252
CLASSIC NES SERIES: BOMBERMAN - 58,928
CLASSIC NES SERIES: XEVIOUS - 46,417
POKEMON: BEACH BLANK-OUT BLASTOISE - 47,958
F-ZERO: GP LEGEND - 33,243
YOSHI TOPSY-TURVY - 26,854

---------------------------------

Nintendo GameCube
-----------------
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,877,334
Super Mario Sunshine: 2,070,398
The Wind Waker: 1,938,073
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,894,556
Luigi's Mansion: 1,706,933
Metroid Prime: 1,304,792
Animal Crossing: 1,040,158
Mario Party 4: 975,909
Pokemon Colosseum: 905,924
Mario Party 5: 830,330
Star Fox Adventures: 819,874
Pikmin: 678,018
Mario Party 6: 690,320
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 658,488
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 643,921
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 532,572
Kirby Air Ride: 531,255
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 459,777
Mario Power Tennis: 411,955
Donkey Konga: 354,909
Four Swords Adventures: 349,618
Wave Race: 333,980
F-Zero GX: 305,257
Eternal Darkness: 288,401
Pikmin 2: 278,170
Wario World: 262,678
Star Fox Assault: 238,480
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: 195,184
Pokemon Channel: 180,728
Custom Robo: 173,242
Preview Disk: 172,627
NBA Courtside 2002: 160,699
1080 Avalanche: 151,394
Wario Ware Inc: 134,227
Magical Mirror: 125,069
Donkey Konga 2: 59,690
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 01, 2005, 05:24:54 AM
Interesting that Wario Ware Touched is already the highest selling Ware Ware title.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 01, 2005, 09:01:34 AM
R U ready for this news?  Its Nintendogs US sales for its first week.

Kotaku.com
Quote

The numbers are in and people really do love Nintendogs. The DS-only puppy simulator sold about 250,000 copies in its first week, according to Nintendo. Tendo goes on to say that the game is both America’s hottest selling video game and the best-selling new game franchise ever to hit a portable system.

Nearly 15 percent of all DS owners bought Nintendogs in just a week, a virtually unprecedented adoption rate for any title on an established system. And it’s also helping sell new DS hardware. Coupled with a price drop to $129.99, retailers are reporting DS sales up between one and a half and three times previous levels, and last week DS comfortably outsold our portable competitors


I guess those commercials hit their intended targeted audience afterall.

p.s. what were the Japanese #'s for this game?

edit: already posted on the main page

from someone reliable
Quote

Nintendogs in the US sold 220,000 units in the first 5 days. - Dachshund sold the most with 85,000 - with Lab Retriever selling 70,000 and Chihuahua selling about 65,000.

DS Hardware went from 17,000 the previous week to 50,000 the week of Nintendogs' launch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 01, 2005, 03:03:15 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
p.s. what were the Japanese #'s for this game?

from someone reliable
Quote

Nintendogs in the US sold 220,000 units in the first 5 days. - Dachshund sold the most with 85,000 - with Lab Retriever selling 70,000 and Chihuahua selling about 65,000.

DS Hardware went from 17,000 the previous week to 50,000 the week of Nintendogs' launch.



to answer my own question.....

Japanese software sales April 18 - April 24: (launch of nintendogs)

#. - Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales)
1. PS2 Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song - Square Enix - 217,000 (new)
2. NGC Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki - Nintendo - 102,000 (new)
3. NDS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 - Tomy - 84,000 (new)
4. NDS Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends - Nintendo - 83,000 (new)
5. NDS Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends - Nintendo - 53,000 (new)
6. NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends - Nintendo - 46,000 (new)

7. PS2 Baseball L!ve 2005 - Namco - 44,000 (new)
8. GBA Rockman Zero 4 (Mega Man Zero 4) - Capcom - 38,000 (new)
9. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: 1 Year War - Bandai - 30,000 (234,000)
10. PSP Shutokou Battle: Zone of Control - Genki - 29,000 (new)
(Nintedogs 182k in its first few days of release.)

Looks like Nintendogs had a much better launch than in the US than in Japan
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 01, 2005, 05:07:35 PM
Speaking of Japanese sales...

DS     57,313
PS2    27,161
PSP    20,322
GBASP    11,144
GC    2,586
GBA    652
Xbox    130
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on September 01, 2005, 05:26:03 PM
seems like DS numbers are starting to get back to normal lol poor GC
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on September 01, 2005, 06:11:50 PM
Don't you mean "lol poor 2,586 Japanese kids who've parents accidentally bought them a Cube"?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 01, 2005, 06:42:58 PM
Or poor stupid 130 Japanese people accidentally buying an Xbox, thinking it was a home Theatre System......
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 01, 2005, 08:23:44 PM
Even now, Xbox numbers are still funny. It's like a running joke.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 01, 2005, 08:32:01 PM
I think those 130 new Xbox owners just bought it so they'd feel special for making such a dent in the charts! "The POWER!"
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 06, 2005, 07:27:54 PM
They'd make a much more impressive dent if they would throw it at the charts! "The POWER!" LOL
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NRevolutionR on September 07, 2005, 12:36:30 PM
Heh yall,

I could really use some help, can yall provide me with links to US sales figures, Euro sales figures, and Aussie sales figures.  I tried Google and all I got was a buncjh of BS.


Also, how do you provide a link to your site in your slogan thing?



For those that want to see what I am trying to accomplish, here is a direct link  Here
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 07, 2005, 01:14:24 PM
the only US charts are the NPD 's and those cost about $15,000 annually and are not readily available to the public, however you can find the #'s in this here very thread, I think for every month so far this year +some.

As far as Euro #'s I provided a link to those(i think it was UK though) somewhere in this thread too, but you're gonna have to look for yourself.

Aussie #'s..... your on your own with that one....

edit: making an addition

DS vs PSP - from the beginning
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 07, 2005, 11:25:46 PM
BlackNMild2k1, where would we be without you!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 08, 2005, 09:35:57 AM
We would be in a better place for not caring about sales numbers!

holla blacknmild, no worries
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Tonyny13 on September 08, 2005, 01:25:34 PM
Is not doing soo bad  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2005, 07:30:01 PM
well here ius more for you to not care about

media create 8/29-9/04

1. PS2 Tales of Legendia - 52,000 (294,000)
2. NDS DS Training For Adults - 34,000 (487,000)
3. NDS Gentle Brain Exercises - 31,000 (444,000)
4. PS2 Gundam Seed Destiny: Generation of C.E. - 28,000 (146,000)
5. PSP BLEACH 2 - 26,000 NEW
6. NDS Jump Super Stars - 22,000 (327,000)
7. PS2 Winning Eleven 9 - 21,000 (783,000)
8. PS2 Naruto Uzumaki Ninden - 17,000 (147,000)
9. GBA Mushiking - Sega - 13,000 (518,000)
10. PS2 Winning Post 7 - 11,000 (39,000)

DS 58,579
PS2 26,282
PSP 22,610
GBASP 11,081
GC 2,388
GBA 538
Xbox 198
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: trip1eX on September 09, 2005, 12:17:05 PM
Nintendo's handheld sales are about 76% of the Japanese market.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on September 09, 2005, 12:50:32 PM
I have to ask, where did you get that figure from?

Of last week's top ten, Nintendo handhelds account for 39% of the sales.  If you count total sales of the games in last week's top ten Nintendo handhelds account for 55%.  If you count hardware sales for last week they account for 58%.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: trip1eX on September 09, 2005, 08:59:38 PM
 I'm talking units sold in the Japanese handheld market.

I wonder if the PSP is  taking away business from Nintendo much or creating a new market?  

I am a bit worried that  the PSP will pick up steam in a year or two when it falls in price and the game library grows, memory stick prices fall further and umds get cheaper and more plentiful.  

But then again I think it's appeal is more multimedia.  


 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 10, 2005, 08:55:11 AM
in a year or two GBE will be released and and it will be too late for PSP to pick up steam, cause it will get steam rolled by the 3 Nintendo pillars of the time
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 10, 2005, 12:59:18 PM
NPD for August 2005

August Hardware Sales

PSP = 167,000
PS2 = 253,000
Xbox = 134,000
GCN = 53,000
GBA = 180,000 (approx)
DS = up 26% over July

August Top 25 Software Sales

US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher

1 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
2 XBX MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
3 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 06 Electronic Arts
4 GCN MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
5 XBX DELTA FORCE: BLACK HAWK DOW Ubi Soft
6 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo
7 XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 06 Electronic Arts
8 XBX T. CLANCYS RECON 2: STRIK E Ubi Soft
9 XBX DARKW ATCH Capcom
10 NDS N INTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRI Nintendo
11 PS2 DELTA FORCE: BLACK HAWK DOW Ubi Soft
12 NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIE Nintendo
13 PSP MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB EDITIO Take Two Interactive
14 PS2 LEGO STAR W ARS LucasArts
15 PS2 DESTROY ALL HUMANS! THQ
16 NDS N INTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRI Nintendo
17 GBA DRAGONBALL GT: TRANSFORM Atari
18 PS2 DARKW ATCH Capcom
19 PS2 M IDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB Take Two Interactive
20 PS2 FLATOUT Vivendi
21 PS2 FANTASTIC 4 Activision
22 NDS ADVANCE W ARS : DUAL STRIKE Nintendo
23 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
24 PS2 CHARLIE CHOCOLATE FACTORY Take Two Interactive
25 PS2 MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN AS Electronic Arts
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.

Madden (All consoles): 2.2 Million

Nintendogs (all): 209,727
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 10, 2005, 01:09:15 PM
Quote

1 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
2 XBX MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
3 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 06 Electronic Arts
4 GCN MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts

*snap*
*crack*
*flush*

That was the sound of all my hope.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 10, 2005, 01:13:41 PM
Whoa, that should BUILD hopes! A GCN sports game that sold well!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on September 10, 2005, 02:45:30 PM
ARGH Quit ranking them in terms of profit.

And whoa, what is with the ridiculously low Madden Sales?

Doesn't usually go up to 3 million in the first months?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 10, 2005, 04:47:30 PM
Quote

PSP = 167,000
GBA = 180,000


Yes!

Quote

22 NDS ADVANCE WARS : DUAL STRIKE Nintendo


YES!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Berto2K on September 10, 2005, 05:30:58 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Whoa, that should BUILD hopes! A GCN sports game that sold well!


to be fair, the nintendo versions were pretty much the only ones advertised by EA themselves unless it was a third party commercial like Walmart who featured them all.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on September 11, 2005, 05:01:19 PM
why is the DS numbers always so cryptic in NPD data O_o? why they dont just release the numbers plain and simple?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on September 11, 2005, 05:41:23 PM
berto's right; EA knows that the Sony and MS versions will sell regardless; they need to market the GC one just so we stubborn nitnendo fans will try out another developer's game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on September 11, 2005, 05:57:45 PM
At least I try games from other developers, if they are worth it, and Madden isnt
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 11, 2005, 06:59:40 PM
I heard Madden takes up a billion blocks on the GC memory card, it's not worth all the trouble. If EA are gonna be lazy like that, i'm going to be lazy and not even play their games.

Also Madden sales aren't down from last year, they're slightly UP.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 11, 2005, 07:45:07 PM
Wasn't there a record amount of copies sold in the first week? Probably because of the exclusivity recently acquired.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 12, 2005, 07:23:18 PM
Nintendo platforms LTD August 2005

Nintendo GameCube
Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,909,585
Super Mario Sunshine: 2,100,334
The Wind Waker: 1,956,861
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,903,955
Luigi's Mansion: 1,718,470
Metroid Prime: 1,308,052
Animal Crossing: 1,062,012
Mario Party 4: 977,513
Pokemon Colosseum: 934,985
Mario Party 5: 831,269
Star Fox Adventures: 821,771
Mario Party 6: 706,708
Pikmin: 678,379
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 671,415
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 649,086
Kirby Air Ride: 550,968
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 535,784
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 463,586
Mario Power Tennis: 420,228
Donkey Konga: 357,280
Four Swords Adventures: 352,534
Wave Race: 336,172
F-Zero GX: 307,308
Eternal Darkness: 288,654
Pikmin 2: 281,055
Wario World: 263,264
Star Fox Assault: 247,808
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: 207,615
Pokemon Channel: 182,246
Custom Robo: 175,304
Preview Disk: 172,709
NBA Courtside 2002: 160,796
1080 Avalanche: 154,489
Wario Ware Inc: 136,825
Magical Mirror: 125,302
Donkey Konga 2: 69,356
Geist: 10,393


Nintendo DS
SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 1,120,130
WARIO WARE TOUCHED! - 320,850
YOSHI TOUCH AND GO - 180,998
KIRBY CANVAS CURSE - 155,335
POKEMON DASH - 118,651
NINTENDOGS: MINIATURE DACHSHUND & FRIENDS - 81,979
NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR RETRIEVER & FRIENDS - 67,285
NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS - 60,463
METEOS - 52,366
ADVANCE WARS: DUAL STRIKE - 44,293
POLARIUM - 23,779

*Super Mario 64DS breaks 1.1M.
*Wario Ware Touched breaks 320K
*Yoshi Touch and Go breaks 180K.
*Kirby Canvas Curse breaks 150K.
*Meteos surpasses 50K.
*Nintendogs enters at 209K.


GameBoy Advance
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 - 2,459,023
POKEMON RUBY VERSION - 2,393,940
POKEMON SAPPHIRE VERSION - 2,151,319
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE - 2,076,482
MARIO KART: SUPER CIRCUIT - 2,080,106
SUPER MARIO BROS 3: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 4 - 1,860,306
POKEMON FIRERED VERSION - 1,547,803
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK TO PAST - 1,382,067
POKEMON EMERALD VERSION - 1,369,380
POKEMON LEAFGREEN VERSION - 1,348,600
YOSHI'S ISLAND: SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 3 - 1,151,232
MARIO & LUIGI: SUPERSTAR SAGA - 987,871
KIRBY: NIGHTMARE IN DREAMLAND - 970,388
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY - 961,993
METROID FUSION - 936,525
GOLDEN SUN - 743,327
WARIO LAND 4 - 719,055
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS ADVANCE - 645,195
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 - 587,349
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP - 578,517
KIRBY AND THE AMAZING MIRROR - 557,927
CLASSIC NES SERIES: SUPER MARIO BROS. - 546,167
MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG - 529,983
POKEMON PINBALL: RUBY & SAPPHIRE - 526,172
GOLDEN SUN 2: THE LOST AGE - 471,300
METROID ZERO MISSION - 464,099
FINAL FANTASY I & II: DAWN OF SOULS - 424,781
ADVANCE WARS - 401,147 (Still missing Apr 2005)
FIRE EMBLEM - 389,974
ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK HOLE RISING - 365,533
MARIO PINBALL LAND - 364,896
CLASSIC NES SERIES: THE LEGEND OF ZELDA - 357,761
GAME & WATCH GALLERY 4 - 347,448
CLASSIC NES SERIES: DONKEY KONG - 311,670
F-ZERO MAXIMUM VELOCITY - 274,479
WARIOWARE INC MEGA MICRO GAME$ - 245,572
SWORD OF MANA - 241,560
CLASSIC NES SERIES: ZELDA II: ADVENTURE OF LINK - 237,868
CLASSIC NES SERIES: DR. MARIO - 233,244
MARIO GOLF ADVANCE TOUR - 225,485
FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES - 218,574
MARIO PARTY ADVANCE - 213,516
HAMTARO: HAM HAM HEARTBREAK - 204,400
CLASSIC NES SERIES: PAC-MAN - 196,820
POKEMON: JOHTO PHOTO FINISH (VOL. 1) - 173,069
CLASSIC NES SERIES: METROID - 135,992
POKEMON: FOR HO-OH THE BELLS TOLL (VOL 2) - 135,201
DISNEY'S MAGICAL QUEST - 124,833
CLASSIC NES SERIES: CASTLEVANIA - 114,347
WARIO WARE TWISTED! - 114,195
HAMTARO: HAM-HAM GAMES - 94,292
CLASSIC NES SERIES: EXCITEBIKE - 72,418
CLASSIC NES SERIES: ICE CLIMBER - 65,214
POKEMON: I CHOOSE YOU! - 64,083
CLASSIC NES SERIES: BOMBERMAN - 60,638
CLASSIC NES SERIES: XEVIOUS - 47,580
POKEMON: BEACH BLANK-OUT BLASTOISE - 51,492
YOSHI TOPSY-TURVY - 43,820
F-ZERO: GP LEGEND - 34,382

*Pokemon Emerald breaks 1.3M.
*Pokemon Emerald surpassed Pokemon Leaf Green.
*Donkey Kong Classic breaks 310K.
*Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland breaks 970K.
*Dr. Mario Classic breaks 230K.
*Zelda II Classic breaks 230K and surpassed Dr. Mario Classic.
*Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones breaks 210K.
*Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones surpassed Pac Man Classic and Hamtaro Heartbreak.
*Mario Party Advance breaks 210K.
*Mario Party Advance surpassed Pac Man Classic and Hamtaro Heartbreak.
*Pokemon Video 1 broke 170K.
*Metroid Classic breaks 130K.
*Metroid Classic surpassed Pokemon Video 2.
*Wario Ware Twisted breaks 110K.
*Bomberman Classic breaks 60K.
*Pokemon: Beach Blankout Blastoise breaks 50K.
*Yoshi Topsy Turvy breaks 40K.
*Yoshi Topsy Turvy surpassed F-Zero GP Legend.
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: thepoga on September 12, 2005, 08:43:27 PM
how come Meteos did so badly? It was the best game of the summer!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 12, 2005, 10:32:36 PM
Because nobody knows what it is.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on September 13, 2005, 06:15:02 AM
That's a shame. I have 9 DS games, and Meteos gets the most time.

It's weird that the game that gets the less time is the best selling game, SM64DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: trip1eX on September 13, 2005, 06:22:09 AM
i was at my local Better Buy and the Nintendogs games were cleared out.  LIke all gone.  Completely sold out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 13, 2005, 06:30:32 AM
Yeah, I can't find Nintendogs or Sacred Stones anywhere.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on September 13, 2005, 08:49:23 AM
Quote

Geist: 10,393
Poor Geist.  Poor, poor Geist.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 13, 2005, 09:56:42 AM
Geist is like the most underappreciated game ever made.  It makes me sad.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2005, 10:21:13 AM
I hate everyone that didn't buy Geist, just so you all know that... >=|
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 13, 2005, 10:41:07 AM
If I had Money and TIME to play Geist I would buy it...does that count.  I don't have the time I had before at all though.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 13, 2005, 10:54:56 AM
Did they even advertise geist? I don't remember seeing a single commercial. Nintendo really needs to ramp up the advertising budget and get some fresh minds in on the advertising campaign train.

They should have advertised the hell out of this game right before 'The Exorcism of Emily Rose' movie
They should also update their demo kiosk more than every 4-6 months... is there even a demo out?

Advertising Campaign Train

Nintendo needs to get their A.C.T. together
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 13, 2005, 10:59:38 AM
There's been a demo out for a while now, and there were planty of commercials for about 2-3 weeks.  Nintendo probably knew this game was doomed form the start though, so why waste a ton of advertising money on it?  A mature rated first person adventure game with mediocre graphics released late on the gamecube does not sound like a winner no matter how much you push it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on September 13, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
See? this is why we will get Mario Party 23 before we get a Geist 2.  Or Eternal Darkness 2, or Killer 7 2, or Beyond Good & Evil 2...    
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris1 on September 13, 2005, 11:31:30 AM
oh there were plenty of Geist commercials, especially on Mtv, so they did advertise that one quite a bit, and still are maybe, as i saw one as recetnly as yesterday
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 13, 2005, 01:07:21 PM
well I hate MTV and only watch it accidentally when someone else already has it on the TV.
although I do like one show on MTV - Nick Cannons Wild'N'Out

I think I saw one commercial once and that was it, they should have just delayed it to REV and completely revamped the graphics for next-gen, needless to say I will buy the game once it hits the $20.00 bargain bin (which should be pretty soon)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on September 14, 2005, 06:21:53 AM
You know what's sad? Those Polarium numbers. Polarium is a good game and yet, no one buys it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on September 14, 2005, 12:41:06 PM
They need to advertise on TCM. Then I can see the commercials and feel confident that NOA are on the right Track. Also VH1 Classic.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 16, 2005, 06:29:51 AM
Sales for this week:

DS     47,239
PS2    26,156
PSP    22,133
GBASP    8,997
GC    1,923
GBA    506
Xbox    118

When did the white PSP come out? Surely it can't be within this period.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 1day on September 16, 2005, 02:48:17 PM
The amazing looking white PSP came out on the 15th, along with the Winning Eleven Game. We'll see how this combo does soon enough.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2005, 07:53:30 PM
Media Create 9/12-9/18

1 PS2 Shin Sanghoku Musou 4 Moshouden (???) - 203,000 (NEW)
2 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) - 187,000 (NEW)
3 NDS Tamagotchi (???) - 150,000 (150,000)
4 PSP WE9 UE (Konami) - 107,000 (NEW)
5 GBA Super Robot Taisen J (???) - 95,000 (NEW)
6 NDS Gyakuten Saiban DS (Capcom) - 65,000 (NEW)
7 GBA Dr. Mario + Panel de Pon (Nintendo) - 53,000 (NEW)
8 NDS Brain Training (Nintendo) - 37,000 (552,000)
9 GBA Mario Tennis Advance (Nintendo) - 34,000 (NEW)
10 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) - 24,000 (491,000)

Insane sales by Super Mario Bros re-re-re-re-release. PSP's "killer app" got  beaten by Tamagotchi on DS. Phoenix Wright (Gyakuten Saiban DS) actually has another limited edition version which sold about the same as it in the daily charts, so it's probably like #11 or #12 here, so the game did very well. Also incredible continued sales from both Brain Trainings, which are now over a million combined. It's impressive they stayed on with all these new releases, they'll probably move back UP after this.

Third pillar indeed.

Hardware sales soon.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 21, 2005, 08:22:44 PM
This should be a big week for PSP, with the white version. It SHOULD top the charts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2005, 08:37:26 PM
Gameboy Micro will top the hardware charts.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 21, 2005, 11:01:41 PM
unofficial hardware #'s - Famitsu?

1 GBA M 148,000
2 DS 62,000
3 PSP 55,000
4 PS2 23,000
5 GBA SP 14,000
6 GC 2,000

GBAm + DS = 210,000!!

poor psp...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2005, 11:22:48 PM
Hahaha, that was the only chance PSP had of outselling DS for the rest of the year, looks like my "PSP will never outsell DS again" prediction from a few months ago was right.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 22, 2005, 04:26:40 AM
Door lord! If those are really the PSP #s then Sony must be crying pretty hard right now.

If only America followed.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 22, 2005, 06:08:56 AM
I doubt Sony is crying.  55,000 is fine, I bet the PSP is doing better than any Sega system ever has in Japan, and probably better than the N64, too.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on September 22, 2005, 06:27:07 AM
Sony crying? More like advertising the heck out of PSP. I've started to see the same launch adds running almost on every channel, exclusives on the PSP's capabilities on local newspapers and even on local radio. It's crazy.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 22, 2005, 06:53:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I doubt Sony is crying.  55,000 is fine, I bet the PSP is doing better than any Sega system ever has in Japan, and probably better than the N64, too.


When the PSP sells 36 million units it'll be doing as good as the N64.

Why do people think the N64 was a big flop?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 22, 2005, 07:39:18 AM
So, what's the monthly sellthrough worldwide for DS and PSP? That would make a much better comparison.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 22, 2005, 09:25:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
So, what's the monthly sellthrough worldwide for DS and PSP? That would make a much better comparison.

I have the japanese sales from the beggining, If you want US sales, you're gonna have to compile the data yourself for now(long search through this thread for NPD data), but its better than nothing

Japanese sales DS vs PSP from the beggining till august  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 22, 2005, 04:41:49 PM
GBM     170,306
DS    72,167
PSP    70,152
PS2    24,396
GBASP    11,147
GC    1,882
GBA    624
Xbox    109

Those are the officials. I'd say it's likely the PSP will never top the charts again. Ouch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on September 23, 2005, 03:37:37 AM
Someone needs to update that list of PSP vs DS...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 28, 2005, 07:34:12 PM
Media Create 19 - 25 September

1. NDS Tamagotchi no Petit Petit Omisettchi - Bandai - 55,000 (205,000)
2. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moshouden - Koei - 54,000 (257,000)
3. GBA Famicom Mini Super Mario Bros 20th Anniversary Reprint - Nintendo - 51,000 (238,000)
4. PS2 Rhapsodia - Konami - 43,000 (new)
5. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 39,000 (591,000)
6. PSP Gundam Battle Tactics - Bandai - 37,000 (new)
7. PSP Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Edition - Konami - 29,000 (136,000)
8. GBA Super Robot Taisen J - Banpresto - 28,000 (124,000)
9. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 25,000 (516,000)
10. PS2 Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3 - Koei - 21,000 (new)

Hardware soon.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on September 28, 2005, 10:36:05 PM
Handhelds are really cleaning up in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 29, 2005, 06:34:24 PM
And the whoop-butt continues:

DS     68,123
PSP    50,629
GBM    46,529
PS2    25,518
GBASP    12,483
GC    2,267
GBA    448
Xbox    98
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on September 29, 2005, 06:56:47 PM
My new amusement is seeing how low the Xbox can go, now that it has hit double digits.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: thepoga on September 29, 2005, 07:32:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I doubt Sony is crying.  55,000 is fine, I bet the PSP is doing better than any Sega system ever has in Japan, and probably better than the N64, too.


When the PSP sells 36 million units it'll be doing as good as the N64.


As GOOD as your grammar?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 29, 2005, 10:58:45 PM
Xbox 98

I can predict sales for the next week:

Xbox ME
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 30, 2005, 12:07:00 AM
Please tell me that's not Tamagotchi heading that software sales list.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2005, 12:35:23 AM
It might be a typo.

Tama-got-CHU!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: OptimusPrime on September 30, 2005, 01:06:13 AM
OK...with who is the PSP competing here again... the DS? getting its ass kicked....the GBM? can just overcome it ....but if you take combined numbers off al only-GBA-based hardware ( GBA, GBASP and GBM) it's getting its ass kicked again.
I like Nintendo's 2 and half to one advantage here, it gives the amount off asskicking the PSP is getting in Japan...Xbox sales are intresting too... I wonder, are they buying them as gameconsoles or as teatables that can play DVD's?

Oh yes, 60% of all Japanese hardware sales are Nintendo portables.... jeezs...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on September 30, 2005, 03:27:39 AM
Well I have no doubt that it's entirely 'enthusiast' if not 'hardcore' gamers buying the Xbox at this point. They're probably modding them into something more useful, also.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 30, 2005, 06:42:21 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: thepoga
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I doubt Sony is crying.  55,000 is fine, I bet the PSP is doing better than any Sega system ever has in Japan, and probably better than the N64, too.


When the PSP sells 36 million units it'll be doing as good as the N64.


As GOOD as your grammar?


You're so insecure about yourself you have to go around on internet message boards picking out when people say good instead of well? I pity you.

Try contributing to conversation and discourse instead of picking fights.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 30, 2005, 06:53:34 AM
On a slightly silly note, the GameFaqs poll today is rather interesting. It asks people which October release they're most anticipating. Normally I discount the GameFaqs polls for any true reading, but Castlevania: DS is beating GTA: LS by 8% for top spot. This is odd because GTA has been in the top 10 faqs since it came out on the PS2, and a Castlevania game isn't even in the top 50. Odd.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 30, 2005, 08:47:58 AM
Quote

You're so insecure about yourself you have to go around on internet message boards picking out when people say good instead of well?


How in Freud's name is that a sign of insecurity?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 30, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Quote

You're so insecure about yourself you have to go around on internet message boards picking out when people say good instead of well?


How in Freud's name is that a sign of insecurity?


When people nit pick over things like that during conversation it tends to be a pet peeve, but to go into a message board where you're not talking at a constant pace and do it shows an obsession with the criticism of others. Obsessive critics tend to be so as a distraction for their own insecurities. Freud, for example...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on September 30, 2005, 12:12:54 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
[T]he GameFaqs poll today is rather interesting. It asks people which October release they're most anticipating. Normally I discount the GameFaqs polls for any true reading, but Castlevania: DS is beating GTA: LS by 8% for top spot.
So you discount GameFAQs when it doesn't line up with your preconceived notions, but when it does you pay attention?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 30, 2005, 12:19:13 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
[T]he GameFaqs poll today is rather interesting. It asks people which October release they're most anticipating. Normally I discount the GameFaqs polls for any true reading, but Castlevania: DS is beating GTA: LS by 8% for top spot.
So you discount GameFAQs when it doesn't line up with your preconceived notions, but when it does you pay attention?


Not at all. I said "on a slightly silly note". I thought it was interesting because usually the polls are predictable. If you notice I didn't say that meant it would sell better than GTA.

Or should I just refrain from posting interesting things in the future?

This site has gotten so bitchy in the past few months it's sad.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 30, 2005, 01:47:07 PM
true
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on October 02, 2005, 01:06:55 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus

This site has gotten so bitchy in the past few months it's sad.


QFT
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on October 04, 2005, 05:26:16 AM
Quantum Feedback Theory? Quality Food Training? Q'bert's Fun Treehouse?

Oh, wait, I know.

Quite the Fantastic Thought.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 04, 2005, 05:34:26 AM
Quit F*cken Trolling?

Quoted For Truth I think it is.

Oh er, sales! Here!

Quote

Saturday October 1st

1 GBA Famimini SMB (rerelease) Nintendo Co. ACT 2005/9/13
2 NDS Tamagocchi Bandai ETC 2005/9/15
3 NDS Brain Training Nintendo Co. ETC 2005/5/19
4 NDS Soft Brain Training Nintendo Co. PUZ 2005/6/30
5 PS2 DW5 Moshouden Koei ACT 2005/9/15
6 PS2 Urban Reign Namco ACT 2005/9/29
7 GBA Dr. Mario & Panel de Pon Nintendo Co. PUZ 2005/9/13
8 PSP World soccer Winning 11 9 UE Konami SPT 2005/9/15
9 GBA Road to beetle ace Mushiking - Greatest champion - Sega RPG 2005/6/23
10 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS Nintendo Co. ACT 2005/8/8
11 GBA Super Robot Wars J Banpresto SLG 2005/9/15
12 GBA Mario Tennis Advance Nintendo Co. SPT 2005/9/13
13 PS2 World soccer Winning 11 9 Konami SPT 2005/8/4
14 NDS Gyakuten Saiban Capcom AVG 2005/9/15
15 PSP Gundam Battle Tactics Bandai ACT 2005/9/22
16 PSP Guilty Gear XX c#reload Sega ACT 2005/9/29
17 PS2 Rhapsodia Konami SLG 2005/9/22
18 PS2 Hissatsu Ura-Kagyou Genki ACT 2005/9/22
19 PS2 Formula One 2005 SCE SPT 2005/9/22
20 PS2 Harukanaru Jikuu no Naka de 3 Koei AVG 2005/9/22


Sunday October 2nd

1 GBA Famimini SMB (rerelease) Nintendo Co. ACT 2005/9/13
2 NDS Tamagocchi Bandai ETC 2005/9/15
3 NDS Brain Training Nintendo Co. ETC 2005/5/19
4 NDS Soft Brain Training Nintendo Co. PUZ 2005/6/30
5 PS2 DW5 Moshouden Koei ACT 2005/9/15
6 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS Nintendo Co. ACT 2005/8/8
7 GBA Dr. Mario & Panel de Pon Nintendo Co. PUZ 2005/9/13
8 PS2 Urban Reign Namco ACT 2005/9/29
9 PSP World soccer WE 9 UE Konami SPT 2005/9/15
10 GBA Super Robot Wars J Banpresto SLG 2005/9/15
11 GBA Road to beetle ace Mushiking - Greatest champion - Sega RPG 2005/6/23
12 PS2 World soccer WE 9 Konami SPT 2005/8/4
13 GBA Mario Tennis Advance Nintendo Co. SPT 2005/9/13
14 NDS Gyakuten Saiban Capcom AVG 2005/9/15
15 PS2 Rhapsodia Konami SLG 2005/9/22
16 PSP Gundam Battle Tactics Bandai ACT 2005/9/22
17 GC Super Mario Stadium miracle baseball Nintendo Co. SPT 2005/7/21
18 PSP GGXX c#reload Sega ACT 2005/9/29
19 NDS Nintendogs Shiba & Friends Nintendo Co. SLG 2005/4/21
20 PS2 Formula One 2005 SCE SPT 2005/9/22

Monday October 3rd

1 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 2005
2 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
3 NDS Brain Training (Nintendo) May 19th 2005
4 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 2005
5 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moushouden (Koei) Sept 15th 2005
6 GBA Doctor Mario & Panel de Pon (Nintendo) Sept 13th 2005
7 PS2 Urban Reign (Namco) Sept 29th 2005
8 PSP World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 UE (Konami) Sept 15th 2005
9 GBA Super Robot Wars J (Banpresto) Sept 15th 2005
10 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 2005
11 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) Aug 8th 2005
12 GBA Mushi King (Sega) June 23rd 2005
13 PS2 Rhapsodia Suikoden Tactics (Konami) Sept 22nd 2005
14 GBA Mario Tennis Advance (Nintendo) Sept 13th 2005
15 PSP Guilty Gear XX #Reload (Sega) Sept 29th 2005
16 PS2 Hissatsu Urakagyou (Genki) Sept 22nd 2005
17 NDS Gyakuten Saiban (Capcom) Sept 15th 2005
18 PSP Gundam Battle Tactics (Bandai) Sept 22nd 2005
19 PS2 Winning Post 7 (Koei) Aug 25th 2005
20 PS2 SIMPLE 2000 series Vol. 81: Earth Defence Force 2 (D3 publisher) July 28th 2005


Recent daily charts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on October 04, 2005, 05:43:52 AM
Wowzers.
Kind of dissapointing that Jump Superstars is trailing so much, but, apart from that, Nintendo for the win. Who would've thought a rerelease of SMB, a tamagocchi game, and Brain Training would do so well? (I'd make a point about Nintendo possibly getting the wrong message from this, but then I'd sound too much like Ian).

Quote

Quoted For Truth I think it is.

Oh. Yeah, that would make sense. I thought he was saying 'Quit Fluckin Talking', as if to say 'yes, this board really is bitchy' in a humorous fashion.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 04, 2005, 12:41:24 PM
"Kind of dissapointing that Jump Superstars is trailing so much"

Well, it HAS been out for quite a while now... And it's still in the top 10, so I'm sure it's sold it's share of copies. I know that the first 2 shipments were all sold out, so it still did well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 05, 2005, 05:09:09 AM
I honestly don't understand what appeal Brain Training has to anyone...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 05, 2005, 05:32:28 AM
That's why you need it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 05, 2005, 05:34:16 AM
I love games that make you use your head, and apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 05, 2005, 05:35:07 AM
lol thanks KDR.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 05, 2005, 05:35:28 PM
Media Create 26 Sep - 2 Oct

1. GBA Famicom Mini Super Mario Brothers reprint - Nintendo - 45,000 (283,000)
2. NDS Tamagotchi no Petit Petit Omisecchi - Bandai - 31,000 (237,000)
3. PS2 Urban Reign - Namco - 28,000 (new)
4. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moshouden - Koei - 25,000 (282,000)
5. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 22,000 (613,000)
6. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 17,000 (534,000)
7. PSP Guilty Gear XX #RELOAD - Sega - 16,000 (new)
8. GBA Super Robot Taisen J - Banpresto - 16,000 (140,000)
9. GBA Dr.Mario + Panel de Pon - Nintendo - 14,000 (87,000)
10. PSP Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Edition - Konami - 12,000 (148,000)

More domination.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 06, 2005, 02:54:53 PM
A 20 year old reprint and a Tamagotchi game lead the charts...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2005, 02:57:28 PM
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Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
A 20 year old reprint and a Tamagotchi game lead the charts...

Ahhh, its a beautiful sight ain't it...

damnit, now where did I put my glasses.....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 06, 2005, 04:58:57 PM
DS 43,362
PSP 31,702
GBM 30,065
PS2 24,638
GBASP 10,751
GC 1,958
GBA 397
Xbox 112

DS kicking ass when it hasn't had any releases in like the past 2 weeks, PSP had about 5 new releases last week alone. There's another huge week for the DS coming up on October 20, with Super Princess Peach, Pokemon Touruze (whatever its called), Tendo Dokuta 2 and Where Do Babies Come From?.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 08, 2005, 04:14:56 AM
HAHAHAHAHA...the PSP barely managed to sell more than the micro  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 08, 2005, 04:23:25 AM
Also, something important to note is the huge increase in Xbox sales was due to Ninja Gaiden Black entering the top 50. Sales should cool down back into the double digits next week, after a pretty big week for Microsoft.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on October 08, 2005, 08:08:03 AM
The Xbox Japanese sales joke is pretty stale by now. Hope the 360 will inject some life into it. :¬þ
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 08, 2005, 01:17:47 PM
Yeah, the 360 could go to like...quadruple digits!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 08, 2005, 01:33:51 PM
Or new single-digit lows!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on October 08, 2005, 02:38:48 PM
Lowly Microsoft employee: Excuse me, mr. Allard sir, but we have the numbers from the japanese 360 launch....
J Allard: Awesometastic! How much ass are kicking down there?
lowly Microsoft employee: Well, so far, we've sold... nine.
J Allard: Nine.....thousand?
Lowly Microsoft employee: No. Just nine.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on October 08, 2005, 03:58:37 PM
I feel bad for all the vendors who'll have to sell the 360. Dusting is a bitch.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on October 08, 2005, 07:05:21 PM
'eh, if they're smart, they'll sell 'em on eBay to US bidders... these things are going to be nigh impossible to find for a month or so...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 11, 2005, 02:21:27 PM
I doubt MS is going to ship many 360's to Japan, though the funny thing would be if they shipped only a few hundred and had them all sell out in like five minutes and have a lot of people get angry about not getting one, they'd end up kicking themselves for not shipping more.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 11, 2005, 02:55:41 PM
Well, online import stores would simply buy those 360s from Japan and sell them to customers in the United States.

=D
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 11, 2005, 03:04:06 PM
Well this is lollable...I heard from somewhere that most stores in Japan are dropping all Xbox-related stuff the second 360 launches...looks like Japanese sales may actually be lower, seeing as it'll be harder to find the 360 than the original...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on October 11, 2005, 04:03:04 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
Well this is lollable...I heard from somewhere that most stores in Japan are dropping all Xbox-related stuff the second 360 launches...looks like Japanese sales may actually be lower, seeing as it'll be harder to find the 360 than the original...


Why? It would be odd to turn down the Xbox 360 before it even launches when stores have kept in stock the poor selling Xbox for so long, unless they signed an agreement with Microsoft for the first system, or another contract type of situation.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on October 11, 2005, 04:19:18 PM
well store in the us seen to be dropping nintendo stuff right now for no resone I'lled burn them down if gas wasn't $3
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2005, 06:30:45 PM
Media Create 3 - 9 October

1. PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! - Bandai - 326,000 (new)
2. GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers - Nintendo - 40,000 (322,000)
3. NDS Tamagotchi no Petit Petit Omisetchi - Bandai - 31,000 (267,000)
4. NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 17,000 (630,000)
5. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moshouden - Koei - 17,000 (299,000)
6. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 16,000 (549,000)
7. PS2 Urban Reign - Namco - 10,000 (38,000)
8. GBA Super Robot Taisen J - Banpresto - 9,000 (149,000)
9. PSP Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Evolution - Konami - 9,000 (157,000)
10. GBA Mushiking - Sega - 9,000 (569,000)

More domination! The consistant selling power of these NDS games and Super Mario Bros is crazy. Jump Superstars, Nintendogs, Phoenix Wright, Mario Tennis Advance & Doctor Mario/PanelDePon are all selling solidly in the top 20 too. Wario Ware Touched also pops back into the top 20 in the daily charts every few days.

DS hasn't had any significant new releases for a while, but next week Super Princess Peach, Where Do Babies Come From? (Project Rub 2), Pokemon Touruze and some other DS games that are slipping my mind come out, should be pretty big.

EDIT: Oh yeah and Gunstar Super Heroes debuted that week, but it tanked horribly. Probably only sold about 3,000 copies, if that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 12, 2005, 08:17:40 PM
Games with 'gun' in the title aren't big Japanese market candidates.

So...any bets on Mario Kart's sales in week one? And the DS's system sales that week?

Thinking about it this is going to be one sad year for the PSP in Japan. It's not like North America where it will at least have Grand Theft Auto. There's like no major hits on the horizon and the DS has probably the best selling handheld title of the year coming up. Plus Animal Crossing, Mario and Luigi, Children of Mana...etc.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2005, 08:30:52 PM
I think DS this holiday season has the best lineup any system has ever had in such a short time. It's going to come down to how many DS's Nintendo can ship to stores.

In November/December there's Animal Crossing, Pokemon Dungeon, Mario Kart, Mario & Luigi 2, Dragon Quest Slime Mori Something, Brain Training 2, Mushi King DS, Sonic Rush, Super Monkey Ball, Dragon Ball Z DS. All of those are pretty much guaranteed at least 100,000 sales, some will go MUCH higher. There also could be some surprises like the budget priced Simple DS series and that English Training, games like that, also i'm probably forgetting some. Not to mention the games that are already out which will get a nice boost like Nintendogs.

PSP has less games than that even being RELEASED, and of those the only ones I think might make a splash are Talkman (tiny splash), or maybe the uh... Metal Gear Acid budget re-release. Ok, seriously, PSP has nothing.

Let's not forget about GBA too. The new Rockman games are going to be big and lets not forget about a little title called Final Fantasy. (I think FF4 is the one being released this year)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 12, 2005, 10:15:44 PM
Liberty Stories is going to be big.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mT3 on October 12, 2005, 10:25:13 PM
Heh i dont think we're ever going to get those games down here in Australia.   Nintendo of Australia is soooo bodgy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2005, 10:31:20 PM
GTA: LCS will be big in the US and Europe, it wont make a dent in Japan, in fact it isn't being released there. I should have clarified that i was talking about Japan in my post.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on October 13, 2005, 09:05:24 AM
PSP is also getting remakes of the original Mega Man and Mega Man X games.  I'm not sure if they're going to be out before the end of the year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2005, 11:40:49 AM
Even worse, the Megaman remake will include a level editor. I hope they'll give us an editor for some DS games, too. After all, using an editor with gamepad controls SUCKS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 13, 2005, 11:50:15 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
GTA: LCS will be big in the US and Europe, it wont make a dent in Japan, in fact it isn't being released there. I should have clarified that i was talking about Japan in my post.


PSP might as well give up on Japan and stick to NA and europe.

I wonder what will happen to the PSP's sales in japan once the ipod video shows up there, I mean most japanese use it for UMD's but will that continue?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 13, 2005, 08:42:36 PM
DS     39,137
PSP    31,089
PS2    25,328
GBM    24,568
GBASP    9,837
GC    1,486
GBA    323
Xbox    106

PSP has done better since the White one came out. But expect a surge to 50,000 or so next week with Princess Peach, Where Do Babies and Pokemon Torouze coming out. PSP should drop to 26-29,000.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 14, 2005, 05:54:33 PM
Top five handheld games in NA:


1. Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (DS) - 85,117
2. Madden NFL 2006 (PSP) - 82,527
3. Nintendogs: Labrador and Friends (DS) - 81,810
4. Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends (DS) - 73,711
5. Pokemon Emerald (GBA) - 68,490

Also, the DS is now back in the lead for total game sales. According to Nintendo Insider the PSP had taken the lead last month but now it's back to 4,663,371 for the DS to the PSP's 4,656,258. This month and next will be interesting. The last two weeks have seen a ton of high-profile DS releases, plus we should expect continued strong sales for Nintendogs. The PSP gets Liberty Stories on the 24th, so it will have a week worth of sales for that. I imagine the DS will hold a slim lead as it has more than a single title to go on. Then it should regain a large margin of victory when November hits with Mario Kart. Though PSP system numbers  for September are currently unkown it seems likely the DS held on to its lead, seeing as it saw a huge spike itself and the PSP had no noteworthy releases.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2005, 07:16:53 PM
September NPD for NDS  -  $$$$ / UNITS

NDS NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS - 2,584,709 / 85,117
NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIENDS - 2,469,438 / 81,810
NDS NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS - 2,226,936 / 73,711
NDS ADVANCE WARS : DUAL STRIKE - 1,939,428 / 55,730
NDS YU-GI-OH! NIGHTMARE - 1,201,830 / 34,741
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 727,850 / 24,007
NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE - 626,385 / 17,964
NDS WARIOWARE: TOUCHED! - 400,377 / 11,484
NDS LUNAR DRAGON SONG - 377,701 / 9,669
NDS ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN - 344,340 / 9,600
NDS YOSHI TOUCH & GO - 288,117 / 9,329
NDS METEOS - 281,242 / 9,112
NDS LOST IN BLUE - 237,294 / 7,955
NDS MADAGASCAR - 225,894 / 7,597
NDS POKEMON DASH - 208,189 / 6,693
NDS MADDEN NFL 06 - 262,710 / 6,616
NDS PAC N ROLL - 178,300 / 5,961
NDS GOLDENEYE: ROGUE AGENT - 177,030 / 5,936
NDS SW EPISODE III: SITH - 229,610 / 5,784
NDS NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 - 212,464 / 5,415
NDS TRACE MEMORY - 149,876 / 4,708
NDS NANOSTRAY - 128,056 / 4,281
NDS BOMBERMAN - 127,325 / 4,273
NDS ROBOTS - 83,622 / 4,239
NDS RAYMAN DS - 113,137 / 4,189
NDS RETRO ATARI - 60,705 / 4,035
NDS T. CLANCYS CHAOS THEORY - 157,639 / 3,958
NDS TAK 3: GREAT JUJU CHALLENGE - 101,210 / 3,383
NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 - 81,790 / 3,024
NDS THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY - 77,541 / 2,738
NDS WORLD CHAMP POKER DS - 60,779 / 2,302
NDS ASPHALT: URBAN GT - 66,565 / 2,249
NDS ZOO KEEPER - 34,822 / 2,049
NDS PING PALS - 24,428 / 1,879
NDS POLARIUM - 42,899 / 1,831
NDS TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 - 46,615 / 1,735
NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX - 28,260 / 1,706
NDS RIDGE RACER DS - 40,019 / 1,475
NDS PAC PIX - 42,363 / 1,420
NDS PUYO POP FEVER - 36,685 / 1,239
NDS SPRUNG - 19,643 / 1,084
NDS MADDEN NFL 2005 - 23,797 / 915
NDS MR. DRILLER: DRILL - 13,319 / 765
NDS FROGGER: HELMET CHAOS - 19,785 / 655
NDS WHAC-A-MOLE - 18,040 / 609
NDS SPACE INVADERS REVOLUTION - 10,854 / 550

edited for clarity, hope that helps you read it easier
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 14, 2005, 07:38:05 PM
First column of numbers is money?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 14, 2005, 07:39:30 PM
Does NPD = US...that can't be right if it is...that would mean over 7 million Nintendogs sold, even though if that's worldwide sales, 7 million is still an incredible number.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 14, 2005, 07:43:51 PM
I was just about to post that! (yes, first number on that one is money, second is units sold)

I'll post this instead, TOTAL sales of every NDS game in the US.

Nintendo DS totals - September 2005

Super Mario 64 DS         | 1,144,137
Nintendogs (all versions)   |  450,365
WarioWare: Touched!       |   332,334
Spider-Man: The Movie 2   |   329,134
Asphalt: Urban GT         |   219,919
Yoshi Touch & Go          |   201,112
Madden NFL 2005           |   183,819
The Urbz: Sims in City    |   182,978
Kirby: Canvas Curse       |   173,299
Nintendogs: Dachshund     |   155,690
Nintendogs: Labrador      |   149,095
Nintendogs: Chihuahua     |   145,580
Pokemon Dash              |   125,344
SW Episode III: Sith      |   111,939
Advance Wars: Dual Strike |   100,023
Ridge Racer DS            |    98,215
Robots                    |    81,564
Rayman DS                 |    78,646
Feel the Magic: XY/XX     |    70,434
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent    |    63,897
Tiger Woods PGA 2005      |    63,625
Meteos                    |    61,478
Need Speed: Underground 2 |    57,643
Ping Pals                 |    54,355
Madagascar                |    54,238
Mr. Driller: DS           |    51,768
Zoo Keeper                |    42,677
Bomberman                 |    37,990
Yu-Gi-Oh Nightmare        |    34,741*
Retro Atari               |    33,223
Sprung                    |    28,980
T. Clancys Chaos Theory   |    27,182
Pac Pix                   |    26,727
World Champ Poker DS      |    26,112
Polarium                  |    25,610
Nanostray                 |    16,006
Madden NFL 06             |    14,817
Puyo Pop Fever            |    14,476
Lunar Dragon Song         |     9,669*
Ultimate Spiderman        |     9,600*
Lost in Blue              |     7,955*
Pac n Roll                |     7,435
Trace Memory              |     4,708*
Tak 3                     |     3,383*
Frogger: Helmet Chaos     |       655*
Whack A Mole              |       609*
Space Invaders Revolution |       550*
                         |
Overall                      | 4,663,371

* New September Releases  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 14, 2005, 07:50:48 PM
Nice to see Advance Wars has done well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 14, 2005, 08:28:10 PM
From Gamecube Sales Thread (September sales) - DS = 164,000

I'm actually quite surprised at the relatively low DS sales numbers. 164,000, even with Nintendogs (late August), Another Code (granted, a little late), Advance Wars, and all the other decent titles that have come out. Those are all quality titles, and they should have helped move a lot more DSes off shelves.  Nintendogs must have sold some DSes in August and some in September, but in August the sales were up only 26% from the previous month...

I'll wait for the Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan sales - they should be exceptionally strong with all the mouthwatering titles coming up. Castlevania got released on Oct. 4 as well, so it should count towards October and make that month even stronger for the DS

EDIT: for Another Code sales so far - 5,000 copies in 5 days - hopefully it keeps selling in Oct. I saw quite a few commercials for it online too...  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 14, 2005, 09:07:07 PM
Judging from reviews there's little reason to rush out and buy Another Code.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 14, 2005, 09:15:55 PM
Judging from reviews being irrelivant Another Code is awesome.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 14, 2005, 10:13:58 PM
It looks extremely boring.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RABicle on October 14, 2005, 10:19:28 PM
FUCKIN HIT YOU IN THE GOB! YOU'RE BORING!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 14, 2005, 10:19:39 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
It looks extremely boring.

You're extremely boring...(I have the game, and you don't, so my opinion is thus worth a lot more)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 14, 2005, 10:26:48 PM
I found it very fun, but hey, if you're not interested in it you'd save some money just ignoring it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 15, 2005, 03:59:45 AM
If you like ADV. games you'll love Another code
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 15, 2005, 04:14:51 AM
Japanese sales for September...

Software:

1 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moushouden Koei 262,887 262,887
2 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers Nintendo 221,255 800,288
3 DS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Bandai 159,539 159,539
4 GBA Super Robot Taisen J Banpresto 139,802 139,802
5 DS Nou o Kitaeru Otona no DS Training Nintendo 138,988 595,944
6 PSP World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Evolution Konami 120,670 120,670
7 DS Yawaraka Atamajuku Nintendo 112,672 515,290
8 PS2 Tales of Legendia Namco 85,917 327,920
9 DS Jump Superstars Nintendo 72,748 366,098
10 DS Gyakuten Saiban: Yomigaeru Gyakuten Capcom 65,458 65,458
11 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Konami 61,049 875,846
12 GBA Mario Tennis Advance Nintendo 58,273 58,273
13 PS2 Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED DESTINY?GENERATION of C.E.? Bandai 48,560 172,503
14 GBA Mushiking Sega 48,088 551,361
15 DS nintendogs Shiba & Friends/Dach & Friends/Chihuahua & Friends Nintendo 47,114 686,379
16 PSP BLEACH~Heat the Soul 2~ SCEJ 46,793 46,793
17 GBA Dr. Mario & Panel de Pon Nintendo 43,547 43,547
18 PS2 Fighting for ONE PIECE Bandai 41,206 41,206
19 PS2 NARUTO Uzumaki Ninden Bandai 38,003 178,318
20 PS2 Harukanaru no Jikuu no Naka de 3 Koei 36,663 36,663
21 PS2 Rhapsodia Konami 36,403 36,403
22 PSP Gundam Battle Tactics Bandai 35,447 35,447
23 PS2 Winning Post 7 Koei 29,243 59,045
24 PS2 SIMPLE 2000 Series Vol.81 D3 Publisher 24,832 136,750
25 GC Pokemon XD: Yami no Senpuu Dark Lugia Pokemon 24,543 191,294
26 PS2 Fire pro Returns Spike 22,324 22,324
27 PS2 Hissatsu Ura-Kagyou Genki 22,035 22,035
28 GC Super Mario Stadium: Miracle Baseball Nintendo 21,427 176,929
29 PS2 Kingdom Hearts Final Mix?Ultimate Hits? Square Enix 19,034 19,034
30 DS Power Pro Pocket Koushien Konami 17,663 74,501

31 PS2 Grandia III Square Enix 16,769 215,224
32 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami 15,666 421,572
33 PSP GHost in the Shell STAND ALONE COMPLEX SCEJ 14,403 14,403
34 PS2 The 3rd Super Robot Taisen Alpha Banpresto 14,194 590,480
35 PS2 Sarugtchu 3 SCEJ 13,940 203,486
36 PS2 Final Fantasy X (Ultimate Hits) Sqaure Enix 13,767 13,767
37 PS2 Formula One 2005 SCEJ 13,336 13,336
38 DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo 12,673 794,934
39 DS NARUTO RPG 2 Tomy 12,445 95,718
40 PS2 Gokujou Seitokai Konami 11,907 11,907
41 PSP Prtincess Crown Atlus 11,816 11,816
42 PS2 Princess Maker 4 Genex 11,682 11,682
43 DS Super Mario 64DS Nintendo 11,517 763,359
44 PS2 Gladiator: Road to Freedom Rermix Artein 10,426 10,426
45 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin Tobikiri Anime Special Namco 10,418 39,806
46 GBA Wagamama Star Fairy Mirumo de Pon Doki Doki Memorial Panic Konami 10,290 10,290
47 PS2 MotoGP4 Namco 10,192 10,192
48 PSP Taiko no Tatsujin Portable Namco 10,005 44,154
49 GBA Shin Boktai Konami 9,758 76,934
50 PS2 Pachislot Onihama Bakusou Gurentai: Gekitou-Hen Success 9,746 111,331
51 PS2 Grand Theft Auto Vice City (CapKore) Capcom 9,655 57,829
52 PS2 Final Fantasy X/X-12 (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 9,530 9,530
53 GBA Pokemon Emerald Pokemon 9,360 1,600,853
54 PSP Rockman DASH 2 Capcom 9,245 9,245
55 DS Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! Nintendo 9,173 36,486
56 PS2 Sengoku BASARA Capcom 9,091 161,094
57 PSP Twelve Sengoku Fengshenden Konami 9,055 18,652
58 PSP Breath of Fire III Capcom 9,016 16,823
59 PS2 Medal of Honor European Assault EA 8,945 48,255
60 PSP Kidou Senshi Gundam Giren's Ambition Bandai 8,896 46,696
61 GBA Pokemon Fire Red + Leaf Green Pokemon 8,770 2,540,452
62 DS Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters NIGHTMARE TROUBADOUR Konami 8,755 79,216
63 PS2 Tokyo Bus Annai 2 Success 8,755 8,755
64 DS RockMan EXE 5 DS Twin Leaders Capcom 8,672 52,408
65 PS2 Kidou Senshi Gundam Ichinen Snesou Bandai 8,555 423,597
66 DS Touch! Kirby Nintendo 8,414 244,923
67 PS2 Kingdom Hearts (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 8,323 8,323
68 PS2 Sakura Taisen V Sega 8,179 135,042
69 PSP Tenchu Shinobi Taizen From Software 8,158 62,419
70 PS2 Taito Memories Down Under Taito 7,690 16,215


71 PS2 Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol.18 Dragon Force Sega 7,680 27,336
72 PS2 Summon Night Ecstacy Banpresto 7,658 139,235
73 PSP Nobunaga no Yabou: Tenshouki Koei 7,645 7,645
74 PS2 Brother in Arms Road to Hill 30 Ubi Soft 7,523 7,523
75 PS2 Minna no GOLF4?PlayStation 2 the Best? SCEJ 7,499 216,736
76 PS2 Pro Baseball Team o Ysukurou! 3 Sega 7,494 101,598
77 DS Touch de Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen: Rio de Carnival Tecmo 7,304 7,304
78 PS2 Relakuma: Ojama Shitemasu 2 Shuukan Interchannel 7,249 7,249
79 DS DS Rabuhiki Jiten Nintendo 7,190 39,820
80 PS2 Heavy Metal Thunder Sqaure Enix 7,085 7,085
81 DS Akumajou Dracula: Sougetsu no Juujika Konami 6,969 22,325
82 PS2 BLEACH SCEJ 6,962 76,206
83 PS2 KAIDO Kaido: Touge no Densetsu Genki 6,734 77,778
84 PS2 Ace Combat 5 The Unsung War (PlayStation 2 the Best) Namco 6,731 26,499
85 GBA Super Mario Advance 4 Nintendo 6,721 665,861
86 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami 6,498 73,654
87 PS2 Pachinko Ultra Seven Huckberry 6,335 35,246
88 PS2 STUNTMAN Atari 6,302 6,302
89 DS Lunar Genesis Marvelous Interactive 6,301 14,006
90 GBA Screwbreaker Nintendo 6,161 6,161
91 PSP Minna no GOLF Portable SCE 6,153 389,180
92 GBA Kuniokun Collection 1 Atlus 6,065 10,868
93 PS2 Sarugetchu 2 (PlayStation 2 the Best) SCE 6,030 48,609
94 PS2 Jissen Pachislot! Onimusha 3 Sega 6,027 105,765
95 GBA BLEACH Advance Sega 6,006 42,338
96 PS2 Grand Theft Auto III (CaKore) Capcom 6,001 64,396
97 PS2 Daito Giken Pachislot Simulator Daito Giken 5,974 496,237
98 PS2 Momotarou Dentetsu 12 (PlayStation 2 The Best) Hudson 5,884 42,387
99 PS2 AIR (Best Version) Interchannel 5,630 5,630
100 PSP Formula One 2005 Portable SCEJ 5,623 5,623

Hardware:

PS2: 106,845
GC: 9,400
Xbox: 576
GBA: 1,921
GBASP: 48,511
GBM: 200,165
PSP: 145,273
DS: 245,102
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 15, 2005, 04:29:03 AM
So the DS continues to dominate
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 15, 2005, 01:07:34 PM
US LTD September 2005

Nintendo DS
Super Mario 64 DS - 1,144,137
Wario Ware Touched! - 332,334
Yoshi Touch And Go - 190,327
Kirby Canvas Curse - 173,029
Pokemon Dash - 125,344
nintendogs: Miniature Dachshund & Friends - 155,690
nintendogs: Labrador Retriever & Friends - 149,095
nintendogs: Chihuahua & Friends - 145,580
Advance Wars: Dual Strike - 100,023
Meteos - 61,478
Polarium - 25,610
Trace Memory: 4,708

All 3 nintendogs break 100K.
All nintendogs at 450K.
Advance Wars breaks 100K.
Trace Memory enters at less than 5K.


Gameboy Advance
Super Mario Advance 2 - 2,459,471
Pokemon Ruby Version - 2,401,015
Pokemon Sapphire Version - 2,157,709
Super Mario Advance - 2,076,545
Mario Kart: Super Circuit - 2,084,589
Super Mario Bros 3: Super Mario Advance 4 - 1,882,876
Pokemon FireRed Version - 1,561,349
The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To Past - 1,385,481
Pokemon Emerald Version - 1,437,870
Pokemon LeafGreen Version - 1,362,608
Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 - 1,151,562
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 992,177
Kirby: Nightmare In Dreamland - 970,793
Donkey Kong Country - 962,170
Metroid Fusion - 938,095
Golden Sun - 743,327
Wario Land 4 - 719,060
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - 646,685
Donkey Kong Country 2 - 595,617
The Legend Of Zelda: The Minish Cap - 593,418
Kirby And The Amazing Mirror - 567,397
Classic Nes Series: Super Mario Bros. - 548,027
Mario Vs. Donkey Kong - 533,299
Pokemon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire - 531,561
Golden Sun 2: The Lost Age - 472,390
Metroid Zero Mission - 466,620
Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn Of Souls - 430,499
Advance Wars - 401,155 (Still Missing Apr 2005)
Fire Emblem - 391,274
Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising - 366,683
Mario Pinball Land - 367,455
Classic Nes Series: The Legend Of Zelda - 360,732
Game & Watch Gallery 4 - 347,448
Classic Nes Series: Donkey Kong - 314,075
F-Zero Maximum Velocity - 274,491
Classic Nes Series: Zelda II: Adventure Of Link - 246,313
Warioware Inc Mega Micro Game$ - 245,992
Sword Of Mana - 241,960
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 236,834
Classic Nes Series: Dr. Mario - 236,343
Mario Party Advance - 230,738
Mario Golf Advance Tour - 228,554
Hamtaro: Ham Ham Heartbreak - 204,550
Classic Nes Series: Pac-Man - 197,472
Pokemon: Johto Photo Finish (Vol. 1) - 176,458
Classic Nes Series: Metroid - 148,691
Pokemon: For Ho-Oh The Bells Toll (Vol 2) - 138,531
Disney's Magical Quest - 124,863
Classic Nes Series: Castlevania - 117,521
Wario Ware Twisted! - 122,833
Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Games - 97,089
Pokemon: I Choose You! - 72,823
Classic Nes Series: Excitebike - 72,418
Classic Nes Series: Ice Climber - 69,186
Classic Nes Series: Bomberman - 62,303
Classic Nes Series: Xevious - 49,092
Pokemon: Beach Blank-Out Blastoise - 57,548
Yoshi Topsy-Turvy - 62,014
F-Zero: GP Legend - 35,296
Donkey Kong: King of Swing: 7,663  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 15, 2005, 02:46:35 PM
Wow, comparing Kirby DS to GBA and Advance Wars DS to GBA it becomes clear Advance Wars has done very well!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RABicle on October 16, 2005, 01:01:04 AM
"Pokemon: Beach Blank-Out Blastoise - 57,548"
Is that a towel?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on October 16, 2005, 07:43:32 AM
It's a GBA Video.

Okok... now, sorry, this is off topic, but is there anywhere that lists US sales on UMD movies?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 16, 2005, 10:09:01 AM
No one even cares to count those.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 20, 2005, 11:11:21 AM
Japanese software sales for October 10 - October 16:

#. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

1. PS2 - Dragonball Z Sparking! (Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi) - Bandai - 89,000 (415,000) - 2nd week
2. PS2 - Code Age Commanders - Square Enix - 37,000 (NEW)
3. GBA - Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters GX: Mezase Duel King! - Konami - 35,000 (NEW)
4. GBA - Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (re-release) - Nintendo - 32,000 (354,000) - 5th week
5. NDS - Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi - Bandai - 29,000 (296,000) - 5th week
6. NDS - Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Brain Training for Adults) - Nintendo - 24,000 (655,000) - 22nd week
7. NDS - Yawaraka Atama Juku (Brain Training for Kids) - Nintendo - 20,000 (570,000) - 15th week
8. GBA - Tsuukin Hitofude (Polarium) - Nintendo - 14,000 (NEW)
9. PS2 - Shin Sanghoku Musou 4 Moshouden (Dynasty Warriors 5: Xtreme Legends) - Koei - 12,000 (311,000) - 5th week
10. NDS - Jump Superstars (Nintendo) - 9,000 (394.000) - 10th week

Media Create
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on October 20, 2005, 11:20:37 AM
Forgive me, but I just noticed this.
Quote

Classic Nes Series: Super Mario Bros. - 548,027
Classic Nes Series: The Legend Of Zelda - 360,732
Classic Nes Series: Zelda II: Adventure Of Link - 246,313
Classic Nes Series: Dr. Mario - 236,343
Classic Nes Series: Pac-Man - 197,472
Classic Nes Series: Metroid - 148,691
Classic Nes Series: Castlevania - 117,521
Classic Nes Series: Excitebike - 72,418
Classic Nes Series: Ice Climber - 69,186
Classic Nes Series: Bomberman - 62,303
Classic Nes Series: Xevious - 49,092
First, I can't believe so many people bought SMB.  Here I was thinking that the Japanese are absolutely crazy for buying the re-re GBA release and now I find out that we're just as crazy.

Second, I can't believe Pac-Man sold so well.  I don't even remember this game being released on NES.  Although I suppose it's pretty stupid to think it wasn't.  But still, who'd buy that when you can get one of the fifteen Namco collections that include Pac-Man plus another 3 or 4 games for the same price?

Third, are there really only 11 Classic NES Series games released?  That seems like an odd number.  Are we missing one?

Fourth, I can't believe so many people actually bought this game.  Don't they know they can spend an extra $10 and get Zero Mission, complete with unlockable NES Metroid?  Just sad.

And last, why hasn't there been a Classic NES Tetris released?  You'd think this would be perfect.  Especially considering no one's made a good Tetris game since Tetris Attack (or maybe Tetris DX; I can't remember which one came out more recently).  Is there a problem with licensing?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on October 20, 2005, 11:23:54 AM
"And last, why hasn't there been a Classic NES Tetris released? You'd think this would be perfect. Especially considering no one's made a good Tetris game since Tetris Attack (or maybe Tetris DX; I can't remember which one came out more recently). Is there a problem with licensing?"

Yeah it's a licencing issue.  Nintendo used to have the rights to Tetris but now THQ does.  Why else do you think the GBA Tetris game is horrible?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 20, 2005, 04:16:17 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Japanese software sales for October 10 - October 16:

#. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

1. PS2 - Dragonball Z Sparking! (Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi) - Bandai - 89,000 (415,000) - 2nd week
2. PS2 - Code Age Commanders - Square Enix - 37,000 (NEW)
3. GBA - Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters GX: Mezase Duel King! - Konami - 35,000 (NEW)
4. GBA - Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (re-release) - Nintendo - 32,000 (354,000) - 5th week
5. NDS - Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi - Bandai - 29,000 (296,000) - 5th week
6. NDS - Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Brain Training for Adults) - Nintendo - 24,000 (655,000) - 22nd week
7. NDS - Yawaraka Atama Juku (Brain Training for Kids) - Nintendo - 20,000 (570,000) - 15th week
8. GBA - Tsuukin Hitofude (Polarium) - Nintendo - 14,000 (NEW)
9. PS2 - Shin Sanghoku Musou 4 Moshouden (Dynasty Warriors 5: Xtreme Legends) - Koei - 12,000 (311,000) - 5th week
10. NDS - Jump Superstars (Nintendo) - 9,000 (394.000) - 10th week

Media Create

Hardware sales :

DS - 44,262
PSP - 29,162
PS2 - 23,659
GBM - 20,026
GBASP - 9,707
GC - 1,666
GBA - 431
Xbox - 132
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2005, 04:56:42 PM
The GBA in all its forms outsells the PSP.

The DS outsells GBA.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 20, 2005, 04:58:12 PM
Transitive property, bitches.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 20, 2005, 06:12:57 PM
I thought Princess Peach came out this week?

Anyway, I was right on with my PSP estimate (26,000-29,000) but a little off on my DS estimate (50,000). When do/does Peach come out? This current week?

I expect a hold for the DS around 40,000. If those games haven't come out yet then it could climb a little to around 48,000. PSP should continue it's drop to around 24-26,000.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 20, 2005, 06:57:48 PM
Super Princess Peach came out yesterday October 20, so it will be in the next weekly figures.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 21, 2005, 04:35:29 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Transitive property, bitches.


You are weird, sometimes, KN.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2005, 09:37:16 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
September NPD data is here!

PS2 = 268,000
Xbox = 124,000
GCN = 108,000
GBA = 185,000
DS = 168,000
PSP = 146,000



#'s updated

DS beat the PSP in trhe US last month
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on October 22, 2005, 12:10:58 PM
GBA beated the psp last month ^_^
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2005, 01:01:17 PM
GBA # also includes the GBM
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 23, 2005, 01:40:08 PM
As well as it should, since GBA GBM and GBASP are all essentially the same system.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 23, 2005, 03:19:43 PM
I wonder how much the GBPlayer sold.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 23, 2005, 05:58:43 PM
Sadly, only 3 units worldwide. Yes, 3 units.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 23, 2005, 07:30:53 PM
I own one of those 3 units then...

I love the GB player, it's all I use for GB games at home.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 23, 2005, 07:45:22 PM
I own one too, who's the last person?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 23, 2005, 08:31:17 PM
Me! Pick me!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Grant10k on October 23, 2005, 08:33:39 PM
My old room mate had one, before she went psycho, blamed me for all her problems and left to go to the other side of the country. She took the GBP with her.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 23, 2005, 09:55:39 PM
So, is your old roommate Artimus or IceCold?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 24, 2005, 04:31:18 AM
I have one too, had it since they came out.  But I don't play it all that much, sadly.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 24, 2005, 04:32:17 AM
There you have it folks, the 3 owners. The strange part is, only 2 Gamecube systems have been sold worlwide, so one of these people with the GBP got the shaft.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2005, 05:59:22 AM
I must have stolen one of the other guys' GBP by mistake!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on October 24, 2005, 09:17:35 AM
The question was how many units sold last month and the answer was 3.  Since none of you bought your GB Player last month you all fail.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 24, 2005, 10:13:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Grant10k
My old room mate had one, before she went psycho, blamed me for all her problems and left to go to the other side of the country. She took the GBP with her.
You have some nerve posting here!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 24, 2005, 12:57:54 PM
What's its lifetime sales?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 25, 2005, 06:00:50 AM
If they'd drop the damn price on the GBP I'd buy one.  $70 is just too much.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 25, 2005, 07:16:10 AM
Isn't it $50? That's the price I've always seen.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 25, 2005, 08:02:50 AM
That's probably canadian dollars.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 25, 2005, 10:46:37 AM
Yes. They're $70 Canadian. Though I don't remember paying that much...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 25, 2005, 08:27:27 PM
Well I got mine for $49.99.. at Superstore. That's the only time I've seen it under $70 in any store though. Well, I haven't really looked much since I got it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 26, 2005, 05:42:54 AM
Yeah, I'm always forgetting to add CDN to the end of my prices...I'd consider $50 CDN, but that's still a little steep (and obviously it's too much in U.S. dollars, as far as I'm concerned).  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 27, 2005, 06:12:01 AM
What sucks about the GBP is that before it came out it was going to be like 29 or 39 dollars them all of a sudden Ninteno jacked the price up to 50 dollars.  And the GBM is really too expensive.  I am going to get one, but not till next year after I have done away with Christmas shopping and Christmas itself.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 27, 2005, 06:47:57 PM
M-Create numbers for the 17 to 23!

# 1: Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion - PS2 - D3 Publisher - 72,000
# 2: Pokemon Touroze - NDS - Nintendo - 66,000
# 3: Kawasima Brain Trainer - PSP - Sega - 43,000
# 4: Super Princess Peach - NDS - Nintendo - 38,000
# 5: Dragon Ball Z : Budokai Tenkaichi - PS2 - Bandai - 34,000
# 6: Kadokawa Shoten - PS2 - Shuffle - 30,000
# 7: Brain Training DS - NDS - Nintendo - 24,000
# 8: Burnout Revenge - PS2 - Electronic Arts - 22,000
# 9: Super Mario Bros Famicom Mini - GBA - Nintendo - 21,000
# 10: Tamagotchi DS - NDS - Bandai - 20,000

DS     44,283
PSP    28,067
PS2    21,699
GBM    15,540
GBASP    7,389
GC    1,519
GBA    396
Xbox    129

My predictions were right on for the DS this week (smack in the middle) but the PSP help up better than I predicted. Next week probably around 26,000 for the PSP and 36,000 for the DS.

And SEGA gets the ****-on-a-stick award of the week for their lame copy of Nintendo's Brain Training games. Hopefully it drops from here on out.
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 27, 2005, 10:42:00 PM
Wow, Super Princess Peach and Pokemon caused DS sales to SKYROCKET from 44,262 to 44,283.

I think this is a case of either these games not tempting new users or people bought a DS over the past few weeks upon hearing about these games. I look forward to seeing the hardware sales on the week of the first Pokemon DS information and/or screenshots to give me more insight. It could also be a case that DS sales would have been lower this week but the new releases kept it steady.

Where Do Babies Come From? flopped hard, which was expected.

Also, good lord, Brain Training DS went UP again.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 28, 2005, 03:09:14 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
What sucks about the GBP is that before it came out it was going to be like 29 or 39 dollars them all of a sudden Ninteno jacked the price up to 50 dollars.  And the GBM is really too expensive.  I am going to get one, but not till next year after I have done away with Christmas shopping and Christmas itself.


I hope the GBM bombs at that stupid price point. =(

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 28, 2005, 07:00:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Wow, Super Princess Peach and Pokemon caused DS sales to SKYROCKET from 44,262 to 44,283.

I think this is a case of either these games not tempting new users or people bought a DS over the past few weeks upon hearing about these games. I look forward to seeing the hardware sales on the week of the first Pokemon DS information and/or screenshots to give me more insight. It could also be a case that DS sales would have been lower this week but the new releases kept it steady.

Where Do Babies Come From? flopped hard, which was expected.

Also, good lord, Brain Training DS went UP again.


The fact that the system stayed the same showed an interest in the games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 28, 2005, 05:31:41 PM
On the topic of Peach, anyone else really like the graphics? That's the style I want to see in the next Mario Bros. Not nearly as 'girly' or cutesy, but those kind of bright colours and smooth sprites.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darkheart on October 28, 2005, 08:01:09 PM
Or how about, the fact that Peach eats the enemies . . . . .   When I first heard that I was like "WTH?"  Then I saw a video where she picks up the enemy then underneath her unbrella eats the enemies . . . . . . Not even Mario has gone that weird.  Yoshi eats bad guys but Yoshi is a freakin DINOSAUR. . . .  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 29, 2005, 04:38:04 AM
Actually if you look closely its the umbrella not peach that eats the enemy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: TMW on October 29, 2005, 12:16:58 PM
Aw...its much more fun if she eats the enemies though. XD
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 02, 2005, 09:58:36 AM
Media Create - October 24th - 30th

01 PS2 Shadow of the Colosuss 140,295 [140,295]
02 NDS Pokémon Torouze 30,426?[96,675]
03 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Batallion Wars) 25,568 [25,568]

04 PS2 Ultraman: Fighting Evolution Rebirth?25,502 [25,502]
05 PS2 Eureka Seven TR1?NEW WAVE?24,778 [24,778]
06 NDS Tamagotchi 23,289 [340151]
07 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion 22,081 [93,840]
08 NDS Adult Brain Training 21,730 [700,625]
09 NDS Gentle Brain Exercise 21,046 [610,725]

10 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking!?20,534 [469,266]

hardware comes later
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 02, 2005, 10:12:38 AM
Looks like another strong week!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 02, 2005, 10:39:04 AM
PSP Brain training has already dropped out of the top ten.  I know it shouldn't, but that makes me smile.

Really good numbers for Shadow of the Colosuss.  Respectable numbers for Batallion Wars.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 02, 2005, 10:40:09 AM
Woah, Batallion wars is number 3!  This is unexpected!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 03, 2005, 08:48:20 PM
Hardware

DS 46,826
PSP 27,837
PS2 21,976
GBM 11,656
GBASP 6,515
GC 2,931
GBA 321
Xbox 114

GC sales doubled! DS dominating as usual.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on November 03, 2005, 08:54:18 PM
I never had a problem with the GBP price.  I got it for forty or fifty dollars, but at the time I had no Gameboy.  I just had that to play Gameboy games.
Still don't have a GBA, I just got a DS.  Still use my GBP, though, I prefer the controls on it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 04, 2005, 03:49:42 AM
Japan Daily Sales Nov 3rd 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
3 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
4 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
5 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
6 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
7 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
8 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
9 PS2 Marheaven: Arm Fight Dream (Konami) Nov 3rd 05
10 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
11 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
12 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
13 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
14 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
15 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai -World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05
16 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
17 NDS Viewtiful Joe Scratch! (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
18 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
19 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05
20 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05

Viewtiful Joe DS is a MASSIVE flop! I don't see it selling more than 10,000 this week, so unless it has legs, it's another Capbomb.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 04, 2005, 05:01:46 AM
"Daredemo Asobi Taisen"?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on November 04, 2005, 06:17:35 AM
my crippled japanese tells me is a party game of some sort.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 04, 2005, 06:32:58 AM
This!

A collection of 42 popular board and table games, with 8 player multiplayer.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2005, 10:05:47 AM
Found this elsewhere, thought I would post it.

its a visual representation of the DS vs PSP on a graph

DS vs PSP

enjoy
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 05, 2005, 11:02:32 AM
Hey, nice graph!

1.5mil lead and counting.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 07, 2005, 09:03:32 AM
Nice graph.  Thanks for posting it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 07, 2005, 09:18:23 AM
I'm updating this graph from the future, ok?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 07, 2005, 09:43:58 AM
Half a million units in a single week is a bit much, don't you think?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 07, 2005, 10:10:01 AM
No, no it is not!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 07, 2005, 02:11:31 PM
Not at all!

Here's something rare, UK sales! For the past 3 weeks

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NDS: 30,000
GBA SP: 15,500
PSP: 12,900

DS: 23,035
GBA SP: 10,034
PSP: 8,000

NDS: 24,492
PSP: 18,723
GBA SP: 8,799

Quite surprising considering UK is Nintendos worst territory that isn't Australia. (though I think it's actually worse than Australia at the moment, considering Nintendogs is #1 here and #38 there)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 07, 2005, 02:14:27 PM
Castlevania?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 07, 2005, 02:39:02 PM
Hmm I hear it's a case of PSP shortages actually. Castlevania flopped horribly everywhere because the publisher is incredibly stupid and made it difficult to find, I guess they don't want peoples money OR to make gamers happy. Nintendogs WAS high up in the charts which is the cause of the initial DS boost, but now it's #38, while in Australia it's still #1 after being out for a while.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 07, 2005, 02:47:30 PM
In UK do they count the bundles sold as Nintendogs sales, because it could be that most of the DS sold are Nintendogs bundles.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 07, 2005, 02:55:43 PM
Oh yeah, quite possibly! I remember in the US when there was a Super Mario Sunshine bundle the software sales from the bundle were never counted, could be the same here.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 08, 2005, 07:01:44 PM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Transitive property of inequalities, bitches.
Fixed.

Sorry
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 09, 2005, 08:10:13 AM
Dude, that was posted almost three weeks ago and 40 posts back.  WTF?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 09, 2005, 08:35:35 AM
Nah, IceCold's cool for doing that
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 09, 2005, 12:49:27 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Dude, that was posted almost three weeks ago and 40 posts back.  WTF?
Haha, yeah... actually, I was looking for the September NPD console numbers when I stumbled upon it. In fact, I was checking to see if there were any PSP sale #s, to reply to YOU when you asked for them in the PSP thread. But I didn't find them. They might be there though, I just didn't see them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Don'tHate742 on November 09, 2005, 01:41:09 PM
Vudu, I love how you call people out. It's halarious!

Keep up the good work
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 09, 2005, 07:50:35 PM
Media Create 31 Oct - 6 Nov

1. PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachislot Simulator Osu! Banchou - Daito Giken - 96,096 (new)
2. DS Daredemo Asobi Taizen - Nintendo - 58,376 (new)
3. PS2 Beat Down - Capcom - 38,710
4. PS2 Wander and the Colossus - SCE - 27,079 (167,374)
5. DS Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 19,598 (720,223)
6. DS Tamagotchi no Petit Petit Omisetchi - Bandai - 18,959 (359,110)
7. DS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 17,147 (627,872)
8. PSP Nouryoku Trainer Portable - Sega - 16,980 (79,460)
9. DS Pokemon Torouze - Pokemon - 15,785 (112,459)
10. PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! - Bandai - 14,658 (483,923)

Also, UK hardware sales the week GTA LCS was released,

DS = 35,000 units
Game Boy (including SP and Micro) 25,000 units
PSP = 16,000 units
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 09, 2005, 08:08:21 PM
Whoa...that bad? Was it released in the middle of the week though?

NPDs coming soon hopefully...that will defintely give a clearer picture.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 09, 2005, 09:18:48 PM
Not to mention a different picture, cause NPD is US and that's UK.

NPD should be very soon, definately in the next 48 hours.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 10, 2005, 09:15:33 AM
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In fact, I was checking to see if there were any PSP sale #s, to reply to YOU when you asked for them in the PSP thread. But I didn't find them. They might be there though, I just didn't see them.
Thanks for the effort.  Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that September NPD numbers for PSP were never released for some reason.

NPD really sucks.  First they combined GBA and DS numbers, now PSP numbers are completely missing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on November 10, 2005, 09:42:17 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
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In fact, I was checking to see if there were any PSP sale #s, to reply to YOU when you asked for them in the PSP thread. But I didn't find them. They might be there though, I just didn't see them.
Thanks for the effort.  Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that September NPD numbers for PSP were never released for some reason.

NPD really sucks.  First they combined GBA and DS numbers, now PSP numbers are completely missing.


They were... just quite late. I'd have to dig around GA to find them but the number came in at less than the DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on November 10, 2005, 09:50:48 AM
Got it...

Sept NPD  

DS - 168,000
PSP - 146,000

Side note, check out the Micro sales in September:

GBA Micro = 22,500 (ouchies... that's hella low)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 10, 2005, 10:45:36 AM
Are those September or October? Didn't we have September a month ago?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 10, 2005, 11:20:25 AM
Thanks for the info joeposh.  Even though you like to steal bandwidth from others, you still rock.

Artimus - September NPD numbers were missing PSP sales info.  Apparently, the figures were released sometime later, but it wasn't widely publicized (at least not where I hang out).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 10, 2005, 12:04:13 PM
Someone posted it here, I believe
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on November 10, 2005, 02:27:50 PM
Where did you guys get the UK Numbers? Is there a website that keeps track of all of that, kind of like Media Create for Japan? There are too many fanboys that get all rilled up when they see the DS beating the PSP, I need a good source.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 10, 2005, 02:35:39 PM
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Media Create 31 Oct - 6 Nov

1. PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachislot Simulator Osu! Banchou - Daito Giken - 96,096 (new)
2. DS Daredemo Asobi Taizen - Nintendo - 58,376 (new)
3. PS2 Beat Down - Capcom - 38,710
4. PS2 Wander and the Colossus - SCE - 27,079 (167,374)
5. DS Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 19,598 (720,223)
6. DS Tamagotchi no Petit Petit Omisetchi - Bandai - 18,959 (359,110)
7. DS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo - 17,147 (627,872)
8. PSP Nouryoku Trainer Portable - Sega - 16,980 (79,460)
9. DS Pokemon Torouze - Pokemon - 15,785 (112,459)
10. PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! - Bandai - 14,658 (483,923)

Hardware!

DS - 48,520
PSP - 29,395
PS2 - 22,030
GBM - 9,349
GBASP - 7,089
GC - 3,290
GBA - 284
Xbox - 167

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Where did you guys get the UK Numbers? Is there a website that keeps track of all of that, kind of like Media Create for Japan? There are too many fanboys that get all rilled up when they see the DS beating the PSP, I need a good source.

These UK hardware sales aren't actually publicly released, but a Nintendo PR guy who posts on Gaming-Age Forums posted them.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2005, 07:37:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario

Quote

Where did you guys get the UK Numbers? Is there a website that keeps track of all of that, kind of like Media Create for Japan? There are too many fanboys that get all rilled up when they see the DS beating the PSP, I need a good source.

These UK hardware sales aren't actually publicly released, but a Nintendo PR guy who posts on Gaming-Age Forums posted them.


But you can find more UK charts >>HERE<<
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 11, 2005, 08:27:51 AM
Japanese Daily Sales - Thursday Nov 10th 05

1 NGC Mario Party 7 (Nintendo) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
2 PS2 Shinobido Imashime (Spike) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
3 PS2 NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
4 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
5 PS2 Sakigake ! ! Otokojuku (D3) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
6 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
7 NDS Otona no DS Golf (Nintendo) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
8 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 88: The Mini Bijo Keikan (D3) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
9 PS2 The Getaway: Black Monday (Sega) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
10 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
11 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
12 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05

13 PSP Fukufuku no Shima (SCE) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
14 PS2 Fuuuraiki 2 (Fog) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
15 NGC Harvest Moon: Poem of Happiness for World (Marvelous Ent.) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
16 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
17 PSP La Corda d'Oro (Koei) Nov 10th 05 (NEW)
18 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 05
19 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05

20 PS2 Wander and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on November 11, 2005, 10:28:01 AM
US October Hardware Sales

PS2 = 252,000
Xbox = 110,000
GCN = 102,000
GBA = 208,000 (approx)
DS = 136,000 (approx)
PSP = Numbers not avaliable yet... just like last month

October DS Software sales for the US according to NPD (note that copies of Nintendogs bundled with DS' are NOT included in the software sales):

NDS CASTLEVANIA : DAWN OF SORRO 2,651,889 76635
NDS NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRI 1,899,162 61945
NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIE 1,441,089 46984
NDS NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRI 1,205,205 39334
NDS TRAUMA CENTER: UNDER KNIFE 678,848 22959
NDS ADVANCE WARS : DUAL STRIKE 614,016 17746
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 519,791 17271
NDS LOST IN BLUE 445,932 14991
NDS ZOO TYCOON 438,065 14819
NDS MADAGASCAR 349,211 14136
NDS YU-GI-OH! NIGHTMARE 478,107 13917
NDS PAC PIX 260,950 11501
NDS LUNAR DRAGON SONG 376,551 10114
NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE 337,837 9770
NDS PHOENIX WRIGHT: ACE ATTORNE 284,507 9555
NDS ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN 341,238 8617
NDS TRACE MEMORY 233,006 7502
NDS WARIOWARE: TOUCHED! 244,499 7094
NDS TAK 3: GREAT JUJU CHALLENGE 189,485 6511
NDS METROID PRIME PINBALL 216,308 6228
NDS MADDEN NFL 06 202,496 5859
NDS YOSHI TOUCH & GO 173,290 5660
NDS THE SIMS 2 194,348 5601
NDS NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 146,007 4760
NDS METEOS 139,901 4559
NDS RETRO ATARI 68,597 4480
NDS POKEMON DASH 130,923 4242
NDS FIFA SOCCER 06 116,813 3903
NDS SPYRO: SHADOW LEGACY 105,208 3544
NDS GOLDENEYE: ROGUE AGENT 104,295 3500
NDS ROBOTS 68,453 3440
NDS SW EPISODE III: SITH 135,666 3438
NDS MARVEL NEMESIS:RISE IMPERFC 120,533 3402
NDS FROGGER: HELMET CHAOS 91,448 3079
NDS PAC N ROLL 90,011 3041
NDS BOMBERMAN 66,959 2247
NDS POLARIUM 32,814 2213
NDS NANOSTRAY 57,195 1923
NDS T. CLANCYS CHAOS THEORY 70,659 1790
NDS RAYMAN DS 50,347 1730
NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 42,450 1708
NDS ASPHALT: URBAN GT 37,228 1699
NDS THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY 43,907 1543
NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX 20,020 1450
NDS WORLD CHAMP POKER DS 32,174 1343
NDS PING PALS 16,588 1338
NDS TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 31,611 1267
NDS WHAC-A-MOLE 34,222 1194
NDS PUYO POP FEVER 24,208 1128
NDS MADDEN NFL 2005 22,409 1108
NDS ZOO KEEPER 17,901 1014
NDS DIG DUG: DIGGING STRIKE 26,438 890
NDS RIDGE RACER DS 21,787 810
NDS SCOOBY-DOO: UNMASKED 24,006 807
NDS SPRUNG 12,195 753
NDS SPACE INVADERS REVOLUTION 10,323 521
NDS SHREK SUPERSLAM 9,661 328
NDS MR. DRILLER: DRILL 6,777 262

Where the heck did this Pac Pix resurgance come from? Over 11k in sales last month which makes up over a third of it's total sales. Horray for Castlevania! Those sales put it in position to be one of the best selling handheld Castlevania's ever (although it will be hard pressed to pass Circle of the Moon's over 400k in sales). Trauma center did quite well for such an unconvential game and hopefully good word of mouth will help give it legs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney hasn't exactly lit the world on fire but was a rather low key release that came towards the middle of the month (not to mention it only seems to be carried by EB and Gamestop).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 11, 2005, 10:44:27 AM
I wonder if the lack of PSP numbers like last month means they lost again in october.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 11, 2005, 11:37:08 AM
I can't believe that Trauma Center sold more than Advance Wars.  That's ... sad.  I'm also sorry to see Phoenix Wright not do so hot.  I still need to pick that one up one of these days.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 11, 2005, 11:43:49 AM
It's because of the Iraq war (actually in all seriousness it might be)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on November 11, 2005, 12:13:33 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
I can't believe that Trauma Center sold more than Advance Wars.  That's ... sad.  I'm also sorry to see Phoenix Wright not do so hot.  I still need to pick that one up one of these days.


I'm happy for Trauma Center, it's a great game (although it does get frustratingly difficult near the end). Advance Wars definately took a big dip this month though. After a strong 2nd month I was hoping it could sustain moderately high numbers through the holidy. Hopefully the Christmas rush will give it a nice bump.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 11, 2005, 03:43:17 PM
Do we have any GTA numbers?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2005, 04:38:06 PM
Advance Wars: Duel Strike is going STRONG, what are you guys smoking? At this rate it's going to surpass the GBA ones and become the highest selling Advance Wars game ever.

Here's TOTALS to give a better perspective

Super Mario 64 DS            | 1,161,408
WarioWare: Touched!          |   339,428
Spider-Man: The Movie 2      |   330,842
Asphalt: Urban GT            |   221,618
Nintendogs: Dachshund        |   217,635
Yoshi Touch & Go             |   206,772
Nintendogs: Labrador         |   196,079
Madden NFL 2005              |   184,927
Nintendogs: Chihuahua        |   184,914
The Urbz: Sims in City       |   184,521
Kirby: Canvas Curse          |   183,069
Pokemon Dash                 |   129,586
Advance Wars: Dual Strike    |   117,769
SW Episode III: Sith         |   115,377
Ridge Racer DS               |    99,025
Robots                       |    85,004
Rayman DS                    |    80,376
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow   |    76,635
Feel the Magic: XY/XX        |    71,884
Madagascar                   |    68,374
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent       |    67,397
Meteos                       |    66,037
Tiger Woods PGA 2005         |    64,892
Need Speed: Underground 2    |    62,403
Ping Pals                    |    55,693
Mr. Driller: DS              |    52,030
Yu-Gi-Oh Nightmare           |    48,658
Zoo Keeper                   |    43,691
Bomberman                    |    40,237
Pac Pix                      |    38,228
Retro Atari                  |    37,703
Sprung                       |    29,733
T. Clancys Chaos Theory      |    28,972
Polarium                     |    27,823
World Champ Poker DS         |    27,455
Trauma Center                |    22,959
Lost in Blue                 |    22,946
Madden NFL 06                |    20,676
Lunar Dragon Song            |    19,783
Ultimate Spiderman           |    18,217
Nanostray                    |    17,929
Puyo Pop Fever               |    15,604
Zoo Tycoon                   |    14,819
Trace Memory                 |    12,210
Pac n Roll                   |    10,476
Tak 3                        |     9,894
Phoenix Wright               |     9,555
Metroid Prime Pinball        |     6,228
The Sims 2                   |     5,601
FIFA Soccer 06               |     3,903
Frogger: Helmet Chaos        |     3,734
Spyro Shadow Legacy          |     3,544
Marvel Nemesis               |     3,402
Whack A Mole                 |     1,803
Space Invaders Revolution    |     1,071
Dig Dug DS                   |       890
Scooby-Doo Unmasked          |       807
Shrek Superslam              |       328
              |                  
Total LTD                    | 5,172,574

Someone from GAF does these totals in this layout, but I add them up myself just to be sure. Nintendogs climbed up a few more spots, Pac Pix, Trace Memory, Lunar and Kirby made up places and a VERY impressive debut from Castlevania. Pretty bad sales for Metroid Prime Pinball, and Phoenix Wright too, but Capcom only have themselves to blame for that.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 11, 2005, 07:36:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Do we have any GTA numbers?
Yeah  - 158,000 I believe.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 11, 2005, 07:37:55 PM
Those have to be disappointing at best. It won't even outsell Mario 64 DS!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2005, 07:40:14 PM
GTA LCS didn't cause a boost in PSP hardware either, in fact the PSP hardware dropped from last month. Exact numbers are being withheld by Sony.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on November 11, 2005, 09:14:38 PM
So it's Sony who's restricting sales info, and not NPD being incompetent recording the sales. That's very hmm-worthy. Hmm.... So what's the reason for the obfuscated GBA/DS numbers?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 11, 2005, 11:29:07 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Renny

So what's the reason for the obfuscated GBA/DS numbers?
Doesn't NPD combine GBA and DS numbers for some strange reason?

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on November 12, 2005, 02:52:10 AM
You should include a "Nintendogs (all versions)" kind of thing in the future if you don't mind, that way we can see where it stacks up with all of them together (although it's fairly obviously in second behind Mario 64...but when other titles like Mario Kart start to catch up).

Does anyone think anything will surpass the overally Mario 64 numbers?  My money is on Mario Kart, but I still don't know if it could catch it.  Then again if Nintendogs gets a holliday boost then who knows?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2005, 02:55:27 AM
Only when DS was selling less than PSP. Now that PSP is selling less than DS, Sony is exercising the same right that Nintendo was, withholding/combinding #'s.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 12, 2005, 09:45:22 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

Now that PSP is selling less than DS, Sony is exercising the same right that Nintendo was, withholding/combinding #'s.
What is there to combine with the PSP though? At least in the GBA/DS case you could ignoratly say, "well, they are both handhelds and both made by Nintendo so lets combine them in one sum" NPD was the one doing the combining anyway though, right?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on November 12, 2005, 12:57:20 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Those have to be disappointing at best. It won't even outsell Mario 64 DS!


Umm considering that it was on sale for less than a week and still managed to debut at number 3 on the overall sales chart is rather impressive. Obviously it isn't moving at the same rate as it's console counter parts, but it also dealing with a much smaller userbase at this point.

That said, those aren't exactly electrifying numbers... I'm sure it will sell well through the holidays but it doesn't seem to be the "Killer App" that the PSP so desperately needs. It also doesn't surprise me that system sales didn't rise along with the game sales.... after all the majority of current PSP owners have been waiting anxiously for this game for months, and thus I think many of the sales went to pre-existing PSP owners.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2005, 05:39:38 PM
full oct sales japan

DS 231,339
PSP 153,229
PS2 114,120
GBM 101,325
GBASP 44,249
GC 12,261
GBA 1,814
Xbox 711

Total 659,048

1 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Bandai 474,677 474,677
2 DS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Bandai 148,248 307,787
3 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers Nintendo 146,896 947,184
4 PS2 Wander to Kyozou SCE 129,492 129,492
5 DS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training Nintendo 107,379 703,323
6 DS Yawaraka Atamajuku Nintendo 97,343 612,633
7 PS2 Pachinko Shinseiki Evangelion D3 Publisher 76,844 76,844
8 DS Pokemon Torouze Pokemon 75,377 75,377
9 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moushouden Koei 74,812 337,699
10 PSP Nouryoku Trainer Portable Sega 71,510 71,510
11 GBA YuGiOh Duel Monsters GX Konami 59,456 59,456
12 DS nintendogs Shiba/Dach/Chihuahua Nintendo 55,055 741,434
13 PS2 Code Age Commanders Square Enix 54,061 54,061
14 PSP World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Evolution Konami 49,130 169,800
15 DS Super Princess Peach Nintendo 48,867 48,867
16 PS2 Urban Reign Namco 47,778 47,778
17 DS Jump Superstars Nintendo 37,780 403,878
18 GBA Mushiking Sega 34,182 585,543
19 GBA Super Robot Taisen J Banpresto 32,777 172,579
20 GBA Mario Tennis Advance Nintendo 30,688 88,961
21 PS2 Burnout Revenge EA 29,750 29,750
22 PSP Gundam Battle Tactics Bandai 29,632 65,079
23 PS2 Shuffle on the Stage Kadokawa 29,465 29,465
24 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Konami 28,251 904,097
25 PSP Guilty Gear XX Sharp Reload Sega 26,056 26,056
26 PS2 Ultraman Fighting Evolution Banpresto 25,957 25,957
27 GBA Tsuukin Hitofude Nintendo 25,799 25,799
28 GBA Dr. Mario & Panel de Pon Nintendo 25,344 68,891
29 PS2 Rhapsodia Konami 23,438 59,841
30 DS Gyakuten Saiban: Yomigaeru Gyakuten Capcom 21,692 87,150
31 PS2 Hissatsu Ura Kagyou Genki 21,576 43,611
32 GC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars Nintendo 21,516 21,516
33 PS2 Eureka Seven: TR1 NEW WAVE Bandai 20,718 20,718
34 PS2 Formula One 2005 SCEJ 18,410 31,746
35 PS2 Memories Off #5 Togireta Film Kid 17,487 17,487
36 PS2 Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 17,423 36,457
37 PS2 Final Fantasy X (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 15,459 29,226
38 PS2 SIMPLE 2000 SERIES Vol. 81 D3 Publisher 15,362 152,112
39 PS2 Winning Post 7 Koei 15,079 74,124
40 DS Akachan wa doko kara kuru no? Sega 13,756 13,756
41 PS2 D1 Grand Prix 2005 Yukes 13,637 13,637
42 PS2 Harukanaru Jikuu no Naka de 3 Koei 13,109 49,772
43 GC Pokemon XD: Yami no Senpuu Dark Lugia Pokemon 12,854 204,148
44 PS2 Pachinko Pachittechan Huckberry 12,790 12,790
45 GC Super Mario Stadium: Miracle Baseball Nintendo 12,227 189,156
46 PSP BLEACH: Heat the Soul 2 SCE 12,203 58,996
47 DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo 12,026 806,960
48 GBA Screwbreaker Nintendo 11,857 18,018
49 PS2 Rasetsu Alternative Kogado Studio 11,520 11,520
50 GBA Pokemon Emerald Pokemon 11,123 1,611,976
51 DS Power Pocket Koshien Konami 11,099 85,600
52 DS Super Mario 64 DS Nintendo 11,054 774,413
53 PS2 Critical Velocity Namco 10,904 10,904
54 PS2 Grandia III Square Enix 10,515 225,739
55 PS2 Tales of Legendia Namco 10,180 338,100
56 PS2 Kingdom Hearts (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 10,151 18,474
57 DS Rockman EXE 5 DS Twin Leaders Capcom 9,857 62,265
58 PS2 Grand Theft Auto Vice City (CapKore) Capcom 9,852 67,681
59 DS NARUTO RPG 2 Tomy 9,767 105,485
60 GBA Pokemon Fire Red + Leaf Green Pokemon 9,629 2,550,081
61 PSP Burnout Legends EA 9,269 9,269
62 PS2 Naruto: Uzumaki Ninden Bandai 8,912 187,230
63 PSP Formula One 2005 Portable SCEJ 8,418 14,041
64 PSP Princess Crown Atlus 8,350 20,166
65 PS2 Pachislot Kanzen Kouryaku Success 8,278 119,609
66 GBA Gunstar Super Heroes Sega 8,215 8,215
67 PS2 Fighting for One Piece Bandai 8,160 49,366
68 PS2 Final Fantasy X/X-2 (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 7,981 17,511
69 PS2 Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War (PS2 the Best) Namco 7,886 34,385
70 PS2 Mizu no Senritsu Kid 7,817 7,817
71 PS2 Final Fantasy X-2 (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 7,760 13,370
72 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Konami 7,656 429,228
73 PS2 The 3rd Super Robot Taisen Alpha Banpresto 7,609 598,089
74 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 (PS2 the Best) SCEJ 7,586 224,322
75 PS2 Yoshitsune Eiyuuden Shura From Software 7,582 7,582
76 PS2 Momotarou Dentetsu 12 (PS2 the Best) Hudsun 7,156 49,543
77 PS2 Langrisser III Taito 7,113 7,113
78 DS Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta 2 Spike 7,059 7,059
79 PSP Minna no Golf Portable SCEJ 6,995 396,175
80 GBA Super Mario Advance 4 Nintendo 6,958 672,819
81 PS2 Daito Pachislot Simulator Yoshifune Daito Giken 6,899 503,136
82 DS YuGiOh Duel Monsters Nightmare Troubador Konami 6,840 86,056
83 DS Touch! Kirby Nintendo 6,836 251,759
84 PS2 Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny ~Generation of CE~ Bandai 6,751 179,254
85 PS2 Prince of Persia: Kenshi no Kokoro Ubi Soft 6,733 6,733
86 PS2 Summon Night Ecstacy Banpresto 6,656 145,891
87 PS Final Fantasy VII International (Psone Books) Square Enix 6,653 135,687
88 PSP Taiko no Tatsujin Portable Namco 6,434 50,588
89 DS Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! Nintendo 6,284 42,770
90 PS2 Sarugetchu! 3 SCEJ 6,239 209,725
91 PS2 Racing Game Namco 6,229 6,229
92 PS2 Grand Theft Auto III (CapKore) Capcom 6,168 70,564
93 PS2 Fire Pro Returns Spike 6,044 28,368
94 DS Harvest Moon: Corobockle Station Marvelous Interactive 6,011 100,779
95 PSP Gallery Fake Bandai 5,981 5,981
96 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin Tobikkiri! Anime Special Namco 5,848 45,654
97 XB NINJA GAIDEN Black Tecmo 5,826 5,826
98 PSP Sangokushi VI Koei 5,764 5,764
99 PS2 Atlier Marie + Erie 1 + 2 Gust 5,747 5,747
100 GBA Hoshi no Kirby: Kagami no Daimeikyuu Nintendo 5,693 660,082
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 15, 2005, 12:13:41 AM
European sales!

Last week in the UK (second week of GTA PSP being released)
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DS - 40,000
GBA (SP & Micro) - 32,000
PSP - 12,000
PS2 - 35,000
Xbox - 5,000
GameCube - 1,500



Total numbers from France
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DS - 350,000
PSP - 210,000


Spain numbers from the end of September (would be much more in favor of DS now after the Nintendogs explosion)
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NDS - 200,000 sold through (approx.)
PSP - 144,000 shipped


So the DS is dominating in every single region! WITHOUT Mario Kart! Holiday sales everywhere are going to be massive.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 15, 2005, 01:29:59 AM
That's ridiculously good news...too bad in the mainstream's eyes PSP is selling a billion times more....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on November 15, 2005, 02:55:40 AM
The mainstream cant be that stupid.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on November 15, 2005, 03:33:30 AM
i dont think the mainstream really cares about either system; it seems like neither the DS nor PSP are really achieving the desired sales.

having said that, the DS is still kickin some butt
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on November 15, 2005, 06:47:11 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
i dont think the mainstream really cares about either system; it seems like neither the DS nor PSP are really achieving the desired sales.

having said that, the DS is still kickin some butt


Obviously the PSP hasn't become a mainstream status icon ala the Ipod like Sony probably wanted, but it definately is seen as the "cooler" more desirable system by most teens and 20 somethings. I know girls who want one for christmas just cause of "how badass it looks". One of my friends who prides himself on always having the newest and best technology didn't even know what a Nintendo DS was till last week when I was telling him to pick up a Mario Kart DS.

Nintendo has to get their product in the public conciousness, and I think Mario Kart and Nintendogs are definately gonna do alot to acoomplish that, but I'd still like to see some commercials for the system itself.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: OptimusPrime on November 15, 2005, 08:39:59 AM
The PSP getting its ass kicked is just the fact that it's 'look how cool this is' factor is weakening by the minute, all the yupps who buy stuff to impress other probably for the big majority already bought it. And the PS-fanboys with some brains in their heads probably started thinking in the lines of 'so... any new content... that isn't a port or remake...no? well screw that, what does Sony think they can screw my ass for the third time!!, hell no!'
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on November 15, 2005, 10:02:16 AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that of all the video game systems this Holiday season (including 360) DS will be the big winner. Or maybe the Ngage, I don't know for sure.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 15, 2005, 11:14:22 AM
Ehh...the DS is reaching it's one-year birthday in what?  Six days?  If anyone doesn't know what the DS is at this point, then Nintendo's not doing their job right.

That said, the DS is shaping up to be FAR FAR more than the sparkling innovationy Game Boy I thought it would be.  Never before have I been in such a game-related financial crisis.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on November 15, 2005, 11:26:58 AM
"The mainstream cant be that stupid. "

The mainstream think that psp plays dvd "so there are games yet but it plays dvd".
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 15, 2005, 11:32:47 AM
Yes.  The maisnstream also believes that the PSP is a digital camera, a vibrating condom, and a falafel machine.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on November 18, 2005, 09:27:14 AM
     
    "Yes. The maisnstream also believes that the PSP is a digital camera, a vibrating condom, and a falafel      machine."


    To say people have no idea what the PSP actually is, and does... is right.  I work at Gamestop and i've had many people come in with misconceptions.  The most prevalent is, like someone else said, thinking it plays DVD's.  As soon as I tell them it doesn't play DVD and then direct them to the UMD section I can INSTANTLY see them lose all interest in the PSP after eye balling the prices of UMD's a few seconds.  Not to mention when I inform them that it can indeed store digital media off of your computer but only if you buy an expensive memory stick.... the price point is really killing Sony.

    Even quite a few of the so-called tech guys who have to have the newest and the best are turned off by it.  It's just a money sink if you actually want to get any functionality out of it concerning movies and digital media off your computer.  And if people arent willing to shove out the dough for the extra their left with what.... the games?... not much of a reason to buy a PSP. Thats why the sales figures showing the DS trouncing the PSP line up exactly with what I see when im working.  

    Minimal Cost of PSP entry (for full functionality) - $600.00, $250.00 for the PSP, $50.00-100.00 for memory stick, 2 games + 2 movies.

    Minimal Cost of DS entry (also with full functionality) - $250.00, which will get you your shiny new ds and three full price games with money to spare.

   Sony needs to find a way to cut costs if they hope to compete in sales figures against the DS. In the meantime I will be playing my DS.

     
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 20, 2005, 03:52:21 PM
No one posted this week's Japanese sales! Odd.

1 GC     Mario Party 7 - 83,974
2 PS2    Shinobido Imashime - 48,760
3 DS    Daredemo Asobi Taizen - 37,773
4 PS2    Daito Giken Official Pachinko Slot Simulator: Osu! Bancho - 29,112
5 PS2    NBA Live 06 - 20,883
6 DS    DS Training For Adults: Work Your - 19,335
7 DS    Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop! - 16,483
8 DS    Gentle Brain Exercises - 14,862
9 PSP    Brain Trainer Portable - 14,552
10 PS2    Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance - 13,572

DS     48,342
PSP    31,078
PS2    19,277
GBM    9,151
GBASP    6,143
GC    4,368
GBA    227
Xbox    119
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 21, 2005, 02:56:48 AM
It's funny how the DS keeps selling, I just read a Japanese survey on The Magic Box and apparently more people have interest in PSP...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 21, 2005, 05:00:18 AM
Just a thought, maybe the PSP is too expensive?  Everyone wants one, but at the price, it can be hard to justify.  I don't remember for sure, but I think that the PSP is basically the most expensive system on the market right now, isn't it?  Well, that's going to change this week with the launch of Xbox 360, but I don't think that will make it look any more attractive in Japan.  Maybe when all the new consoles are out, PSP will start to look cheap in comparison and will sell more over there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on November 21, 2005, 05:04:46 AM
sony isnt selling the psp with the value pack in Japan, is it?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 21, 2005, 07:12:11 AM
They offer both versions.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 21, 2005, 01:10:45 PM
Well the interest in the PSP is probably for the same reasons it is here, it looks cool, but when people actually see what it can do and look at its price they decide its not worth it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 21, 2005, 09:05:19 PM
Heh - thanks Perm

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According to Nintendo, in one week more than 45% of the people who have purchased Mario Kart DS have taken their game online via the free Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service.



In just one week, more than 112,000 copies of Mario Kart DS have been sold in the US. Of that number more than 52,000 unique system/game pairs have connected to the online service for Wi-Fi multiplayer gaming.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 21, 2005, 09:23:57 PM
Heh, I'm still in the majority then.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 21, 2005, 10:52:58 PM
Heh, first thing I did was take the game online. It was really spiffy and lots of fun. I'm now going back though grand prix to unlock characters and such.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Caterkiller on November 22, 2005, 06:33:29 AM
I figure if Nintendo could get me to go online regularly and love it they can get anyone online.

Good news for Nintendo, I really think they will expand they online Market by leaps and bounds.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on November 22, 2005, 07:47:08 AM
   And thus we see Nintendos online philosophy start to take shape with much success.  45% penetration is HUGH! With the Big N's first effort into the online forum they completely decimated any single xbox live offering. Now thats saying something.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JonLeung on November 22, 2005, 08:10:57 AM
Well, it's Mario Kart.  I don't like racing games but even I like Mario Kart.  And it's always been a great multi-player game.  The amount of people online with it may be surprising, but if any game was ever going to get it that high, it's really no surprise that it's Mario Kart.

Then there's Animal Crossing: Wild World, a game that is appropriate for social interaction.  The DS is going to pull people online since it's free and easy.  So many already have if Mario Kart is any indication, and Animal Crossing and hopefully later games will maintain that momentum.  Metroid Prime: Hunters will get those with trigger fingers excited, hopefully, and then if the Revolution uses the same or similar system, wow.  Looks like Sony's going to appear behind in the online department now.

And with the PSP's lack of exciting games (IMO), the DS will probably continue to outsell the PSP for a while.

All I ever hear about the PSP (at least on the Internet) is how people want to emulate Super NES games (or put pornographic videos) on there.  It's not very exciting as a gaming system just looking at its own library of games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on November 22, 2005, 04:07:11 PM
45% is huge considering that many people won't be getting the game from their friends and family until Christmas...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on November 22, 2005, 05:07:29 PM
   Good point.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 22, 2005, 06:08:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Caterkiller

Good news for Nintendo, I really think they will expand they online Market by leaps and bounds.
Now if they could only do something about the pimple faced dorks who on track 4 when i'm about to take the victory just suddenly disconnect... I think i'm given the Win anyway, but its just stupid. I mean is not like they couldn't try to win again in the next set of 4 tracks...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Grant10k on November 22, 2005, 08:14:43 PM
When I got the game I didn't even go home first, I walked right back into best buy to the Geek Squad counter and plugged into their WiFi (so to speak)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Caterkiller on November 22, 2005, 08:33:38 PM
"Now if they could only do something about the pimple faced dorks who on track 4 when i'm about to take the victory just suddenly disconnect... I think i'm given the Win anyway, but its just stupid. I mean is not like they couldn't try to win again in the next set of 4 tracks..."

Yeah I can't stand that! If I am loosing constantly I still race, If my opponents are winning they deserve it and I continue. You will never see me "Wushu Lv3" disconnect from a race just because im loosing. Though a couple of times I got disconnected while I had huge leads in races and points.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris1 on November 23, 2005, 08:23:27 AM
I know this is the wrong place to ask, but does anyone know the gta psp sales? im just intrested to see if mario kart sold more in its first week.  it kinda seems like sony is keeping it to itself
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 23, 2005, 09:41:06 AM
LS sold 158,000 copies in 13 days. It came out the 23, but NPD does sales data to the 5th.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on November 23, 2005, 09:50:40 AM
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Originally posted by: NobleXenon54
45% is huge considering that many people won't be getting the game from their friends and family until Christmas...


Whaaaaa????

That statement makes no sense.  Are you saying the people getting the game for Xmas are more likely to go online with the game than the people who went out and bought it the first week?

Even if 10,000,000 people get the game for Christmas, if the same ratio of them go online that number will still be 45%....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on November 23, 2005, 11:18:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: hudsonhawk
Quote

Originally posted by: NobleXenon54
45% is huge considering that many people won't be getting the game from their friends and family until Christmas...


Whaaaaa????

That statement makes no sense.  Are you saying the people getting the game for Xmas are more likely to go online with the game than the people who went out and bought it the first week?

Even if 10,000,000 people get the game for Christmas, if the same ratio of them go online that number will still be 45%....


Uh, no. I'm saying that some people who bought the game for their friends and families will not be able to play that game until Christmas day, when they open their gifts and get to play it...

Here is some math:

112,000 sold in one week.

45% played online, which will be 50,400.

There are 61,600 that didn't play online, but how many of those are wrapped in foil and will not be able to open it to play it until Christmas?  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on November 23, 2005, 11:46:20 AM
I get it, at first I didn't. Also there are those who have the game yet have no working DS to play it on.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 23, 2005, 06:41:10 PM
November 14 - 20

01 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam Seed: Union vs Z.A.F.T. - 298,000 (298,000)
02 NDS Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Ao no Kyuujotai - 124,000 (124,000)
03 GBA Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Aka no Kyuujoutai - 113,000 (113,000)
04 PS2 J.LEAGUE Winning Eleven 9 Asia Championship - 43,000 (43,000)
05 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen - 35,000 (131,000)
06 NGC Mario Party 7 - 30,000 (114,000)
07 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - 24,000 (763,000)
08 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - 17,000 (660,000)
09 PS2 Shinobido Imashime - 17,000 (65,000)
10 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou - 17,000 (142,000)

Nintendo continues to dominate gaming
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 25, 2005, 03:46:11 PM
Reports are coming in saying Animal Crossing DS sold over 300,000 in it's first two days of release in Japan, and DS sales "greatly increased". Of course, we got a report like this when Jump Superstars came out and it turned out to be a bit lower in the actual sales chart, but I think 300,000 for this is believable, we'll see.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 25, 2005, 04:39:52 PM
I think 300,000 is a fair estimate for the game that's going to easily surpass Mario Kart DS for best game

EVER
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 25, 2005, 05:47:54 PM
Several sites reported Animal Crossing had 400,000 preorders.

This week's sales:

DS     65,341
PSP    58,898
PS2    21,102
GBM    9,140
GBASP    6,822
GC    5,661
GBA    249
Xbox    141

What was up in handheld land this week?

1. PS2 - Mobile Suit Gundam: The Federation vs. Z.A.F.T. - 298,364
2. DS - Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force - 123,556
3. GBA - Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red Rescue Force -112,898
4. PS2 -  J-League Winning Eleven 9: Asia Championship - 42,910
5. DS - Daredemo Asobi Taizen - 34,832
6. GCN - Mario Party 7 - 29,622
7. DS -  DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain - 23,793
8. DS - Gentle Brain Exercises - 16,839
9. PS2 - Shinobido Imashime - 16,635
10. PS2 - Daito Giken Official Pachinko Slot Simulator: Osu! Bancho - 16,524
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 25, 2005, 06:00:27 PM
PSP Giga Pack released, PSP sales should drop off next week. It's pretty odd that people aren't buying games with their new PSP's.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 25, 2005, 06:05:46 PM
Probably buying the latest veedee-oh phones with them.  And dying their hair bright orange.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 25, 2005, 06:32:58 PM
Oh yeah, you guys that thought all these massive DS sales were just in Japan? THINK AGAIN!
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For the last three weeks, sales of Nintendo DS exceeded 100,000 units per week, and last week alone sales topped 120,000 across Europe.

That's even MORE than Japan!
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Hit releases like Nintendogs are also having a massive impact on Nintendo's hand-held popularity, reaching new gamers and creating an overnight phenomenon. Since its launch on October 7th in Europe, over 1 million copies of the game have been sold. Nintendogs has become like gold dust across Europe with stocks flying off shelves as soon as they arrive in store.


Nintendos biggest new franchise since Pokemon!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 28, 2005, 02:47:58 PM
Australian 2005 Sales
Source: GfK : published in The Australian (29/11/2005) 29.

DS    120 066
GBA  105 143
PSP    76 288

PS2    200 580
XBOX 111 355
GC       17 380

Lifetime Totals

PS2     1 500 000
XBOX      747 000
GC          144 000
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 29, 2005, 01:25:58 AM
Nintendos biggest new franchise since Pokemon!

To be fair, how many franchises has Nintendo introduced since then?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hans Beckert on November 29, 2005, 03:08:35 AM
To be fair, how many franchises has Nintendo introduced since then?

Quite a few, actually. Smash Bros., Paper Mario, Custom Robo, Wave Race, 1080 Snowboarding, Legend of Stafi, WarioWare, Magical Vacation, Band Brothers, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, and Cubivore--or was that just published by Nintendo? I dunno.

There's also Geist and Eternal Darkness, which were primarily developed by other companies, but which Nintendo had a hand in making, and which they published and now own. Don't know if you'd count them. I think they own Doshin, too, and maybe the Skip games, Chibi Robo and Giftpia... Not sure about their involvement in or ownership of Golden Sun, Another Code, Detect Hacker, or Wish Room, though.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 29, 2005, 10:27:05 AM
Well, you could say that Smash Bros, Paper Mario and Wario Ware are part of existing franchises. But, yeah, you're right...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 29, 2005, 10:50:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Hans Beckert

Not sure about their involvement in or ownership of Golden Sun, Another Code, Detect Hacker, or Wish Room, though.
And where does Advace Wars and Fire Emblem fit in? I know they are published by Nintendo, but doesn't someone else program/develop them? Or are they kind of like Metroid Prime, Nintendo originals, just programed by someone else.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on November 29, 2005, 11:00:07 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Quote

Originally posted by: Hans Beckert

Not sure about their involvement in or ownership of Golden Sun, Another Code, Detect Hacker, or Wish Room, though.
And where does Advace Wars and Fire Emblem fit in? I know they are published by Nintendo, but doesn't someone else program/develop them? Or are they kind of like Metroid Prime, Nintendo originals, just programed by someone else.


Those two are developed by Intelligent Systems, which is an internal studio inside Nintendo. Those franchises, along with Custom Robo, are only new to the US, though, as there have been incarnations of them in Japan for eons.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 29, 2005, 03:31:28 PM
Advance Wars and Fire Emblem were around on the NES/SNES.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 29, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
If Ninty publishes a new franchise, I'm fairly sure the fate of it is entirely in their hands...Like with Rare, they had the ability to keep the franchises but went ahead and gave them up...

Since Camelot is so buddy-buddy with Ninty, I'd say that Golden Sun (and any future Camelot franchises) are Ninty's...I'd assume the other games such as Another Code are Ninty's as well...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on November 29, 2005, 05:20:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
If Ninty publishes a new franchise, I'm fairly sure the fate of it is entirely in their hands...Like with Rare, they had the ability to keep the franchises but went ahead and gave them up...

Since Camelot is so buddy-buddy with Ninty, I'd say that Golden Sun (and any future Camelot franchises) are Ninty's...I'd assume the other games such as Another Code are Ninty's as well...


Did Nintendo have the ability to keep Rare's franchises without a legal fight?  I just don't buy into the fact that Nintendo just let stuff that could be theirs...  Actually I just checked Rareware copyrighted Perfect Dark as well as published it themselves.  So if Nintendo fought all they'd get is Banjo/Conker (maybe don't have those games to check on publication).

Bill, I just don't think the business world works like that...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 29, 2005, 05:24:44 PM
Actually Conker was published by Rare as well...

I'm not a business guy, so I'd love it if someone could explain how it really works...I just can't recall a franchise that began on Ninty hardware, that was published by Ninty, and later went over to competing systems...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on November 29, 2005, 05:32:59 PM
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Originally posted by: odifiend
Bill, I just don't think the business world works like that...


Nintendo does, and did. They owned the copyright to several of Rare's properties, including Killer Instinct and Banjo-Kazooie, but gave them to Rare when they let them go, just keeping the stuff related to Donkey Kong. However, they didn't know at the time that they gave these away that Microsoft would be the one purchasing them, and anyone else recall Microsoft being mad that Donkey Kong wasn't part of the agreement?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on November 29, 2005, 05:43:01 PM
What in the bleep would have made Microsoft think that Donkey Kong, the original Nintendo franchise, would have been part of the deal?  I guess that is why DK was getting mentions when Grabbed by the Ghoulies was released.
Hmm... Nintendo needs to be more ruthless .
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cubist on November 29, 2005, 07:19:22 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: odifiend
What in the bleep would have made Microsoft think that Donkey Kong, the original Nintendo franchise, would have been part of the deal?  I guess that is why DK was getting mentions when Grabbed by the Ghoulies was released.
Hmm... Nintendo needs to be more ruthless .


Are you kidding me?  Are we being serious with thinking that MS would have a R&D group that stupid before purchasing RARE?  This is a pretty lame debate.  MS knew they weren't getting DK IPs...and it was right for RARE to leave with their original IPs.  Too bad Crystal Dynamics and Eidos didn't show Silicon Knights the same kind of love with the Legacy of Kain series.

Back on topic:  The Nintendo DS is surprisingly making it through the GTA:LCS buzz.  I know a lot of people who'd love to pick up this game and I thought it would be the PSPs killer app to take over the handheld market.  While still up in the air, the DS looks healthy with Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and more excellent software coming out.  

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 30, 2005, 04:58:37 AM
When it comes to games that were published by one company and developed by another, I think it depends a lot on the initial contracts the companies had regarding those games, and how rough n' tough the companies are.  In the end, I think leaving Rare with all of it's own liscences in tact probably worked out for the best for Nintendo, because Rare keeps developing new games for the GBA and DS.  If Nintendo had been really hard-headed about it, the working relationship may have been lost.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2005, 05:41:57 PM
sorry to interrupt the conversation but...

Weekly Japanese Software Sales Nov 21st - 27th

01. NDS Animal Crossing - Nintendo - 325,466
02. GCN Naruto 4 - Tomy - 122,322
03. GBA Rockman EXE 6 Grayga - Capcom - 107,099

04. PS2 Soul Calibur III - Namco - 106,920
05. PS2 Ratchet & Clank 4th - SCE - 85,487
06. GBA Rockman EXE 6 Falzar - Capcom - 65,560
07. GBA Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon Red - Pokemon - 57,143 (170,041)

08. PS2 Ikusagami - Genki - 52,547
09. NDS Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon Blue - Pokemon - 50,309 (173,865)
10. PS2 Gundam Seed Rengou vs ZAFT - Bandai - 42,427 (340,791)
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11. PS2 Castlevania - Konami
12. NDS Otona no DS Training - Nintendo
13. NDS Daredemo Asobi Taizen - Nintendo
14. GCN Mario Party 7 - Nintendo

15. PS2 J.League Winning Eleven 9 Asia Championship - Konami
16. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku - Nintendo
17. NDS Tamagotchi - Bandai

18. PS2 Daito Pachislot - Daito
19. PSP Talkman - SCE
20. PS2 One Piece Pirates Carnival - Bandai
21. PSP Nouryoku Trainer Portable - Sega
22. PS2 .hack//fragment - Bandai
23. PSP Harvest Moon Boy & Girl - MMV
24. GBA Super Mario Brothers 20th Anniversary - Nintendo
25. NDS Pokemon Torouze - Pokemon

26. PSP Minna no Golf Portable (Best) - SCE
27. PS2 SSX On Tour - EA
28. PS2 Shinobido Imashime - Spike
29. PS2 Rebirth Moon - Idea Factory
30. GBA Konjiki no Gashbell - Banpresto

hardware tomorrow
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 30, 2005, 06:01:12 PM
GO ANIMAL CROSSING!

DS hardware numbers are rumored to be at a whooping 160,000.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 30, 2005, 06:17:40 PM
When does MK come out?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 30, 2005, 06:52:57 PM
December 8, along with Mushi King DS. Dragon sideQuest DS comes out today.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 30, 2005, 07:08:11 PM
Animal Crossing is the new Nintendogs!  Except it's not a new franchise...Whoops!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on November 30, 2005, 07:37:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
December 8, along with Mushi King DS.


Good timing for the Mushi King title, considering Toho is releasing a theatrical film (double-billed with the Sazer-X movie) based on the series in theaters on December 17th.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 30, 2005, 10:06:46 PM
Whoa, Dengeki weekly sales actually has ACWW at 362,000, considering 400,000 were shipped, and not EVERY single sale is counted in sales charts, the game sold out completely. Animal Crossing on GC only sold about 90,000 in its first week, but had really long legs, and many AC fans were born, and since DS is where all the tradional gamers are now, everyone is grabbing ACWW straight away.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 01, 2005, 10:51:35 AM
CONGRATS
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 01, 2005, 10:58:48 AM
If you don't know already, but that dog died about a week or so ago.  I saw it on the TV news.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 01, 2005, 11:02:53 AM
I heard that.  It really is the ugliest dog in the world.  I heard if you collect all Nintendogs in all three versions and then think up 3 DS' together with the games in them you can unlock Sam.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on December 01, 2005, 12:08:40 PM
argh, my eyes >_< Im going to play with my puppy to forget that hideous vision, thanks heavens it died .
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 01, 2005, 12:49:20 PM
The dog or the lady =D
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on December 01, 2005, 01:02:38 PM
My Mom was talking about that dog yesterday.  She needs to work on her adjectives because it's a million times uglier then she made it out to be.

The lady isn't so hot either but that's more in a "I would not want to f*ck her" way than a "I am frightened by her appearance" way.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on December 01, 2005, 03:28:35 PM
Does anyone know what the hardware numbers for the DS and PSP were in July (NPD)? I looked back at this thread and it went from June to August. Oh, and one more thing, were the PSP numbers for October released yet(NPD)?

Thanks again.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2005, 03:37:44 PM
PSP numbers aren't released when it sells poorly...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MysticGohan24 on December 01, 2005, 03:39:07 PM
What is up with that dog? what's the story, that thing looked to have suffered quite abit. I don't know weither to feel sorry or wtf is wrong with that picture.

Pro you have once again disturbed the mind beyond belief, you should be in the next ED game
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 01, 2005, 03:44:33 PM
DS     132,012
PSP    51,196
PS2    27,545
GBM    7,594
GBASP    5,709
GC    5,130
GBA    241
Xbox    128

Woohoo. Can't wait to see what MK does.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on December 01, 2005, 04:00:31 PM
Look at how Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.  They have a next gen console that is sold out and nobody will touch their old one out of anticipation for their new one.  At least their marketing is... a presence.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2005, 04:04:09 PM
Ahaha, that's the Japanese sales chart...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 01, 2005, 04:04:23 PM
Those are Japanese numbers.  No one EVER cared about the Xbox there.

edit: oh sup bill
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 01, 2005, 04:08:07 PM
If anything, the Xbox 360 is causing the massive resurgence in Xbox sales the past month, it was in the double digits before, with sales almost DOUBLING that now, it's clear that Microsoft are the ones with the momentum going into the next generation.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on December 01, 2005, 04:21:14 PM
Ah, my bad.  Yeah I thought that was NPD.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 01, 2005, 04:57:10 PM
I read something somewhere that it is expected for the PSP to have done worse than expected in November. (don't know how bad, however.)  I don't remember where I read that bit of info.

I think it is in US they were talking about, what I read.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 01, 2005, 05:13:30 PM
Your last sentence SUCKS.....grammatically.....yeah......
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 02, 2005, 06:55:43 AM
And your point is?  I made my point.  I don't care if I didn't bother to take the time to write it perfectly, it was late and I was tired.  But to make you happy, I will rewrite my last sentence to make it meet with your grammar approval!

"I think that the article, which I read previously, was referring to the U.S.A. consumer market.  That is, at least, what I took away from the article."

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 02, 2005, 12:59:47 PM
hahaha....i wasn't trying to be mean, i just thought it was funny.....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 02, 2005, 01:28:22 PM
Apparantly the PSP sold 41,000 units in November! The DS sold 312,000! Whoa...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 02, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Holy sh!t!

In the US? Nintendo can't be beat in the handheld market, and as soon as they release a black or white DS, tally another one up for me.

ARTIMUS IS A LIEING CHEATING BASTARD! That's right....i said it.....we were all thinking it
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 02, 2005, 03:44:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Don'tHate742
hahaha....i wasn't trying to be mean, i just thought it was funny.....



Okay, then I apologize for being nasty-ish.  



Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 02, 2005, 05:01:31 PM
I just made those #s up, btw.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2005, 01:47:55 PM
Japanese DS vs PSP sales #'s

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on December 03, 2005, 09:43:24 PM
I wonder when Sony will realize that they need some really good games to have a chance in the handheld market.  Porting PS2 games are not going to get them anywhere or is filling up retail stores with loads of psp movies instead of games.  It's gonna be great seeing Nintendo light up the holiday sales charts!

-Totally lovin all the brand spankingly fresh games on my DS!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on December 04, 2005, 12:08:40 AM
Does anyone remember off hand what the US DS vs PSP numbers are again...I know it's approximate, and it get's asked about every other page.

Does anyone at least maybe remember what page the latest ones were on?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on December 04, 2005, 01:30:59 AM
Page 25, assuming your pages are the same as mine.

Basically, as of June of this year, it was about...

NDS: 1,850,000
PSP: 1,500,000

But those are just rough guesses. Then NPD vocally decided they didn't want the info getting out anymore, and the flow mostly dried up, but it's believed that the PSP continued it's trend of stomping the DS in America after a powerful launch (despite a Mario64DS bundle), finished closing the gap, and probably even pulled into the lead. (If you want a guess, I'd say just under 2 million for each of them.)

Then the second wave of DS games (Nintendogs, Castlevania, etc.) hit America, and is believed to have put the momentum back on Nintendo's side. How strong is anyone's guess. But it presumably held until now, with Mario Kart, WiFi, and Animal Crossing giving Nintendo an additional kick of unknown size. It's likely that with Nintendo being in the lead going into the holidays, and with nobody else having much going on in the console front (aside from some fruitless Xbox360 advertising), the DS will likely win a significant victory over the PSP. Possibly large enough to cement the PSP's doom in America. Unless Sony pulls a rabbit out of their hat. Then Nintendo is doomed, of course. (But seriously, if the PSP manages to win Christmas somehow, then the DS might not ever recover in America. It's a very dangerous time in the console war.)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 04, 2005, 06:25:33 AM
(But seriously, if the PSP manages to win Christmas somehow, then the DS might not ever recover in America. It's a very dangerous time in the console war.)

What surprise?  Pigs can now fly PSP? =P
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 04, 2005, 11:49:18 AM
I actually think the Xbox 360 will do in PSP.  Why?  Those that actually know portable gaming know that DS is the better system and will buy it.  Nobody questions Nintendo's product as having better software, and more variety.  

Those that don't know the industry very well are all trying to pick up that Xbox 360 and would sell their souls for it.  I don't see parents buying a portable system to justify not finding the Xbox 360.  I see them buying either more games, or whatever is the second big thing on the shopping list.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Urkel on December 04, 2005, 08:51:33 PM
I agree that the Xbox 360 is hurting the PSP. Remember the sluggish PSP launch in North America? Everybody was all like "Yeah, well that's only because it launched in March. Just wait until the holiday season. It'll be the big 'must have' item of the year."

Although I think the PSP just about lost all the hype it had going for it at launch anyway, the 360 is considered in the mainstream to be the "Big must have item" of the holiday season. The 360 is stealing whatever limelight the PSP could've had.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ThePerm on December 04, 2005, 08:57:33 PM
and it doesnt help that nintendo has mario kart out
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MysticGohan24 on December 04, 2005, 09:03:02 PM
Indeed, this will be quite the competive christmas, eh? PSP is just an overly glorified DVD wanna be player with extra options that just not worth the price of admission to watch, I'd rather have a portable DVD player then I could watch all my movies on the go. Not go out and buy a UMD that's inferior to DVD.

That's why I have a DS, more entertaining

Oh btw OT, How's my new avatar?   I'm sure bill would approve.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: trip1eX on December 04, 2005, 09:20:17 PM
The PSP is doing alot better in America than in Japan I believe.  I know the PSP GTA game sold well the other month.  And so did Madden.  

I don't think the DS is dead even if the PSP is in the lead.  There's room for both.  The DS is at the lower end of the handheld market.  And it's unique at that.  PLus there's the gameboy advance.  I did here Reggie say they are going to revise the DS hardware a bit to make it look sexier like the PSP.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RABicle on December 04, 2005, 10:01:13 PM
I hate you trip1eX
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 05, 2005, 04:44:46 AM
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Originally posted by: trip1eX
The PSP is doing alot better in America than in Japan I believe.  I know the PSP GTA game sold well the other month.  And so did Madden.  

I don't think the DS is dead even if the PSP is in the lead.  There's room for both.  The DS is at the lower end of the handheld market.  And it's unique at that.  PLus there's the gameboy advance.  I did here Reggie say they are going to revise the DS hardware a bit to make it look sexier like the PSP.


You "know"? Meaning? Your EB store sold ten of them? Analysts were saying last week how bad game sales had been in November, and PSP was on the disappointing list.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on December 05, 2005, 04:50:33 AM
I read good numbers somewhere about gta, but I know that nintendogs and Mario kart also sold very well, and that in nintendogs release week DS outsold the pspby a bunch, and last NPD figures were very good for the DS, and the psp numbers were misteriously not there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2005, 05:41:59 AM
Perhaps the XCircle stole the PSP's thunder? The PSP doesn't have a better lineup than the XC anyway.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 05, 2005, 06:48:57 AM
What I don't get is how people can keep saying that either of these systems are "doomed".  The sales are basically even in North America and DS is only outselling PSP by maybe 2:1 in Japan.  If that's all it takes to doom PSP, then GameCube should have disappeared from the market years ago.  If anything this is the closest battle the industry has seen since the days of the Super NES and Genesis.

The same thing goes for DS.  Of course we don't hear too many comments about DS being doomed in this forum nowdays, but I do hear it elsewhere, and the people thinking that are just nuts.  Both systems are going to be around for a long time.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on December 05, 2005, 06:50:47 AM
I think neither handheld has break Game Gear numbers, so both are doomed so far
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on December 05, 2005, 07:19:05 AM
I dont understand why people are buying the PSP.... it seems like the hype really died down and I'm hoping that people will just give up on it. I always ask my gamespot employees how the PSP and DS are sellling, and they always tell me the same thing: they are pushing way more PSPs than DSes... i still don't know if that's just some sales pitch to try to get me to buy the cooler system or if they really know it. still,,, my friend who owns both spends waaayy more time with Advance Wars than Spiderman 2 UMD (or anything else he has for the PSP)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2005, 08:47:31 AM
Perhaps the DS is more popular with parents and casuals who are more likely to shop at Walmart than Gamestop?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 05, 2005, 11:30:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict

I always ask my gamespot employees how the PSP and DS are sellling, and they always tell me the same thing: they are pushing way more PSPs than DSes... i still don't know if that's just some sales pitch to try to get me to buy the cooler system or if they really know it.
Well, here is, at the very least, an anecdotal way to determine. Does this gamespot/stop/EB/whatever have any used PSPs in stock? If the store has used PSPs on display, i'd lean more twords the sales pitch idea for this particular store.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 05, 2005, 11:38:12 AM
Well, both EBgames.com and Gamestop.com have used PSPs for sale.  DS?  NOPE.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2005, 08:38:08 AM
UK Sales Chart

TW Title Developer Label Publisher
1 1 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED EA CANADA EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
2 2 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI CORPORATION KONAMI KONAMI
4 3 FIFA 06 EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
3 4 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE EA CHERTSEY EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
5 5 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF GENUINE GAMES SIERRA VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
9 6 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE TREYARCH ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
6 7 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II PANDEMIC STUDIOS LUCASARTS LUCASARTS
12 8 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT UBISOFT UBISOFT
10 9 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES ROCKSTAR LEEDS ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
7 10 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 YUKE'S THQ THQ
36 11 CALL OF DUTY 2 INFINITY WARD ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
- 12 PERFECT DARK ZERO RARE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
11 13 THE SIMS 2 MAXIS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
30 14 NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH & WARDROBE TRAVELLER'S TALES DISNEY INTERACTIVE BUENA VISTA GAMES
14 15 GUN NEVERSOFT ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
- 16 PROJECT GOTHAM RACING 3 BIZARRE CREATIONS MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
20 17 TRUE CRIME: NEW YORK CITY LUXOFLUX ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
15 18 SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG SONIC TEAM SEGA SEGA
16 19 FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE EA REDWOOD SHORES EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
23 20 CRASH TAG TEAM RACING RADICAL ENTERTAINMENT SIERRA VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
17 21 TONY HAWK'S AMERICAN WASTELAND NEVERSOFT ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
13 22 MARIO KART DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
34 23 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 06 EA REDWOOD SHORES EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
22 24 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2006 SPORTS INTERACTIVE SEGA SEGA
8 25 WORLD TOUR SOCCER LONDON STUDIOS SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
29 26 BRATZ: ROCK ANGELZ ALTRON THQ THQ
26 27 BUZZ! THE MUSIC QUIZ RELENTLESS STUDIOS SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
18 28 THE MATRIX: PATH OF NEO SHINY ENTERTAINMENT ATARI ATARI
- 29 PRINCE OF PERSIA: THE TWO THRONES UBISOFT (MONTREAL) UBISOFT UBISOFT
28 30 THE SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN RADICAL ENTERTAINMENT PLATINUM VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
25 31 THE SIMS 2: CHRISTMAS PARTY PACK MAXIS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
33 32 POKEMON EMERALD GAME FREAK NINTENDO NINTENDO
32 33 SONIC HEROES SONIC TEAM PLATINUM SEGA
27 34 THE WARRIORS ROCKSTAR TORONTO ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
31 35 AGE OF EMPIRES III ENSEMBLE STUDIOS MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
- 36 CONDEMNED: CRIMINAL ORIGINS MONOLITH SEGA SEGA
- 37 CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY HIGH VOLTAGE GLOBAL STAR TAKE 2
21 38 LMA MANAGER 2006 CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS
- 39 QUAKE 4 RAVEN SOFTWARE ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
38 40 ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN TREYARCH ACTIVISION ACTIVISION

UK Sales chart DS

1 1 MARIO KART DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
2 2 SONIC RUSH SONIC TEAM SEGA SEGA
10 3 NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH & WARDROBE GRIPTONITE DISNEY INTERACTIVE BUENA VISTA GAMES
5 4 THE SIMS 2 GRIPTONITE EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
6 5 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE MAGIC POCKETS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 6 SUPER MARIO 64 DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
8 7 STAR WARS EP III: REVENGE OF THE SITH UBISOFT (MONTREAL) UBISOFT UBISOFT
3 8 NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
7 9 NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
4 10 NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
19 11 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED EA CANADA EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
13 12 ZOO TYCOON DS BLUE FANG THQ THQ
11 13 SPIDER-MAN 2 VICARIOUS VISIONS ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
15 14 SPYRO: SHADOW LEGACY THE FIZZ FACTOR SIERRA VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
17 15 FIFA 06 EXIENT EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
14 16 MADAGASCAR VICARIOUS VISIONS ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
- 17 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT (CASABLANCA) UBISOFT UBISOFT
16 18 ZOO KEEPER SUCCESS IGNITION IGNITION
20 19 ANIMANIACS: LIGHTS, CAMERA, ACTION WARTHOG IGNITION IGNITION
- 20 SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS: YELLOW AVENGER TANTALUS THQ THQ

PSP - 79,000
Xbox360 -70,000
DS - 63,000 (w/ supply problems - sold out of Nintendogs bundles)
GBA/M - 40,000  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on December 06, 2005, 08:40:28 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Perhaps the DS is more popular with parents and casuals who are more likely to shop at Walmart than Gamestop?


PSP is more popular in EB Games/Gamestop whereas Walmart has a partnership with Nintendo.  I was in EB games today, and in the span of 20 minutes they sold 3 PSPs all to moms.  Afterwards, I was walking through Sears and another mom asked about the PSP.  Advertising for the PSP has been more of presence lately as well.  ruby might be right - 360 shortage might be helping the PSP.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 06, 2005, 08:53:21 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict

I always ask my gamespot employees how the PSP and DS are sellling, and they always tell me the same thing: they are pushing way more PSPs than DSes... i still don't know if that's just some sales pitch to try to get me to buy the cooler system or if they really know it.


Well, I know when the NGage came out, I casually asked about it and they told me it was selling great and that I needed one.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 06, 2005, 03:08:43 PM
sales peopple will ALWAYS push the more expensive system that has more features as a better buy, because they are paid on commission.  Regarding teh DS, I have a die harsd sony fanboy freind who owns 3 ps2s (actualoy ll my freidns own 2 or three of tehdamn things), and has a psp, and I showed all my psp fanboy freidns my ds and all it took to convert them was wi fi conect and mario kart, they said that psp doesnt have any ghood games right now and teh online is to complicated for them to bother setting it up, where as ds is so simple they loved it.

I actualy convinced one to trade his psp in for a ds so thats a good sign. I also Noticed that at all the used game stores in town, and the stores that rent games also, only have psp umd movies, no games at all. I think thatpeople are starting to realize the psp is pretty worthless as a games machine. On a related note, I just read in Game Informer magazine that Sony is going to redesign the PSP with a built in hard drive or something of the sort, so it looks like they are sticking with PSP as a Tech Device rather than a games system, so that should seal its fate I think.

I still can't wait to see what christmas sales are like though, if DS stomps psp and developers start losing money on making psp games then we should start to see a major shift. By The Way does anybody have the sales data for original Game Boy verses Game Gear? I thought they were pretty close for a while but could be wrong.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 06, 2005, 03:22:59 PM
Remember to take into consideration that the Mario Kart DS and Nintendogs games sold in the bundles aren't counted in software charts.

Also, here's an example of the Nintendogs effect, in France



The last little boost at the end is when Mario Kart came out.

I'm going to make a UK graph soon!

Oh yeah also, Nintendogs is in short supply over there and is going on ebay for $95 US.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 06, 2005, 08:26:15 PM
Why is that labelled "W36 W37 W38"...? "Week" is "semaine" in french.

Oh yeah also, Nintendogs is in short supply over there and is going on ebay for $95 US.

Keep in mind that it costs ~50$ in stores. Not as much of an increase as US based readers would think.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 07, 2005, 12:36:33 PM
I think Mario made that graph himself. Am I right?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 07, 2005, 04:36:16 PM
Nope, found it on another forum! But I have DS - PSP sales for the UK for every week up to now, which i'll make into something readable.

In other news, last weeks sales

1. PS2 Biohazard 4 - Capcom - 243,000
2. DS Animal Crossing - Nintendo - 130,000 (456,000)
3. PSP Monster Hunter Portable - Capcom - 114,000
4. DS Slime Mori Mori DQ 2 - Square Enix - 46,000
5. GBA Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon - Pokemon - 39,000 (209,000)
6. DS Dragonball Z - Bandai - 36,000
7. DS Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon - Pokemon - 35,000 (209,000)
8. GBA Rockman EXE 6 Graygar - Capcom - 33,000 (140,000)
9. GC SD Gundam Gachapon Wars - Bandai - 28,000
10. DS Nou wo kitaeru Otona no DS Training - Nintendo - 26,000 (812,000)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 07, 2005, 04:49:53 PM
RE4 deals AC a deathblow...uh oh...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 07, 2005, 05:12:29 PM
How much did the GCN version sell in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2005, 08:49:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
How much did the GCN version sell in Japan?
around 220,000

edit:  From dengeki.com

hardware for last week

DS is 169,000
PSP is 89,000

If DS sells around 120,000 next week it should have broken the 4million sold mark in Japan
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clintonmanual on December 07, 2005, 10:38:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
How much did the GCN version sell in Japan?
around 220,000

edit:  From dengeki.com

hardware for last week

DS is 169,000
PSP is 89,000

If DS sells around 120,000 next week it should have broken the 4million sold mark in Japan

oh wow, that just made my day.. I LOVE YOU DS!!!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 07, 2005, 11:21:58 PM
Also dengeki.com has Animal Crossing Wild World at 521,000, a lot higher than Media Create does.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 08, 2005, 04:31:17 AM
Oh man, Capcom is so stupid, I told them RE4 would never sell on the PS2.  IDIOTS!!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 08, 2005, 06:36:59 AM
RE4 just sold 220,000 units TOTAL on the GameCube? That's horrible!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 08, 2005, 06:55:16 AM
No, it sold over 500,000 as of August or something like that. I don't think it's faring too well on PS2 either.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JonLeung on December 08, 2005, 07:10:46 AM
They probably would've sold a lot more RE4 on the 'Cube if they didn't announce it for the PS2 shortly before release!  Dumb dumb dumb.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2005, 07:36:27 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
No, it sold over 500,000 as of August or something like that. I don't think it's faring too well on PS2 either.
If you look back he asked how much it sold in Japan not in the U.S.

As of right now RE4 is selling the opposite in the U.S as it is in Japan.

Japanese Hardware Sales - Media Create

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on December 08, 2005, 08:05:53 AM
Wow.  Impressive DS numbers.

And just so you guys know.  RE4 I believe sold more than a million worldwide on the GC.  While the PS2 version may be selling ok in Japan, in America it got outsold by a two-month old Mario Baseball in its launch month, and performed similarly elsewhere.  Unless it sells a million in Japan alone, it has no hope of achieving the GC version's sales, I'd wager.  I hope Capcom thought it was worth it.  (rant over)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on December 08, 2005, 12:08:48 PM
Maybe that was all the reasoning they needed. Japanese gamers and investors are in Sony's deep pockets. It certainly wasn't done for the fans, unless Capcom just enjoys a good game of musical consoles.

Anyone have a tally of the total GCN->PS2 porting disasters?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on December 08, 2005, 01:04:50 PM
US NPD Numbers for November

Game Boy Advance 892,438
GameCube 278,284
Nintendo DS 381,619
PlayStation 2 546,096
PlayStation Portable 359,772
Xbox 191,320
Xbox 360 332,121
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 08, 2005, 01:18:40 PM
Whoa, GBA! I KNEW they should've called the DS the Gameboy DS. I KNEW it. Time to rename!

Ouch for the PSP vs. DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 08, 2005, 01:22:41 PM
Everyone had the GBASP on sale day-after-Thanksgiving...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on December 08, 2005, 02:05:07 PM
Alright guys, NPD just put out a notice saying the numbers are over inflated and that they are NOT CORRECT. Not sure if this is across the board or just specific platforms. Hopefully they'll have the right numbers soon.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on December 08, 2005, 02:13:52 PM
The PSP has more life in it than I expected.

On a related note, in it's one week of October sales, GTA sold 158,400 units, and it sold 246,081 units in November, which means it's total is now at 404,481, and it's the biggest game on the PSP (which isn't really saying a lot).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: trip1eX on December 08, 2005, 03:19:04 PM
REggie posted some stats for the USA in his speech Monday....

"16. August to October handheld units sales (USA). GBA has 41%; DS has 31%; PSP has 28%."

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1825&Itemid=2
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on December 08, 2005, 08:49:40 PM
28% is actually more than I expected.

Funny how firefox is endlessly hyped as an IE killer when it only has about 10% market penetration, wheras the psp is widley hailed as a massive failure even though it's apparently taken 28% of the market from Nintendo.

edit: wait, sorry, those numbers are just for a single month. I'm an idiot.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 08, 2005, 08:58:30 PM
Wandering, it's also important to note that the comparison doesn't represent 'taken' marketshare. A lot of PSP owners probably never owned a GameBoy, therefore Nintendo lost no customers. The real question is what amount of PSP owners bought one INSTEAD of a DS. I think it'd be far less, considering the gaming factor.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 08, 2005, 11:24:46 PM
wandering: Firefox is hailed because it's better than IE.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 09, 2005, 06:01:48 PM
I find it quite sad that a basic rehash of GTA3 is selling so well on PSP. Shows how hurting the PSP is for good games that are not quick rehashes or ports.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 09, 2005, 06:50:33 PM
But it's not sad that a TRUE rehash of Super Mario 64 sold quite well on the NDS? Anyway, the PSP hasn't TAKEN any of the market share from Nintendo, if anything, it's created it's own market. I don't think the PSP has actually hurt any of Nintendo's handheld sales.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2005, 07:01:13 PM
"But it's not sad that a TRUE rehash of Super Mario 64 sold quite well on the NDS?"

The market is definitely tired of Mario.

<3  Mario Party 7 for the win.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on December 09, 2005, 10:16:59 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: joeposh
Alright guys, NPD just put out a notice saying the numbers are over inflated and that they are NOT CORRECT. Not sure if this is across the board or just specific platforms. Hopefully they'll have the right numbers soon.

Apparently the "mistake" numbers were a trap. They gave everyone a different set of "faulty" numbers, and then waited to see which ones showed up on the internet. The responsible parties have been shot, the leak is plugged, and there will be no more NPD numbers on the internet. For now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joeposh on December 10, 2005, 06:43:04 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Quote

Originally posted by: joeposh
Alright guys, NPD just put out a notice saying the numbers are over inflated and that they are NOT CORRECT. Not sure if this is across the board or just specific platforms. Hopefully they'll have the right numbers soon.

Apparently the "mistake" numbers were a trap. They gave everyone a different set of "faulty" numbers, and then waited to see which ones showed up on the internet. The responsible parties have been shot, the leak is plugged, and there will be no more NPD numbers on the internet. For now.


Yup, we all thought it was a little too good to be true when all the system numbers were released so quick. Smart move on NPD's part, but a royal screw job for the gaming public.

As for the guy that tried to turn the GTA/Mario 64 DS comaprison into an arguement over mario burn out, you're missing the point. It's simply hypocritical of people to rag on Liberity City for being glorified rehash when the best selling title thus far on the DS is just that. Granted it's good rehash, but rehash all the same.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on December 10, 2005, 08:26:02 AM
mmmmm... re-fried hash...

I'm suprised Sony didn't release the PSP in multiple colors this Christmas for a sales boost.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 10, 2005, 12:55:46 PM
I thought having multiple colors is teh tiku tiku tiku!  and Nintendo just getting people to rebuy!

Real gamers only like black. And maybe a touch of neon green.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 11, 2005, 09:19:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Real gamers only like black. And maybe a touch of neon green.


Yeah real gamers only play Xbox.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 11, 2005, 10:14:58 AM
Real gamers need an explaination that "black and neon green" refers to the XBox?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on December 11, 2005, 12:08:43 PM
real gamers suck on Bawls  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2005, 05:26:16 PM
NPD is here...

Xbox 360 = 326,000
PS2 = 531,000
Xbox = 197,000
GCN = 272,000
GBA = 690,000 (approx)
DS = 370,000 (approx)

Xbox 360 software sales = 1.3 million units, Tie ratio of almost 4:1.

Overall software sales are down 18% over November 2004. Console software sales are down 33%, even with the Xbox 360 sales contribution.

Console hardware sales are down 44% over last year. Ugh.

November Top 25 Software Sales

US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher

Rank Title Publisher
1 XBX STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
2 PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
3 360 CALL OF DUTY 2 Activision
4 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
5 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2 THQ
6 360 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts
7 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES Take 2 Interactive
8 PS2 TONY HAWK AMERICAN WASTELAND Activision
9 GCN MARIO PARTY 7 Nintendo
10 NDS MARIO KART Nintendo
11 PS2 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF Vivendi
12 PS2 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision
13 360 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts
14 PS2 SOUL CALIBUR III Namco
15 PS2 DRAGON BALL Z: BUDOKAI TENK Atari
16 PS2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts
17 PS2 BLITZ: THE LEAGUE Midway
18 PS2 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts
19 PS2 RATCHET: DEADLOCKED Sony
20 PSP STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts
21 360 PERFECT DARK ZERO LTD ED Microsoft
22 PS2 SOCOM 3: US NAVY SEALS Sony
23 PS2 GUN Activision
24 PS2 THE MATRIX: PATH OF NEO Atari
25 XBX CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision

Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.


PSP is a no show once again, SW BattleFront make the list 3 times & I think DQVIII sunk on a ship across the pacific from japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 13, 2005, 05:34:27 PM
Huh wow... the DS is outselling the X360. And the GBA is owning everything else.

So much for Nintendo's third pillar nonsense being a bunch of crap. Old fuddy duddy Nintendo never gets anything right.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 13, 2005, 07:47:31 PM
Hmm..any software numbers? And MKDS was just out for a few days since its November sales, right?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 13, 2005, 10:08:35 PM
Well, turns out MKDS was a MASSIVE FLOP! This was supposed to elevate DS sales to giant levels, but it hasn't done anything at all, and if Mario Kart can't, nothing will. No Nintendogs to be seen either, I guess they were just a fad. Pack your things Nintendo, handheld market is crumbling and there's no safe haven anymore! GBA sales are down 500,000 from last year, so DS has taken those away, nobody is falling for this "release lots of games" BS, the three pillars are crumbling all over each other, and Xbox 360 has crushed the fourth before it's even been built, look at that MASSIVE software tie ratio! Third parties would be stupid NOT to put all their games on Xbox 360 now, since everyone would buy them.

#1 Star Wars Battlefront 2? Jesus christ, that game is TERRIBLE, what is going on in this industry?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 13, 2005, 10:17:28 PM
Industry-wide trainwreck.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on December 14, 2005, 12:56:36 AM
I don't think the NPD is a good indicator of the market anymore.  When they got their numbers screwed up, I stumbled upon an article which said that they only got 53% of the market's numbers, and that they estimated what they didn't have (which includes... lesse.... WALMART and TOYS R US and AMAZON), which is by no means an accurate picture.

Mario Kart is actually outselling GTA, considering that they do not count the DS Mario Kart bundle as a sale of the game, and that is a pretty hot item that has sold as well as the Game itself, I reckon.

EDIT: Oh and the NPD has this disgusting habit of ranking things in terms of how much revenue is generated over how much the game actually sold.  Which means GBA and DS games have to sell 33% more just to even get ranked alongside Console/PSP titles.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2005, 01:35:28 AM
said the Sailor Man.

SPINNACH-GET
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 14, 2005, 04:41:34 AM
Well, if we can't go by NPD...

What are the odds that GCN is really number 2 world wide?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on December 14, 2005, 05:48:25 AM
Increasingly good with second-hand Xboxen flooding the market.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2005, 06:37:35 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Deguello
I don't think the NPD is a good indicator of the market anymore.  When they got their numbers screwed up, I stumbled upon an article which said that they only got 53% of the market's numbers, and that they estimated what they didn't have (which includes... lesse.... WALMART and TOYS R US and AMAZON), which is by no means an accurate picture.

Mario Kart is actually outselling GTA, considering that they do not count the DS Mario Kart bundle as a sale of the game, and that is a pretty hot item that has sold as well as the Game itself, I reckon.

EDIT: Oh and the NPD has this disgusting habit of ranking things in terms of how much revenue is generated over how much the game actually sold.  Which means GBA and DS games have to sell 33% more just to even get ranked alongside Console/PSP titles.
Just remember that alot, and I mean alot of sales came from online sales this year(Amazon.com, Toysrus.com, walmart.com, etc,etc.). Supposedly online sales were up 30% or something like that from last year, so expect NPD to become less and less accurate.

And also if MK DS & GTA LCS were to both sell 250,000, GTA would be ranked higher because GTA cost $50 while MK cost $30.

p.s. Deguello, I am agreeing with what you said and adding in my own say on the topic

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2005, 07:13:20 AM
updated #'s

TheStreet.com

TheStreet is reporting November sales:

819,733 GBA
535,000 PS2
369,012 DS
353,434 PSP
325,902 XBox 360

supposedly these #'s are correct and NPD's are off
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 14, 2005, 02:43:47 PM
But then why would Sony withhold the PSP numbers, if they're so close to the DS?

And yeah, I also read that NPD sales don't account for many stores like Toys R Us - they probably extrapolate and give as good an estimate as possible. That's not really fair, but that's life...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2005, 03:30:07 PM
Japanese software sale 5-12 Dec 2005

1 PS2 Rogue Galaxy ?238,000
2 DS Mario Kart DS ?219,000
3 PS2 Ryu Ga Gotoku : 135,000
4 DS Animal Crossing ?121,000 (577,000)
5 PS2 Momotaro ?65,000
6 DS Pokemon Dungeon ?64,000 (273,000)
7 PS2 Biohazard 4 ?64,000 (307,000)
8 PSP Monster Hunter PSP ?63,000 (177,000)
9 GBA Pokemon Dungeon ?62,000 (271,000)
10 DS Tamagotchi ?48,000 (473,000)

Animal Crossing is a freaking BEAST! Good start for Mario Kart too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2005, 04:57:07 PM
WHOA early reports are saying the DS sold over 300,000 last week. This has got to be breaking some kind of record, i've never EVER seen a system this strong.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 14, 2005, 05:03:18 PM
Wow, that's unbelievable... Do they have the Mario Kart DS bundle in Japan? And if so, were those counted in the software sales?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2005, 09:11:38 PM
Oh yeah, never mind that 577,000 number for Animal Crossing WW, Media Create sucks. Dengeki is better, they have it at 686,000, they also have Mario Kart slightly higher at 220,000. Mario Kart DS launch week sales are higher than MKSC and MKDD, so there's nothing to worry about there, Mario Kart has legs fueled by petrol.

Rough hardware numbers so far.

DS - 300,000
PSP - 100,000
Xbox 360 = 54,000
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 15, 2005, 05:42:08 AM
Anyone looking for an Xbox 360...but doesn't mind risking limited region-free gaming should look to Japan. You could sell the Japanese 360 when you get a US/EU system...but I don't think anyone would want to buy it. Nevermind, bad idea. I just wanted to point out that the 360 is already dead in the water in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 15, 2005, 06:13:28 AM
Maybe Microsoft should have made the US 360 region coded and had the JPN 360 unlocked...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 15, 2005, 10:22:40 AM
Maybe Microsoft shouldn't have tried to jumpstart the next generation just because they didn't like the position they were in.  So, not only did the Xbox 360 have a bad Japanese launch, but it sold less than the original Xbox did when it launched in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 15, 2005, 10:52:06 AM
Talk about diving into your grave before you even dig it out!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 15, 2005, 04:02:05 PM
Official Hardware #s for the week!

DS 299,328
PSP 86,403
PS2 45,893
Xbox360 43,970
GC 12,212
GBASP 10,456
GBM 8,326
GBA 396
Xbox 164

Absolute dominance.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2005, 05:13:36 PM
Nintendo DS = 299, 326
everything else = 207,820
-----------------------------------
difference = 91,506

total DS dominance?
I agree

Nintendo Inc.= 321,208
everyone else = 176,430
--------------------------------
difference = 144,778

Nintendo for the win
I think so
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on December 15, 2005, 05:24:15 PM
In one week??! Awesome.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris1 on December 15, 2005, 05:30:45 PM
awesome, wait, is that u.s or japan figures?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 15, 2005, 05:37:21 PM
Japanese. How come the PSP is doing so well (disregarding the DS)? IS it the deluxe pack or what?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 15, 2005, 05:41:31 PM
It's the UMD movies, of course!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 15, 2005, 06:12:36 PM
That's what you call being "PWN3D by teh Nittendo".
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 16, 2005, 06:09:32 AM
    Its good to see Nintendo rightfully on top once again.  It's just the way it ought to be.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on December 16, 2005, 07:09:26 AM
WOW. Those numbers are crazy!!!

This feel slike the good old days of Nintendo rulling the world.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 16, 2005, 09:23:57 AM
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Well, turns out MKDS was a MASSIVE FLOP! This was supposed to elevate DS sales to giant levels, but it hasn't done anything at all, and if Mario Kart can't, nothing will. No Nintendogs to be seen either, I guess they were just a fad. Pack your things Nintendo, handheld market is crumbling and there's no safe haven anymore! GBA sales are down 500,000 from last year, so DS has taken those away, nobody is falling for this "release lots of games" BS, the three pillars are crumbling all over each other, and Xbox 360 has crushed the fourth before it's even been built, look at that MASSIVE software tie ratio! Third parties would be stupid NOT to put all their games on Xbox 360 now, since everyone would buy them.


Ummm...mario, the DS continues to rip apart the PSP in hardware and software sales, not to mention that NPD ranks software sales by revenue not by numbers sold, relax the DS is winning the war handily.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on December 16, 2005, 11:46:19 AM
THE POWE OF REGGIE IS SHOWING!!! ALL FEAR THE POWER OF NINTENDO!!! lol, What happen to make this rappid rise of nintendo and fall of the other in sale #? reggie?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 16, 2005, 03:28:21 PM
Animals that live in houses.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 16, 2005, 03:52:57 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Avinash_Tyagi
Quote

Well, turns out MKDS was a MASSIVE FLOP! This was supposed to elevate DS sales to giant levels, but it hasn't done anything at all, and if Mario Kart can't, nothing will. No Nintendogs to be seen either, I guess they were just a fad. Pack your things Nintendo, handheld market is crumbling and there's no safe haven anymore! GBA sales are down 500,000 from last year, so DS has taken those away, nobody is falling for this "release lots of games" BS, the three pillars are crumbling all over each other, and Xbox 360 has crushed the fourth before it's even been built, look at that MASSIVE software tie ratio! Third parties would be stupid NOT to put all their games on Xbox 360 now, since everyone would buy them.


Ummm...mario, the DS continues to rip apart the PSP in hardware and software sales, not to mention that NPD ranks software sales by revenue not by numbers sold, relax the DS is winning the war handily.

I know, re-reading my post I probably shoudl have hinted at the sarcasm more.

Seriously though, DS is massive in every country but the US. What happened there?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MysticGohan24 on December 16, 2005, 05:02:23 PM
the psp being used as a port a video, I think people have a misconception of the psp being a portable dvd player, and thus have pwnd it or sold to to EB or something problably where majority of the sales are going considering the psp isn't selling software by a long shot. It's seeing the same fate as the ps2 did when it first came out. Most people just brought it to watch movies and nothing more, heh.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2005, 05:48:16 PM
more NPD #'s

Nintendogs - 236,822
MKDS - 222,408
GTA:LCS - 208,181
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 17, 2005, 06:20:14 PM
Whoa, wait, what?

Nintendogs selling better than Mario Kart? Is that for the month MK came out? Did it come out near the end? Am I missing something?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2005, 06:38:42 PM
is Nintendogs selling more really that big of a surprise?

at least MK was seling more than GTA, thats whats important
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 17, 2005, 07:06:11 PM
Well yeah, because it's not that new, you know.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 17, 2005, 07:09:40 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Whoa, wait, what?

Nintendogs selling better than Mario Kart? Is that for the month MK came out? Did it come out near the end? Am I missing something?
1. It was released on the 14th in North America, but it took a while to ship, so you probably have around 13-14 sales days, and it would have definitely sold more if given time.

2. THey also have the Mario Kart console bundle, and I don't believe the software in there is counted as part of the sales.

So even if it's only for the month, Mario Kart is still doing pretty well. I'd like to see this months numbers when they come out, though, to get a better indication.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 19, 2005, 08:11:58 AM
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2. THey also have the Mario Kart console bundle, and I don't believe the software in there is counted as part of the sales.
For the record, there's also not one, but two Nintendogs bundles.  I want the pink one.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2005, 08:14:29 AM
wouldn't that make four Nintendogs bundles? Or do they only pack in one of the three dog packs w/ the bundle?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 19, 2005, 09:47:25 AM
My guess is also that Nintendogs has more appeal than MKDS which is why it has stayed so strong on the charts for so long
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 19, 2005, 11:01:22 AM
I'm surprised Nintendogs sold PERIOD in America...not to say I'm not a proud owner.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cubist on December 19, 2005, 04:21:46 PM
The PSP is doing well in America because of the marketing blitz for it.  Everywhere you look, someone's got a PSP and claiming that it is the business right now.  Nintendo needs better marketing in the US.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2005, 07:02:05 PM
yeah, Nintendo should give us all a DS and pay us to play it in public, you can't beat in your face marketing
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 20, 2005, 01:53:22 AM
Blackn~1: I think they bundled specific versions of Nintendogs with each DS colour. Labrador with the blue one, Dachshund with the pink one. Or something like that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shecky on December 20, 2005, 05:43:25 PM
My understanding was that the Nintendogs bundles contained a version of the game that had the most popular breeds of all three games available from the onset.  (of course all the games are the same in the end anyways)  So that and the unique system color.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 21, 2005, 03:28:38 AM
   Shecky is right, the Nintendogs bundles came with the Nintendogs Best Friends version which started off with the most popular breeds of all three versions.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 21, 2005, 04:42:19 AM
First sales reports are trickling in from Japan and apparently the DS sold over 400,000 there last week, which rivals its LAUNCH week sales. This has to be breaking some kind of record!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 21, 2005, 02:59:31 PM
Media Create Dec 12 - 18

01. PS2 Tales of Abyss 405,000 (405,000)
02. NDS Animal Forest 184,000 (761,000)
03. NDS Mario Kart 146,000 (365,000)
04. GBA Final Fantasy 4 97,000 (97,000)
05. NDS Tamagotchi 92,000 (565,000)
06. GBA Pokemon Dungeon Red 85,000 (356,000)
07. NDS Pokemon Dungeon Blue 80,000 (354,000)
08. NDS Brain Training 57,000 (911,000)
09. PS2 Rogue Galaxy 51,000 (288,000)
10. NDS Gentle Brain Training 48,000 (773,000)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on December 21, 2005, 06:01:32 PM
Only two titles in the top ten that aren't on a Nintendo handheld... *sniff* It's so nice to see the NDS/GBA continue to do so well week after week in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrMojoRising on December 22, 2005, 01:20:31 AM
Animal Crossing is a monster...it'll be at a million in no time.  Speaking of a million, brain training is almost there!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 22, 2005, 03:01:51 AM
When you thought it coudln't get better...

DS 408,770
PSP 95,689
PS2 55,342
GBASP 19,098
GC 17,849
GBM 14,432
Xbox360 8,623 (LOL)
GBA 416
Xbox 182
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 22, 2005, 04:52:15 AM
400,000???  Is that FOR SERIOUS?   I wiped my eyes, and then wiped them again!  That puts Nintendo well over 1 million ahead of the PSP for the year, I believe.

Wow, the GameCube beat out the Xbox 360?  Granted, it rightfully should given what 360 has to offer so far, but that's still pretty awful for Microsoft.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 22, 2005, 04:58:46 AM
The Game Boy Micro is a complete failure.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 22, 2005, 05:10:50 AM
400,000!?!
in one week!?!
Thats it the war is over Sony can officially pack it in now

I mean seriously it beat every other system combined.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on December 22, 2005, 05:15:19 AM
Well, keep in mind its the holiday season...

wait, thats this week, so... could it be posible to see even bigger numbers than past week for the current one?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 22, 2005, 05:34:06 AM
Wow.  Congrats to Nintendo for this one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 22, 2005, 05:47:36 AM
Is there really such a thing as "the holiday season" in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2005, 05:53:20 AM
Lets see what Sony has to say about this.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 22, 2005, 05:57:19 AM
I think so, in nearly every Anime/Manga series they have christmas eps.

My guess is however is that its even less religious than it is in the west as most japanese are not Christian (I think its Shinto/Buddhist which are the dominant religions), thouh that's not saying much since I think the commercial aspects of christmas have totally superseded the religious aspect in even Christian dominat countries.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 22, 2005, 06:05:31 AM
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Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
The Game Boy Micro is a complete failure.


I think Nintendo has officially gone on the record that the Game Boy Micro was only supposed to last for 3-6 months, and after that it would have exhausted its market and they'd have made a couple bucks out of it.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 22, 2005, 06:15:25 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
When you thought it coudln't get better...

DS 408,770
PSP 95,689
PS2 55,342
GBASP 19,098
GC 17,849
GBM 14,432
Xbox360 8,623 (LOL)
GBA 416
Xbox 182
O_O


week 1 - 176,000
week 2 - 300,000
week 3 - 408,000
week 4 - if > 124,000

December = +1,000,000 DS sold in one month

Now that is very impressive, I would love to see someone compile a monthy Japanese Chart.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on December 22, 2005, 07:52:29 AM
DS 408,770
PSP 95,689

Now if only they could crack the nut that you can play outside over here like that...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 22, 2005, 08:38:26 AM
*sigh* If only those were US number as well The DS would be set for life.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on December 22, 2005, 09:08:31 AM
US numbers, specially psp, are very criptic, I have no idea if the psp managed to outsell the DS in overall sales this year.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 22, 2005, 09:13:01 AM
I believe that Nintendo has maintained that in the US, the DS has outsold the PSP almost continually (maybe a couple months in the spring when it didn't?) , all the way up to the November confusion on real sales numbers.

Still, given that the NPD doesn't include Bundle sales and the DS is offered in bundles while the PSP isn't, I don't think its much of a stretch to wonder if the DS has outsold the PSP even into November and December. The Nintendogs Bundles and Mario Kart Bundles alone, whoooey!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on December 22, 2005, 09:18:21 AM
I think if the PSP outsold the DS, Sony would be shouting it on the street corner.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 22, 2005, 09:59:37 AM
last I heard, as of the end of november the DS enjoyed a lead of about 200,000 over the PSP in the US.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shecky on December 22, 2005, 01:25:04 PM
Well according to Sony's Phil Harrison ....

"Moving on to the PSP, how do you think it's gone now we're three months on from launch? What do you make of the reports Nintendo DS is outselling it?

Well that's factually incorrect. PlayStation Portable has been the fastest-selling machine to ten million units. We are bringing in plane-loads of PSPs into Europe and the US as we speak in order to satisfy the demand in the run-up to Christmas, and if you talk to retail they'll tell you it's the hottest-selling piece of hardware right now - by far and away the number one demanded product in stores this Christmas."

(Source)

Note the PR speak is layed on heavy in his interview... really HEAVY
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 22, 2005, 01:44:12 PM
10 million units.... in STUPID WORLD.

AHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 22, 2005, 02:07:41 PM
Errr... at what point does this count as false advertisment?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 22, 2005, 02:14:28 PM
Pretty much what it comes down to in the US vs Japan sales is that DS has replaced GBA in Japan but not in the US. HEY AMERICANS, DS PLAYS GBA GAMES!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on December 22, 2005, 02:19:05 PM
Meh. Once the word FINALLY gets around here in the USA that the PSP can't play DVDs and that Sony won't let you burn UMDs, the PSP will be dropped like a hot potato in favor of the iPod video.

EDIT: And did anyone else notice I almost always begin a reply to a topic with 'Bah' or 'Meh'?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 22, 2005, 02:24:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
I believe that Nintendo has maintained that in the US, the DS has outsold the PSP almost continually (maybe a couple months in the spring when it didn't?) , all the way up to the November confusion on real sales numbers.

Still, given that the NPD doesn't include Bundle sales and the DS is offered in bundles while the PSP isn't, I don't think its much of a stretch to wonder if the DS has outsold the PSP even into November and December. The Nintendogs Bundles and Mario Kart Bundles alone, whoooey!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
And Sony can withhold sales numbers AND they don't count certain stores like Toys R Us so I think they extrapolate to estimate.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2005, 05:26:34 PM
It's funny, because the Xbox 360 is actually the "must have" number one piece of hardware. Just check eBay.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 22, 2005, 07:58:04 PM
Ebay only shows that the supplyemand ratio for the X360 is lower than the PS's. The PSP sold more than the X360 at launch, mostly because it had enough avalable for everyone.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 23, 2005, 02:27:29 AM
      I work one day a week at Gamestop (I have a real job too, heh) and if the impressions I get from people are any indication of the DS to PSP sales here in the US then :

1.) To the uninformed the PSP is still barely maintaining it's "Oh wow, gotta have it to be cool." status but has decreased largely since its released.

2.) To the informed and those who own a psp it's either "$250.00! AND I have to buy games and expensive UMD's, AND a memory stick? The DS is only $130.00 new and it has all these sweet games coming out, 'purchases ds'....

...or ,for those who already own a PSP, "Yeah the PSP is great 'this justifies the purchase', but I don't really play it much anymore, it was cool at first but im just waiting for some better games to come out... 'sites some sweet umd movie'".  I then tell them how sweet the DS is and about all its functionality and they are usually surprised but don't totally buy into it because they have probably invested $500.00 in a psp and they have to stick to their guns.

 This is a hugh shift compared to what the average new/uninformed gamer thought during the psp launch window. Something like "PSP is the OwnZorz! The graphics are awesome on a hand-held! DS, was that?!?!"  Heh.

Back to topic, it seems according to my observations that DS is outselling PSP by a good margin, especially in the last few months... though is falling short of complete domination like in Japan.

Anyways, I think the DS sales here in the States will somewhat mirror thise in Japan eventually (though maybe not that hugh) It's just taking longer for the PSP buzz to wear off here.    
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 23, 2005, 07:49:17 PM
Ack! I almost bought a PSP tonight. I got my Christmas bonus, and was looking for an Xbox 360 to sell on eBay (quick way to make $100 or so), but of course there were none in sight. Anyway, then I saw the PSP and thought, "ah what the Hell, it's not really like I have to pay for it (I got a SWEET bonus)...", but then I came to my senses and bought Animal Crossing: Wild World, and Tony Hawk's American Sk8land instead. What the Hell was I thinking?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 23, 2005, 07:55:23 PM
   lol.... at that time a original NES system should have flown out of nowhere and smacked you upside the head.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 24, 2005, 10:12:52 AM
I lol'd when all of the Ninty haters who would bash DS and say the PSP was going to take away the only thing Nintendo was good at, just suddenly stoped talking about the Handheld war once they saw the DS dominate in all countries.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on December 24, 2005, 12:49:11 PM
I still try to rub that fact in their faces as much as I can ^_^
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 24, 2005, 04:17:25 PM
its funny because I have so many ps fanboy friends who wre laughing at me for getting a ds, bragging about the psps out selling it then after showing them the sales numbers AND letting them play Mario kart ds I had them wanting a ds and every single one of them told me theonly thing they are disapointed in so far is the games, but these guys bought PS1 over 64 and Ps2 over gc and psp over ds and will likeley stick to thier system, no big deal but sucks for me cuz I dont get ps crap and we dotn get to play games together much.

But I had one friends considering trading his psp for a ds and some games, and a couple otehrs consdiering getting one just for mario kart so theres still hope. Plus when we talked revolution they were more interested in it than GC and addmitted ps3 might be too uninteresting and they migth geta rev first and a ps3 latter on. Hopefully they DO geta rev first and pass altogether on ps3. I am not a fanboy but I HATE Playstation and sony noe more than ever and realyl wish tehy woudl just throw in the towel.

ON TOPIC: I can't wait to see the holiday numbers and get a real indication of weather or not PSP will even be around in a couple years.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 24, 2005, 04:33:32 PM
It'll be more interesting to see DS games sales VS. PSP game sales VS. UMD sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2005, 04:58:51 PM
UMD-------------------------|
PSP------|
DS----------------------|
PSPorn------------------------------|

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on December 24, 2005, 05:52:40 PM
This too is a little off topic, but I also have a friend who's a big fan of Sony but also a real technology lover. He got the DS when it first came out but got bored with and when the PSP came out, he traded in his DS and got a PSP. He thought it was great for awhile. Sometimes we'd argue over the merits of each system and his stance was that the PSP sucks and the DS really sucks. He said that both didn't really have good games but at least with the PSP you can access the internet or download Nintendo emulators. After that time, Kirby, Meteos, Nintendogs, and Advance Wars starting coming out. I bought a DS and another friend of mine bought one as well. We'd get together and play games against one another. We've also both got Mario Kart and play that. We also ask my friend if he's going to get a DS again and join us. He always says if he had money, he would. We let him play the games and he agrees now that the DS has some great games. On a second note, he too is interested in the Nintendo Revolution. He wants to get the PS3 and then the Revolution. He doesn't care about the 360. Frankly, I think Nintendo's strategy is working as a second console. Another friend of mine has the XBOX 360 and he's interested in the Revolution. He doesn't care about the PS3. So, Nintendo going on a different path seems to be working and has got people interested in them again.

Back on topic: WooHoo! Almost 1,000,000 DS sold in a month! That's fantastic. It means more revenue for Nintendo, more people developing for the DS and more games for me!(Most important). It's great to see Nintendo dominating after all those articles talking up the supposed superiority of the PSP.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 25, 2005, 05:10:16 AM
when my friends woudl argue how PS woudl KILL DS they would alwasy say it has better graphics and can wacth movies and its playstation. But I always had faith and woudl pointout that Nintendo has beat out bigger handhelds before. Its no surprise that teh DS canc ompete with the PSP cz graphcis arent tdifferent enough to matter and DS has mostly same features as psp.


SOnys arrogance was if they had enough bonus crap people would get it anyways. But 4 color 8bit GC out sold ful color 16 bit Linx and full color 8 bit Game gear AND Full color 16 bit Turbo Express and full color 16bit Neo Geo Pocket. Then Game Boy Color camein and finsihed off teh copetition which was by that time just wonderswan, and GBA murdered the N-Gage and DS VS PSP is just history repeating itself.

I just hope that if DS continues to do well and Revolution continues to gain support that Nintendo will actualy maek enough money to compete better by making more good games, hopefully more games in general cuuz GC was lacking somewhat bt I realy want them to put more money into making thier games better also.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 25, 2005, 08:20:17 PM
Iwata says "5.44 million DS's have been sold to date in Japan"

Google Translation
Quote

Nintendo Co. president: Portable game machine, domestic sale of DS 500 ten thousand unit breaking (2)
The December 26, 2005 00:47 EST -- President Satoru Nintendo Co. Iwata on the 26th, interviewed inside capital, made that the number of domestic of portable type game machine " ?????? DS " of the same company sales front weekend had reached 544 ten thousand units with sum total since selling clear.


Translated source / Original source
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 25, 2005, 08:40:48 PM
That means it sold about 800,000 in Japan last week... holy freakin crap. Either that, or the extra sales are ones that sales charts miss out on, since they don't cover 100% of stores.

What's the total userbase of the GameCube there? I think DS has passed it, or at least is about to.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 25, 2005, 09:00:29 PM
Counting the days till Thursday and the next Japanese numbers!

What, don't look at me like that... I do have better things to do
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 25, 2005, 09:22:37 PM
Actually, because it will be a New Year holiday over there, we wont get the numbers then, but two sets of numbers the week after.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on December 26, 2005, 08:42:26 PM
Ign also has an article on this. They also talk about what games Nintendo plans to lauch in the future. The Ign article also estimates that the DS managed to sell nearly half a million units last week alone.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/678/678205p1.html
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 26, 2005, 09:23:32 PM
Such a beautiful image
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 27, 2005, 10:51:14 AM
Love the image I got a Famicom GameBoy Micro for xmas. Yes, it is very much awesome and spiffy! I'm finishing Golden Sun 2 on it, such a nice screen.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 27, 2005, 01:33:22 PM
>>Iwata states that the DS now holds the record for the fastest system ever to reach five million units sold in Japan<<


Yeah lets throw that in Sonys face! Has anyone heard if those braimn training games are still coming to AMerica? also when is Elctroplankton supposed to be released I am still waiting for that game.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 27, 2005, 02:34:39 PM
The Brain Training games are on their way to the States.

Electroplankton will be available at online retailers as soon as January 9.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 27, 2005, 03:37:13 PM
then I might wanna preorder mine soon cuz something tells me its gonna be a rare item to find.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 27, 2005, 03:57:54 PM
HOP TO IT
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on December 27, 2005, 11:10:08 PM
yeah elecktroplankton is definately one that is turning heads, i wonder is it gonna be regular price?  or will we find this game at an ultra low price.  I swear i was l-----l  <------this close to importing elecktroplanton but imported jam with the band.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 28, 2005, 02:34:42 AM
OMG!!! SALES! YES

Media Create 19th - 25th December

1. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II 727,591 (727,591)
2. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 416,132 (1,177,108)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS 302,742 (667,799)
4. PS2 Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3 216,966 (216,966)
5. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force 157,786 (511,704)
6. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red Rescue Force 156,430 (512,054)
7. NDS Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi 156,181 (721,104)
8. PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence 103,894 (103,894)
9. NGC Mario Party 7 Gamecube Nintendo 100,130 (319,650)
10. NDS Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju no Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training 93,240 (1,004,681)

Brain Training breaks a million! Animal Crossing breaks a million! Pokemon both versions combined break a million! Pretty much HUGE sales all round, Mario Kart and Animal Crossing MORE THAN DOUBLING their sales from last week, can't wait for the hardware numbers.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 28, 2005, 02:50:40 AM
=OOOOOOOOO
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 28, 2005, 03:09:49 AM
In a MASSIVE week like this, games outside the top 10 actually sell decently! So here's an entire top 30 list, Nintendo games in bold.

1. Kingdom Hearts II
2. Animal Crossing: Wild World
3. Mario Kart DS
4. Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3
5. Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force
6. Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red Rescue Force
7. Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi
8. Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence
9.  Mario Party 7 Gamecube Nintendo
10. Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju no Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training
11. Gentle Brain Training
12. Dragonball Z
13. Rockman EXE 6
14. Slime Mori Mori 2
15. Tales of the Abyss
16. Naruto 4 GC
17. Daredemo Asobi Taisen
18. Mushi King DS
19. Rockman EXE 6
20. Monster Hunter Portable
21. Pokemon Torouze
22. Katamari PSP
23. Prince of Tennis
24. Nintendogs
25. Ryu Ga Gotoku
26. Nintendogs
27. Nintendogs
28. Final Fantasy IV
29. Ratchet & Clank
30. Rogue Galaxy

Also, if I take the sales increase percentage of Animal Crossing and Mario Kart and attribute the same increase to the hardware sales, Nintendo DS sales will be exactly 886042.14647855866587254318046443.

HOWEVER, it's very possible that most of the games sold this week were to people who already own DS's and for some crazy reason hadn't picked up Mario Kart or Animal Crossing yet, so i'll make my estimate 599,904.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on December 28, 2005, 07:01:37 AM
I say 478,243 Bob
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Rellik on December 28, 2005, 07:42:43 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

8. NDS Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence 103,894 (103,894)



?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 28, 2005, 07:45:46 AM
Edited for stupidity.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on December 28, 2005, 08:17:23 AM
Subsistence didn't do so well for a holiday launch. I'm not sure why. Full price for a year-old game with upgrades--it's gotta be solid gold!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 28, 2005, 08:27:47 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Renny
Subsistence didn't do so well for a holiday launch. I'm not sure why. Full price for a year-old game with upgrades--it's gotta be solid gold!
Especially considering it scored a 39/40 in Famitsu.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2005, 08:35:56 AM


01. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II 727.591 727.591 (Square Enix)
02. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 416.132 1.177.108 (Nintendo)
03. NDS Mario Kart DS 302.742 667.799 (Nintendo)

04. PS2 Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3 216.966 216.966 (Bandai)
05. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force 157.786 511.704 (Nintendo)
06. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red Rescue Force 156.430 512.054 (Nintendo)
07. NDS Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi 156.181 721.104 (Bandai)

08. PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence 103.894 103.894 (Konami)
09. NGC Mario Party 7 100.130 319.650 (Nintendo)
10. NDS Brain Training 93.240 1.004.681 (Nintendo)
11. NDS Gentle Brain Training (Nintendo)
12. NDS Dragonball Z (Bandai)
13. GBA Rockman EXE 6 (Capcom)
14. NDS Slime Mori Mori 2 (Square Enix)

15. PS2 Tales of the Abyss (Namco)
16. NGC Naruto 4 GC (Tommy)
17. NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo)
18. NDS Mushi King DS (Sega)
19. GBA Rockman EXE 6 (Capcom)

20. PSP Monster Hunter Portable (Capcom)
21. NDS Pokemon Torouze (Nintendo)
22. PSP Katamari PSP (Namco)
23. PS2 Prince of Tennis (Konami)
24. NDS Nintendogs: Shiba (Nintendo)
25. PS2 Ryu Ga Gotoku (Sega)
26. NDS Nintendogs: Dachshund (Nintendo)
27. NDS Nintendogs: Chihuahua (Nintendo)
28. GBA Final Fantasy IV (Square Enix)

29. PS2 Ratchet & Clank (Sony)
30. PS2 Rogue Galaxy (Square Enix)

20 of the Top 30 are on Nintendo systems
14 of those 20 are on the DS
12 of the Top 30 are published by Nintendo



I thought this post was very appropriate and this next picture very funny

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 28, 2005, 12:43:47 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Rellik
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

8. NDS Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence 103,894 (103,894)



?

Sorry, fixed. It was 2am and I was tired.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 28, 2005, 01:06:21 PM
I think gamefront is saying DS sales were 604,000 for last week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 28, 2005, 01:16:58 PM
If so

1) That is massive, record breaking stuff.

2) I should be a market analyst
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2005, 06:21:35 PM
UK Charts enjoy

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on December 28, 2005, 07:01:10 PM
Sonic Heroes beat out Mario Kart DS and Nintendogs... wow, just wow.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 28, 2005, 07:09:35 PM
Wow, that's a HORRIBLE chart, the UK is doomed, how could they buy that filth? I suppose every country buys crappy games, but that's unprecendented. Mario Kart and Nintendogs are both sold in bundles though so they could be (most definately are) much higher up in reality. Nintendo needs to advertise better over there, even in Australia they have a game in the top 10.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 28, 2005, 07:20:41 PM
but wa Europe Segas domain in the old days, makes sense they woud out sell Nintendo there then.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2005, 07:23:32 PM
wasn't it rumored that Nintendogs & MK were both on virtual sold out status for the last couple of weeks?

or was that just the bundles? or am I just remembering false facts?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 28, 2005, 07:29:09 PM
Not sure about Mario Kart, but Nintendogs has been sold out in a few (possibly all) European countries, with copies going for over $100 US on ebay over there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 29, 2005, 01:00:47 AM
DS 597,000
PSP 161,000
PS2 97,000
GC 36,000
SP 35,000
GBM 19,000
360 5,000

Semi-official Media Create hardware numbers!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2005, 07:17:15 AM
where is the Xbox?
was it finally pulled off the shelf?
or did they just combine Xbox & Xbox 360 since the #'s would change all that much?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 29, 2005, 08:11:52 AM
These numbers look to be rounded to the nearest thousand, which would put Xbox at 0.  (Same with the original GBA.)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 29, 2005, 09:24:07 AM
Heh, the DS still manages to outsell the PSP by almost 4 to 1
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 29, 2005, 02:51:15 PM
Official numbers!

DS - 597,628
PSP - 161,332
PS2 - 97,475
GC - 36,646
GBASP - 35,764
GBM - 19,261
Xbox360 - 5,674
GBA - 906
Xbox - 141

I was off on my DS prediction by about 2000, i'll do better next time!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 29, 2005, 06:49:37 PM
Can someone update the YTD sales then...I'm mentally retarded, so I can't. Nintendo's gotta be up by at least 2 million against Sony in Japan now.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 29, 2005, 07:27:50 PM
YTD / LTD
DS - 3,761,175 / 5,256,771
PSP - 2,089,969 / 2,572,221
DS Lead - 1,671,206 / 2,684,550
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2005, 07:40:44 PM
But Iwata said DS was at 5.44 million
I can't believe he would lie to us like that
I'm never trusting Nintendo again!!

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 30, 2005, 04:47:22 AM
Media Create doesn't get EVERY sale.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 30, 2005, 06:59:18 AM
I love sarcasm with a little whipped cream and a cherry...Nah, make that TWO cherries!

Right now I'm more interested in how the DS did over here in Moronville...I keep hearing reports of AC and Mario Kart being sold out everywhere and that's pretty encouraging...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 30, 2005, 07:38:56 AM
Quote

But Iwata said DS was at 5.44 million


Relax dude, most of these third party reporting firms don't count every sale by every store, for example, NPD in the states doesn't ask for Wal-Mart's numbers, instead it estimates the sales at Walmart, Media-Create also likely misses some sales for similar reasons.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2005, 08:58:42 AM
I really gotta remember to add a sarcasm tag to my post sometimes.

Atleast Bill likes it with 2 cherries

Martini to you Bill, cheers to the New Year!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 30, 2005, 01:42:01 PM
I keep hearing about Animal Crossing being sold out over in the US too, but I have a feeling that's more likely because Nintendo screwed up and didn't ship enough.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on December 30, 2005, 04:07:14 PM
now that you mention it I havent seen that game anywhere and I dont see nintenodogs either anymore, damn I should have gotten it sooner.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 30, 2005, 04:42:27 PM
Heh...Nintendo sold 107 times as many DS systems as MS sold XBox 360s last week in Japan. That's pretty amazing...I can't believe MS actually sold that many systems!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 30, 2005, 04:49:25 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: MarioI keep hearing about Animal Crossing being sold out over in the US too,


I haven't been able to find the game in any stores.... Been looking around alot too. I guess I'll have to buy it online.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on December 30, 2005, 06:18:13 PM
I was told early January for the next AC shipment. Supposebly 15,000 produced.... Let's pretend it was 15,000 shipped to EBGames. That's pretty dire. Whatever the real numbers, it's obvious they produced well below the demand. The holiday season, and the Cube version was fairly popular. 2+2=Why?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 30, 2005, 08:50:19 PM
I remember seeing it when it first came out and balked at buying it. Now it is nowhere to be seen in my area.

On a seperate note it seems that most Nintendo products were popular this season, especially in Wal-Mart out of the 4 Wal-Marts in my area only one has any Nintendo accessories and the big titles are sold out. (With the exception of Mario Kart which I think they made too many, relitivly to Animal crossing)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darkheart on December 31, 2005, 01:06:55 PM
Well before I quit Toys R us since its launch, we recieved 3 shipments of Animal Crossing, all 3 sold out.  Same with  the Xbox 360's we actually did get a second shipment of them after launch but was told only to bundle them for 800 dollars by corporate.  As far as Nintendogs go, we had a good supply of all 3 versions.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 02, 2006, 03:34:18 AM
well i did some shopping aroudn and K-mart still has Nintendogs so tehres till time I guess, but everybody else was sold out and Animal Crossing isnt anywhere but I havent decided if I want it yet ornot, never played teh original so am still debating on this one.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 02, 2006, 04:50:28 AM
It's English-heavy, I'm not sure you'd like it.

EDIT: Haha, read the first page of this thread.  PSP.  Ahead.  Bah!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on January 03, 2006, 01:24:29 PM
Time to break out the party hats, guys...

Nintendo: DS Sales Top 10 Million
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on January 03, 2006, 01:50:58 PM
Eh, that's very strange. According to the Corporate Information at Nintendo of America, the worldwide count is 8.83 as of 12/16/2005. Were 1.17 million units sold since then? That's quite an achievement.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 03, 2006, 02:30:11 PM
12 Dec - 18 Dec 408,770
19 Dec - 25 Dec 597,628

That's over 1 million in Japan alone, there could easily have been another .17 million sold around the world too , in fact I think it's a bit over 10 million now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 03, 2006, 02:44:09 PM
Quote

REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 3, 2006 – Nintendo's 15 years of unsurpassed leadership in portable video gaming continued unabated through the 2005 holiday season. Sales figures show that Nintendo's dual-screened Nintendo DS™, fueled by hit software and new global Wi-Fi capability, has sold approximately 4 million units to date in North America alone. Combined with Game Boy® Advance, the world's most popular portable video game line, Nintendo now enjoys a combined U.S. market share of 78 percent.


Yep, that's 4 million in the US alone. They've sold over 5.5 million in Japan, so that's 9.55 million. That isn't even counting Europe! I'd estimate it's around 12 million. It's at LEAST 1 million, since they announced they'd sold 1 million Nintendogs in Europe, and I highly doubt Nintendogs has more than a 50% tie ratio with the system, so it's probably over 12 million.

For comparison PSP has sold 2.7 million in the US as of December 1, 2.5 million in Japan up til now. That's just over 5 million, and if i'm going to use 2 million for DS in Europe, I'll say PSP has done 1.5 million in Europe. (all I  know about over there is that DS > PSP). Sooo..

DS - 12 million (just over)
PSP - 7 million (just under)

Quote

Nintendo also reports U.S. sales of Mario Kart® DS, released on Nov. 14 and featuring live, global Wi-Fi competition, has topped the 1 million mark in just seven weeks. And Nintendogs™, made for Nintendo DS, has surpassed sales of 1.5 million units since its U.S. launch in August.

That is quite big! Perhaps Nintendo DS is coming back in the US after all, I can't wait for December NPD numbers. That would mean Mario Kart DS sold over 700,000, and Nintendogs over 600,000. They didn't mention Animal Crossing in the press release, probably because they destroyed its sales by not shipping enough.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 03, 2006, 03:52:11 PM
And the legacy lives on... no Mario Kart has ever sold less than 2 million worldwide.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 03, 2006, 04:58:31 PM
This just in, the DS is completely obliterating the PSP all over the world. It's kinda like an "F You" from Nintendo in retaliation to the PS2's dominance.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 03, 2006, 05:43:37 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
And the legacy lives on... no Mario Kart has ever sold less than 2 million worldwide.



Just what I was about to say! Except it's in North America. Double Dash was within 100,000 by the summer, so it's probably there by now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 03, 2006, 06:04:37 PM
Eff You kirby killer!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 03, 2006, 06:07:46 PM
Did some Math

Nintendo DS

Japan - 5.44 million
USA - 4 million
Europe - 3 million (sauce)
Australia - .16 million

Total = 12.6 million

PSP

Japan - 2.5 million
USA - 2.7 million
Europe 1.5 million (guess)
Australia .10 million

Total - 6.8 million  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 04, 2006, 04:35:18 AM
so is that  a bigger lead over psp than Ps2 had over GC? If so it shouldnt take long before publishers fins out its not a profitable system to release games on and start dropping it like they did the Cube.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toruresu on January 04, 2006, 04:53:26 AM
People, its time we go outside and play our DS in public! Those who own a DS will follow, and those who own a PSP will show us their SNES roms (lol).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 04, 2006, 07:28:01 AM
The end of the PSP is in sight
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 04, 2006, 07:59:02 AM
Sony is claiming that through mid december its PSP numbers were at 3.2 million, but the fact that its not releasing the full December numbers makes me think that it knows they were not as good as the DS's december sales.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 04, 2006, 08:00:49 AM
That would be where Sony makes it next mistake, use PS3 development as PSP leverage.

You want to make games for the unprecidented victor in the "Next-Gen HD Multipurpose Livingroom Console Wars" or in other words the PS3, then you have to support the PSP first and continue to support the PSP during. No PSP support = no PS3 access!!!

thats when 3rd parties start to see the arrogance and jump ship back to Nintendo, then all is at peace again the world of gamesvideo
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2006, 08:30:54 AM
They'll jump to MS if they want lower restrictions, at least for this gen. Nintendo had a similar "promote our crap if you want to work with us" policy for Square and connectivity.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 04, 2006, 12:06:51 PM
Yeah...Square had interest in making Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, so Nintendo let them, under the condition that they develop a game for GameCube.  Which, fair enough.  But Nintendo also forced them to push their connectivity feature, ultimately causing FF:CC to cost near 500 bucks to fully enjoy at the time (link cables, GBAs).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 04, 2006, 01:10:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede

ultimately causing FF:CC to cost near 500 bucks to fully enjoy at the time (link cables, GBAs).
Honestly, I don't buy it. GBAs are so prevailent its not that hard to find another friend or three with a gba that would like to play or will let you borrow. And, honestly, new and used GBAs are dirt cheap on eBay if you or your family needs them. (Besides, you know, GBAs play games too And you don't have to take my word that it has really good games, ask anyone else! ) You can find cheap used first/third party connector cables at EB/GameStop.

Last I heard we are getting FF:CC for the DS and Revolution so obviously someone besides my friends really liked it and had no problems finding the nessary gear. It's such a fun game and you still have GCN Four Swords ;P
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 04, 2006, 01:21:40 PM
Yeah, indeed.

FFCC was really a game meant for GBA players w/ GameCubes and GBA-owning friends, not necessarily for GameCube players w/ GBAs.  The GBA audience is clearly bigger than GameCube's, so it's evident which audience would have an easier time taking advantage of the game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2006, 01:26:37 PM
"Honestly, I don't buy it. GBAs are so prevailent its not that hard to find another friend or three with a gba that would like to play or will let you borrow. And, honestly, new and used GBAs are dirt cheap on eBay if you or your family needs them."

GBAs are easy to find but the cords aren't.  GBA owning friends typically didn't own them nor did they really want to buy them for one and later two games.  If Nintendo had the foresight to include the link cable with every GBA then connectivity would have done better.

I personally just found Crystal Chronicles to be a really crummy game, hardware requirements or not.  Nintendo totally got the raw deal on that one.  GBA support for a crappy game that's FF in name only.  I think the multiplayer nature of the game hurt it's appeal too.  Sure I have friends with GBAs and even cables but how often are they all at my house?  I only managed to play a four player game ONCE.  We all have different schedules and neither of us live within walking distance of each other.  It took careful planning to play that game and in the end we didn't find it all that great.  I've had other times with four GBA owners at my house but they don't bring their GBAs and especially not their cables unless I think to specifically tell them too.  It's a multiplayer focused game with no pick-and-play flexiblily.  What a stupid idea.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 04, 2006, 01:35:03 PM
What RPG do you know that has any pick-and-play flexibility?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2006, 01:42:40 PM
"What RPG do you know that has any pick-and-play flexibility?"

None but FF: CC isn't really an RPG.  It's more of a hack 'n' slash with some RPG elements.

The point is that a multiplayer game should be designed for pick up and play.  Most people don't have four gamers living in the same house.  The design of good multiplayer mode is that when people are over you can just load the game up on a whim and have some fun.  The link cable requirement killed that for FF: CC.  If friends are over for whatever reason and someone sees SSB or Mario Kart on the shelves and says "hey let's play" we can play right away.  With FF: CC in order to have that spontaneous play session at least three of the people visiting had to have the foresight to bring both a GBA AND link cables.  That's not going to happen too often.

I think Crystal Chronicles' design better fits online play.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 04, 2006, 02:03:31 PM
You're right about the online part, which is why I can't wait for the online-confirmed DS version.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2006, 03:33:55 PM
Let's not get into the supposed high-price requirement for FF:CC.

Let's look at this:
FF:CC Game (new) $50.
4xGBA $240 (at $60 each).
4XCable $60 (at $25 each).
1 GCN $100
TV $150
$600 Total.

4xMario Kart DS $140 ($35 each)
4xDS $520 (at $130 each)
4xWireless Router $120 (at $30 each)
4xDSL for one year $720 (at $15/month)
$1,500 Total.

4xPerfect Dark Zero $200 (at $50 each)
4xXBox 360 $1,600 (at $400 each)
4xDSL for one year $720 (at $15/month)
4xRouter $80 (at $20 each)
4xTV $600 (at $150 each)
$3,200 Total.

Man, multi-player gaming is expensive.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 04, 2006, 04:02:01 PM
Well...yeah, you got me.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 04, 2006, 04:13:10 PM
Need we pull out the penny arcade strip on the subject again?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 04, 2006, 06:14:57 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
Let's not get into the supposed high-price requirement for FF:CC.

Let's look at this:
FF:CC Game (new) $50.
4xGBA $240 (at $60 each).
4XCable $60 (at $25 each).
1 GCN $100
TV $150
$600 Total.

GBA cable for $25? where did you buy yours? mine cost $10
and this example is the only one that could cost 1 person all of that money.

Quote

4xMario Kart DS $140 ($35 each)
4xDS $520 (at $130 each)
4xWireless Router $120 (at $30 each)
4xDSL for one year $720 (at $15/month)
$1,500 Total.

4xPerfect Dark Zero $200 (at $50 each)
4xXBox 360 $1,600 (at $400 each)
4xDSL for one year $720 (at $15/month)
4xRouter $80 (at $20 each)
4xTV $600 (at $150 each)
$3,200 Total.

Man, multi-player gaming is expensive.

both of these you need to divide by 4 when it comes to cost, cause that four completely unrelated people at four very different locations(the benefit of the internet)

MK = $375 per person
PD0 = $800 per person
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2006, 06:17:57 PM
Whoops, that GBA cable was figured at $15 (and the price really reflects that...)

If we're going to cut MKDS and PD0 into four, we should cut FF:CC into four ($150 each).
Sure, one person isn't going to buy all the stuff for MKDS or PD0, but one person doesn't have to buy all the stuff for FF:CC either.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 04, 2006, 06:32:58 PM
they do if they want thier non-gaming(read: not hardcore) friends to come over and play.

Just like when you want someone to come over and play SSBM, do you expect them to buy their own controllers and bring them over(assuming they don't own a GC)?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 04, 2006, 06:57:11 PM
You also have to take into account the Xbox Live prescription fee..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2006, 08:01:33 PM
MKDS and PD0 can be played with less time investment because you don't need to invite people over, set things up, etc, you just choose connect and play with other people on the net.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 05, 2006, 01:08:52 AM
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?Feed=AP&Date=20060105&ID=5393359

13 million DS sold worldwide, 3.5 million in Europe.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 05, 2006, 02:25:19 AM
GOOD

I was really scared that only a million were sold in Europe last year .
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 05, 2006, 02:27:59 AM
Nintendo DS in Japan = COMPLETELY SOLD OUT

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/owabi/index.html

Nintendo has issued a public apology regarding the issue on their website, and the next major shipment wont be in til the end of January. Could we see DS sales of 0 next week? PSP comeback??? XBOX 360's CHANCE TO SHINE?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: OptimusPrime on January 05, 2006, 03:24:19 AM
It's Nintendo owns fault... they launch Mario Kart and Animal Crossing ready for the same holiday period and have all those mass-market games like Nintendogs and Brain Training popping up the top-ten...again! Offcourse there's going to be demand for the hardware that plays the bloody thing...

And isn't this a record also? Selling out even if you're a year out? I mean... I can see why Nintendo is wanted by stockholders...jeezs, they're sitting on the golden eggs each holding a duck that can lay golden eggs! Sony can learn a thing or two...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 05, 2006, 04:32:43 AM
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they do if they want thier non-gaming(read: not hardcore) friends to come over and play.

Just like when you want someone to come over and play SSBM, do you expect them to buy their own controllers and bring them over(assuming they don't own a GC)?


But see, FF:CC wasn't *designed* for that.  I don't think *anyone* (Nintendo, Squre/Enix) really expects one person to go out and buy four GBAs and four Link Cables just to play the game multi-player.  The game was simply designed for people who have friends who have GBAs.  You don't?  Well, then the game isn't for you.  Just like Madden 06 isn't for me.  See how simple it is?

BTW, I work with a guy who wanted to go over to this other guy's house and play against him on his new XBox 360.  The guy who owns it told the guy who wanted to play that he'd have to buy a second controller.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 05, 2006, 05:26:33 AM
Every person I knew at teh time had a GBA and me and all my friends wanted to play FFCC, I had  a Cube but only 1 other friend did, and I bought the game but we had a ahrd time finding link cables, so we only had 1 and we couldnt use it for 4 people. The game was a neat idea but very crappy exectution. And back in 2003 when the game came out GBAs werent as cheap as they are now nietehr were the SPs so the cost is higher than what was figured up a couple posts back.

It would have worked liek Ian said if the link cables were either included with the game or the system, cuz they sold out pretty fast due to limited supply. Also teh fact that so few games used te connectivity properly it was a bad investment. I truely tried to get the mostout of it I wanted to play ffcc and four swords with my freidns as did they but too many factors prevented that, yet we get together once a week to play mario party and smash bros duye to ease of play, since finding 4 gc controlers is so much easier than gba and link cables and such.


back to Ds slaughtering the PSP, this is nes actualy doesnt surprise me one bit I was telling people all along psp didnt have a a chance and now I see the proof. I just wisgh i could get my sony fanboy friends to give it a chance and get theorown so we can play each other online.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 05, 2006, 05:36:21 AM
I do believe original GBAs were about $60 when FF:CC came out.
As far as link cables go, store.nintendo.com has *always* had 'em in stock.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on January 05, 2006, 06:13:20 AM
yeah, they were $60... I remember buying a GBA-eReader bundle on sale for $75 like a week before CC came out.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 05, 2006, 06:40:26 AM
I'm anti-social, so I played FF:CC by myself.  The game could have been better if there had been computer controlled allies the way Secret of Mana was.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 05, 2006, 09:07:07 AM
The game was simply designed for people who have friends who have GBAs. You don't? Well, then the game isn't for you. Just like Madden 06 isn't for me. See how simple it is?

Well, see, there's a big difference there.. You don't like Madden, but the fact that you don't like it is because of the genre or the type of game it is. Someone may love FFCC and its gameplay, but they don't have GBA-owning friends, so they wouldn't be able to get the most out of it. There should never be such a tight restriction on a game..

Back to the DS sales - it SOLD OUT in Japan? Geez, Nintendo can never do anything right!  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 05, 2006, 09:43:05 AM
13 million in little over a year is awesome, especially considering all the bad publicity the DS had at launch, I really expect this number to accelerate in the next few years.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 05, 2006, 10:19:35 AM
Guys, enough all ready with the FF:CC talk. It was simply an interesting idea that was implemented quite awkwardly because of technological limitations.

I like to think of it as equivalent to the situation back in the 80's where they made a modem for the NES.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 05, 2006, 10:53:59 AM
Haha, 13 million. Probably closing in on total 'Cube sales for the past five years, except that this one did it in one. Pretty ridiculous.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 05, 2006, 11:22:51 AM
According to Media Create charts, 2005 sales of the DS in Japan alone are higher than overall sales of the Gamecube. -_-
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 05, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
Nintendo really needs to push the similarities and parallells that the Revolution shares with the Nintendo DS, if it can do that successfully, then there's no question the Revolution will be extremely successful.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 05, 2006, 05:33:21 PM
In Japan...

(I know it's doing well in the US as well, but most of the talk and hype is still for the PSP for whatever reason)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 05, 2006, 05:39:59 PM
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Well, see, there's a big difference there.. You don't like Madden, but the fact that you don't like it is because of the genre or the type of game it is. Someone may love FFCC and its gameplay, but they don't have GBA-owning friends, so they wouldn't be able to get the most out of it. There should never be such a tight restriction on a game..


That's like saying that if I like Perfect Dark Zero, but I don't have high-speed internet, it's Microsoft/Rare's fault for not allowing me full access to all the features of the game because to play it online, I have to have high speed internet...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 05, 2006, 07:58:10 PM
ok, but only I need an internet connection for 3 friends to come over and have a 16 player death match, everyone of us doesn't have to  bring our own internet connection to play together.
there is a big difference
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 05, 2006, 08:50:59 PM
so ok I had this big post to put here, no surprise I know, and then I realized I was in the wrong thread, but since I started typing anyways I am just gonna say that I heard Sony was gonna try pushing Connectivity between PSP and console Playstations liek PS2 and 3, what if it backfires on them like it did with nintendo? Does any body think that could hurt Sony alot?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 05, 2006, 08:55:18 PM
But the other players beyond those three have to also have an internet connection and a system and the game.  To play a 16 player game (and thus to 'get the most out of it'), the cost is a lot higher for PD0 online or Mario Kart DS online than for FF:CC/Connectivity was.  It may be less accessible for most, but cost sould not be a factor.  One player needs a TV, a GCN, the game, their GBA and a Link Cable ($360)  The other players bring over their GBAs that they already own (not ones that they bought *just* for this game) in order to play multiplayer.  Either the GCN owner or those with the GBAs can supply the link cable.

The only real complaint (cost wise) would be about the Link Cable.  Yeah, those with GBAs and without a GCN (or just without a use for the cable) won't want to buy the cable, so there a possibililty for an extra $15-$60 cost for the person who owns the game.  I can't really defend that part of it (although, again, it's all cheaper than the total cost of other "online" games).

Personally, I've got five Link Cables and only ever purchased one of them - so really, the cost didn't have to be high.  My first cable, I ordered from Nintendo (the only way to get them when they were first offered for Sonic Advance/Sonic Adventure 2: Battle).  My second one came free with my Pokémon Colosseum Pre-Order that I never picked up ($5 down for the bonus disc and a link cable - I couldn't pass it up).  My third one came free with FF:CC, my fourth came free with Zelda: Four Swords Adventures and my fifth came free with my imported FSA (had to get Tetra's Trackers!).  Granted, I don't expect everyone to have managed to get all these free Link Cables the same way I did, but considering Nintendo gave so many away (also, there was a GCN bundle that included Wind Waker and a GBA/GCN link cable), to claim that they were hard to get/cost too much just doesn't sit too well with me.

Now if you want to complain about how hard it is to get three friends with GBAs to come over vs. getting three (or more) people together online, yeah, that's a valid complaint.  Heck, I have a hard enough time working out a schedule to get two or three friends without GBAs to come over to play regular multi-player games.  But again, if you can't get people to play games at your house, would you buy the next Mario Party game?  No, it's not for you.  The same with FF:CC - it just simply wasn't a game for everyone.  It was a game for people with friends who had GBAs. Period.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 05, 2006, 10:00:27 PM
Sony was gonna try pushing Connectivity between PSP and console Playstations liek PS2 and 3, what if it backfires on them like it did with nintendo? Does any body think that could hurt Sony alot?

I don't really think it would hurt them; it just wouldn't help them a lot.. The PS3, in all likelihood, will have a much larger userbase than the PSP, which was opposite from the GBA/GCN comparison. Unless games made for the PS3 go out of their way for connectivity, and the end result is a worse game, then yeah, it could hurt them more..

And UncleBob, do you think that a game should be designed with such a big restriction as FFCC had? If a game is not meant for you, it usually means that you don't like the style of gameplay or the genre or whatever, like you don't like Madden. But that's not the case at all here. You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..

All online games have local multiplayer as well.. That means that if you want, you can get 3 other friends to play the game, and all you'd need would be 3 more controllers, not all the equipment FFCC needs. And you wouldn't need online either...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 05, 2006, 11:07:12 PM
Media Create Sales 12/26-01/01

1. NDS Brain Training 2 414,556 NEW
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS 205,119 (1,382,228)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS 168,680 (836,478)
4. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 156,837 (884,428)
5. NDS Brain Training 153,189 (1,157,870)
6. PS2 Front Mission 5 146,209 NEW
7. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 132,726 NEW
8. NDS Gentle Brain Training 82,789 (935,535)
9. NDS Tamagotchi 63,433 (784,537)
10. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force 61,154 (572,858)

................... there are no words.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 06, 2006, 12:54:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
................... there are no words.

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Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 06, 2006, 01:06:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario

................... there are no words.
And people said the DS was gonna be crushed by the PSP's awesome-ness...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 06, 2006, 01:18:47 AM
the rest of the Top 30

11 (PS2) Naruto Narutimate Hero 3
12 (GBA) Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon Red
13 (360) Dead or Alive 4
14 (PSP) Super Robot Taisen MX Portable
15 (DS) Daredemo Asobi Taizen
16 (PSP) Monster Hunter Portable
17 (PS2) Tales of the Abyss
18 (GC) Mario Party 7
19 (DS) Slime Morimori Dragon Quest II
20 (DS) Dragon Ball Z

21 (PS2) Ryu Ga Gotoku
22 (PS2) Momotarou Dentetsu 15
23 (PS2) biohazard 4
24 (GBA) Rockman EXE 6 Graygar
25 (DS) nintendogs Shiba
26 (GBA) Final Fantasy IV Advance

27 (PS2) Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence
28 (DS) Mushiking DS
29 (DS) nintendogs Dach
30 (DS) nintendogs Chihuahua


Dats ImpreSsive

19 of the Top 30 on a Nintendo system
10 on on a Sony system
& only 1 on a MS system
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 06, 2006, 02:36:55 AM
Hardware sales

DS 390,181
PSP 110,741
PS2 78,646
GBASP 15,998
GC 12,579
Xbox360 12,300
GBM 11,234
GBA 447
Xbox 121

Shortages and still 400,000 sold?

Xbox 360 sales MORE THAN DOUBLED with the release of Dead or Alive 4. I can hear the partying from Microsoft Japan HQ from here!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 06, 2006, 02:55:35 AM
Ahhhh, it pains me to see the Micro failing.  Worse sales than even the 360.

On the other hand YA DS GOOOOO

(The PSP isn't really doing that bad, it's maintained a #2 spot, it's just that it looks REALLY bad in comparison to DS sales :-P)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MrAustin on January 06, 2006, 03:35:01 AM
I wanted a Micro, but I got a DS.  I just can't justify $90 for a swanky GBA when I spent $10 (yes, $10) more and got a DS.  I think that has a great deal to do with its low sales, is its high price point.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on January 06, 2006, 04:25:10 AM
The Micro was set for mediocrity from the start in my opinion.  Nintendo just released it as an attempt to prolong the GBA's life, and it has done that.  I'm sure sales of the version 2 NES and Super NES systems were similarly low.  The point is to keep interest alive in a dying system, not to take the industry by storm with old technology.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 06, 2006, 04:45:39 AM
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And UncleBob, do you think that a game should be designed with such a big restriction as FFCC had? If a game is not meant for you, it usually means that you don't like the style of gameplay or the genre or whatever, like you don't like Madden. But that's not the case at all here. You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


So... Nintendo shouldn't release Electroplankton?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on January 06, 2006, 05:47:09 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
The Micro was set for mediocrity from the start in my opinion.  Nintendo just released it as an attempt to prolong the GBA's life, and it has done that.  I'm sure sales of the version 2 NES and Super NES systems were similarly low.  The point is to keep interest alive in a dying system, not to take the industry by storm with old technology.


I saw the Micro more as an attempt to cash in on the "portable video games as fashion" trend that the PSP seemed to have got so many sales from. I'm not seeing huge left over stock of the thing anywhere I've gone... so I suspect it's selling about as well as they expected.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on January 06, 2006, 06:12:20 AM
"Ahhhh, it pains me to see the Micro failing. Worse sales than even the 360."

I called that the second rumours of another GBA started floating around.  Only a complete tool (or a hardcore game collector) would buy a Micro.  If you just want a GBA the SP is much cheaper (and now has a better light) and for just a bit more money you can buy a DS and get access to a whole over system's worth of games, a system that is still being supported.  Basically Micro sales relied on consumer ignorance or stupidity to sell.

Now hopefully Nintendo knew it wouldn't sell that well and they didn't waste money producing whole warehouses full of Micros.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on January 06, 2006, 08:03:41 AM
I doubt they overproduced. Reggie hinted that they were doubtful of continued success. When asked how long they would sell it, he said, 'As long as people will buy it.  Maybe three months, maybe a year.' I'm paraphrasing till I remember which video he said that in. I'll get the quote later.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JonLeung on January 06, 2006, 08:16:19 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


Er...but aren't GBA sales more than four times that of GCN sales?

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on January 06, 2006, 08:35:12 AM
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Only a complete tool (or a hardcore game collector) would buy a Micro.
Hey, I just got a Micro, so lay off.  

I was totally able to resist the Micro until the Famicom version was announced.  My GBA SP is starting to show its age, and I hate playing GBA games on my DS (the extra unusable face buttons annoy me) so I figured I'd pick one up, if for no other reason than to play FF IV, V & VI.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 06, 2006, 08:37:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane

I called that the second rumours of another GBA started floating around.  Only a complete tool (or a hardcore game collector) would buy a Micro.  If you just want a GBA the SP is much cheaper (and now has a better light) and for just a bit more money you can buy a DS and get access to a whole over system's worth of games, a system that is still being supported.  Basically Micro sales relied on consumer ignorance or stupidity to sell.
Geez ian, you're not ignorant at all, are you? You've not played a Micro, I can gather. Micro's screen is way sharper and produces a much better picture then the SP and far better then backlit SP. You'll want to trash your SP after playing on a Micro. And speaking of playing, the cross pad and buttons are no more closer together or smaller then the SP, in fact their even further apart thanks to the horizontal layout. And battery time is just the same if not better. And besides the link cable connectivity stuff was a 'complete' failure, so why should it bother you that it doesn't work with those or the e-reader. I'll trade the small size and great screen any day for GB playback.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 06, 2006, 10:32:48 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
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Originally posted by: IceCold
You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


Er...but aren't GBA sales more than four times that of GCN sales?


=D

Which is why I think the game was meant for GBA owners.  I don't know REALITY, but would you think there's even LESS people who have GC-owning FRIENDS?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 06, 2006, 11:09:19 AM
Yea, if anything it was designed to sell Gamecubes to GBA owners, rather then the other way around.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on January 06, 2006, 11:19:55 AM
There were just too many variables for most people to have a chance to really play/enjoy FFCC.

1) Cube Owner who likes RPGs
2) Has friends with GBAs
3) Friends must also like RPGs
4) Friends either must have cables or Cube owner is willing to drop an extra $30-$40 on cables.

Unfortunately, as much as I love RPGs, the opportunity was just never there for me...

The sad part of the whole thing is how much I wanted Square-Enix (OK... mostly Enix) to get back into Nintendo development... then the only Cube offering was something I never got a chance to see... at least I got FFTA, so it wasn't a total loss
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 06, 2006, 12:43:29 PM
Wow. I especially love that the GameCube is outselling the 360. Software:

Amazing week for Nintendo! 8 of the Top 10 are DS games, 11 of the Top 20 are DS games, and 13 of the Top 20 are Nintendo games.  

EDIT: PEOPLE SHOULD STAY ON TOPIC
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on January 06, 2006, 02:08:54 PM
Mario and BlackNMild2k1 have already posted these numbers on the previous page. The also list which game is which.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 06, 2006, 02:23:26 PM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz

4) Friends either must have cables or Cube owner is willing to drop an extra $30-$40 on cables.
Even back in the day it was easy to pick up cables for cheap. Used from GameStop/EB, new/used from eBay, or packed in with the games themself. If you wanted to play the game there were multiple ways to get the cables without paying $15 a pop.

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Unfortunately, as much as I love RPGs, the opportunity was just never there for me...

The sad part of the whole thing is how much I wanted Square-Enix (OK... mostly Enix) to get back into Nintendo development... then the only Cube offering was something I never got a chance to see... at least I got FFTA, so it wasn't a total loss
Pick the game up, honestly, its quite fun even in single player. Perhaps even more fun, you don't have friends that always want to skip cut sceens and you can enjoy the art work and music at a much more leasurly pace. Granted you won't be able to pull off, say, Blizzaga +2 in single player. It's pretty hard to pull it off, for practical use, in multiplayer anyway. My friends and I can do it on a single monster, or for practice, but against bosses? Forget it, to much stuff smacking you around. If your lucky though, I believe you can pull off *aga +1 with the moogles help.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 06, 2006, 06:55:29 PM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
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Originally posted by: IceCold
You could absolutely love the gameplay in FFCC, but, as you said, it was meant for people with GBA-owning friends. And that means not many people..


Er...but aren't GBA sales more than four times that of GCN sales?
Yeah, but I meant that not many people could get together with a GCN AND 3 GBAs AND 3 link cables..instead of, say, 3 other controllers.. the restrictions that FFCC placed on the player were too much.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 06, 2006, 08:38:51 PM
FFCC was too restriced. We get it. Let's get this back on topic.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 08, 2006, 05:53:36 PM
I ws watching X-play today and the were reviewing Liberty City Stories and talking trash how teh PSP was gonna blow the Ds away because of it, is it just me or do they always make the PSP sound better than teh DS just cuz its Playstation?  I watch that show alot and tehy seam to always bash any DS game from what i can tell.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 08, 2006, 10:42:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
FFCC was too restriced. We get it. Let's get this back on topic.
Right away sir...

Japan monthly charts: December 2005 #1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note: 28 Nov - 25 Dec

1. (DS, Nintendo) Oideyo Doubutsu no Mori - 834,332 / 1,169,757
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Kingdom Hearts II - 737,652 / new
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 669,575 / new
4. (PS2, Namco) Tales of the Abyss - 440,225 / new
5. (PS2, Capcom) biohazard 4 - 370,590 / new
6. (DS, Bandai) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi - 368,436 / 770,391
7. (GBA, Pokemon) Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Aka no Kyuujoutai - 338,178 / 517,484
8. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Ao no Kyuujoutai - 326,463 / 521,380
9. (PS2, SCE) Rogue Galaxy - 299,310 / new
10. (GBA, Capcom) Rockman EXE 6 Faltzer / Graygar - 241,834 / 432,119

11. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable - 233,783 / new
12. (PS2, Sega) Ryuu ga Gotoku - 232,650 / new
13. (DS, Nintendo) Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - 215,731 / 1,011,341
14. (GC, Nintendo) Mario Party 7 - 199,145 / 329,633
15. (PS2, Bandai) Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3 - 194,372 / new
16. (DS, Nintendo) Yawaraka Atamajuku - 191,907 / 875,371
17. (DS, Nintendo) nintendogs Shiba / Dach / Chihuahua - 178,164 / 965,665
18. (DS, Square Enix) Slime Morimori Dragon Quest II - 176,218 / new
19. (DS, Bandai) Dragon Ball Z - 165,599 / new
20. (PS2, Hudson) Momotarou Dentetsu 15 - 149,550 / new

21. (GC, Tomy) Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 4 - 145,437 / 233,107
22. (DS, Nintendo) Dare Demo Asobi Taizen - 143,093 / 301,809
23. (GBA, Square Enix) Final Fantasy IV Advance - 134,148
24. (PS2, SCE) Ratchet and Clank 4th - 99,276 / 187,773
25. (DS, Sega) Mushiking Greatest Champion DS - 94,158 / new
26. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Trozei - 83,998 / 215,038
27. (PS2, Konami) Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence - 73,337 / new
28. (GBA, Nintendo) Super Donkey Kong 3 - 69,985 / new
29. (PS2, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Ketteiban - 64,354 / new
30. (DS, Nintendo) Super Princess Peach - 60,111 / 142,684

31. (PS2, Sega) Jissen Pachislot: Aladdin 2 Evolution - 57,1777 / new
32. (DS, Konami) Power Pro Kun Pocket 8 - 55,597 / new
33. (GC, Bandai) SD Gundam Gashapon Wars - 54,765 / new
34. (PS2, Namco) Taiko no Tatsujin Wai Wai Happy! 6th - 53,483 / new
35. (GC, Sega) BLEACH GC - 50,684 / new
36. (PSP, Koei) Geki Sengoku Musou - 50,684 / new
37. (PS2, Tecmo) Gallop Racer 8 Live Horse Racing - 48,726 / new
38. (GBA, Nintendo) Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers - 46,661 / 1,034,264
39. (PSP, Sega) Nouryoku Trainer Portable - 46,514 / 185,199
40. (DS, Nintendo) Jump Superstars - 44,223 / 464,076

41. (PS2, Bandai) Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED: Federation vs. ZAFT - 41,139 / 417,191
42. (DS, Nintendo) Sawaru Made in Wario 39,354 / 855,565
43. (X360, Namco) Ridge Racer 6 - 38,756 / new
44. (PSP, SCE) Minna no Golf Portable (PSP The Best) - 35,932 / 53,333
45. (GBA, Pokemon) Pokemon Emerald - 35,537 / 1,654,858
46. (DS, Bandai) Futari no Pretty Cure MaxHeart DANZEN - 30,048 / new
47. (PS2, Tecmo) Monster Farm 5 Circus Caravan - 33,876 / new
48. (GBA, Banpresto) Summon Night Craft Sword - 33,649 / new
49. (GBA, Sega) Mushiking - 31,743 / 629,902
50. (PS2, Konami) JLeague Winning Eleven 9 Asia Championship / 31,738 / 104,795

51. (PS2, Airem Software) Pachi Para 12 - 31,007 / new
52. (DS, Nintendo) Super Mario 64 DS - 30,845 / 814,108
53. (DS, Marvelous) Harvest Moon: Corobockle Station for Girls - 30,619 / new
54. (PS2, Genki) Ikusagami - 30,268 / 84,408
55. (PS2, Square Enix) Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (Ultimate Hits) - 30,075 / 80,709
56. (PS2, Daito Giken) Daito Giken Pachislot Simulator - 29,061 / 184,440
57. (PSP, Namco) Boku no Watashi no Katamari - 28,632 / new
58. (PS2, Koei) The One Jockey 4 - 27,157 / new
59. (PS2, Kadokawa Shoten) DCFS Da Capo Fall Seasons - 28,373 / new
60. (PS2, Namco) Soul Calibur III - 26,171 / 126,402

61. (DS, Nintendo) Tottoko Hamtarou DS - 25,723 / new
62. (PS2, EA) Need for Speed Underground - 24,157
63. (GBA, Pokemon) Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green - 24,122 / 2,580,513
64. (PS2, Banpresto) Yoshitsune-ki - 23,440 / new
65. (PSP, SCE) Talkman - 22,795 / 46,845
66. (PS2, Bandai) Kamen Rider - 22,605 / new
67. (PSP, Konami) Metal Gear Acid 2 - 22,234 / new
68. (GC, Pokemon) Pokemon XD: Yami no Senpuu Dark Lugia - 21,999 / 232,196
69. (PS2, Square Enix) Kingdom Hearts (Ultimate Hits) - 21,821 / 49,708
70. (PS2, Bandai) Dragon Ball Z Sparking - 21,207 / 532.690

71. (X360, Microsoft) Perfect Dark Zero - 20,760 / new
72. (PS2, Sega) Pachinko CR - 20,071 / new
73. (PSP, SCE) Piposaru Academia 2 - 19,789 / new
74. (DS, Nintendo) Touch! Kirby - 19,679 / 276,418
75. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Golf 4 (PS2 The Best) - 19,309 / 38,863
76. (PS2, SCE) Sarugetchu! 3 (PS2 The Best) - 18,860 / 33,569
77. (PS2, Konami) Prince of Tennis - 17,587 / new
78. (PS2, D3 Publisher) L-1 WORLD GP 2005 - 16,760 / new
79. (GC, Nintendo) Super Mario Stadium: Miracle Baseball - 16,604 / 211,661
80. (PSP, Konami) World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Evolution - 16,594 / 202,176

81. (DS, Konami) Croquet DS - 16,545 / new
82. (PS2, Konami) Akumajou Dracula Curse of Darkness - 14,877 / 42,926
83. (GBA, Konami) Yugioh Duel Monsters GX Mezase Duel King - 14,707 / 89,862
84. (GBA, Pokemon) Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire - 14,625 / 5,302,676
85. (GBA, Banpresto) Konjiki no Gashbell Dream Tag Tournament - 14,407 / 18,930
86. (GC, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 Ketteiban - 14,047 / new
87. (PS2, Bandai) One Piece Pirate's Carnival - 13,990 / 22,918
88. (GBA, Nintendo) Mario Tennis Advance - 13,924 / 113,225
89. (GBA, Konami) Animal Yokochou - 13,616 / new
90. (PS2, SNK Playmore) Neo Geo Battle Colosseum - 13,243 / new

91. (GBA, Nintendo) Dr. Mario & Panel de Pon - 13,079 / 89,008
92. (DS, Tomy) Zoids Saga DS ~legend of arcadia~ - 13,051 / new
93. (PSP, Namco) Tales of Eternia (PSP The Best) - 12,985 / new
94. (X360, EA) Need for Speed Underground - 12,818 / new
95. (PS2, Sega) Puyo Puyo Fever 2 - 12,605 / 18,300
96. (PSP, Konami) Eyeshield 21 - 12,418 / new
97. (PSP, Namco) Ridge Racers (PSP The Best) - 12,410 / 17,040
98. (GBA, MTO) Ochainu no Bouken Jima - 12,301 / new
99. (PSP, Capcom) Irregular Hunter X - 12,038 / new
100. (PS2, Spike) - Kenka Banchou (PS2 The Best) 11,990 / new

DS - 1,447,719
PSP - 423,850
PS2 - 231,912
GBASP - 88,497
X360 - 81,770
GC - 71,473
GBm - 55,774
GBA - 2,669

Xbox - 548
---------------------------------------------------------------
DS sold more in a week than PSP sold all month
GBA sold more than Xbox 360  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on January 08, 2006, 11:23:09 PM
Am I reading that right? One million sold in a single month? Wow.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 09, 2006, 02:19:13 AM
Why isn't the last week of December counted in that chart?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 09, 2006, 04:12:23 AM
Wandering: Almost 1.5 million, 3.5 times as much as the PSP...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 09, 2006, 06:15:12 AM
17 times as much as the 360...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2006, 06:30:43 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales 12/26-01/01

1. NDS Brain Training 2 414,556 NEW
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS 205,119 (1,382,228)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS 168,680 (836,478)
4. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 156,837 (884,428)
5. NDS Brain Training 153,189 (1,157,870)
6. PS2 Front Mission 5 146,209 NEW
7. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 132,726 NEW
8. NDS Gentle Brain Training 82,789 (935,535)
9. NDS Tamagotchi 63,433 (784,537)
10. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force 61,154 (572,858)

Hardware sales

DS 390,181
PSP 110,741
PS2 78,646
GBASP 15,998
GC 12,579
Xbox360 12,300
GBM 11,234
GBA 447
Xbox 121

Feel free to add this to the monthly chart

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 09, 2006, 09:00:31 AM
So that would make nearly 2 million in a month for an already-launched console? Wow.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 09, 2006, 02:23:27 PM
YOU WILL SAY...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 09, 2006, 03:02:13 PM
...wow that's a lot of DS?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 09, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
Microsoft expected to sell 3 million 360 (worldwide) in 90 days... Nintendo has done that with the DS in 1/3 the time!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 09, 2006, 07:15:02 PM
Microsoft has also recently abandoned that prediction.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1982&Itemid=2

I doubt the DS can keep going this strong for very long...because in about 6 months the entire population of Japan will have one! Keep in mind I have no idea how many people live in Japan, and I'm an idiot. Seriously DS will be up by like 10 million over PSP if it stays this way for about 6 more months though, maybe in less time.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 09, 2006, 07:19:36 PM
If the DS sells oh...20-30 times more systems, then everyone in Japan will have one.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 09, 2006, 08:24:44 PM
Well, there's the shortage thing, so I'd expect next weeks numbers to be a lot less.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on January 10, 2006, 06:25:28 PM
Damn it, I want one so bad....When are they going to release new colors in the states?

The numbers are outrageous! Does anybody know the US and Europe numbers alone?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 11, 2006, 07:43:23 AM
US about 4 million
Europe about 3.5 million

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 11, 2006, 04:27:37 PM
Media Create Sales 01/02-01/08

1. NDS Brain Training 2 290,000 (705,000)
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS 133,000 (1,515,000)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS 115,000 (951,000)
4. NDS Brain Training 114,000 (1,272,000)
5. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 98,000 (231,000)
6. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 83,000 (968,000)
7. NDS Gentle Brain Training 63,000 (998,000)
8. NDS Tamagotchi 62,000 (846,000)
9. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue 57,000 (630,000)
10. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red 49,000 (607,000)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 11, 2006, 04:29:31 PM
LMAO. That's got to be the best thing EVER. I'm insanely curious about system sales now!

Next week MK will hit 1,000,000. Then the next week Brain Training 2 and Gentle Brain Training should. And Tamagotchi should within a month. How many million sellars does the DS have!?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 11, 2006, 04:33:45 PM
This is perhaps antagonistic, but how many million sellers does PSP have?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 11, 2006, 04:35:13 PM
0

DS should have 7 in the next month. Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, Brain Training 1 and Gentle Brain Training (998k, close enough) have already crossed a million, with Brain Training 2, Mario Kart and Tamagotchi approaching. Wario Ware Touched and Super Mario 64 DS will also reach there soon as well, which will make 9.

Also, don't get your hopes up for Hardware Sales, considering DS is sold out it can't have sold too many, this chart is mostly the result of the HUGE train of new DS users over the past few weeks buying more software.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2006, 04:47:05 PM
KH owned by Gentle Penis Training lolololololo
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2006, 08:58:11 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales 01/02-01/08

1. NDS Brain Training 2 290,000 (705,000)
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS 133,000 (1,515,000)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS 115,000 (951,000)
4. NDS Brain Training 114,000 (1,272,000)
5. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 98,000 (231,000)
6. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 83,000 (968,000)
7. NDS Gentle Brain Training 63,000 (998,000)
8. NDS Tamagotchi 62,000 (846,000)
9. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue 57,000 (630,000)
10. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red 49,000 (607,000)

11. Monster Hunter Portable (PSP)
12. Daredemo Asobi Taizen (DS)
13. Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3 (PS2)
14. Front Mission 5th: Scars of War (PS2)
15. Slime Morimori Dragon Quest (DS)
16. Dragon Ball Z (DS)
17. Tales of the Abyss (PS2)
18. Mario Party 7 (GC)
19. Rockman EXE 6 Graygar (GBA)
20. nintendogs Shiba (DS)
21. Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (GBA)
22. Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 4 (GC)
23. nintendogs Dach (DS)
24. Pokemon Trozei (DS)
25. nintendogs Chihuahua (DS)
26. Mushiking DS (DS)
27. Rockman EXE 6 Faltzer (GBA)
28. Ryu ga Gotoku (PS2)
29. Momotarou Dentetsu 15 (PS2)
30. Final Fantasy IV Advance (GBA)

Hardware: (unofficial)

DS 191000
PSP 132000
PS2 80000
360 7000
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 12, 2006, 03:28:30 AM
Whoa, it's on an official shortage and still outsells everything? Ouch...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 12, 2006, 03:34:42 AM
Those hardware numbers are not confirmed.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 12, 2006, 04:54:04 AM
If you're being serious about the number of million sellers in Japan for PSP, the number is ZERO. I don't think any game has even sold a half million yet. It would be a shame if Nintendo ever left the console business, but if it did, I bet they could survive on handhelds alone.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on January 12, 2006, 08:41:22 AM
The unofficial hardware numbers I saw matched those, except it was only 91,000 for DS, not 191,000.

Someone goofed.  Not sure who.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 12, 2006, 10:25:22 AM
Either way its damn good sales for a system on limited stocks.

And 23 out of those top 30 games are on Ninty platforms

aaaahhhh...all is well in nintendoland.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on January 12, 2006, 11:03:19 AM



EDIT:

Is it me or do they looked stoned.

Furthermore, was the above statement racist! lol  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 12, 2006, 11:12:37 AM
Shouldn't that DS be printing Yen?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 12, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
PSP - 132,757
DS - 91,379
PS2 - 80,886
GBASP - 17,443
GC - 13,423
GBM - 11,818
Xbox360 - 7,477
GBA - 564
Xbox - 156

OH SHI! PACK YOUR THINGS NINTENDO. People obviously aren't falling for these Brain Training GIMICKS and this train of games. People don't WANT to buy games Nintendo! Look at PSP, one game in the top 30 and it's #1.

PSP has momentum and this is just the beginning. Highest selling system of 2006 so far.



This is a bad sign for Revolution, how can Nintendo possibly have a chance in the console market when they're even getting destroyed in the handheld market. Seriously, PSP outsold all Nintendo handhelds combined.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on January 12, 2006, 02:42:26 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
OH SHI! PACK YOUR THINGS NINTENDO. People obviously aren't falling for these Brain Training GIMICKS and this train of games. People don't WANT to buy games Nintendo! Look at PSP, one game in the top 30 and it's #1.

PSP has momentum and this is just the beginning. Highest selling system of 2006 so far.


What's sad is that it seems highly likely that many Sony fans will be spinning that figure, most of them ignoring the outtages.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 12, 2006, 02:47:52 PM
At least X360 isn't slowing down sales of the original Xbox at all in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 12, 2006, 02:50:31 PM
Yes, it seems Microsoft has done what Nintendo failed to do, have two similar systems co-existing. After DS was out GBA took a rather big fall, Xbox 360 isn't putting a dent in the consistancy of Xbox. Take notes, Nintendo.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on January 12, 2006, 08:54:59 PM
Man.... I don't think anyone was expecting the DS to do so well..... I mean even now with the shortage it still has a decent number. If this is like anything we can expect to see on the console front, all will be right with the world.

Err..... actually, all would be right if Microsoft fell, Sega got back up, and we had the good ol' Nintendo vs. Sega situation again.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 13, 2006, 02:23:53 AM
I still have yet to believe that the DS is a success in America.  The talk, the buzz, the hype is all PSP, regardless of whether it's actually selling or not.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on January 13, 2006, 03:30:00 AM
Once new colors and *gasp* the DS: SP come out, the numbers will surely sky-rocket.

I, alone, know many people who are waiting for a re-design or the black or white DS. This includes myself (i'll take either one of three!).

Believe it or not, the DS is ugly. It's uncomfortable, the silver and black combination isn't very sleek, and its buttons are too small. That didn't stop me from enjoying a friend's copy of Trauma Center, but it did put a halt on any plans to buy it. Games that are purely touch-screen based, I could probably play for a long time. Anything else would probably give me a cramp....

Nintendo needs to hurry and get those out this spring before people give up on both the PSP and DS.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 13, 2006, 07:35:01 AM
Just because you hear only the PSP mentioned during conversations doesn't mean that it has more hype - in fact, from what I've talked to people, its momentum has slowed down considerably, and many more people I know have bought a DS and no PSP. And with all the great games that have come out, including Nintendo's first online system, there's a game for everyone.

Also, there are small face buttons so that they can act as an alternative D-Pad for left handed players..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on January 13, 2006, 07:57:59 AM
Regarding left handed, that was one of my biggest concerns, thats why Im very glad the DS is simetric, still there are things that are problematic, for instance in Nintendogs when I walk my dogs ( or any sidescrolling game for that matter), its from right to left, the normal way, I never cared about that since its the usual way every game is, but with the touchscreen, for us lefthanded people using the stylus in these situations means covering the screen completly with our hand, I know its just to walk a dog so the problem isnt that big (still Ive missed more than one present because I couldnt see them), but for game like Kirby DS I see big issues, thats why I'll probably never buy it.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 13, 2006, 07:59:13 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
PSP - 132,757
DS - 91,379
PS2 - 80,886
GBASP - 17,443
GC - 13,423
GBM - 11,818
Xbox360 - 7,477
GBA - 564
Xbox - 156

OH SHI! PACK YOUR THINGS NINTENDO. People obviously aren't falling for these Brain Training GIMICKS and this train of games. People don't WANT to buy games Nintendo! Look at PSP, one game in the top 30 and it's #1.

PSP has momentum and this is just the beginning. Highest selling system of 2006 so far.



This is a bad sign for Revolution, how can Nintendo possibly have a chance in the console market when they're even getting destroyed in the handheld market. Seriously, PSP outsold all Nintendo handhelds combined.


Remember kids use the sarcasm tag when posting online.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on January 13, 2006, 08:55:22 AM
That's a pretty good Photoshop job, Mario.  Give yourself a pat on the back.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 13, 2006, 12:43:52 PM
lol it's Milhouse from the Simpsons.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 14, 2006, 12:20:11 AM
Relax dudes, once the shortage is over the DS will be back on top in Japan. I don't know about in the US, but I think a DS SP has the potential to be a huge seller if it added some of the features the current DS is lacking but the PSP has, like MP3 and Movie capability. These are the features the DS SP must have, imho.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 14, 2006, 01:48:48 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chozo GhostThese are the features the DS SP must have, imho.
AFAIK, it is _lack_ of these features that sells the DS Japan. They've already got far better solutions for portable video/mp3s. Like Play-Yan, iPod/Video iPod, mp3 players, etc. No need to clutter the DS with them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 14, 2006, 01:55:29 AM
Whatever the PSP seems to already have over the DS in Japan, Japanese mobile phones already have.  Plus better pricing.  And a nation full of teenage girls to maintain the market.  And time travel.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 14, 2006, 01:56:59 AM
Welp, the good news is that the DS sold over a million systems in December in the USA. The bad news is that the PSP sold more. Weird news is that the GBA outsold both. Exact numbers aren't known yet, just that GBA > PSP > DS > 1 million.

Nintendo America must have seriously been off the ball in 2005, can someone confirm this? I'd like to know why they are letting PSP tramp all over them.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 14, 2006, 02:19:04 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

Nintendo America must have seriously been off the ball in 2005, can someone confirm this? I'd like to know why they are letting PSP tramp all over them.
Tramp all over them? Why is Sony letting the GBA tramp all over them? The lack of US DS sales, if you want to call it that, is just because the GBA is quite apparently still popular here in the states, it is $50 less expensive, and plently of good games for it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 14, 2006, 02:19:05 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Quote

Originally posted by: Chozo GhostThese are the features the DS SP must have, imho.
AFAIK, it is _lack_ of these features that sells the DS Japan. They've already got far better solutions for portable video/mp3s. Like Play-Yan, iPod/Video iPod, mp3 players, etc. No need to clutter the DS with them.



I don't think it would be cluttering it up to just add a memory card slot on the side of the DS SP, or something. And I doubt it would add much to the price either. While you are probably right about Japan, the US market is different and mobile music and such isn't as universal. I just hate the idea of Nintendo losing out to Sony just because they won't add these features. Remember DVD and online gaming for the consoles? Nintendo didn't think that was important and look where the gamecube is today... I just hope Nintendo learns from this mistake with the SP before it is too late.

Besides, it isn't as though the SP would be a replacement for the original DS. I can see both existing side by side. Those who care about music and movies would opt for the SP, and everyone else would go for the original model.

Another issue is advertising. I know Nintendo wants to be profitable at all costs, but they really need to shell out some dough to advertise their products more. I've seen several PSP commercials but not one DS commercial.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 14, 2006, 07:10:32 AM
Remember, the DS launched over a year ago. Considering the GBA is the best selling handheld ever it shouldn't be too shocking that the DS was third in 2005. But if you add in its launch sales it is in front, no?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 14, 2006, 10:15:59 AM
Yes, it would be ahead overall, but not by much, which it definitely should be, with all the games that have come out..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 14, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
Nintendo needs to end the GBA now, and lower the DS price a bit, then the DS will soar.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 14, 2006, 11:06:43 AM
Predictions: DS $99 in 2006, GBA will continue to abide.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on January 14, 2006, 12:38:38 PM
The need some new colors. Everyone I talk to says the DS is pretty neat, but pretty ugly. They'd buy it if A) they release new colors or B) if the DS: SP comes out and it's smaller and sleeker.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Strell on January 14, 2006, 12:46:19 PM
I got news for people waiting for the redesign: don't expect it for another 6 months.  Even if it were to be announced on Monday, that doesn't mean it will come out anytime soon.

If you are shallow enough prick to not buy a system based on looks, you need help.  Serious, serious help.  

Ergonomics is another thing, but to me, it only sounds like whining and always has.  THE SP'S L AND R BUTTONS SUCK, THE MICRO IS TOO SMALL, THE DS IS TOO HEAVY.  Grow some balls, people.  It's a game system, it's more than playable enuogh, and if you can't honestly get over that, also get help.

However, if a DS:SP comes out, I'll be picking one up most definitely.  Mostly for collecting purposes, as I am very happy with my DS.

People are so whiny these days.   Maybe if Nintendo made chairs.  THEN we could sit around and talk about how comfortable they are or not.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on January 14, 2006, 01:48:30 PM
The ONLY reason I'd even consider buying a DSSP would be if they brightened the screens and increased the color saturation some.  Otherwise, the system is completely fine the way it is, the top screen hinge works like it's supposed to, the buttons function well, the size is really good considering whats under the hood, and it's got games I enjoy as well as a bright future lineup.  Right now, this thing would have to look like some bio-monster for me to not have bought it for it's looks and I've yet to see hardware that even comes close to looking that bad.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 14, 2006, 06:07:56 PM
Yep, PSP's #1 over here...whenever I bring Japanese numbers up in a conversation I always get "What do they know, theye're still into Pokemon and stuff."
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on January 14, 2006, 06:42:17 PM
Why would you even bring numbers into a real conversation ever?
Sony just marketing blitzed during Christmas and pleasured MTV and EBGames to push the PSP.  I don't know if advertising costs go up during xmas time but I did notice a drop off of DS commercials - actually in favor of GB Micro commercials no less.  Maybe for some reason Nintendo wants it this way... clear stock or something?  Anyway many people who own gameboys don't buy games for it - it is just not as big a focus.  I truly believe that nobody in hell actually buys games for the PSP with them being the cost of console games.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 14, 2006, 07:08:57 PM
Not only the cost of the games, but also the features on the PSP that take away from gaming - the multimedia stuff. That's why the PSP's software tie-in ratio is so low and it doesn't have any million sellers. And developers pay a lot of attention to the tie-in ratio, as much as they do to marketshare..

EDIT: And kirby, why do you keep saying that? Counting the DS launch numbers from 2004, the DS is still ahead in North America, even if it's a slim lead..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 14, 2006, 09:40:21 PM
Try telling them that the PSP does NOT play PS2 games or DVDs, that's all it took to get a coworker not to buy one.

Either way, if they want a PSP let them, freedom is all about choice and feeling the consequences of that choice. And even better, if the DS is outsold by the PSP in the US maybe that'll pull EA and Ubi away from the DS and raise the average quality of the games on that system. I mean, you can argue that Ubi and EA are good and just not my taste on the home consoles but there's no arguing that they are no contribution to the DS's game library.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 14, 2006, 09:59:16 PM
If EA ever pulls support for the DS, I'll eat my hat.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 15, 2006, 04:16:11 AM
Well I don't know how accurate these are but the robotic Mario DS posted these North American sales numbers for the year:


HANDHELDS:
Nintendo GameBoy Advance 41% 4.26 million
Sony PlayStation Portable 35% 3.63 million
Nintendo DS 23.5% 2.43 million

HOME:
Sony PlayStation 2 5.51 million 55%
Microsoft Xbox 2.40 million 24%
Nintendo GameCube 1.56 million 15%
Microsoft Xbox360 607,343 6%

Japanese sales numbers mean nothing to anyone here...the PSP was out for 3 months of the year less than the DS and still managed to sell over a million more.

And what Mario said about December sales numbers shows that more people want a PSP, it's just not affordable so people waited till the holidays.

I'm a proud DS owner (though I do own a PSP...hehe...) but this just pisses me off.  White people are a bunch of buffoons.

EDIT: USA sales for 2005.

1. Madden NFL 06 (PS2), Electronic Arts 2,177,582
2. Pokemon Emerald (GBA), Nintendo of Amercia 1,558,620
3. Gran Turismo 4 (PS2), SCEA 1,437,015
4. Madden NFL 06 (Xbox), Electronic Arts 976,944
5. NCAA Footbal 06 (PS2), Electronic Arts 917,417
6. Star Wars: Battlefront II (PS2), LucasArts 446,696
7. MVP Baseball 2005 (PS2), Electronic Arts 917,809
8. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (PS2), LucasArts 845,030
9. NBA Live 06 (PS2), Electronic Arts 492,259
10. LEGO Star Wars (PS2), Eidos 682,508

Yeah.  I'm pissed.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on January 15, 2006, 04:53:59 AM
Nintendo DS: 1,225,594 + 2.43 million = 3,655,594

Playstation Portable: 3,630,000

Wow.

I think it is funny that GTA LCS is going to be ported to the PS2. I wonder how many Americans bought the PSP just for that game, when in a few months or so, the game will be released for the PS2, probably with tightened graphics and some extra content, boy they're going to be pissed... lol.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on January 15, 2006, 05:22:04 AM
Really?  Ported to PS2?  Is that Rockstar putting pressure on Sony for not delivering a viable platform to release GTA?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 15, 2006, 05:49:01 AM
If EA ever pulls support for the DS, I'll eat my hat.

They won't pull completely just as they didn't pull Cube support completely but I'd be happy if they at least reduced the number of godawful ports.

I wonder how many Americans bought the PSP just for that game, when in a few months or so, the game will be released for the PS2, probably with tightened graphics and some extra content, boy they're going to be pissed... lol.

Unless they are only using the PSP at home that won't be a big problem. Portables have this huge advantage over home consoles they call portability.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 15, 2006, 07:25:15 AM
Unless EA pulls support in a very public and humiliating manner, no one will care.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shecky on January 15, 2006, 08:39:21 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Try telling them that the PSP does NOT play PS2 games or DVDs, that's all it took to get a coworker not to buy one.



Ditto here.  Seems that the misconception that it does is actually more common than I thought.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ruby_onix on January 15, 2006, 05:25:30 PM
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Japanese sales numbers mean nothing to anyone here...the PSP was out for 3 months of the year less than the DS and still managed to sell over a million more.

Nintendo had a million-unit launch in America that technically happened in 2004, and then it fizzled.

Sony had a (forced) million-unit launch in America that came during the DS's down time, and then it fizzled.

Then they both picked up again (the DS picked up when good games came out, leading into Christmas, while the PSP got a bigger boost just from Christmas by itself) and they each sold another 2.5 million units.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on January 16, 2006, 06:26:01 AM
"Nintendo America must have seriously been off the ball in 2005, can someone confirm this? I'd like to know why they are letting PSP tramp all over them."

Well NOA did launch the DS with a really weak lineup and then had a bunch of nothing for months and months with a few "beat it in a few hours" games in between.  That's not all their fault but in Europe and Japan the DS started out with a much better lineup.

PSP beating the DS in North America isn't a surprise.  That's what I expected when the PSP launched.  After all it launched with more games then the DS had period at that point and the PSP games were largely better.  Though Nintendo has really busted out some great games since then and Sony hasn't done much at all since launch so I'm a little surprised that now the PSP is winning.  I figured when they didn't sell out the launch units they were done.

I think the difference in market share for the two markets is based largely on the non-gamer strategy.  Nintendo came up with that strategy in response to what was happening in the Japanese market.  So it's not that surprising for the strategy to work so well in that market.  But the "problem" Nintendo was addressing doesn't exist here so the strategy isn't going to work as well, if at all.  The DS is still doing remarkably well for a console that had virtually no worthwhile games for the first 8 months or so of its life.  I think it will be fine.  But Nintendo better be careful about the non-gamer strategy regarding the Rev.  This isn't a plan that is going to work in every market.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 16, 2006, 06:42:30 AM
Ian's right.  As much as the Revolution intrigues me and as much as I can't wait to play with it, I just don't think that the market (at least the American one) needs to be "revolutionized."  That's why the DS isn't working as well here; though Nintendogs sold well, it's not some giant phonomenon like in Japan simply because people here are more interested in the yearly rehashes of Madden.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 16, 2006, 09:10:51 AM
Hey does the DS have any million sellers in the US? I'm sure the information is somewhere on these 59 pages, but I was wondering if anyone knew the numbers
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Strell on January 16, 2006, 09:12:36 AM
Well, yesterday I noticed in the span of 2-3 hours of random television (I was doing other things as well), I saw no less than 3 PSP commercials.

I saw no DS commercials.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2006, 01:20:52 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
Ian's right.  As much as the Revolution intrigues me and as much as I can't wait to play with it, I just don't think that the market (at least the American one) needs to be "revolutionized."  That's why the DS isn't working as well here; though Nintendogs sold well, it's not some giant phonomenon like in Japan simply because people here are more interested in the yearly rehashes of Madden.
Oh come on; the DS is and will be just fine - don't you worry. You're points just aren't valid due to one thing - the GBA. It sold through the roof here. And nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA has been succesfully translated to the DS. Castlevania. Mario Kart. Advance Wars. Sonic. These are all traditional gamer games and the DS versions are arguably better. And then mix in some new IPs that are made with hardcore gamers in mind. The only big difference is no Pokemon, which was obviously a big reason for the GBA's success. But regardless..

And that's exactly what Nintendo has been saying - new games such as Nintendogs and Brain Training for nongamers, but traditional (and exceptional) games to keep hold of loyal fanbase. So, with this in mind, I think that in the next year the DS will ride on the momentum it has and do extremely well in North America.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 16, 2006, 02:01:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Hey does the DS have any million sellers in the US? I'm sure the information is somewhere on these 59 pages, but I was wondering if anyone knew the numbers


Both Super Mario 64 DS and Nintendogs have sold over a million in the US.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 16, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
Thanks Mario. I'm guessing we will see Mario Kart and Animal Crossing added to the million seller list in the next 6 months, considering the legs Nintendo games usually have.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 16, 2006, 06:01:29 PM
I'm pretty sure MKDS sold 1 million too, or at least as very close.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 16, 2006, 06:38:51 PM
Total sales of every Nintendo DS game in the USA (NOTE: Numbers for Mario Kart and Nintendogs do NOT include the copies sold in bundles)

Super Mario 64 DS             | 1,286,854
Mario Kart DS                 |   653,697
Nintendogs: Dachshund         |   556,342
Nintendogs: Labrador          |   474,540
Nintendogs: Chihuahua         |   434,526
WarioWare: Touched!           |   377,080
Spider-Man: The Movie 2       |   341,671
Mario & Luigi 2               |   260,779
Animal Crossing Wild World    |   254,354
Kirby: Canvas Curse           |   237,370
Yoshi Touch & Go              |   236,398
Asphalt: Urban GT             |   229,877
Madden NFL 2005               |   193,291
The Urbz: Sims in City        |   192,524
Advance Wars: Dual Strike     |   170,615
Pokemon Dash                  |   153,980
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow    |   152,319
SW Episode III: Sith          |   143,035
Sonic Rush                    |   134,555
Zoo Tycoon                    |   120,004
Madagascar                    |   105,381
Ridge Racer DS                |   103,540
The Sims 2                    |   101,837
Yu-Gi-Oh Nightmare            |   101,538
Robots                        |    99,030
Harry Potter Goblet of Fire   |    93,955
Rayman DS                     |    93,410
Ultimate Spiderman            |    92,217
Meteos                        |    82,998
Feel the Magic: XY/XX         |    82,968
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent        |    80,079
Need Speed: Underground 2     |    77,666
Spongbob Yellow Avenger       |    76,062
Madden NFL 06                 |    74,861
Tiger Woods PGA 2005          |    73,962
Chronicles of Narnia          |    71,646
Spyro Shadow Legacy           |    71,447
Tony Hawk American Sk8land    |    68,762
Ping Pals                     |    64,770
Pac Pix                       |    64,431
Metroid Prime Pinball         |    58,258
Trauma Center                 |    56,824
Retro Atari                   |    54,644
Mr. Driller: DS               |    54,457
Need Speed Most Wanted        |    53,820
DBZ Supersonic Warrior 2      |    51,835
Bomberman                     |    50,676
Zoo Keeper                    |    50,527
Lost in Blue                  |    47,483
Shrek Superslam               |    42,427
Burnout Legends               |    38,320
Incredibles 2                 |    38,288
Lunar Dragon Song             |    38,064
Polarium                      |    37,329
Sprung                        |    37,100
T. Clancys Chaos Theory       |    36,952
King Kong                     |    35,760
World Champ Poker DS          |    34,820
Marvel Nemesis                |    33,388
Tak 3                         |    31,761
Kim Possible                  |    30,898
Trace Memory                  |    28,757
Mega Man Battle 5             |    27,654
FIFA Soccer 06                |    26,890
Pac n Roll                    |    26,730
Nanostray                     |    26,535
Phoenix Wright                |    25,969
ATV Quad Frenzy               |    22,534
Puyo Pop Fever                |    21,294
Frogger: Helmet Chaos         |    20,110
Snood 2 On Vacation           |    18,558
Scooby-Doo Unmasked           |    16,942
Viewtiful Joe Double Trouble  |    14,802
Monopoly/Boggle/Yahtzee/Batt  |    14,128
Whack-A-Mole                  |    12,926
Monster Trucks                |    11,594
TMNT 3 Mutant Nightmare       |    10,149
Sea World                     |     9,919
Battles of Prince of Persia   |     9,246
Elf Bowling 1&2               |     9,095
Dig Dug DS                    |     7,537
Ford Racing 3                 |     7,401
Real Time Conflict Shogun     |     6,598
Snow Board Kids               |     5,954
Texas Hold 'Em Poker          |     5,606
Bust-A-Move                   |     5,389
Sega Casino                   |     4,162
Space Invaders Revolution     |     2,819
Dragon Booster                |     1,196

This is just a copy / paste from another forum. I can't verify it since we (normal forumers) never got November software numbers (or December for that matter), but it seems accurate. NPD are being a bitch at the moment, seriously I don't understand why they can't just release the numbers to the public, not to mention they barely cover 50% of the market. Japan > US for sales tracking by a mile. We need more people like Media Create around the world, NPD can bite it.

Big DS sellers in December NPD judging from the new updated totals

Nintendogs All Versions - 600,000
Mario Kart - 430,000
Mario & Luigi 2 - 260,779
Animal Crossing - 254,354 (could have been a hit, but Nintendo screwed up shipments)
Sonic Rush - 100,000

Good news for Sonic Rush. EVERYONE GO BUY IT we finally get another good Sonic game and not enough people know about it.

EDIT: Top 10 selling DS games in December

1. Mario Kart DS                            431,289
2. Mario & Luigi 2                          260,779
3. Animal Crossing Wild World               254,354
4. Nintendogs: Dachshund                    244,848
5. Nintendogs: Labrador                     200,910
6. Nintendogs: Chihuahua                    184,200
7. Sonic Rush                               134,555
8. Super Mario 64 DS                         94,579
9. Zoo Tycoon                                74,979
10. The Sims 2                               68,997

Top ten PSP games:

1. GTA: Liberty City Stories                350,380
2. Madden NFL 06                            263,625
3. Need Speed Most Wanted                   263,161
4. SOCOM Fireteam Bravo                     224,469
5. Star Wars Battlefront II                 207,810
6. NBA Live 06                              117,420
7. Burnout Legends                           80,507
8. Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition              77,618
9. Harry Potter Goblet of Fire               75,040
10. WWE Smackdown vs Raw                     74,523

PSP has also passed DS in total software sales, 9,761,595 to 9,598,496. BOOOO stop buying crappy games people.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2006, 08:42:58 PM
Good news for Sonic Rush.  EVERYONE GO BUY IT we finally get another good Sonic game and not enough people know about it.

I second this times infinity.. I've said before - to me it's the second best game on the DS after Mario Kart..

And the PSP is SERIOUSLY beating the DS in software sales, even though less of them have been sold? That is utterly amazing - I would have thought (and the Japanese numbers back this up) that with all the multimedia and UMD focus, games would get lost in the equation. And they're not even good games at that! I don't know about this; I need confirmation, since it sounds really fishy..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on January 16, 2006, 11:00:59 PM
I've heard nothing but praise on Sonic Rush, and from the videos I've seen. it's looking like the best Sonic game since the Genesis!! I really do need to pick that one up And it's a shame the Animal Crossing sales are so low.... I've seached everywhere and a few online stores have it in stock, but other then that.... nothing
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2006, 11:37:35 PM
Yeah, I think Nintendo undershipped AC to here, even though there is big demand..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2006, 02:49:23 AM
Yeah, that sounds like the case from what i've been hearing as well. It should have steady sales for the next few months then, we'll see.

Sonic Rush seriously is the best sonic since Sonic & Knuckles in the good old days, if you're an old Sonic fan don't even hesitate to pick it up, you'll love it.

Anyways, it seems DS software sales actually ARE higher than the PSP's, taking into account they don't include the bundled copies of Mario Kart and Nintendogs.

GBA 1,213,196
PSP - 1,120,000
DS - 1,070,000

Nintendo was still on top of December, what they really need to start doing is converting those GBA fans towards the DS, it worked in Japan and if it happened here DS would be doubling PSP. Sadly I don't think people in the US are going to realise DS is the new GBA and plays GBA games until Pokemon hits, which could be as late as 2007. Unless there's another surprise hit, like Metroid Prime Hunters, which i'm not too sure about at the moment.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 17, 2006, 05:28:31 AM
Now, if I'm correct, the US numbers do not include Wal*Mart sales at all (and Wal-Mart makes up, like, 35% of all video game sales according to EB and GameStop when they wanted to merge)....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 17, 2006, 08:19:35 AM
Sonic Rush is good, despite problems like being unable to properly judge distances in boss fights, deathtraps that can only be avoided through trial and error and of course Sky Chase Zone it is a fun game and Dead Line Zone has to be one of the best Zones I've ever come across. Castlevania beats it for "best DS game" IMO, though.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 17, 2006, 10:02:44 AM
Phoenix Wright deserves to sell more. That game is so awesome it's not even funny.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 17, 2006, 10:37:48 AM
If I could find it I'd buy it! >=|
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 17, 2006, 10:56:08 AM
Castlevania and Mario Kart DS so far are my most played DS games.  

There are so many great games for the DS right now, I could care less about even the home consoles.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 17, 2006, 11:11:01 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
Now, if I'm correct, the US numbers do not include Wal*Mart sales at all (and Wal-Mart makes up, like, 35% of all video game sales according to EB and GameStop when they wanted to merge)....
Yeah, but I think they extrapolate, however inaccurate that is..

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shecky on January 17, 2006, 06:34:55 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Sonic Rush is good, despite problems like being unable to properly judge distances in boss fights, deathtraps that can only be avoided through trial and error and of course Sky Chase Zone it is a fun game and Dead Line Zone has to be one of the best Zones I've ever come across. Castlevania beats it for "best DS game" IMO, though.


I'll second this... From what I've played of Sonic thus far, there are way to many deathtraps (bottomless pits) which can be avoided with better level design IMO - especially with all the new stage elements which require you to interact in a certain way or you simply pass right through them to your death.  So good, but not stellar, and *by far* much better than any of the 3D variations.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 17, 2006, 07:13:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
Now, if I'm correct, the US numbers do not include Wal*Mart sales at all (and Wal-Mart makes up, like, 35% of all video game sales according to EB and GameStop when they wanted to merge)....
Yeah, but I think they extrapolate, however inaccurate that is..


To me, who knows very little about how all this works, it seems this would be highly inaccurate.  I would assume that EBGames and such probably sell a higher percentage of Blitz the League and GTA in comparison to SpongeBob's latest adventure - whereas Wal*Mart likely sells much more Nicktoons Unite! and Pokémon Channel than Resident Evil 4 and such.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on January 17, 2006, 07:37:33 PM
"Phoenix Wright deserves to sell more."

I haven't played this game yet, but everyone is telling me how awsome it is. I see Phoenix Wright with his signature pointing pose everywhere on the internet it seems I always had an interest in this game, but sadly I cannot find it anywhere (Same with AC:WW ;_; ). I've heard that Capcom has stoped production on this game. Does anybody know if this is true?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 17, 2006, 09:40:02 PM
Shecky: Especially considering that instadeath traps are supposed to be gone since Sonic 2 (the S1 manual mentioned that some things can kill you even with rings, the S2 and later manuals didn't even mention it).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 18, 2006, 08:34:38 AM
Seriously none of this is new information, everyone knew that the PSP outsold the DS in NA in 2005 (but the DS is still leading due to 2004 sales), while the DS ripped apart the PSP in Japan.

What's interesting is the fact that the GBA manages to beat both systems in NA, which indicates to me Ninty needs to drop the DS to $99 as soon as possible.

How were the PSP sales in Europe in 2005 compared to the DS?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 18, 2006, 08:39:37 AM
Actually I think NOA just needs to advertise that the DS can play GBA games too then maybe they will be able to slowly phase out the GBA(assuming thats what they want to do). Otherwise 3 systems = 3 pillars and it seems to be working out just fine.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 18, 2006, 02:59:34 PM
It's that time of the week again!

Media Create Sales: 9 - 15 Jan

1. NDS Brain Training 2 - 141,307 (845,885)
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS - 50,032 (1,565,251)
3. NDS Brain Training - 49,774 (1,321,504)
4. NDS Mario Kart DS - 39,182 (990,369)
5. PS2 Gun Parade Orchestra - 35,709 NEW
6. PSP Monster Hunter Portable - 34,937 (377,138)
7. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II - 32,880 (1,000,509)
8. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 - 29,639 (260,799)
9. NDS Gentle Brain Exercises - 25,780 (1,023,979)
10. NDS Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop! - 24,550 (870,921)

PSP Monster Hunter appearing from out of nowhere, it wasn't even in the top 10 last week, so it seems the DS shortage is in fact causing lots of people to go out and buy PSP's instead. I think it's quite obvious where the momentum is now, and it's not with DS. Japan was the only place DS was destroying PSP by a massive margin, now its lead is disappearing by the minute and soon it'll be pretty much gone. Way to screw up your one chance Nintendo.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on January 18, 2006, 03:17:58 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

PSP Monster Hunter appearing from out of nowhere, it wasn't even in the top 10 last week, so it seems the DS shortage is in fact causing lots of people to go out and buy PSP's instead. I think it's quite obvious where the momentum is now, and it's not with DS. Japan was the only place DS was destroying PSP by a massive margin, now its lead is disappearing by the minute and soon it'll be pretty much gone. Way to screw up your one chance Nintendo.



looking at monster hunters sales, it looks like one of the best selling psp games out there. to say nintendo is blowing their "one" chance, is a little premature. theres 7 ds titles in the top 10 compared to one for the psp. its complete ds domination.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 18, 2006, 03:26:08 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Cap
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

PSP Monster Hunter appearing from out of nowhere, it wasn't even in the top 10 last week, so it seems the DS shortage is in fact causing lots of people to go out and buy PSP's instead. I think it's quite obvious where the momentum is now, and it's not with DS. Japan was the only place DS was destroying PSP by a massive margin, now its lead is disappearing by the minute and soon it'll be pretty much gone. Way to screw up your one chance Nintendo.



looking at monster hunters sales, it looks like one of the best selling psp games out there. to say nintendo is blowing their "one" chance, is a little premature. theres 7 ds titles in the top 10 compared to one for the psp. its complete ds domination.


Cap, meet Mr. Satire.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2006, 03:40:03 PM
Sarcasm is the invisible emoticon.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on January 18, 2006, 09:18:48 PM
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Sarcasm is the invisible emoticon.

Yes indeed.

Or, wait, was that sarcasm?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 19, 2006, 06:28:16 AM
We really need a Eye roll emoticon or something for sarcasm
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on January 19, 2006, 06:37:54 AM
well it did sort of seem like sarcasm, i saw nothing in the above posts to warrant it. sarcasm is tough to decipher sometimes, especially in a forum.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 19, 2006, 06:40:33 AM
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 19, 2006, 07:48:32 AM
Mario is always commenting how Nintendo si t3h D00M3D! when posting sales numbers.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 19, 2006, 10:54:21 AM
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 19, 2006, 04:06:28 PM
Jap Hardware numbers for last week,

PSP 57,686
DS 54,284
PS2 39,076
GBASP 9,982
GBM 6,341
Xbox360 6,107
GC 5,465
GBA 233
Xbox 119

PSP continues to walk all over Nintendo DS, all those games and Nintendo still can't encourage people to buy the system, I think the obvious reason here is because while Nintendo games sell a lot, they dont make people buy systems for them, those 1.7 million Animal Crossing owners probably dont even have a DS. Of course, Iwata would spin the usual "oh but we're sold out", as Kuturagi would say "Not my problem."

Look at the Xbox 360 momentum, i'm (genuinly) quite surprised at the legs it has, it's passed the GameCube once again and is hot on the heels of the Gameboy Micro and SP. Also note TWO Xbox 360 games entered the top 20 this week, Enchant Arms at #13 and Project Gotham Racing 3 at #18.

(I think Xbox 360 has more games in the top 20 than PSP LOL)

By the way, LAST last weeks numbers that Media Create had PSP ahead of DS, these

PSP - 132,757
DS - 91,379

Have been challenged by Famitsu, they release their numbers a week late, but their numebrs for that same week are.

DS - 125,957
PSP - 125,095

Nintendo un-doomed?

It pretty much comes down to how many DS's they can ship at this point, but i'm shocked and outraged at the massive difference between two different sales trackers, Media Create clearly has a massive bias against Nintendo.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on January 19, 2006, 04:45:18 PM
A little soon for the "Ninty ish teh D00med." DS will be fine unless Nintendo pulls a MS and doesn't ship any consoles for an entire year...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 19, 2006, 07:07:01 PM
Once again Mario's sarcasm seems to be lost on the audience!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 19, 2006, 09:30:04 PM
Sarcasm? Noooo........
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: TrueNerd on January 19, 2006, 09:46:23 PM
As an owner of both PSP and DS, it completely blows me away that this is even a race at this point. When it comes to gaming, there is no doubt that the DS is the superior system. I really don't even feel it's up for debate. I mean, these people have probably been playing their PS2's the last five years. It just shocks me that so many of them are willing to take such a step back in gaming quality in the name of portability. Yes, the PSP is sexy and that screen was designed by God Himself, but where the hell is the substance? It's multimedia capabilities? Lumines is STILL the PSP's only "must play" game and everything else can be found in superior form on consoles. It makes my head hurt thinking about it, but then I remember that these are the same people the enabled Fear Factor to be on the air longer then four episodes, turned Titanic into the highest grossing film of all time, were the reason Paris Hilton became a pop cultural touchstone, and are why boy bands were allowed to LIVE. How irritating.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2006, 12:36:44 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

read post above.

LOL LOL
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 20, 2006, 08:00:13 AM
Apparently the DS stocks are low in the UK as well with recent reports putting DS past the 1 mil mark in jolly ol' england.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on January 21, 2006, 07:15:06 AM
"Between October 31 and January 15, the site reports that Sony's widescreen handheld sold 972 thousand units during that period. By comparison, the DS sold 2.33 million units during the same period. "

Thats an excert from a article at gamespot.   http://www.gamespot.com/news/6142782.html

they also state that ds's are being raised in price in japan, becouse of lack of stock. i've never heard of a system that is as old as the ds being in such short supply, and subject to double the retail price becouse of it. thats actually why i wasnt sure if mario was being sarcastic or not. personally, i do find it kind of ridiculous that nintendo cant get enough of a year and a half old system on the shelves. good news that it is selling so well though.

 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on January 21, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
Age is somewhat irrelevant when the product uses an LCD. Screen manufacturers have been in a crunch to churn them out for years now, and that demand will just go up as consumers begin adopting HD with large LCDs.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: burninator1992 on January 21, 2006, 02:35:26 PM
yo mario are you there?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Informant on January 21, 2006, 02:46:03 PM


Maaaaaaaaaario!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ending Walker Tropic on January 21, 2006, 08:16:34 PM
Hay where's Luigi?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2006, 08:52:16 PM
Did you not see the post above you? GEEEEEZ!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ending Walker Tropic on January 21, 2006, 11:54:48 PM
Yeah but I get lost easily. And I hope he's not stuck there forever!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 25, 2006, 11:13:05 AM
DS back on top in Japan!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 25, 2006, 01:16:34 PM
Media Create 16 Jan - 22 Jan

1 NDS Motto Otona no DS Training (Nintendo): 100,538 (946,423)
2 NDS Oideyo Dobutsu no Mori (Nintendo): 79,363 (1,644,614)
3 GCN Super Mario Strikers (Nintendo): 74,209 (74,209)
4 NDS Otona no DS Training (Nintendo): 48,833 (1,370,336)
5 NDS Mario Kart DS (Nintendo): 37821 (1,028,190)
6 PSP Monster Hunter Portable (Capcom): 28,513 (405,651)
7 NDS Tamagochi no PuchiPuchi Missechi (Bandai): 22,843 (893,764)
8 NDS Biohazard Deadly Silence (Capcom): 20,380 (20,380)
9 NDS Yawaraka Atama (Nintendo): 19,319 (1,043,298)
10 NDS Mario & Luigi RPG 2 (Nintendo): 18,669 (279,468)

Hardware

DS: 64,515 (210,177, total since January 1st 2006)
PSP: 38,271 (228,714)
PS2: 26,271 (146,097)
GBASP: 7,912 (35,338)
GBM: 4,653 (22,813)
GC: 4,490 (23,378)
X360: 3,616 (17,200
GBA: 236 (1,033)
Xbox: 83 (358)

DS back on top indeed... I have nothing to say now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 25, 2006, 02:03:33 PM
MKS has passed one million! Yay! The DS Training will next week! Yay!

Wait a sec...do I see NINE of the top ten games being Nintendo!?!?!?!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 25, 2006, 02:06:51 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
MKS has passed one million! Yay! The DS Training will next week! Yay!

Wait a sec...do I see NINE of the top ten games being Nintendo!?!?!?!


More surprisingly, do I see ONE of the top ten games being on PSP!?!?!?!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 25, 2006, 02:42:13 PM
DS is 18,537 units behind the PSP for 2006! teh d00m!</mario>  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JonLeung on January 26, 2006, 12:23:35 PM
New colours typically boost sales, so the DS Lite should also boost sales too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 26, 2006, 01:05:29 PM
I expect the DS Lite to cause a huge commotion.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 26, 2006, 01:56:07 PM
Meanwhile, DS sales will drop massively right now before it hits while everyone waits for it, which means the PSP may retain it's lead, then from that get momentum and then that's it for Nintendo. Also, they can say GOODBYE to third party support now, I think Resident Evil DS has become the lowest selling new Resident Evil title of all time.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on January 26, 2006, 02:16:33 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
More surprisingly, do I see ONE of the top ten games being on PSP!?!?!?!


So it would seem, but I was too busy noticing that every other game on the list is for the DS except Strikers (which I was also happy to see)....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 26, 2006, 02:44:54 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Meanwhile, DS sales will drop massively right now before it hits while everyone waits for it, which means the PSP may retain it's lead, then from that get momentum and then that's it for Nintendo. Also, they can say GOODBYE to third party support now, I think Resident Evil DS has become the lowest selling new Resident Evil title of all time.


I love your sarcasm, it's always spot on.



Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Noble~Feather on January 26, 2006, 10:20:07 PM
I really think the Lite was a bad idea. They should release it when DS sales start to slow down. DS is selling fine at the moment.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 27, 2006, 12:18:15 AM
well, well, look whos back...

anyway this re-design is more to reel in the fence sitters that have been waiting(such as myself) and also as an early Revolution tie-in promotion. We all know that the DS is going to play atleast a small part into the Rev connectability(is that a word?), so what better way to make it known than to make them look alike?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 27, 2006, 01:38:19 AM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14331
Quote

According to Nintendo president Satoru Iwata, the company is confident that the DS will continue to sell well as 2006 unfolds. Speaking to the Japanese press, Iwata said: "Taken as a whole with the current version, we're aiming at total domestic sales of 10,000,000 units not too late in the year."

Basically Nintendo expects DS to sell an average of over 100,000 systems a week in the slow period of the year, which would be absolutely phenomenal, it's on track to outsell PS2 and if Nintendo gives it a good lifespan it could become the highest selling system of all time.

... and they still haven't shown Pokemon.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 27, 2006, 04:09:21 AM
Correction...

...and they still haven't shown Pokémon... online.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on January 27, 2006, 05:58:27 AM
I hope some of this Japanese domination will translate into improved sales in North America.
I think they could have waited a little longer for a redesign, too, but it may be a good strategy now considering the PSP is winning in North America.  I wonder if the redesign was being pushed by NOA?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 27, 2006, 06:19:10 AM
I hope some of this Japanese domination will translate into improved sales in North America.

It means more japanese third party support which means more games. That should translate into more western sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 27, 2006, 07:14:07 AM
The DS lite and Pokemon combined will equal huge sales in NA.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 27, 2006, 07:15:35 AM
Despite idiotic analysis stating otherwise, I really think this year will see the DS conclusively pull ahead in North America. With the DSLIte, the sexiness factor will be gone. The GBA will also finally get retired, and those sales should translate at least 50%-75% into DS sales. The reason the PSP has held up against the DS here is because the GBA hasn't been officially replace. This year should see that happen, and that'll spell the end of the PSP's competitive streak.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on January 27, 2006, 08:29:07 AM
The PSP isn't winning in North America
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 27, 2006, 01:50:32 PM
But if they phase out the GBA, newcomers who buy a DS wont have any multiplayer capabilities.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on January 27, 2006, 01:56:37 PM
"But if they phase out the GBA, newcomers who buy a DS wont have any multiplayer capabilities."

I doubt there are any DS owners that specifically went out and bought a GBA JUST to play multiplayer.  Anyone who cares probably already has a GBA or is knowledgable enough with gaming to know the GBA is on it's last legs.  The sort of people who are totally oblivious to the fact that the GBA is on the way out and are incapable of tracking down a used system years from now don't even KNOW about the multiplayer issue.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on January 27, 2006, 05:23:54 PM
or all the poor kids who dont have money to buya  new system until its last year or two.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 30, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
According to Gamasutra the DS is outselling the PSP in spain and seems to be doing better all across Europe, even the UK.



gamasutra
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 01, 2006, 02:27:16 PM
Media Create 23 Jan - 29 Jan

01 PS2 Final Fantasy 7 DC - 392,000 / 392,000
02 NDS English Training DS - 242,000 / 242,000
03 PS2 Shin Onimusha - 226,000 / 226,000
04 NDS Adult DS Training 2 - 111,000 / 1,057,000
05 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 80,000 / 1,724,000
06 NDS Adult DS Training - 71,000 / 1,441,000
07 PS2 Ar Tonelico - 54,000 / 54,000
08 NDS Bleach DS - 36,000 / 36,000
09 NDS Mario Kart DS - 29,000 / 1,058,000
10 PS2 Winning Eleven 9 Bonus Pack - 28,000 / 28,000

If even some lame FF7 knock off can destroy every DS game released, Nintendo doesn't have a chance when the BIG PSP and PS2 games hit. Nintendo has been lucky the past few months, Sony has been asleep, but now the DS has died down massively and PS2 is coming back. This means PSP isn't too far behind, PS2 has the momentum now and Sony are going to no doubt shift that PS2 momentum to the PSP. With Bleach flopping and English Training doing well it's clear nobody new is buying a DS, the userbase should stay exactly how it is for a long time. I also predict the PSP outsold the DS in hardware this week since anyone wanting a DS will wait for the DS Lite, and by the time the DS Lite hits stores that list will be completely PS2 and PSP following current trends, things aren't looking good for Iwata and co. right now.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 01, 2006, 03:09:20 PM
Also, last weeks French chart

1. Dead or Alive 4 (Microsoft, Xbox 360)
2. Nintendogs : Labrador (Nintendo, NDS)
3. Nintendogs : Teckel (Nintendo, NDS)
4. Grand Theft Auto : San Andreas platinum (Take 2, PS2)
5. Grand Theft Auto : Liberty City Stories (Take 2, PSP)
6. Mario Kart DS (Nintendo, NDS)
7. Mario Party 7 (Nintendo, GC)
8. Need For Speed Most Wanted (EA, PS2)
9. Pro Evolution Soccer 5 (Konami, PS2)
10. Mario & Luigi : Partners in Time (Nintendo, NDS)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 01, 2006, 03:49:59 PM
Could that frigging DS English training pass a million too!? Almost a quarter of the way there in 6 days is crazy for a game with like three other counterparts. Wow, talk about a runaway!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 01, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
Not to mention it took less than 6 months to make and probably had a cheaper budget than the price of an Xbox 360.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 01, 2006, 04:45:15 PM
Those bastards at Nintendo! They're milking the Brain Training franchise for all it's worth.. soon NO ONE will buy it, and the DS will come crashing to a halt.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on February 01, 2006, 04:49:25 PM
no hardware numbers yet? I wonder of the DS lite announcement made an impact on unit sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on February 01, 2006, 08:54:23 PM
Adding the Street fighter costumes to Shin Onimusha was a good idea. It sold pretty decently.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 02, 2006, 04:39:39 AM
I've heard the English training game technically isn't part of the brain training series, although it doesn't make much difference...

I'm quite surprised at the success of all these "training" games.  It seems like Nintendo tried some titles like this on the Game Boy, but I never saw any of them take off.  If I had to admit being biased against a certain type of game, it would be these types...it's like homework in videogame form, blah!  Sports games take a close second.

Still, congratulations Nintendo.  It probably cost udner $1 million to make each of the Brain Training games and they're all million sellers now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on February 02, 2006, 05:33:19 AM
under $1million? try under $250,000.

...

no, you were probably more accurate
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2006, 06:24:55 AM
Milking Brain Training probably isn't a bad idea for now.  Those games probably attract an audience far different then the typical gamer.  The people who bought a DS for Brain Training might only be interested in those types of games.  Stuff like Mario Kart isn't going to interest them.

Though Nintendo is going to need a different type of "non-game" to take off to keep the momentum going.  Eventually the novelty will wear off.  I think that's a problem with non-gamers in general.  They're not passionate about gaming so they'll get bored and lose interest far quicker.  They more or less have to be constantly distracted.  With a hardcore gamer, gaming is their main interest so you don't have to compete with other forms of entertainment as much.  But if someone only has a casual interest in games movies, books, music, etc are going to be stiffer competition for their attention.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2006, 07:58:45 AM
Brain Training 1 & 2 both break 1 million
New Brain training 1/4 million in one week
*US Brain Training releases @ $19.99*
Animal Crossing & Mario Kart both break 1 million
SM64DS & Wario Ware have broken 1million

 

un-official #'s

hardware
NDS 106,000
PSP 30,000

total softwares sold this week (softwares from 3rd parties)
DS 710,000 (95,000)
PSP 78,000 (62,000)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 02, 2006, 10:04:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane

Though Nintendo is going to need a different type of "non-game" to take off to keep the momentum going.  Eventually the novelty will wear off.  I think that's a problem with non-gamers in general.  They're not passionate about gaming so they'll get bored and lose interest far quicker.
Ahh yes, Ian, the final authority on everything. "Non-gamers are not passionate" and you'd be one to know, right? "The novelty will wear off" where have I heard that one before... oh yea, about the DS!

You need to be more accepting of your fellow gamers and non gamers ian and lose the idea that "gaming" can only be done one way.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2006, 10:33:12 AM
"'Non-gamers are not passionate' and you'd be one to know, right?"

I'm just basing that assumption on anything else I've been interested in that has had a boom period where non-fans took a casual interest in something.  Hell sometimes I've been in that group of non-fans.  Typically it doesn't last long.  It's a fad.  The casuals come in, enjoy themselves for a while, get bored, and leave.  Of course non-gamers aren't passionate about gaming.  By definition they are people not interested in gaming.  That's the group Nintendo is trying to grab.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 02, 2006, 12:02:45 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane

I'm just basing that assumption on anything else I've been interested in that has had a boom period where non-fans took a casual interest in something.
Sure you can point to lots fads that have puffed up then dissapeared. MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Tamagotchi, Furby, Beanie Babies, Game Gear, Lynx, NES Power Glove, GBA-GCN link cable games, Hoola Hoops, Disco, Bell bottoms, BeeHive hairdo, etc... But there are just as many fads that have instead become common culture. I mean what about Elvis and his music and gyrations? Rock & Roll was essentially non-music back then. It was too different for traditonals to accept. Considered crap, by everyone but teenagers. Yet, now its common culture. What about Pokemon? That certainly was a fad game, back in the day. What about video games in general? Or the Personal Computer? Apple? Ipod? MP3? Nintendo? GameBoy? Anime?

So why are you so glum on Video Games aren't video games as we've known them? I think you're being just a bit to judgemental.

Quote

Of course non-gamers aren't passionate about gaming.  By definition they are people not interested in gaming. That's the group Nintendo is trying to grab.
By definition, really? Or do they just like different games? Rather like how there are "Gamers" and then there are "Nintendo gamers". Both are very passionate. I don't see why there can't be a third group who likes video games that are not traditional and become very passionate. No reason why each has to be mutually exclusive. I mean after all if you are a "Gamer" you can also be a "Nintendo gamer" and vice versa. So i'm sure there are plenty of "gamers" who will really be passionate about so called "non-games".  And I'm sure there will be "non-gamers" that discover "gaming". So I really don't think its necessary to be quite so dismissive, its win win either way.

 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 02, 2006, 12:14:16 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I'm just basing that assumption on anything else I've been interested in that has had a boom period where non-fans took a casual interest in something.  Hell sometimes I've been in that group of non-fans.  Typically it doesn't last long.  It's a fad.  The casuals come in, enjoy themselves for a while, get bored, and leave.  Of course non-gamers aren't passionate about gaming.  By definition they are people not interested in gaming.  That's the group Nintendo is trying to grab.


You are basing your assumption on that fact that we're too stupid to realize you're just trying to cover the fact that you were dead wrong about Nintendo's strategy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2006, 01:09:48 PM
My main example for my assumption is wrestling.  I'm a big wrestling fan.  In 1996 I knew very few people you watched wrestling.  In 1998 almost everyone I knew did.  By 2001 hardly anyone I knew was still interested.  It had a boom where all sorts of traditionally non-fans were watching wrestling.  The WWF in particular started promoting a type of wrestling that was very different then before and attracted a lot of non-fans.  But gradually the novelty wore off and a lot of those fans didn't stick around.  Those fans were never really that interested to begin with.  The WWF grabbed those fans by putting less emphasis on wrestling in the traditional sense but there was no real passion.  Once the newness wore off the casual fans weren't interested anymore.  It's an example of a cult interest becoming a mainstream fad.

I see a lot of simularities between Nitnendo's situation and that example.  Gaming is largely a cult interest and like the WWF Nintendo is trying to attract the mainstream audience with games that are different then the traditional design.

And I'm not wrong about Nintendo's strategy until it proves to be successful in North America.  We still have to see if Brain Training is a big hit over here.  We still have to see if this strategy is going to work on the Rev, which unlike the DS can't ride on the momentum of a market dominating predecessor.  I was wrong about the DS getting creamed by the PSP but that's not the same thing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 02, 2006, 05:30:27 PM
Not to change the subject...but WWE is doing outstanding in the ratings nowadays. They've been #1 on cable since moving back to USA I believe, Smackdown is usually in the top 5 on Fridays. So...maybe the non-gamers will come to the DS, play a while, get bored and stop, then after a long time of non-gaming they'll pick up their DS, see the latest non-gamer-game, and start playing again. Thus the circle of life starts anew...someone cue the Elton John music. Basically, what I'm trying to say is Rey Mysterio's going to lose his title shot to Randy Orton at WWE No Way Out (I was at the RAW/Smackdown! Supershow this past Monday...second row seats, mmmmm!). I'm gonna go not play some games now...or am I?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 02, 2006, 08:11:27 PM
I don't think you can really relate wrestling to this situation.. it's a whole different dynamic. Wrestling has always been a boom-and-bust industry. Also, when the fans went away from wrestling, you're right that it was partly because of the novelty wearing off, but in many cases it's because the product itself worsened. I hate WWE TV shows these days because they focus too much on entertainment, and the little wrestling present is a lot worse nowdays. They push the wrong guys, and their storylines are just awful. It seems like they're desperately trying every week to get a high quarter-hour rating through shock value. Combine this all with horrifyingly distasteful skits and promos (JR surgery thing, exploiting Eddie for heat,  etc) and it's a mess.

And, Brandogg, in fact, since they moved to USA, the ratings were dipping and after the Homecoming they were dangerously low. That's why you see the McMahons more and more (another thing I dislike). The past month the ratings increased because of Edge as the new champion, their "live sex scene", the main event TLC with Flair, and because it's fresh after Cena's reign.

So how the hell does this relate to games again? Hmm.. Oh right. OK, so as I was saying, fans go away if the product is bad. I think that if Nintendo can keep its consistent quality, the nongamers who have been attracted will stay. I also think that the nongamers will try out "gamer games" and they might be pulled in to enjoy traditional games. They bought a DS with Nintendogs or Brain Training or whatever. Now they have an expensive system with only one or two games. So they would be inclined to try out some of the other offerings, and they could get hooked. I know my dad (who plays rarely since the NES era) started off with the minigames in SM64DS, and he tried Kirby and loved it. He plays some of my traditional games quite a bit these days, and it's all thanks to the DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 03, 2006, 12:45:46 AM
DS 106,081
PSP 30,657
PS2 24,580
GBASP 5,946
GBM 3,042
GC 3,036
Xbox360 1,976
GBA 179
Xbox 128
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 03, 2006, 01:03:26 AM
just because the DS outsold every other platform combined, doesn't mean that it is out of the clear just yet... right? Mario....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 03, 2006, 01:54:48 AM
Nowhere near in the clear, especially when you look at Nintendos other handhelds. The GBA / GBM are getting caught up to by GameCube, which has been dead for almost two years, yet the PS2 is still going strong. This is a startling example of the lifecycles of Sony systems vs Nintendo systems, and it's only a matter of time before DS dies down and PSP catches up. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

DS is just having it's moment, and when the DS Lite hits everyone will be pissed and never buy a Nintendo product again, that is if they haven't already forgotten about the DS by then, which means the Revolution is pretty much done for before it's even been released.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2006, 06:44:41 AM
"Not to change the subject...but WWE is doing outstanding in the ratings nowadays."

I doubt the ratings are as good as they were in 1998 and ratings aren't a measure of success in wrestling.  PPV buyrates and house show attendence are and those have been down for years.

"Also, when the fans went away from wrestling, you're right that it was partly because of the novelty wearing off, but in many cases it's because the product itself worsened."

The quality does play a part so it's not a perfect example.  Hell I love wrestling and I'm not watching any current wrestling shows right now.  I'm getting my fix entirely from catching up on old stuff I missed the first time around.  One thing that I hate about the WWE is the lack of wrestling, yet that is exactly what brought the mainstream fans in in the first place.  They brought non-fans in with sports entertainment and that's pretty much all that they're doing now.  If you're a non-fan that started watching in 1998 odds are the WWE is still doing the same sort of stuff that got you interested back then.  Only now it's stale and it's boring and you've found something else to do.

I really see gaming in the same light.  Gaming is a successful industry but it's still very cult.  Like being a wrestling fan, being a gamer carries somewhat of stigma to it and some people just form a negative opinion about you because of it.  It's very popular but it's never really accepted by the mainstream and I don't think that will permanently change.  Typically if your plan to attract the mainstream involves changing the product to get them interested you're not going to be able to sustain that interest because the basic fundamentals of the interest isn't what's attracting them but rather an alteration.  If you have to change gaming to get people to game then you're really not actually getting them to game per say.  Though it does depend on how drastic of a change it is and exactly what is being downplayed or removed to grab the non-fans.  I think the key to Nintendo permanently attracting the non-gamers is if those that buy Brain Training are also buying and loving Mario Kart, Castlevania, and Advance Wars.  They have to enjoy the games made for gamers as well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on February 03, 2006, 06:55:02 AM
those sales numbers are pretty supriing to me......i thought that sales for the ds might go down a bit with the ds lite being announced. i'm way too lazy to check if the ds lite was announced before the date those figures are for though.

the ratings for WWE are under half of what they were in 1997-98. i actually despise WWE at the moment. Crappy storylines and bad wrestling are destroying the product. they need to give their wrestlers more freedom on the mike and in the ring. TNA(on spike tv) is putting out a far superior product at the moment(at least in my opinion). The storylines are a little lacking, but thats due to the fact that they only have an hour of television time a week. supposedly they might me moving to thursdays and getting some more time which should help them out.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on February 03, 2006, 08:14:43 AM
Don't you guys have a super-secret wrestling forum to discuss this on?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem of Darcness on February 03, 2006, 12:45:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Not to change the subject...but WWE is doing outstanding in the ratings nowadays."

I doubt the ratings are as good as they were in 1998 and ratings aren't a measure of success in wrestling.  PPV buyrates and house show attendence are and those have been down for years.

"Also, when the fans went away from wrestling, you're right that it was partly because of the novelty wearing off, but in many cases it's because the product itself worsened."

The quality does play a part so it's not a perfect example.  Hell I love wrestling and I'm not watching any current wrestling shows right now.  I'm getting my fix entirely from catching up on old stuff I missed the first time around.  One thing that I hate about the WWE is the lack of wrestling, yet that is exactly what brought the mainstream fans in in the first place.  They brought non-fans in with sports entertainment and that's pretty much all that they're doing now.  If you're a non-fan that started watching in 1998 odds are the WWE is still doing the same sort of stuff that got you interested back then.  Only now it's stale and it's boring and you've found something else to do.

I really see gaming in the same light.  Gaming is a successful industry but it's still very cult.  Like being a wrestling fan, being a gamer carries somewhat of stigma to it and some people just form a negative opinion about you because of it.  It's very popular but it's never really accepted by the mainstream and I don't think that will permanently change.  Typically if your plan to attract the mainstream involves changing the product to get them interested you're not going to be able to sustain that interest because the basic fundamentals of the interest isn't what's attracting them but rather an alteration.  If you have to change gaming to get people to game then you're really not actually getting them to game per say.  Though it does depend on how drastic of a change it is and exactly what is being downplayed or removed to grab the non-fans.  I think the key to Nintendo permanently attracting the non-gamers is if those that buy Brain Training are also buying and loving Mario Kart, Castlevania, and Advance Wars.  They have to enjoy the games made for gamers as well.


I know this is off topic, but Ian you should check ou NWA:TNA wrestling. If you want to see real wrestling its the only game in town. WWE is just trash right now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 03, 2006, 02:21:10 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Don't you guys have a super-secret wrestling forum to discuss this on?
No, Rick shut it down..

EDIT: And Requiem, Ian probably has seen TNA.. but I'd say he has the same problem as I do.. I badly wanted TNA to be the alternative to WWE that focused on wrestling and has solid performers, matches and storylines without stooping to WWE's entertainment stuff. But I don't watch TNA either these days.. And it's because they haven't become the promotion I wanted them to. Jeff Jarrett is a big reason for this; he's holding the whole roster back by wanting to protect himself while he isn't even that good. And another thing is that they aren't promoting the X-Division. It's far and away better than the heavyweight division, and I really like it, but TNA just doesn't seem to realise that and they don't give it the time it deserves..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 03, 2006, 04:23:52 PM
There's no way the ratings are uner half. They're at like 75-80%. They've been doing around 4-4.5 for the past couple months, and they've never gone higher than a 6.0, IIRC. Maybe if you factor in when WCW was around and they both did between 3 and 5 in the ratings, then all wrestling combined maybe did double what WWE does now. TNA sucks. I wanted it to be good, and it was good for a while, but it sucks now...even with Sting...because Sting sucks. They should make a WWE game for the DS, that could have potential. Supposedly TNA is making a console game, but their roster changes every 2 weeks, so it's gonna be tough.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 03, 2006, 05:35:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Requiem of Darcness

I know this is off topic, but Ian you should check ou NWA:TNA wrestling.
TNA? Tits 'N Ass wrestling?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 03, 2006, 06:03:23 PM
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The GBA / GBM are getting caught up to by GameCube, which has been dead for almost two years, yet the PS2 is still going strong


We all knew it was only a matter of time before the GBA just ran out of gas, it just lacks the qualuities needed to be a success

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This is a startling example of the lifecycles of Sony systems vs Nintendo systems, and it's only a matter of time before DS dies down and PSP catches up. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.


Thank god, I mean what was nintendo thinking, two screens, don't they realize people just want the shinier graphics.

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DS is just having it's moment, and when the DS Lite hits everyone will be pissed and never buy a Nintendo product again, that is if they haven't already forgotten about the DS by then, which means the Revolution is pretty much done for before it's even been released.


Well duh, just look at the horrible micro sales, nintendo tried to milk their systems too much and its going to bite them with the DS lite.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Caterkiller on February 03, 2006, 07:58:16 PM
Once again Mario was being sarcastic, and someone doesn't catch it. And isn't the Micro like only for a limit of time or something? I know they won't be mass produced forever like the other 2 GBA models.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 03, 2006, 08:34:38 PM
Once again, someone doesn't catch the double-dose of sarcasm.
You got served.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 03, 2006, 09:43:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Once again, someone doesn't catch the double-dose of sarcasm.
You got served.


Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on February 04, 2006, 07:11:10 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
There's no way the ratings are uner half. They're at like 75-80%. They've been doing around 4-4.5 for the past couple months, and they've never gone higher than a 6.0, IIRC. Maybe if you factor in when WCW was around and they both did between 3 and 5 in the ratings, then all wrestling combined maybe did double what WWE does now. TNA sucks. I wanted it to be good, and it was good for a while, but it sucks now...even with Sting...because Sting sucks. They should make a WWE game for the DS, that could have potential. Supposedly TNA is making a console game, but their roster changes every 2 weeks, so it's gonna be tough.



the ratings didnt hit as high as i thought, but they've hit over 6 many times(a quick google search shows they hit over 8 a few times). what do you mean about the roster changes? TNA(total non-stop action) has a fairly good and stable roster...they just dont have enough time on tv to show them all.

as for a wwe game for the ds, i'm actually suprised there isnt one yet.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 04, 2006, 07:13:01 AM
The wrestling analysis is very very poor. With wrestling you have to tune in every single week to keep the ratings up. With your DS, you only have to purchase it once. DS numbers can't go down after they go up.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 04, 2006, 08:31:23 AM
Yeah, wrestling is a bad analysis. Here's a better one: Comic books. The mainstream comic books have catered almost exclusively to their hardcore base for the past 10 years and the US comic book market continues to shrink and shrink.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 04, 2006, 08:39:39 AM
That makes no sense either, because you have to continuously buy comic books! Once you own a system you never need to rebuy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 04, 2006, 09:25:06 AM
Tell that to a PS2 owner

Irregardless, comic books are individual products that the consumer purchases. video game consoles and video games are individual products as well.

ergo, Artimus is a four colored turtle!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 04, 2006, 10:12:20 AM
Games is a more valid comparison, but system sales is what gets the most publicity and that's a one time thing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2006, 09:08:27 PM
"irregardless"? I.e. "with regard"?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 04, 2006, 10:54:13 PM
Yes, with regard to my point about catering to the hardcore fanbase results in a shrinking market.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on February 05, 2006, 11:30:24 PM
Apparently the DS is sold out in Japan AGAIN

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 06, 2006, 01:20:57 AM
Why is that a good thing? We don't need PSP fanboys in here rubbing our faces into the fact that Nintendo is horrible at shipping DS's. Next weeks sales will probably have PSP in front by a landslide, which will further increase Sonys lead. Nintendo's chance to catch up is almost blown.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on February 06, 2006, 01:57:21 AM
Mario...shut up.  I don't even know what's sarcasm anymore.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 06, 2006, 01:58:54 AM
Yeah but DS has been doomed in Japan for ages now, bad sales next week aren't going to be much of a shock when PSP has been kicking its arse time and time again since launch. Not even a fully fledged Pokemon game could save it now.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on February 06, 2006, 02:48:51 AM
In Australia EB are offering the PSP with 2 totally crap (well just oz rules football highlights which you can pick up on DVD for like $5 each) and 2 craptastic games for $399 AUD.  

The fact Sony are offering these bundles so soon after lauch here may mean it aint selling all that well.

In Kmart and Target the shelves are full with PSP movies and only a few games.

For comparison the DS with Nintendogs or Mario Cart is selling for between 175-190 AUD.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 06, 2006, 06:30:02 AM
Late on the response but...

"I know this is off topic, but Ian you should check ou NWA:TNA wrestling. If you want to see real wrestling its the only game in town."

I've checked it out and I don't really like it.  I hate the six-sided ring, I hate the studio audience atmosphere (smarky crowds with stupid chants piss me off), and I hate the emphasis on Jeff Jarrett.  TNA claims to be an alternative but, like WCW was at it's worse, deep down it's WWE lite.  There's still tons of run-ins and weak swerves and non-clean finishes and the general sports entertainment bullsh!t that's made me bored of WWE.  The WWE's big weaknesses are that they force everyone to wrestle the same "WWE style", they rely on stale sports entertainment stuff like non-clean finishes and evil owners, they have too much non-wrestling content, and they have no idea how to make interesting storylines anymore.  A true alternative to the WWE would exploit these weaknesses by doing what the WWE has forgotten how to do and by eliminating the stale rehashed ideas that have gotten boring.  TNA's X-division is the only thing I feel really seperates them from WWE and even that needs a lot of work.  It's hard to get into because most of the X-division guys have bland personalities and, while being good at flippy-floppy stuff, don't grasp enough psychology to make their matches really memorable.  Right now YouTube provides my wrestling fix as I've found a lot of cool matches I've never seen on there.

Anyhoo getting back to the DS, it's not a one-time purchase.  The system is a one-time purchase but Nintendo doesn't benefit much (if at all) from people just buying the system.  The real money comes from games and that like a comic book or a TV show is a periodical purchase.  If Nintendo sells a DS to a non-gamer and a copy of Brain Training and then nothing else they haven't really grabbed that person.  It's important that the userbase of a system buys games on a regular basis.  You want them to be gamers in that gaming is a hobby and they buy at least one game a year.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 06, 2006, 06:41:43 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Why is that a good thing? We don't need PSP fanboys in here rubbing our faces into the fact that Nintendo is horrible at shipping DS's. Next weeks sales will probably have PSP in front by a landslide, which will further increase Sonys lead. Nintendo's chance to catch up is almost blown.


What are you talking about?!?

The DS has been dead in Japan since the end of 2005, c'mon mario you're slipping.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on February 06, 2006, 10:56:52 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane


Anyhoo getting back to the DS, it's not a one-time purchase.  The system is a one-time purchase but Nintendo doesn't benefit much (if at all) from people just buying the system.  The real money comes from games and that like a comic book or a TV show is a periodical purchase.  If Nintendo sells a DS to a non-gamer and a copy of Brain Training and then nothing else they haven't really grabbed that person.  It's important that the userbase of a system buys games on a regular basis.  You want them to be gamers in that gaming is a hobby and they buy at least one game a year.



Wrong. Other releases like English training will sell to these people. Very usefull for the Japanese when they travel, I hope they make other languages available. Plus:

- If not selling the console at a loss even one or 2 softwares gives them profit
-  It allows retailers to shift units off the shelf
-  It assists in invreasing the nuber of units sold at a faster rate to allow for the development cost to be recovered quicker, in turn allowing for new models (ie DS Lite) to be released.
- If people buy things like English training which the use for travel then they will probably buy at least one game to play especially if they travel by plane.
- If they stop using the DS for non games this will get handed down to other family members who may use it for gaming.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2006, 01:58:32 AM
30 Jan - 5 Feb

01 NDS English Training - 109,481 / 351,924
02 NDS DS Brain Training 2 - 86,234 / 1,143,195
03 NDS Animal Crossing - 68,599/ 1,792,728
04 PS2 Tourist Trophy - 59,654 / 59,654
05 PS2 Shin Onimusha - 49,472 / 275,806
06 NDS DS Brain Training - 47,701 / 1,488,761
07 PS2 Final Fantasy DC - 44,947 - 437,116
08 NDS Eyeshield 21 - 36,811 / 36,811
09 PS2 Nobnaga's Ambition - 36,675 / 36,675
10 NDS Mario Kart DS - 22,613 / 1,080,168
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on February 09, 2006, 02:06:39 AM
That's less DS games than usual.

Still extraordinary, of course.

But less.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 09, 2006, 02:20:54 AM
Final Fantasy DC is dropping pretty quickly.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on February 09, 2006, 02:42:10 AM
>03 NDS Animal Crossing - 68,599/ 1,792,728

Dang... Any other handheld game ever do this well?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 09, 2006, 02:53:31 AM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
>03 NDS Animal Crossing - 68,599/ 1,792,728

Dang... Any other handheld game ever do this well?
GameBoy Tetris?

Animal Crossing is near 2 million now... First DS game to sell 2 million copies?

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2006, 02:59:31 AM
Probably just Pokemon and Tetris. Animal Crossings success is pretty much limited to Japan though, everywhere else Nintendo screwed up HUGE by not taking it seriously / not shipping enough.

HARDWARE!

PSP: 25,905 (285,276)
DS: 25,321 (341,579)
PS2: 24,780 (195,456)
GBASP: 5,649 (46,933)
GBM: 3,199 (29,654)
Xbox 360: 2,194 (21,370)
GC: 2,138 (28,552)
GBA: 115 (1328)
Xbox: 101 (587)

Welp, too late, DS is already dead. Sony absolutely humiliated Nintendo this week, that's some serious PSP domination. Also Xbox 360 has overtaken GC, the momentum is with everyone except Nintendo, and they only have themselves to blame.

It's been over a MONTH of shortages, they better have 1 million DS Lites in stores day 1 otherwise people are just going to stop caring. This is absolutely ridiculous, and i'm being serious in this paragraph.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on February 09, 2006, 03:30:41 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
GameBoy Tetris?

Animal Crossing is near 2 million now... First DS game to sell 2 million copies?


I'd assume that it's already sold over 2 Million world wide...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2006, 03:33:00 AM
Nintendogs is currently the best selling DS game worldwide, it has passed 4 million now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 09, 2006, 03:33:48 AM
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It's been over a MONTH of shortages, they better have 1 million DS Lites in stores day 1 otherwise people are just going to stop caring. This is absolutely ridiculous, and i'm being serious in this paragraph.


Sony has proved shortages aren't an issue. Unless the PSP starts spiking, there's not the slighest need to be concerned.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 09, 2006, 05:05:12 AM
Well it would be better not to have shortages, but I don't think people are going to stop caring as long as Nintendo keeps tempting them with Tetris and Super Mario Bros. DS, not to mention all the games that are already available.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 09, 2006, 05:12:35 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Sony has proved shortages aren't an issue. Unless the PSP starts spiking, there's not the slighest need to be concerned.


There's a greater danger that people will start spiking PSPs, actually.

I've heard stories about people not being able to return them and videotaping their aggression on the unit.

–SB
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JonLeung on February 09, 2006, 05:15:03 AM
Sorry if this is old, but where does CNN.com get their info?  It was a week or two ago when they said PSPs have sold half a million more than the DS.  That doesn't seem likely...is it?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 10, 2006, 08:00:07 AM
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Sorry if this is old, but where does CNN.com get their info? It was a week or two ago when they said PSPs have sold half a million more than the DS. That doesn't seem likely...is it?


not WW they haven't, they sold more PSP's in NA in 2005, but since the DS was out in 2004 the DS still has a small lead.

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It's been over a MONTH of shortages, they better have 1 million DS Lites in stores day 1 otherwise people are just going to stop caring. This is absolutely ridiculous, and i'm being serious in this paragraph.


Dear god Mario is serious...RUN!!!

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 10, 2006, 12:06:24 PM
NDS beat the PS2 in Japan in 2005.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144079.html
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlkPaladin on February 10, 2006, 07:21:28 PM
Some good information comes from this article also. Quite a few people are waiting for the DS Lite. I don't think the supply problems will be cured until the Lite comes out in a few weeks in Japan. Because there is little chance that Nintendo will increase the production of the older model that will be phased out as the new one comes in so most of their resources are going into making the DS Lite.

In two weeks of availblity the DS took the lead and may keep it until the new device comes out. Since the PSP doesn't look like it going over 50k a week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 12, 2006, 02:22:43 PM
Jan US NPD Hardware

PlayStation 2 272,000
Xbox 360 249,000
PlayStation Portable 179,000
Game Boy Advance 172,000
Nintendo DS 158,000
Xbox 89,000
GameCube 66,000

Holy crap, PSP > GBA, Sonys takeover of the handheld market has officially STARTED. DS is pretty much out of the picture now too, and Xbox has overtaken GC again and killed any momentum Nintendo hoped to carry. I think the US is starting to be the country with the worst taste in games.

Xbox 360 is also starting to gain some massive ground, will Revolution ever be able to catch up to the massive lead it's going to obtain? 250k in January is amazing, Jan is the slowest month of the year, so it's going to sell at least another 250k every month.

Things aren't looking good. The scariest thing is how much Nintendo America dropped the ball with DS.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 12, 2006, 02:44:56 PM
Nintendo needs to kill the GBA now, its time.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 12, 2006, 02:52:30 PM
Judging by the January sales figures, I disagree.  The GBA still has some legs to it, selling almost as much as the PSP.  The DS on the other hand seems to be flopping around miserably, not even coming close to the GBA.  I think Nintendo needs to kill the DS and move all future projects to the GBA2, it's obvious nobody wants the DS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 12, 2006, 03:16:38 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Judging by the January sales figures, I disagree.  The GBA still has some legs to it, selling almost as much as the PSP.  The DS on the other hand seems to be flopping around miserably, not even coming close to the GBA.  I think Nintendo needs to kill the DS and move all future projects to the GBA2, it's obvious nobody wants the DS.


The GBA is leeching sales. Lower the DS price a bit, release the Lite at a lower price, and end the GBA. Sales will go UP.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 12, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
Wow, I'm shocked at the DS sales. I thought that the holiday momentum and all the great games released recently would propel it. Not looking good..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 12, 2006, 06:30:31 PM
Sony:       451,000
Nintendo: 396,000
Microsoft: 338,000

Nothing really impressive and not a huge spread between the systems any which way.

PS2 is still doing amazingly well. I wanna know who is buying all these PS2s, PSP is also doing decent
Microsoft is either got tough times ahead for the 360 or are still the victims of shortages, I guess well know more come spring.
DS is doing less than I expected, hopefully Metroid Hunters will have a good marketing push, GBA just keeps raking in the dough, can't see why Nintendo would discontinue it. I bet productions costs are low enough on it now that they could sell it for $50 and still make a profit.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 12, 2006, 07:07:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: ShyGuy
GBA just keeps raking in the dough, can't see why Nintendo would discontinue it. I bet productions costs are low enough on it now that they could sell it for $50 and still make a profit.


Because its raking at the expense of the DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 12, 2006, 07:50:17 PM
Well if they make, say, $20 off of every GBA they sell, and $10 off of every DS they sell,  why would they? The DS isn't in dire straits, far from it. It has the overall lead in in all the major sales regions.

Now, if the DS continues to decline, even after Metroid and the GBA remains steady then maybe it would be time to kill of the DS.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 12, 2006, 09:14:25 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Well if they make, say, $20 off of every GBA they sell, and $10 off of every DS they sell,  why would they? The DS isn't in dire straits, far from it. It has the overall lead in in all the major sales regions.

Now, if the DS continues to decline, even after Metroid and the GBA remains steady then maybe it would be time to kill of the DS.


The reason the DS isn't outselling the PSP is because people are buying so many GBAs. The GBA is a dead system, the better it does the harder it becomes for the DS to dominate in North America.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 13, 2006, 05:24:01 AM
Well, I think the DS could use a new marketing push, too.  I really haven't seen Nintendo pushing the system much compared to the PSP.  I saw one Mario Kart commercial, and no Animal Crossing or Mario & Luigi commercials this Christmas.  I saw a few PSP commercials.

I don't think Nintendo should kill the GBA but a lower price point for the DS might be a good idea, and big marketing pushes for Final Fantasy III, New Super Mario Bros. and Metroid Prime Hunters are a must.  I think those games, plus the new Lite version could easily put the DS in the dominant position in North America, but Nintendo needs to really commit to it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 13, 2006, 03:19:14 PM
NPD isn't really a trustable source as they don't account for internet sales, and walmart (largest retailer in the US, which seemed to have the DS on their homepage for the holiday season) and a few other stores

What NPD does track is the industry specialty stores gamestop EB ect..., all of which i feel push the psp harder then the ds, so no ssurprise in those numbers
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 13, 2006, 03:32:22 PM
Funny fact: In Japan, DS sold more software in January 2006 than PSP did for all of 2004 and 2005. (4,770,000 vs 4,730,000)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 13, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
This is worldwide, right? Well it figures; the PSP's multimedia focus just kills the tie-in ratio..

-> I don't get it. I really don't. Nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA to so many people in North America has been successfully translated to the DS, and in some cases with even better results. Castlevania. Advance Wars. Sonic. Kirby. Mario Kart (not a port). Mario & Luigi. Wario Ware. All of these have arguably better versions on the DS, and they were integral to the success of the GBA. Combine these with some awesome new IPs or new handheld iterations, and the DS's library is nothing if not healthy. The only two big franchises left are Pokemon and Metroid (both coming sooner or later).

So why on earth is the DS selling so badly over here? I really thought that their fall lineup would carry them far. But...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 13, 2006, 09:58:24 PM
North America is driven by marketing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 13, 2006, 10:35:32 PM
NPD Jan Software sales dont quite match up to the hardware

1 NDS NINTENDOGS (combined)
2 360 CALL OF DUTY 2
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06
4 PS2 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL
5 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES
6 NDS MARIO KART
7 NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD
8 PS2 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED
9 360 DEAD OR ALIVE 4
10 PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II
11 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006

No numbers known, just that the top 5 sold over 100k, and NFS:MW PS2 sold 88,000, so that puts MKDS and ACWW just under 100,000 for the month, with an outstanding performance by Nintendogs.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 13, 2006, 10:41:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold

So why on earth is the DS selling so badly over here? I really thought that their fall lineup would carry them far. But...
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. It has great games, it's inexpensive and easy to develop for, it's userbase is large and constantly growing, and i'd say has a excellent system price. So the DS isn't going anywhere, but forward.    
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 14, 2006, 06:47:33 AM
"I don't get it. I really don't. Nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA to so many people in North America has been successfully translated to the DS, and in some cases with even better results. Castlevania. Advance Wars. Sonic. Kirby. Mario Kart (not a port). Mario & Luigi. Wario Ware. All of these have arguably better versions on the DS, and they were integral to the success of the GBA."

That's the problem.  The big games for the North American audience are all sequels.  Why buy a DS to play Castlevania or Mario Kart when I can play those games on the GBA which is much cheaper?  In Japan it's different.  Nintendogs and Brain Training have done incredibly well.  Those games don't exist on any other system ever so you HAVE to buy a DS for them.  System sellers are typically new games with new experiences.  "Hey come buy all the games you bought last time" doesn't sell systems.  It sure as hell didn't sell Gamecubes.

In North America Nintendo needs something unique to really grab people.  So far I've noticed with the DS that the "traditional games" are all sequels and franchise stuff while the "non-games" are new.  Nintendo has been of the idea that their franchises are everything so they probably think that franchises and sequels are good enough to attract the traditional group.  But that's a flawed plan.  It requires the non-gamer strategy to really take off.  In Japan it has but in North America it hasn't really yet.  After all the whole plan was in response to the market in Japan so it makes sense why it would work well there but not here.  Here the "people getting bored of games" arguement doesn't make sense.  It's quite the opposite here.  So Nintendo has a problem where their new content, the games that are supposed to be the system sellers, are all non-games so if non-games don't take off in North America they've got nothing but a bunch of sequels which will make it harder to find a system seller.

The GBA doesn't help.  After all if the DS isn't providing that much different for traditional gamers then the GBA itself having the GBA in stores is going to give people even more of an excuse to buy the old system.

It's not a really drastic situation but it's something Nintendo has to keep in mind.  Traditional gamers are not going to be content to just play the same old stuff over again.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 14, 2006, 07:20:10 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
In Japan it's different.  Nintendogs and Brain Training have done incredibly well.


Brain Training obviously isn't out yet, but you DO see the sales chart above you, right?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 14, 2006, 08:01:01 AM
I know Nintendogs is doing well but it's only one game.  We're trying to figure out why the DS isn't selling as well as the PSP in North America.  Someone mentioned all these sequels that were big on the GBA and was questioning why that isn't making a difference.  So I'm explaining why I think they aren't.

On the DS the touchscreen is everything.  Without it the DS is just a souped up GBA with hardware that is massively inferior to the PSP.  In Japan the touchscreen seems to be well received but in North America Nintendogs is the only really touchscreen-heavy game that is selling really well.  That's a problem.  There needs to be big touchscreen hits in North America to make the DS stand out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on February 14, 2006, 08:04:41 AM
"Why buy a DS to play Castlevania or Mario Kart when I can play those games on the GBA which is much cheaper?"

You know Ian, for someone who chattered incessantly about Nintendo needing to embrace Online gameplay, you sure are quick to dismiss its addition.

Edit: On a side note, I really hate the NPD numbers.  By the end of this year they will only be receiving less than half of all returns from game sellers.  It would be pitiful to rely on their numbers as any sort of market measure.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on February 14, 2006, 08:11:15 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Traditional gamers are not going to be content to just play the same old stuff over again.



.. hence the revolution
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on February 14, 2006, 08:47:25 AM
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The big games for the North American audience are all sequels. Why buy a DS to play Castlevania or Mario Kart when I can play those games on the GBA which is much cheaper?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't YOU buy a DS to play Castlevania and Mario Kart?  Why don't you answer your own question?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 14, 2006, 09:04:54 AM
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't YOU buy a DS to play Castlevania and Mario Kart? Why don't you answer your own question?"

It's a rhetorical question.  I don't mean "I" literally.  Yeah I bought the DS for those games but I'm a hardcore game nut who is going to buy a Nintendo system the second games I'm interested in are released.  The average person doesn't buy a new system to play the same stuff they've played before.  The really big videogame hits that sell systems by the truckloads are always something new and difference (or perceived as such).  If Nintendo really wants to kick the PSP's ass they need a game that has that some sort of oomph that Pokemon had.

We're talking about people who still buy GBAs despite the fact that very few new games are still being made for it and that a new system with new games has come out that can play GBA games.  We're talking about the general public here who is largely ignorant.  They need something more than sequels to popular GBA games.  For most the GBA is probably still "good enough" so Nintendo needs to provide more incentive to switch over.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on February 14, 2006, 09:15:19 AM
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We're talking about people who still buy GBAs despite the fact that very few new games are still being made for it and that a new system with new games has come out that can play GBA games. We're talking about the general public here who is largely ignorant.
Hey now, I recently purchased a Micro, so watch what you're saying.  

I understand your point, but these (big name sequels) are the the games that sell in large numbers.  Granted, a single huge sequel generally isn't going to be a system seller for most people, but if you get enough of them it becomes "well damn, now I have no choice but to buy this system in order to play all these awesome games".
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 14, 2006, 09:45:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Traditional gamers are not going to be content to just play the same old stuff over again.


So, in the top ten for last month we have: Call of Duty 2, Madden, Baseball, GTA, Mario kart, Animal Crossing, Need for Speed, Dead or Alive 4, Star Wars: Battlefront 2 and a WWE game. The only original title is Nintendogs.

So which gamers aren't content to buy the same old games, again?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on February 14, 2006, 10:32:56 AM
"So which gamers aren't content to buy the same old games, again?"

How content are they to buy a new system though?  One issue that has been brought up is that the X360 and PS3 have no reason to exist because they just offer more of the same.  Well if most of its big games are just fancy GBA games the DS has no reason to exist.  The stylus is what justifies the DS.  Lord knows we didn't need a replacement for the GBA so soon.  It didn't even last five years.  So without new content what's the DS for?  We didn't need a new portable to have sequels to GBA games.  Without more big innovative games of high quality and mass appeal the DS looks more like what many suspected it was, a stop-gap to combat the PSP before the "real" next Gameboy arrives.  There certainly wasn't any demand for the DS prior to its debut which may play a part in sales.

Someone is probably going to mention that the "reason to exist factor" is why the Rev makes so much sense and that it makes no sense for me to be critical of it.  I think Nintendo's idea of innovating is good, I just don't like the execution.  I don't like how they feel they have to totally reinvent the controller to innovate or the whole blue ocean strategy to grab non-gamers.  But let's not go off topic.  Just a pre-emptive defense.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 14, 2006, 11:42:11 AM
Expect DS sales in the US to skyrocket in 2006, what with the launch of the Lite and Pokemon, not to mention that with the release of Pokemon expect the GBA sales to start phasing out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 14, 2006, 02:16:09 PM
I doubt Pokemon will be out in 2006, but we'll see..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on February 14, 2006, 03:37:52 PM
I'm sorry Ian, you fail.

Americans are the dumb yuppies that are the reason for EA's existence.  They woulld all simultaneously die the second EA announced Madden was skipping a year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on February 14, 2006, 05:06:48 PM
The PS2 lived on sequels for the first several years. All the major console-selling titles, Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy X, Grand Theft Auto 3, were all sequels. If the North American market was unwilling to buy a new system just for sequels, the PS2 would've never gotten off the ground.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on February 14, 2006, 05:53:59 PM
<Ian>The big games for the North American audience are all sequels.</Ian>
<Ian>We're trying to figure out why the DS isn't selling as well as the PSP in North America. </Ian>

So, now, what are the original games on the PSP here in NA that helps explain why it's doing well?


Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 14, 2006, 06:23:11 PM
I noticed in the Reggie DICE conference videos at IGN, Nintendogs has 1.5 million sold in the US now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 14, 2006, 06:34:07 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
<Ian>The big games for the North American audience are all sequels.</Ian>
<Ian>We're trying to figure out why the DS isn't selling as well as the PSP in North America. </Ian>

So, now, what are the original games on the PSP here in NA that helps explain why it's doing well?
There are games for PSP? And they are sold in NA? How come nobody told me this?

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 14, 2006, 07:35:44 PM
I'm part of the reason Call of Duty 2 is #2...I bought Nintendogs when it was released...then sold it after a couple weeks.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on February 14, 2006, 10:04:51 PM
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How content are they to buy a new system though? One issue that has been brought up is that the X360 and PS3 have no reason to exist because they just offer more of the same. Well if most of its big games are just fancy GBA games the DS has no reason to exist.

Most of the DS's big games couldn't have been done on the GBA. Nintendogs and a bunch of other games needed the touchscreen. And the mike. And the 3d graphics. Mario Kart needed 3d graphics and online capabilities. Mario and Luigi needed 2 screens. Yeah, some games are just souped-up versions of games from the previous generation... but then, that happens with every system. In fact, the leap from GBA to DS is much, much larger than any previous Game Boy generational leap.

Quote

Someone is probably going to mention that the "reason to exist factor" is why the Rev makes so much sense and that it makes no sense for me to be critical of it. I think Nintendo's idea of innovating is good, I just don't like the execution. I don't like how they feel they have to totally reinvent the controller to innovate or the whole blue ocean strategy to grab non-gamers. But let's not go off topic. Just a pre-emptive defense.

Yes, yes, we know: you want Nintendo to innovate, you just don't want them to do anything even remotley different.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 14, 2006, 10:25:46 PM
Sales data directly from Nintendo straight from that DS conference.

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Nintendogs (3 versions)
1,180,000 - Japan
5,000,000 - World Wide
first DS million seller

Animal Crossing DS
2,380,000 ordered, 2,170,000 shipped in Japan

Brain Training
1,800,000 shipped in Japan

Yawaraka Atamajuku
1,180,000 shipped in Japan

Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi
over 1,000,000 sold in Japan

Mario Kart DS
1,210,000 shipped in Japan
a million seller in both the US and Europe each

Brain Training 2
1,540,000 shipped in Japan

7 million sellers in total. Other data:

Dare Demo Asobi Taizen
510,000 shipped in Japan

Eigo Zuke (English Training?)
570,000 shipped, 920,000 copies ordered in Japan

Sawaru Made in Wario
980,000 shipped in Japan, expected million seller

Super Mario 64 DS
930,000 shipped in Japan, expected million seller

Jump Superstars
540,000 shipped in Japan
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on February 14, 2006, 10:27:57 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
<Ian>The big games for the North American audience are all sequels.</Ian>
<Ian>We're trying to figure out why the DS isn't selling as well as the PSP in North America. </Ian>

So, now, what are the original games on the PSP here in NA that helps explain why it's doing well?
There are games for PSP? And they are sold in NA? How come nobody told me this?


you must've been confused from the "portable cheese" and "Lobbing" PSP commercials and not realize that it is a dare i say it.......a game system.............ughhh it pains me to even call it that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 14, 2006, 11:21:06 PM
Can somebody explain Big Brain Academy to me? Is that just Brain Training 2? Is one for adults and the other for kids?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on February 15, 2006, 07:44:53 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
<Ian>The big games for the North American audience are all sequels.</Ian>
<Ian>We're trying to figure out why the DS isn't selling as well as the PSP in North America. </Ian>

So, now, what are the original games on the PSP here in NA that helps explain why it's doing well?
There are games for PSP? And they are sold in NA? How come nobody told me this?


I think Walmart keeps them behind row after row of Spiderman UMDs.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 15, 2006, 02:46:52 PM
Media Create Sales 6 Feb - 12 Feb

1. DS English Training (Nintendo, DS): 72,290 (424,214)
2. Train Your Brain 2 (Nintendo, DS): 70,407 (1,213,603)
3. Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo, DS): 57,335 (1,850,063)
4. Siren 2 (SCE, PS2): 49,780
5. Otona no DS Training (Nintendo, DS): 32,082 (1,520,843)
6. Machigae Museum (Namco, DS): 21,132
7. Tourist Trophy (SCE, PS2): 20,433 (80,087)
8. Monster Hunter Portable (Capcom, PSP): 20,126 (4,67,180)
9. Shin Onimusha (Capcom, PS2): 19,916 (295,721)
10. Mario Kart DS (Nintendo, DS): 18,304 (1,098,472)

1. PSP: 24,977 (310,253)
2. PS2: 23,383 (217,840)
3. DS: 10,223 (351,802)
4. GBASP: 5,405 (52,337)
5. GBMicro: 2,934 (32,588)
6. GC: 2,025 (30,577)
7. Xbox360: 1,288 (22,657)
8. GBA: 150 (1478)
9. Xbox: 84 (671)

This is getting painful.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2006, 02:52:25 PM
umd's must be selling quite well.....it doesnt look like the psps games are. i wonder how much sony makes off of umd sales?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 15, 2006, 03:50:59 PM
Wow, those really are bad shortages. Are the bracketed numbers the total this year? If so it's a biiiig embarassment that Sony cannot beat the DS despite the insane shortages.

AC will hit two million, which is great! And the poor 360 falls again.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2006, 12:04:05 AM
Nintendogs hits the 2 MILLION mark in Europe!!!
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The phenomenal success of Nintendogs continues to go from strength to strength for Nintendo with the latest sales across Europe reaching 2 million.

Nintendogs has also made a massive impact across the globe, with sales in the US reaching 1.5 million and over 1 million in Japan.


4.5 million and counting (not including AUS, outher asian countries<+Russia> and anything below the US border)

5 million ww according to Mario's data
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 16, 2006, 12:22:51 AM
This has got to be the first major Nintendo game ever where the sales are Europe > US > Japan. New market GET!

Last weeks French chart

1. Nintendogs : Labrador (Nintendo, NDS)
2. Mario Party 7 (Nintendo, GC)
3. FIFA 06 (EA, PS2)
4. Nintendogs : Teckel (Nintendo, NDS)
5. Pro Evolution Soccer 5 (Konami, PS2)
6. Grand Theft Auto : San Andreas platinum (Take 2, PS2)
7. Dead or Alive 4 (Microsoft, Xbox 360)
8. Dragon Ball Z : Supersonic Warriors 2 (Atari, NDS)
9. Need For Speed Most Wanted (EA, PS2)
10. Mario Kart DS (Nintendo, NDS)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 16, 2006, 05:57:34 AM
Go Nintendogs.  I wonder how PSP is doing versus DS in Europe?  I wish we had European numbers for GameCube and Xbox, too.  Oh well!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 16, 2006, 07:05:40 AM
Dunno how the PSP is doing, some stores are allocating a LOT of space to it (one even had it replace the GBA completely) while others treat it worse than the Gamecube. I suppose Sony is paying for shelf presence.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem of Darcness on February 16, 2006, 09:40:14 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Go Nintendogs.  I wonder how PSP is doing versus DS in Europe?  I wish we had European numbers for GameCube and Xbox, too.  Oh well!


The latest sales numbers has the DS leading the PSP in Europe 3.7 million to 2.4 million so the DS has a healthy lead everywhere but here and It seems that the DS is bulding momentum in the US as of late as well. Those stupid new PSP ads looked like crap Nintendo would have put out. It seem that Nintendo's ads for DS are far better than the crap Sony is churning out for PSP. Its weird the one thing Sony always nailed was there ad campaigns. The PSP ads are almost as bad as the initial 360 ads shown last year.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on February 16, 2006, 11:13:58 AM
Well I say we give it a couple months and see. 2005 ws slow at first for DS then once the game started coming people jumped on board. Tetris Ds and MP Hunters both come out next month so those games should make a big impact. I already no several PSP people who are going to get a DS for Tetris DS and I know some who are starting to get excited about MP:H
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on February 16, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Dunno how the PSP is doing, some stores are allocating a LOT of space to it (one even had it replace the GBA completely) while others treat it worse than the Gamecube. I suppose Sony is paying for shelf presence.


For all the shelf space they're dedicated to UMDs, I've never seen anybody looking at or buying one. I know they must sell some just by the simple fact that so many people have PSPs (and they're sure as hell not buying them to play games), but if I had a retail store and was giving those UMDs such prime retail space for as little interest as they seem to generate, I think I'd have to be getting a hell of a deal from Sony to pimp them.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on February 16, 2006, 12:56:00 PM
I think the PSP is selling so well because people are buying it and loading their own music, movies and software on it.

I can't speak for every retail store, but I can say that we don't move hardly any software or movies for the system.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 16, 2006, 01:05:47 PM
While Nintendo doesn't pay them a dime, the games and system get shoved to the back of the store and they still sell like gangbusters.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 16, 2006, 01:50:03 PM
The shortages are hurting the DS, hopefully they fix the supply issues.

Also its interesting to see that the only place the PSP is threatening the DS is in NA guess, it shows just how casual the US market is.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on February 16, 2006, 02:50:54 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
I think the PSP is selling so well because people are buying it and loading their own music, movies and software on it.

I can't speak for every retail store, but I can say that we don't move hardly any software or movies for the system.



it appears that your store isnt the only one.....

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144463.html

i wonder what they will use to fill all that shelf space? i heard that the psp plays games....i think its just a rumour though.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on February 16, 2006, 03:17:09 PM
"Sony, realizing that comedy UMDs sell much better than action or horror UMDs, will be adding Not Another Teen Movie and Monty Python content to its lineup" I'm  trying extremely hard to understand the PSP demographic. This is making it more challenging.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 16, 2006, 04:01:58 PM
i don't get it, if the UMD is selling badly and the games are too, how is it doing well in US

(i still don't believe its doing better then the DS, NPD isn't realiable)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on February 16, 2006, 04:07:10 PM
Now why do they think an adapter to play UMD's on TV would be all that great?  If I wanted to watch a movie on my TV I would get a DVD of it, not the 4 in. version.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on February 16, 2006, 04:18:26 PM
But you can't bring the DVD with you on the go!

Oh, wait...  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 16, 2006, 04:36:51 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Amodaus1
i don't get it, if the UMD is selling badly and the games are too, how is it doing well in US

(i still don't believe its doing better then the DS, NPD isn't realiable)




I wonder about those sales myself. Maybe Sony executives are buying  thousands of PSPs and storing them in Kramer's apartment
Serenity Now!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 16, 2006, 04:50:19 PM
Geez, reading a Seinfeld script makes it seem like *I* could write something like that.  It's all just so simple and stupid, but when I see the final product it's genius.  Huh,  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on February 16, 2006, 06:54:30 PM
I'm going to cry when I buy and watch the last season. *sigh* It's sad, how time passes.

That's what we need. Seinfeld: The Next Generation. Hand it over to the younger folk in a few years. God, what a disaster that'd be.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on February 16, 2006, 08:00:40 PM
Sony has stated that they are going to start using the PSP as a way to compete against Ipod, since Walkman isnt doing so well as an MP3 player, and they are really pushing the multi media features over the games right now.

I think a lot of peopel who buy PSP buy it as a do anything device. Everybody wants a good Mp3 player and MP3 players that have SD slots are theoreticaly better than ones with hardrives/flash drives because you can always add more songs to them as you get more cards.

Also I hear a lot of people say that although portabledvd plaeyrs are better for watching movies on than PSP, the fact that you can also stor emusic, photos, browse websites and if you felt like it, play games on it. Tahst why it sells period. Oh and its Playstation and people buy anything Sony splaps Playstations name on.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 16, 2006, 08:08:05 PM
Everybody wants a good Mp3 player and MP3 players that have SD slots are theoreticaly better than ones with hardrives/flash drives because you can always add more songs to them as you get more cards.

Well yes but the PSP doesn't support SD cards, since it's a Sony device it only takes Sony formats.

BTW, NoE announced that they've sold more than 2 Million copies of Nintendogs Europe-wide.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 18, 2006, 09:57:00 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k

BTW, NoE announced that they've sold more than 2 Million copies of Nintendogs Europe-wide.


Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1 Thu February 16, 2006 3:04 AM   
Nintendogs hits the 2 MILLION mark in Europe!!!
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The phenomenal success of Nintendogs continues to go from strength to strength for Nintendo with the latest sales across Europe reaching 2 million.

Nintendogs has also made a massive impact across the globe, with sales in the US reaching 1.5 million and over 1 million in Japan.


4.5 million and counting (not including AUS, outher asian countries<+Russia> and anything below the US border)

5 million ww according to Mario's data
posted about 20 post ago
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on February 22, 2006, 02:26:11 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: cmoney
I'm going to cry when I buy and watch the last season. *sigh* It's sad, how time passes.

That's what we need. Seinfeld: The Next Generation. Hand it over to the younger folk in a few years. God, what a disaster that'd be.


Isn't that what Curb Your Enthusiasm is?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 22, 2006, 05:22:16 PM
Media Create Sales 13 Feb ~ 19 Feb

DS sales continue to fall to the bottom end of the chart...

01 PS2 Monster Hunter 2 - 362,173 / 362,173
02 NDS Brain Age 2 - 64,856 / 1,278,458
03 NDS DS English Training - 52,481 / 476,695
04 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 50,808 / 1,900,871
05 PS2 Bleach RPG - 41,480 / 41,480
06 NDS Brain Age - 33,194 / 1,554,037
07 PSP Monster Hunter Portable - 27,823 / 495,003
08 NDS Mario Kart DS - 15,832 / 1,114,304
09 PS2 Siren 2 - 12,911 / 62,691
10 PS2 Winning Eleven 9 Bonus Pack - 12,087 / 67,786

11 NDS Eyeshield 21 DS
12 NDS Right Brain Master! Machigai Museum (Namco)
13 PS2 Shin Onimusha DAWN OF DREAMS
14 NDS Big Brain Academy
15 PS2 Tourist Trophy
16 NDS Tamagotchi DS
17 PS2 Final Fantasy 7 -DoC-
18 PS2 Nobnaga's Ambition
19 NGC Super Mario Strikers
20 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taizen DS
21 NDS Mario & Luigi RPG 2
22 NDS Bleach DS
23 PS2 SIREN (PlayStation 2 the Best)
24 NDS Pokemon Fushgi no Dungeon DS
25 PS2 Ar Tonelico
26 PSP Brain Trainer Portable (Sega)
27 GBA Pokemon Fushgi no Dungeon
28 PS2 Dance Dance Revolution STRIKE
29 GBA Famicom Mini - Super Mario Bros.
30 NDS Slime Morimori Dragon Quest 2

I bet DS hardware sales are in the 4 digits. GameCube is going to have a new friend this year. Also, looks like Sony has a massive new hit franchise on their hands with Monster Hunter, the next Pokemon? Seems so. Nintendo's tried to replicate Pokemon's success, but failed many times, the incredible popularity of Monster Hunter must be burning them.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on February 22, 2006, 05:25:45 PM
I don't understand, the top 10 has 5 NDS games.

Are you saying the system sales are diminishing?  The DS Lite was announced, and will be released in a week.  I imagine a lot of people are holding off on that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2006, 05:52:07 PM
I call for this thread to be renamed "Mario uses too much sarcasm + DS Sales maybe"...  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 22, 2006, 06:07:29 PM
Once again the sarcasm dripping from Mario's post engulfs another unsuspecting victim..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 22, 2006, 07:18:40 PM
I think its time to end the sarcasm. It's just getting sad
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 22, 2006, 07:21:19 PM
Some people can't handle the facts
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on February 22, 2006, 07:27:36 PM
PSP Brain Training isn't doing as poorly as I would have thought.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 02:46:05 AM
DS: 52,099
PSP: 27,430
PS2: 23,433
GBASP: 5553
GBM: 2941
GC: 1814
Xbox 360: 1314
GBA: 105
Xbox: 92

Well.... where on earth did this DS hardware boost come from? Sales are up x5 over last week, and it's right before the DS Lite launch, are consumers so angry at the Lites existance they're buying normal DS's in protest?  Hardware gains + software decrease means people are now buying less games for their DS, which also supports the protest. Third Parties with upcoming DS games can't be too happy about this.

I'll stop soon... it's just so easy, the posts write themselves
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 23, 2006, 03:26:25 AM
I cannot WAIT to see the numbers in two weeks. Selling the DSL should be like selling young Japanese women to American teenagers. JUST TOO EASY.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on February 23, 2006, 03:29:02 AM
Weird boost there.  Any chance that counts DSL pre-sells?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 03:40:28 AM
Nope. If so it'd be much higher

I think it's just a case that the week before DS's were pretty much extinct and last week Nintendo shipped a couple and everyone grabbed them. I've never seen a phenomenom like this before...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 23, 2006, 06:39:08 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
I cannot WAIT to see the numbers in two weeks. Selling the DSL should be like selling young Japanese women to American teenagers. JUST TOO EASY.

I'll take 5, do you you take credit?
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on February 23, 2006, 01:24:50 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Quote

Originally posted by: cmoney
I'm going to cry when I buy and watch the last season. *sigh* It's sad, how time passes.

That's what we need. Seinfeld: The Next Generation. Hand it over to the younger folk in a few years. God, what a disaster that'd be.


Isn't that what Curb Your Enthusiasm is?



I'd say partially. It's more of...a long running documentary and the making of.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on February 23, 2006, 03:09:14 PM
Actually it puts Nintendo in a very good position, in that once the new model is released they can sell it for more (initially) even though it most likely costs less to make and wont have any excess old stock lying  around.
If anything the PSP must be realy doing shiiit if Nintendo can sell that may DS's when the new one is just around the corner.

Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales 13 Feb ~ 19 Feb

I bet DS hardware sales are in the 4 digits.

Some people can't handle the facts



And your prediction that the DS would sell in four figures this week you stated as fact?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 23, 2006, 04:18:41 PM
You know, it really is amazing. You cannot understate it. 50,000 units without a single new game, and they're still not fully stocked.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on February 24, 2006, 05:25:17 AM
Apparently Nintendo are only shipping 300,000 DS Lites to stores on the launch week, looks like they really have given up...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 24, 2006, 07:16:49 AM
This next week should be fascinating. They could conceivably sell over 300,000 DS units (old and new). Pretty unbelieveable...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 24, 2006, 07:22:41 AM
"take 5"

What a great candy bar.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on February 24, 2006, 11:45:14 AM
For all its genericness (peanuts, pretzels, caramel, peanut butter, chocolate... brilliant!) it's pretty good. Still can't unseat the champ, the pinnacle, the greatest of all time; the 5th Avenue. Pimpin'.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on February 24, 2006, 03:34:40 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Renny
For all its genericness (peanuts, pretzels, caramel, peanut butter, chocolate... brilliant!) it's pretty good. Still can't unseat the champ, the pinnacle, the greatest of all time; the 5th Avenue. Pimpin'.



WTF you been smoking
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on February 24, 2006, 05:01:31 PM
This affordable stick.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 24, 2006, 06:12:37 PM
Curly Wurly
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 24, 2006, 06:26:38 PM
Smoking kills.

So do video games.

Faster, Mario! Kill! Kill!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: archioverload on February 28, 2006, 11:15:28 AM
I had a cherry flavored Kit Kat the other day.

Waaaay better than it sounds. Thems good eatin.

</candy>
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 28, 2006, 11:35:48 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

I'll take 5, do you you take credit?


Hell with that!

Where do we sign up to be a dealer?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on February 28, 2006, 01:49:12 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
I cannot WAIT to see the numbers in two weeks. Selling the DSL should be like selling young Japanese women to American teenagers. JUST TOO EASY.

I'll take 5, do you you take credit?


Do you want panties with that?    
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 01, 2006, 04:11:20 PM
Media Create February 20-26

1. PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 327,298 NEW
2. PS2 Genso SuikodenV 135,289 NEW
3. PS2 Disgaea 2 - 104,059 NEW
4. NDS Brain Training 2 64,298 (1,342,757)
5. NDS Animal Crossing DS 56,806 (1,957,677)
6. PS2 Monster Hunter 2 - 54,358 (416,531)
7. PSP Initial D 51,144 NEW
8. NDS English Training 44,877 (521,572)
9. NDS Brain Training 36,723 (1,590,760)
10. PS2 Clannad 28,986 NEW

...

15. GC Baten Kaitos II - 15,920 NEW

DS getting absolutely destroyed by a 6 year old system. Word is that they shipped less than 100,000 DS Lites for the DSL launch too (after the two colours were delayed), which is just stupid, they'll never catch up to PSP at this rate. Reggie needs to come into their production plants and kick some ass, Nintendo Japan are the ones killing the DS.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 01, 2006, 04:19:25 PM
Anyone know what the upcoming game releases are in Japan?

N/M: Secret of Mana comes out with the DSL. Cannot WAIT for next week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 01, 2006, 04:23:31 PM
Children of Mana and Puzzloop came out today, in a few weeks Pokemon Ranger, Cooking Mama and Deep Labyrinth are out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 01, 2006, 06:13:57 PM
http://ds.ign.com/articles/692/692939p1.html

Has this EVER happened for a redesign? It's bigger than the launch!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on March 01, 2006, 06:19:03 PM
Clannad? That's a stupid name.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 01, 2006, 06:23:51 PM
Oh god that's worse than I predicted (sell out in 1 hour).

Prease lik-sang, you better have nabbed 10k units =(
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on March 01, 2006, 06:35:18 PM
That's pretty phenomenal.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 01, 2006, 06:50:25 PM
Dasmos, your avatar is really painful...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 01, 2006, 07:44:34 PM
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-17-37-1aa62541b6d48d81bc348f6b6568448d-71-8s-74-11a-49-en.html

Demand is MASSIVE! According to that article they only shipped 80,000 DS Lites nationwide today, WTF?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Dasmos on March 02, 2006, 12:01:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Dasmos, your avatar is really painful...
Don't be a hater, Artimus. I am not too fond of the thought of a red Koopa with a green shell. Those are my 2 most hated colours when together.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 02, 2006, 03:33:09 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Dasmos
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Dasmos, your avatar is really painful...
Don't be a hater, Artimus. I am not too fond of the thought of a red Koopa with a green shell. Those are my 2 most hated colours when together.


I mean it actually hurts and gives headaches Seriously, it's really hard to have on the screen, not being rude.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 02, 2006, 04:57:46 AM
Wake up to an email from Lik Sang (yay my order shipped!) telling me that I'm paying $30 more and my order *hasn't* shipped (noooo).

Le sigh.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 02, 2006, 05:35:24 AM
According to IGN, Nintendo is shipping 450,000 DS Lites to Japan this week, and 100,000 standard DS systems. I'm guessing sell-through for the week will be in the range of...550,000 units.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 02, 2006, 06:36:01 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
According to IGN, Nintendo is shipping 450,000 DS Lites to Japan this week, and 100,000 standard DS systems. I'm guessing sell-through for the week will be in the range of...550,000 units.
There was a forum member (site owner actually) at EvilAvatar.com who said way back in the begining, before the DS or PSP were even released, that "the DS doesn't have anything, at all, anyone would want"  (Yes, he is a heavy PSP fan.) Needless to say i've had fun being able to poke fun at him for that comment. And we still have the launch of Ice Blue and Enamal Navy to weather....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on March 02, 2006, 06:40:47 AM
You know what these sales mean don't you?  We should all buy DS systems and sell them on ebay Japan!

I wonder if that would work.  I know there's a market for importing in North America but is there in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 02, 2006, 08:02:38 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: RiskyChris
Wake up to an email from Lik Sang (yay my order shipped!) telling me that I'm paying $30 more and my order *hasn't* shipped (noooo).

Le sigh.


Welcome to the club.

It went up, but I don't even care. I was thinking of canceling but then I saw that damn beautiful blue case and the "Tech lust" kicked back into high gear.

I don't spend much money so I'm not worried about it, but it's a good thing Nintendo doesn't sell cars or helicopters or something.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on March 02, 2006, 08:16:59 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus

I mean it actually hurts and gives headaches Seriously, it's really hard to have on the screen, not being rude.


I second that complaint, I always quickly scroll past Dasmos' posts on account of it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 02, 2006, 08:49:14 AM
In fact, I actually remove it using the firefox extention, Remove-it-permantly. Which is normally for use against combating Ad heavy websites. Or the kind that will place large obtrusive ads in the middle of an article
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 02, 2006, 10:45:50 AM
so looks like Nintendo still making money, goodnews cuz they now have more cash to fund Revolution.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on March 02, 2006, 11:53:17 AM
"In addition to a wide variety of people willing to wait a few hours in line, we noticed girls, elderly couples and businessmen making inquiries about the system's availability."

Look like nintendo getting it's non-gamer
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 02, 2006, 12:15:51 PM
Personal anecdote:  I recently went on vacation (!!)  In our group there were three DSs and three PSPs.  Outside of our group I noticed zero PSPs and probably around five different people with DSs.  Every one of those DSs was being played by a young girl (around 8-11 I would estimate).  Just thought I'd throw that out there since that's about the same number of girls I've seen playing GBAs in my life (or any portable game systems, actually).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 02, 2006, 03:15:12 PM
Elderly couples?

Businessmen and girls I can see, but the elderly!?

Gotta be the Nintendogs...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on March 02, 2006, 04:15:15 PM
Could be the Brain Training games too, don't forget them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 02, 2006, 04:22:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: darknight06
Could be the Brain Training games too, don't forget them.


Good call, especially since a virtual dog can't dial 911.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Guitar Smasher on March 02, 2006, 06:49:56 PM
I don't know.  I fear it may be that surgery game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 02, 2006, 07:24:29 PM
That's just a bad idea.

Grandpa will never go in for that triple bypass if he knows what goes on in there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on March 04, 2006, 12:09:58 PM
I don't know, it could be quite the contrary. Maybe not in your example, but people are usually more comfortable about a situation that deals with their body when they know what the hell is going on.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 04, 2006, 01:12:40 PM
discharge.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 04, 2006, 07:02:20 PM
To be fair, if I were going under the knife, I'd be inclined to give the head surgeon a three minute lecture on how he better not be a "f*cking noob" at this...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odifiend on March 04, 2006, 08:19:59 PM
yeah, that will really calm him down before your surgery...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 06, 2006, 07:14:52 AM
If his lip quivered even once during the lecture, I'd demand a different surgeon.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 06, 2006, 07:19:12 AM
so when does that Tetris Ds come out? I have been waiting for that ever since I heard aboutit.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 06, 2006, 07:42:27 AM
Later this month. I'd buy it, but I suck at Tetris.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on March 06, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
"Elderly couples? Businessmen and girls I can see, but the elderly!?

link
"Patients have even been encouraged by some of the hospitals to buy a DS and the Brain Training games so that they may continue their mind stimulation regimen at home. "The game won't cure dementia. But it's a good form of stimulation -- especially for old people living alone," said Dr. Takeshi Kihara, a neuropsychiatrist at the clinic."

So that why old people have been lining up for the DSlite  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on March 07, 2006, 02:30:24 AM
Whoa....


Could doctors prescribe a DS?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 07, 2006, 06:07:54 AM
Doctors can prescribe anything they want, I doubt most medical insurance plans are going to cover then though. Plus, look at this from the article: Hospitals there are "renting them out"!

I've heard of the medical community recommending video games before (popular in the 1980's for doctors to recommend video games as a treatment for children with poor hand-eye coordination), but this goes one step further, and they're renting them out as though they were an actual medical device.

Given the recent shortage though, I wonder how many older gamers are faking early-onset dementia just so they can rent one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2006, 07:07:55 AM
Medical conditions are hard to fake, doctors know how to spot simulants.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 07, 2006, 07:38:13 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Medical conditions are hard to fake, doctors know how to spot simulants.


Tell that to Kramer.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 07, 2006, 08:16:25 AM
"No, bad Kramer! BAD KRAMER!!!!"

Dammit, I might have to pick up brain training now, not because I'm an old person, but so many of the new DS games trigger the "morbid curiosity" response that it's ridiculous.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 07, 2006, 08:24:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Medical conditions are hard to fake, doctors know how to spot simulants.


Sure, when the diagnosis involves a test. "Crazy old man who wants to play video games" probably passes the diagnosis stage pretty easily.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 08, 2006, 03:00:12 PM
Media Create Feb 27 - March 5

01 PS2 Gundam Clamix U.c. - 157,000 / 157,000
02 NDS Seiken Densetsu CoM - 103,000 / 103,000
03 PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 (Samurai Warrior) - 98,000 / 425,000
04 NDS Braining Age 2 - 91,000 / 1,434,000
05 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 77,000 / 2,035,000
06 PSP Valkyrie Profile - 70,000 / 70,000
07 PS2 Devil Summoner Raidou - 64,000 / 64,000
08 NDS English DS Training - 53,000 / 574,000
09 NDS Braining Age - 51,000 / 1,642,000
10 PS2 Monster Hunter 2 - 26,000 / 442,000

Flop of Mana's sales were pretty much destroyed by Nintendo, the shortages all make sense now. All Nintendo care about it having all the top selling Nintendo DS games be by them. This has also let yet ANOTHER PSP game swing into the top 10, a game that nobody would have even looked at if the DS supplies were existant. DS Lite hardware is probably going to have the lowest debut sales since Xbox 360.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on March 08, 2006, 03:19:51 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Feb 27 - March 5

Flop of Mana's sales were pretty much destroyed by Nintendo, the shortages all make sense now. All Nintendo care about it having all the top selling Nintendo DS games be by them. This has also let yet ANOTHER PSP game swing into the top 10, a game that nobody would have even looked at if the DS supplies were existant. DS Lite hardware is probably going to have the lowest debut sales since Xbox 360.



I wish you would STFU, this crap is getting borring

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 08, 2006, 03:22:27 PM
Fanboys world comes crashing down, facts can't hold it up anymore.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 08, 2006, 03:29:15 PM
wow... AC passed the two million mark in Japan alone?!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on March 08, 2006, 03:36:58 PM
Good to see a non Nintendo DS title come in at number 2. A mini review us available for Seiken Densetsu : Children of Mana
mini review link  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 08, 2006, 04:03:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Aussiedude

I wish you would STFU, this crap is getting borring
You do realize Mario is joking, right? Any time Mario posts numbers his dissenting commentary is in jest. You know Nintendo being doomed and all....

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 08, 2006, 07:18:31 PM
He's pulling that number for over a year now. The dead hore is nothing more than pulp now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 08, 2006, 07:42:30 PM
I'm actually 100% seriously annoyed at the shortages. I'll stop when the shortages stop.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 08, 2006, 08:43:26 PM
Yeah, I've got to side with KDR. The sarcasm is just old...I'd like to hear Mario's thoughts without the sarcasm, because they're worth hearing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 08, 2006, 09:41:04 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Yeah, I've got to side with KDR. The sarcasm is just old...I'd like to hear Mario's thoughts without the sarcasm, because they're worth hearing.
I dunno about you... But I liked the "Flop of Mana" bit.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 09, 2006, 07:45:56 AM
I agree its gotten old, its like with the M. Night Shamylan movies and the surprise twist at the end, the first few times he did it it was cool but after that it starts to get annoying.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on March 09, 2006, 08:14:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
He's pulling that number for over a year now. The dead hore is nothing more than pulp now.
I'm not sure if that's a typo of the word horse or whore.  Either way, it made me laugh.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 09, 2006, 08:15:47 AM
I wanted to write horse but considering Mario's infatuation with the GTA games the other option seems more appropriate.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 09, 2006, 08:26:19 AM
Keep it up, Mario!  It's better than imaginary games being announced for Nintendo's imaginary next-gen system!

YOU'RE THE DOG NOW, MAN
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 09, 2006, 03:01:56 PM
DSL - 68,438
DS - 49,118
PSP - 43,110
PS2 - 25,778
GBASP - 5,493
GBM - 3,213
GC - 1,489
Xbox360 - 1,240
Xbox - 101
GBA - 98

Xbox moves up a place and back into the triple digits, momentum! DS Lite coudl have been much higher, but it should continue selling as high as the shipments are for probably the entire year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 09, 2006, 03:08:42 PM
Ugh, < 70k units shipped last week?

I'm in tears =(
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on March 09, 2006, 03:49:40 PM
Wait.. the DS outsold all others combined?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 09, 2006, 03:59:39 PM
Yep, the DS is tearing the Land of the Rising Sun apart...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: stevey on March 09, 2006, 04:04:08 PM
noooo xbox outsold gba
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 09, 2006, 04:13:05 PM
I swear if I ever go to Japan I'm going to buy like 200 old-model GBAs just to throw this whole thing off.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 09, 2006, 08:24:43 PM
Mario: I suppose counting for that list stopped before the remaining two colours were released?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 09, 2006, 10:48:28 PM
Huh? DS Lite sales didn't include the other two colours if that's what you're asking, just white, because the others still aren't out yet. They come out tomorrow I believe! Next weeks DS sales should be even higher because of it, despite them only being in the chart for 2 days they're going to sell out in a day anyway.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on March 10, 2006, 06:02:14 AM
Are the dsl's definitely coming out 2moro? They better because if they don't i'm going to be so angry I will right a letter of my disappointment to nintendo detailing how they are preventing me from buying games for the system since I no longer have my old ds.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 10, 2006, 06:09:54 AM
LOL, I hope you have enough stamps to get it to Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 10, 2006, 06:10:48 AM
Lik Sang sound like they are already shipping those out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 10, 2006, 06:49:36 AM
If my DSL ships tomorrow I will sing from the rooftops across campus.

That, and end spring break early to come back to the dorm and pick up my package =D
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 10, 2006, 10:32:43 AM
I'd be flat f*ck stunned if my DSL shipped tomorrow, but I'd be one happy bastard to boot.

Lik-Sang has this to say on the matter:

Quote

We are deeply sorry for the long delay, but we truly don't know when remaining orders will be shipped out next. As per current circumstances, it looks like it could even be April before the entire backlog will be cleared. It all strongly depends on Nintendo's production and shipping schedule. Please understand that Nintendo's exact shipping and production schedule is unknown, so that only the heads of Nintendo knows if they will ship more units tomorrow, next week, or maybe end of March.

As soon as units hit the market, Lik Sang will snatch some of them. We unfortunately don't know yet when that will be, and how many units will make their way through from Japan to our warehouse. Next time we will get stock could be tomorrow, but it could as well be in a week or later. We also don't know if the next time when we will get stock we will receive 10 units, 23 units, or maybe even over 500 units. It is something impossible to predict. This chaotic context is also the reason why the price has been hiked everywhere compared to the initial "suggested" tag. Lik Sang is no exception on this and had to take a 30 US$ raise from suppliers, but judging by other places, it turns out we are still the cheapest offering around the net right now, despite the last minute mark-up. In short: Everybody is affected, in and out of Japan.

All this for sure leaves some of us asking what the heck is wrong right now at Nintendo of Japan. Nintendo DS is currently the hottest selling product of the Kyoto based firm and in fact is probably the fastest selling video game machine on the marketplace if you judge by the sales charts of the last six months. It's in Japan that demand is the strongest. Yet, Nintendo managed to strike the island with a shortage of standard Nintendo DSes from January 5th till February 28th, and by the time the NDS Lite finally comes to the rescue, it is largely under-produced, and brought to the store shelves way too slow. One has to wonder what is going on. This sure doesn't look like the perfect plan, as there is a lot of missed sales at stake. This proves that even a big corporation like Nintendo is just run by human beings and can face problems and crises, same as everybody else does. We truly wish them good luck at facing the crisis!

One thing is sure: until now Lik Sang successfully got each single customer his own console on all past systems releases ever. We won't let you down. Please understand and hang in there with us, the storm will calm down and in the end it will be all good.


Maybe all of Nintendo's factories are tied up with building Revs? I can dream...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on March 10, 2006, 11:58:57 AM
Quote

This sure doesn't look like the perfect plan, as there is a lot of missed sales at stake.


That's crap.

"I want to buy a DS Lite, but only within 4 days from now.  If I can't find one, I will banish all thoughts of DS Lite's forever and never agin consider getting one."
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 10, 2006, 12:10:18 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Deguello
Quote

This sure doesn't look like the perfect plan, as there is a lot of missed sales at stake.


That's crap.

"I want to buy a DS Lite, but only within 4 days from now.  If I can't find one, I will banish all thoughts of DS Lite's forever and never agin consider getting one."


More like people who didn't get one after lining up on opening day have a distinct and non-zero possibility of forgoing a purchase now that their interest has waned.

Edit: For instance, I'm considering cancelling my order because of this ridiculous delay.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on March 10, 2006, 12:21:52 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: RiskyChris
Quote

Originally posted by: Deguello
Quote

This sure doesn't look like the perfect plan, as there is a lot of missed sales at stake.


That's crap.

"I want to buy a DS Lite, but only within 4 days from now.  If I can't find one, I will banish all thoughts of DS Lite's forever and never agin consider getting one."


More like people who didn't get one after lining up on opening day have a distinct and non-zero possibility of forgoing a purchase now that their interest has waned.

Edit: For instance, I'm considering cancelling my order because of this ridiculous delay.

And the fact that unknowing parents will go to the store to buy the handheld their child is asking for, only to find it gone and they decide, rather than having to come back again, they'll just buy the PSP instead because it's "the same thing, right?"
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 10, 2006, 12:54:13 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: RiskyChrisMore like people who didn't get one after lining up on opening day have a distinct and non-zero possibility of forgoing a purchase now that their interest has waned.

Edit: For instance, I'm considering cancelling my order because of this ridiculous delay.
Oh... but interest would never wane for something like xbox360, PS2, PS3.... I'm sure there will people who cancel their orders, heck sure, some who even actually DO never purchase one because of this... but its going to be very few. Just like how PS2/xbox 360 shortages arn't going to wane anyones interests, aside from the fact that we're talking about Nintendo. And Nintendo is always doomed....

Edit:[ And the fact that unknowing parents will go to the store to buy the handheld their child is asking for, only to find it gone and they decide, rather than having to come back again, they'll just buy the PSP instead because it's "the same thing, right?"

Oh comon, since when has a parent bought a competing "toy" that is $130 more. Then convinced to buy a $60-70 memory stick, and $50 game.....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 10, 2006, 04:25:29 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Deguello
Quote

This sure doesn't look like the perfect plan, as there is a lot of missed sales at stake.


That's crap.

"I want to buy a DS Lite, but only within 4 days from now.  If I can't find one, I will banish all thoughts of DS Lite's forever and never agin consider getting one."

PSP sales are higher than they should be though, nobody should need to sink to buying a PSP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on March 10, 2006, 06:27:44 PM
 I have noticed PSP is selling a little better lately. Nothing to worry about though, the DSL will ensure Nintendo's #1 spot (along with the lack of PSP games).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2006, 06:14:32 PM
I agree that the likelihood of interest waning is low, but Lik-Sang is right: there are people lined up to buy DSs and the stores sell out before they even open.

What the hell is taking Nintendo so long?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 11, 2006, 06:18:07 PM
Luigi in a fit of rage at having only one game to himself took off with the whole stash for a while and made Nintendo come find him.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2006, 06:26:47 PM
That, and he hasn't appeared in a Mario Bros. platformer in how long, now?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on March 12, 2006, 07:42:36 AM
The Question is, will Nintendo be able to balance the fervor vs. supply until everyone who wants one gets one? Or will it fade like the 360 mania?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 12, 2006, 08:49:18 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
The Question is, will Nintendo be able to balance the fervor vs. supply until everyone who wants one gets one? Or will it fade like the 360 mania?


There are some big differences:

1. The demand for the 360 was centered around a holiday

2. 360 demand was centered around theoretical software that by and large still hasn't materialized, much of which will probably not be exclusive at any rate. DS demand is centered almost exclusively around already available software which is exclusive.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 12, 2006, 06:49:54 PM
Not to be a 360 fanboy, but it's still almost impossible to find in stores, and when it is there, it doesn't stay in stock very long. I know, I know, the Best Buy where you live has 30 of them, but the one an hour away has none.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on March 12, 2006, 06:59:51 PM
People are still buying that? It's almost spring, why would you need a space heater now? .... Right?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 12, 2006, 08:32:43 PM
More and more areas seem to have surplus stock of XCircles now. It's like the PSP, some areas are constantly sold out while many ohers can't get rid of them anymore.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on March 12, 2006, 08:33:46 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
I know, I know, the Best Buy where you live has 30 of them, but the one an hour away has none.


So the stores around us don't count, but yours does?

Anyway, I have no idea how well the system has been selling around here, only that the Xbox360 game shelves (which are right next to the DS at my store) have been near full ever sense the start of the new year, unlike the DS ones which are pretty barren with a poor selection on account of it (I have never seen Advance Wars DS there, but suspect that they never got it... the bastards).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on March 13, 2006, 02:39:31 AM
Any new news on when the other colored ds lites will be here? If they ship less than they should again, i'm just going to wait until the american one ships. I'm working on my angry letter:

Dear Nintendo,
         I love you guys. I hate you for not releasing enough ds lites, and for being skimpy on revolution details. Keep up the good work.

How's that?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 13, 2006, 04:22:32 PM
Nintendo probably doesn't care whether importers can get one and they already apologized to the Japanese for the shortages.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 13, 2006, 04:41:41 PM
They need to release a DS game called "Import Agent" where you play a Japanese guy sent by Lik-Sang to procure DS Lites from Japanese retailers before they open.

The game will test your ability to navigate crowds, pick locks on doors to gain back entry to the stores, and money management as you attempt to outbid but not overpay against the agents from Play-Asia who are likewise trying to get ahold of the units.

If you haven't gotten your DS Lites and escaped out the back door before the store opens, it's game over as the crowd tears you limb from limb with your prized box of DS Lites, or you have to go through an escape sequence where you make a mad dash for the subway as you keep ahead of the angry crowd with your cargo.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 15, 2006, 03:08:02 PM
Media Create Sales 6 Mar - 12 Mar

01 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 82,000 (2,117,000)
02 NDS Brain Age 2 - 71,000 (1,505,000)
03 PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 (Samurai Warrior) - 49,000 (474,000)
04 NDS English Training - 42,000 (617,000)
05 NDS Brain Age - 41,000 (1,683,000)
06 PS2 Gundam Climax UC - 34,000 (191,000)
07 NDS Seiken Densetsu CHILDREN of MANA - 27,000 (129,000)
08 PSP Valkyrie Profile Lenneth - 21,000 (91,000)
09 NDS Mario Kart DS - 19,000 (1,171,000)
10 PSP Monster Hunter Portable - 17,000 (558,000)

Animal Crossing don't stop! Children of Flop confirmed, third parties will have to try harder.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2006, 03:22:46 PM
Hmm, I wonder what a "Gundam Climax" feels like...

And DAMN, AC is making a killing...

Shame about SD. This reduces its chances of it coming to the US.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on March 15, 2006, 03:30:50 PM
Where'd PGC get those ds lite pics?? They sure as hell don't look like official photos. When I saw them I was like, ah sh!t don't tell me they got shipped and I didn't notice. Asked the other ppl in my house if a dhl guy came today... nope. look in my inbox to see if lik sang sent me a notice... nope. What the hell, now i'm mad at pgc for giving me false hope. You guys get an angry letter too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2006, 03:40:46 PM
My first reaction to the navy blue pictures of theirs was the same as yours.

Dammit, Lik-Sang, I'll storm the Japanese retailers for DS Lites for import! I'll happily stomp flat young girls and the elderly to be the first in line! PUT ME IN, COACH, I WAS BORN FOR THIS MOMENT!!!!1!!1
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on March 15, 2006, 03:42:36 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales 6 Mar - 12 Mar

01 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 82,000 (2,117,000)
02 NDS Brain Age 2 - 71,000 (1,505,000)
03 PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 (Samurai Warrior) - 49,000 (474,000)
04 NDS English Training - 42,000 (617,000)
05 NDS Brain Age - 41,000 (1,683,000)
06 PS2 Gundam Climax UC - 34,000 (191,000)
07 NDS Seiken Densetsu CHILDREN of MANA - 27,000 (129,000)
08 PSP Valkyrie Profile Lenneth - 21,000 (91,000)
09 NDS Mario Kart DS - 19,000 (1,171,000)
10 PSP Monster Hunter Portable - 17,000 (558,000)

Animal Crossing don't stop! Children of Flop confirmed, third parties will have to try harder.

Any sign of system sales?  I wonder if PSP sales went up with DS sales or it they went back down to thier regular 25,000 or so a week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 15, 2006, 03:51:56 PM
No hardware sales yet, they usually come a day after. I expect DS sales to be even higher, since the two new colours came out that week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2006, 03:55:50 PM
I expect DS sales to be exactly the number shipped, +/- 20 units of error.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 15, 2006, 04:16:49 PM
Those photos are from Jonny's DS Lite.  Yes it is from Lik Sang.  No mine hasn't shipped either.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 15, 2006, 04:29:56 PM
Wow holy crap lik sang actually sent units out? When did he preorder that?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2006, 04:40:44 PM
Yes, I would also like to know the date of his preorder. If it was back in January or something, I'm proper f*cked...

When was your preorder placed, Blood?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 15, 2006, 05:11:37 PM
My order was placed on like the 22nd - a week after the colors were announced.  I probably have a long wait, but I still check every day.  I think Jonny's was sent out from one of the first shipments of Navys.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 15, 2006, 06:29:47 PM
When did Jonny preorder? =(
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2006, 06:57:23 PM
You mean Feb. 22nd, right?

I think it was announced on Jan 26th, but I'm not sure.

I placed mine the 16th of Feb for a navy. Haven't heard of it shipping yet.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 15, 2006, 07:14:41 PM
I got my Navy DS Lite a bit earlier than most people.  Guess what, we're also getting Hunters and Tetris DS this week.  It's all to help us bring you coverage on time, or at least as early as possible.  I'm reviewing the Lite, btw.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 16, 2006, 06:41:17 AM
No worries there.

We're just wondering when you ordered your DSL so we know how relatively close/far Chris' and mine are from shipment.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on March 16, 2006, 08:01:14 AM
Oh the injustice of it all.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 16, 2006, 04:52:00 PM
DSL 89,790
DS 48,947
PSP 40,091
PS2 22,476
GBASP 4,235
GBM 3,020
GC 1,360
Xbox360 1,296
GBA 65
Xbox 63

I'm still concerned at how high the PSP numbers are.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on March 16, 2006, 05:23:47 PM
Nintendo is and will be doomed for several centuries.

Seriously psp games barely get to the top 10, for that matter lets drop Ipod numbers in the mix and claim doom on video games in general Mario style , because sales of the psp hardware have little to do with the games the system has.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 16, 2006, 05:52:51 PM
DS  138,717
PSP  40,000

I wouldn't be that worried about it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 16, 2006, 06:02:42 PM
Not to be a pain, but when did Jon preorder his?

Frankly, I'm fingering the cancel button on this order. If it's going to take THAT much longer, I might as well wait for the US release.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 16, 2006, 06:07:31 PM
I'm a little worried about the 138K, since I'm assuming that's every one they were able to produce... That's only what, 6 million a year? They better get production up or its going to take 20 years to make sure everyone in Japan's got one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 16, 2006, 06:22:02 PM
Smash_brother, it's barely been two weeks.  You can do whatever you like, but I'd wait at least until the US release is official before you cancel.

jasonditz, there are simply initial production problems.   They'll be able to make more in the long run.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 16, 2006, 06:33:34 PM
I didn't preorder; just requested the unit directly through Lik-Sang, so I was not in the normal queue and cannot help you determine when yours might show up.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 16, 2006, 06:38:23 PM
Can you pretend you need another one (white) and send it to me?

=( I'm so desperate...  I don't own a DS right now, but I do own MKDS and Jump Superstars.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 16, 2006, 07:58:34 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: RiskyChris
Can you pretend you need another one (white) and send it to me?

=( I'm so desperate...  I don't own a DS right now, but I do own MKDS and Jump Superstars.


Ok, your story beats mine.

Ah, I didn't realize Lik-Sang sent you one directly.

I'll hold off.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on March 16, 2006, 08:38:13 PM
I'm guessing that Navy is the most popular color, and thus we'll have to wait the longest.  If you e-mailed Lik Sang to change it to Ice Blue, you'd probably get it sooner, but you'd also have Ice Blue to carry around.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 16, 2006, 09:00:53 PM
A poll on my own site reveals the same.

The navy orders are likely backed up for miles worth of excel sheet...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 16, 2006, 09:32:27 PM
Unfortunately, Navy does not look nearly as cool as I'd hoped.  It's not even close to black, and the color noticeably shifts at the edges of the clamshell.  Also, the inside faces are more lightly colored and are not glossy.  I haven't seen the Crystal White model up close, but I would guess these issues are less prominent.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on March 17, 2006, 08:04:40 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I'm guessing that Navy is the most popular color, and thus we'll have to wait the longest.  If you e-mailed Lik Sang to change it to Ice Blue, you'd probably get it sooner, but you'd also have Ice Blue to carry around.
People are so insecure about their electronics.  I know some people who are actually insecure enough that they get embarrassed that I have a pink Razr just because they think their manliness is called into question by association.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 17, 2006, 08:57:59 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
People are so insecure about their electronics.  I know some people who are actually insecure enough that they get embarrassed that I have a pink Razr just because they think their manliness is called into question by association.


I don't think it's an issue of security so much as the color being, well, fugly.

It looks like a big piece of sugarless gum, IMO, anyway.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on March 17, 2006, 09:20:32 AM
Quote

It looks like a big piece of sugarless gum, IMO, anyway.
Ouch.  Well, it's T-Mobile's pink, not Cingular's pink, so it doesn't really have the gum thing going on.

(Or maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better.)  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 17, 2006, 10:19:51 AM
Nah, those have different color schemes on the outside and they're not a rectangular prism in the same way the DSL is.

The iPod Shuffle has a similar problem, where it looks like you should chew it for 15-20 minutes then spit it into the garbage.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2006, 12:45:18 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
Quote

It looks like a big piece of sugarless gum, IMO, anyway.
Ouch.  Well, it's T-Mobile's pink, not Cingular's pink, so it doesn't really have the gum thing going on.

(Or maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better.)
Only a real man can wear pink
But there is no way a real MAN would own a pink phone
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 18, 2006, 05:57:06 AM
Its funny how the DS in one week in Japan sells more than the PSP did in one month in NA.

(Feb NPD puts PSP at 170,000 and DS at 150,000)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 18, 2006, 07:25:07 AM
Quote

(Feb NPD puts PSP at 170,000 and DS at 150,000)
Really? Damn. I thought the DS's holiday would give it momentum, but I guess not. Now we'll have to see if MPH and Tetris make a difference.. And then Mario later on.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 18, 2006, 07:33:15 PM
Has PSP overtaken DS yet in the US? I've stopped following NPD because I think it's wildly inacurate, but I think the numbers are very close. Brain Training is on its way though
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 18, 2006, 07:44:44 PM
I don't think so.. it's only been marginally better than the DS for a while now,  so with the DS launch, there's still some separation.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on March 18, 2006, 07:46:53 PM
I'd like to see a comparison of the number of hours of DS usage over that of the PSP.  Seriously, what are all those PSP owners doing with their systems?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Svevan on March 18, 2006, 08:54:00 PM
I have seen a few PSPs around, but I have never seen anyone play one. I DO see people watching movies and listening to music with them. I have an iPod for music (a better device besides) and would never watch a movie on a portable anything. So aside from, I don't know, the sudden and unexpected release of a good game, I see no reason to buy one.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on March 18, 2006, 11:10:58 PM
Rather than just hour usage, do game hour usage for psp.  I'm sure it'll be about 10:1 ratio.  PSP is used as a movie player for planes and an mp3 player mainly.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 19, 2006, 08:27:15 AM
I still might get one partialy for watching movies on but I am getting aprtable dvd player for my car anyways so I dontknwo buttehre is a few games i want unless they come over to DS. Seams liek Midway and Sega are giving psp alot more suport lately also. I am stillwiating to see who gets MK first. I want MK for my DS but If it goes to PSP Ill be getting one then.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2006, 09:01:51 AM
I suspect Sony of buying their own stock back to increase sales to encourage software development for the console.

Seriously, I do.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 19, 2006, 01:12:30 PM
If they're selling it for a loss, then that's the smart thing to do..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Guitar Smasher on March 19, 2006, 01:46:54 PM
Wouldn't that be illegal though?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2006, 05:47:04 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Guitar Smasher
Wouldn't that be illegal though?


So is inventing a critic to give your own movies rave reviews but that didn't stop Sony either.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 19, 2006, 06:00:35 PM
Now Smash Bro,Sony is still one of the greatest companies on the face of the planet, nevermidn they are the devil they still kick @$$
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 19, 2006, 06:48:38 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Guitar Smasher
Wouldn't that be illegal though?


Doing so would artificially inflate revenues, so unless they disclose that they're doing it, it's probably a violation of SEC regulations. That's actually not too far off what Enron was doing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on March 19, 2006, 07:33:50 PM
Quote

Now Smash Bro,Sony is still one of the greatest companies on the face of the planet, nevermidn they are the devil they still kick @$$

so, great like 'Voldemort' great?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 20, 2006, 08:31:08 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
Doing so would artificially inflate revenues, so unless they disclose that they're doing it, it's probably a violation of SEC regulations. That's actually not too far off what Enron was doing.


It'd be much easier to hide it for Sony, though. I'm sure their books are filled with transactions which are difficult to trace.

All they'd need to do is donate a couple mil to a "charity" which would then make that money disappear.

It sounds far-fetched, but the reality is that it would definitely explain why software sells so poorly on the PSP yet they seem to have millions upon millions of them sold. The DS has several million sellers so software is not an issue there, but I don't know if the PSP has ever made those numbers.

Anyone have links or sources on the subject?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 20, 2006, 08:55:05 AM
Last I heard Lumines was the top selling PSP title, and its sold less than a million copies worldwide.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 20, 2006, 09:08:17 AM
Monster Rancher for the PSP seems to have tapered off at around 600,000 units sold in Japan (not sure if it's even stateside yet).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 20, 2006, 09:56:21 AM
I bet they could do some neat minigames in a DS version of Monster Rancher: I loved the GBA verison.

Here's an idea: you know how the Playstation ones you insert a disc in the drive to generate a monster? How about for the DS version you insert a GBA Cart?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on March 20, 2006, 11:22:10 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: wandering
Quote

Now Smash Bro,Sony is still one of the greatest companies on the face of the planet, nevermidn they are the devil they still kick @$$

so, great like 'Voldemort' great?


LoL that's great I love that. Hoooray for Harry Potter.

The wand chooses the wizard, remember...  I think we must expect great things from you, Mr. Potter, after all, He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named did great things -- terrible yes, but great.


He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is Voldemort :-P

oh and whats up with the ds lites?? any "normal people" (not video game site editors, cuz they're special) get their's yet?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 20, 2006, 11:31:10 AM
I was about to call you a nerd, then I remembered this is a video game forum.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Guitar Smasher on March 20, 2006, 04:14:27 PM
"It'd be much easier to hide it for Sony, though. I'm sure their books are filled with transactions which are difficult to trace.

All they'd need to do is donate a couple mil to a "charity" which would then make that money disappear.

It sounds far-fetched, but the reality is that it would definitely explain why software sells so poorly on the PSP yet they seem to have millions upon millions of them sold. The DS has several million sellers so software is not an issue there, but I don't know if the PSP has ever made those numbers.

Anyone have links or sources on the subject?"

Well I can see the motive in doing it, but why stop at systems?  I'm sure buying games (bigger sales) would create the illusion of smaller risks to developpers.

This would be really interesting if it were true.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 20, 2006, 04:50:09 PM
I'm just speculating, but like I said, if Sony's willing to invent a film critic to give glowing reviews to craptacular movies, where's the line for them?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 20, 2006, 05:23:11 PM
well wandering I was being sarcastic, I hate Sony, well Playstation to be exact I actualy by a lot, practicaly everything I have, sony products. I have great faith in their electronics they rarely fail and are always high quality (playstation excluded as its just crap well Ps2 and Psp ps1 was good enough)


I have no desire to ever get a PSP for any reason, but I would like to replace my Ipod with a new Walkman mp3 player mostly because they use those memory cards that can be upgraded where as once Ipod is full the only way to upgrade is buy a bigger Ipod. And I already bought 2 I dont need to buy anymore.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 20, 2006, 05:43:59 PM
that'd be a pricey MP3 player: a PSP and a 2 GB memory stick costs as much as a 60 GB iPod.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 20, 2006, 11:35:25 PM
I thought buying your own product to inflate sales numbers and make it into the charts was SOP in the music industry? It's not illegal as far as I can tell. Bribing DJs, now that is illegal but the courts didn't see a reason to fine them for more than one million dollars when convicting them for a repeat offense. The proper reaction would be to ban the convicts from commerce or even forcefully dissolve them.

I think we must expect great things from you, Mr. Potter, after all, He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named did great things -- terrible yes, but great.

Don't worry, you can call his name as long as you don't go through the entire summoning process:

THE FIFTY NAMES OF MARDUK
1.The First Name is MARDUK.
The Lord of Lords, Master of Magicians. His name should not be called
except when no other will do, and it is the most terrible
responsibility to do so. The word of his calling is DUGGA.

This, the first name of MARDUK, should only be used when life is
threatened. It is not wise to use it on any other occasion, of
flippantly in way. To do so would be to render the other seals and
names worthless, for MARDUK would abandon you to your fate.


See? Al-Hazred is using the name outside of the invocation and it doesn't seem like Marduk abandoned him (after all, he wrote down the 49 other names as well). On the other hand, he did not say Yog...

p.S.: If the invokation did not work the plane crash on 9/11/2001 was not enough to release Him, after all a whole side of the Pentagon has to be destroyed to break the seal.

(Now THIS is serious geek literature.)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on March 21, 2006, 01:11:54 AM
Quote

Bribing DJs, now that is illegal but the courts didn't see a reason to fine them for more than one million dollars when convicting them for a repeat offense.


Now see, I've never understood why it's perfectly legal for a company to pay a radio station to play a 30 second jingle to try to sell a product, but it's 100% illegal for a company to pay a radio station to play a 3 min jingle to try and sell a product...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 21, 2006, 04:00:37 AM
Because these big companies pay the stations to play nothing but their products (and some inane babbling), cutting out competitors and pretending these selections were done by the listeners (in fact they even hired people to call during the "audience suggestions" and ask for the songs they want played). The charts are faked, those "newly discovered stars" were preplanned by the companies, the whole deal is a big lie. I think this law was put in place after seeing how the music industry acts, not a priori.

Many normally legal actions become a crime if you are a monopoly.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 21, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
it depends on how you go about doing it. I always ask my friends to call in and request my songs on the radio and they do it for free. just to hear my songs on the radio.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 23, 2006, 04:53:44 PM
Media Create 13 - 19 March

1. PS2 Final Fantasy XII - 1,764,266 NEW
2. NDS Animal Crossing - 70,932 (2,187,805)
3. NDS Brain Training 2 - 67,222 (1,571,729)
4. NDS English Training - 39,940 (656,746)
5. NDS Brain Training - 39,718 (1,722,597)
6. PS2 Samaurai Warriors 2 - 25,295 (498,872)
7. NDS Mario Kart DS - 17,928 (1,189,109)
8. NDS Children of Mana - 17,574 (146,700)
9. PS2 Guitar Freaks V and Drum Mania V - 17,520 NEW
10. NDS Keroro Gunso - 15,650 NEW

DSL 104,452
PS2 66,670
DS 32,105
PSP 31,848
GBASP 4,290
GBM 3,087
GC 1,318
Xbox360 1,039
GBA 131
Xbox 108
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 23, 2006, 05:11:30 PM
Haha, nice.  PSP sold less than normal DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 23, 2006, 05:23:19 PM
1.7 million for FF12!!!! Wow...Nintendo really does need to get FF exclusively on the Rev...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 23, 2006, 05:30:13 PM
Or Dragon Quest..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 23, 2006, 08:01:12 PM
1,764,266 new fools to pity. Ahahahahahaaa!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on March 24, 2006, 12:04:32 AM
FFXII sold almost 2 million in it's launch week!? Wow... I've read that it wasn't as high as previous FF launches though. Imagine if Nintendo did get exclusive SE support? Would it bring them back on top automatically at the announcement?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on March 24, 2006, 05:01:33 AM
Japan has just a terrible taste, is shocking how they produce the best games in the world, but the highest selling genre is still the outdated turn based rpgs, Ive heard FFXII has some real-time elments though

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 24, 2006, 06:38:14 AM
Not just some, it's MMORPG-like realtime combat.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 24, 2006, 07:41:05 AM
They buy the games for the stories, not the outdated combat systems.

Hell, Xenosagas 1&2 might as well have had a system where you press any button to win a battle and continue to the next cutscene.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on March 24, 2006, 07:45:26 AM
"Japan has just a terrible taste, is shocking how they produce the best games in the world, but the highest selling genre is still the outdated turn based rpgs"

They probably make fun of us for buying the same football game every year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 24, 2006, 07:55:52 AM
I love those turn based RPGs myself. Baten Kaitos, Xenosaga and DQ8 were some of the finest games made this generation.

The stories are important, but then there's games like Star Ocean, which had a story I was really getting into and a battle system that made the game virtually unplayable. I think I'd pay somebody $20 to play through the damned thing start to finish just so I could watch the story unfold.

I think the Rev might be a great system for those turn based RPGs too... if you think about it, a lot of the complex controls are pointless in the genre, you could probably play a lot of these games just with the one-handed Revmote.

I also think a series like Dragon Quest would do well to switch platforms. I know it sells insanely well in Japan, but in the US it seems to get buried under a sea of games with bigger budgets. DQ8 would've been the centerpiece RPG on the Cube, while on the PS2 it was just a way for people to get the FF12 preview.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 24, 2006, 08:13:41 AM
Hell, Xenosagas 1&2 might as well have had a system where you press any button to win a battle and continue to the next cutscene.

Dunno, I found myself on the brink of death in that game much more often than in FFX (non-boss battles, obviously).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on March 24, 2006, 08:18:10 AM
Shouldn't they be making fun of the Japanese who're buying Winning Eleven twice a year? Japan is just as mainstream as the US, if not more so. But there seems to be a better market for less popular stuff. I guess that can be attributed to the lack of the stereotypical gamer. Anyone is likely to play games there, particularly now with the success of the DS. I hope the Rev will do the same here.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 24, 2006, 08:32:23 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k

Dunno, I found myself on the brink of death in that game much more often than in FFX (non-boss battles, obviously).


I didn't play either but I did have a friend who used the entire playing of Xenosaga 2 as a screensaver. Thus, I saw it frequently and it always seemed like very small bits of gameplay through very long cutscenes.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 24, 2006, 08:04:12 PM
The cutscenes seem to get shorter once the game gets going but some parts (space combat, for example) should have ben playable instead of cutscenes...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on March 30, 2006, 04:45:44 PM
Looks like Pokemon Rangers is starting out with 193,000 sales in its first week.  Animal Crossing WW is still a juggurnaut with 82,000+ sold and Brain Training 1 & 2 continue to sell well.

Guess it's another week of huge DS and DSL sales in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on March 30, 2006, 05:15:13 PM
Media Create Sales: 20 - 26 March

1. Final Fantasy XII (PS2) - 237,678 (2,001,944)
2. Pokémon Rangers (NDS) - 193,337
3. Ace Combat Zero: The Belkin War (PS2) - 109,100
4. Animal Crossing: Wild World (NDS) - 82,797 (2,270,601)
5. Brain Training 2 (NDS) - 76911 (1,648,640)
6. Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Empires (PS2) - 54,360
7. English Training (NDS) - 46,411 (703,156)
8. Brain Training (NDS) - 46,223 (1,768,819)
9. Harukanaru Jikuu no Uchi de 3 (PS2) - 45,636
10. Mario Kart DS (NDS) - 21,691 (1,210,800)

DSL 119,986
DS 39,307
PS2 34,169
PSP 31,077
GBASP 5,627
GBM 4,883
GC 1,458
Xbox360 1,415
Xbox 117
GBA 98

Things starting to look a bit more rosy. Keep those DS shipments coming Nintendo.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on March 30, 2006, 07:22:12 PM
Still amazes me how bad the 360 is doing there, anyway it's always great to see the number of DS' Nintendo has been able to sell there, hope the steam on the DS and DSL continue.

Also, nice to see the lack of sarcasm Mario.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on March 30, 2006, 07:25:37 PM
What amazes me is that the DSL outsold every other system (including the original DS) combined.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Caterkiller on March 30, 2006, 08:05:34 PM
Its pretty amazing really. I can't believe how well the DSL and DS are doing. I mean the DS alone is surpasing PSP sales. I could really see the Revolution pulling a DS, I mean it may not be as succesful, but there is no way its going to pull a GCN.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on March 30, 2006, 08:07:51 PM
so now that UMD sales are falling off and movie studios are dropping support, and Tetris DS is out how much longer before Sony throws int he towel and kills of  the PSP?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on March 30, 2006, 08:15:09 PM
For practical purposes I don't see Sony giving up on the PSP for awhile. Anyhow, it's sold well enough that it's probably not losing them any money (the same probably can not be said of the retailers with the huge UMD sections).

I would say the only way the PSP gets EOLed early is if the PS3 gets off to a really poor start and Sony corporate decides to pull the plug on the whole game division.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 30, 2006, 08:19:05 PM
Sony will probably release the next PSP version with less emphasis on the UMD aspect.

DS has almost a 3.5 million lead on the PSP
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2006, 03:14:07 AM
DS has almost a 3.5 million lead on the PSP

In Japan or worldwide?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2006, 07:59:03 AM
I'm a little sad that Xbox sales surpassed GBA sales.  If I'm not mistaken, that's the first time this has happened in a while.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2006, 09:29:33 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
DS has almost a 3.5 million lead on the PSP

In Japan or worldwide?


The dropping of UMD support by major movie studios further fuels the theory that Sony is buying back its own PSP units in an attempt to attract more developers.

It's clearly not working, as people wind up looking at the sales numbers of games and movies and those are terrible.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2006, 10:13:32 AM
The dropping of UMD support by major movie studios further fuels the theory that Sony is buying back its own PSP units in an attempt to attract more developers.

Not necessarily. UMD movies were a stupid idea in first place. Even if I had a PSP I wouldn't buy any of them. The PSP can be used as a media playback device so you can theoretically use one without any UMDs, others will have one with only one game and no movies, etc.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2006, 10:35:20 AM
Thing is, with as many PSP sales as Sony would like to boast, you'd think that it would be enough to warrant continuing production of UMD movies.

I'd expect that SOMEONE would be buying PSP movies if they only trail the DS by 3.5 mil units sold, but judging by what the studios are doing, my theory still stands.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 31, 2006, 01:00:37 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
DS has almost a 3.5 million lead on the PSP

In Japan or worldwide?


This is just japan, the WW number is probably slightly higher.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 31, 2006, 03:57:47 PM
There's not nearly enough PSPs out there to warrant UMD movie sales if you ask me. UMD movies were just a stupid idea, especially if standalone UMB players come out (actually I think there are some). Why invent a new format greatly inferior to  the soon to be obsolete DVD?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on March 31, 2006, 04:57:06 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
Why invent a new format greatly inferior to  the soon to be obsolete DVD?


I don't know about you, but I haven't heard of a lot of people actually ready to accept HD DVDs or Blu-Ray with open arms, even if they are still aways from release.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2006, 06:52:08 PM
Yes but if you were choosing a new format to get a player for, would you take the one that does less than your current one?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 01, 2006, 06:52:27 AM
Discs are not the future, online delivery is, Discs at best have a place as storage mediums, but they are not the future when it comes to games, movies, etc.  Blu-ray and HD-DVD are dumb moves by the industry, they're fighting over a dying market.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 01, 2006, 07:31:53 AM
It's true.

iTunes finished dominating music and they've moved on to TV shows. The complete seasons of shows not only tend to be cheaper, but you can get them FAR in advance of when you can get them on DVD, in most cases, you can buy the episode the very day after it airs.

Once the movie studios realize this trend, they'll start releasing movies on the service as well and it'll be all downhill from there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 01, 2006, 07:51:39 AM
There is no comparison between iTunes and TV DVD. One is hideous, full-screen, pay-for-stuff-that-was-free-last-night crap, the other is high quality and actually worth paying for.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 01, 2006, 07:53:09 AM
Storage medium will always be around, because people, like me, like to have physical copies of things.  Sure I can download entire seasons and tv series and store them on my hard drive, but what happens when your computer kicks the bucket, or your hard drive crashes, everything that you have downloaded is gone, and you are either S.O.L or you have to start all over again.  At least with DVD or anything else, you will always have access to whatever it is... assuming of course that whatever you need to play it on still works.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 01, 2006, 03:43:39 PM
 
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
There is no comparison between iTunes and TV DVD. One is hideous, full-screen, pay-for-stuff-that-was-free-last-night crap, the other is high quality and actually worth paying for.


Quote

Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Storage medium will always be around, because people, like me, like to have physical copies of things.  Sure I can download entire seasons and tv series and store them on my hard drive, but what happens when your computer kicks the bucket, or your hard drive crashes, everything that you have downloaded is gone, and you are either S.O.L or you have to start all over again.  At least with DVD or anything else, you will always have access to whatever it is... assuming of course that whatever you need to play it on still works.


Hate to break it to you guys, but you've both missed the point here.

iTunes encodes every song so that it can be shared with 5 users and burned to a CD a limited number of times. After that, it can no longer be burned or shared. The media is encoded to contain the license under which it is supposed to be used.

DVDs are nothing more than data burned to a disc. Shipping millions of copies of the same bit of data inside unique boxes is highly inefficient.

DVD burners are becoming ever more common. My parents even own a DVDR connected to digital cable: they "rent" movies from comcast and record them to DVDs as they come off the TV, and they're not particularly tech-savvy people.

The point is, the online digital media distribution system is already in place for users to download the data from DVDs, special features, menus and all, and burn them to their own DVDs. I've seen burned DVD rips: they're gorgeous, as pristine as they came off the original DVD.

Most people I know, if they can't find a song on iTunes, will simply download it off Limewire or any of the other illegal methods of media theft. Movies will be no exception. I already have friends which have a "download first" rule for movies because movies in general have been so damn bad as of late that they don't want to walk out of a theater feeling fleeced any more.

Soon, movies will be like this too: even the moderately tech-savvy will be able to find them online, and as bandwidth gradually increases, the time it takes to download them diminishes, making it more and more of a possibility.

Selling DVDs from store shelves is a problem because, often, you'll wind up with excess copies of a movie which go to the bargain bin and never sell, eventually being thrown out or sold for $5, well below the price needed to cover the investment.

Imagine that you could guarantee that every copy of your movie or CD would sell. That's essentially what online media distribution is: the utmost efficient method of media distribution, both in terms of cost AND speed. As an example, Amazon will be shipping Scrubs season 3 in May. iTunes already has season 5 available for download. Movies will be up and available for the home user the day after they leave theatres, no more waiting 6 months for a movie you like to come out on DVD.

This is the future of media distribution: you download it, burn it to make your own "hard copy" and that's all there is to it.

Blu-ray and HD-DVD are fighting over the PT boats while the battleship is already pulling out of the port. Either studios can jump on board the digital distribution bandwagon or they can go down with the retail distribution ship in a tremendous display of stubbornness and idiocy.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: decoyman on April 01, 2006, 04:31:43 PM
In one sense, I agree that downloadable content will continue to become more popular, especially with broadband access becoming so widespread.

However, I think it'll be a long time before digital downloads becomes the most popular way to get a hold of your music, tv and movies. As has been said, people like having stuff that they can hold in their hands, look at, read (liner notes, etc.). Perhaps I feel this way because I'm a graphic designer, and tend to really appreciate the "whole package" you get when you buy a CD/DVD/etc. Heck, I bought a spare case from Nintendo.com for my Metroid Prime Hunters demo and printed out box art for it because it didn't feel right without a... well, a "home."

I think there's a parallel between newspapers and Internet news sites and this issue. People have been predicting that newspapers are going the way of the dodo - I mean, how could something that you have to pay for beat something that's FREE... but still, newspapers are all over the place, and will be for the foreseeable future. And again, it's because people like to have something tangible to hang on to, take with them when they go somewhere, etc.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on April 03, 2006, 11:20:10 AM
Celebrate good times come on. Celebration. We're gonna celebrate and have a good time. Celebration. Lik-Sang wants to ship my DS. WOOHOO! right? no! BOOHOO! my friggin card doesn't have enough credit, cuz they still haven't received my last payment that I mailed 2 days ago... what the hell. I called them try to explain that the payment is on the way, and they said to me... ok when we receive it we'll allow the charges. ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH. anyway, at least they got it, and it'll be here soon enough, or at least as soon as the friggin post office puts a fire under their ass and gets my payment out, then the DHL guy needs to stop smoking that L pass it to me, and bring my DSL to my house. Anyone else getting their DSL soon?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MysticGohan on April 03, 2006, 11:27:05 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaryJane
Celebrate good times come on. Celebration. We're gonna celebrate and have a good time. Celebration. Lik-Sang wants to ship my DS. WOOHOO! right? no! BOOHOO! my friggin card doesn't have enough credit, cuz they still haven't received my last payment that I mailed 2 days ago... what the hell. I called them try to explain that the payment is on the way, and they said to me... ok when we receive it we'll allow the charges. ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH. anyway, at least they got it, and it'll be here soon enough, or at least as soon as the friggin post office puts a fire under their ass and gets my payment out, then the DHL guy needs to stop smoking that L pass it to me, and bring my DSL to my house. Anyone else getting their DSL soon?



Hehe I had a dirty thought there for a minute, due to BnM's lil Joke about the Meaning of DSL ( His version ) and I couldn't help but laugh "L pass it to me, and bring my DSL to my house."

:p
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 03, 2006, 01:43:21 PM
With the downloadable movie debate, I thought this was interesting...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on April 03, 2006, 03:54:42 PM
MJ - http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=15219
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on April 03, 2006, 06:07:48 PM
Lmao I thought it was a thread for a game, and I figured if the game was worth the weight of it's name either PGC or IGN would have something on it already and didn't bother checking, I'll be part of the Elite soon enough. I can't wait.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 03, 2006, 07:52:47 PM
What the Hell does Canada know about anything?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 03, 2006, 08:44:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
What the Hell does Canada know about anything?
It seems that not only did your fingers do the typing, they did the thinking too. I don't expect anyone with an IQ less than 63 to understand what the word "ignorant" means, but please, humour me.

That news is on several major sites; look it up if you want to. A post like that will get you nowhere, but I expect that, given how benighted you are, you're pretty pleased with yourself.

I don't often lash out like this, and even if what you wrote was a joke, it still shows how myopic you are.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 03, 2006, 09:26:45 PM
I always welcome news from America's hat. (sorry, I had to)

In all seriousness, I trust Canada's news above and beyond that of the US. In fact, I trust Canada in general more than the US. Canada has proven in many ways that it understands the intrinsic principles which ensure that the country and its people live in balance, and with the foresight to understand that, when you sack your own education budget, there's nowhere for the country to go but into the toilet.

Shame I cannot say the same of the US. In the end, we're Canada's jockstrap (and we all know what that makes Florida...).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 03, 2006, 11:25:18 PM
You know, "shipped" doesn't mean much. I'm waiting for almost a month now for the last shipment I ordered from Lik-Sang.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on April 04, 2006, 12:42:57 AM
Well that all depends on the shipping you pick of course.  I can't stand Lik Sang's low-end shipping, so if I order something I make sure I can track it.  My package shipped out just over 24 hours ago and it is already in the area and should be here in another day.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 04, 2006, 04:21:41 AM
Until High Speed Internet is available to the majority of the US, Downloading will still just be a more glorified niche.  There are problems with downloading, I see them from time to time.  When a download is complete, you go to open what you just downloaded and find out that the file is corrupted and you have to download again.  Being on dialup, because High Speed is not available in my area unless I want to pay arms and legs for it to be brought back to my house (and I am not exaggerating, it would be expensive because I live far back off the road, deep in the woods.) having to download something large is time consuming, and having to do it twice or more is annoying, so being able to buy something in a store is still the way for me.  It may cost more, but I will be less aggravated, and that is worth it to me.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 04, 2006, 05:12:15 AM
Wow relax guy, it's just a joke. Now excuse me while I look up myopic.

I have excellent vision it turns out (20/10), but thanks for your concern.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 04, 2006, 08:42:26 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Until High Speed Internet is available to the majority of the US, Downloading will still just be a more glorified niche.  There are problems with downloading, I see them from time to time.  When a download is complete, you go to open what you just downloaded and find out that the file is corrupted and you have to download again.  Being on dialup, because High Speed is not available in my area unless I want to pay arms and legs for it to be brought back to my house (and I am not exaggerating, it would be expensive because I live far back off the road, deep in the woods.) having to download something large is time consuming, and having to do it twice or more is annoying, so being able to buy something in a store is still the way for me.  It may cost more, but I will be less aggravated, and that is worth it to me.


Umm... it is available in the vast majority of the US. Very few of the almost 300 million of us actually live in the woods.

But seriously, can you not get satellite access or anything? I was under the impression that they covered virtually the entire lower 48.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on April 04, 2006, 01:08:37 PM
same here everybody I know, (I know at least one person in each of the eastern border states hooray for me! and some in pennsylvania, ohio, and michigan, and two in cali am I special or what?) has some form of broadband internet service, cable, dsl, or satellite, one lucky friggin bum has T1 cuz his daddy is daddy bigbanks.
but it is all over the place.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on April 04, 2006, 03:05:51 PM
yeah the broadband verses dial up debate  is so irrelevant now because the few people who dont have broadband only dont have it because they dont look into it.


You can get satelite internet anywhere and dsl is over the phone lines so if you have dial up you can get dsl. try contacting yahoo sbc or one of the national providers dont ask aol or any of the stupid local phone companies cuz they dont usualy know crap about anything. theres also wireless cable thatc an also provide high speed internet so unless you live deep in the woods up in the mountains where theres not even phone lines and radio signals you can get dsl or cable internet some way some how. Sure you might have to pay somewhere close to 34 dollars a month for it but its more than worth it to get rid of dial up, not just due to speed but reliablity and its always on so you dont have to worry about missing phone calls.

I have friends who live down in the snake river canyon who cant get cell service or local radio and who are out of city limits and no cable whoc an still get dsl.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 04, 2006, 07:40:36 PM
Even if you have a clear southern view, like we have here, doesn't mean squat.  We tried, but were told that the satelitte we would have to use is not in operation yet, to call back later.  Screw that.  DSL is not available in my area, have been on a waiting list for a few years now, tired of waiting.  And while cable is more or less available, it would cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars to bring it back to the house because our driveway is rather long, it's at least a 10-15 minute normal walk speed, one way to the mailbox, so I usually drive to get the mail.  It would cost at least 1,000.00+ just to install.  Too much to spend, even if it's a one time expense.

I still think that the majority of America is not on high speed.  It is mainly in the most populated area's and then an over flow or whatever into surrounding areas.  There are still a lot of people that don't have access yet.  And the costs are also taken into account.  Just because you have the service available, doesn't mean you can afford it.  the costs have come down, but some people just can't afford even 30.00 a month or even a little less.

And I do not live in a small isolated town.  I may live in the woods, but I am freaking 5 miles away from everything I need to get too, stores hospitals, schools.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 04, 2006, 07:54:22 PM
He's right Broadband penetration in the US is still pretty poor, only 15th in the world.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 04, 2006, 08:21:01 PM
The issue isn't what is overall broadband penetration, but what is broadband pentration amongst the target audience. I would say that at least 50% of console owners (including if Rev becomes more mainstream) will have Broadband, which is definitely NOT a niche. I'd imagine that much more like 75% of GameCube owners have it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MysticGohan on April 04, 2006, 08:27:18 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: animecyberrat
yeah the broadband verses dial up debate  is so irrelevant now because the few people who dont have broadband only dont have it because they dont look into it.


You can get satelite internet anywhere and dsl is over the phone lines so if you have dial up you can get dsl. try contacting yahoo sbc or one of the national providers dont ask aol or any of the stupid local phone companies cuz they dont usualy know crap about anything. theres also wireless cable thatc an also provide high speed internet so unless you live deep in the woods up in the mountains where theres not even phone lines and radio signals you can get dsl or cable internet some way some how. Sure you might have to pay somewhere close to 34 dollars a month for it but its more than worth it to get rid of dial up, not just due to speed but reliablity and its always on so you dont have to worry about missing phone calls.

I have friends who live down in the snake river canyon who cant get cell service or local radio and who are out of city limits and no cable whoc an still get dsl.


Not necessary, You would have to live pretty near the tower in order to get dsl, otherwise the further you are the slower it is. Despite having a phone line does not necessary gurrantee you can get dsl, you'll still need a provider and in most areas that may not be for quite sometime.

It took several years before my area could have dsl ( Which I have, 5mb connection )

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 04, 2006, 08:38:14 PM
43 million households have broadband connections right now. In the past 3 years, the US went from 2/3 of internet connected households using dialup to 2/3 using broadband. High speed internet access is not some rare thing that's restricted to huge metropolitan areas anymore, it's the rule rather than the exception. Look at what you originally said:

"Until High Speed Internet is available to the majority of the US,"

Not only is it "available" in the majority of the US, it has already been gotten by the majority of the US.



Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 05, 2006, 12:32:32 AM
Careful, "broadband" can mean 256kbaud.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on April 05, 2006, 01:47:51 AM
Yuck

10mbps is stardard fare here. Praise Jesus.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NobleXenon54 on April 05, 2006, 03:26:11 AM
Doesn't satellite Internet suck for playing online games, because of the horrible ping times? I live out in the woods and I can NOT get any form of high speed Internet for online game playing. Seriously, I only live 3 miles from the CO box and can not get DSL. The are no cable lines, wireless towers, or anything. The only way I can get it is if I move., I even looked at my IP to see what their DSL offers, and it is only 512kbps. If anyone here wants to work for Frontiernet and bury a fiber line for me, please do so.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 05, 2006, 07:11:17 AM
256k is plenty for what we're talking about here though, game downloads.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on April 05, 2006, 07:57:33 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: NobleXenon54
I only live 3 miles from the CO box and can not get DSL.


You could probably get ISDN, or IDSL.  May be cost prohibitive though, you might want to call your phone company and find out.  ISDN's range is just over 3 miles.

Sattelite internet sucks for a ton of reasons - cost, latency (ping times) and upload, since you still use dialup for your upstream.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 05, 2006, 08:10:36 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: hudsonhawk

Sattelite internet sucks for a ton of reasons - cost, latency (ping times) and upload, since you still use dialup for your upstream.


That's no longer true actually. Two way satellite internet access has been available for a few years now.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: bustin98 on April 05, 2006, 10:17:22 AM
Normally, DSL has a limit of 3 'cable' miles. I live less than 3 miles from the CO, but I wasn't able to get it. The reason is the longer the cable, the greater the resistance to the signal. So, someone living next door to the CO will have awesome access while the person at the end of the line will have some speed issues.

Repeaters can be placed on the line, but for some reason US companies have been resistant to the idea, while in Europe its supposedly common place (never been there, only what I heard).

Alot of places are now getting Internet access through electric lines. Not as fast as cable or DSL, but faster than dialup. And someday soon WiMax will be popping up all over the place. Its only a matter of a few years before anyone who wants fast internet will get it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 05, 2006, 07:28:41 PM
I can't believe it's that time of the week already....  Media Create Sales 27 Mar - 2 Apr

1. (PS2 - Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou Europe Championship- 149,000
2. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 - 111,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Motto Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - 86,000 / 1,735,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 86,000 / 2,088,000
5. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond and Pearl e-no Michi - 83,000 / 277,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Oideyo Doubutsu no Mori - 80,000 / 2,350,000
7. (DS, Nintendo) Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - 52,000 / 1,821,000
8. (DS, Nintendo) Eigo ga Nigate na Otona no DS Training: Eigo Zuke - 50,000 / 753,000
9. (PSP, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable - 50,000
10. (PSP, Bandai) Naruto: Narutimate Portable - 41,000

11 PS2 Jikkyou Pachiko Slot ??? ! My Sky NEW
12 PS2 Zettai Zetsumei Toshi (Disaster Report) 2 NEW
13 NDS Mario Kart DS
14 PS2 Ace Combat Zero
15 NDS Xenosaga I/II NEW
16 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou (Dynasty Warriors) 4 Empires
17 X360 RumbleRoses XX NEW
18 PS2 Gunparade Orchestra Green NEW
19 NDS Big Brain Academy
20 NDS Seiken Densetsu CHILDREN of MANA
21 NDS Tamagotchi DS
22 PSP Monster Hunter Portable
23 PS2 Sengoku Musou (Samurai Warrior) 2
24 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taizen
25 NDS San X Land -Let's play at Theme Park- NEW
26 GBA Cryon Shin chan
27 NDS Marheaven DS NEW
28 NDS Contact NEW
29 PS2 BLACK CAT
30 PS2 Monster 2

DS software sales in general are up, both Brain Trainings sold more than last week, FFXII down. Higher Brrain Training sales probably represent a bigger DS Lite shipment. Disappointing debut from Contact...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 05, 2006, 07:45:17 PM
What's up with Xenosaga I/II? This is the first I heard of the DS getting it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 05, 2006, 11:32:29 PM
Missed the thread some months ago? Basically it's a SNES-RPG-style version of both XS eps combined.

I found this interesting:
17 X360 RumbleRoses XX NEW

An XC game in the charts? IN JAPAN???
Interestingly Rumble Roses doesn't sell at all in the west. You can pick the PS2 version up for a tenner or so 'round here, the only game on the shelves that's even cheaper is Second Sight at 5 Euros.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2006, 01:32:09 AM
The sad part about that is Second Sight is a good game. I haven't played Rumble Roses, but I haven't heard anything good about it either.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 06, 2006, 04:52:37 AM
I've read that RR lacks features and characters but the combat engine is a good one and the fights play pretty well.

Almost considered buying Second Sight but then I read that it involves stealth and I'm not buying a stealth game, not even at 5 Euros.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 06, 2006, 05:06:17 AM
I've never understood the popularity of games like that, completely stealth-based games. It's almost as if you bought a game to not play it. Metal Gear Solid = crap, which is why it did so poorly on the Gamecube, Gamecube owners like to be able to play their games, not sneaking around and avoiding all the action.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 06, 2006, 05:49:38 AM
Thief is godly! mgs not so much though, I bought it for my PC and got bored of it pretty quickly. MGS is to focused on its cinematic parts, and with that I agree that the game is almost meant to not be played, but Thief is mind blowing, the tension Ive felt with the game hasnt been match by any other game on any other platform.


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 06, 2006, 06:52:25 AM
Thief indeed ruled. I loved going through that mansion at the beginning and filling the swimming pool with corpses
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 06, 2006, 07:28:49 AM
Brandogg: RailPGs are the games you buy to not play, stealth games usually have a lot of gameplay. I don't like them because the loss condition is usually not defined very well (when can the guard see me?).

NOLF is said to be a good stealth game. Dunno, I've tried Nolf 2 and I don't think it's possible to go through the first level without being seen. That would certainly make ghosting impossible.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 06, 2006, 09:27:12 AM
I can't believe that Contact did so poorly.  I hope Atlus doesn't back out of the North American release.  The thought makes me sad.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2006, 06:25:17 PM
Hardware numbers for last week

DSL 149,371
DS 59,903
PSP 36,943
PS2 33,301
GBASP 6,732
Xbox360 3,258
GBM 2,992
GC 1,492
GBA 151
Xbox 68

DS continues to climb as Nintendo ship more and more, Xbox 360 sales double thanks to the smashing breakaway success of Rumble Roses.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on April 06, 2006, 06:50:46 PM
I don't think this train is ready to stop.... woah
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 06, 2006, 06:57:57 PM
Ummm...

(that's all I can manage to get out)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 06, 2006, 06:59:18 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Missed the thread some months ago? Basically it's a SNES-RPG-style version of both XS eps combined.



Neat, so it's basically just like the PS2 versions only without all the FMV?

I've got two questions now:

1) Did they keep the penis monster from the first game?
2) Will there be a US release?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2006, 07:36:31 PM
MARIO, BRING BACK THE COMMENTARY
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 06, 2006, 07:53:28 PM
am I alone in wanting to play at theme park?

I wish Nintendo would see to it that we get more obscure localizations instead of just the million-seller stuff.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 07, 2006, 04:33:27 AM
jason: Dunno about the monster (I suppose you refer to the modified cutscene?) but Gamespy says the game benefits greatly from lacking FMVs, especially during combat. Also they're using the first one's combat system all the way through.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 07, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
Total DS hardware = 209,274
Total PSP hardware = 36,943
209,274/36,943= 5.7

Nintendo whooped Sony's ass by nearly a 6:1 ratio

Sadly if you compare the Gamecube weekly to PS2's, Sony whooped Nintendo's ass 22:1

Although 1492 (Gamecube sales) was the year Colombus "discovered" America...maybe America will discover the Gamcube this week. What the Hell am I talking about?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 07, 2006, 01:36:12 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
jason: Dunno about the monster (I suppose you refer to the modified cutscene?) but Gamespy says the game benefits greatly from lacking FMVs, especially during combat. Also they're using the first one's combat system all the way through.


I was referring to the monster at the end of the scene where the cyborgs or whatever they are (the big guy and the little girl that uses magic) escape from that base (it's been a LONG time since I played it). The last monster has a giant penis-shaped protrusion coming out of his groin that's almost the size of his entire upper body. It's not apparent from the view during the battle (from the angle you can't tell if it's a protrusion of just his torso), but when he dies he keels over and you get a really good view of it umm... flopping.

Seems like without the FMV the games would be much shorter, but I guess that's why they're giving you both games. I'm considerably less interested in the FMV for the sequels since they changed KOS-MOS's appearance so much from the original game.


Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: dsgirl on April 07, 2006, 07:58:55 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
Well, seeing this thread has been up for quite a while now, lets discuss DS sales over in Japan.

And lets hope it will finally catch up to PSP in sales... considering it's been outselling DS for over 2 months now.


..this is off topic but i'm some kinda curious about your avatar, may i know what is that?







ds.qj.net "my dsblog site"

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 07, 2006, 08:08:54 PM
I thought Noble-Feather was back... bastard.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 07, 2006, 08:51:35 PM
I'm considerably less interested in the FMV for the sequels since they changed KOS-MOS's appearance so much from the original game.

They've changed everyone's appearance. Shion looks like she just escaped from Final Fantasy.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 07, 2006, 09:51:14 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
Total DS hardware = 209,274
Total PSP hardware = 36,943
209,274/36,943= 5.7

Nintendo whooped Sony's ass by nearly a 6:1 ratio

Sadly if you compare the Gamecube weekly to PS2's, Sony whooped Nintendo's ass 22:1

Although 1492 (Gamecube sales) was the year Colombus "discovered" America...maybe America will discover the Gamcube this week. What the Hell am I talking about?

Japan seems to only go for one system as the market leader, with everything else significantly behind. DS has started to pull away now and is the clear handheld market leader. It's going to be interesting to see how PS3 and Revolution can co-exist.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 08, 2006, 03:20:15 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
I've never understood the popularity of games like that, completely stealth-based games. It's almost as if you bought a game to not play it. Metal Gear Solid = crap, which is why it did so poorly on the Gamecube, Gamecube owners like to be able to play their games, not sneaking around and avoiding all the action.


Sneaking? I ran around and made the biggest pile of dead guards possible.

You can play the game however you want, which includes coming up behind a guard and choking him to death, which is eerily satisfying in a way that it shouldn't be...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 08, 2006, 06:51:26 PM
That's true, and it's all I did when I played any of the MGS games, but it gets incredibly boring incredibly fast. Plus about 70% of the game is wasted on cutscenes where they use top secret military terms like "the X button" or "press select".
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 08, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
Yeah, TONS of cutscenes, but it could get pretty funny in some scenes.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 08, 2006, 08:46:53 PM
You can play the game however you want, which includes coming up behind a guard and choking him to death, which is eerily satisfying in a way that it shouldn't be...

Yes but that still requires sneaking until you are close to the target.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 08, 2006, 09:32:59 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Yes but that still requires sneaking until you are close to the target.


You can actually circle them until you're behind them, then choke them, or for a surefire method, punch them down, and stand behind them as they're getting up.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2006, 02:47:52 AM
Famitsu has announced fiscal year end sales March 28th 2005 - March 26th 2006:

Software
1. Animal Forest: Wild World (NDS, Nintendo): 2.34 million
2. Final Fantasy XII (PS2, Square Enix): 2.05 million
3. Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo): 1.85 million
4. Motto Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo): 1.70 million
5. Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo): 1.21 million

Hardware
1. Nintendo DS: 4.32 million
2. PSP: 2.07 million
3. PlayStation 2: 1.77 million
4. GBA SP: 600,000
5. GameBoy Micro: 460,000
6. NDS Lite: 380,000
7. Gamecube: 240,000
8. Xbox 360: 120,000

Previous fiscal year best sellers:
2004: Dragon Quest VIII (PS2, Square Enix): 3.48 million
2003: Pokemon Leaf Green & Fire Red (GBA, Nintendo): 1.8 million
2002: Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire (GBA, Nintendo): 4.24 million
2001: Final Fantasy X (PS2, Square Enix): 2.29 million
2000: Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshi-tachi (PS, Enix): 3.85 million
1999: Pokemon Gold & Silver (GBC, Nintendo): 5.43 million
1998: Final Fantasy VIII (PS, Square): 3.33 million
1997: Pokemon Red, Green & Blue (GB, Nintendo): 3.53 million


They've also announced total hardware sales in Japan up to March 26th 2006:

PlayStation 2: 19,197,777 units
GameBoy Advance: 8,978,795 units
Nintendo DS: 6,134,314 units
GameBoy Advance SP: 5,761,384 units
Gamecube: 3,965,737 units
PSP: 3,174,196 units
GameBoy Micro: 463,439 units
Nintendo DS Lite: 384,262 units
Xbox 360: 123,222 units

source: www.gamefront.de & www.the-magicbox.com  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 11, 2006, 07:19:27 AM
Nice, the DS will pass the GBA in a few months and the PS2 probably in a year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 11, 2006, 07:22:59 AM
Two of the top 5 games of this year are "non games". Two of the top 5 games are online, and both are made by Nintendo. Four of the top five are portable games. Four of the top five are Nintendo titles. 8 million portables were sold versus just over 2 million consoles.

And there are people who still insist the Japanese market isn't changing.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 11, 2006, 08:18:43 AM
But... but it's not the Japanese market that's important here. Well maybe it is, but what's actually important is the US market... I mean, the US console market. Yeah. That's what Nintendo needs in order to survive.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 11, 2006, 10:08:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
But... but it's not the Japanese market that's important here. Well maybe it is, but what's actually important is the US market... I mean, the US console market. Yeah. That's what Nintendo needs in order to survive.


The reason the japanese market is important is because unlike the US videogaming has been in decline for a while now. And Nintendo is primarily a Japan based company. I'm sure if they fail in Japan they could fail in the US and Europe.

And the other reason sales of the DS is important is because the DS symbolizes a major Nintendo strategy plan and that is that you get a bigger audience when you offer new and unique games that appeal to everybody. The DS is a phenomenon thanks to this and could do great wonders with the Revolution if done right.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 11, 2006, 10:25:46 AM
Plus most of Nintendo's key third party developers are Japanese as well, so they make the bulk of their games primarily for the Japanese market, and then import what they think will sell in the US after the fact.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 11, 2006, 11:45:14 AM
It's clear that they realize that, in the US, you can sell a console based on insecurity alone.

With no doubt many games which will turn the Rev into a gun/sword toting experience, the console has huge potential to become insanely popular with the older crowd in a hurry.

The controller doubles as the handle of a sword or gun. Doesn't get much more mature than that...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 11, 2006, 12:16:33 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
The controller doubles as the handle of a sword or gun. Doesn't get much more mature than that...
It's also shapred like a wang.  Doesn't get much more mature than that...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 11, 2006, 12:23:16 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu It's also shapred like a wang.  Doesn't get much more mature than that...


Good point.

Unsanctioned 3rd party games could become miiiighty interesting with the Revmote...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 12, 2006, 12:59:32 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
The controller doubles as the handle of a sword or gun. Doesn't get much more mature than that...
It's also shapred like a wang.  Doesn't get much more mature than that...


What about the cardboard tube?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 12, 2006, 09:30:17 AM
I don't recall being able to play Perfect Dark Zero with a cardboard tube.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 12, 2006, 04:04:20 PM
Quote



What about the cardboard tube?


isn't that from penny-arcade?

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 12, 2006, 04:47:10 PM
Media Create Sales: 3 - 9 Apr

1. (DS, Nintendo) Motto Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - 81,000 / 1,816,000
2. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Oideyo Doubutsu no Mori - 63,000 / 2,413,000
4. (DS, Nintendo) Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training - 56,000 / 1,878,000
5. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Eigo ga Nigate na Otona no DS Training: Eigo Zuke - 50,000 / 803,000
7. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
8. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
9. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
10. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000

Brain Training back on top. Remember, the first BT was released last May, and it's still number 4. Mario Kart pops back into the top 10, after a brief flop. People have stopped buying FFXII already, it's about to leave the chart, gimmick game.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 12, 2006, 05:09:04 PM
Another fantastic week for Nintendo. Can you imagine if they actually managed to succeed with the rev and instead of 4 PS2 and 6 DS we had 4 DS and 6 Rev?! An ALL NINTENDO top 10? OMG.

Mother 3 comes out on the 20th, I wonder how well it will sell? It's been on top of Famitsu's most anticipated list for three weeks in a row now. Hopefully its huge! GBA's last million seller?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on April 12, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
Highley unliklely, theres still lots of life left int GBa and I expect there will be plenty other owesome games for it in the next year until the next GB gets announced.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 12, 2006, 05:37:05 PM
Million seller? I highly doubt it. 100k if it's lucky, though I don't know much about the popularity of the Mother series there. (Famitsu most wanted charts are misleading)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 12, 2006, 10:46:52 PM
God, I can't begin to imagine the loads of money they've made on brain Training. I mean...the games took 10 people 4 months to make. And they's sold almost 5 million copies collectively. I mean...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on April 13, 2006, 07:06:09 AM


IT PRINTS MONEY!!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 13, 2006, 07:56:50 AM
wow, those number for the pokemon title are kind of low to be honest, is this "the" Diamond and Pearl games? or is some sort of spin off?

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 13, 2006, 08:11:35 AM
It's Pokemon Ranger.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 13, 2006, 08:14:30 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
wow, those number for the pokemon title are kind of low to be honest, is this "the" Diamond and Pearl games? or is some sort of spin off?


Apparently, it's not a TRUE Pokemon game.

It's kind of a spinoff/exploration of the touch screen.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 13, 2006, 10:05:39 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales: 3 - 9 Apr
8. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000

People have stopped buying FFXII already, it's about to leave the chart, gimmick game.


I love how you say a 2 million + seller is a sparkling innovation game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 13, 2006, 10:23:39 AM
I love how you haven't figured out that Mario's always sarcastic when he posts Media Crate Sales.  He was saying the DS was a flop when it was selling 300,000 units a week.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 13, 2006, 03:00:47 PM
Pokemon ranger I see, well I thought otherwise because the "diamond/pearl" in the title, I wonder how much the real pokemon game will sell...

 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on April 13, 2006, 03:32:39 PM
I'd consider getting back into Pokemon...  I quit after gold.  How different is it lately (i.e. are there 10 gadzillion pokemon?)?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 13, 2006, 04:05:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
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Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales: 3 - 9 Apr
8. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000

People have stopped buying FFXII already, it's about to leave the chart, gimmick game.


I love how you say a 2 million + seller is a sparkling innovation game.

Hey, people call the Brain Training games gimmick games without hesitation. As we can see from these charts Brain Training is not a one-time gimmick for three-time pick-up-and-don't-play gamers, unlike FFXII which was a one-month gimmick never to be heard from again from those non-lotsoftime-gamers. Everyone who was interested in it bought it straight away, it's a dying fad, and the mainstream gamers ignore it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 13, 2006, 04:48:01 PM
Mario isn't online right now for some reason even though the hardware sales are now out...So...*ahem*...

DSL 154,731
DS 49,825
PSP 30,565
PS2 28,896
GBASP 5,211
GBM 3,103
Xbox360 1,940
GC 1,224
GBA 110
Xbox 46

As one can plainly see, the DS is nothing more than a phenomenal flop...360 clearly has momentum as can be seen by it's steady lead over the GC...

...

I suck at this... ;_;
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on April 13, 2006, 05:29:24 PM
DS + DSL = 204,556
PSP = 30,565  

It's nice to see the pwnage continue
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on April 13, 2006, 05:43:27 PM
The sales were actually slightly lower this week.  Will be interesting to see where things level off now that supply is steady.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 13, 2006, 05:57:58 PM
Number of games in top 50:
DS - 24
PS2 - 13
PSP - 7
GBA - 5
X360 - 1
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 13, 2006, 07:01:13 PM
What's the Xbox 360 game?  DoA or RRXX?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 13, 2006, 07:46:44 PM
I'd assume it's Rumble Roses...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 14, 2006, 10:50:06 AM
Yuri wrestling, of course its going to be the most popular 360 game
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 14, 2006, 11:01:47 AM
I just now noticed Nintendo owns 6 of the 9 systems people are buying in Japan at the moment.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on April 14, 2006, 11:31:04 AM
just goes to show that people are wrong when they say Nintendo sucks and doesnt make any money.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 14, 2006, 11:50:57 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I just now noticed Nintendo owns 6 of the 9 systems people are buying in Japan at the moment.


If you count the three GBA systems as separate systems, then yes.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 14, 2006, 03:42:01 PM
The thing about FFX2 being a flop is there's probably 5 times as many PS2s in Japan as there are DS systems...for the next couple months at least.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 18, 2006, 05:05:50 AM
NPD March rankings (not sales figures)
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Kingdom Hearts II (PS2)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (Xbox3 60)
Black (PS2)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Xbox 360)
MLB '06: The Show (PS2)
Fight Night Round 3 (PS2)
Black (Xbox)
The Godfather (PS2)
Fight Night Round 3 (Xbox 360)
God of War (PS2)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Xbox 360)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (DS)
Sonic Riders (GC)
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2)
Super Princess Peach (DS)
The Godfather (Xbox)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence   (PS2)
Fight Night Round 3 (Xbox)
Gran Turismo 4 (PS2)
24: The Game (PS2)
I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that no PSP games made it into the top twenty or that the only GameCube game to make it is Sonic Riders.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 18, 2006, 05:17:57 AM
Im shocked that super princess peach sold more than the godfather or subsistence. they were all released the same month, right?

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 18, 2006, 06:06:54 AM
Hardware sales for March in the USA

PS2 - 273,000
GBA - 201,000
Xbox 360 - 192,000
PSP - 186,000
NDS - 184,000
Xbox - 83,000
GCN - 63,000

DS is struggling big time to even stay relevant, with big releases such as Tetris and Metroid Prime Hunters underperforming. PSP keeps destroying the DS without even any games, GBA continues to dominate the handheld market for f*ck knows why. GCN is being outsold by a dead system as PS2 cleans up and Xbox 360 builds on its solid next gen lead. The game market in general is looking very grim in the US at the moment. Perhaps they need a Revolution.

What's it gonna take for DS to be a success over there? Brain Age will be the big test.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on April 18, 2006, 06:34:48 AM
That really is grim. I don't know if I should hope those PS2 sales are for KHII or replacements. Poor little Cube.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 18, 2006, 06:56:10 AM
The only reason the GBA is not beating the PS2 is because of the DS.  Brain Age should start changing things and so should New SMB.  With the demise of the UMD movie, PSP should start to (extremely) slowly drop off in sales.  Unfortunately, PSP is selling on image alone since image is really what sells in the US.

Edit: No I'm wrong, the DS Lite will be the thing to change things.  It'll change the image of the DS and sales will boom.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 18, 2006, 06:56:39 AM
In other news, I have 186000 new fools to pity. HAHA!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 18, 2006, 08:02:18 AM
As long as Nintendo keeps pushing the GBA, the DS is going to suffer. America doesn't have room for more than one or two handhelds, let alone three.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2006, 08:05:24 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
NPD March rankings (not sales figures)
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Kingdom Hearts II (PS2)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (Xbox3 60)
Black (PS2)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Xbox 360)
MLB '06: The Show (PS2)
Fight Night Round 3 (PS2)
Black (Xbox)
The Godfather (PS2)
Fight Night Round 3 (Xbox 360)
God of War (PS2)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Xbox 360)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (DS)
Sonic Riders (GC)
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2)
Super Princess Peach (DS)
The Godfather (Xbox)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence   (PS2)
Fight Night Round 3 (Xbox)
Gran Turismo 4 (PS2)
24: The Game (PS2)
I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that no PSP games made it into the top twenty or that the only GameCube game to make it is Sonic Riders.
How about that Elderscolls IV: Oblivion made the list twice

edit: I hope that when DS Lite releases Nintendo advertises that DS can play all of your old GBA games too, that should help the DS replace the GBA in sales and cement it as THE handheld to own.
The GBA has had a good run, it time for it to slowly fade into non-importence over the next year or so.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on April 18, 2006, 08:19:05 AM
"As long as Nintendo keeps pushing the GBA, the DS is going to suffer. America doesn't have room for more than one or two handhelds, let alone three."

I agree completely.  This is the very reason why so many thought the "third pillar" concept was flawed.  One of Nintendo's handhelds was going to be overshadowed by the other.  Realistically that happened in Japan it's just that the "right" one sold.  What I find really odd is that not only is the PSP selling well despite a lack of games but the GBA doesn't have many new games either.  Nintendo is pushing the GBA with the Micro and the new screen for the SP but there's not like a whole whack of GBA games being released.  I thought the emphasis on the GBA would blow up in their face but I thought it would result in a lot of unsold GBAs.  This is much worse.

One major factor would be that the DS is incredibly successful in Japan because of the non-gamer strategy.  Brain Age is huge over there.  The plan is working.  It's not working in North America, or at least not yet.  We'll see how Brain Age sells here.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 18, 2006, 08:44:06 AM
But the GBA does have a very solid library. If you didn't already own one, the fact that few of the games have been released in the past year probably isn't a huge issue.

The people buying GBAs now are the same people buying PS2s now... they're the low end of the market looking for the most bang for the least buck. You can buy a GBA for $70 or whatever and find boxes and boxes of reduced to $10 or less GBA games at most stores.

If that's a market worth exploiting, I see no problem with Nintendo continuing to sell GBAs as long as people are buying them.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on April 18, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
The people buying GBAs now are the same people buying PS2s now... they're the low end of the market looking for the most bang for the least buck.


Well, you know, why not get a DS then? GBA library + DS library > GBA + GBC

Personally, I think Nintendo's problem at the moment is not making it clear to the casual consumers that the DS can also play GBA games as well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 18, 2006, 10:01:08 AM
The premiere problem Nintendo is having right now is in manufacturing DS Lites.

Another problem is that many games are going to the PSP that should be going to the DS: Katamari, Puzzle Fighter, etc.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 18, 2006, 10:27:53 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
How about that Elderscolls IV: Oblivion made the list twice

One's the Collector's Edition and one's the Regular Edition.  Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing which is which.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on April 18, 2006, 10:32:34 AM
Thinking more about this I'm wondering if part of the problem is that the American market just wasn't ready for a new Nintendo portable.  The GBA's life was kind of cut short.  Ignoring the PSP it was more than capable of lasting at least another year or so before getting replaced.  In Japan there was this whole "crisis" where people were getting bored of gaming and thus Nintendo felt the need to expand to that blue ocean strategy.  And it has worked.  But in America the "crisis" didn't really exist so there wasn't as much need for a new Nintendo portable.

It doesn't help that the DS kind of looks like a meager upgrade in comparison to the PSP.  Yes the DS has better hardware than the GBA but the jump is not nearly as high as the jump from GBA to PSP.  So there's this portable that is technically better but not as much as it could be that has a lot of extra doodads attached and is also not officially a "Gameboy".  I could see people interpretting such a system as a stop-gap between the GBA and the next "real Gameboy".  It doesn't help that Nintendo has spent so much effort trying to seperate the brands which I've always felt is counter-intuitive.  Even on boards like this, where the posters know their sh!t, talk about the next Gameboy comes up as if the DS doesn't really "count".

If Nintendo called it the Gameboy DS then there would be no doubt that it plays GBA games and that it was the real deal.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: TrueNerd on April 18, 2006, 11:55:54 AM
It shouldn't matter what the system's name is. The DS' library has gone from 'awful' to 'awesome' in the last year. The GBA hasn't had hardly anything substantial release for the system since, what, Wario Ware Twisted? You know, the GameCube hasn't had anything come out for it in the last 15 months and that system has sold accordingly. Yeah, the GBA had a better library established before its drought, but I cannot fathom a single reason why GBA is still selling as well as it is. Hopefully the Lite will change all of that.

And the PSP has yet to establish itself as anything more then a poor man's PS2... that is somehow more expensive then a PS2. But you know how it is in this stupid country, brand awareness and style sell better then what's good.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 18, 2006, 12:09:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
If Nintendo called it the Gameboy DS then there would be no doubt that it plays GBA games and that it was the real deal.


To this day I'll never understand why they didn't. I fully expected them to name it that right up until launch.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 18, 2006, 12:37:29 PM
It was for protection.  The game boy name was perfect, and if the DS failed ninty didn't want it to ruin the gameboy name.  They just weren't confident, I guess.  But whatever, the next GB is a while off, the DS really IS the next game boy...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 18, 2006, 01:54:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
The people buying GBAs now are the same people buying PS2s now... they're the low end of the market looking for the most bang for the least buck.


Well, you know, why not get a DS then? GBA library + DS library > GBA + GBC

Personally, I think Nintendo's problem at the moment is not making it clear to the casual consumers that the DS can also play GBA games as well.


Well, but for the same reason that people bought PSOnes instead of the PS2 when it was relatively new. The system price difference might seem trivial to us, but it's not to them. There's also the question of the lack of GBA multiplayer support.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2006, 03:23:45 PM
I've said it before, but seriously, I can't fathom it. It's just dumbfounding. Nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA to so many people in North America has been successfully translated to the DS, and in some cases with even better results. Castlevania. Advance Wars. Sonic. Kirby. Mario Kart (not a port). Mario & Luigi. Wario Ware. All of these have arguably better versions on the DS, and they were integral to the success of the GBA. Combine these with some awesome new IPs or new handheld iterations, and the DS's library is nothing if not healthy. The only two big franchises left are Pokemon and Metroid (both coming sooner or later). And please don't say anything about new "traditional" IPs - when Madden is annually on top of the North American charts, that clearly isn't the case.

So why on earth is the DS selling so badly over here? After the launch, I knew Kirby and Meteos wouldn't be enough to boost sales significantly. But I was confident that when autumn and Christmas came, the great new titles would push the DS on top once and for all in a big way. I mean, come on, that lineup from September to December was just brilliant. When this didn't happen, I was shocked, but I waited for Metroid Hunters; great graphics, online, FPS, handheld? Bingo! Or was it? We don't know the actual sales numbers, and NPD is inaccurate as usual, but all signs point to it horribly underperforming.

There are some bright spots though; namely the DS Lite, New Super Mario Bros, and to a lesser extent, Brain Training. If Peach sold so well (relatively), then NSMB should be a hit. But all bets are off now; from what we've seen, anything's possible. I will say, though, that I will give up on this market if Mario doesn't help the DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 18, 2006, 03:26:13 PM
When the DS came out, Nintendo should have put into gear a plan to discontinue the GBA within 6-8 months.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 18, 2006, 03:44:07 PM
If the DS is selling so badly, why is it that every time Overstock has a DS game as it's deal of the day its sold out by early afternoon?

Anyhow, the three things that I see driving DS sales in the US among traditional gamers are all yet to be released (but all forthcoming)

1. Zelda game
2. new Mario game that's an actual platformer
3. Pokemon game that's an actual RPG

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2006, 04:22:59 PM
OK, who was the one that said that the DS was selling badly?

Last I heard, the numbers were really good. The difference is that in the US it's another handheld, in Japan the DS is almost an iPod like phenomenon.

Even then, it's doing MUCH better than the PSP.

So why complain?

And I think 2006 will see the definite retirement of the GBA and Nintendo will focus on the DS greatly.

All the GBA announcements I've heard recently have been from third party companies, nothing from Nintendo.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2006, 04:39:02 PM
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Even then, it's doing MUCH better than the PSP.
Worldwide, yeah.. but we're talking about North America. The PSP outsold it for the first few months of its launch, and since then it's been even. The DS only has a slight lead overall, due to its earlier launch. And that is just ridiculous, especially with how many more quality games the DS has over the PSP..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SixthAngel on April 18, 2006, 05:13:38 PM
I was under the impression that the psp games were doing horrible despite keeping up and was becoming more of a media player for people.

Cancelling the GBA doesn't seem to be a problem so much as people in the US just don't seem to care about handheld gaming that much.  I have a DS and ended up picking up a bunch of games but the only reason I got it was because I was going to Hong Kong for a few months.  I considered gettting a GBA but decided the price difference wasn't great enough.  While some people will buy handhelds for the games it seems to me like in North America they are often bought only when needed and remain secondary to regular consoles.  Many people are simply not interested in a portable gaming device if they are not away from home to play it.  Since portables are considered so secondary to these people they don't care for the newest thing just something cheap to pick up and play.  Price point seems to be the primary reason for purchase and I think canceling the line would make a small move to a DS but more people would just not buy at all.

Because of that long argument I also think that big new games on a handheld won't cause big spikes in sales like consoles but instead an existing library is important to sway customers.  So I think backwards compatibility is very important to advertise, if it wasn't there I would have a GBA right now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: capamerica on April 18, 2006, 05:33:44 PM
Where are your hearing that the PSP is neck and neck with the DS?
That sounds like total Sony BS to me. Especially since Sony will Not release sale figures and only releases Shipped figures. While Nintendo releases actual Sale figures. Maybe the PSP and DS are neck and neck in the sense that Sony has shipped as many PSPs as Nintendo has sold DSes.

If the PSP was actually doing as well as the DS do you think we would be seeing all this support for the PSP being dropped? You have developers scaling back PSP support and Movie companies dropping UMD movie support. While in the DS's court we have developers jumping on left and right.

I think Sony is just pulling the wool over your eyes to make you think the PSP is doing better.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2006, 06:18:15 PM
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as people in the US just don't seem to care about handheld gaming that much.
Well, that's not true - the GBA/SP sold through the roof in North America, even when it was new and the price was quite high. Of course, it had Pokemon, which the DS doesn't have yet. Still, the DS has an amazing catalogue of games but for some odd reason it isn't selling as well. Just look at Nintendo's own offerings; for the GBA there was little competition so they didn't have many original games themselves. Contrast this to the DS, where they're putting in an incredible effort to put out quality titles.
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Where are your hearing that the PSP is neck and neck with the DS?
Oh, I have no doubt that internationally the DS is outselling the PSP by a wide margin. Hell, even France and Spain caught the Nintendogs bug. I am also aware that Sony gave a figure that showed how many PSPs they had shipped worldwide, which is bullshit of course. In comparison, the DS is absolutely handing it to the PSP.

However, as I said before (twice ), I'm talking about the North American market. If you look at the NPDs for the last year, what I said would become apparent. Of course, the NPD numbers are unreliable and inaccurate, as they exclude some stores and extrapolate and goodness knows what else. However, you can get the general feel of the market from them. And since the PSP launched over here, it outsold the DS at first, evening up with it later on. Since then the sales have been around the same for both handhelds, so the DS is in the lead due to its early launch. I thought that, with the rush of wonderful DS games in the last 6+ months, it would pull ahead easily. However, even with all those games, the sales show little improvement.

But I guess that in a world where Over the Hedge wins GameCube GOTY, this is not a surprise..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on April 18, 2006, 07:11:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
Well, you know, why not get a DS then? GBA library + DS library > GBA + GBC


*Bzzzt* Wrong!  As long as Link's Awaking remains limited to GBA/GB, then the GBA+DS library will never be better.

God, there needs to be a Link's Awakening re-release for the GBA... >:(

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 18, 2006, 07:16:26 PM
On the bright side, perhaps in 5 years time the DS will be doing what the GBA is now. (while the new Gameboy struggles to get a foot in)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 18 Days on April 18, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
Links Awakening isn't even that good.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 18, 2006, 07:33:24 PM
I've been called a Traitor because, as a Zelda fanboy and Miyamoto fanboy, I didn't like or finish Link's Awakening.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on April 19, 2006, 05:24:03 AM
Seriously folks, Link's Awakening is the best game ever created.  Period.  Ever.

I even remember reading at ome time that Miyamoto considers it his favorite game that he created.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 19, 2006, 05:35:43 AM
Kairon FAILS!

"Seriously folks, Link's Awakening is the best game ever created. Period. Ever."

Truth!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: capamerica on April 19, 2006, 05:35:57 AM
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Originally posted by: IceColdHowever, as I said before (twice ), I'm talking about the North American market. If you look at the NPDs for the last year, what I said would become apparent. Of course, the NPD numbers are unreliable and inaccurate, as they exclude some stores and extrapolate and goodness knows what else. However, you can get the general feel of the market from them. And since the PSP launched over here, it outsold the DS at first, evening up with it later on. Since then the sales have been around the same for both handhelds, so the DS is in the lead due to its early launch. I thought that, with the rush of wonderful DS games in the last 6+ months, it would pull ahead easily. However, even with all those games, the sales show little improvement.

But I guess that in a world where Over the Hedge wins GameCube GOTY, this is not a surprise..


I still think your being fooled, The only reason the PSP did as well as it did for the first couple weeks is because of all they hype Sony made for it. After that they system dropped down drastically, Its not holding its own as it did that first couple weeks. If the PSP was doing well in the US then why doesn't Sony release sale figures and promote the fact that the PSP is doing as well as the DS which is a run away success here in the US too. Why are movies studios dropping UMD support? Why are game developers not creating original content and are only releasing PS2 ports 80% of the time, And why are the game developers scaling back their PSP support? If the PSP was doing so well in the US why don't we have more American developers making games for it?

Nintendo DS sales for 2005:
Japan = 5 million
North America = 4 million
Europe = 3.5 million

Seems like Nintendo is doing pretty well in the US. While on the PSP front all we know is they have "Shipped" 15 million units world wide. Systems being shipped means jack, all we know 10 million units are sitting in warehouses in the middle of nowhere.

I know that where I live the PSP barely sold any. GameStop and EB sold 3 each to people who pre-ordered them. Best Buy sold 1 and Toys R Us and Circuit City didn't sell any for the first 2 weeks, after that I just stopped asking. And watched as Best Buy, Toys R US and Circuit City moved their PSP selection into the same area as all the other console accessories were, Which is away from the PSOne, PS2, Xbox, Xbox360, GameCube, DS and GBA sections. And this morning I saw at Wal-Mart that the PSP section has been moved to a little rack at the end which holds about 4 games on each row. This is a huge down grade from where it was last time I was there where the PSP had a section bigger then the GameCube and DS sections combined.

Maybe the PSP is doing better in your area then the rest of the US? But from what I've seen and heard the PSP is a disaster and isn't any where near selling as well as the DS which is selling very well, infact the DS even sold out here around the time Mario Kart came out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 19, 2006, 06:00:39 AM
Without proper figures we'll neer know how PSP is doing vs. DS in North America.  Just as Sony isn't bragging about selling as well as/better than the DS in North America, Nintendo isn't bragging about outselling Sony in North America...and sales in your local region don't tell you the story either.  I know more PSP owners than DS owners (3 PSP owners vs...me), and I see PSP way more often on the bus, but we can't conclude anything from that.

Until I hear something authoritative about DS vs. PSP sales, I'll assume they're about even in North America.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 19, 2006, 08:19:11 AM
Don't NDP sales not include WalMart or something?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 08:42:52 AM
Wal Mart is dropping UMD sales also i heard. at my Wal mart they already took them down and put them int the bargian bin, 5.00 to 15 a pop. that means they are finished here.

Also it should suyrprise anyone psp is selling close to DS in NA, PSP is selling as a multi purpose electronic dvice that plays movies, mp3s, stores digital photos and has web browsing capabilities, in the US its a mini PC and thats how it is being sold, screw the games peopel buy it because it has other features, and without all the other jazz DS is still neck in neck, so of cxourse once the good games start rolling in and PSP support starts dropping off people will see it as a fad and start to shift.



fully expect that once psp owners realisize that some stores are dropping umd support and that major releases have slowed down theyw ill start to feel cheated and figure that it is dieng. Once potential new customers see that support is widning down they will hodl of purchase out of fear of gettig burned. PSP is and will continue to be a failure, Sony is shifting its focus to wards promoting the multi media aspects and is trying to salage ymd sales above all else because PSP is the Ipod killer to them and they know that DS cant be touched and therefore are shifting focus. Wait till E3 I bet that sony will talk a lot about how PSP is doing better than people think and will continue to brag about SHIPPEd numbers whiel Nintendo will once again hodl up thier pie chart showing how pathetic everybody else is compared to them.  


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 19, 2006, 08:46:43 AM
Donkey Kong is superior to Link's Awakening.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 19, 2006, 01:37:32 PM
Quote

I still think your being fooled, The only reason the PSP did as well as it did for the first couple weeks is because of all they hype Sony made for it. After that they system dropped down drastically, Its not holding its own as it did that first couple weeks. If the PSP was doing well in the US then why doesn't Sony release sale figures and promote the fact that the PSP is doing as well as the DS which is a run away success here in the US too. Why are movies studios dropping UMD support? Why are game developers not creating original content and are only releasing PS2 ports 80% of the time, And why are the game developers scaling back their PSP support? If the PSP was doing so well in the US why don't we have more American developers making games for it?
Nope.. you can look through this thread if you want. Look at all the NPD releases for the last year or so. The PSP was released in March IIRC, and after outselling the DS for a couple of months the sales evened out here. Even through the holiday season, the DS at best had a slight lead. There was one month where Sony decided to withhold their numbers, but that was only one month (September I believe). Again, NPDs are not 100% indicative of the actual figures, but they're not way off either. Enough so that we can actually use them and get a feel for the sales. So, even though the DS library is in every way superior to the PSP one, it is still not a runaway succcess here, which it should be.

To answer nearly all your other questions: software tie-in ratio. How many games people buy with the system. And to say that the PSP's tie-in ratio is horrendous  is an understatement. It all stems from the fact that the PSP takes the focus off gaming. It's also a multimedia player, and games just aren't as important. With all the functions it has, the software sales are bound to be much, much lower. The DS, on the other hand, focuses almost purely on games. It's what Nintendo has always done; make a system for games and nothing else. This has many advantages, not the least of which protecting the tie-in ratio. That's one thing the DS has going for it over the PSP; its software sales are significantly higher than those of the PSP.

So why does this matter? Well, when developers decide to develop for a system, the tie-in ratio is just as important as the userbase. The PSP itself can sell as much as it wants, but if no one buys games for it, then there obviously won't be any support. That's why it has such a weak lineup of games, including ports. Same with UMD sales.. The multimedia people dismiss it because it plays games, and the people involved with games dismiss it because it's multimedia-focused. Quite a situation.

And that's why I'm scared for the next generation of consoles. Microsoft and Sony are just taking too much of their focus away from games. Nintendo is the only one who is focused solely on delivering games to us. But that's a different discussion for a different thread..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 19, 2006, 02:13:15 PM
"Seriously folks, Link's Awakening is the best game ever created. Period. Ever."

Absolutely, and I give an angry glare at all naysayers.
It redefined the Zelda series, too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 19, 2006, 05:08:05 PM
In with the sales before Mario again...

1 NDS Brain Training 2 - 71,000 (1,877,000)
2 NDS Brain Training - 52,000 (1,930,000)
3 NDS Animal Crossing - 49,000 (2,462,000)
4 NDS Densetsu no Stafi 4 - 48,000 (48,000)
5 PS2 Guilty Gear XX Slash - 44,000 (44,000)
6 NDS English Trainig - 43,000 (847,000)
7 NDS Pokemon Ranger - 38,000 (359,000)
8 PS2 Final Fantasy XII - 25,000 (2,151,000)
9 PS2 Pro Yakyuu Netsu Star 2006 21,000 (73,000)
10 PS2 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 3 21,000 (89,000)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on April 19, 2006, 06:16:10 PM
Wow, are the brain training games going to sell more in the games' lifetimes than FFXII?  That's pretty intense.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 19, 2006, 06:22:39 PM
The astonishing thing will be that it probably cost SquareEnix 250 times as much to make FFXII compared to the entire Brain Age series.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 19, 2006, 07:11:41 PM
Wait, why is Animal Crossing doing so well? As in, better total than FFXII and still selling better?

Is there just an FFXII shortage or something?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 19, 2006, 07:16:50 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
FFXII was a one-month gimmick never to be heard from again from those non-lotsoftime-gamers. Everyone who was interested in it bought it straight away, it's a dying fad, and the mainstream gamers ignore it.


Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 19, 2006, 07:22:50 PM
And the DS is only a year and half into its life cycle, and has a significantly lower userbase than the PS2..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 09:28:51 PM
but ps2 is the SH#* man and Ds is the tiku tiku tiku!  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 20, 2006, 06:20:10 AM
Just remember though, FFXII will most likely sell more than either AC or BT worldwide, despite the amazing Japanese sales.  It'll be up with FFX without around 5-6 million worldwide.  

Though I'd be pleasantly suprised if I'm wrong.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 20, 2006, 07:11:36 AM
The hardware numbers are here, DS keeps chugging along, though the numbers are slightly down from last week. Software numbers in general are down too, but it's great to see a Brain Training 1-2.

DS Lite: 140,969
DS: 37,204
PS2: 27,549
PSP: 26,340
GBASP: 6,372
GBM: 3,676
Xbox 360: 1,926
GC: 1,080
GBA: 46
Xbox: 30

Not much else happening except PS2 trades places with PSP, sales for every system are down slightly. I'm glad they are continuing to track the Xbox sales! I could have bought 31 pies last week and it would have outsold Xbox.

EDIT: Actually, GBA sales have gone up a little bit, they should go up more next week with the release of Mother 3. Mother 3 came out yesterday and apparently has sold out of it's 300,000 shipment already.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 20, 2006, 07:26:20 AM
Great. Another Starfi game and we didn't even see ONE of them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 20, 2006, 10:42:19 AM
DS is on the way out, it didn't sell 200,000 systems this week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: thepoga on April 20, 2006, 02:42:37 PM
are there still hardware shortages in Japan?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 20, 2006, 03:44:33 PM
If there's anything to run out of, it's customers.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 20, 2006, 03:49:15 PM
Heh, Nintendo must be sponsoring that Japanese government cash-for-babies incentive programme..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 20, 2006, 07:08:04 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: thepoga
are there still hardware shortages in Japan?

Most likely. I think they're going to continue for a while because Nintendo has to start producing DS Lite systems for other parts of the world soon. If DS sells an average of 200,000 per week, it will take 65 weeks for it to outsell PS2, assuming PS2 doesn't sell any units from now on. Nintendo need to step up their game if they want to achieve such a feat, because right now it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 20, 2006, 08:38:48 PM
Outselling the PS2 is probably a foregone conclusion. My concern is that unless they can ramp up past producing 200K per week in Japan there are people who might have to wait a solid decade before they can get one.

Maybe the stores should do some rationing... put every newborn on a wait list so that when they turn 10 they've got a pre-order. Make every elderly owner specify in his/her will who gets his when he/she dies... give priority to the people who haven't got a DS willed to them by someone likely to die in the next decade. This is a shortage people, we need to keep our wits about us!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Guitar Smasher on April 20, 2006, 09:53:11 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Quote

Originally posted by: thepoga
are there still hardware shortages in Japan?

Most likely. I think they're going to continue for a while because Nintendo has to start producing DS Lite systems for other parts of the world soon. If DS sells an average of 200,000 per week, it will take 65 weeks for it to outsell PS2, assuming PS2 doesn't sell any units from now on. Nintendo need to step up their game if they want to achieve such a feat, because right now it doesn't look like it's going to happen.


They could always turn a blind eye to product quality, and have half their customers rebuy their system.  That's called learning from the market leader.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 21, 2006, 06:27:38 AM
I'm pretty sure the shortages are over...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 26, 2006, 07:50:12 AM
For a nice change in pace here's the recent French gaming chart

1. Animal Crossing : Wild World (Nintendo, NDS)
2. Dragon Quest : L'odyssée du Roi Maudit (Square Enix, PS2)
3. Tomb Raider : Legend (Eidos, PS2)
4. FIFA Street 2 (EA, PS2)
5. Nintendogs : Labrador (Nintendo, NDS)
6. Tomb Raider : Legend (Eidos, Xbox 360)
7. Nintendogs : Teckel (Nintendo, NDS)
8. L'Age de Glace 2 : The Meltdown (Vivendi, NDS)
9. Tomb Raider : Legend (Eidos, Xbox)
10. Mario Kart DS (Nintendo, NDS)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on April 26, 2006, 08:22:39 AM
So, um... anyone know what the worldwide sales for Animal Crossing: Wild World is?  Seems like it should be pretty high...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 26, 2006, 09:12:13 AM
What the heck is 8. L'Age de Glace 2 : The Meltdown (Vivendi, NDS)?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on April 26, 2006, 09:25:08 AM
literally it would be the age of ice 2: the meltdown
we know it as, ice age 2 (i think the subtitle was removed for the american version)
although i didn't know there was a ds game for it, but they usually hit up all systems with movie related games so it's not too surprising
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 26, 2006, 09:47:22 AM
What the Hell is wrong with the French?

FIFA Street 2?  Three versions of Tomb Raider?  And Ice Age?  Jeez.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on April 26, 2006, 11:53:04 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
What the Hell is wrong with the French?


Err... They're French?

I kid, I kid...

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JGarcia050 on April 26, 2006, 03:47:25 PM
can someone tell me whose leading in world wide sales DS or Japan

and also whose leading in sales in the U.S. DS or PSP


thanks
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toad0787 on April 26, 2006, 03:50:54 PM
Huh?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: JGarcia050 on April 26, 2006, 03:58:33 PM
sry i meant to say

whose leading in hardware sales in Japan....DS or PSP?

and whose leading in hardware sales in the U.S.....DS or PSP?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 26, 2006, 04:52:14 PM
In Japan the DS is the runaway leader.. it's a phenomenon there.

In North America, however, it's much closer. Although the DS should be ahead by a mile, it only has a slim lead. And much of that can be attributed to the fact that it launched quite a bit earlier than the PSP.

Worldwide the DS is doing much better than the PSP..  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 26, 2006, 05:31:03 PM
1. GBA Mother 3 205,914
2. PS2 DQ Yangus 127,502
3. PS2 FFXI Aht Urhgan expansion 75,983
4. DS More Brain Training 70,831 (1,957,633)
5. PSP Dragonball Z 70,559
6. PS2 Okami 60,161
7. DS Brain Training 48,493 (1,977,999)
8. DS Animal Crossing 42,994 (2,505,056)
9. DS Eigo zuke 39,757 (886,471)
10. DS Pokemon Ranger 31,640 (390,641)


Mother 3 out on top!  And Okami is a massive flop...That's what Capcom gets for being retarded about not giving GC owners a chance to play...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 26, 2006, 05:52:35 PM
Yay! 6/10 again! Including Mother. I knew Mother would do well! Bravo. Hopefully that'll secure it's NA release. I want me some Mother 3!

And BT 2 will pass the 2 million mark next week...As will the original. Can you say wow? Not to mention AC passed 2.5. Yowza yowza. Continued great numbers for Eigo Zuke (?) and PKMN Ranger.

Lovely lovely!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on April 26, 2006, 06:33:36 PM
What is the highest selling (in units sold) PSP game, so far? Out of sheer curiosity... Anyone know?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 26, 2006, 06:42:58 PM
Monster Hunter Portable, at around 610,000. There's a few other PSP games at around 400,000 (Everybodys Golf, Ridge Racer, Sega Brain Training) and the rest are flops.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 26, 2006, 06:53:41 PM
In North America GTALCS did pretty well; not a blockbuster but better than most PSP games.

And SEGA's Brain Training actually did that well? Wow..  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 26, 2006, 07:56:22 PM
Those are Japanese numbers? Where's FFXII?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 26, 2006, 08:23:51 PM
Off the list? People bought FF12 in the first week and after that immediately stopped buying.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 26, 2006, 08:55:15 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Monster Hunter Portable, at around 610,000. There's a few other PSP games at around 400,000 (Everybodys Golf, Ridge Racer, Sega Brain Training) and the rest are flops.


Those are JPN only numbers, right? Last I saw, both Lumines and GTA: LCS were in a million-range.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 26, 2006, 09:09:11 PM
I was hoping DQ Yangus would garner a little more interest. I guess there was almost a 0% chance of US localization in the first place, but if it can't sell any better than that in Japan, it's probably going to die a quiet death.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 26, 2006, 09:12:21 PM
I still don't understand what happened to FFXII. I'm sure there's a logical explanation, maybe a shortage or industrial sabotage or another Godzilla attack or something.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 26, 2006, 10:19:33 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Monster Hunter Portable, at around 610,000. There's a few other PSP games at around 400,000 (Everybodys Golf, Ridge Racer, Sega Brain Training) and the rest are flops.


Those are JPN only numbers, right? Last I saw, both Lumines and GTA: LCS were in a million-range.

Japan numbers... and Lumines is nowhere near a million. About 200k in Japan, don't know about the US, a bit higher I think. GTA is over a million worldwide.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 27, 2006, 03:52:35 AM
Paladin: Maybe they just delivered enough to satisfy all the fanboys on day one and the rest stopped caring somewhere around 8 or 9?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 27, 2006, 06:08:52 AM
Lumines is 700,000 worldwide based on the Disney and Q partnership press release.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 07:06:35 AM
With Mother 3 on top, Nintendo is clearly betting on the wrong horse.  DS should be tossed in the garbage and Nintendo should release a new version of the GBA, pronto.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Toad0787 on April 27, 2006, 12:20:57 PM
Good thing Ds people can play GBA games isnt it?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 27, 2006, 07:29:46 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
1. GBA Mother 3 205,914
2. PS2 DQ Yangus 127,502
3. PS2 FFXI Aht Urhgan expansion 75,983
4. DS More Brain Training 70,831 (1,957,633)
5. PSP Dragonball Z 70,559
6. PS2 Okami 60,161
7. DS Brain Training 48,493 (1,977,999)
8. DS Animal Crossing 42,994 (2,505,056)
9. DS Eigo zuke 39,757 (886,471)
10. DS Pokemon Ranger 31,640 (390,641)
DSL 168,809
PSP 32,323
PS2 25,763
GBM 18,390
GBASP 11,044
DS 8,051
Xbox360 3,990
GC 1,106
GBA 58
Xbox 16

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on April 27, 2006, 10:16:32 PM
wow... xbox is headed for single digit sales... Will we see it hit 0 maybe?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on April 28, 2006, 12:46:31 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

DS 8,051


Wow.... regular DS sales fell waaaay down
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 03:19:24 AM
That DS number makes no sense. But apparantly it's right!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 28, 2006, 04:02:48 AM
maybe its just that the consumers have decided they like the lite better, and its in greater supply.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 28, 2006, 06:56:53 AM
Seriously, why would anyone buy a regular DS now?  I guess it may be a little cheaper, but the Lite seems to be superior in almost every way.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 28, 2006, 07:10:17 AM
still, it's a pretty big drop considering previous sales were around 40k....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on April 28, 2006, 08:01:05 AM
It's possible some smaller places have stopped carrying original DS altogether in favor of the Lite. Like how after the SP came out it wasn't too long before a lot of places stopped having original model GBAs.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 28, 2006, 08:14:29 AM
Or the Lite is now in greater supply that they don't need to substitute the original DS when out buying.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on April 28, 2006, 08:14:59 AM
Also GBA SP and GBM sales went up almost as much as DS went down, thanks to Mother 3.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 08:26:02 AM
wasnt Nintendo's plan to make the DS discontinued eventually and make the Lite  the official version?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on April 28, 2006, 01:59:44 PM
I thought they were going to keep both versions alive... Maybe they are putting their focus on manufacturing DS Lites and are just trying to meet demand... Once the sales start to slow down (if ever) they will have more DS'.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on April 28, 2006, 10:50:45 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
wasnt Nintendo's plan to make the DS discontinued eventually and make the Lite  the official version?


I doubt it, considering we are still seeing GBAs sell at this stage in the game after the GBA SP being on the market for such a long time.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on April 28, 2006, 11:30:22 PM
I think they've said the DS Phat will be gone by next year, though I could be mistaken.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 29, 2006, 04:00:03 PM
GBA should have been done away with a year ago.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 29, 2006, 07:12:20 PM
There's no point to keep making both the DS and the DS Lite. My guess is as soon as the US version launches (or Euro), then production of the standard DS will completely end.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on April 30, 2006, 05:16:55 AM
Quote

GBA should have been done away with a year ago.

Seeing as how they're the only way you can play GB and Color games, and the GBASP is still the all-around best portable ever, I'll have to disagree.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 30, 2006, 07:00:48 AM
If Nintendo made the DS right, you would be able to play all GameBoy games on it, and not just GBA games.  

lol

The GBA may be the best current way to play old GB & GBC games, the GBA in the US is competing with the DS, not complimenting it.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on April 30, 2006, 07:05:27 AM
Err... if the DS didn't play GBA games, then wouldn't it be directly competing with the GBA/SP?  The fact that they both play GBA games makes the GBA/SP the basic model and the DS the delxue model...  Some people will look for a GBA, find the DS and get it because it plays GBA games.  Others will get the GBA, then decide later to get a DS because they already have a collection of games that'll play on it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UniversalJuan on April 30, 2006, 07:45:47 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: wandering Seeing as how they're the only way you can play GB and Color games,


Game Boy Player says wasabi.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 01, 2006, 10:38:06 PM
In other news, New Super Mario Bros has 1.3 million pre-orders in Japan.

Yet Nintendo are only shipping 800,000 on launch day...  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on May 01, 2006, 11:03:33 PM
Incredible.. but all I want to see now is what impact Mario and the DS Lite have in North America. I the DS doesn't sell through the roof I will be very disappointed.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2006, 11:38:06 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
In other news, New Super Mario Bros has 1.3 million pre-orders in Japan.

Yet Nintendo are only shipping 800,000 on launch day...
Is that the highest pre-order count for a handheld? If not, then what is and for what game on what system?

And while you're at it, how does that compare to the highest pre-orderd game on a console? and what game was that and for which console?

Thanx in advance
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 05:22:48 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
In other news, New Super Mario Bros has 1.3 million pre-orders in Japan.
And there are people that try to argue that noone cares about Mario anymore. That spinoff's are killing Mario's mass appeal to everyone... <looks at Ian primarily>

I'm not denying that to you, personally, Mario may be tired and boring, etc, etc, etc... But trying to impose your own feelings as the feelings of everyone just doesn't work in reality.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 05:53:46 AM
1.3 million!? Yikes! Didn't AC:WW have like 1.2 or something? It was around a million anyway. That 1.3 will go up too, it doesn't even have a set release date there, just this month!

DSL sales that week are going to be ginormous...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 02, 2006, 07:57:40 AM
ACWW had about 500,000 :P but I can't remember the exact number.
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
In other news, New Super Mario Bros has 1.3 million pre-orders in Japan.

Yet Nintendo are only shipping 800,000 on launch day...
Is that the highest pre-order count for a handheld? If not, then what is and for what game on what system?

And while you're at it, how does that compare to the highest pre-orderd game on a console? and what game was that and for which console?

Thanx in advance

I think it is the highest for a handheld game, possibly Pokemon could be higher. Wind Waker previously held the record for most pre-orders on a console at 550,000, but then Halo 2 broke that supposedly, but MS didn't release the numbers, i'll assume they were less than 1.3 million. Pokemon DS will probably break it again.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on May 02, 2006, 08:27:30 AM
From the horrible translation I got of the article linked, it would appear that the 1.3 million pre-orders is just basically what retailers have ordered of the game, n'est-ce pas?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on May 02, 2006, 09:13:57 AM
I think San Andreas had more preorders than Halo 2.  I could be mistaken.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 02, 2006, 06:22:08 PM
It appears it could mean copies ordered from stores, regardless, it's going to be big, stores don't order that many if the demand isn't that high. It should outsell Super Mario 64 DS easily, which will make me happy enough.

New SMB is already #1 at amazon.co.jp (above both Brain Trainings and Mother 3), and it isn't out for another 3 weeks!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 03, 2006, 05:26:32 AM
Three weeks too long.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on May 05, 2006, 06:31:52 AM
For some anecdotal data: Today I overheard a conversation in a store where parents tried to buy a DS but the clerk told them they're all out. Also I heard a boy who wanted to get a PSP but his mother wouldn't let him because he'd have to buy new games for that. HAHA!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 05, 2006, 08:19:13 AM
Media Works Charts - Dengeki - Apr. 24th - 30th

1. (PS2) Winning Eleven 10
2. (DS) Tetris DS
3. (DS) More Adult Brain Training - 2,112,000
4. (PS2) Dragon Quest Yangus
5. (DS) Adult Brain Training - 2,006,000
6. (DS) Animal Crossing Wild World
7. (GBA) Mother 3
8. (DS) Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 4
9. (DS) English Training
10. (DS) Pokemon Ranger
~~
11. (PS2) King of Fighters: Maxium Impact 2
12. (PSP) kazuo
13. (PSP) Neon Genesis Evangelion 2: Tsukurareshi Sekai -Another Cases-
14. (DS) Mario Kart
15. (PS2) Okami
16. (PSP) Dragon Ball Z
17. (DS) Tabi no Yubisashi Kaiwachou DS: DS Series 4 America
18. (DS) Densetsu no Starfi 4
19. (PS2) Final Fantasy XII
20. (PS2) Rozen Maiden duellwaizer
21. (DS) Kanji Sonomama DS Rakubiki Jiten
22. (DS) Yawaraka atama juku
23. (PSP) Innocent Life
24. (PSP) Proyakyu Spirits 3
25. (DS) Ochaken no Heya DS
26. (PS2) Proyakyu netsusuta 2006
27. (DS) Puzzle Series Vol. 3: Sudoku
28. (PSP) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable
29. (DS) Tabi no Yubisashi Kaiwachou DS: DS Series 3 Korean
30. (PSP) Monster Hunter Portable

Nintendo and the DS completely owning the Top 10 = Boriing........

But Sony Completely overshadowing Nintendo in the 11-20 or even the 11-30 now that is what we should all be excited over!!

MS rulz Japan!!!!  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 05, 2006, 01:39:56 PM
Oh, so that is where all the PSP sales are.  I knew they had to sell more than just systems.  The games just don't sell lots of copies.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 05, 2006, 02:59:31 PM
I just decided to reminisce through the many pages here and it's funny, looking back now, at people all concerned over the PSP outselling the DS in early 05 in Japan for 10 straight weeks.  People were worried about things that I can't even remember now.  The DS is a phenomenom that erased my memory!!!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on May 05, 2006, 08:59:40 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Media Works Charts - Dengeki - Apr. 24th - 30th

Nintendo and the DS completely owning the Top 10 = Boriing........

But Sony Completely overshadowing Nintendo in the 11-20 or even the 11-30 now that is what we should all be excited over!!

MS rulz Japan!!!!


You dont do that as good as Mario

Actual sales numbers are apparently delayed due to "goldenweek" or some such crap in Japan,

DS > 200,000 + sales shortages AGAIN
TETRIS DS > 200,000
Source

Only 25 days till I get my DS-Lite in Australia
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on May 05, 2006, 10:01:46 PM
Quote

The DS is a phenomenom that erased my memory!!!

Hmm...you'll have to trace your memory to remember what happened back then.

....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 06, 2006, 12:09:35 AM
Sales shortages STILL? Gee whiz, it's like Nintendo is practically giving up on the handheld market, it's quite obvious where their focus is NOT, and that's handheld production. After two months, they should have it sorted, it's just pure laziness and as a consumer, I don't have to put up with that, and I wont.

They obviously aren't too concerned about getting DS's to consumers, this mindset will hurt them in the long run because it will affect their bottom line and the developers will have no reason to not think Nintendo are about to do the same thing with thier home consoles, and I could understand if every developer dropped Nintendo right now. It's only the logical thing to do in situations like these where a company just doesn't meet your needs and offer the right type of platform.

In short, Nintendo might as well cancel Wii because it's not going to sell one system, so shipping 0 they can still say "demand can not be met" and pretend things are rosy while Sony continues raking in the real cash with the PSP and PS3. As a longtime Nintendo fan, I just can't support them anymore after this new direction of their systems selling out, and my anticipation for E3 has been put out like a fire brigade attacking a flaming toaster.

BTW the only reason there's more than 1 PSP game in the top 30 there is some weird new bundle or price drop or colour of PSP that was released there last week, I can't remember specifics because the PSP isn't really relevant anymore
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on May 06, 2006, 12:24:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Sales shortages STILL? Gee whiz, it's like Nintendo is practically giving up on the handheld market, it's quite obvious where their focus is NOT, and that's handheld production. After two months, they should have it sorted, it's just pure laziness and as a consumer, I don't have to put up with that, and I wont.


Well I suppose theres a limitation on how many DS-Lites they can produce, seeing the still have to stockpile them for there most important market, Australia, and put some aside for the USA as well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SgtShiversBen on May 06, 2006, 05:15:04 AM
i find it weird that so many quirky games are still being made for the PSP especially considering what's the real seller in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 07, 2006, 04:35:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Sales shortages STILL? Gee whiz, it's like Nintendo is practically giving up on the handheld market, it's quite obvious where their focus is NOT, and that's handheld production. After two months, they should have it sorted, it's just pure laziness and as a consumer, I don't have to put up with that, and I wont.

They obviously aren't too concerned about getting DS's to consumers, this mindset will hurt them in the long run because it will affect their bottom line and the developers will have no reason to not think Nintendo are about to do the same thing with thier home consoles, and I could understand if every developer dropped Nintendo right now. It's only the logical thing to do in situations like these where a company just doesn't meet your needs and offer the right type of platform.

In short, Nintendo might as well cancel Wii because it's not going to sell one system, so shipping 0 they can still say "demand can not be met" and pretend things are rosy while Sony continues raking in the real cash with the PSP and PS3. As a longtime Nintendo fan, I just can't support them anymore after this new direction of their systems selling out, and my anticipation for E3 has been put out like a fire brigade attacking a flaming toaster.



The sarcasm has returned *sighs*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 09, 2006, 12:05:21 AM
Media Create April 24-30

1 PS2 Winning Eleven 10 - 460,549
2 NDS Tetris DS - 218,099
3 NDS Brain training 2 - 94,231 (2,051,864)
4 NDS Brain training - 74,783 (2,052,782)
5 NDS Animal Crossing - 56,860 (2,561,916)
6 PS2 Dragon Quest Shonen Yangus - 54,456 (181,958)
7 NDS English training - 52,258 (938,729)
8 GBA Mother 3 - 50,923 (256,837)
9 NDS Naruto 4 - 38,236
10 NDS Pokemon Ranger 36,777 (427,418)

DSL 225,835
DS 42,695
PSP 40,884
PS2 29,837
GBASP 8,225
GBM 5,034
Xbox360 2,845
GC 1,126
GBA 69
Xbox 29
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on May 09, 2006, 12:12:26 AM
Quote

The sarcasm has returned hooray

fixed.

Anyway. Nice to see the DS's continued domination. But 8th place for Mother 3?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 09, 2006, 05:50:16 AM
Man, the DS continues to own all.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 09, 2006, 06:32:49 AM
Man, in the next couple of weeks, English Training is going to break a million copies!!  That is just crazy.  And Brain Training 2 is going to pass up Brain Training 1 by next week.  I'm also guessing that by the end of the year, Animal Crossing will pass 3 million copies sold.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clintonmanual on May 09, 2006, 01:07:58 PM
hey they said that the ds has sold 18 million worldwide.. and that is millions more then the psp... i read that today.. they didn't say by how many millions BUT hey.. its a start ^_^
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2006, 06:57:16 PM
PSP "SHIPPED" 15 million

key work being quotationed
how many have they sold? I'm not sure but I can guarantee that it aint 15 million.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 10, 2006, 05:01:52 PM
Actually, Sony announced at their press conference that they had "SHIPPED" 17 million.  Still doesn't say how many they actually sold though.  I know I always see a bunch of PSPs on store shelves.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 10, 2006, 05:52:49 PM
Media Create May 1 - May 7

01 NDS TETRIS DS - 160,148 [378,247]
02 NDS Brain Age 2 - 112,392 [2,164,256]
03 PS2 Winning Eleven 10 - 100,860 [561,409]
04 NDS Brain Age - 84,075 [2,136,857]
05 NDS Animal Crossing - 83,564 [2,645,481]
06 NDS Pokemon Ranger - 69,415 [496,834]
07 NDS English Training - 59,614 [998,343]
08 NDS Mario Kart DS - 37,037 [1,353,596]
09 GBA MOTHER 3 - 34,591 [291,428]
10 PS2 Dragon Quest Youth Yangus & Fushi no Dungeon - 33,279 [215,237]  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on May 10, 2006, 06:16:34 PM
Wow... 7 of the top 8.

Yangus seems to be holding its own for awhile though at least. I still don't see a US release being too likely, but since we're getting Slime Mori Mori for the DS, anything's possible.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 10, 2006, 09:21:25 PM
Number of games in Top 50:

NDS - 28
PS2 - 11
PSP - 7
GBA - 4

Amazing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on May 10, 2006, 11:04:06 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Number of games in Top 50:

NDS - 28
PS2 - 11
PSP - 7
GBA - 4

Amazing.


I know. Look at that GBA number. Pitiful, absolutely pitiful. At this rate GBA games will be selling like XBox 360 games in a couple of weeks.

Listen Nintendo, you're a tripod, you're a frickin' tripod. You knock out one pillar and you fall down, all of you.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on May 11, 2006, 04:33:29 AM
What the hell are you talking about?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 11, 2006, 06:21:45 AM
Nintendo's 3 pillar theory!  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 11, 2006, 10:53:48 AM
Why such a big spike in sales?  Is it because of Golden Week?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on May 11, 2006, 03:02:01 PM
Well Nintendo has officially lost a leg (no more GB's). So.....yeah....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on May 11, 2006, 03:53:44 PM
Gamecube is the new 3rd pillar!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 11, 2006, 11:28:23 PM
French chart May 2 - 8

1 Animal Crossing : Wild World NDS
2 Pro Evolution Soccer 5 - Platinum PS2
3 Metroid Prime Hunters NDS
4 Gran Turismo 4 PS2
5 Eye toy play 3 + camera PS2
6 Splinter Cell : Chaos theory PS2
7 Dragon Quest : L'Odyssée du roi maudit PS2
8 God of War - Platinum PS2
9 Trauma Center : Jouez du scalpel NDS
10 Soul calibur 3 PS2

No PSP or X360 games in the top 20.

Great to see a game like Trauma Center doing well, and ACWW continues to dominate the WORLD.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on May 12, 2006, 05:53:17 AM
Nice to see a chart from somewhere other than Japan!  Weird to see Mario posting all these non-sarcastic comments.

GBA's disappearance is basically what I expected.  Mother 3 is like the grand finale, and now Nintendo will let GBA die.  I always thought the third pillar concept was a way to back out if the DS concept failed...Nintendo could always fall back on good 'ol Game Boy.  Instead, the system is huge so Nintendo is letting the Game Boy die.  Was there a single new first-party game for it announced at E3?

Reminds me of the final days of the NES...third parties will keep supporting it for a while, but for Nintendo it's done.  Kind of makes my eyes mist up... MEEEEEEEMORIIEEEEEES.....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 12, 2006, 07:02:57 AM
Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon was announced.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2006, 07:29:38 AM
So, how is this thing doing in the states? Been a while since I saw some DSvPSP sales for the last bastion of irrational consumerism.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joedick on May 12, 2006, 07:52:17 AM
Quote

Reminds me of the final days of the NES...third parties will keep supporting it for a while, but for Nintendo it's done.


Wasn't the final NES game first party? I think it was Wario's Woods
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on May 12, 2006, 01:31:28 PM
Hmm, you're right joedick.  I do faintly remember that game's release, but (in my rather poor memory) I think the last year or so of the NES' new releases were dominated by third parties.  I remember Kirby and Wario's Woods...was there anything else?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on May 12, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
Star Tropics 2.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 12, 2006, 06:57:01 PM
Here are the Console Hardware sales in Japan for May 1 - 7, 2006:

DS Lite - 161,010 units
PSP - 37,946 units
PlayStation 2 - 32,030 units
Nintendo DS - 24,428 units
GBA-SP - 7,144 units
GB Micro - 3,830 units
Xbox 360 - 2,019 units
GameCube - 1,460 units
GBA - 87 units
Xbox - 44 units

Hehe, people haven't caught onto the Wii60 idea yet.  I wonder how 360 sales will fare when the Wii is released. :P
The DSL rocks.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 12, 2006, 07:13:39 PM
DS Lite shortages continue...

It would be hilarious if Xbox 360 sales rise next week after the PS3 screwup.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on May 12, 2006, 07:44:22 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Here are the Console Hardware sales in Japan for May 1 - 7, 2006:
Xbox 360 - 2,019 units
GameCube - 1,460 units




Looks like XBOX360 is winning the console wars in Japan

Some forum users in Australia are reporting that used DS-Lites were selling for more than used XBOX360's during Goldenweek clearence sales.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 16, 2006, 07:20:13 PM
I'm a little confused.  Here's why. Magicbox is reporting that Nintendo announced that Animal Crossing WW has sold a total of 3 million copies worldwide.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it sold over 2.6 million alone in Japan?  Does this mean that in the 6+ months the game has been out in the US and Europe, it has only sold 400,000 combined between the two markets?  

Please someone tell me that is a type and it's supposed to be closer to 5 million sold.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 16, 2006, 07:32:11 PM
Not a typo... that's how insanely different the game markets are. The game is going to have decent legs though, and it only just came out in Europe a month or two ago, and is still at the top of most European charts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Renny on May 16, 2006, 07:55:03 PM
And it was undershipped in the US.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2006, 10:27:31 PM
I know its Unofficial but its supposedly reliable.....
LTD Hardware #'s for Japan:

As of May 7, 2006:

PS2 19,296,470
GBA 8,822,171
DS 6,489,896
GBASP 5,819,663
GCN 4,140,930
PSP 3,403,508
DSL 1,383,391
GBM 505,020
XBox 475,289
XBox360 116,709

GBA 15,135,279
DS 7,873,290

Nintendo 27,160,560
Sony 22,699,978
Microsoft 591,998

thoughts, comments...?  

edit: added PSP #'s (Sony total - PS2 #'s = PSP #'s)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on May 16, 2006, 10:51:56 PM
Think DS can beat the PS2's record?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on May 16, 2006, 11:02:15 PM
If they don't kill it early with another portable, sure.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2006, 11:07:32 PM
well its only been out for a little over a year and 1/2 and its already @ > 1/3 of the way there and thats not even counting the amount sold that we will find out about on thursday.

If it keeps selling at this rate, not only will it sky rocket past GBA in record time, it will eclipse PS2 especially given the amount of time PS2 has been out for vs DS/L.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 17, 2006, 12:23:04 AM
Why isn't there any psp numbers?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 17, 2006, 03:54:19 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Think DS can beat the PS2's record?

Of course. I think it could beat it quite handily, but Nintendo aren't letting it with their shipping screwups. They could be selling 500k per week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 17, 2006, 05:57:43 PM
The DS combined is actually at 40% of the PS2's sales in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 17, 2006, 06:10:49 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Shorty McNostril
Why isn't there any psp numbers?

Because they are less than DS' sales numbers...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 17, 2006, 06:23:34 PM
Media Create Sales: 8 - 14 May

1. (PS2, Namco) Jikkyou Powerful Major League - 90,000
2. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 70,000 / 448,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Training - 55,000 / 2,219,000
4. (PS2, Konami) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 - 51,000 / 612,000
5. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Training - 38,000 / 2,175,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 31,000 / 2,676,000
7. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 28,000 / 1,026,000
8. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: The Road to Diamond & Pearl - 17,000 / 514,000
9. (PS2, Square Enix) Dragon Quest Shonen Yangus & Fushigi no Dungeon - 15,000 / 231,000
10. (GBA, Nintendo) Mother 3 - 14,000 / 305,000

Tetris DS not  a flop after all! English Training passes one million. Not much else happening.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on May 17, 2006, 11:56:04 PM
It's nice to see Tetris DS do so well Anyway, I thought I'd post the April NPD sales... No official source, but apparently they are legit... I've seen this posted on several forums...

Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS II Square Enix
2 360 T. CLANCYS GHOST RECON: ADVANCED WARFIGHTER Ubi Soft
3 360 ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION Take 2 Interactive
4 360 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K6 Take 2 Interactive
5 360 BATTLEFIELD 2: MODERN COMBAT Electronic Arts
6 360 TOMB RAIDER: LEGEND Eidos
7 PS2 THE GODFATHER: THE GAME Electronic Arts
8 PS2 MLB '06: THE SHOW Sony
9 PS2 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K6 Take 2 Interactive
10 PS2 TOMB RAIDER: LEGEND Eidos
11 PS2 TOURIST TROPHY: THE REAL RIDING SIMULATOR Sony
12 360 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 Electronic Arts
13 PS2 GUITAR HERO BUNDLE RedOctane
14 XBX MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K6 Take 2 Interactive
15 360 CALL OF DUTY 2 Activision
16 PS2 NBA BALLERS: PHENOM Midway
17 PS2 ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN Vivendi
18 PS2 GOD OF WAR Sony
19 360 FAR CRY: INSTINCTS PREDATOR Ubi Soft
20 NDS METROID PRIME: HUNTERS Nintendo
21 XBX THE GODFATHER: THE GAME Electronic Arts
22 360 FINAL FANTASY XI ONLINE Square Enix
23 PS2 BLACK Electronic Arts
24 360 BLAZING ANGELS: SQUADRONS OF WWII Ubi Soft
25 GCN SONIC RIDERS Sega

Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.

I hate this "ranked in terms of $$$" crap. How is $20 Brain Training supposed to go up against $60 Xbox360 games?  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 18, 2006, 04:29:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: wandering
If they don't kill it early with another portable, sure.



well Iwata already said they aren't releasing another handheld any time soon
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on May 18, 2006, 06:25:30 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Quote

Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Think DS can beat the PS2's record?

Of course. I think it could beat it quite handily, but Nintendo aren't letting it with their shipping screwups. They could be selling 500k per week.


Of course this is the problem with business.  Good times may mean higher costs, and then you enter a balancing act.  You've got a hot economy right now, so the cost of opening a new factory (or whatever it would take to satisfy demand in Japan) is going to be really high.  I agree Nintendo should probably do more to take advantage of this situation, but it seems like the company has been taken by surprise.  I imagine (or at least hope) Nintendo's working on something to fix this problem right now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on May 18, 2006, 09:28:54 AM
I'm really surprised to see so many Xbox 360 games in the NPD numbers.  Five out of the top six games?  Ten out of the top 25?  Geez.  For a system that sucks so bad, people sure are buying a lot of expensive games.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clevelandst124 on May 18, 2006, 02:56:19 PM
There's a few reasons for the 360 domination.

A.  360 games cost 20% percent more than PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, and PSP games.  Actually most likely more as these systems have flooded the budget price $20-30 market while a budget game on the xbox cost the same as the other consoles.  And we know NPD ranks on money.

B.  Like it or not, the 360 is selling loads more than the other consoles.  People are holding out buying the current consoles to save money for the next one.  Usually when a new console launches it typically has an attach rate 2.  People on the older consoles are probably saving up to buy a game every couple of months.

C.  Lastly, the games on the chart suck.  Notably an opinion, but New Super Mario is the only thing I'm interested in at full price.  I'll wait for the games to come down or get some of the sweet looking games that will come out during the holiday period.  Which incidently sells multiple times April's numbers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 18, 2006, 06:15:54 PM
DSL 91,895
PSP 27,127
PS2 21,138
GBASP 6,317
DS 3,438
GBM 2,628
Xbox360 1,355
GC 1,069
GBA 40
Xbox 36

OUCH!!! DS copping it HARD! Nintendo are in trouble now. DS is getting absolutely destroyed by the GBA SP, PS2, and PSP (if all of THOSE are considering dead systems, i'd hate to think of what the DS has become), whereas DS Lite sales were split in HALF. Welp, it's over. The Japanese public have decided that they aren't going to put up with Nintendos bs shipping "problems" (more like tactics, bad ones) anymore. PSP and Xbox 360, it is your turn to shine. At least Nintendo have Europe right? For now at least.

Lower shipment than usual due to the US / Aus DS Lite launches? Probably not, but maybe!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 18, 2006, 07:13:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
DSL 91,895
PSP 27,127
PS2 21,138
GBASP 6,317
DS 3,438
GBM 2,628
Xbox360 1,355
GC 1,069
GBA 40
Xbox 36

OUCH!!! DS copping it HARD! Nintendo are in trouble now. DS is getting absolutely destroyed by the GBA SP, PS2, and PSP (if all of THOSE are considering dead systems, i'd hate to think of what the DS has become), whereas DS Lite sales were split in HALF. Welp, it's over. The Japanese public have decided that they aren't going to put up with Nintendos bs shipping "problems" (more like tactics, bad ones) anymore. PSP and Xbox 360, it is your turn to shine. At least Nintendo have Europe right? For now at least.

Lower shipment than usual due to the US / Aus DS Lite launches? Probably not, but maybe!



Yeah can you believe it DS only sells more than every other system combined, pathetic, Nintendo is dooooooooooomed
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on May 19, 2006, 07:58:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
DSL 91,895
PSP 27,127
PS2 21,138
GBASP 6,317
DS 3,438
GBM 2,628
Xbox360 1,355
GC 1,069
GBA 40
Xbox 36

OUCH!!! DS copping it HARD! Nintendo are in trouble now. DS is getting absolutely destroyed by the GBA SP, PS2, and PSP (if all of THOSE are considering dead systems, i'd hate to think of what the DS has become), whereas DS Lite sales were split in HALF. Welp, it's over. The Japanese public have decided that they aren't going to put up with Nintendos bs shipping "problems" (more like tactics, bad ones) anymore. PSP and Xbox 360, it is your turn to shine. At least Nintendo have Europe right? For now at least.

Lower shipment than usual due to the US / Aus DS Lite launches? Probably not, but maybe!


Yay! The Mario we know and love is back!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on May 19, 2006, 10:17:24 PM
I was thinking tonight, there is going to come a day when the DS is not the number one selling system in Japan. You know what that day is?


Launch day of the Nintendo Wii. Oh yeah.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 24, 2006, 07:23:13 PM
Media Create May 15-21

Software:
1 PS2 hack//G.U. Vol. 1 - 90,946 NEW
2 NDS Brain training 2 - 61,679 (2,280,977)
3 NDS Tetris DS - 50,937 (498,857)
4 NDS Brain training - 45,196 (2,220,142)
5 PS2 Winning Eleven 10 - 44,530 (656,508)
6 NDS Animal Crossing - 33,470 (2,709,487)
7 PS2 Powerful Major League - 33,278 (122,814)
8 NDS English training - 29,250 (1,055,274)
9 NDS Pokemon Ranger - 17,935 (531,841)
10 NDS Mario Kart DS - 16,119 (1,383,408)
~
11. Beatmania II DX
12. Calchobit
13. Namco Right Brain Training: Point Blank Training
14. Mother 3
15. Kanji Sonomama DS Rakubiki Jiten
16. Dragon Quest Shonen Yangus & Fushigi no Dungeon
17. Big Brain Academy
18. Okami
19. Final Fantasy XII
20. Naruto 4 DS
21. Monster Hunter Portable
22. Tamagotchi Connection Corner Shop
23. Kazuo
24. Seiken Densetsu DS CHILDREN of MANA
25. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable
26. Dragon Ball Z Shin Budokai
27. Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros.
28. Animal Yokochou: Doki*Doki Shinkyuu Shiken! no Kan
29. Mother 1 + 2
30. Dare Demo Asobi Taizen

Hardware:
as usual comes tomorrow(thursday)

Looks like the trainings just won't stop, wonder if it will have legs like that in the U.S.

edit: updated with 11-30 and more exact #'s
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 24, 2006, 07:29:29 PM
I like how Mario Kart came back out of nowhere...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 24, 2006, 08:33:01 PM
and also Super Mario Bros Famicom Mini Classic is back at #27. The Japanese are really anticipated New Super Mario Bros, which has been #1 at amazon japan for the past two weeks despite still not having been released. I think it comes out today...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on May 24, 2006, 08:55:24 PM
I still wish Super Mario Bros. 2 (JPN) would have been released here in the Classic NES series.

I could always import it though...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on May 24, 2006, 09:07:17 PM
Good news..
Quote

New Super Mario Bros. jumps into number-one slot of Best Buy's bestseller list; DS duo leads Xbox 360- and PS2-heavy top 10.

For months, games for the Nintendo DS have topped the bestseller lists in Japan, with brain-training games showing sustained popularity. Now that trend is being repeated across the Pacific. According to online sales figures reported to GameSpot by national retailer Best Buy, the two most popular games for the week of May 14 were both for Nintendo's dual-screen portable. New Super Mario Bros. was the number-one game, followed by Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day, which has remained in the top 10 since its release a month ago.

But while the DS ruled the roost at retailers this week, games for Nintendo's other platforms were nowhere to be found in the top 10. The remaining eight slots were split between Sony's current-generation console and Microsoft's next-gen machine. Places three through six were all Xbox 360 titles--The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, The collector's edition of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and Madden NFL 06. Behind the quartet was a trio of PlayStation 2 titles--Kingdom Hearts II (seventh), Madden NFL 2006 (eighth), and Genji Dawn of the Samurai (ninth). Finally, bringing up the rear was recurring favorite Call of Duty 2 for the Xbox 360.
I said that I would give up on the DS for the North American market if Mario and the DS Lite didn't make an impact. Well, I guess it's not over yet.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on May 24, 2006, 10:53:23 PM
I happy. Faith in american market restored.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 25, 2006, 12:46:50 AM
Some April NPD for you.

Company / system / game / April Sales / April $$$ / LTD

NINTENDO NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN IN MIN 90,317 $1,794,676 90,317
NINTENDO NDS METROID PRIME: HUNTERS 68,724 $2,396,047 191,451
NINTENDO GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 58,049 $1,093,502 2,121,881
NINTENDO NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD 43,193 $1,508,820 534,729
NINTENDO NDS TETRIS 40,998 $1,298,747 97,441
NINTENDO GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 40,662 $761,274 1,195,789
NINTENDO GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA 39,189 $739,738 1,012,732
NINTENDO NGC MARIO KART: DOUBLE 36,337 $1,082,131 2,216,349
NINTENDO NDS MARIO KART 34,655 $1,209,531 906,871
NINTENDO NDS SUPER PRINCESS PEACH 33,652 $1,174,239 139,307
NINTENDO NGC SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 33,404 $604,916 2,471,774
NINTENDO GBA POKEMON EMERALD 31,204 $1,088,922 1,842,063
NINTENDO NDS NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS 29,577 $912,757 730,708
NINTENDO NGC SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 27,826 $831,237 3,227,199
NINTENDO NGC SUPER MARIO STRIKERS 27,740 $1,382,477 467,576
NINTENDO NDS POKEMON TROZEI 26,346 $920,862 82,340
NINTENDO NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIENDS 26,138 $807,323 617,813
NINTENDO NGC ANIMAL CROSSING 25,706 $469,453 1,311,442
NINTENDO NDS NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS 22,420 $695,222 569,412
NINTENDO GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 22,353 $689,319 2,177,689
NINTENDO NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 21,710 $664,428 1,403,856
NINTENDO NGC KIRBY AIR RIDE 20,268 $367,806 757,619
NINTENDO NDS MARIO & LUIGI: PARTNERS IN TIME 19,726 $689,468 407,247
NINTENDO NGC MARIO PARTY 7 19,086 $950,994 614,610
NINTENDO NGC LUIGI'S MANSION 17,417 $308,533 1,904,338
NINTENDO GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 3 13,107 $392,208 321,231
NINTENDO NGC MARIO SUPERSTAR BASEBALL 13,010 $648,767 464,911
NINTENDO GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP 12,608 $423,646 1,482,100
NINTENDO GBA MARIO TENNIS: POWER TOUR 12,491 $348,279 139,536
NINTENDO GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP 12,440 $428,961 1,680,005
NINTENDO NGC ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER 10,316 $199,841 2,130,809
NINTENDO NGC METROID PRIME 2: ECHO 9,469 $192,340 650,427
NINTENDO NGC CHIBI-ROBO 9,350 $465,703 39,614
NINTENDO GBA FINAL FANTASY IV ADVANCE 9,306 $277,338 173,197
NINTENDO NGC MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL 9,124 $173,741 831,313
NINTENDO GBA POKEMON RUBY 8,823 $278,146 2,487,808
NINTENDO NGC POKEMON XD: GALE OF DARKNESS 8,794 $437,603 381,779
NINTENDO GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE 8,459 $265,182 2,250,273
NINTENDO GBA TALES OF PHANTASIA 8,254 $261,388 30,284
NINTENDO GBA ZELDA: THE MINISH CAP 5,817 $175,142 684,141
NINTENDO GBA MARIO PARTY ADVANCE 5,679 $169,507 382,302
NINTENDO NGC ODAMA W/MICROPHONE 5,511 $273,954 5,511
NINTENDO NGC PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND 5,174 $161,812 696,593
NINTENDO NDS WARIOWARE: TOUCHED! 4,768 $165,898 406,123
NINTENDO NDS KIRBY: CANVAS CURSE 4,380 $152,663 270,335
NINTENDO NDS ADVANCE WARS : DUAL STRIKE 4,295 $148,489 202,093
NINTENDO GBA FIRE EMBLEM: THE SACRED STONES 4,144 $102,344 308,414
NINTENDO NGC FIRE EMBLEM: PATH OF RADIANCE 4,132 $204,697 173,858
NINTENDO GBA DR. MARIO/PUZZLE LEAGUE 4,114 $122,761 64,589
NINTENDO GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR 3,706 $108,272 620,838
NINTENDO GBA YOSHI: TOPSY-TURVY 3,590 $87,205 162,180
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 25, 2006, 01:16:31 AM
Company / system / game / April Sales / April $$$ / LTD

ACTIVISION NGC MADAGASCAR 30,008 $512,660 305,759
ACTIVISION GBA MADAGASCAR 25,310 $429,307 444,583
ACTIVISION GBA MADAGASCAR: OPERATN PENGUIN 18,140 $307,825 237,429
ACTIVISION GBA SHREK SUPERSLAM 12,545 $203,221 162,540
ACTIVISION GBA ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN 10,923 $202,869 153,289
ACTIVISION NGC SHREK 2 10,482 $188,261 544,203
ACTIVISION NGC SHREK SUPERSLAM 7,313 $144,441 104,765
ACTIVISION NGC ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN 7,298 $150,286 132,301
~
ATARI GBA BACKYARD BASEBALL 2K6 8,206 $129,978 184,161
ATARI NDS DRAGONBALL Z: SUPERSONIC WARRIOR 2 5,097 $137,434 81,361
ATARI NDS MONOPOLY/BOGGLE/YAHTZEE/BATT 3,879 $103,077 35,550
ATARI GBA DRAGONBALL Z: GOKU I & II 2,417 $72,239 27,090
ATARI GBA DRAGONBALL GT: TRANSFORM 2,340 $72,728 152,939
ATARI GBA DRAGONBALL Z BUU'S FURY/GT TRANSFO 2,159 $64,717 2,339
ATARI NGC DRAGONBALL Z: BUDOKAI 1,788 $24,727 440,741
ATARI GBA DRAGONBALL Z: BUU'S 1,558 $29,872 343,488
ATARI GBA TOTALLY SPIES 1,417 $29,388 13,116
ATARI NDS RETRO ATARI 1,342 $21,568 62,025
ATARI NGC DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI2 1,338 $35,645 161,236
ATARI NGC KAO THE KANGAROO: ROUND 2 1,286 $25,677 1,412
~
ATLUS NDS TRAUMA CENTER: UNDER KNIFE 2,768 $82,326 75,561
~
BANDAI NDS TAMAGOTCHI CONNECTION: CORNR 12,231 $366,301 53,898
BANDAI GBA ZATCHBELL: ELECTRIC ARENA 2,273 $68,134 13,545
BANDAI GBA ONE PIECE: GRAND BATTLE 1,389 $29,608 22,971
~
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA DISNEY'S CHICKEN LITTLE 47,692 $864,301 342,668
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA CHRONICLES OF NARNIA 46,891 $861,224 334,080
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA THE WILD 22,768 $434,077 23,052
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA THAT'S SO RAVEN 2 16,416 $315,988 241,231
BUENA VISTA GAMES NGC CHRONICLES OF NARNIA 13,956 $420,139 125,738
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA DISNEY'S KIM POSSIBLE 3 12,091 $231,260 218,103
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA DISNEY'S HERBIE:FULLY LOADED 9,452 $172,688 184,991
BUENA VISTA GAMES NGC DISNEY'S CHICKEN LITTLE 7,669 $229,725 134,429
BUENA VISTA GAMES NDS CHRONICLES OF NARNIA 7,234 $215,700 108,857
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA LIZZIE MCGUIRE 3 6,131 $121,358 153,044
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA THAT'S SO RAVEN 5,410 $82,028 431,409
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA DISNEYS LILO & STITCH 4,833 $71,071 615,345
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA THE PROUD FAMILY 4,410 $86,012 62,329
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA CINDERELLA: MAGICAL DREAMS 2,929 $55,690 61,913
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS 2,743 $53,849 66,929
BUENA VISTA GAMES GBA LIZZIE MCGUIRE 2 2,496 $44,804 463,981
~
EIDOS INTERACTIVE NGC LEGO STAR WARS 27,420 $815,869 337,298
EIDOS INTERACTIVE GBA LEGO STAR WARS 16,962 $506,524 577,026
~
CAPCOM USA NGC RESIDENT EVIL 4 21,730 $422,487 698,189
CAPCOM USA NGC MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY 6,384 $109,339 248,716
CAPCOM USA NDS RESIDENT EVILEADLY SILENCE 5,201 $174,414 58,939
CAPCOM USA NGC MEGA MAN X COLLECTION 4,563 $135,411 55,317
CAPCOM USA NGC KILLER 7 2,515 $41,777 43,066
CAPCOM USA NDS MEGA MAN BATTLE 5: DBLE TEAM 2,361 $68,017 38,894
CAPCOM USA GBA MEGA MAN ZERO 4 2,355 $59,254 51,715
CAPCOM USA NGC VIEWTIFUL JOE: RED HOT RMBLE 1,862 $47,371 20,765
CAPCOM USA NDS VIEWTIFUL JOE: DOUBLE TRBLE 1,499 $37,223 28,293
CAPCOM USA NGC RESIDENT EVIL 1,452 $22,788 542,656
~
ELECTRONIC ARTS NGC NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND 2 25,225 $475,454 423,102
ELECTRONIC ARTS NDS THE SIMS 2 22,939 $442,098 197,320
~
KONAMI GBA YU-GI-OH ! ULTIMATE MASTERS 33,634 $1,006,197 61,662
KONAMI GBA YU-GI-OH! GX DUEL ACADEMY 8,998 $269,012 118,018
KONAMI GBA FROGGER'S ADV: TEMPLE 7,971 $56,291 1,706,740
KONAMI GBA YU-GI-OH! DOUBLE PACK 6,537 $195,287 17,210
KONAMI GBA YU-GI-OH! DSTNY BOARD 6,330 $97,519 251,465
KONAMI GBA CASTLEVANIA DOUBLE PACK 4,818 $143,980 39,864
KONAMI NDS TAO'S ADVENTURE: CURSE DEMON 3,560 $106,726 6,344
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KOEI GBA DYNASTY WARRIORS ADVANCE 2,348 $53,161 31,229
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MIDWAY ENTERTAINMENT NGC RAMPAGE: TOTAL DESTRUCTION 10,002 $199,072 10,002
MIDWAY ENTERTAINMENT NGC ED EDD EDDY: MIS-EDVENTURES 5,468 $162,371 90,093
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NATSUME NGC HARVEST MOON: MAGICAL MELODY 41,176 $1,635,451 60,894
NATSUME GBA HARVEST MOON: MORE FRIENDS 3,343 $93,830 103,403
NATSUME NGC HARVEST MOON:WONDRFUL 2,629 $51,433 496,447
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NAMCO GBA PAC-MAN COLLECTION 28,162 $268,462 1,633,273
NAMCO GBA NAMCO MUSEUM 12,807 $120,806 2,374,911
NAMCO GBA CURIOUS GEORGE 12,186 $243,385 64,258
NAMCO GBA MS. PAC-MAN MAZE MAD 6,501 $72,126 312,991
NAMCO NGC CURIOUS GEORGE 5,170 $206,014 36,927
NAMCO GBA NAMCO MUSEUM: 50TH ANNIV 4,501 $74,241 91,511
NAMCO NGC TALES OF SYMPHONIA 4,080 $79,943 443,847
NAMCO NGC NAMCO MUSEUM: 50TH ANNIV 3,363 $65,763 98,823
NAMCO GBA PAC-MAN PINBALL ADVNC 2,313 $31,359 54,387
NAMCO NGC PAC-MAN WORLD 3 2,083 $61,573 41,850
NAMCO NGC BATEN KAITOS: ETERNAL 1,757 $40,738 134,494
NAMCO NGC SOUL CALIBUR II 1,705 $29,683 864,207
~
SEGA NGC SONIC RIDERS 53,786 $2,144,060 217,350
SEGA NGC SONIC HEROES 18,005 $339,407 757,882
SEGA NGC SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 14,440 $258,373 766,928
SEGA NGC SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG 13,923 $556,636 341,354
SEGA NGC SONIC MEGA COLLECTION 13,788 $253,304 1,108,280
SEGA NDS SONIC RUSH 12,767 $359,772 206,599
SEGA NDS SUPER MONKEY BALL: TCH & ROL 9,592 $287,030 30,368
SEGA NGC SONIC ADVENTURE 2 7,637 $149,164 1,256,984
SEGA NGC SONIC GEMS COLLECTION 7,633 $151,148 167,447
SEGA GBA SONIC ADV/SONIC PINBALL PACK 6,802 $136,834 63,692
SEGA NGC SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT 3,297 $63,289 608,096
SEGA NGC SUPER MONKEY BALL 2,093 $35,823 694,846
SEGA NGC SPARTAN: TOTAL WARRIOR 1,975 $78,683 25,228
SEGA GBA GUNSTAR SUPER HEROS 1,558 $30,799 30,782
SEGA NDS RUB RABBITS 726 $21,757 6,425
SEGA NDS SEGA CASINO 683 $20,481 8,498
SEGA NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX 591 $9,590 87,324
SEGA NGC SONIC ADVT/SONIC DX 452 $10,927 56,781
SEGA GBA ASTRO BOYMEGA FACTR 403 $5,449 49,603
SEGA NGC SUPER MONKEY BALL BND 344 $9,163 59,603
SEGA NGC PHANTASY STAR: CARD 255 $4,578 48,080
SEGA GBA THE TOWER SP 241 $7,143 357
SEGA NGC BILLY HATCHER 138 $2,267 171,339
SEGA NGC AMAZING ISLAND 115 $2,013 35,674
SEGA NGC NFL 2K3 102 $993 143,079
SEGA NGC SONIC MEGA/SONIC DX 92 $2,698 28,922
SEGA NGC SKIES OF ARCADIA LGND 89 $2,069 151,241
SEGA NGC NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 74 $626 45,298
SEGA NGC NBA 2K3 73 $1,694 101,997
SEGA NGC PUYO POP FEVER 69 $1,242 8,559
SEGA NGC SAMURAI JACK: SHADOW 57 $1,671 10,238
SEGA NGC SOCCER SLAM 42 $885 45,344
SEGA NGC VIRTUA QUEST 37 $879 7,024
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SQUARE ENIX INC GBA KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN 37,817 $739,712 893,111
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TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE GBA PIRATES OF CARIBBEAN 17,405 $179,248 706,553
TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE GBA DORA EXPLORER: SUPER STAR ADVENTUR 16,725 $198,415 145,289
TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE GBA DORA EXPLORER: SUPER SPIES 11,144 $123,251 355,181
TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE NGC CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY 7,933 $166,895 104,210
TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE NGC ARMY MEN: SARGES WAR 7,601 $76,191 72,753
TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE GBA SUDOKU FEVER 6,013 $119,514 20,801
TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE NGC ARMY MEN: RTS 5,259 $53,144 29,693
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THQ NDS ZOO TYCOON 22,494 $671,899 220,092
THQ GBA DISNEY PRINCESS 20,947 $303,958 911,197
THQ GBA INCREDIBLES 2: RISE UNDRMINR 17,530 $342,191 180,268
~
TECMO GBA MONSTER RANCHER ADV 2 31 $788 57,275
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MAJESCO GBA CARTOON NETWORK SPEED 12,822 $131,606 354,582
MAJESCO GBA STRAW SHRTCAKE:SUMMER 8,552 $83,785 361,870
MAJESCO NDS AGE OF EMPIRES II: THE AGE OF KING 7,992 $239,119 40,775
MAJESCO GBA QUAD DESERT FURY 6,453 $46,803 522,700
MAJESCO GBA GOLDEN NUGGET CASINO 6,378 $65,558 110,749
MAJESCO NDS ATV: QUAD FRENZY 5,584 $100,040 34,597
MAJESCO GBA TEXAS HOLD 'EM POKER 4,617 $40,546 335,858
MAJESCO GBA SPONGEBOB VOL 1 4,506 $26,806 351,193
MAJESCO GBA NICKTOONS COLL VOL 2 4,451 $50,956 113,030
MAJESCO GBA SPONGEBOB VOL 2 4,311 $49,954 291,511
MAJESCO GBA NICKTOONS COLL VOL 1 4,294 $47,750 350,336
MAJESCO GBA TEEN TITANS 4,145 $118,149 78,436
MAJESCO GBA MONSTER TRUCKS/QUAD DESERT 3,679 $69,203 83,749
MAJESCO GBA FAIRLYODD VOL 1 3,222 $23,290 236,056
MAJESCO GBA FAIRLYODD VOL 2 3,202 $22,344 219,666
MAJESCO GBA MONSTER TRUCKS 2,657 $32,118 341,034
MAJESCO GBA BATTLEBOTS: DESIGN 2,444 $17,288 239,896
MAJESCO NDS BUST-A-MOVE 2,356 $40,857 18,592
MAJESCO NDS MONSTER TRUCKS 1,975 $33,812 20,056
MAJESCO GBA DODGE BALL/BOWLING/PAINTBALL 1,962 $29,258 2,276
MAJESCO GBA OPERATION: ARMORED 1,938 $16,766 140,405
MAJESCO NDS GUILTY GEAR: DUST STRIKERS 1,640 $49,071 1,640
MAJESCO GBA KONG: KING OF ATLANTIS 1,487 $28,916 13,838
MAJESCO GBA SHREK 2 1,483 $29,546 105,959
MAJESCO GBA CARTOON NTWK COL VOL1 1,427 $14,385 174,688
MAJESCO GBA DRAGONBALL GT VOL 1 1,411 $13,867 93,354
MAJESCO GBA CARTOON NETWORK BLOCK 1,311 $14,054 25,117
MAJESCO GBA CARTOON NTWK SPEC ED 1,278 $13,161 77,225
MAJESCO NDS SUPER BLACK BASS FISHING 1,126 $22,454 1,205
MAJESCO GBA SHARK TALE 1,098 $21,832 29,149
MAJESCO NDS TEXAS HOLD 'EM POKER 1,092 $20,316 8,991
MAJESCO GBA F/A-18F SUPER HORNET 872 $12,387 160,092
MAJESCO NDS NANOSTRAY 837 $23,757 32,110
MAJESCO GBA F-14 TOMCAT 713 $10,352 399,979
MAJESCO GBA SHREK 640 $12,719 16,674
MAJESCO GBA SHREK/SHARK TALE COMBO 636 $24,556 11,259
MAJESCO GBA DORA EXPLORER VOL 1 576 $5,511 145,721
MAJESCO GBA NINJA TURTLES VOL 1 544 $5,746 94,562
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UBISOFT GBA CATZ 33,258 $944,246 41,828
UBISOFT GBA DOGZ 30,168 $901,457 229,338
UBISOFT GBA SW EPISODE III: SITH 11,958 $242,428 368,233
UBISOFT NGC KING KONG: PETER JACKSON'S 9,748 $292,552 132,630
UBISOFT GBA KONG: 8TH WONDER OF THE WORLD 9,317 $278,280 241,517
UBISOFT NDS LOST MAGIC 6,396 $191,492 6,396
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VIVENDI GBA ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN 59,261 $1,656,551 85,368
VIVENDI NGC ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN 46,464 $1,732,367 72,096
VIVENDI NDS ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN 28,616 $827,194 43,787
VIVENDI NGC SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN 12,700 $228,660 571,840
VIVENDI GBA THE HOBBIT 10,386 $104,688 171,038
VIVENDI NGC CRASH BANDICOOT:CORTX 7,772 $93,333 370,908
VIVENDI GBA CRASH SUPERPACK VOL 1 5,838 $116,292 53,775
VIVENDI GBA BARBIE SUPERPACK 5,383 $107,144 68,390
VIVENDI GBA BARBIE PRINCESS AND THE PAUPER 5,062 $78,521 138,794
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 25, 2006, 04:57:04 PM
So many numbers.  I just don't care in the face of TEXT TEXT TEXT TEXT TEXT UALE.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 25, 2006, 05:17:58 PM
DSL     160,182
PSP    24,457
PS2    20,633
DS    16,867
GBASP    6,174
GBM    2,245
Xbox360    1,403
GC    1,051
GBA    25
Xbox    20
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 25, 2006, 07:01:15 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus

GBA    25
Xbox    20
GBA and Xbox are going to slip into single digits soon.

Though... as a side note... is Nintendo actually still manufacturing old style GBA's? Or is this just some ancient GBA stock that people are finding and for some reason still buying (like a large discount)?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 25, 2006, 07:49:29 PM
I see no point in still manufacture those, so I'm guessing those are leftovers....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on May 25, 2006, 07:51:34 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Though... as a side note... is Nintendo actually still manufacturing old style GBA's? Or is this just some ancient GBA stock that people are finding and for some reason still buying (like a large discount)?


The truth of the matter is that ever so often a store moves around some stock of Xboxs and finds, to their amazement, some old GBA hidden behind them.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 26, 2006, 07:04:51 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
DSL     160,182
PSP    24,457
PS2    20,633
DS    16,867
GBASP    6,174
GBM    2,245
Xbox360    1,403
GC    1,051
GBA    25
Xbox    20


I wonder if those DSL numbers will stay up when it's released in Europe, US, and Australia.  Will Nintendo keep the same allocation numbers in Japan along with the shipments to the other territories?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on May 27, 2006, 02:25:04 AM
They're stockpiling for those launches right now, and likely have been for a couple months, so I don't think supplies will fall too hard.

Doesn't NSMB come out this week, though? That should be huge...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2006, 04:27:49 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
They're stockpiling for those launches right now, and likely have been for a couple months, so I don't think supplies will fall too hard.

Doesn't NSMB come out this week, though? That should be huge...
I'm sure you saw it in the other thread, but 480,000 copies sold of NSMB on release date - click here >Link is right >here<< = #1 best selling Mario &/or DS game to date in first day &/or 1st week ever. And this IS just the first day sales!!!!

 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 30, 2006, 08:12:46 PM
http://game-science.com/news/001361.php
Quote

At a recent sales and product explanation meeting for retailers, Nintendo revealed that in its first four days of availability since May 25, New Super Mario Bros. sold through 900,000 copies in Japan.

Good. Gravy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 30, 2006, 08:29:02 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
http://game-science.com/news/001361.php
Quote

At a recent sales and product explanation meeting for retailers, Nintendo revealed that in its first four days of availability since May 25, New Super Mario Bros. sold through 900,000 copies in Japan.

Good. Gravy.

OMG O_O!!!!!! Is that some sort of record.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 30, 2006, 09:31:37 PM
For portables sure and DS absolutly, but for any one game to sell that well in 4 days? Do not Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games sell 1,000,000's on their first few days of release in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 30, 2006, 10:40:50 PM
I guess I should've just check the actual link first
Quote

This makes it by far the best debuting DS game ever, and one of the highest debut for a game in Japan in the last few years, topped only by recent hits such as Final Fantasy XII, Dragon Quest VIII and Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen.


And on another note(also from the link above) Tetris DS has shipped through 800,000 in the 4 weeks since its release.
Those are BIG, BIG numbers for 1st party DS games. I hope 3rd parties can start seeing some similar success too.

FFIII maybe?
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: archioverload on May 31, 2006, 04:14:38 PM
SEGA GBA GUNSTAR SUPER HEROS 1,558 $30,799 30,782

That is teh
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 31, 2006, 04:32:27 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I guess I should've just check the actual link first
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This makes it by far the best debuting DS game ever, and one of the highest debut for a game in Japan in the last few years, topped only by recent hits such as Final Fantasy XII, Dragon Quest VIII and Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen.


And on another note(also from the link above) Tetris DS has shipped through 800,000 in the 4 weeks since its release.
Those are BIG, BIG numbers for 1st party DS games. I hope 3rd parties can start seeing some similar success too.

FFIII maybe?


I think there is a very good chance that FFIII will be a big hit. Heck I don't even care much for the FF series but I'm excited for this one .
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 31, 2006, 07:22:18 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I guess I should've just check the actual link first
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This makes it by far the best debuting DS game ever, and one of the highest debut for a game in Japan in the last few years, topped only by recent hits such as Final Fantasy XII, Dragon Quest VIII and Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen.


And on another note(also from the link above) Tetris DS has shipped through 800,000 in the 4 weeks since its release.
Those are BIG, BIG numbers for 1st party DS games. I hope 3rd parties can start seeing some similar success too.

FFIII maybe?


I think there is a very good chance that FFIII will be a big hit. Heck I don't even care much for the FF series but I'm excited for this one .


Since the reveal of the new look of the remake on DS, the game has shot to number 1 on Famitsu's Most Wanted chart... of course, FF games are usually number one on that list.  FFXIII will probably be in the top 3 in the next two weeks or so.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 31, 2006, 08:06:06 PM
Media Create Sales: 22 - 28 May

1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 899,518
2. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 86,451 / 2,367,429
3. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 62,616 / 2,282,759
4. (PSP, Square Enix) Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable - 48,342
5. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 46,809 / 545,666
6. (PS2, Enterbrain) Kimikiss - 42,127
7. (PS2, Konami) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 - 38,419 / 694,927
8. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 37,222 / 1,092,496
9. (DS, Nintendo) Oideyo Doubutsu no Mori - 36,610 / 2,746,097
10. (PS2, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Major League - 32,742 / 155,557

New SMB didn't reach 900,000 after all = FLOP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2006, 08:16:47 PM
continued from above....

11 - PS2 - Tsuyo Kiss: Mighty Heart (PrincessSoft)
12 - NDS - Pokémon Ranger (Nintendo)
13 - NDS - Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
14 - PS2 - .hack//G.U. Vol.1 (Bandai-Namco)
15 - PSP - Brain Training Portable 2 (SEGA)
16 - NDS - Touch Panic (Nintendo)
17 - PS2 - Street Fighter Zero: Fighter's Generation (Capcom)
18 - PS2 - Space Detective Spirit (Bandai-Namco)
19 - GCN - Jikkyou Powerful Major League (Konami)
20 - PSP - Magna Carta Portable (Banpresto)
21 - NDS - Kanji Training DS (Nintendo)
22 - GBA - MOTHER 3 (Nintendo)
23 - NDS - Yawaraka Atamajuku (Big Brain Academy) (Nintendo)
24 - NDS - SIMPLE DS Series Vol.8: The Kanshikikan - Kinkyuu Shutsudou!! Jiken Genba wo Touch Seyo (!) (D3 Publisher)
25 - PS2 - Dragon Quest Yangus (Square-Enix)
26 - PS2 - Soshite Kono Uchuu ni Kirameku Kimi no Shi (Datam Polystar)
27 - NDS - Right Brain Training: Point Blank Trainer (Bandai-Namco)
28 - PSP - Kamaitachi no Yoru 2 (SEGA)
29 - NDS - Children of Mana (Square-Enix)
30 - PS2 - Mystereet (First Print Limited Edition) (Yeti)
-----------------------------------------------------

Dengeki has DS Lite listed at 302,000 sold this week
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on June 01, 2006, 08:30:47 AM
Huh, Animal Crossing fell to 9th place.  Guess it's starting to lose its steam.  I still think it'll be the first DS game to 3 million sold in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 09:01:09 AM
A GameCube title in the Top 30?  I don't believe it.  (What is it?)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2006, 09:50:54 AM
Clearly Konami is up to some kind of witchcraft.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on June 01, 2006, 11:15:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Media Create Sales: 22 - 28 May

1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 899,518
2. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 86,451 / 2,367,429
3. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 62,616 / 2,282,759
4. (PSP, Square Enix) Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable - 48,342
5. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 46,809 / 545,666
6. (PS2, Enterbrain) Kimikiss - 42,127
7. (PS2, Konami) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 - 38,419 / 694,927
8. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 37,222 / 1,092,496
9. (DS, Nintendo) Oideyo Doubutsu no Mori - 36,610 / 2,746,097
10. (PS2, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Major League - 32,742 / 155,557

New SMB didn't reach 900,000 after all = FLOP.



Again, dude, that BETTER be sarcasm...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 01, 2006, 11:52:43 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64

Again, dude, that BETTER be sarcasm...
No it isn't. Mario and I are stone dead serious. Comon, 900,000 units in 4 days? If anyone, at all, honestly cared about Mario anymore these days we'd have seen 2,000,000 units sold.  New Mario = New Super Flop
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on June 01, 2006, 12:44:42 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
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Originally posted by: pap64

Again, dude, that BETTER be sarcasm...
No it isn't. Mario and I are stone dead serious. Comon, 900,000 units in 4 days? If anyone, at all, honestly cared about Mario anymore these days we'd have seen 2,000,000 units sold.  New Mario = New Super Flop


That's right, it probably won't even make 2.5 million sold in Japan.  Total flop.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 01, 2006, 12:46:48 PM
They should give up now.  This Third Pillar bizness is getting nowhere.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2006, 01:06:07 PM
C'mon guys, don't pretend like you didn't know what Nintendo DS actually stands for....

Nintendo Don't Sell - its a FACT check the statistics
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 01, 2006, 02:29:20 PM
Nintendo D.ead S.ystem.

Confirmed.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on June 01, 2006, 02:33:33 PM
Nintendo Desperate Soccer-moms
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 01, 2006, 05:08:14 PM
Nintendo Devil Squadron  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on June 01, 2006, 05:47:57 PM
Nintendo's Dirty Secret.

There's Japanese school girl's panties inside of them.  That's why all the old men are waiting in line for them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 01, 2006, 07:28:22 PM
DSL     285,025
PSP    27,227
PS2    19,798
GBASP    6,652
DS    4,126
GBM    2,013
Xbox360    1,242
GC    1,116
GBA    44
Xbox    8
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on June 01, 2006, 07:55:56 PM
Damn, the GBASP outsold the DS?

Both combined were beat out by the PSP?

Two Nintendo systems - combined - beat out by the 360?

Mario is right, Nintendo is doomed.

Seriously, check this out though...  Sorry about how some of the labels run together a bit there - made this in a real hurry.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on June 01, 2006, 08:46:34 PM
DSL didn't make 300,000...FLOP completely.  That system is on the way out.  Nintendo better prep the GBNext soon or their market share is going to go bye bye.  Wii can't help them, it's not a portable.  Without a portable, they are lost.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2006, 09:54:23 PM
Guys... let's just be honest for a minute. Around 250k is how much DS has been selling ever since Lite came out, and now it gets a huge new game, possibly the biggest game that will ever release on it, and it doesn't even attract new gamers, the system sells the same amount. If New Super Mario Bros can't sell the DS, what can? Nothing. Sony have the right strategy by not releasing any big guns, ever, so to the public, EVERY PSP game is significant. That way PSP continues to build momentum while DS keeps selling the same. PSP going up, DS staying the same, it's inevitable what's going to happen. Let's just enjoy this moment while it lasts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on June 01, 2006, 11:05:49 PM
Yup the way things are going in about 10 years the DS is gonna get PWND by the PSP.

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No it isn't. Mario and I are stone dead serious. Comon, 900,000 units in 4 days? If anyone, at all, honestly cared about Mario anymore these days we'd have seen 2,000,000 units sold. New Mario = New Super Flop


Nintendo milked Mario one too many times, and the Japanese have shown their not going to stand for it anymore, by making it take 5 days to reach the million mark.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 01, 2006, 11:35:42 PM
All this talking about the PSP though has got me thinking... At E3 '06 one of the PowerPoint slides behind Kaz states that the LTD 'shippments' of PSPs to Japan was 4.7 million units. Now we all know MediaCreate keeps pretty accurate numbers as far as actual sales to customers goes.

So what I was wondering was if though some simple SUPPLY - (UNITS SOLD) we could get an some estimate quick and dirty or nice and accurace as to just how many PSP units are sitting on shelves as of March 31 2006, at least.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Freyr on June 02, 2006, 01:54:06 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
All this talking about the PSP though has got me thinking... At E3 '06 one of the PowerPoint slides behind Kaz states that the LTD 'shippments' of PSPs to Japan was 4.7 million units. Now we all know MediaCreate keeps pretty accurate numbers as far as actual sales to customers goes.

So what I was wondering was if though some simple SUPPLY - (UNITS SOLD) we could get an some estimate quick and dirty or nice and accurace as to just how many PSP units are sitting on shelves as of March 31 2006, at least.


If you go by this page...
http://game-science.com/news/001343.php
Sony is doing some major BS with there numbers. 4.7M - 3.2M = 1.5M units sitting on the shelfs. Thats almost a 50% more then what they sold. Nintendo at the same point had 6.8M DS/Lunits sold in japan.

Current Number at the moment would be here...
http://game-science.com/news/001366.php
DS/L 8.4M vs PSP 3.4M  

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Originally posted by: Mario
Guys... let's just be honest for a minute. Around 250k is how much DS has been selling ever since Lite came out, and now it gets a huge new game, possibly the biggest game that will ever release on it, and it doesn't even attract new gamers, the system sells the same amount. If New Super Mario Bros can't sell the DS, what can? Nothing. Sony have the right strategy by not releasing any big guns, ever, so to the public, EVERY PSP game is significant. That way PSP continues to build momentum while DS keeps selling the same. PSP going up, DS staying the same, it's inevitable what's going to happen. Let's just enjoy this moment while it lasts.


There is a major difference between Sony and Nintendo tho. Nintendo can survive and make huge profit just by themselfs, Sony on the other hand requires third parties to stay afloat. If half of Sony's third party's tomorrow stopped making games for the PS2, PSP, and PS3 and went to Microsoft. Nintendo would be Nintendo and keep doing what they always do and laugh all the way to the bank while Sony would be in huge trouble. Third parties make Sony not the other way around unlike Nintendo's. Don't get me wrong thought Nintendo would not mind more third parties but they don't require them to stay alive.

I think the DS sales is japan is all about a supply problem. Considering they were most likely saving up for the US release(which was yesterday because the street date was broken), they probably just can't ship enough to meet demand in japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on June 02, 2006, 07:54:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Guys... let's just be honest for a minute. Around 250k is how much DS has been selling ever since Lite came out, and now it gets a huge new game, possibly the biggest game that will ever release on it, and it doesn't even attract new gamers, the system sells the same amount. If New Super Mario Bros can't sell the DS, what can? Nothing. Sony have the right strategy by not releasing any big guns, ever, so to the public, EVERY PSP game is significant. That way PSP continues to build momentum while DS keeps selling the same. PSP going up, DS staying the same, it's inevitable what's going to happen. Let's just enjoy this moment while it lasts.


but the psp hasnt been building momentum at all.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 02, 2006, 07:57:34 AM
I can't tell who's being sarcastic and who isn't in this thread.  New Super Mario Bros selling around 900,000 units in four days is bad?  What sort of sales were expected?

I figure if the sales are low a potential for that may be the percieved lack of newness.  New Super Mario Bros, though a fantastic game, if pretty derivative compared to previous 2D Mario platformers.  That plus the title "New Super Mario Bros" might give the idea that it's really not that new of a game.  People might think it's just some remake of Super Mario Bros or a rehash.  It doesn't help that Nintendo releases so many Mario games that the "real" Mario games, like this one, don't stand out.  It takes a dedicated fan to differentiate between the real Mario games and the cash-in spinoffs.

Though I'm not worried about the DS in Japan at all.  In America I am, but in Japan Nintendo's whole non-gamer plan seems to be working so I think they'll be fine.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: mantidor on June 02, 2006, 08:10:14 AM
I think its all sarcasm.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 02, 2006, 08:10:45 AM
NSMB selling 900,000 in four days is exceptional, Ian. Though ironically your comment is exactly what they were satirizing  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 02, 2006, 08:29:48 AM
"NSMB selling 900,000 in four days is exceptional, Ian."

That's what I figured but everyone was acting so damn serious.  Sarcasm is pretty much impossible to interpret through writing.  At least write "TEH D00MED!!111" so everyone can tell that you're goofing around.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2006, 08:49:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
DSL     285,025
PSP    27,227
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.
.
DS    4,126



Oh my gumdrops...

Does this mean that the DS system is outselling the PSP in Japan by a factor of more than ten?!?!?!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 02, 2006, 09:06:29 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I can't tell who's being sarcastic and who isn't in this thread.  New Super Mario Bros selling around 900,000 units in four days is bad?  What sort of sales were expected?
I mean, geez, comon Ian, how much more over the top would we have had to go? And, who, pray tell, started it all? Mario? Comon.... we've had to have had this discussion at least 10 times now:

YES, MARIO IS SARCASTIC IN HIS COMMENTARY WHEN HE POSTS THE MEDIA CREATE NUMBERS! (do we need to sticky a thread on this?)

So, Pap64, it's nothing personal, but you will get poop flug at you these days if you have to ask whether or not Mario is being starcastic. I hurled the first volly and then everyone else joined in.
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 02, 2006, 09:12:43 AM
This forum needs a sarcastic filter.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 02, 2006, 09:30:00 AM
This forum needs a people who use sarcasm filter.

It. is. no. longer. funny.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2006, 09:37:17 AM
Sarcasm? Noooo.... Of course not! that would be silly.

See what I did there?

On the Subject, DS is doomed as soon as Microsoft releases its X-boy portable.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 02, 2006, 09:59:33 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
This forum needs a sarcastic filter.


It already has one.  Observe:  sparkling innovation!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: willie1234 on June 02, 2006, 10:03:11 AM
i'm confused
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2006, 10:21:13 AM
You took the noun and used it as an adjective?

OH! LOL! I just got it!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 02, 2006, 10:42:37 AM
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Originally posted by: willie1234
i'm confused


Gimmick = Sparkling Innovation

It's an emoticon filter trap.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: willie1234 on June 02, 2006, 11:04:24 AM
just another sparkling innovation
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 02, 2006, 11:10:51 AM
Yes, so just so we are all clear.  Mario is being quite sarcastic, and has been sarcastic for a while now.  He is satirizing both Ian Sane's hyper-negativity and certain selections from Gaming Age Forums PSP fanboy comments.  The DS platform is breaking records for sales in normally slow months, as well as maintaining unbelievably high sales week over week, only seemingly limited by their access to raw materials and time.  New Super Mario Bros. might just be the fastest selling Mario game of All Time.  And Animal Crossing:Wild World may have just outsold Final Fantasy XII.

I told you it would get out of hand, Mario.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 02, 2006, 11:48:14 AM
For those of you who can't tell, Deg is being sarcastic.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 02, 2006, 11:50:47 AM
So is vudu.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: willie1234 on June 02, 2006, 11:58:24 AM
this statement is sparkling innovation
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2006, 12:47:19 PM
never happening
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
Well I think everyone here is being a goofball, so that way I don't need to pick out the sarcastic ones.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2006, 05:58:21 PM
You demonstrate great prowess with the one half of your brain.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 02, 2006, 06:52:57 PM
I am not a goofball.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 02, 2006, 07:05:43 PM
This thread is flopping.

In sales related news Metroid Prime Hunters is the #1 game in Australia at the moment!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2006, 07:17:41 PM
It doesn't just print money...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on June 02, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
I love this thread, it has top notch sarcasm everywhere....

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Originally posted by: Mario
This thread is flopping.

In sales related news Metroid Prime Hunters is the #1 game in Australia at the moment!
I always thought Nintendo and Australia were in a hate/hate relationship.....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 02, 2006, 07:27:39 PM
Yeah... which is why it's so newsworthy! DS has taken off everywhere, but the US. GC has 0.0001% marketshare here, but DS is leading right now, yet in the US where the GC got more than half it's worldwide sales, DS isn't so hot! It's crazy!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Freyr on June 03, 2006, 06:41:07 AM
Hey all I made a spread sheet with all the sale data from Jan 05 to the end of may 06. I put it in the another thread so it doesn't get lost in the sea of posts here.
http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=16315
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 03, 2006, 07:34:29 AM
Could you please make an xls version too? I'd like to see but I'm not installing a program just for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Freyr on June 03, 2006, 12:18:07 PM
Here are two other versions. I make no promise that it will look correct or the math will be done correctly, when opened in MS Office. The HTML version should look the same for anybody. If you just want to look at it and not edit it just grab the HTML version.
HTML
<Removed Link, It was out of data>
XLS
<Removed Link, It was out of data>

If you find any errors please give a shout and I'll fix it. Thats why I made a separate post, which got locked . It was not to discuss the weekly numbers but to have you all look at my work if you wanted to and give feed back.

Almost forgot this work is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License.
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MarioAllStar on June 03, 2006, 12:58:54 PM
Very informative spreadsheet. Does that data include global sales, or is it just Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Freyr on June 03, 2006, 01:19:56 PM
It's only for japan because it's the only area that has data regularly and the numbers aren't fudged by the companies making the systems. In the US Wal-Mart and a few other retail place don't release there sales data and companies like Sony withhold data if they are losing in sales at the moment. If you look at the reply I gave a few pages ago Sony plays with some fuzzy numbers. To my knowledge videogames when sold in Japan are counted by a system like in the US when a Music CD is sold.

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If you go by this page...
http://game-science.com/news/001343.php
Sony is doing some major BS with there numbers. 4.7M - 3.2M = 1.5M units sitting on the shelfs. Thats almost a 50% more then what they sold. Nintendo at the same point had 6.8M DS/Lunits sold in japan.
Current Number at the moment would be here...
http://game-science.com/news/001366.php
DS/L 8.4M vs PSP 3.4M
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Freyr on June 04, 2006, 05:15:19 AM
Now with 37 percent  more crunchy goodness.
http://freyrvanir.googlepages.com/japansales2.html
http://freyrvanir.googlepages.com/japansales2.ods
http://freyrvanir.googlepages.com/japansales2.xls

Got Jan 04-May 06 minus 3 weeks in july 04 which I could not find data for. If you see any errors please give a shout.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 04, 2006, 04:47:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
This forum needs a people who use sarcasm filter.

It. is. no. longer. funny.


sarcasm is always funny when it's done right.  just saying something and saying it's sarcastic is one thing, saying something and it being sarcastic is another.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 04, 2006, 05:13:08 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
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Originally posted by: Artimus
This forum needs a people who use sarcasm filter.

It. is. no. longer. funny.


sarcasm is always funny when it's done right.  just saying something and saying it's sarcastic is one thing, saying something and it being sarcastic is another.


Sarcasm is serious business.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 04, 2006, 06:56:48 PM
All this talk has nothing to do with DS's failure to capture the Japanese market.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 04, 2006, 06:57:58 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
This forum needs a people who use sarcasm filter.

It. is. no. longer. funny.


sarcasm is always funny when it's done right.  just saying something and saying it's sarcastic is one thing, saying something and it being sarcastic is another.


You're confusing sarcasm with irony.

Sarcasm's entire purpose is negative, to attack, to hurt. The original intent of Mario's posts was to attack the morons who claimed success or doom based on one number. The point is long proven and now people are just doing it without a reason.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on June 05, 2006, 11:21:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
The point is long proven and now people are just doing it without a reason.


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 05, 2006, 12:37:48 PM
All this talk has nothing to do with DS's failure to capture the Japanese market.

Anymore numbers that illustrate DS's ailing performance on life support?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2006, 07:15:30 PM
Media Create Sales: May 29th - June 4th
Source


01 NDS New Super Mario Bros - 334208 / 1233726
02 NDS Brain Age 2 - 56470 / 2423898
03 NDS Brain Age - 40211 / 2322970
04 NDS Metroid Prime hunters - 32467 / 32467
05 PS2 Winning Eleven 10 - 31600 / 726527
06 NDS Tetris DS - 29209 / 574875
07 NDS Animal Crossing - 28552 / 2774649
08 NDS English Training - 25997 / 1118493
09 PS2 Powerful Major League - 20852/ 176408
10 PSP DQ & FF in Itadaki Street Portable - 15640 / 63982

11 NDS Mario Kart DS
12 NDS Pokemon Ranger
13 PSP Brain Trainer Portable 2 (SEGA)
14 PS2 World Football Climax
15 NDS Touch Panic
16 PS2 .hack//G.U. Vol.1
17 PS2 Kimi Kiss
18 NDS Big Brain Academy
19 GBA MOTHER 3
20 NDS Kanji DS Dictionary

21 PSP Monster Hunter Portable
22 PS2 Dragon Quest Shonen Yangus & Fushigi no Dungeon
23 PS2 Final Fantasy 12
24 NDS Puzzle Series Vol.3 SUDOKU
25 NGC Powerful Major League
26 PSP Magnacarta Portable
27 NDS Point Blank DS
28 NDS ?????? (Kanji no ????)
29 NDS Tamagotchi DS
30 NDS Seiken Densetsu DS CHILDREN of MANA

DS only captured 17 of the top 30 games in Japan? [insert negative sarcastic commentary here]  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 07, 2006, 07:17:32 PM
Did MP: H just get released in japan? 34 thousand does seem low.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2006, 07:26:13 PM
well considering that the sold this week #'s are exactly the same as the total sold #'s, my guess would be YES, yes it did just get released.
And 32.5 thousand isn't that bad considering 1st person shooter games doen't really sell well in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 07, 2006, 07:31:42 PM
If you saw just how poorly the Prime games have sold in Japan, you'd be surprised Hunters sold so much!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 07, 2006, 11:17:24 PM
Metroid doesn't sell in Japan, FPS doesn't sell in Japan, I suppose the only reason they're releasing it there at all is because they don't want to leave the japanese market out (whereas they'd happily shaft Europe if we didn't buy Metroid. Give us the other Kururin titles goddamnit!).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on June 08, 2006, 02:21:14 AM
I dont have any sales figures but I believe the DS is selling well in Australia, seen quite a few people with them and have nevewr seen anyone with a PSP.

Anyone have official Australian sales figures?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 08, 2006, 04:44:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
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Originally posted by: Artimus
This forum needs a people who use sarcasm filter.

It. is. no. longer. funny.


sarcasm is always funny when it's done right.  just saying something and saying it's sarcastic is one thing, saying something and it being sarcastic is another.


You're confusing sarcasm with irony.


No, I'm not.  I wasn't making a statement about sarcasm and how it is used here, I was making a comment on the humor of sarcasm in general and how sarcasm can be genuinely funny without the need to point out that it's funny.  If it's funny, then it needs no introduction.  people will see that it is funny, or humorous all on their own.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 08, 2006, 06:59:45 AM
People are confusing this thread with college lit class.

NewSMB passed a million in two weeks, awesome!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 08, 2006, 08:15:59 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
NewSMB passed a million in two weeks, awesome!
And I'm sure it will pass 1.5 mil in 3 weeks and 2 mil in 5 to go on to be the biggest and fastest selling Mario game of all time

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on June 08, 2006, 09:32:13 AM
So how many people own a DS in Japan?

How long do you think it'll take for NSMB to reach 50% of that number? (It's going to happen, it's just a matter of when)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 08, 2006, 10:02:13 AM
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13 PSP Brain Trainer Portable 2 (SEGA)
Wait, they made a sequal?  When did that happen?  I didn't know the first one sold well.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 08, 2006, 01:18:53 PM
It did.. for a PSP game. Probably bought by all the PSP owners who want a DS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 08, 2006, 05:23:04 PM
May NPD US software & hardware sales numbers
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PS2 - 232,000
360 - 221,000
GBA - 158,000 (approx)
NDS - 147,000 (approx)
GCN - 33,000
XBX - 26,000
DS tanking?  People just holding out for the DS Lite?  You be the judge.

How the Hell is GBA still selling so damn much.  I wish we knew it if were the SP or the Micro.

GameCube outsold Xbox.  W00t.
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Rank - Title - Publisher
1. NDS - New Super Mario Bros. - Nintendo
2. PS2 - Kingdom Hearts II - Square Enix
3. 360 - Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter - Ubisoft
4. 360 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - Take 2 Interactive
5. PS2 - Guitar Hero Bundle - Activision
6. 360 - Fight Night Round 3 - Electronic Arts
7. PS2 - MLB 06: The Show - Sony
8. 360 - Battlefield 2: Modern Combat - Electronic Arts
9. 360 - Major League Baseball 2K6 - Take 2 Interactive
10. 360 - X-Men: The Official Game - Activision
11. PS2 - X-Men: The Official Game - Activision
12. PS2 - Over the Hedge - Activision
13. 360 - Call of Duty 2 - Activision
14. PS2 - God of War - Sony
15. NDS - Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes A Day - Nintendo
16. PS2 - The Godfather - Electronic Arts
17. PS2 - Tomb Raider: Legend - Eidos
18. 360 - Tomb Raider: Legend - Eidos
19. PS2 - Major League Baseball 2K6 - Take 2 Interactive
20. PS2 - Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War - Namco
21. PS2 - 2006 FIFA World Cup - Electronic Arts
22. PS2 - NBA Ballers: Phenom - Midway
23. GCN - Over the Hedge - Activision
24. 360 - 2006 FIFA World Cup - Electronic Arts
25. 360 - Table Tennis - Take 2 Interactive
Ranked by dollars, not units.  Very impressive that NSMB beat out all those $50 and $60 games.  Even more impressive that Brain Training (a non-game priced at a mere $20) ranked so high.  LOL at Over the Hedge.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2006, 05:47:08 PM
Look at that.  This 3rd pillar business is getting them NOWHERE, especially if they can't even top their 2ND PILLAR.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 08, 2006, 06:40:38 PM
Where are the PSP numbers? Is Sony still hiding them? I thought that in the US the PSP was doing well or at least holding its ground, as compaired to Japan numbers....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 08, 2006, 08:10:03 PM
New Japanese Total Sales Chart

Famitsu's 5/22 - 5/28 Japanese chart

and Media-Create #'s for last week

DSL 135,614
PSP 24,595
PS2 18,513
GBASP 4,364
GBM 1,270
Xbox360 1,245
DS 1,159
GC 798
Xbox 43
GBA 30  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on June 08, 2006, 08:11:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Look at that.  This 3rd pillar business is getting them NOWHERE, especially if they can't even top their 2ND PILLAR.



Not true, globaly the DS the DS is doing very well so there 3rd pillar strategy is working fine.

If anything MS$ should be more concerned if it cant even beat the PS2 being the only next gen console currently released, probably due to its high price point and  poor reliability, and they have already effectively lost the Japanese market again.


 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 08, 2006, 08:15:48 PM
Where does that leave PS3 with it's even higher pricepoint and even poorer reliability? I can't wait to see the PS2 outsell the PS3 this holiday.

BTW it's been confirmed that PSP outsold DS this month, again. It sold more than GBA is all we know. NPD are so freaking retarded with their numbers, treating them like it's some "exclusive club". They can rot and die, we need a better sales tracker to step up.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on June 08, 2006, 08:23:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
BTW it's been confirmed that PSP outsold DS this month, again.


But how long will it be before devs slow down on making PSP software (Considering the overall global lead by DS.), particuarly Japanese devs? What effect will that have on US PSP sales?


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 08, 2006, 08:42:16 PM
Honestly, probably none. PSP owners don't really seem too interested in games of any form.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on June 08, 2006, 10:10:35 PM
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Originally posted by: MarioBTW it's been confirmed that PSP outsold DS this month, again. It sold more than GBA is all we know. NPD are so freaking retarded with their numbers, treating them like it's some "exclusive club". They can rot and die, we need a better sales tracker to step up.


The next few months are more important, we'll see what the DS lite's effects on NA sales will be and as the GBA line slowly gets phased out we'll see if the sales start to shift towards the DS.


Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 08, 2006, 11:32:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Honestly, probably none. PSP owners don't really seem too interested in games of any form.


That is why I think it is dumb to compare PSP sales to DS sales in the U.S. It seems pretty obvious people are buying a PSP for either the UMD movies or for a glorified MP3 player.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on June 08, 2006, 11:38:29 PM
...well, regardless of what people are doing with them, at least Sony is making money by selling all those PSPs.

...Oh, wait.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 09, 2006, 05:38:09 AM
How can you count sales data that doesn't include WalMart or online?

I mean, probably half of the DS sales come from thsoe two places.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 09, 2006, 06:08:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Where does that leave PS3 with it's even higher pricepoint and even poorer reliability? I can't wait to see the PS2 outsell the PS3 this holiday.

BTW it's been confirmed that PSP outsold DS this month, again. It sold more than GBA is all we know. NPD are so freaking retarded with their numbers, treating them like it's some "exclusive club". They can rot and die, we need a better sales tracker to step up.



I'm not too worried about the PSP selling more than the old school DS. I mean, what is probably happening is people are waiting on buying a DS until the lite comes out.

If the PSP continues selling more than the DS lite when it comes out THEN it is time to start worrying.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 09, 2006, 06:09:20 AM
Btw, NSMB was the best selling game of May. Money wise. At half the price of console games. In 3 weeks.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 09, 2006, 09:13:37 AM
True; but you have to remember the only other new games to make the list were X-Men, Over the Hedge and Table Tennis.  I don't mean to disregard NSMB's victory, but the competition wasn't exactly fierce last month.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: TrueNerd on June 09, 2006, 11:36:47 AM
I just don't understand why people are still buying PSPs. What does the system offer them that the $120 cheaper PS2 doesn't, other then portability? Apparently, I have grossly underestimated the allure of watered down PS2 games on the go.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 09, 2006, 12:07:13 PM
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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
I just don't understand why people are still buying PSPs. What does the system offer them that the $120 cheaper PS2 doesn't, other then portability? Apparently, I have grossly underestimated the allure of watered down PS2 games on the go.



It is purty looking and you can be "cool" if you own one even if you buy no games for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2006, 12:23:51 PM
GAH, it's pager craze all over again.  Stupid internet generation!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on June 09, 2006, 07:51:00 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
True; but you have to remember the only other new games to make the list were X-Men, Over the Hedge and Table Tennis.  I don't mean to disregard NSMB's victory, but the competition wasn't exactly fierce last month.

That's rockstar's tabble tennis game, right? I wouldn't have been surprised if it outsold NSMB, personally....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on June 09, 2006, 08:31:14 PM
Sorry if I'm the only one who doesn't see the enjoyment factor of a table tennis game. The only reason it's selling like this is because it's made by Rockstar.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 10, 2006, 06:45:11 AM
If it was made by Nintendo we'd be like OMG ITS TEH GENIUS.

LOLZ
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 10, 2006, 09:04:08 AM
We are "OMG ITS TEH GENIUS." Seen Wii Tennis and the ping pong demo?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 12, 2006, 12:26:46 PM
If Nintendo made it it would be teh genius because it'd have Mario instead of boring ordinary people and the ball would be, like, a 40 foot snake.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chode2234 on June 13, 2006, 05:46:26 PM
Any DS lite sales numbers yet?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 13, 2006, 06:22:27 PM
Heh.. you're going to have to wait a while for those..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on June 14, 2006, 12:13:18 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Heh.. you're going to have to wait a while for those..


The wait is over...

Separately, Nintendo said it sold 136,500 of its new DS Lite players in the United States on Sunday and Monday. The game player weighs less than the DS and has a brighter screen. A Nintendo spokesman said DS Lite sales appear to be on pace with those from the launch of the DS, which sold 500,000 units in the first 10 days after its U.S. debut in November 2004.

Source
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 14, 2006, 12:30:36 PM
Wow, great news - I want to compare Nintendo's official numbers to the NPD ones..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2006, 06:15:25 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Wow, great news - I want to compare Nintendo's official numbers to the NPD ones..
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Heh.. you're going to have to wait a while for those..


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2006, 06:58:13 PM
Media-Create June 5th - 11th

1. DS New Super Mario Bros. - 244,882 / 1,478,608
2. PS2 Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislot Vol.5 - 100,967 / NEW
3. DS Brain Age 2 - 52,876 / 2,476,775
4. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 - 34,880 / 761,407
5. DS Brain Age - 34,760 / 2,357,730
6. DS Animal Crossing - 25,355 / 2,800,004
7. DS English Training - 23,130 / 1,141,623
8. DS Tetris DS - 21,710 / 596,585
9. DS Mario Kart DS - 11,880 / 1,424,882
10. DS Pokemon Ranger - 11,646 / 574,231
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11. PSP Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Yoshimune Portable
12. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Major League
13. NDS Metroid Prime: Hunters - 9,133 / 41,580
14. PSP Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable 8,547 / 72,556
15. PSP Brain Trainer Portable
16. PS2 .hack//G.U. Vol.1
17. NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku
18. NDS Touch Panic
19. NDS Puzzle Series Vol. 3: Sudoku - 4,823
20. NDS Kanji Easy Dictionary
21. NDS Metal Saga: Hagane no Kisetsu
22. PSP Monster Hunter Portable
23. NDS Right Brain Training: Point Blank Trainer
24. GBA Mother 3
25. NDS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi
26. PSP Magna Carta Portable
27. PS2 Kimikiss
28. NDS Seiken Densetsu Children of Mana
29. NDS Daredemo Asobi Taizen
30. PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (PS2 The Best)

Unconfirmed Hadware #'s:

DSL - 132,027
PSP - 21,656
PS2 - 18,981
GBASP - 4,116
GBM - 1,654
DS - 1,371
Xbox360 - 1,100
GC - 961  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 14, 2006, 07:32:01 PM
I got owned
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 15, 2006, 10:31:14 AM
18 of 30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 15, 2006, 10:40:25 AM
5 PSP Games in the top 30! Nintendo is failing!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: willie1234 on June 15, 2006, 03:51:32 PM
wonder how much #15 sold.  they surely must have been working on that "years" before nintendo
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 15, 2006, 05:10:18 PM
So it's going to take what ... 3 - 4 weeks sell 2 million copies of NSMB? Comon... stick a fork in it already. The DS(lite) is dead.

Speaking of which... No xbox numbers? Or ... no xbox sales... ?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2006, 06:26:24 PM
I think they stopped tracking Xbox and GBA sales in japan, the #'s were just too low to bother with it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 15, 2006, 06:59:55 PM
about damn time.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on June 15, 2006, 08:09:16 PM
Nope!

DSL 132,027
PSP 21,656
PS2 18,981
GBASP 4,116
GBM 1,654
DS 1,371
Xbox360 1,100
GC 961
GBA 36
Xbox 20

I suspect MS tried to cover up the Xbox numbers this week because of the GBA defeat, but the numbers got out eventually. Quite a massive leap for the Xbox this week actually, more than DOUBLING up from 8 last week. GBA had better watch out, if Xbox continues growing at the same rate and overtakes GBA we wont hear the end of it from Microsoft!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on June 15, 2006, 08:21:02 PM
360 outselling the GC? Ouch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2006, 08:27:16 PM
Why would you waste money on a GC now when you can have a Wii in 4 months and at maybe a littel more than double the price and still play all the GC games?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on June 15, 2006, 08:39:09 PM
I dunno....why would you own an Xbox 360 when you could not own one instead?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 15, 2006, 09:14:41 PM
the japanese have managed to tap into the 360 as a source of geothermal power.  WASHING MACHINES AND RICE COOKERS, INFINITE POWAAAAAAA
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 15, 2006, 10:43:55 PM
Hm... lets see if this works.... this post should take up the last post on this page. So that my next post is the very first post on page 100 of the thread. yaya.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 15, 2006, 10:45:24 PM
page 100 yaye!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on June 15, 2006, 10:56:47 PM
I say we take this time to remember Noble Feather, a  poster who came to PGC a long time ago and lied to us about the Nintendo Revolution having HD-DVD support.


...Yay Noble Feather!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on June 15, 2006, 11:50:47 PM
I wish he'd come back. He'd be a great mafia player.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 16, 2006, 12:27:49 AM
VOTE Noble~Feather
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 16, 2006, 02:26:16 AM
I thought he said BRD support?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on June 16, 2006, 05:39:11 AM
only page 67 for me
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on June 16, 2006, 05:43:16 AM
Page 20 here...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on June 16, 2006, 08:13:23 AM
Page 80 here (Alright, topic derailed! ...and how many posts do you see per page UncleBob O_O)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 16, 2006, 08:29:16 AM
31 Flavors made the assumption that everyone here is on 20 post per page


I'm gonna make some guesses off the top of my head;
Arbok I'm gonna guess and say that you are on 25 post per page
and Uncle Bob has it set at around 75 post per page
Cmoney that is too much math for my head to guess at accurately right now(45?)  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on June 16, 2006, 08:32:11 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
page 100 yaye!
at least post something more interesting

maybe I'll change the amount of posts per page....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 16, 2006, 10:30:57 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
page 100 yaye!
at least post something more interesting

maybe I'll change the amount of posts per page....
Feh

So... whats been big over the past (debateable, i guess) 100 pages? I mean Nintendo has been "Floping" every week sure, but any one remember any memorable topics? Or for that matter... WANT to remember past topics
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on June 16, 2006, 06:50:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
Page 80 here (Alright, topic derailed! ...and how many posts do you see per page UncleBob O_O)


100.  I always set mine to max on any forum.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on June 17, 2006, 04:20:10 AM
DS leads Australian handheld sales




Source
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on June 17, 2006, 09:03:11 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
31 Flavors made the assumption that everyone here is on 20 post per page


I'm gonna make some guesses off the top of my head;
Arbok I'm gonna guess and say that you are on 25 post per page
and Uncle Bob has it set at around 75 post per page
Cmoney that is too much math for my head to guess at accurately right now(45?)


More like 30 posts per page for Cmoney... I have it set to the same thing.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on June 17, 2006, 06:33:51 PM
Requiem and I have good taste.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on June 20, 2006, 12:40:25 AM
Finally Nintendo advertise in Australia.

Nintendo are sponsoring the ratings  leading quiz show programme in Australia in peak hour, heaps of brain training adds.

Also seen Brain adds during Peak news time.

The adds go for about 15-20 seconds, are proffesional and NON tiku tiku tiku! .

So DS sales here should improve.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on June 20, 2006, 05:30:46 AM
Ya, I don't know if this is the correct thread for it, but DSL's have been sold out basically everywhere in NYC. I was able to get one (get this) at the Virgin Megastore in Union Square. I didn't even know they sold games, and evidently, neither did most people: there were literally ROWS of unsold Brain Age, New SMB, Big Brain, and Mario Kart DS. It was pretty amazing,  considering the Brain Age is sold out everywhere I looked (I snagged a copy the day before in NJ), as is DSL hardware.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 20, 2006, 09:52:49 AM
I was able to get one (get this) at the Virgin Megastore in Union Square. I didn't even know they sold games

Of course Virgin Megastores sell games. I got my copy of Duke Nukem Advance from a Megastore in France.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chzn8r on June 20, 2006, 10:11:25 AM
Virgin Megastore here in Chicago has games but not a particularly good selection. Their CD selection isn't even that thrilling anymore, mostly because of the prices on all the good stuff.

So... *cheers on DS*
How long do you think until New Super Mario Bros catches Animal Crossing? It'll probably need a good holiday buying season but it's gonna sell strong all year for sure. I know it'll break 2 million but then again, by that time AC:WW will be above 3 million, which is just sickeningly large for Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 20, 2006, 12:35:23 PM
Thanks to Aussiedude, those numbers are interesting.  So Europe is the only territory that I don't think we have some sort of numbers for now.

Good to see DS is ruling all over the place.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 20, 2006, 06:30:37 PM
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Thanks to Aussiedude, those numbers are interesting. So Europe is the only territory that I don't think we have some sort of numbers for now.
I think we have some Spanish and French numbers showing the success of the DS with Nintendogs..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 20, 2006, 08:22:19 PM
Bestbuy.com sales charts: June 11-17

1. New Super Mario Bros.
2. Brain Age
3. Big Brain Acamedy
4. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
5. 2006 FIFA World Cup (PS2)
6. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (360)
7. Mario Kart DS
8. Hitman: Blood Money (360)
9. Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (PS2)
10. 2006 FIFA World Cup (360)

DS has the TOP 4 and 5 of the TOP 10, not bad, not bad at all.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on June 20, 2006, 11:19:45 PM
Dawn of Sorrow? I thought that had gone out of print or something?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 21, 2006, 08:19:37 AM
However much the DS hardware sales are disappointing in North America, those are great software numbers. Someone should have told Sony that taking the focus off gaming on the PSP would lead to this - I wonder what the total software sold on the DS vs PSP would be.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 21, 2006, 09:31:30 AM
Wow, looks like the Lite really is boosting DS in North America.  Awesome.  Everything is in line now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 21, 2006, 03:48:55 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
However much the DS hardware sales are disappointing in North America [...]
Ok, maybe i'm just a happy go lucky Nintendo optimist, but according to vudu's May NPD numbers the DS sold 147,000 units. What's disapointing about moving close to 150,000 units in a month? Sony isn't really doing all that much better, i'd think they'd let their numbers out otherwise....
Quote

those are great software numbers. Someone should have told Sony that taking the focus off gaming on the PSP would lead to this - I wonder what the total software sold on the DS vs PSP would be.
Heh... I'd like to know as well. US as well as Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 21, 2006, 08:38:40 PM
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Ok, maybe i'm just a happy go lucky Nintendo optimist, but according to vudu's May NPD numbers the DS sold 147,000 units. What's disapointing about moving close to 150,000 units in a month? Sony isn't really doing all that much better, i'd think they'd let their numbers out otherwise....
The disappointing thing is that the PSP is outselling it hardware-wise. Regardless of the fact that the tie-in ratio for the PSP is dismal, it still is disappointing that it's outselling the DS here. I posted this a while back..

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Seriously, I can't fathom it. It's just dumbfounding. Nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA to so many people in North America has been successfully translated to the DS, and in some cases with even better results. Castlevania. Advance Wars. Sonic. Kirby. Mario Kart (not a port). Mario & Luigi. Wario Ware. All of these have arguably better versions on the DS, and they were integral to the success of the GBA. Combine these with some awesome new IPs or new handheld iterations, and the DS's library is nothing if not healthy. The only two big franchises left are Pokemon and Metroid (both coming sooner or later). And please don't say anything about new "traditional" IPs - when Madden is annually on top of the North American charts, that clearly isn't the case.

So why on earth is the DS selling so badly over here? After the launch, I knew Kirby and Meteos wouldn't be enough to boost sales significantly. But I was confident that when autumn and Christmas came, the great new titles would push the DS on top once and for all in a big way. I mean, come on, that lineup from September to December was just brilliant. When this didn't happen, I was shocked, but I waited for Metroid Hunters; great graphics, online, FPS, handheld? Bingo! Or was it? We don't know the actual sales numbers, and NPD is inaccurate as usual, but all signs point to it horribly underperforming. And worse, it didn't sell much hardware.

There are some bright spots though; namely the DS Lite, New Super Mario Bros, and to a lesser extent, Brain Training. If Peach sold so well (relatively), then NSMB should be a hit. But all bets are off now; from what we've seen, anything's possible. I will say, though, that I will give up on this market if Mario doesn't help the DS.
Well, looks like the situation is improving, but I'll wait for the coming months to decide. I just know that the DS should be outselling the PSP and the GBA by a wide margin, and it wasn't. NPDs are not 100% indicative of the actual figures, but they're not way off either. Enough so that we can actually use them and get a feel for the sales. So, even though the DS library is in every way superior to the PSP one, it is still not a runaway succcess here, which it should be. It was confirmed that last month the PSP outsold the DS again in terms of hardware, albeit by a slim margin. This has been happening since last year..

And yeah, Sony brought that problem on themselves. It's all about the software tie-in ratio. And to say that the PSP's tie-in ratio is horrendous is an understatement. It stems from the fact that the PSP takes the focus off gaming. It's also a multimedia player, and games just aren't as important. With all the functions it has, the software sales are bound to be much, much lower. The DS, on the other hand, focuses almost purely on games. It's what Nintendo has always done; make a system for games and nothing else. This has many advantages, not the least of which protecting the tie-in ratio. That's one thing the DS has going for it over the PSP; its software sales are significantly higher than those of the PSP. And developers notice this too; who cares if the userbase is high when no one buys games?

Yeah, that post was far too long  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2006, 08:49:21 PM
Media Create Sales: 12 - 18 June

1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 200,037 / 1,678,646
2. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 60,463 / 2,537,238
3. (PS2, Konami) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 - 52,124 / 813,531
4. (DS, Bandai Namco) Digimon Story - 41,135 / new
5. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 40,878 / 2,398,608
6. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 30,206 / 2,830,211
7. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 26,723 / 1,168,346
8. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 23,762 / 620,348
9. (PS2, D3) Pachislot Vol. 5 Shinseiki - 23,587 / 124,554
10. (PSP, SCE) Doko Demo Issho Let's Gakkou! - 16,852 / new
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11. Metal Saga DS - 16,184
12. Mario Kart DS
13. Pokemon Ranger
14. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney BEST PRICE (DS) - 10,747
15. Metroid Prime Hunters - 9,973
16. Zoids Dash (DS) - 6,655
17. Daito Giken Pachislot (PSP)
18. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Major League (PS2)
19. DQ and FF in Itadaki Street Portable (PSP)
20. Big Brain Academy
21. Puzzle Series Vol. 3 SUDOKU (DS)
22. Nouryoku Trainer Portable 2 (PSP)
23. Kaito Rousseau (DS) - 4,815
24. Kanji Sonomama DS Rakubiki Jiten
25. World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 UE (PSP The Best)
26. Monster Hunter Portable
27. Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi
28. Final Fantasy XII
29. .hack//G.U. Vol 1
30. Dare Demo Asobi Taizen

Unconfirmed Hardware #'s

DSL - 141,487
PSP - 24,653
DS - 22,748
PS2 - 20,737
GBASP - 4,642
Xbox360 - 1,407

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on June 21, 2006, 08:53:49 PM
19 out of 30?!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 21, 2006, 11:27:57 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold

The disappointing thing is that the PSP is outselling it hardware-wise. Regardless of the fact that the tie-in ratio for the PSP is dismal, it still is disappointing that it's outselling the DS here. I posted this a while back..
Well, if it is so disappointing / despressing to see that the DS number exclusivly is not crushing the PSP number... how about thinking of it this way....

Nintendo *is* taking the PSP out 2:1 no joke. GBA and DS together sell 300k+ units. So, handheld video consumers know what they want. They want Nintendo stuff. They just still like GBA stuff here in America. And I don't think you should be so quick to want to kill off the GBA. Yes, the Nintendo DS is quite a smart purchase. But still, if Bobby and Billy or Howard and Steve want to do GBA multi-player games, DS won't work. Even still GBA are $50 less expensive. So if they only want to play GBA games, the GBA is still cheaper.

Once they are do come off the GBA, guess what they will buy? It won't be a PSP that's for sure.
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Yeah, that post was far too long
Sorry, I didn't comment on the rest of it :P I did read it though!

 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chzn8r on June 22, 2006, 02:46:00 AM
DS must not be on shortages anymore, the original model just sprung back up in sales.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 22, 2006, 10:34:59 AM
Yeah, I noticed that too.  It's like, the most interesting thing in those numbers.  That and a PSP game took 10th place.  Looks like Nintendo's doomed, guys.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 22, 2006, 10:51:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
19 out of 30?!


But only 4 or 5 of those are from 3rd parties?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Magik on June 23, 2006, 07:28:49 AM
The PSP is selling better than the DS in North America simply because of the brand.  The majority of people who are buying it simply because it has the 'PlayStation' brand on it.  The 'PlayStation' brand in North America is that damn strong coupled with the aggressive and very effective marketing.

There's also a small minority that is buying the PSP because of its other functions such as playing videos through UMDs or Memory sticks, and even for music.

Before the DS Lite, the PSP had the advantage of having a piece of hardware that looked sleek and sexy compared to the clunky boring original DS look.  The 'look' also contributed to the PSP's popularity but that advantage is now cancelled out.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 23, 2006, 09:50:36 AM
GamesIndustry.biz
Original DS sells 4.5 million in Europe

4.5 million Europe (pre DS Lite)
4.6 million (US NPD as of May 06)
8.9 million Japan (Media Create as of June 18th 06)

By the end of June DS sales will be over 19 million worldwide.

and Unconfirmed:
Australia = 227,369 as of June 4 (also pre-DS Lite)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on June 23, 2006, 11:01:43 AM
how many PSPs worldwide? 15-16 mill?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 23, 2006, 11:42:05 AM
Shipped.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 23, 2006, 12:01:23 PM
I'm guessing the actual sales for PSP are somewhere in the 14 million range.  Totally uneducated guess, it just seems like having around 3 million in stock would be about right.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on June 23, 2006, 12:10:50 PM
Do third parties know the actual PSP sales numbers?  If I was the head of a third party publisher and I asked Sony for sales figures and they gave me shipped figures I'd send them a reply asking for USEFUL data.  It's one thing to try to fool gamers and the media for marketing purposes.  But the userbase number is important information for third parties trying to make money off of a videogame system.  Or so I imagine anyway.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 23, 2006, 12:14:47 PM
I can't understand why anyone is still making games for the PSP: the tie in ratio is horrible and we already have multiple cases of companies porting their games off of the console to recoup losses because they sold so poorly.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chzn8r on June 23, 2006, 01:19:05 PM
Are you people crazy? PSP can't even be near that high with how big the gap in sales there is between it and the DS in Europe and (especially) Japan. Wasn't the worldwide total as of the holidays like 12 million to 6.5 million (DS and PSP respectively)?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 23, 2006, 02:58:51 PM
I'd say the PSP is at 11 or 12 million sold..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem of Darcness on June 23, 2006, 05:39:16 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
I'd say the PSP is at 11 or 12 million sold..


And I'd say your are insane. The DS and PSP are only neck and neck in the US. The PSP is getting slaughtered by DS in Japan and it has a commanding lead in Europe. The PSP has sold 9 million worldwide at best.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 23, 2006, 05:45:00 PM
The pathetic, tucked-away, SHRINKING UMD section at Walmart is all I need to see.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 23, 2006, 06:05:31 PM
yea... UMD movies... wow, who's going to pay to clean that mess up?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 23, 2006, 08:57:52 PM
If I was the head of a third party publisher and I asked Sony for sales figures and they gave me shipped figures I'd send them a reply asking for USEFUL data.

And Sony would tell you to go elsewhere because they are SONY and they don't need your games because the Playstation sells without games!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 23, 2006, 11:01:51 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
If I was the head of a third party publisher and I asked Sony for sales figures and they gave me shipped figures I'd send them a reply asking for USEFUL data.

And Sony would tell you to go elsewhere because they are SONY and they don't need your games because the Playstation sells without games!


Hehe, even when they probaly LOSE money on each system sold. But hey it still is a system sold .
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on June 25, 2006, 02:49:47 PM
And the thing is, when I went to buy my DS Lite at Virgin the other day (cuz Best Buy and Circuit City were sold out, and I don't buy games from vg outlets, and the TRU closed a year ago), the UMD movie section was double the size of the DS game section; no joke. The Sony image is still very powerful, methinks.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2006, 02:56:25 PM
Were the UMD movies NEW releases? Cause they could just be trying to push out old inventory.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 25, 2006, 05:47:37 PM
As far as I can tell in the Bay Area and Sacramento area, the only Virgin store is in San Francisco.  Not a great retail "chain" for market representation.

Wal-Mart howevar...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on June 25, 2006, 06:05:16 PM
Actually, there should be a Virgin store next the The Arden Mall.  Maybe it has closed down already?  I haven't been tere for a while.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 25, 2006, 06:13:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
As far as I can tell in the Bay Area and Sacramento area, the only Virgin store is in San Francisco.  Not a great retail "chain" for market representation.

Wal-Mart howevar...


Yeah, Wally World is the best example to look at here and they announced that they were tossing/liquidating all of their UMD movie section recently because the sales were just so damn poor.

Every wal-mart I go to always has the UMD movies packed to the very edge of the shelf. The DS games are clearly experiencing sales because I can see that the shelves need to be restocked in some cases. UMD movies have ALWAYS been packed to the brim, indicating that either the wal-mart clerks take extra care to stock the UMD section or that the UMD movies aren't selling at all.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on June 25, 2006, 09:24:05 PM
My local Walmart here in Georgia has liquidated them wholesale.  I cannot find UMD movies in the section that they were in last (behind the Latin albums in the far end) nor can I find any UMDs elsewhere in the store.  They are gone.  Furthermore, the PSP GAMES are in some sort of side shelf, away from the regular games display.  DS games are next to GBA games, and are experiencing the brisk sales Smash Brother describes.  some gone, some games with only one copy left.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 25, 2006, 10:05:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
My local Walmart here in Georgia has liquidated them wholesale.  I cannot find UMD movies in the section that they were in last (behind the Latin albums in the far end) nor can I find any UMDs elsewhere in the store.  They are gone.  Furthermore, the PSP GAMES are in some sort of side shelf, away from the regular games display.  DS games are next to GBA games, and are experiencing the brisk sales Smash Brother describes.  some gone, some games with only one copy left.


Just imagine what DS sales (both games and systems) would be like if it wasn't crammed in the corner at most stores, while PSP is out in the open with alot of retail space.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on June 26, 2006, 03:35:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Myxtika1 Azn
Actually, there should be a Virgin store next the The Arden Mall.  Maybe it has closed down already?  I haven't been tere for a while.


Yeah they closed that store down about a year ago.  It's still just empty space though I think they may have started construction on something there now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 26, 2006, 11:49:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Originally posted by: Requiem
19 out of 30?!


But only 4 or 5 of those are from 3rd parties?


Capcom could be raking in the bucks if they got off their collective arses and pumped out Phoenix Wright sequels every 6-9 months like they SHOULD BE! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHH!

Also, Sprung should get a Japan release...heheheheheheeheeheeheehaaahaaHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2006, 09:01:16 AM
For all the those curious about gaming sales, here is a *work in progress* that will eventually cover everything from NES to PS3 hardware and software

VGCharts.org

edit: errors are to be found and hopefully to be fixed.
#'s are a collaboration of information from the GAF informed and will probably end-up being the most accumulated mass of #'s that we will have access to publicly in simplified form.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 28, 2006, 10:38:10 AM
Hmm, on that site it says the total PSP hardware sold worldwide is 17 million whereas the DS is 16.93 million, which is way off.. maybe they use Sony's "shipped" numbers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 28, 2006, 11:46:34 AM
Someone at that site left the "Auto Fail" box checked.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on June 28, 2006, 12:11:40 PM
Wait, wait wait. I don't even think the PSP had shipped 17 million units by dec 2005.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on June 28, 2006, 12:39:15 PM
Now that's interesting.  Nintendo Pretty much had May in that.  The other list you look at at the top you see a good amount of Sony and the occacional XBox game and some Nintendo.  Before you get half way through you start seeing nothing but Nintendo.  Dang.  No wonder there profitable.  That's the American chart too.

Dang.  According to the VGCharts.org Pokemon Red/Blue/Green sold 10,224,500 in Japan.  Now lets say everyone bought all three so individually thats 3,408,166 copies sold in Japan alone per version.  That puts it just below Super Mario World and above Final Fantasy VII.  
Also after splitting all those up it reveals that Tetris for the GB at    4,221,500 is the best selling game in Japan of all time.  If you think that's inflated just consider that Super Mario Land is right under it.  That's not what I expected.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 28, 2006, 04:53:08 PM
It doesn't count NES games.. Super Mario Bros would probably be the best selling game of all time, followed by Super Mario Bros 3. After all, SMB is the highest selling game ever, and SMB3 is the highest selling standalone game ever (not bundled).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2006, 07:00:39 PM
SMB wasn't actually sold to most people, it was included for free for with the NES. I'm sure if you wanted to count the most owned gamed ever that would definately be SMB on NES, but as far as sold, I'm not so sure.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 28, 2006, 07:05:43 PM
Media Create Numbers June 19-25

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1. Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2) - 281,510
2. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS) - 170,168 (1,848,813)
3. Brain Age 2 (NDS) - 57,752 (2,594,989)
4. Winning Eleven 10 (PS2) - 49,926 (863,457)
5. Brain Age (NDS) - 38,766 (2,437,374)
6. King of Fighters XI (PS2) - 28,015
7. Animal Crossing WW (NDS) - 27,780 (2,857,990)
8. English Training (NDS) - 24,978 (1,193,324)
9. Sony Computer Science Kenkyuusho Kenmogi Kenichirou Hakase Kanshuu - Nou ni Kaikan: Aha Taiken (PSP) - 23,548
10. Digimon Story - 21,520 (62,655)


But..but..what is this?

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1. Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2) - 281,510


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2006, 07:18:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Media Create Numbers June 19-25

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1. Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2) - 281,510
2. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS) - 170,168 (1,848,813)
3. Brain Age 2 (NDS) - 57,752 (2,594,989)
4. Winning Eleven 10 (PS2) - 49,926 (863,457)
5. Brain Age (NDS) - 38,766 (2,437,374)
6. King of Fighters XI (PS2) - 28,015
7. Animal Crossing WW (NDS) - 27,780 (2,857,990)
8. English Training (NDS) - 24,978 (1,193,324)
9. Sony Computer Science Kenkyuusho Kenmogi Kenichirou Hakase Kanshuu - Nou ni Kaikan: Aha Taiken (PSP) - 23,548
10. Digimon Story - 21,520 (62,655)
11 NDS Tetris DS (Nintendo) - 20,412 (640,760)
12 PS2 Galaxy Angel II (Broccoli) - 18,902
13 NDS Magical Vacation: 5-tsu no Hoshi ga Narabu toki (Nintendo) - 13,571
14 PS2 Hisshou Pachi-Slot Kouryoku Series Vol. 5 (D3)
15 NDS Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
16 NDS Pokemon Ranger (Nintendo)
17 NDS Gyakuten Saiban: Yomigaeru Gyakuten (Best Price) (Capcom) - 7,991 (18,738)
18 NDS Metroid Prime Hunters (Nintendo) - 7,485 (59,058)
19 NDS Yawaraka Atama Juku (Nintendo)
20 NDS Puzzle Series Vol. 3: Sudoku (Hudson)
21 PSP World Soccer Winning Eleven 9: Ubiquitous Edition (PSP the Best) (Konami)
22 PSP Nou Ryoku Trainer Portable 2 (Sega)
23 NDS Unou no Tatsujin: Gunbullet Trainer (Namco)
24 PSP Doko Demo Issho: Let's Gakkou! (Sony) - 5,424 (22,276)
25 NDS Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten (Nintendo)
26 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Major League (Konami)
27 PS2 Final Fantasy XII (Square Enix)
28 NDS Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana (Square Enix)
29 PSP Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable (Square Enix) - 4,707
30 NSD Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi (Bandai)

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 28, 2006, 07:44:28 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold

Hmm, on that site it says the total PSP hardware sold worldwide is 17 million whereas the DS is 16.93 million, which is way off.. maybe they use Sony's "shipped" numbers.
Number for number they are stolen off of Kaz's E3 PSP Hardware Shipments slide.

Edit: Or at least, they match the video I have of Kaz lecturing us.

Edit2: Also the page does say that it is shippments and not sales. I just noticed that. We certainly know who's stock is selling more though
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 28, 2006, 08:48:53 PM
12 PS2 Galaxy Angel II (Broccoli) - 18,902

As I understand it that's a dating sim. No idea how pathologically insane you have to be to try dating any of those girls. Half the time they're destroying the whole universe, the other half of the time they're killing themselves or everyone nearby.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2006, 08:53:03 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
12 PS2 Galaxy Angel II (Broccoli) - 18,902

As I understand it that's a dating sim. No idea how pathologically insane you have to be to try dating any of those girls. Half the time they're destroying the whole universe, the other half of the time they're killing themselves or everyone nearby.
So, you've played the game b4? then you should have some idea
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2006, 09:07:06 PM
Saw this pointed out elsewhere, thought it was interesting

Top 3 DS games
2. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS) - 170,168 (1,848,813)
3. Brain Age 2 (NDS) - 57,752 (2,594,989)
5. Brain Age (NDS) - 38,766 (2,437,374)


Top 3 PSP games
9. Sony Brain Experience (PSP) - 23,548
21 Winning Eleven 9 (PSP)
22 Nou Ryoku (Brain) Trainer Portable 2 (PSP)  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 28, 2006, 11:20:46 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
SMB wasn't actually sold to most people, it was included for free for with the NES. I'm sure if you wanted to count the most owned gamed ever that would definately be SMB on NES, but as far as sold, I'm not so sure.
That's why I said that SMB3 had the most sales ever for a standalone game

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 29, 2006, 12:08:56 AM
I was just nitpicking on the fact that even thought you stated SMB3 was the highest selling standalone, you said that SMB was the highest "selling" period, when most of the copies of SMB weren't actually "sold" but given away. I guess it really all depends on how you look at it. Either way I was just nitpicking and its nothing to argue over.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 29, 2006, 03:32:06 AM
So, you've played the game b4? then you should have some idea

No, I watched the anime. And I still think Forte is a man.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on June 29, 2006, 06:29:43 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
SMB wasn't actually sold to most people, it was included for free for with the NES. I'm sure if you wanted to count the most owned gamed ever that would definately be SMB on NES, but as far as sold, I'm not so sure.
That's why I said that SMB3 had the most sales ever for a standalone game


My guess would be Super Mario Allstars. I don't know a single Super Nintendo owner that doesn't possess that game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 29, 2006, 06:52:27 AM
Super Mario World was bundled with the SNES for a long time too, and you could send in like $4.95 S&H and get a free copy of All-Stars for a long time as well. I think eventually the SNES was even bundled with Super Mario All Stars+World...I think bundled games should count in sales, since a lot of time the system is sold because of the bundle.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 29, 2006, 09:41:53 AM
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My guess would be Super Mario Allstars. I don't know a single Super Nintendo owner that doesn't possess that game.
I didn't.  But I sure wish I did.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 29, 2006, 08:44:13 PM
I had it once but lost it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Luigi Dude on June 29, 2006, 11:02:39 PM
I rented it, but never owned it.  I still feel like a complete idiot for not buying it when I had plenty of chances.  I wonder if it'll be on the Virtual Console, because as Nintendo showed with the Mario Advance games,they want us to buy all the Mario games seperately so they can maximize profits.

Of course I'd still download the NES versions as well since I'm the kind of person who likes having both versions.  But I'm sure alot of people would just download Super Mario All-Stars to save money, which would anger Nintendo.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on June 29, 2006, 11:04:05 PM
I would.

Nintendo has made enough money with those games!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 29, 2006, 11:37:08 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I was just nitpicking on the fact that even thought you stated SMB3 was the highest selling standalone, you said that SMB was the highest "selling" period, when most of the copies of SMB weren't actually "sold" but given away. I guess it really all depends on how you look at it. Either way I was just nitpicking and its nothing to argue over.
Ah..

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Luigi Dude on June 30, 2006, 12:04:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
I would.

Nintendo has made enough money with those games!


To all the companies in the world, there's no such thing as enough.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 30, 2006, 03:10:46 AM
DSL     157,022
PS2    25,467
PSP    24,737
DS    10,132
GBASP    3,784
GBM    1,502
GC    1,197
Xbox360    1,169
GBA    25
Xbox    10
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on June 30, 2006, 05:22:30 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus

GC    1,197
Xbox360    1,169


Nice
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2006, 10:20:33 AM
HOW CAN THIS BE
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 30, 2006, 10:43:56 AM
 I like how the PS2 outsold the PSP this week. Things are as they should be in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chzn8r on June 30, 2006, 11:28:08 AM
Think about this guys. We thought it was cool when the DS led week after week last year with only 30k to 40k sales in those spans, and we thought that was a lot.

The DS Lite has been selling 100k plus EVERY SINGLE WEEK for a long streak and hasn't showed any signs of slowing! That's really really damn good! These are all non-holiday sales too. Nintendo is going to be rolling in pits of cash come the holiday season with this thing on the market.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 30, 2006, 01:02:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
HOW CAN THIS BE


FOR GC IS THE KWIZATZ HADERACH!

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Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: willie1234 on June 30, 2006, 07:57:30 PM
nice dune reference
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 01, 2006, 02:24:03 PM
Did I spell it right?

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Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Cap on July 04, 2006, 02:53:33 PM
I dont usually post sales info, but heres the UK game charts for 6/25/06 to 7/01/06. No actual number of units sold unfortunately, but it would seem that the ds is doing fairly well in the UK.

1   Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories,   PS2
2   New Super Mario Bros.,   DS
3   2006 FIFA World Cup ,   PS2
4   Dr Kawashima's Brain Training,   DS
5   Pro Evolution Soccer 5,   PS2
6   Tomb Raider: Legend,   Xbox 260
7   Over the Hedge,   PS2
8   Hitman: Blood Money,   PS2
9   Nintendogs: Dalmatian and Friends,   DS
10  Animal Crossing: Wild World,   DS
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 04, 2006, 04:04:57 PM
heh... xbox 260
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 06, 2006, 06:32:37 PM
Media Create - June 26 to July 2

1 New Super Mario Bros. (NDS) 154299 (2,003,112)
2 Dragon Ball Z (PS2) 95082 (95,082)
3 Brain Age 2 (NDS) 54564 (2,649,553)
4 Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2) 37466 (318,976)
5 Winning Eleven 10 (PS2) 10 37342 (900,799)
6 Brain Age (NDS) 37228 (2,474,602)
7 Animal Crossing WW (NDS) 27070 (2,885,061)
8 Summer Holidays 20th Century (PSP) 26314 (26,314)
9 English Training (NDS) 23883 (1,217,208)
10 Atelier Iris Grand Fantasm (PS2) 23760 (23,760)
~
11  Tetris DS (NDS) Nintendo
12  Digimon Story (NDS) Bandai-Namco
13  Mario Kart DS (NDS) Nintendo
14  Sony Computer Science Kenkyuusho Kenmogi Kenichirou Hakase Kanshuu - Nou ni Kaikan: Aha Taiken (PSP) SCE
15  Pokemon Ranger (NDS) Nintendo
16  Chromehounds (360) SEGA 9,200 / 9,200
17  Hisshou Pachi-Slot Kouryoku Series Vol. 5 (PS2) D3 Publisher
18  Phoenix Wright: Ace Attourney (Best Price!) (NDS) Capcom
19  Parufu: Chocolat Second Brew (PS2) Alchemist
20  Metroid Prime: Hunters (NDS) Nintendo
21  Big Brain Academy (NDS) Nintendo
22  Magical Vacation: 5-tsu no Hoshi Ganarabutoki (NDS) Nintendo 5,500 / 19,000
23  King of Fighters XI (PS2) SNK
24  360  Kong (360) Electronic Arts
25  Puzzle Series Vol. 3: Sudoku (NDS) Hudson 4,900 / 76,000
26  FIFA Street 2 (PS2) Electronic Arts
27  Simple 2000 Series Vol. 101: The Oane-Chapara 2 (PS2) D3 Publisher
28  Soul Link: Extension (PS2) Interchannel
29  Brain Trainer Portable 2 (PSP) SEGA
30  Fiesta!! Hyper Girls Party (PS2) Kid Game

Hardware:

DSL 153,566
PSP 25,935
PS2 23,133
DS 3,504
GBASP 2,919
Xbox360 1,897
GBM 1,443
GC 1,002
GBA 17
Xbox 8
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2006, 08:30:07 AM
European software charts week ending July 1st, 2006

Top 40 all prices:
1 1 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES / ROCKSTAR LEEDS / ROCKSTAR / TAKE 2
- 2 NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. / NINTENDO / NINTENDO / NINTENDO
2 3 FIFA WORLD CUP GERMANY 2006 / EA CANADA / EA SPORTS / ELECTRONIC ARTS
3 4 DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING / NINTENDO / NINTENDO / NINTENDO
4 5 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 / KONAMI CORPORATION / PLATINUM / KONAMI
6 6 TOMB RAIDER: LEGEND / CRYSTAL DYNAMICS / EIDOS / EIDOS
12 7 OVER THE HEDGE / EDGE OF REALITY / ACTIVISION / ACTIVISION
5 8 HITMAN: BLOOD MONEY / IO INTERACTIVE / EIDOS / EIDOS
7 9 NINTENDOGS: DALMATIAN & FRIENDS / NINTENDO / NINTENDO / NINTENDO
10 10 ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD / NINTENDO / NINTENDO / NINTENDO

8 11 RISE & FALL: CIVILIZATIONS AT WAR / MIDWAY / MIDWAY / MIDWAY
11 12 THE SIMS 2 / MAXIS / EA GAMES / ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 13 OVER G FIGHTERS / TAITO / UBISOFT / UBISOFT
17 14 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED / EA CANADA / EA GAMES / ELECTRONIC ARTS
13 15 DYNASTY WARRIORS 5: EMPIRES / OMEGA FORCE / KOEI / KOEI
15 16 CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER 2006 / BEAUTIFUL GAME STUDIOS / EIDOS / EIDOS
18 17 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE / UBISOFT (CASABLANCA) / UBISOFT / UBISOFT
9 18 SENSIBLE SOCCER 2006 / KUJU ENTERTAINMENT / CODEMASTERS / CODEMASTERS
25 19 LOCOROCO / SONY COMPUTER ENT. / SONY COMPUTER ENT. / SONY COMPUTER ENT.
14 20 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2006 / SPORTS INTERACTIVE / SEGA / SEGA
21 21 DAXTER / READY AT DAWN STUDIOS / SONY COMPUTER ENT. / SONY COMPUTER ENT.
28 22 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS / ROCKSTAR NORTH / PLATINUM / TAKE 2
27 23 MARIO KART DS / NINTENDO / NINTENDO / NINTENDO
22 24 FIFA STREET 2 / EA CANADA / EA SPORTS / ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 25 TITAN QUEST / IRON LORE / THQ / THQ
39 26 TRUE CRIME: NEW YORK CITY / LUXOFLUX / ACTIVISION / ACTIVISION
- 27 LEGO STAR WARS / TRAVELLER'S TALES / PLATINUM / TT GAMES
20 28 ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN / EUROCOM ENTERTAINMENT / SIERRA / VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
- 29 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE / EA CHERTSEY / EA GAMES / ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 30 OUTRUN 2006: COAST 2 COAST / SUMO DIGITAL / SEGA / SEGA
16 31 METROID PRIME: HUNTERS / NST / NINTENDO / NINTENDO
31 32 TOM CLANCY'S GHOST RECON: ADV WARFIGHTER / UBISOFT / RED STORM / UBISOFT
30 33 THE ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION / BETHESDA / 2K GAMES / TAKE 2
- 34 NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS / NINTENDO / NINTENDO / NINTENDO
26 35 HALF-LIFE 2: EPISODE ONE / VALVE / EA GAMES / ELECTRONIC ARTS
19 36 X-MEN: THE OFFICIAL GAME / Z-AXIS / ACTIVISION / ACTIVISION
- 37 THE MATRIX: PATH OF NEO / SHINY ENTERTAINMENT / ATARI / ATARI
23 38 MOTO GP 06 / CLIMAX / THQ / THQ
- 39 MIDWAY ARCADE TREASURES: EXTENDED PLAY / BACKBONE / MIDWAY / MIDWAY
- 40 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 / YUKE'S / THQ / THQ

Top 40 full prices:
- 1 NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
1 2 FIFA WORLD CUP GERMANY 2006 EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
3 3 TOMB RAIDER: LEGEND CRYSTAL DYNAMICS EIDOS EIDOS
9 4 OVER THE HEDGE EDGE OF REALITY ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
2 5 HITMAN: BLOOD MONEY IO INTERACTIVE EIDOS EIDOS
4 6 NINTENDOGS: DALMATIAN & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
7 7 ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
5 8 RISE & FALL: CIVILIZATIONS AT WAR MIDWAY MIDWAY MIDWAY
8 9 THE SIMS 2 MAXIS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 10 OVER G FIGHTERS TAITO UBISOFT UBISOFT
14 11 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED EA CANADA EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
10 12 DYNASTY WARRIORS 5: EMPIRES OMEGA FORCE KOEI KOEI
12 13 CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER 2006 BEAUTIFUL GAME STUDIOS EIDOS EIDOS
6 14 SENSIBLE SOCCER 2006 KUJU ENTERTAINMENT CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS
22 15 LOCOROCO SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
11 16 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2006 SPORTS INTERACTIVE SEGA SEGA
18 17 DAXTER READY AT DAWN STUDIOS SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
16 18 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI CORPORATION KONAMI KONAMI
24 19 MARIO KART DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
19 20 FIFA STREET 2 EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 21 TITAN QUEST IRON LORE THQ THQ
17 22 ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN EUROCOM ENTERTAINMENT SIERRA VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
36 23 OUTRUN 2006: COAST 2 COAST SUMO DIGITAL SEGA SEGA
13 24 METROID PRIME: HUNTERS NST NINTENDO NINTENDO
27 25 TOM CLANCY'S GHOST RECON: ADV WARFIGHTER UBISOFT RED STORM UBISOFT
26 26 THE ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION BETHESDA 2K GAMES TAKE 2
39 27 NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
23 28 HALF-LIFE 2: EPISODE ONE VALVE EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
15 29 X-MEN: THE OFFICIAL GAME Z-AXIS ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
32 30 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES ROCKSTAR LEEDS ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
20 31 MOTO GP 06 CLIMAX THQ THQ
31 32 FIFA 06 EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
37 33 WORLD OF WARCRAFT BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT BLIZZARD VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
25 34 TETRIS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
34 35 LEMMINGS TEAM 17 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
21 36 TOURIST TROPHY: REAL RIDING SIMULATOR POLYPHONY DIGITAL SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
28 37 ROCKSTAR GAMES PRESENTS TABLE TENNIS ROCKSTAR SAN DIEGO ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
29 38 SONIC RUSH SONIC TEAM SEGA SEGA
33 39 THE DA VINCI CODE THE COLLECTIVE 2K GAMES TAKE 2
- 40 MICRO MACHINES V4 SUPERSONIC CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS

DS:
- 1 NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
1 2 DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
2 3 NINTENDOGS: DALMATIAN & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
3 4 ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
5 5 OVER THE HEDGE VICARIOUS VISIONS ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
6 6 MARIO KART DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
4 7 METROID PRIME: HUNTERS NST NINTENDO NINTENDO
10 8 NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
9 9 SUPER MONKEY BALL: TOUCH & ROLL AMUSEMENT VISION SEGA SEGA
7 10 TETRIS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
8 11 SONIC RUSH SONIC TEAM SEGA SEGA
11 12 SUPER PRINCESS PEACH TOSE NINTENDO NINTENDO
14 13 THE SIMS 2 AMAZE ENTERTAINMENT EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
15 14 SUPER MARIO 64 DS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
18 15 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT (CASABLANCA) UBISOFT UBISOFT
13 16 FIFA WORLD CUP GERMANY 2006 EXIENT EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
20 17 NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
12 18 TAMAGOTCHI CONNEXION: CORNER SHOP NANA ON SHA NAMCO BANDAI GAMES ATARI
16 19 HASBRO COMPILATION SENSORY SWEEP ATARI ATARI
19 20 TRAUMA CENTER: UNDER THE KNIFE ATLUS SOFTWARE NINTENDO NINTENDO
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NSMB was only out for 2 days and still charted at 2nd place in overall sales
GTA:LCS is a combination of PSP & PS2 versions which is the only reason it placed #1 over NSMB  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2006, 10:13:07 PM
I'm guessing that's PS2 sales since it appears to be a budget title.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 08, 2006, 01:40:01 AM
Australian Software Sales Charts for July 2nd



Source
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2006, 05:49:48 AM
Ah, I just noticed that GTALCS is on the PC as well. Same goes for Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition (which I think is even PC exclusive).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 08, 2006, 04:37:31 PM
Cars.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 08, 2006, 10:38:58 PM
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 08, 2006, 11:05:57 PM
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European software charts week ending July 1st, 2006

That's just the UK, not Europe. :P
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on July 09, 2006, 07:02:14 AM
DMC 3 SE is a Greatest Hits title for the PS2 also.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 09, 2006, 07:44:06 AM
Never seen that. I've tried finding it for quite a while now (ever since I've heard about its release in the US) but the PC version was the only one I've seen.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 09, 2006, 11:18:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Aussiedude



Brilliant.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 09, 2006, 09:53:43 PM
last I heard, DMC3 wasn't released on PS2 in Europe
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 10, 2006, 04:38:14 AM
Yes, seems like it. The system requirements are pretty moderate so I think I'm going to pick it up.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on July 10, 2006, 10:48:08 AM
Devil May Cry SUCKS!

If you like beat-em-up games like that, get God Of War.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on July 10, 2006, 03:32:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Never seen that. I've tried finding it for quite a while now (ever since I've heard about its release in the US) but the PC version was the only one I've seen.


Try Costo or Sam's Club or Target.  Also, here's a link to it found at Gamestop.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 10, 2006, 04:34:55 PM
I doubt he'll hop a plane to the united states to see a real life copy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 10, 2006, 10:15:38 PM
Requiem: Yes but God of War costs 60€ while DMC3 is 30€ now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 11, 2006, 09:31:56 AM
Press release from NOE
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11th July 2006 - In its sleek new form, the Nintendo DS Lite hit stores across Europe on 23rd June, and since then has been snapped up by eager customers, with more than 200,000 units sold in the first 10 days - proving the Nintendo DS Lite is the must have console of the summer!

The successful launch of Nintendo DS Lite, and the huge success of Nintendo’s range of Touch! Generations games, has secured Nintendo’s lead in the handheld market, with total sales of Nintendo DS now over 5 million in Europe.

"Nintendo DS has introduced thousands of new people to gaming and will continue to expand the gaming population due to its ability to appeal to both gamers and non-gamers. During Nintendo DS Lite launch weekend, retailers across Europe said that they had never seen such a vast array of different people buying the product, everyone from business men to young women to grandfathers!" said Laurent Fischer, European Marketing Director, Nintendo of Europe.

Nintendo’s Touch! Generations range, a selection of innovative software designed to appeal to people of all ages and gaming experience, is also a big hit across Europe. Following the recent launch of Nintendogs Dalmatian & Friends, total sales of all Nintendogs software has now reached a staggering 3 million in Europe. Animal Crossing: Wild World has seen similar success, selling over 600,000 copies, as well as maintaining its position within the top five software sales in the majority of countries across Europe since it launched at the end of March. There are also over 250,000 people across Europe now training their brains with Dr Kawashima’s Brain Training: How Old is Your Brain?

With many more Touch! Generations games launching this year, including the just launched Big Brain Academy, Nintendo DS will continue to be the main driving force behind the expansion of the video game market this year.

The Nintendo DS Lite is available now in black and white priced at around £99.99 (150 Euros). For all the latest information on Touch! Generation titles please visit www.touchgenerations.com.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 11, 2006, 10:24:26 AM
total domination.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 12, 2006, 02:44:30 PM
Does anyone notice that the sales on the wikipedia articles of DS and PSP are way, way off? Someone more well-versed in editing wiki and the sales numbers needs to make that change.

Apparently DS has "16 million shipped, all versions" while PSP has "17.03 million shipped".

Just wrong in every way.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 12, 2006, 03:16:34 PM
Give me the right numbers (and a link to properly source it) and I can fix it. I'm somewhat familiar with Wiki-editing.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 12, 2006, 08:41:37 PM
Media Create July 3rd - 9th

1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. 134,568 / 2,137,680
2. (PS2, Namco) Xenosaga Episode III - 123,847 / new
3. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 50,634 / 2,700,187
4. (PSP, Namco) Tekken Dark Resurrection - 49,426
5. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 33,771 / 2,508,373
6. (DS, Capcom) Rockman ZX - 33,652 / new
7. (PS2, Konami) Winning Eleven 10 - 31,228 / 932,027
8. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 26,234 / 2,911,295
9. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 21,956 / 1,239,164
10. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Super Dragon Ball Z - 21,355 / 116,437
~
11. Valkyrie Profile 2 - 18,683
12. Tetris DS
13. Boku no Natsuyasumi Portable
14. Mario Kart DS
15. Digimon Story
16. Pokemon Ranger
17. Daito Giken Premium Pachislot Collection - 8,273
18. Brave Story PSP - 8,238
19. Hiiro no Kakera - 7,600
20. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Best Price - 6,562
21. Shinseiki Evolution 2nd Impact Pachislot
22. SCE Science Kenkyuujou
23. Big Brain Academy
24. Puzzle Series Vol. 3 SUDOKU
25. Metroid Prime Hunters
26. Iris Atlier Sunrise Fantasm
27. Nana - 4,109
28. Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana
29. Brave Story DS - 3,929
30. Dare Demo Asobi Taizen


Uh Oh, PSP made it into the Top 5 this week!! Is PSP making a comeback?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 12, 2006, 09:13:13 PM
Hm... I really though DS would have a 3 million unit selling game in Animal Crossing by now. Instead it looks like New Super Mario is going to make 3 million first.

The DS now has 4 games working twords selling 3 million copies each.... wow. And we still have Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and FFIII to come this year.... Yikes.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 12, 2006, 10:14:53 PM
Australian Software Sales Charts for July 9th




Brain Training shows staying power and moves up a notch. See what happens WHEN you advertise Nintendo!
They are also advertising Big Brain Acadamy, will be interesting if this makes All Format charts as well.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 12, 2006, 10:27:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas

The DS now has 4 games working twords selling 3 million copies each.... wow. And we still have Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and FFIII to come this year.... Yikes.


Any bets these are the first DS games to break the 4 million barrier? What PS2 games have reched these milestones? (if any)

It really makes you wonder why devs continue to focus on PSP, especially since PSP is more expensive to develop for. They were quick to drop GCN when it was not selling.


 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 12, 2006, 10:32:41 PM
Big Brain Academy is probably flopping here because EB Games are charging $69 for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: oohhboy on July 13, 2006, 12:37:18 AM
I do believe Brain Age is the superior product.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on July 13, 2006, 07:07:57 AM
Saying devs were quick to drop GCN isn't totally true, the first big announcements I remember hearing came in 2003, although there were probably individual games being canned before that.  I bet there are individual games being canned on PSP too, but we probably won't see large-scale support withdrawals until after this Christmas, I'm thinking.

The other thing to consider is that it takes a while to make games.  Most PSP games coming out right now probably began development last year and most of the time it makes more sense to finish the game off and release it than to throw away several months of work.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 13, 2006, 07:38:29 AM
most of the time it makes more sense to finish the game off and release it than to throw away several months of work.

No, often games get cancelled weeks before release simply to save the money on distribution and marketing. Sure, they could do a limited unadvertised run but I guess hey don't like that idea.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on July 13, 2006, 10:21:01 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Hm... I really though DS would have a 3 million unit selling game in Animal Crossing by now. Instead it looks like New Super Mario is going to make 3 million first.

No way, AC:WW will break 3 million in about 1 month.  NSMB will take another 2 months a lease.

Quote

The DS now has 4 games working twords selling 3 million copies each.... wow. And we still have Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and FFIII to come this year.... Yikes.

They may be, though when they are released, there will be a huge upsurge in DS sales.  Lots of people do not buy just one or two games.  I see people buying Pokemon with their new DSL along with NSMB, Brain Training 1 & 2, and AC:WW.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 13, 2006, 04:33:37 PM
New NPD for June

DS 593k
PS2 312k
360 277k
PSP 221k
GBA 189K
GCN 51K
XBX 24k

AMERIKA WAKES UP!

But that's not all! New SMB is the top selling game of the month! ... again!

NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS > 450k
PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES > 390k
NDS BRAIN AGE > 200k
PS2 CARS >180k
360 HITMAN: BLOOD MONEY >160k
GBA CARS >160k
PS2 FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 >150k
NDS BIG BRAIN ACADEMY > 100k

More accurate non-rounded off numbers later.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 13, 2006, 04:35:58 PM
We're not so stoopid after all then.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 13, 2006, 07:25:40 PM
DS + DS Lite sold more than PS2 and X360 combined O_O

Amerika not only woke up, but they grabbed a cup of coffee and jogged to work with a smile on their face.

Nintendo loses to everyone else combined in hardware by only 1,000 units sold!!! what a pleasant turn around
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 13, 2006, 08:16:05 PM
Wow, GBA is still selling strongly here! 189K a month rounds to a little more than about 40k a week! That's more than the PSP sells weekly in Nippon! ... wait, no it isn't. Still! That's still a lot!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Caterkiller on July 13, 2006, 09:40:09 PM
It begins...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on July 13, 2006, 10:22:08 PM
"I fear we have awoken a sleeping giant." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 13, 2006, 10:46:35 PM
Yes! Finally! I said that I would give up on the North American market if Mario and the Lite didn't help. Well, hopefully this is the beginning..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 13, 2006, 11:24:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Media Create July 3rd - 9th

1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. 134,568 / 2,137,680
2. (PS2, Namco) Xenosaga Episode III - 123,847 / new
3. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 50,634 / 2,700,187
4. (PSP, Namco) Tekken Dark Resurrection - 49,426
5. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 33,771 / 2,508,373
6. (DS, Capcom) Rockman ZX - 33,652 / new
7. (PS2, Konami) Winning Eleven 10 - 31,228 / 932,027
8. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 26,234 / 2,911,295
9. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 21,956 / 1,239,164
10. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Super Dragon Ball Z - 21,355 / 116,437
~
11. Valkyrie Profile 2 - 18,683
12. Tetris DS
13. Boku no Natsuyasumi Portable
14. Mario Kart DS
15. Digimon Story
16. Pokemon Ranger
17. Daito Giken Premium Pachislot Collection - 8,273
18. Brave Story PSP - 8,238
19. Hiiro no Kakera - 7,600
20. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Best Price - 6,562
21. Shinseiki Evolution 2nd Impact Pachislot
22. SCE Science Kenkyuujou
23. Big Brain Academy
24. Puzzle Series Vol. 3 SUDOKU
25. Metroid Prime Hunters
26. Iris Atlier Sunrise Fantasm
27. Nana - 4,109
28. Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana
29. Brave Story DS - 3,929
30. Dare Demo Asobi Taizen


Uh Oh, PSP made it into the Top 5 this week!! Is PSP making a comeback?


Hardware Chart July 3 - July 9

1) Nintendo DS Lite - 149,454
2) Playstation Portable - 31,959
3) Playstation 2 - 23,332
4) GameBoy Advance SP - 2,818
5) Xbox 360 - 1,610
6) GameBoy Micro - 1,379
7) Nintendo DS - 1,009
8) Gamecube – 934

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 13, 2006, 11:51:51 PM
... uncharacteristicly large jump from the PSP there... and DS sales are down. Is Japan merely swapping with the US?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 14, 2006, 12:03:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
... uncharacteristicly large jump from the PSP there... and DS sales are down. Is Japan merely swapping with the US?


The DS is only slightly beating the Gamecube, looks like the DS is da doomed again in Japan. AMERIKA WAKES UP! Japan shuts up!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 14, 2006, 03:47:33 AM
I find it interesting that Xenosaga Ep III failed to get the top slot, and Valkyrie Profile 2 sinking so quickly.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on July 14, 2006, 05:06:51 AM
Just to be an argumentative bastard, it seems like for every Playstation fanboy that has to replace his broken PSX/PS2, there's a Nintendo fanboy that buys two or three versions of the GBA/DS.  I'm really happy to see DS at the top, but how many of those are repeat sales?  How many people in this very thread own both versions of the DS?

Still, put the hardware sales together with the game sales, and it's clear that DS is on the offensive now.  The battle has been won, now for the war!  I'm a tremendous clownboat.

On the disappointing side, X-men, Over the Hedge and Cars.  Blech.  Granted, those sales are totalled across all platforms, and there weren't a ton of big releases in June.

Japan sales - I guess PSP's spike is probably due to the new Tekken game.  Take note Sony.  GCN drops to the triple digits.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on July 14, 2006, 05:33:18 AM
On the plus side, you have to ask what's being done with the "old" units.  When someone buys a new PS2 to replace their broken one, the old one goes in the trash (pretty much).  When someone buys a DSL to replace their old DS, there's a good chance they'll trade in that old DS (meaning, in theory, that someone else is going to buy it and, more importantly, buy games for it) or sell/give it to a friend/family member.

The point is, repeat sales on the DS (usually) still leaves the original DS unit in the food chain.  Repeat sales on the PS2, typically do not.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2006, 05:45:46 AM
Xenosaga isn't a big seller. Doesn't surprise me that it didn't take first place, especially not against a big hitter like a Mario main-series game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 14, 2006, 06:05:52 AM
I sold my old DS before I got my DSlite. Though I technically bought both systems, it's no different than if the other person had bought the Lite and I still had my original.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: darknight06 on July 14, 2006, 06:15:02 AM
I guess I can see sorta why Tekken 5 DR is selling somewhat, it is the first real Tekken to hit handheld.  It's too bad that without a "piece" you'll never be able to do anything that involves a diagonal, including blocking low.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on July 14, 2006, 08:58:20 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Japan sales - I guess PSP's spike is probably due to the new Tekken game.  Take note Sony.  GCN drops to the triple digits.


Yet the Xbox does not even get listed any longer.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 14, 2006, 09:19:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Japan sales - I guess PSP's spike is probably due to the new Tekken game.  Take note Sony.  GCN drops to the triple digits.


Yet the Xbox does not even get listed any longer.
What about the GBA? the regular non-lit GBA? We must know the numbers, which one sold more, GBA or Xbox?

prediction:
GBA - 4
Xbox - 1

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 14, 2006, 09:47:54 AM
GBA     20
Xbox    13
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 14, 2006, 04:35:10 PM
According to NPD numbers referenced here, the DS has a small installed base lead in the US.

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Installed Hardware Userbase

1.) PlayStation 2 - 33,978,596
2.) Game Boy Advance - 32,490,952 (February 2006 and June 2006 numbers not included)
3.) Xbox - 14,445,092
4.) GameCube - 11,150,628 (June 2006 numbers not included)
5.) Nintendo DS - 5,187,240
6.) PlayStation Portable - 4,711,961
7.) Xbox 360 - 2,002,601


Hmm...5 mil in USA, 5 mil in Europe... 9 mil in Nippon, 19 mil worldwide installed base?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 14, 2006, 11:48:19 PM
Seems about right; after the PSP launch it outsold the DS by a slim margin for most of the months until now. The DS had sold quite a bit before the PSP came out, though, so it was still leading. I think the lead should be a bit more however - in between 500,000 and a million in North America.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 14, 2006, 11:59:36 PM
Hmm.. Xbox's "shipped" rate is 22 million. Their installed sell-through base is more questionable.

Gamecube has probably 21 million sold through by now. With Gamecube selling faster in all territories, is it possible that the history books can put the 'Cube as the ultimate victor? It seems that possibly by the time Wii comes out, the gap could be closed.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 15, 2006, 12:46:01 AM
All I know is that virtually all of those XBoxes must be in Europe, because it's neck to neck with the Cube in America and WAAAAAAAAY behind in Japan.

That's assuming that the XBox REALLY is somewhere near the Cube in sales, and assuming that MS hasn't been doing the same number trickery that Sony likes to do.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 15, 2006, 01:47:30 AM
Xbox is WAY ahead of GC in America last time I checked. :P

GC isn't really selling at all, anywhere at all, so I doubt it can catch up. Nintendo killed it with TP Wii.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 15, 2006, 06:56:20 AM
Xbox has been whooping Gamecube's ass in the US for quite some time. It was neck and neck for maybe the first yeard, and a good bit of the second, but GTA3 and Halo 2 ended that race.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 15, 2006, 08:27:31 AM
Not according to NPD.

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Installed Hardware Userbase

3.) Xbox - 14,445,092
4.) GameCube - 11,150,628 (June 2006 numbers not included)



3 million is most definitely not a huge lead. And XBox is non-existent in Japan. This means that the Cube's big failure should be in Europe, and that's where the XBox makes up for Japan.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 15, 2006, 08:33:45 AM
Xbox has 22 million shipped. It has ceased production, and the remaining units will eventually trickle through the public.

However, Gamecube has about 21 million sold. Depending on how many remain in stores (and if any are still being made), that will by the eventual number sold.

If there are a million unsold Gamecubes left or if a million have yet to be made, Gamecube will surpass and win. Yes, it's not a big deal for Nintendo's profits but it is a big deal for our petty fanboy pride.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 15, 2006, 11:25:24 AM
Well, I remember the 22 ~ 21 million figure being thrown around a year or more ago. This suggests that we've been horribly duped by marketting trickery.

I suspect that if this is true, we shall really need to start viewing Microsoft numbers with the same rampant skepticism that we view Sony numbers.

For example, Microsoft has boasted of a 60% penetration rate of XBox live. But that's for the free silver membership that can access the store and buy downloadable games and make gamer tags. I wonder what the gold membership penetration rate is because these are the only gamers who are opting into actually playing a game ONLINE.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 15, 2006, 12:28:02 PM
Doesn't NPD skip WalMart? There's your discrepency there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 15, 2006, 04:05:06 PM
Throw all NPD sales figures out the window...from a high building.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 15, 2006, 11:17:38 PM
Kairon: NPD does NOT cover Europe.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 15, 2006, 11:28:47 PM
Yeah. That's why I figure that the Xbox must be beating the pants off of the Cube in Europe to make up for it's non-existence in Japan, and since it only has a 3 million unit lead in North America.

Of course, if we're gonna throw NPD numbers out the door, then both the American AND european markets are still relatievly unknown.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 16, 2006, 12:49:30 AM
Cube doesn't exist in Japan? True in a way, but it still sold a fair few million, which is a fair few million more than Xbox. Which probably makes them even, then Xbox leading in Europe is probably what pushes Xbox over the edge. Not that it really matters... it just points out how uniformed people are. GC's are literally being given away free with games here, and nobody gets them, because nobody even knows.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 16, 2006, 08:40:43 AM
Really.  Where are you?  I need a new GC and I could use a game.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 16, 2006, 10:46:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Really.  Where are you?  I need a new GC and I could use a game.
he is in Australia, so unless you have a FreeLoader....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 16, 2006, 01:25:55 PM
I could buy a FreeLoader cheaper then a Cube...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 16, 2006, 05:56:35 PM
Lets also take into account the people that have 2 or 3 Gamecubes because of the different colors/designs. I'm sure it's not that many, but it could make a slight difference. Also, if the numbers are accurate (which they're not), the Xbox has sold roughly 30% more consoles than the Gamecube in the US, which is pretty significant.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 16, 2006, 08:29:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Really.  Where are you?  I need a new GC and I could use a game.

Aussie Toys R Us, Target and a few other shops are giving them away free with Mario Smash Football, and a few other games like SSBM and MKDD.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on July 17, 2006, 09:35:01 AM
Wait, Xbox 360 has only sold 2 million copies in the USA to date?  I thought Microsoft was going on about selling 10 million units before the competion comes out.  They've sold zilch in Japan, and I seriously doubt they've sold 8 million units in Europe.  What gives?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 17, 2006, 09:36:50 AM
Literally free? Like, actually. Free. No way. I mean, maybe free with the purchase of a thousand dollars or something?

Nintendo needs to get out of Australia and never look back.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 17, 2006, 09:51:12 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Wait, Xbox 360 has only sold 2 million copies in the USA to date?  I thought Microsoft was going on about selling 10 million units before the competion comes out.  They've sold zilch in Japan, and I seriously doubt they've sold 8 million units in Europe.  What gives?
Actually I think they are somewhere around 5 million sold WW with right around 3 million in the U.S.(or is that N.A.?)

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 17, 2006, 10:33:40 AM
Yeah, I heard 5 mil as well, but they HOPE to sell 10 mil before the competition comes out.

We'll see, as the current 360 sell rate isn't enough to reach that number by the time the Wii rolls around.

If they'd just hurry up and release Halo 3, they'd sell a f*ckload more units.

Prey and others like it are great games and all, but you can get them on the PC for cheaper and you can have mods and mouse and keyboard. It's going to take the exclusive "killer app" to truly get the 360s off the shelves and that app is, without question, Halo 3.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on July 17, 2006, 10:51:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
If they'd just hurry up and release Halo 3, they'd sell a f*ckload more units.

Prey and others like it are great games and all, but you can get them on the PC for cheaper and you can have mods and mouse and keyboard. It's going to take the exclusive "killer app" to truly get the 360s off the shelves and that app is, without question, Halo 3.


Meh...

I don't agree with that statement.

I believe Halo does NOT have the selling power it use to. When it first came to the Xbox, it was a very solid multi-player FPS with vehicles and an engine we hadn't yet seen. It was fresh and well-rounded. And most importantly, it was new.

Ever since it's arrival, there have been more and more FPS's than ever before. These other games just flooded the market, so much so, that even when we played Halo 2, it left a stale taste in our mouth. You can see exactly what I mean with the "sand-box" genre that GTA created. Nobody bought GTA: PSP, and for a good reason.

As popular as Halo is, I don't think it'll become the killer app Microsoft intends it to be. Unless it's vastly more innovative and more fun to play, I think Halo owners will be content with the setup they already have (or at least until the 360 is cheaper and has other notable games as well). I could very well be wrong, but I don't think it will have the selling power Halo once did.

And to generalize a bit, I don't think the 360 is doing a very good job selling them to previous xbox owners period. $400 dollars for a system that is a marginal improvement above your old system isn't going to sell you one. I see people sitting on the fence with the mentality "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 17, 2006, 10:58:42 AM
There's a Halo fanbase which only buys Xboxes for Halo at all. It's like their version of Zelda.

I know of a few people who are holding out for the release of Halo 3 and swear they'll buy a 360 once Halo hits. It's the same way a lot of people only bought the GC for Metroid Prime.

I don't know how fresh or new Halo 3 will be (probably not very) but the Halo fanbase is a great deal larger than most of us think.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 17, 2006, 01:06:25 PM
Halo has become a household name because of the MS hype machine. Had it come out on PS2 it would be have been a moderate success. The fact is that sandbox junk like GTA PSP didn't sell well because of PSP. When it was ported to PS2 it just sold and sold and sold -- a definite sign of just what kind of platform PSP is and likely a hint to future third parties.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on July 17, 2006, 02:12:13 PM
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Originally posted by: Neodymium
Halo has become a household name because of the MS hype machine. Had it come out on PS2 it would be have been a moderate success. The fact is that sandbox junk like GTA PSP didn't sell well because of PSP. When it was ported to PS2 it just sold and sold and sold -- a definite sign of just what kind of platform PSP is and likely a hint to future third parties.


Actually, it's a bit more than the PSP.  Yes it didn't sell well on the PSP.  But that is partly because it was $50 for a port of GTAIII with the ability to ride motorcycles or something like that.  It sold abysmally because of that.  When they ported it over to PS2, it was SRP $19.99; much cheaper than $50.  Plus, a lot more uninformed people own PS2s and think that LCS is a new game rather than a port.  Sales will die quickly on it when word gets around to the uninformed that it is the same game they played in 2001.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 17, 2006, 06:43:35 PM
Halo 2 is the #1 played game on Xbox Live. I played last night (Brandogg360 if anyone cares) and each time I'd enter a lobby it would fill immediately. Halo 3 is going to sell a LOT of XBox 360s. A LOT.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 17, 2006, 06:53:34 PM
Halo is...the American Final Fantasy?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 17, 2006, 07:05:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Halo is...the American Final Fantasy?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com




What a profound, indeniable, tragic observation. But there are far more in the US that like RPGs than in Japan that like generic shooters. So.. go good games!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on July 17, 2006, 07:57:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Halo 2 is the #1 played game on Xbox Live. I played last night (Brandogg360 if anyone cares) and each time I'd enter a lobby it would fill immediately. Halo 3 is going to sell a LOT of XBox 360s. A LOT.


I'm sure it is...

But of that number, how many people are playing off the original Xbox?

Alot, you say...

Well hmmmm

Don't you think that if Halo 3 is only marginally improved (as was H2 although Online is a huge improvement, just look at MKS), that people might be content with there setup?

If there are alot of people still playing it, and it's a assload of fun, why switch to an expensive console that requires an HDTV?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 17, 2006, 08:47:54 PM
I think you're selling Bungie a little short when you posit that Halo 3 will have very few selling points over Halo 2. Besides, Halo is an epic trilogy. The third game has a lot of built-in appeal and egaerness just around how they intend to wrap up the story and the Master Chief's purpose of being.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on July 17, 2006, 09:24:01 PM
I see what you guys are saying, and it makes sense. I guess I'm a little hard-headed.

I'm sure it'll sell alot of titles, and give people a reason to pick up a 360, but it won't reach killer-app status by reeling in the same group of fish it caught last time.

That's all I'm saying.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on July 18, 2006, 05:26:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I think you're selling Bungie a little short when you posit that Halo 3 will have very few selling points over Halo 2. Besides, Halo is an epic trilogy. The third game has a lot of built-in appeal and egaerness just around how they intend to wrap up the story and the Master Chief's purpose of being.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Yeah.. it's not going to happen. They won't just "end the series." Any series popular enough to warrant a sequel will continue to be made. Maybe not "Halo 4," but "Halo: The Tale of That Black Captain Guy" or "Halo: Kovenant Kart." Just like Jak and Daxter was supposed to end after Jak and Daxter 3.

Do you think MS would allow that phenomenon to end and them to stop making heaps and heaps of money? That's like ending Pokemon. Even Monkey Island (bless the name) was popular enough to warrant a third and fourth game despite Ron Gilbert's intention to have a trilogy. His vision for the third game was thrown out the window and the series will come out (at increasingly slow intervals ) for a while.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SixthAngel on July 18, 2006, 06:24:10 AM
I predict that after Halo 3 Bungie will want to stop making Halo games and will for a while.  Before long Microsoft will begin trying to force them to make a sequel and the people in Bungie will get pissed.  Ever since they were bought by microsoft they only made Halo so they have yet to have the problems that first parties who want to move on typically have.  After fighting with with Microsoft for some time about making another Halo and taking too long with other games most of the top people at Bungie will leave and form a new company essentially getting rid of who allowed Bungie to make great games like Myth and Halo.

This happens to first party companies all the time (Rare) and is a reason why I like how Nintendo cares about keeping the people behind the games and not the companies themselves.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Magik on July 18, 2006, 08:13:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
If they'd just hurry up and release Halo 3, they'd sell a f*ckload more units.

Prey and others like it are great games and all, but you can get them on the PC for cheaper and you can have mods and mouse and keyboard. It's going to take the exclusive "killer app" to truly get the 360s off the shelves and that app is, without question, Halo 3.


Meh...

I don't agree with that statement.

I believe Halo does NOT have the selling power it use to. When it first came to the Xbox, it was a very solid multi-player FPS with vehicles and an engine we hadn't yet seen. It was fresh and well-rounded. And most importantly, it was new.

Ever since it's arrival, there have been more and more FPS's than ever before. These other games just flooded the market, so much so, that even when we played Halo 2, it left a stale taste in our mouth. You can see exactly what I mean with the "sand-box" genre that GTA created. Nobody bought GTA: PSP, and for a good reason.

As popular as Halo is, I don't think it'll become the killer app Microsoft intends it to be. Unless it's vastly more innovative and more fun to play, I think Halo owners will be content with the setup they already have (or at least until the 360 is cheaper and has other notable games as well). I could very well be wrong, but I don't think it will have the selling power Halo once did.

And to generalize a bit, I don't think the 360 is doing a very good job selling them to previous xbox owners period. $400 dollars for a system that is a marginal improvement above your old system isn't going to sell you one. I see people sitting on the fence with the mentality "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."


The Halo franchise may not have as much selling power as it use to when Halo 2 came out, but its selling power is still very high if not the highest at this moment.

Sure, there have been many FPS that were released since Halo 2, but NONE of them were able to do what Halo 2 did in terms of sales or hype.  So many of these new FPS tried to be the 'Halo-killer' and every single on of them failed and all it did was actually make the Halo franchise even stronger rather than weakening it.  The Halo franchise has not weaken itself like GTA has.

I don't know where you're getting that nobody bought GTA:PSP when globally, it has sold around 2.8 million.

The Halo franchise will always be Microsoft's #1 killer app.  If people were content with their set up, they wouldn't have bought Halo 2 when its clear that Halo 2 didn't do anything better than Halo 1, but people still bought it in mass.  The same thing will happen with Halo 3.  

The Halo franchise was never really innovative in the first place besides the focus on driving but that never really was the point.  What Halo did was take the existing console FPS genre and improved on it.

There are so many people in the Halo community that will only buy a 360 for Halo 3 and nothing else.

The 360 isn't going to sell itself to the Halo crowd on its own merits, but Halo 3 will be what sells them a 360.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on July 18, 2006, 12:54:53 PM
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I don't know where you're getting that nobody bought GTA:PSP when globally, it has sold around 2.8 million.


Which is to say it has a third of the selling potential as... say... Nintendogs.  Another thing to note is that GTA:LCS did not push many PSP sales out the door.  In fact, when it was released alongside MarioKart DS, MK: DS sold more, and the DS itself sold more.  And in comparison to what GTA usually does, it can be considered a colossal failure which required Take 2 to port it to the PS2, where it even bombed there this month, selling less than CARS (total) and a month old Platformer for the DS. (NSMB)

I think Ian put it best... (IAN?!).  Yes Ian.  In his volumes of indecipherable rambling, a few gems to get loose, hardened by the years of angry compression.  Anyhoo, he said that the reason GTA on the PSP may not be so enticing as for the console version is because of the buy-in to enjoy what is basically the same game (and technically, it was).  Getting a PS2 for GTAIII was necessary because the idea was fresh.  The sequels just sold as sequels do.  However, crafting a similar experience on a handheld and then charging $300 (PSP and game) to play it was kinda nutty, especiall since you could get a PS2 and ALL of the GTA games, including the one the PSP game is based on, for less than that.  So GTA: LCS only sold to the hardest of hardcore GTA fans, which, in America, only amounts to about 1.16 million, a significant amount, but less than 1/7 of what it used to be.  Nintendogs sold more than twice as much, and subsequently Mario Kart DS and SM64DS sold more.

But as for people completing the "Halo Triology" by getting a 360 for it, I think two things need to be put up for consideration:

1) How many Xbox 360's have been sold in anticipation of Halo 3 to begin with?
2) how many of those people will be willing to shed out $460 (the price all total) to get Halo 3?

While I have no doubt in my mind that Halo 3 will sell units, I think that it possibly may not sell as much as it used to or move as many Xbox 360's as one might expect.

But anyway, LOL DS sales.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 18, 2006, 06:47:17 PM
I think this thread is in serious need of some DS #'s to re-rail this thread....

BestBuy.Com Top 10 - July 9th to July 15th
gamespot.com

1. New Super Mario Bros. DS
2. Brain Age:Train Your Brain DS

3. Prey 360
4. Chromehounds 360
5. 2006 FIFA World Cup PS2
6. Big Brain Academy DS
7. Fifa 06 PS2
8. Naruto:Ultimate Ninja PS2
9. GRAW 360
10. 2006 FIFA World Cup Xbox

DS hold 3 of the Top 10 and 2 of the Top 2
I don't think Halo 3 will be able to match NSMB is pure selling power and profit potential
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on July 18, 2006, 07:11:57 PM
Sorry BnM, but I gots to do this....


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Originally posted by: Magik
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The Halo franchise will always be Microsoft's #1 killer app.  If people were content with their set up, they wouldn't have bought Halo 2 when its clear that Halo 2 didn't do anything better than Halo 1, but people still bought it in mass.  The same thing will happen with Halo 3.


One word: Online.

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There are so many people in the Halo community that will only buy a 360 for Halo 3 and nothing else.


So you agree that Microsoft is fishing in their own pond? I guess that's good. But I'm surprised that so many of Microsoft's fans do not own a 360.

The 360 can't even sell to the majority of it's fans? But I digress...



I'm guessing that's the states right? Pretty damn good!

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Magik on July 19, 2006, 10:02:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
Sorry BnM, but I gots to do this....


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Originally posted by: Magik
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The Halo franchise will always be Microsoft's #1 killer app.  If people were content with their set up, they wouldn't have bought Halo 2 when its clear that Halo 2 didn't do anything better than Halo 1, but people still bought it in mass.  The same thing will happen with Halo 3.


One word: Online.

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There are so many people in the Halo community that will only buy a 360 for Halo 3 and nothing else.


So you agree that Microsoft is fishing in their own pond? I guess that's good. But I'm surprised that so many of Microsoft's fans do not own a 360.

The 360 can't even sell to the majority of it's fans? But I digress...



I'm guessing that's the states right? Pretty damn good!


I personally wouldn't consider the online portion of Halo 2 as an advantage considering how broken the damn thing is.

Actually, if you check out the Halo community from the speed runners, tricksters and campaign freaks, you'll notice that a lot of them are not Microsoft fans and are just plain Halo fans.  A lot of people are just interested in only Halo similar to how there's a large population that are only interested in Zelda and not specifically the console its on.

Anyways, enough Halo talk.  Back to DS sales.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 19, 2006, 12:47:33 PM
You know doesn't Halo one of the games that won't work on a 360?  First I Release Halo 3.  Then the whole trilogy a year later for the 360.  At that point it be best to stop.  Like Star Wars (movies) or Metriod.  Let people long for the game a gen and then give them what they want.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on July 19, 2006, 12:51:17 PM
I'm almost positive Halo and Halo 2 both work on the 360.  I can't believe Microsoft would let those games slip those the very large cracks in their backwards compatibility.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 19, 2006, 12:55:43 PM
Your right.  I remember a stink about it not to long ago.  I guess they fixed it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2006, 07:54:41 PM
In yet another attempt to "re-rail" this thread,
the Pink DS Lite and Cuisine Navigator came out today.
Supposedly HUGE lines have formed to be the 1 of the 1st to own a pink DS lite(and hopefully Cuisine Navi)
Expect DS #'s to be rather large next week when they are released

edit: Pictures from famitsu
&
More pictures from Dengeki
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2006, 10:50:57 PM
Media Create July 10th - 16th

1 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 - 151,906 / NEW
2 NDS New Super Mario Bros. - 119,190 / 2,256,870
3 PS2 Persona 3 - 116,682 / NEW
4 PS2 Sarugetchu Million Monkeys - 57,255 / NEW
5 NDS Brain Age 2 - 52,024 / 2,752,211
6 NDS Project Hacker - 37,165 / NEW
7 PSP LocoRoco - 31,848 / NEW
8 NDS Brain Age - 31,549 / 2,539,922
9 NDS Naruto RPG 3 - 26518 / NEW
10 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 25,746 / 2,937,042
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11 PSP Quiz Mobile Gundam DX / NEW
12 PS2 Winning Eleven 10
13 NDS English Training
14 PSP Tekken DR
15 NDS Tetris DS
16 PS2 Xenosaga EP III
17 NDS Rockman ZX
18 NDS Pokemon Ranger
19 NDS Mario Kart DS
20 NDS Digimon Story
21 PS2 Super Dragon Ball Z
22 PS2 VP2 Silmeria
23 PSP my Summer Vacation
24 PSP Brave Story
25 NDS Big Brain Academy
26 NDS Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Best Price
27 PSP SCE Science Kenkyuujou
28 PSP Tengai Makyou 4 / NEW
29 PS2 Shinseiki Evolution 2nd Impact Pachislot
30 Daito Giken Premium Pachislot Collection Yoshi Takashi
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GBA bit generations dotstream - 4,500 [NEW]
GBA bit generations Dialhex - 2,400 [NEW]
GBA bit generations Boundish - 1,800 [NEW]
PSP Tengai Makyou 4 - 4,600 [NEW]
NDS Brave Story - 2500 [7,000]

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Hardware #'s

DSL - 140,858
PSP - 35,283
PS2 - 23,927
DS - 11,821
GBASP - 2,619
GBM - 1,581
Xbox360 - 1,105
GC 928
GBA 28
Xbox 10
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 20, 2006, 03:39:46 AM
Furthering B&M's efforts to keep this thread on track (highly unlikely it will succede ) here are the  
Australian Software Sales Charts for July 16th.



Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 20, 2006, 05:32:11 AM
I'm pretty sure Halo and Halo 2 have always been BC for XBox 360. Also, the console in no way requires an HDTV. One last point, if you've seen the "behind the scenes" of the Halo 3 trailer (waste of time, don't watch it), one of the designers says he hopes Halo 3 will be the ending to an epic trilogy. Sure there might be another Halo-themed game, but it most likely won't be called Halo, since Halo has been destroyed, or will be or something to that effect...I just play online.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 20, 2006, 05:33:20 AM
BTW the DS sales still kick ass, but some of the games in the Aus top 10 make me sad...Pirates of the Carribbean and Hasbro 4 Game Fun Pack come to mind.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on July 20, 2006, 05:37:04 AM
Glad to see Nintendo kicking some butt in Australia, even if it's just two games, but....WHAT'S GOING ON IN JAPAN?  I mean, PSP game rockets into the top ten?  PS2 takes three of the top four?  Looks like this is the beginning of the end for NintenD'oh!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 20, 2006, 06:34:10 AM
No Halo 2 talk beyond this post.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chzn8r on July 20, 2006, 09:47:01 AM
7 PSP games in the top 30, that must be a first. And yet, the hardware still sells next to nothing compared to the DSL.
And big new PS2 releases topping the charts shouldn't be surprising whatsoever. It does have the biggest installed userbase of any system there...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 20, 2006, 12:17:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Chzn8r
7 PSP games in the top 30, that must be a first. And yet, the hardware still sells next to nothing compared to the DSL.
And big new PS2 releases topping the charts shouldn't be surprising whatsoever. It does have the biggest installed userbase of any system there...


I would like to know how many units those PSP games have sold. It appears the units sold starts really dropping off past the top 10.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 20, 2006, 04:17:39 PM
But that's a new game, and the next game in line is Brain Age, which sold ANOTHER 31,000 this last week. I know it's sarcasm, but still worth pointing out. Nintendo could stop making games in Japan for a year and still have 3 or 4 in the top 10 every week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 21, 2006, 09:14:14 AM
Hardware #'s confirmed up above

YTD/LTD

NDS - 3,849,643/9,496,595
PSP - 988,181/3,671,143

NDS Lead - 2,861,462/5,825,452

NDS will hit 4mill YTD at the same time that PSP 1mill YTD - NDS out sells PSP 4 to 1
NDS has sold more YTD that PSP has LTD in japan - just adding insult to injury
NDS will lead 3mill YTD and 6mill LTD by this time next week(when #'s are released)
Pink NDS will likely smother all sales of Loco Robo for PSP - Sony will not catch a break

edit: More data gathered from elsewhere

GBASP after 20 weeks: 1.22M
DSL after 20 weeks: 2.93M
Time for GBASP to reach 2.93M: ~53 weeks

"GBA after SP" after 20 weeks: 314K
"DS after DSL" after 20 weeks: 468K
Time for "GBA after SP" to reach 468K: ~35 weeks

DS after 20 weeks: 2.08M
PSP after 20 weeks: 1.23M
GBM after 20 weeks: 441K
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on July 21, 2006, 12:23:37 PM
Looking at those 20-week sales, it's interesting to see just how well PSP did at launch, similar to GBASP and muuch better than GB Micro.  Of course, it launched in the holiday season too, I don't think that was the case for SP.

This reminds me of the N64 vs. PSX.  The launch went really well for N64, but eventually things reached their usual "one dominant system" state.  For a while there, this looked like the closest race Japan has seen, but now DS has taken on that dominant role.  PSP isn't doomed, per se, but it's going to be stuck in the same distant second place as N64 and GameCube have been in on the home console market.

It's also going to be interesting to see how worldwide sales go the next couple of months, as they seem to be turning towards DS.  If DS can parlay it's Japanese success into worldwide success, I think that would be good news for Wii.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on July 21, 2006, 01:47:59 PM
DS continues to dominate
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 23, 2006, 11:44:36 PM
source: Bloomberg.com

No more copying and pasting full articles please.

DS continues to outdo all forecast and Nintendo just can't produce them fast enough.
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on July 24, 2006, 04:52:18 AM
No more copying and pasting full articles please.

Source  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on July 25, 2006, 11:49:14 AM
Q&A with Peter Dille, senior vice present of marketing at Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc.

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Originally posted by: http://www.upi.com/Hi-Tech/view.php?StoryID=20060718-011505-7402r
Q. The DS is currently getting all of the buzz and hype, what do you think Sony can do to get people talking more about the PSP?

A. In North America, the PSP has outsold all next-generation handhelds since we launched in March 2005, with more than 4.7 million units sold. In May, according to NPD data, the PSP was the top-selling portable handheld at nearly 160,000 units. We're pleased with the success the PSP has achieved, and the next step is to build on that success with our core gaming audience to reach a wider mass market audience. One key finding in our market research is that many consumers don't understand everything the PSP can do. So starting this summer, we're embarking on a major marketing campaign to educate consumers about the multi-functionality of the PSP beyond gaming. It's a powerful device in a portable package, and this effort will help us continue the momentum that made PSP the No. 1 selling system in its class last year.


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 25, 2006, 12:01:05 PM
I love how they dont mention the NPD data that shows their decline.

I also love how they think the focus on games (since when?) is their problem. It's the exact opposite, morons!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2006, 02:23:19 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
source: Bloomberg.com

No more copying and pasting full articles please.
.
I only copied half of the article, well a little more than half, but it definately wasn't the full article.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 25, 2006, 05:56:38 PM
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One key finding in our market research is that many consumers don't understand everything the PSP can do. So starting this summer, we're embarking on a major marketing campaign to educate consumers about the multi-functionality of the PSP beyond gaming. It's a powerful device in a portable package, and this effort will help us continue the momentum that made PSP the No. 1 selling system in its class last year.
Wow. Just when you thought the PSP's tie-in ratio couldn't go any lower, this happens..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on July 25, 2006, 06:17:29 PM
Didn't they start out trying to market the PSP as a multi-functional gadget?  Then they tried pushing it as a gaming machine (It's like carpet you play outside)... now they're back to the multi-function thing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2006, 06:44:33 PM
No, it was like carpet you could watch out side and nuts you could play with outside (which I now realize is hilarious as well as stupid).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SixthAngel on July 25, 2006, 07:48:20 PM
When you don't have any games coming out you don't have much of choice but to concentrate on the other functions.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 26, 2006, 07:23:33 AM
One key finding in our market research is that many consumers don't understand everything the PSP can do.

I don't think it's a good idea to tell them that the PSP can't play PS2 games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 26, 2006, 08:19:41 AM
Nor DVDs.

Plus try convincing them web browsing is a super-fun-ride when you lack a keyboard and a suitable pointing device.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 26, 2006, 10:16:21 AM
It's called "creative classification" and Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert) cites it as one of the most commonly used weasel tricks.

Note:

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...and this effort will help us continue the momentum that made PSP the No. 1 selling system in its class last year.


They can call the PSP the number one selling system because they've isolated it to a "class" and they when they say "next gen", they don't count the DS because "next gen" is, once again, creative classification.

Remember when McDonalds had "Lobster Roll Sandwiches"? Remember how the ad campaign called it "Honest to goodness lobster"?

Yeah, it was CC. That was likely made from the same stuff as the imitation crab meat.

It's the same BS Sony has pulled for years: twist and mangle the truth so that even the worst situations sound like they're turning out in Sony's favor.

Don't be surprised if they use the PS3's classification as a "computer" to call it "the best selling item of its class!" or some other such hogsh*t.

But it doesn't matter. At some point, they won't be able to lie their way out of a reality when the PS3 flops and Sony is forced to file chapter 11.

Seriously, if BluRay manages to sink the PS3 (and all indications suggest that it will), then Sony has run out of options.

I'd love to see an interviewer ask a Sony rep why Sony had to borrow $700 million to manufacture the PS3. Then, when they put the Sony spin on it, saying that it was a "good market for borrowing", ask why Nintendo didn't borrow money to manufacture the Wii if the market was supposedly so good.

Man, I have a list of questions I'd ask them. I'm glad the DS is doing so insanely well. I don't think I could have dealt with it if Sony's tactics of lies and spin won them the handheld console market.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 26, 2006, 06:56:13 PM
Media-Create July 17th - 23rd

Software
1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 145,095 / 2,401,965
2. (DS, Nintendo) Shaberu! Oryouri Nabi - 126,530
3. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Training - 72,327 / 2,824,538
4. (PS2, Bandai) Battle Stadium DON - 49,085
5. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Training - 44,499 / 2,584,420
6. (PS2, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 - 44,242 / 196,148
7. (PSP, SCE) BLEACH Heat The Soul 3 - 35,476
8. (GC, Bandai) Battle Stadium DON - 35,399
9. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 35,121 / 2,972,162
10. (DS, Nintendo) English Training DS - 28,905 / 1,289,633
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11. NDS - Kanpeki Kanji (TDK) - 22,500
12. PS2 - Persona 3 (Atlus) - 22,000 / 138,682
13. NDS - Tetris DS (Nintendo)
14. NDS - Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
15. PS2 - Wrestle Kingdom (Yuke's) - 17,800
16. NDS - Project Hacker (Nintendo) - 16,900 / 54,065
17. PS2 - Winning Eleven 10 (Konami)
18. PSP - LocoRoco (Sony) - 16,000 / 47,848
19. PS2 - Ape Escape Million Monkeys (Sony)
20. NDS - Pokemon Ranger (Nintendo)
21. NDS - Naruto RPG 3 (Tomy) - 11,700 / 38,218
22. PSP - Tekken DR (Namco Bandai) - 11,000 / 78,000
23. NDS - Digimon Story (Namco Bandai)
24. NDS - Touch! Bomberman Land (Hudson) - 10,700
25. PS2 - GPO Blue (Sony) - 9,900
26. NDS - Rockman ZX (Capcom) - 9,700
27. PSP - My Vacation (Sony)
28. NDS - Big Brain Acamedy (Nintendo)
29. PS2 - Xenosaga Episode III (Namco)
30. PSP - Ultraman Fighting Evolution 0 (Banpresto) - 7,400

NDS Kanpeki Kanji - 22,500 [NEW]
NDS Kanpeki English - 7,100 [NEW]
NDS Bomberman Land DS - 10,700 [NEW]
NDS Project Jacker - 16,900
NDS Naruto RPG 3 - 11,700
NDS Rockman ZX - 9,700

PSP Ultraman FE0 - 7,400 [NEW]
PSP Portable Island - 4,600 [NEW]
PSP Kings Field Additional 1- 3,600 [NEW]
PSP Loco Roco - 16,000
PSP Quiz Gundam - 5,000
PSP Tekken DR - 11,000

PS2 Wrestle Kingdom - 17,800 [NEW]
PS2 GPO Blue - 9900 [NEW]
PS2 Garou Battle Archives - 7,100 [NEW]
PS2 Persona 3 - 22,000
(mc)

Hardware
DSL - 262,000
PSP - 35,000
PS2 - 22,000
DS - 6,300
GBASP - 2,900
Xbox360 - 1,400
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 26, 2006, 07:10:32 PM
You posted some of the same games twice... anyway the two dead systems are fighting it out, if only GC beat that PSP game. So close! What were GC hardware numbers?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on July 26, 2006, 07:36:16 PM
Hmm. Wow. That's a bit of a jump. Need to get out more of the pinkDSlitegoodness
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 26, 2006, 07:40:56 PM
Mario: I haven't seen the GC vs Xbox #'s yet

cmoney: I think any color DS lite would do, they are selling out of stock everytime upon delivery of the shipment. They could make a best seller out of a s#!t brown if they really wanted to.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 26, 2006, 07:47:34 PM
Something interesting is that New Super Mario Bros is on track to outsell Super Mario World.

This is a new golden era in gaming folks!

Oh yeah, new Australian weekly sales chart is out



Good to see more DS games, but i'd rather people just kept buying New SMB and Brain Age instead. This does send a good message to third parties though.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on July 26, 2006, 08:46:47 PM
Ah so true. I think I'D by a s**tbrown DSlite, myself. Would look groovy indeed.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 26, 2006, 09:13:51 PM
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Originally posted by: cmoney
Ah so true. I think I'D by a s**tbrown DSlite, myself. Would look groovy indeed.


The official color name would be "Mocha", of course.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 26, 2006, 10:39:01 PM
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I'd love to see an interviewer ask a Sony rep why Sony had to borrow $700 million to manufacture the PS3. Then, when they put the Sony spin on it, saying that it was a "good market for borrowing", ask why Nintendo didn't borrow money to manufacture the Wii if the market was supposedly so good.
With all due respect to Nintendo, they have chosen a path that vastly differs from ours. The PS3 focuses on cutting edge technology for games and for multimedia; our Cell processor and Blu-Ray drive make the PS3 the most advanced of all the consoles in the upcoming generation. The "Wii", on the other hand, while capable enough to cater to its niche market, lags behind technologically. As you may know, the "Wii" is not capable of rendering High Definition textures, due to its lack of processing power. Some may even call it outdated when comparing it to our PS3. Taking this into mind, our manufacturing costs are sure to be higher than the competition. Since the environment is currently conducive to borrowing, we decided to take a small loan in order to ensure that the PS3 is ready on time. Furthermore, the people who will directly benefit from this loan are our loyal consumers. They will be able to get the PS3 and its second-to-none features for a low price this autumn. Our retail price is, dare I say, a bargain for anyone who buys it, especially considering the fact that some Blu-Ray players retail for more themselves. It is obvious that this strategy will pay dividends come the PS3 launch.

I should be hired by Sony

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Something interesting is that New Super Mario Bros is on track to outsell Super Mario World.

This is a new golden era in gaming folks!
Wow, really? Wonderful.. How I long for the days when Mario ruled the world..  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 27, 2006, 03:07:07 AM
This should put things into perspective.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2006, 03:24:07 AM
This should put it into an even better perspective.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 27, 2006, 03:38:46 AM
Haha it's like he got a Mushroom after just being released, and is heading towards the Giant Mushroom. Amazing how it surpassed Super Mario Sunshine in one week. I wonder if this huge hype will carry on towards Super Mario Galaxy? I certainly hope so!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2006, 03:43:06 AM
Here is another chart that includes the Top 9 DS games
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 27, 2006, 04:16:45 AM
Where's Super Mario Land 2 on that Mario chart?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on July 27, 2006, 07:01:32 AM
i really want to see some US sales numbers. :/
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 27, 2006, 07:41:01 AM
June NPD numbers (i.e US numbers) were released not to long ago. They are back on page 106. NPD numbers are hard to comeby so no clue if July NPD numbers will be available.

Cubed3.com has a more statistics oriented coverage of June's NPD numbers.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 27, 2006, 11:32:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold With all due respect to Nintendo, they have chosen a path that vastly differs from ours. The PS3 focuses on cutting edge technology for games and for multimedia; our Cell processor and Blu-Ray drive make the PS3 the most advanced of all the consoles in the upcoming generation. The "Wii", on the other hand, while capable enough to cater to its niche market, lags behind technologically. As you may know, the "Wii" is not capable of rendering High Definition textures, due to its lack of processing power. Some may even call it outdated when comparing it to our PS3. Taking this into mind, our manufacturing costs are sure to be higher than the competition. Since the environment is currently conducive to borrowing, we decided to take a small loan in order to ensure that the PS3 is ready on time. Furthermore, the people who will directly benefit from this loan are our loyal consumers. They will be able to get the PS3 and its second-to-none features for a low price this autumn. Our retail price is, dare I say, a bargain for anyone who buys it, especially considering the fact that some Blu-Ray players retail for more themselves. It is obvious that this strategy will pay dividends come the PS3 launch.


Yes, but the follow up question would be: Why didn't you pay for it with all the profits from your handheld system like Nintendo did with theirs?

As for US sales data...

Game Sales Charts
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on July 27, 2006, 11:58:08 AM
Sony management felt profits should be returned to shareholders in the form of dividends.  Nintendo's management is a bunch of greedy punks who keep the money for themselves.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: cmoney on July 27, 2006, 01:06:21 PM
Word. Thanks Flavas and smash_bro. Numbers aren't bad.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Guitar Smasher on July 27, 2006, 04:14:03 PM
"Yes, but the follow up question would be: Why didn't you pay for it with all the profits from your handheld system like Nintendo did with theirs?"

Aren't PSPs sold at a loss?  Or have they finally broke even?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 27, 2006, 04:53:27 PM
PSP is still sold at loss.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 27, 2006, 06:23:42 PM
DSL 262,453
PSP 35,938
PS2 22,288
DS 6,344
GBASP 2,953
Xbox360 1,472
GBM 1,410
GC 1,076
GBA 20
Xbox 0

HAHAHAHAHA that Xbox number is 100% real. GBA WINS!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2006, 06:29:00 PM
THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES HERE, PEOPLE
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 27, 2006, 07:36:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
This should put things into perspective.


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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
This should put it into an even better perspective.
First off, these are only Japanese sales numbers.. the other Marios did way better worldwide. I think Super Mario 64 sold 10+ million worldwide, and SMW did extremely well too. Also, BnM's chart doesn't include the NES, where the two highest selling Mario (and every other) games of all time were.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 27, 2006, 08:47:26 PM
True. It's jsut too much of a hassle to grab all that data from the US market. But I think Super Mario 64 sold 5 million there when all was said and done. New Super Mario Bros has a long way to go to match that, if the DS starts to take off there like it has in Japan though, anything can happen. The NES Super Marios aren't included in that Japanese chart most probably since weekly sales weren't around back when those were topping the charts.

According to The Magicbox the overall sales of those was

Super Mario Bros.     6.81
Super Mario Bros. 3    3.84

New SMB should end up about the same as SMB3. I don't think it even has a chance of topping the original, we're going to have to wait for a mega groundbreaking industry shaking new Mario for that to happen.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2006, 09:11:24 PM
Don't forget system pack-ins.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 27, 2006, 09:43:40 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu Sony management felt profits should be returned to shareholders in the form of dividends.  Nintendo's management is a bunch of greedy punks who keep the money for themselves.


Given that news of Sony's loan sent the stock plummeting, don't you think shareholders would have rather had Sony keep the money and not devalue their shares?

I would definitely keep hounding them like this...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 27, 2006, 10:22:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario

GBA 20
Xbox 0

HAHAHAHAHA that Xbox number is 100% real. GBA WINS!
There's obviously just a shortage of the original Xbox.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 28, 2006, 09:32:10 PM
I'm seriously thinking of going to Japan and buying an Xbox right about now..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on July 29, 2006, 03:52:13 PM
You'd be famous!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 29, 2006, 07:52:13 PM
Aren't the Japanese Xboxes somehow different than the NA ones? I think years from now the Japanese versions will be a highly prized collectors item since so few were ever sold.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on July 31, 2006, 06:18:36 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
Aren't the Japanese Xboxes somehow different than the NA ones? I think years from now the Japanese versions will be a highly prized collectors item since so few were ever sold.



I've never thought about that, but you know something, I bet you're right. Especially that limited edition Kasumi blue Xbox.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 31, 2006, 06:56:47 PM
Nintendo DS Breaks Sales Record!!!!!

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Originally posted by: Gamespot.com
Nintendo announced today that Japanese sales of its DS handheld have passed the 10 million mark after just 20 months on the market--a new record for game console sales, the company claimed.


That settles it, the DS has officially conquered Japan and there is no stopping this "Machine of Dual Screens".
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 01, 2006, 06:25:51 PM
More details on DS software world figures
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(In millions)
Nintendogs 7.37
Animal Crossing: Wild World 4.66
Mario Kart DS 4.64
New Super Mario Bros 3.84
Super Mario 64 DS 3.76
Brain Training 3.69
Brain Training 2 3.11
Wario Ware Touched 1.97
Brain Flex 1.58
Tamogotchi Connection: Corner Shop 1.27
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time 1.22
Tetris DS 1.19
English Training 1.14
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 01, 2006, 06:41:21 PM
Metroid Prime: Hunters isn't on that list.. I guess it flopped in Japan and didn't do as well as expected in North America. I'm predicting that New Super Mario Bros will be on top of that list before long.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 01, 2006, 07:34:15 PM
Metroid Prime: Hunters was just a bone thrown to traditional hardcore gamers to keep them quiet for a bit. The real action for the DS has been in the less traditional genres, from non-games, to quirky titles like Phoenix Wright or Kaitou Rousseau, to Animal Crossing.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 02, 2006, 03:30:49 AM
Australian Software Sales Charts for July 30th

3 DS titles in the top 10, only one XBOX360 title (Genuine Wireless funpack is a bundle with Kameo, Project Gotham Racing 3 and an extra Wireless Controller). Full price X360 games ($110 - 120 AUD) cant be selling well, Toys are us have already lowered all 360 games to $90 AUD or below.

Another thing Ive noticed is the in-store X360 demo games Pods are nearly always broken. Last week was the first time since they were installed I was actually able to demo a game, Ridge racer,  which was very good and the load times although still too long were much shorter than Project Gotham.

The top spot is not surprisingly AFL premiership 2006, which is our football game and it is almost finals time. Yes Nintendo if you want to win with the Wii here release a AFL game and also a cricket game so you win in the UK as well. The Wii is just perfect for cricket. WTF cares about shiit american football Madden in Australia (well maybe 10 people) we want our AFL and cricket games







   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on August 02, 2006, 06:20:00 AM
"Animal Crossing Wild World - Strategy"

I got a kick out of that genre listing for some reason...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2006, 03:02:10 AM
Media Create Charts: July 24th - 30th

Software:
1. (DS, Bandai) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini - 192,458
2. (PS2, Capcom) Sengoku Basara 2 - 135,850
3. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros - 114,225 / 2,516,190
4. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Basket 3 on 3- 110,708
5. (PS2, Atlus) Kamaitachi no Yoru 3 - 97,315
6. (DS, Nintendo) Shaberu! Oryouri Nabi - 61,326 / 187,856
7. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 53,103 / 2,877,641
8. (PSP, Enterbrain) Derby Stallion P - 49,206
9. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 32,419 / 2,616,839
10. (DS, Sega) Mushiking Greatest Champion e no Michi 2 - 31,763
~~ 11-30 numbers unconfirmed:
11. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 - 31,270 (196,148)
12. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World - 29,847 (3,002,009)
13. PS2 Kinnikuman Max Grand Prix - 27,321
14. NDS English Training DS - 23,881 (1,313,514)
15. PS2 Battle Stadium DON - 22,929 (72,014)
16. PS2 True Crime NYC - 17,516
17. PS2 Persona 3 - 16,993 (155,980)
18. NDS Mario Kart DS
19. PS2 Hajimari no Yoru - 14,574
20. NDS Tetris DS
21. PSP LocoRoco - 13,001 (61,129)
22. NDS Digimon Story
23. PS2 Winning Eleven 10
24. GC Battle Stadium DON - 12,655 (48,054)
25. PS2 Ape Escape Million Monkeys
26. NDS Pokemon Ranger
27. NDS Jinsei Game DS - 9,570
28. PSP BLEACH Heat the Soul 3 - 9,441 (44,917)
29. X360 Barret Witch - 9,083
30. PSP Boku no Natsuyasumi Portable

Hardware:
DSL - 176,853
PSP - 42,604
PS2 - 26,451
X360 - 2,246
GBASP - 2,229
GBM - 1,766
DS - 1,530
GC - 1,039
Xbox - 11
GBA - 9  

AC:WW crosses the 3 million seller mark making it the 19th best selling game in Japan (according to another source)
NSMB is in its 10th week in a row selling above 100,000 and will possibly hit 11 or 12 too.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 03, 2006, 03:03:14 AM
Japanese software sales July 24- 30

1. (DS, Bandai) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini - 192,458
2. (PS2, Capcom) Sengoku Basara 2 - 135,850
3. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros - 114,225 / 2,516,190
4. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Basket 3 on 3- 110,708
5. (PS2, Atlus) Kamaitachi no Yoru 3 - 97,315
6. (DS, Nintendo) Shaberu! Oryouri Nabi - 61,326 / 187,856
7. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 53,103 / 2,877,641
8. (PSP, Enterbrain) Derby Stallion P - 49,206
9. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 32,419 / 2,616,839
10. (DS, Sega) Mushiking Greatest Champion e no Michi 2 - 31,763

Mario Hoops didn't do as well as I had expected.

EDIT:  Damnit BnM!  You beat me by a minute.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 03, 2006, 07:37:05 AM
Looking at those worldwide games sales on the previous page, I was surprised to see Animal Crossing in second place instead of Mario Kart.  The series is now cemented as a major Nintendo franchise.

Japanese numbers...I know the hardware is not official, but it's interesting to see PSP get a bit of a boost.  Is it this new horse racing game?  Or maybe just a blip due to people that were angry that they couldn't find a pink DS Lite?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 03, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
I wonder how well the Opera web browser for DS has sold. The sales chart seems to have no mention of it...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on August 03, 2006, 10:50:16 AM
Isn't this the first time Animal Crossing WW has not been in the top 10?
The world is crashing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on August 03, 2006, 03:16:01 PM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Looking at those worldwide games sales on the previous page, I was surprised to see Animal Crossing in second place instead of Mario Kart.  The series is now cemented as a major Nintendo franchise.
given the fact that 3mill of those 4.6mill were sold in Japan, I wouldn't say that just yet.....(obviously, it's cemented in Japan, but not anywhere else)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 03, 2006, 06:09:26 PM
From what I gather, the Opera Browser sucks. It comes with essentially a "blank" GBA cart to use as RAM, and loads incredibly slowly. I thought it was gonna be cool...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on August 03, 2006, 07:41:49 PM
Really? I heard reports just the opposite. Guess we need some actual reviews of it to know for sure...

Edit: ... Omg! Xbox makes a triumphant return! 11 units sold!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on August 04, 2006, 02:27:39 AM
I bet those 11 Xbox's sold were to people who saw the "0" in the last figures we got. They decided to buy one just to see a "1 unit sold" in the next weeks charts :p
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 04, 2006, 06:24:34 AM
Thats a good point.  PGC we need an import review of the Opera DS Browser.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 05, 2006, 04:59:52 AM
Ugh, PSP. Just when LocoRobo gets buried, we get some game that's about horses(?) tainting the charts with its PSP.

My question is why the most talented Japanese devs like Capcom, Konami, and Namco are so adamantly supporting such a platform that they have failed on time and time again.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 05, 2006, 05:04:36 AM
Who says they're failing?  Just because a game doesn't sell 100K copies in it's first week doesn't make it a failure.  If the game has a low development cost (such as a quick and dirty PS2 port or basic upgraded sequel) or if the publisher earns revenue on the project in other ways (Sony kickbacks) then the platform can be perfectly viable for certain types of games.

But have you really seen any brand new games from third parties that would require an obscene amount of time and money?  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 05, 2006, 08:58:36 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Who says they're failing?  Just because a game doesn't sell 100K copies in it's first week doesn't make it a failure.  If the game has a low development cost (such as a quick and dirty PS2 port or basic upgraded sequel) or if the publisher earns revenue on the project in other ways (Sony kickbacks) then the platform can be perfectly viable for certain types of games.

But have you really seen any brand new games from third parties that would require an obscene amount of time and money?



Currently, the PSP's bestseller is GTA: LCS. Now compare the sales of this to GTA III, Vice City, or San Andreas on Ps2 or even Xbox. And considering PSP's installed base is very similar to that of those two consoles at the time of those games coming out, you can see that the sales weren't too flattering. At that, had it been such a big success it probably wouldn't have been ported to PS2.

Similarly, some of the only good PSP games include Loco Roco, Valkyrie Profile remake, and Mega Man Powered Up.  None of these three take particularly great advantage of PSP's power. Somehow I think all three of these could have been done on DS and would have sold much, much better.

What are we even seeing from the big four Japanese devs on DS? Konami gives us our Castlevania, but other than that I'm not seeing much. Capcom hasn't done much other than Pheonix Wright (which got such a damned small run) and a few ports of Mega Man Battle Network. Namco hasn't done a damn thing other than Pac-Man sparkling innovations and the obiligitory Ridge Racer port. And Sega? They've given us another stale Sonic game and a few cel-shaded minigame collections. Not that these games were necessariyl bad, but all of these devs are supporting PSP much, much more with games that aren't really selling or getting much critical acclaim. Maybe they need to support the fanbase that wants them?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darkheart on August 05, 2006, 10:47:44 AM
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Konami gives us our Castlevania, but other than that I'm not seeing much.


True but we are getting one brand new Castlevania per year of the DS and they are solidly made.

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Capcom hasn't done much other than Pheonix Wright (which got such a damned small run) and a few ports of Mega Man Battle Network.


We are having TWO Phenoix Wright games and as far as Mega Man goes yeah we got the port of a GBA game but we are getting a BRAND NEW EXE series and the ZX title which I am sure both will turn into series.  Realize the PSP has NO exclusive Megaman series on it just ports.




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Namco hasn't done a damn thing other than Pac-Man sparkling innovations and the obiligitory Ridge Racer port.


True but we are getting Tales of the Tempest, an exclusive Tales Rpg to the Ds and if I may add one of the best looking Ds games we have out there at the moment next to FFIII.  The PSP has had only one tales game already and it was a cheapo Ps2 port.

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And Sega? They've given us another stale Sonic game and a few cel-shaded minigame collections.


Sonic Rush is NOT stale most of the people here on the forums will probably tell you that they rate that game one the best 2d Sonic games made.  I had more fun with that game then most present Sonic titles.  The last one I enjoyed prior to Sonic Rush trail back to the Genesis days.  AND Feel the Magic was something new and different from Sega.  I really supported both titles which were almost unapporpriate at times lol.  I dont know, for some reason mini games about rubbing a girls legs and helping her take off her clothes seems very non nintendo to me.   I clap my hands at Sega for trying something different than another rehashed port.

So all in all, are devs supporting Psp more?  Yes!   BUT seriously most are just straight ports.  Ds is getting all of the new exclusives which brings me to my next point.  The Ds is a hard system to port anything to.  Most devs have to create ORIGINAL content to actually make something sellable ::GASP GASP::

So all in all would I like to see more attention tossed at the DS? YES!   Do I think what they are doing is acceptable?  EH Meh. . . .  They could do better but I am happy with what they are bringing to the table.  It is far better then what they are doing for PSP.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: pirateluigi on August 05, 2006, 10:57:02 AM
I agree, Sonic Rush is anything but a stale rush job.  It may very well be the best Sonic game ever (it certainly blows away any of the 3d Sonics thus far) and is, next to Mario Kart, my favorite game to grab when I just need to kill a few minutes.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 05, 2006, 12:32:18 PM
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Originally posted by: Neodymium
Ugh, PSP. Just when LocoRobo gets buring, we get some game that's about horses(?) tainting the charts with its PSP.


Maybe now PGCers won't write off Final Furlong so quickly, eh?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 05, 2006, 01:03:12 PM
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Originally posted by: darkheart
So all in all, are devs supporting Psp more?  Yes!   BUT seriously most are just straight ports.  Ds is getting all of the new exclusives which brings me to my next point.  The Ds is a hard system to port anything to.  Most devs have to create ORIGINAL content to actually make something sellable ::GASP GASP::

So all in all would I like to see more attention tossed at the DS? YES!   Do I think what they are doing is acceptable?  EH Meh. . . .  They could do better but I am happy with what they are bringing to the table.  It is far better then what they are doing for PSP.


The things you point out are right, this is a paradigm shift underway. I think PSP is going to see the N64 effect even more quickly in its lifetime than did N64 or especially GCN, and fewer and fewer games will be announced for it.

I will also agree that they're not making as much quality stuff on PSP, but I see it as a waste of thier resources when they could be making more stellar DS games for a huge and ever-expanding fanbase.

I think my problem is that they haven't done it fast enough.

Edit: Kairon, I never wrote off a good game that's unusual. It's the PSP-ness that I condemn.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 05, 2006, 04:35:05 PM
As long as the PSP's software tie-in ratio sucks balls and continues to suck balls, devs are going to keep moving away from it. Any dev still making games is either porting games for dirt cheap or having money hats tossed at them by Sony.

Also, I can't help but believe that the PSP's poor performance is likewise making potential PS3 devs have second thoughts: Sony is pushing both consoles as "multipurpose entertainment devices" instead of game machines, which should make any developer a little leery given that they're trying to make games for the thing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 05, 2006, 06:17:00 PM
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They've given us another stale Sonic game
Like the others, I take issue with what. If you don't like Rush, you don't like Sonic..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 06, 2006, 07:43:03 PM
Sony's going to lose publishers like Activision and THQ in favor of publishers like...Columbia Pictures and Geffen Records...trading games for movies and music, I thought I was going somewhere.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 07, 2006, 01:24:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Sony's going to lose publishers like Activision and THQ in favor of publishers like...Columbia Pictures and Geffen Records...trading games for movies and music, I thought I was going somewhere.


Er, maybe, but if the PSP is any indicator of what will happen, they'll lose those publishers, too.

Some studios scaled back but most axed UMD support entirely, saying the discs just weren't selling at all and as such they couldn't justify even bothering to make them anymore. Likewise, major retailers are either scaling back or dropping UMD, with Wal-Mart dropping them completely.

I don't see why BluRay will be any different as both BluRay and UMD have just about everything in common: they both only work on a system no one owns, they both have questionable support (and UMD support was actually better), and they're both unnecessary.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 07, 2006, 01:28:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Sony's going to lose publishers like Activision and THQ in favor of publishers like...Columbia Pictures and Geffen Records...trading games for movies and music, I thought I was going somewhere.


Er, maybe, but if the PSP is any indicator of what will happen, they'll lose those publishers, too.

Some studios scaled back but most axed UMD support entirely, saying the discs just weren't selling at all and as such they couldn't justify even bothering to make them anymore. Likewise, major retailers are either scaling back or dropping UMD, with Wal-Mart dropping them completely.

I don't see why BluRay will be any different as both BluRay and UMD have just about everything in common: they both only work on a system no one owns, they both have questionable support (and UMD support was actually better), and they're both unnecessary.



Blu-Ray is in even worse shape than Betamax was. At least Beta had better quality than did VHS, but BluRay costs more and has worse quality than HD-DVD. HD-DVD may have less room, but how many yottabytes does one movie need?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on August 07, 2006, 01:44:19 PM
Actually, the more the merrier. Compressions actually downgrades the quality of the video. Here's an example. You know MP3's right? Same situation.

Once terabyte DVD's come out, compression will be a thing of the past.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 07, 2006, 01:55:03 PM
Nah.  Without compression you couldn't have all of your special features.  Not to mention they'll find a new way to record that will use all that space and more.  Why?  Because Analog has infinite number of pixels.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SixthAngel on August 07, 2006, 06:36:07 PM
Compression may technically reduce quality but if my eyes can't tell why should I care.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 07, 2006, 06:45:21 PM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
Compression may technically reduce quality but if my eyes can't tell why should I care.


Very true.

I believe the resolution on the human eye needs to be factored into the equation here.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on August 07, 2006, 07:06:50 PM
Perhaps Sony will start selling replacement eyes...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on August 08, 2006, 09:02:46 AM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Perhaps Sony will start selling replacement eyes...
because we all need DRM right inside our bodies...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on August 08, 2006, 09:37:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Neodymium
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Sony's going to lose publishers like Activision and THQ in favor of publishers like...Columbia Pictures and Geffen Records...trading games for movies and music, I thought I was going somewhere.


Er, maybe, but if the PSP is any indicator of what will happen, they'll lose those publishers, too.

Some studios scaled back but most axed UMD support entirely, saying the discs just weren't selling at all and as such they couldn't justify even bothering to make them anymore. Likewise, major retailers are either scaling back or dropping UMD, with Wal-Mart dropping them completely.

I don't see why BluRay will be any different as both BluRay and UMD have just about everything in common: they both only work on a system no one owns, they both have questionable support (and UMD support was actually better), and they're both unnecessary.



Blu-Ray is in even worse shape than Betamax was. At least Beta had better quality than did VHS, but BluRay costs more and has worse quality than HD-DVD. HD-DVD may have less room, but how many yottabytes does one movie need?


Of course, you aren't factoring in the fact that the only bluray player on the market has faulty video decompression algorithms in it and that the first spec sheet had to use mpeg2 video compression whereas starting with discs releasing September and later will use VC1 compression and much MUCH better players will be available such as the Pioneer Elite BD player.

This fight has just started.  Bluray has more studios behind it and more hardware companies making the players than hd-dvd.  They won't start jumping ship until long after all the bugs have been worked out.  This fight will last at least another 2-3 years I think and eventually make both formats obsolete anyways.

The fact, the umd format was fated to fail because it could only be played on a psp, whereas bluray and hd-dvd will be played on game consoles, stand alone players and in computers.  Support will not waiver as fast as it did for umd.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 08, 2006, 04:39:23 PM
HD DVD will absolutely dominate Blue-ray, by it's branding alone. Think about it, DVD is the standard now, the next step is the progression of DVD, when a TYPICAL consumer is looking to step up to the next format, they're going to think "what in the mother f*** is a Blue-ray? Do I need a Blue-ray TV? I'm an idiot", and instantly recognize HD DVD as High Definition DVD, to go with their HDTV.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ages on August 08, 2006, 05:29:02 PM
Damn this is topic is off course...Guess I'd better be cool and contribute to the madness.

Currently, I'd imagine HD-DVD is positioned to be a much more likely successor to DVD.  Not only does it have current branding with the "DVD" name, but current players cost half as much as Blu Ray players.  Which will a consumer choose when the movies cost the same amount, yet the players are differentiated by $500?

Either way, the format wars will be a dud.  There won't be a winner as consumers just switched to DVD's a couple of years ago.  VHS lasted 20 something years, and people just got finished purchasing all their old movies on the new format.  Most do not have the equipment to take advantage of the extra features either way.  The DVD will be replaced by holographic tech like the HMD tech.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 08, 2006, 06:54:17 PM
I think the branding hurt it more then it helps especially know.  When you go and ask about HD-DVD player you have to Specify "A player that plays the new HD-DVD format"  like that.  Even then people get confused.  The Term HD-DVD player was already used for DVD players that upscaled and the like.  It's an excepted term.  Sounds good on paper but Blu-ray you either know what I'm talking about or you huh and I explain it to you.  No ambiquity everyones on the same page there.  I personally was surprised by this observation.  Especially when I found it didn't matter how technoliterate you were for the ambiquity to be their.  On a related note if they keep messing up players or bring over bad transfers and have no movies where it matters, I'm looking at both of you HD-DVD and Blu-ray.  They might as well just stop know and wait.  Film transfer isn't a new art they should be able to do better.  I'm holding off verdict till I see gen 2 players.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on August 08, 2006, 07:10:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Ages
Either way, the format wars will be a dud.  There won't be a winner as consumers just switched to DVD's a couple of years ago.  VHS lasted 20 something years, and people just got finished purchasing all their old movies on the new format.  Most do not have the equipment to take advantage of the extra features either way.  The DVD will be replaced by holographic tech like the HMD tech.


Quoted for truth. Honestly, did none of the industries learn anything from the Laserdisc situation? (...ignoring Japan, where they took off due to being cheaper than VHS tapes)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 08, 2006, 08:23:53 PM
What is a bluray doing on a store shelf? It should be in an aquarium where it belongs!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 08, 2006, 09:23:42 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution What is a bluray doing on a store shelf? It should be in an aquarium where it belongs!


It can share a tank with the Nintendo dolphin.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 09, 2006, 03:04:02 AM
Australian Software Sales Charts for August 6th, maybe this thread will get back on track? Highly unlikely though.

XBOX360 just isnt selling here, most games (apart from day 1 new releases) are already available for $79 AUD, about $50 USD,  (at JB HiFi) and has achieved what the GCN could not do in  killing XBOX sales as well.

I believe DS first/second shipment of DS-Lite sold out, as EB games are advertising New shipment of DS-Lite has arrived, DS-Lite back in stock. This is also supported by the fact that older DS titles are climbing back up. This plus the fact that 2 titles are still in the top 10 after many weeks is amazing for this country. And EB are also moving DS to the front of the store.





 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 09, 2006, 06:55:49 AM
Behold the power of cheese!...er I mean the DS!

Any Australians care to comment on Nintendo's marketing for the DS down there?  Is the advertising getting better or is the DS succeeding purely on its own awesomeness?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 09, 2006, 11:08:58 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Behold the power of cheese!...er I mean the DS!

Any Australians care to comment on Nintendo's marketing for the DS down there?  Is the advertising getting better or is the DS succeeding purely on its own awesomeness?


DS-Lite and Brain Training were advertised extensively in peak hr adult TV and also during breakfast shows for about 2 weeks. All adds have now stopped, I think Nintendo wanted to get the message out to Adults that they have games for them.



Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 09, 2006, 05:09:40 PM
"for about 2 weeks"

THIS IS EXACTLY THE CHEAP, SINGLE-SHOUT-OUT APPROACH NINTENDO USED WHEN ADVERTISING GAMECUBE GAMES.  NO MORE ADS?  NO MORE AWARENESS.

FAILURE IS AT HAND
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shorty McNostril on August 09, 2006, 05:51:29 PM
May i ask aussie-dude, what city do you live in, melbourne or sydney i assume? at least youve seen an ad for a while. I live in north-queensland and i have NEVER seen an ad for DS or GC for ANYTHING.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 09, 2006, 07:21:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Shorty McNostril
May i ask aussie-dude, what city do you live in, melbourne or sydney i assume? at least youve seen an ad for a while. I live in north-queensland and i have NEVER seen an ad for DS or GC for ANYTHING.


Im in Melbourne, its in my profile

GO MELBOURNE STORM!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 09, 2006, 07:32:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
"for about 2 weeks"

THIS IS EXACTLY THE CHEAP, SINGLE-SHOUT-OUT APPROACH NINTENDO USED WHEN ADVERTISING GAMECUBE GAMES.  NO MORE ADS?  NO MORE AWARENESS.

FAILURE IS AT HAND


Not exactly, we got close to zero adds here fore the gamecube. There may have been one or two during some kids shows, but I never saw them.
The adss they did for the DS would not have been cheap. Sponsering the top quiz show at 7PM for 2 weeks would be expensive.





Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2006, 09:18:52 AM
Media Create: July 31st - August 6th

Software:
1. (PSP, Bandai Namco) SD Gundam G Generation Portable - 155,634
2. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 98,038 / 2,614,228
3. (PS2, Sega Sammy) Jissen Pachislot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken SE - 82,556
4. (DS, Bandai Namco) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini - 75,853 / 268,311
5. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Basket 3 on 3 - 48,564 / 159,273
6. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 48,206 / 2,925,847
7. (DS, Nintendo) Shaberu! DS Oryouri Nabi - 45,846 / 233,703
8. (PS2, Capcom) SENGOKU BASARA 2 - 40,094 / 175,943
9. (GBA, Nintendo) Rhythm Tengoku - 37,473
10. (PS2, Atlus)) Growlancer V Generations - 37,467
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11. Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 2nd Kiss - 36968
12. Brain Age
13. Animal Crossing Wild World
14. Star Fox Command - 28358 / 27%
15. English Training DS
16. Ultimate Ghouls and Ghosts - 21321
17. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13
18. Kamaitachi no Yoru x 3
19. Atsumare! Power Pro Kun no DS Koushien - 18417
20. Mario Kart DS
21. (PS2) Battle Stadium DON
22. Digimon Story
23. Tetris DS
24. Monster Hunter Portable (PSP The Best) - 10606
25. Pokemon Ranger
26. Kinnikuman Max Gran Prix MAX
27. Persona 3
28. Mushiking Greatest Champion e-no Michi 2
29. Derby Stallion P
30. True Crime New York City
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XX. PSP Carnage Heart Portable - 3915
XX. PS2 Wizardary Gaiden - 3610
XX. 360 Bomberman Act:Zero - 2594
XX. PSP Every Extend Extra - 2458
XX. PSP Locoroco - 7672??

Hardware:
Nintendo DS Lite - 163.572 | 3.533.399
PSP - 49.352 | 1.116.075
PlayStation2 - 25.987 | 882.231
Game Boy Advance SP - 2.784 | 179.598
Game Boy Micro - 1.928 | 111.444
Xbox 360 - 1.389 | 64.783
Nintendo DS - 1.159 | 950.903
Gamecube - 904 | 60.417
Game Boy Advance - 34 | 2.956
Xbox - 14 | 1.624
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PSP finally breaks back into the #1 spot but NSMB finally broke its 100k a week sales streak by dipping under 100k for the first time since release. Starfox only sells through 27% of the shipment falling very very short of 100k units sold.
NSMB is set to break 3mil in about 4-5 weeks and BT2 is set to do it in about 2-3 weeks. AC continues to fall but Tamagochi is til selling strong.

p.s. DS Lite continues to sell out every shipment in Japan, Nintendo cannot produce enough units fast enough.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 10, 2006, 10:47:48 AM
I thought PSP sales would see a bit more of a spike due to Gundam's high sales, but I guess not.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2006, 11:45:42 AM
Sales by starved PSP owners do not expand its market.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2006, 06:23:59 PM
July NPD Software & Hardware Sales

July Hardware Sales

NDS = 377,000
PS2 = 241,000
360 = 206,000
GBA = 163,000
PSP = 161,000
GCN = 44,000
Xbox = 12,000

July Top 25 Software Sales

US Top 25 Videogame Titles
Rank Title Publisher

Rank Title Publisher
1 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 07 Electronic Arts
2 360 NCAA FOOTBALL 07 Electronic Arts
3 NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS Nintendo
4 XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 07 Electronic Arts
5 360 CHROMEHOUNDS Sega
6 360 LORD OF THE RINGS: BATTLE FOR THE MIDDLE EARTH 2 Electronic Arts
7 360 PREY Take 2 Interactive
8 PS2 GUITAR HERO BUNDLE Activision
9 PS2 CARS THQ
10 PS2 NARUTO: ULTIMATE NINJA Namco
11 PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES Take 2 Interactive
12 GBA CARS THQ
13 PS2 FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 Electronic Arts
14 360 ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION Take 2 Interactive
15 360 FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 Electronic Arts
16 360 TOM CLANCY'S GHOST RECON: ADVANCED WARFIGHTER Ubi Soft
17 GCN CARS THQ
18 NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN IN MINUTES A DAY Nintendo
19 PS2 NFL HEAD COACH Electronic Arts
20 360 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 Electronic Arts
21 NDS BIG BRAIN ACADEMY Nintendo
22 PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS II Square Enix
23 360 OVER G FIGHTERS Ubi Soft
24 360 CALL OF DUTY 2 Activision
25 PS2 PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE LEGEND OF JACK SPARROW Bethesda

Top 25:

10 360
9 PS2
3 NDS
1 XBX
1 GCN
1 GBA
0 PSP

Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS
Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales.


NCAA (all versions) = 971,000
Cars (all versions) = 418,000
Prey (360) = 132,000


Overall hardware sales were up 25% y/y counting current and next gen consoles and handheld sales. 128-bit hardware sales were down 33% y/y in July. PS2 unit sales were down 22% y/y, GCN down 13% and Xbox down 47%. This brings the install base of 128-bit consoles to approximately 60 million in the U.S. The Xbox 360 sold 207K units versus 277K in June, with a strong life-to-date tie ratio of 4.61. Combined Xbox and Xbox 360 software increased 44% y/y. We expect Xbox 360 hardware sales to pick up in August with the release of EA’s Madden NFL 2007.  

edit: For those that don't know, NPD #'s are ranked by $$$ made by sale, so that would mean that NSMB DS costing $34.99 in 3rd place vs NCAA 360 @ $59.99 in second place and NCAA PS2 @ $49.99 at 1st place, more than likely puts NSMB in 1st place by units sold since it cost $25.00 less that the 360 game and is only one place lower in the rankings.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 10, 2006, 08:29:08 PM
I find it so funny that out of all the PSPs that have sold not ONE game made it on that top 25 list!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 11, 2006, 05:15:39 AM
Yahoo! The success has continued!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 11, 2006, 05:50:46 AM
DS on top?  360 STILL failing to outsell PS2?  It's hard to look at these facts and not think, "Wii is going to own."  How is Sony going to sell any PS3's if Xbox 360 is already too expensive for people?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on August 11, 2006, 10:38:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1edit: For those that don't know, NPD #'s are ranked by $$$ made by sale, so that would mean that NSMB DS costing $34.99 in 3rd place vs NCAA 360 @ $59.99 in second place and NCAA PS2 @ $49.99 at 1st place, more than likely puts NSMB in 1st place by units sold since it cone $25.00 less that the 360 game and is only on place lower in the rankings.


Makes you also wonder how many copies of Brain Age sold with it being only $20 srp.  Doesn't the number of units sold get posted at some point?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 11, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
Quote

How is Sony going to sell any PS3's if Xbox 360 is already too expensive for people?


Simple, it plays PS2 games. Its also possible (but less likely due to price of Wii) that the PS2 has such momentum that it will still continue to outsell all next gen systems. I think Sony is hoping that is the case until they can reduce the PS3 to a reasonable price.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 11, 2006, 12:28:33 PM
Hence God of War 2 is a PS2 game and not a PS3 game.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 11, 2006, 12:38:07 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1edit: For those that don't know, NPD #'s are ranked by $$$ made by sale, so that would mean that NSMB DS costing $34.99 in 3rd place vs NCAA 360 @ $59.99 in second place and NCAA PS2 @ $49.99 at 1st place, more than likely puts NSMB in 1st place by units sold since it cone $25.00 less that the 360 game and is only on place lower in the rankings.


Makes you also wonder how many copies of Brain Age sold with it being only $20 srp.  Doesn't the number of units sold get posted at some point?


118,000 to be exact.

Top 25 Games by sales

1. PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 07 492k
2. 360 NCAA FOOTBALL 07 332k
3. NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS 300k
4. PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY C 183k
5. XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 07 145k
6. PS2 CARS 121k
7. NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN 120k
8. NDS BIG BRAIN ACADEMY 118k
9. GBA CARS 115k
10. 360 CHROMEHOUNDS 111k
11. 360 LORD OF THE RINGS: BATTLE F 108k
12. PS2 FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 105k
13. PS2 NARUTO: ULTIMATE NINJA 104k
14. 360 PREY 103k
15. PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II 82k
16. PS2 GUITAR HERO BUNDLE 80k
17. PS2 GOD OF WAR 74k
18. GCN CARS 65k
19. PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDRE 63k
20. PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB ED REM 61k
21. PS2 NFL HEAD COACH 60k
22. GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 59k
23. PS2 PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: T 56k
24. NDS MARIO KART 53k
25. NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD 51k


Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem of Darcness on August 11, 2006, 06:40:10 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Aussiedude
Quote

How is Sony going to sell any PS3's if Xbox 360 is already too expensive for people?


Simple, it plays PS2 games. Its also possible (but less likely due to price of Wii) that the PS2 has such momentum that it will still continue to outsell all next gen systems. I think Sony is hoping that is the case until they can reduce the PS3 to a reasonable price.


Yeah it plays PS2 games but if you already own a PS2 and want to have access to your game saves you have to buy a seperate adapter. I mean you think for $600 you wouldn't need a seperate adapter....but this is Sony we are talking about.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 11, 2006, 08:52:50 PM
more #'s for those that are looking

PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 07 492k
360 NCAA FOOTBALL 07 332k
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS 300k
PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY C 183k
XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 07 145k
PS2 CARS 121k
NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN 120k
NDS BIG BRAIN ACADEMY 118k
GBA CARS 115k
360 CHROMEHOUNDS 111k
360 LORD OF THE RINGS: BATTLE F 108k
PS2 FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 105k
PS2 NARUTO: ULTIMATE NINJA 104k
360 PREY 103k
PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II 82k
PS2 GUITAR HERO BUNDLE 80k
PS2 GOD OF WAR 74k
GCN CARS 65k
PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDRE 63k
PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB ED REM 61k
PS2 NFL HEAD COACH 60k
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 59k
PS2 PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: T 56k
NDS MARIO KART 53k
NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD 51k
~ >50k above - <50k below ~
PS2 FIFA SOCCER 06 49k
PS2 MLB '06: THE SHOW 49k
PSP NCAA FOOTBALL 07 49k
NDS CARS 48k
GBA POKEMON EMERALD 48k
PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS II 46k
360 ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION 45k
PS2 GRAN TURISMO 4 44k
PS2 HITMAN: BLOOD MONEY 44k
PS2 LEGO STAR WARS 43k
PSP VALKYRIE PROFILE: LENNETH 42k
360 FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 42k
360 TOM CLANCY'S GHOST RECON: A 42k
GBA PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: D 40k
PSP PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: D 40k
DS NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRI 40k
XBX FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 39k
PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS 39k
360 FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 39k
XBX HALO 2 38k
360 OVER G FIGHTERS 38k
360 CALL OF DUTY 2 38k
XBX STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II 37k
GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND 36k
NDS METROID PRIME: HUNTERS 36k
PS2 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB 36k
GCN NARUTO: CLASH OF NINJA 35k
XBX GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDRE 35k
XBX CARS 35k
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 35k
PS2 SUPER DRAGON BALL Z 34k
PS2 MLB SLUGFEST 2006 34k
NDS PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: D 33k
PSP GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY C 33k
360 HITMAN: BLOOD MONEY 33k
PSP TEKKEN: DARK RESURRECTION 33k
PS2 JAWS UNLEASHED 33k
GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE 33k
NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIE 32k
GCN LEGO STAR WARS 32k
PS2 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL 32k
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 32k
PSP CARS 30k
GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 30k
GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA 30k
GBA DOGZ 30k
GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 30k
NDS NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRI 30k
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 14, 2006, 03:01:22 AM
DS is only having it's moment in the USA because people are trading in their old DS's. If anything these new US statistics show a sales DECLINE for the DS as only about a million people still care enough about DS to keep up with the new unit.

Has anyone else noticed the steady increase in PSP sales in Japan? It's at over 50k per week now. HOW? A month or so ago it was selling less than 20k, what's changed? Nothing in the PSP world. It's Nintendo who are KILLING THEMSELVES by purposely undershipping DS's to build fake "sold out" hype, people are fed up with the Nintendo BS and just buying PSPs now. The paradigm shift is upon us and nothing can change that. Everyone knows the DS has the best games, but people are STILL buying PSPs. It's the general attitude of Nintendo that's scaring off consumers. Here's a tip Nintendo, people aren't going to keep buying your products for the name alone, there's no way in hell this fake strategy is going to get Wii attention, if anything it's turning more and more people away, if you look at the other system that is steadily increasing in sales, Xbox 360. The decline in Xbox 1 sales reinforces the point that people are now hopping on the Xbox 360 bandwagon, and the only people Nintendo can blame for that is themselves. Not only has this affected Nintendo but it's dragging down the entire game industry over there when people can't even get what they want, which effects the worldwide entertainment industry as a whole which pretty much makes Nintendo the central cause of all the violence and corruption  in the world. Sad times for Nintendo fans.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 14, 2006, 06:36:24 AM
My Original DS works perfectly fine and the Lite doesn't have enough change to justify the cost.  That being said not releasing more variety of colors and version in different territories is a stupid move.  In fact most of the moves NOA have made since Reggie has come on board has gone from initial Reggie good to bad.  Just plain bad.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 14, 2006, 08:02:44 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
DS is only having it's moment in the USA because people are trading in their old DS's. If anything these new US statistics show a sales DECLINE for the DS as only about a million people still care enough about DS to keep up with the new unit.

Has anyone else noticed the steady increase in PSP sales in Japan? It's at over 50k per week now. HOW? A month or so ago it was selling less than 20k, what's changed? Nothing in the PSP world. It's Nintendo who are KILLING THEMSELVES by purposely undershipping DS's to build fake "sold out" hype, people are fed up with the Nintendo BS and just buying PSPs now. The paradigm shift is upon us and nothing can change that. Everyone knows the DS has the best games, but people are STILL buying PSPs. It's the general attitude of Nintendo that's scaring off consumers. Here's a tip Nintendo, people aren't going to keep buying your products for the name alone, there's no way in hell this fake strategy is going to get Wii attention, if anything it's turning more and more people away, if you look at the other system that is steadily increasing in sales, Xbox 360. The decline in Xbox 1 sales reinforces the point that people are now hopping on the Xbox 360 bandwagon, and the only people Nintendo can blame for that is themselves. Not only has this affected Nintendo but it's dragging down the entire game industry over there when people can't even get what they want, which effects the worldwide entertainment industry as a whole which pretty much makes Nintendo the central cause of all the violence and corruption  in the world. Sad times for Nintendo fans.



You have got to be kidding me. This isn't even like GCN and Xbox where it was a narrow margin. The PSP increase is solely the result of thjat #1 game, and maybe LocoRoco and a small amount of worthwhile games. As soon as they fade into memory the PSP will too. You're acting as if DS was done, yet it still outsells PSP by a 3 to 1 margin. That's way more of a lead than Genesis had on SNES even in the dark days of the '91 holiday season.

People are still buying PSPs because it's for the lowbrow softcore gamer, and while that is the major demogrphic in the US it is not in Japan or even Europe, and I assure you Nintendo will continue its total domination in the handheld market with a far more stellar lineup than PSP has to offer.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2006, 08:12:19 AM
I think you may need to dig your sarcasm trap a little deeper, Mario...Too many bodies in it!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 14, 2006, 08:26:00 AM
It can't solely be the result of that game, that is not a system seller, and that game wasn't there last week when PSP was still steadily increasing, and it can't have increased by 30k from Loco Roco when Loco Roco only sold about 7,000 at the same time. We can only hope Nintendo have been saving up a lot of DS stock for the FF3 and Pokemon releases, otherwise the future of Nintendo is looking VERY glum and they only have themselves to blame.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on August 14, 2006, 08:57:42 AM
Someone should compile all the sarcastic posts from Mario and then the people who reply to him as if he was serious...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 14, 2006, 09:06:56 AM
Jokes aren't funny without a straight man.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 14, 2006, 09:47:24 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I think you may need to dig your sarcasm trap a little deeper, Mario...Too many bodies in it!
Um, what Mario said wasn't sarcastic.  It might not have been truthful, but it certainly wasn't sarcastic.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 14, 2006, 11:02:24 AM
If sarcasm is sarcasm, there should be anything to indicate that it is.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2006, 11:58:32 AM
Um, it's sarcasm...And the indication of it being sarcasm is that his posts here in the Sales thread are completely opposite from his posts everywhere else...(Plus the fact that we laughed over this thread this morning... )
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 14, 2006, 12:16:53 PM
<nerd> I think vudu is trying to say that sarcasm, by definition, belittles its target, and since Mario isn't trying to make anyone in particular look like a fool, he's merely being ironic.  I think it's debatable that Mario is trying to insult Nintendo's critics as a group, but that may be stretching the definition.</nerd>  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 14, 2006, 12:22:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
DS is only having it's moment in the USA because people are trading in their old DS's. Not sarcasm.  He's kidding, but it's not sarcasm.

If anything these new US statistics show a sales DECLINE for the DS as only about a million people still care enough about DS to keep up with the new unit. Okay, this might be considered sarcasm.

Has anyone else noticed the steady increase in PSP sales in Japan? It's at over 50k per week now. HOW? A month or so ago it was selling less than 20k, what's changed? Nothing in the PSP world. All true.  I realize that Mario's not really worried because they difference between DS and PSP sales are still huge, but nothing in this is sarcasm.

It's Nintendo who are KILLING THEMSELVES by purposely undershipping DS's to build fake "sold out" hype, people are fed up with the Nintendo BS and just buying PSPs now. Again, might be considered sarcasm, but not really.

The paradigm shift is upon us and nothing can change that. Everyone knows the DS has the best games, but people are STILL buying PSPs. It's the general attitude of Nintendo that's scaring off consumers. Not sarcasm.

Here's a tip Nintendo, people aren't going to keep buying your products for the name alone, there's no way in hell this fake strategy is going to get Wii attention, if anything it's turning more and more people away, if you look at the other system that is steadily increasing in sales, Xbox 360. Okay, so this is sarcasm.  Sarcasm +1.

The decline in Xbox 1 sales reinforces the point that people are now hopping on the Xbox 360 bandwagon, and the only people Nintendo can blame for that is themselves. Not only has this affected Nintendo but it's dragging down the entire game industry over there when people can't even get what they want, which effects the worldwide entertainment industry as a whole which pretty much makes Nintendo the central cause of all the violence and corruption  in the world. Sad times for Nintendo fans. Again, might be considered sarcasm, but not really.
Sarcasm definition.
Quote

1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
synonym see WIT
EDIT:  PartyBear +1.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2006, 12:28:13 PM
His targets are the people who take his hilariously off-key "rants" seriously...But yeah, whatever, there's no point arguing about this when you can just not fall into his trap and have fun with it...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 14, 2006, 12:39:53 PM
Edit: Post removed for suspicion of being off topic.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 16, 2006, 08:08:30 AM
Enterbrain Charts:

this week(last week)title(system, developer)

1. ( 3 ) New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo)
2. ( 4 ) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi Gohi-Kini (NDS, Bandai Namco)
3. (NEU) Melty Blood: Act Cadenza (PS2, Ecole)
4. ( 5 ) Shaberu! DS Oryouri Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
5. ( 7 ) Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu: Motto Nou o Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo)
6. ( 1 ) SD Gundam G Generation Portable (PSP, Bandai Namco)
7. ( 11) Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu: Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (NDS, Nintendo)
8. ( 2 ) Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken SE (PS2, Sega)
9. ( 8 ) Mario Basket 3 on 3 (NDS, Nintendo)
10.( 17) Animal Forest Wild World (NDS, Nintendo)

Looks like both brain trainings make it back into the Top 10 along with AC:WW.
Navi cookbook also managed to hang on with a Top 5 spot with
NSMB taking back it throne at the top of the chart with a #1 spot once again.

Overall: 7 DS games in Top 10
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 16, 2006, 09:01:34 AM
Top selling games in Japan for first half of 2006

Of the top 100 games (in units) for the first half of 2006

44 are PS2
30 are DS
11 are PSP
8 are GBA
3 are GCN
1 is Xbox 360
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2006, 09:08:26 AM
The PS2 beat the combined might of Nintendo.  The PSP tied with the Combine might of the Last gen Nintendo Systems.   The 360 was schooled by the GCN.  Sony beat everybody...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 16, 2006, 09:36:02 AM
Quote

Sony beat everybody...
Actually, this is something I found interesting.  (Note, I didn't put this together, so the math might be off.)

PS2
Total games on list: 44
Total units sold: 10,492,475
Avg units sold per title: 238,465

DS
Total games on list: 30
Total units sold: 14,043,151
Avg units sold per title: 468,105

So DS sold more games than PS2 even though the number of games were smaller.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 16, 2006, 09:39:31 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
Top selling games in Japan for first half of 2006

Of the top 100 games (in units) for the first half of 2006

44 are PS2
30 are DS
11 are PSP
8 are GBA
3 are GCN
1 is Xbox 360
44+30+11+8+3+1= 97... where are the other 3 games?
I demand a recount!!!

recount results:
DS has 31 of those games not 30
leaving 2 unaccounted for.

19 & 90 aren't console games so now that = 100
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2006, 09:47:31 AM
Interesting.  But even with the Recount PS2 still beat Nintendo by 1... Oh wait 19 isn't that for the DS?  That would make them even but then the PSP pushes them over.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 16, 2006, 09:56:12 AM
Quote

44+30+11+8+3+1= 97... where are the other 3 games?
I demand a recount!!!
Yeah, I noticed that, too.  But I didn't want to count the DS and PS2 games myself.

19 is Tamagotchi Corner Shop, which I'm pretty sure is a DS title.
90 is Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Ore no Sora, which sounds like a PS2 title.  But who knows on this one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 16, 2006, 11:00:29 AM
Considering that 7 of the top 10 and 15 of the top 30 are DS titles (3 and 12 are PS2, respectively) I'd say it's Nintendo for the win.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 16, 2006, 08:46:30 PM
3. (NEU) Melty Blood: Act Cadenza (PS2, Ecole)

Hey Lik-Sang, where the hell is MY copy?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on August 17, 2006, 11:33:48 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
90 is Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Ore no Sora, which sounds like a PS2 title.  But who knows on this one.


Google proclaims you correct:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-46-49-en-70-17jg.html
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2006, 11:41:48 PM
Media Create Sales: August 7-13

Software
1. NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 117,706 / 2,731,934
2. NDS Tamagotchi Shop 2 (Bandai) - 66,564 / 334,875
3. PS2 Melty Blood: Act Cadenza (Ecole) - 64,980 / *NEW*
4. NDS More Brain Training (Nintendo) - 59,585 / 2,985,432
5. NDS Cooking Navi (Nintendo) - 57,257 / 290,960
6. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 44,201 / 3,077,295
7. NDS Brain Training (Nintendo) - 38,954 / 2,688,146
8. PSP SD Gundam Generation G Portable (Bandai) - 36,592 / 192,227
9. PS2 Fist of the North Star Pachislot (Sega) - 33,951 / 116,507
10. NDS Kirarin * Revolution: Kira Kira Idol Audition (Konami) - 33,332 / *NEW*
~
11. NDS Mario Basket 3-on-3 (Nintendo)
12. NDS English Training (Nintendo)
13. PS2 Sengoku Basara 2 (Capcom)
14. GBA Rhythm Tengoku (Nintendo)
15. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 (Konami)
16. NDS Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
17. NDS Star Fox Command (Nintendo)
18. NDS Tetris DS (Nintendo)
19. NDS Fist of the North Star Pachislot SE (Sega)
20. NDS Atsumare! Power Pro Kun no DS Koushien (Konami)
21. PSP Fist of the North Star Pachislot SE (Sega)
22. NDS Digimon Story (Bandai)
23. PS2 Battle Stadium D.O.N (Bandai)
24. PS2 Kamaitachi no Yoru x 3 (Sega)
25. NDS Pokemon Ranger (Nintendo)
26. PSP Monster Hunter Portable -Greatest Hits- (Capcom)
27. NDS Mushiking Greatest Champion e-no Michi 2 (Sega)
28. NDS Big Brain Academy / Yawaraka Atama Juku (Nintendo)
29. PS2 True Crime Urban Chaos (Activision)
30. NDS Puzzle Series Vol.3 SUDOKU (Hudson)
~
31.) PS2 Winning Eleven 10
32.) PS2 Persona 3
33.) PSP Ghouls 'N Ghosts
34.) DS Naruto RPG 3
35.) DS Kanji Training
36.) PS2 Maid Clothes & the Machine Gun (D3 Publisher)
37.) PS2 Namco fighting game
38.) DS Project Hacker
39.) GC Battle Stadium D.O.N.
40.) PS2 Some Sony game
41.) PS2 Growlanser V
42.) PSP LocoRoco (including the bundle)
43.) DS Rockman ZX
44.) PSP Some Sony game
45.) PS2 2nd Kiss (Konami)
46.) PSP Derby Stallion
47.) DS Clubhouse Games
48.) DS Phoenix Wright (best price)
49.) PSP Bleach: Heat the Soul 3
50.) PSP Tekken


complete Nintendomination!!!
DS = 19 of 30
DS + GBA = 2/3 of the Top 30  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 17, 2006, 11:45:23 PM
DSL - 196,719
PSP - 41,289
PS2 - 26,547
GBASP - 3,051
GBM - 2,031
Xbox360 - 1,204
GC - 940
DS - 934
GBA - 23
Xbox - 6

DS Lite up, PSP down. All is returning to normal.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2006, 12:04:57 AM
Xbox is also down and GC is up, this battle for 2nd place isn't over yet

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2006 Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 196,719 | 163,572 | 3,730,118
2.) PlayStation Portable - 41,289 | 49,352 | 1,157,364
3.) PlayStation 2 - 26,547 | 25,987 | 908,778
4.) Game Boy Advance SP - 3,051 | 2,784 | 182,649
5.) Game Boy micro - 2,031 | 1,928 | 113,475
6.) Xbox360 - 1,204 | 1,389 | 65,987
7.) GameCube - 940 | 904 | 61,357
8.) Nintendo DS - 934 | 1,159 | 951,837
9.) Game Boy Advance - 23 | 34 | 2,979
10.) Xbox - 6 | 14 | 1,630
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 18, 2006, 01:22:50 AM
36.) PS2 Maid Clothes & the Machine Gun (D3 Publisher)

Wait, WHAT? Oh, this. Strange, Lik-Sang doesn't list that. I've seen a link to a GAF post complaining about the game, he says there's nothing but fighting in there but then forgets to describe the fighting itself. That's like complaining about the storyline of Serious Sam!

40.) PS2 Some Sony game

Best. Title. Ever.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2006, 10:12:25 PM
Media Create Sales: August 14th - 20th  

Software:
1. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 103,774 / 2,835,708
2. (DS, Bandai Namco) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini - 65,554 / 400,429
3. (DS, Nintendo) DS Cuisine Navigator - 55,759 / 346,719
4. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Training - 45,978 / 3,031,411
5. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 41,813 / 3,119,108
6. (PS2, Daito Giken) Daito Giken Pachislot Hihouden - 39,070
7. (GBA, Nintendo) Rhythm Tengoku - 29,911 / 88,089
8. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 26,791 / 781,110
9. (PSP, Bandai Namco) SD Gundam G-Generation Portable - 25,716 / 217,943
10. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Training - 25,139 / 2,713,284
~
11. Mario Kart DS
12. Pachislot: Fist of the North Star SE (PS2)
13. English Training DS
14. Sengoku BASARA 2
15. Kirarin Star Revolution Kirakira Idol Audition (DS)
16. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13
17. Atsumare! Power Pro Kun no DS Koushien
18. Mario Basket 3 on 3
19. Star Fox Command
20. Digimon Story
21. Melty Blood Act Cadeza
22. Battle Stadium DON (PS2)
23. Pokemon Ranger
24. Mushiking Greatest Champion e-no Michi 2
25. Monster Hunter Portable The Best
26. Kamaitachi no Yoru x 3
27. Everyone's DS Seminar Kanpeki Kanji
28. Big Brain Academy
29. True Crime New York City
30. Puzzle Series Vol. 3 SUDOKU

Hardware:
to follow
_____________________________

NSMB remains at teh top of the charts, that game is unstoppable.
AC:WW climbs another spot on the charts
Tamagotchi is well on its way to 1 million
Cuisine looks like it could be on its way to atleast 750k+
and Brain Training 2 is now officially the newest member to the 3million + club!!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 24, 2006, 10:47:24 AM
Mario better be ready to take 2nd, FFIII has already sold out in less than 24 hours.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on August 24, 2006, 11:46:06 AM
Man, someone get that Gundam blemish off the charts.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 25, 2006, 02:13:15 AM
Media Create Hardware Sales: August 14th - 20th   Source

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | % change
DSL 74,495  [196,719  -62%]
PSP 41,535  [41,289  +0.6%]
PS2 26,833  [26,547]
GBASP 3,823 [3,051]
GBM 2,266     [2,031]
Xbox360 1,493 [1,204]
GC 922 [940]
DS 712 [934]
GBA 20 [23]
Xbox 7 [6]

The end of DS-Lites reign has occured, dropping a massive 62% in one week of sales. Even if PSP sales stay the same PSP will take over the lead with this continued massive drop.
Nintento need to pull something out of the bag immediately, havent they learnt anything from GCN? Surely they can get some third party to release a system seller rather than always relying on "brain training" and "mario" to lead the brigade.

With this projected rate of decline DS-lite sales will be in single figures in 10 weeks time!

Projected DS-lite sales based on weekly decline of 62%
W1 28,210
W2 10,683
W3 4,045
W4 1,532
W5 580
W6 220
W7 83
W8 32
W9 12
W10 5
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 25, 2006, 04:14:17 AM
Final Fantasy 3 was just released.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 25, 2006, 05:06:42 AM
Oh yeah, like an 18 year old port is going to sell systems.  You're all blind fanboys!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 25, 2006, 05:46:46 AM
Heheheh. I can't wait to see the sales. It sold out on the first day, so how many do you think it shipped?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2006, 07:13:18 AM
more than 350k copies is my guess
probably closer to 500k though, and Nintendo held back on DSL shipments to have enough for the release day of FFIII
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 25, 2006, 07:59:30 AM
Not enough.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on August 25, 2006, 09:27:36 AM
I heard 450,000 copies.  Although I don't know if that includes copies bundled with the limited edition FFIII DSL.

I also heard there were 600,000 pre-orders, so not everyone who pre-ordered got their copy.  

The FFIII DSL is probably also the reason for the drop in DSL sales for the week prior.  Nintendo probably agreed to make a certain number of them and they had to take some stock from the regular ones.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 25, 2006, 10:48:12 AM
I hear they sold so many that if they were to produce them all the planet would collapse under the gravity and become a black hole.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on August 28, 2006, 02:43:35 PM
I wonder if FFIII will have lasting power or have a crazy high amount sold in the first few weeks and then drop off the charts? I think it'll be up there for awhile. And we have Pokemon right around the corner... then Zelda. DS will be around for a loooooong time. Any thoughts of a new Gameboy anytime soon are long gone.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 28, 2006, 09:21:24 PM
Wow, the DS hits just keep on coming. VERY good release schedule.

*ahem* Wii? Please follow your little brother's example. Consistency is key!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 29, 2006, 05:33:16 AM
On Hocotate's comment: I'm interested to see how FFIII does too.  I've heard some comments that RPGs tend to sell like crazy for a couple of weeks and then drop quickly in Japan, so I'll be watching the performance of this game closely.

You know, I just had a thought.  Maybe part of the reason DS games sustain high sales for so long is due to the shortages.  I mean, if everyone in Japan who wants a DS had one, maybe the games would just sell 2 million up front and then taper off.  Anyway, yeah, curious about those FFIII sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on August 29, 2006, 05:46:43 AM
If it does have lasting power in the top 10, it may cause Square-Enix to rethink who is the better platform for their main franchise The DS is doing so well. While I don't think it will outlast Mario or Animal Crossing, I have a feeling FFIII will be up there for awhile.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 29, 2006, 06:39:39 AM
I think it will sell fairly consistant, moreso than any other FF at least. The main reason is due to the weekly DS shortages. A large chunk of FF3 sales I imagine will be from people buying a DS for that game, these people might have to wait weeks and months to be able to get a DS, then they'll pick up FF3 and keep it floating in the top 10.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 29, 2006, 10:33:33 AM
First week estimates have it at 500,000+.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 29, 2006, 05:36:45 PM
Quote

Final Fantasy Tops Half Million

August 29, 2006 - Japan's biggest game is, once again, Final Fantasy. According to a report on the entertainment page of Japan's Mainichi Interactive news site, Square Enix's Final Fantasy III topped the 500,000 mark in its first week of sales. The title was released for the DS on 8/24.

The site reports that Square Enix was originally expecting first week sales to cap off at 350,000 units.

Stupid idiots, only 350,000 for a high profile DS game? How dumb can you be? No wonder there's shortages. FLOP
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 29, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
I think the shortages are on purpose, there are only so many DS' to be had, and they would rather keep the game burning up the charts for weeks to come than to have one big explosion and then fizzle out.

Well, atleast thats what I think they are doing...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 29, 2006, 07:21:59 PM
I would think they would much rather recoup their losses with instant gratification in terms of profit than purposely keep it in low supply.. Besides, people who want the game are going to be pretty upset if they can't get it soon, and might just skip on it altogether if they do that.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 30, 2006, 01:40:35 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
I would think they would much rather recoup their losses with instant gratification in terms of profit than purposely keep it in low supply.. Besides, people who want the game are going to be pretty upset if they can't get it soon, and might just skip on it altogether if they do that.
The DS has been in short supply and because of it people just keep wanting more and more of it. That is what I think SE is trying to acheive, and I hope thier gamble pays off in the long run.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 30, 2006, 05:38:00 AM
I thought the DS was in short supply because Nintendo couldn't make enough!

Actually, this is an interesting point: if Nintendo is truly having problems meeting demand, then the sales shouldn't really go up much during the holiday season.  Of course, you could argue Nintendo is stockpiling units for that time because it knows demand is going to be even higher, but either way, that would suggest that Nintendo is artificially creating demand.

Oh yeah, and half a million?  Nice.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 30, 2006, 07:14:20 AM
Shareholders will demand an increase over Decemberween so that may even be a plausible course of action
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 30, 2006, 05:41:09 PM
01 NDS FF3 - 503.051 / NEW
02 NDS NEW SMB - 65.556 / 2.901.264
03 NDS Rune Factory - 42.210 / NEW
04 NDS Brain Age 2 - 41.784 / 3.073.195
05 NDS Cooking Navi - 37.326 / 384.045
06 NDS Tamagotchi 2 - 30.504 /430.933
07 NDS Mario Basketball 3on3 - 30.355
08 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 30.023 / 3.149.131
09 NDS Brain Age - 22.866 / 2.736.150
10 NDS English Training - 17.465

1. Nintendo DS Lite ?163.274
2. PlayStation Portable ?29.945
3. PlayStation 2 ?21.829
4. GameBoy Advance SP ?2.719
5. GameBoy Micro? 1819
6. Xbox 360 ?1197
7. Nintendo GameCube? 837
8. Nintendo DS? 410
9. GameBoy Advance ?14
10. Xbox? 12

Man, the DS software tie ratio has to be absolutely huge. Too bad FF3 didn't sell any more DS's than usual. Looks like nobody will buy a Nintendo system for third party games, that has to be massively worrying for any company who has announced DS games without Mario in them. No wonder PSP is getting all the most fantastic support, third parties have been thinking ahead.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2006, 05:42:01 PM
Japan's Media Create Numbers for Aug. 21-27:

Quote

01 NDS FF3 - 503.051 / NEW
02 NDS NEW SMB - 65.556 / 2.901.264
03 NDS Rune Factory - 42.210 / NEW
04 NDS Brain Age 2 - 41.784 / 3.073.195
05 NDS Cooking Navi - 37.326 / 384.045
06 NDS Tamagotchi 2 - 30.504 /430.933
07 NDS Mario Basketball 3on3 - 30.355
08 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 30.023 / 3.149.131
09 NDS Brain Age - 22.866 / 2.736.150
10 NDS English Training - 17.465

1. Nintendo DS Lite ?163.274
2. PlayStation Portable ?29.945
3. PlayStation 2 ?21.829
4. GameBoy Advance SP ?2.719
5. GameBoy Micro? 1819
6. Xbox 360 ?1197
7. Nintendo GameCube? 837
8. Nintendo DS? 410
9. GameBoy Advance ?14
10. Xbox? 12


It's bad enough that it's been ages since we've seen a GC game in the top 10. But it only adds insult to injury that the GBA is all but dead as well, with Bit Generations and Rhythm Tengoku the FLOPS we all knew them to be.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on August 30, 2006, 05:50:52 PM
Not a single non-DS game in the top ten? Seriously?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2006, 05:56:27 PM
Wandering, are you blind? Look at the numbers for NSMB! Obviously the game's run out of steam. Rhythm Tengoku for the GBA is nowhere to be scene, can you say DEAD HANDHELD? Also, next week we could see the XBox outsellf the original GBA. Nintendo is obviously losing ground, and should go third-party before it's too late. Nothing is more pathetic than someone who just doesn't know when their time is up.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 30, 2006, 06:19:41 PM
Yep, it's the first top 10 clean sweep OF ALL TIME! PS2 didn't even manage that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: wandering on August 30, 2006, 06:30:12 PM
Wait, so now you're being sarcastic to make the DS look bad, instead of good? WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?

Or is it really the first top ten clean sweep of all time? I can't really tell.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 30, 2006, 06:34:14 PM
I was wondering if it could ever sweep, and it DID! Yay!

I am curious, though. Are the bundle sales included in that DSLite number? Those bundles sold out and there were supposedly 200,000 of them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 30, 2006, 06:37:56 PM
this has never been more appropriate



O.O at sweeping up the whole Top 10. Unf#ckin believeable!!!  

Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

Software:
01 NDS FF3 - 503.051 / NEW
02 NDS NEW SMB - 65.556 / 2.901.264
03 NDS Rune Factory - 42.210 / NEW
04 NDS Brain Age 2 - 41.784 / 3.073.195
05 NDS Cooking Navi - 37.326 / 384.045
06 NDS Tamagotchi 2 - 30.504 /430.933
07 NDS Mario Basketball 3on3 - 30.355
08 NDS Animal Crossing WW - 30.023 / 3.149.131
09 NDS Brain Age - 22.866 / 2.736.150
10 NDS English Training - 17.465
~
11. Daito Giken Pachislot Hihouden
12. Tetris DS
13. Mario Kart DS
14. Jissen Pachislot Hokuto no Ken SE (PS2)
15. Melty Blood Act Cadenza
16. Wrestle Angels Survivor
17. SD Gundam G Generation Portable
18. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13
19. Sengoku BASARA 2
20. Guilty Gear Judgment (PSP)
21. Digimon Story
22. Monster Hunter Portable (PSP The Best)
23. summer##
24. Kirarin Star Revolution Kirakira Idol Audition
25. Atsumare! Power Pro Kun no DS Koushien
26. Rhythm Tengoku
27. Minna no DS Seminar Kanpeki Kanji
28. Battle Stadium DON (PS2)
29. Mushiking Greatest Champion e-no Michi 2
30. Pokemon Ranger Diamond and Pearl e-no Michi

Hardware:
1. Nintendo DS Lite ?163.274
2. PlayStation Portable ?29.945
3. PlayStation 2 ?21.829
4. GameBoy Advance SP ?2.719
5. GameBoy Micro? 1819
6. Xbox 360 ?1197
7. Nintendo GameCube? 837
8. Nintendo DS? 410
9. GameBoy Advance ?14
10. Xbox? 12

NDS:18
PS2:8
PSP:3
GBA:1

quoted and updated
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on August 30, 2006, 08:03:44 PM
Too bad there is that PS2 title at #11. I would have been further awesome to have had a clean sweep of the Top 12!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 30, 2006, 08:09:05 PM
Sony:  Japan doesn't matter...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on August 30, 2006, 08:19:45 PM
Quote

Man, the DS software tie ratio has to be absolutely huge. Too bad FF3 didn't sell any more DS's than usual.
Heh. I find it funny that Nintendo can artificially cause a spike in DS sales just by shipping more units that week. Then they can say it was caused by a certain game. So when "Touch DIC 2" comes out, Nintendo will be like, "Yep. That game sure sold tonnes of DSes. New audience. Nongamer strategy in the works, people.."
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
Wait...if Touch DIC 2 didn't sell DS', then what did?!?!?!?!?!

OMG! Nintendo has no real system sellers! DS Software is teh pits! It's all smoke and mirrors! PSP is actually winning japan!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 30, 2006, 08:48:13 PM
PSP sales actually dropped by less than the DS sales rose, that means when DS sales drop after this brief one week "moment" for Nintendo, DS sales will start dropping more than PSPs. So at this rate the PSP will continue on steady and by 2017 PSP will have caught up to DS in weekly sales. There's just no point Nintendo carrying on when this is inevitable.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2006, 08:57:16 PM
Good point Mario.

*places hands together at the finger tips ominously*

It's only a matter of time.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 31, 2006, 02:17:56 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Wait...if Touch DIC 2 didn't sell DS', then what did?!?!?!?!?!


Touch VAG 1.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on August 31, 2006, 03:48:10 AM
Selected Sony qoutes from the past (stolen from gaf)

Quote

"The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance, those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth."

"With the DS, it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen, but I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a sparkling innovation - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that."

"Nintendo knows its target audience, because it has really narrowed that down; and it's pretty much defined by a boy or girl's ability to admire Pokemon."

"PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto, and Sony is the only company that can do it,"



Sound similar to Sony's rants about the PS3 being the only true Next Gen System?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 31, 2006, 05:19:51 AM
The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance, those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth.

Yes, it'd be pretty damn insulting to Nintendo to compare any of their handhelds to the PSP mroe liek NGage

PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto, and Sony is the only company that can do it

Translation: With the PSP you won't be playing games anymore!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on August 31, 2006, 06:14:14 AM
Heh... my favorite quote (from the website owner no less!) was "The DS doesn't have any features, at all, anyone would want in a system" He has since, uh..., recognized the error of his statement. But he still calls "us" sheep for buying it.

The other "good" quote from this 'gamer' news website, was "I dig the PSP. I like it because the game library actually has real games. Not tarted up Flash games with delusions of grandeur." KTHXBY  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on August 31, 2006, 06:41:19 AM
It's funny to see Sony fanboys flop around like that. It's the first time they've had to support the 'minority' system... Most of them don't know how to react.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on August 31, 2006, 07:28:42 AM
You know, I expect at lot of Sony Fanboys are not going to be gamers at all in a few years. "Whut? games are for teh kiddies and fairies, I'm into fad ____ now"  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on August 31, 2006, 09:40:35 AM
Oh, and I love how the DS takes every slot in the top 10. lolSony.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 31, 2006, 11:18:22 AM
Though I do have to say that the disparity between Number 1 and Number 10 being 485,586 units doesn't bode to well for the market in general.  I now that is because FFIII is very anticipated but also note that there is a huge gap between 2 and 10.  Personally I would feel better as a company if most of my top ten were a little closer grouped, towards the high end.  Also why don't they just import American and European DS?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on August 31, 2006, 12:03:11 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
Though I do have to say that the disparity between Number 1 and Number 10 being 485,586 units doesn't bode to well for the market in general.  I now that is because FFIII is very anticipated but also note that there is a huge gap between 2 and 10.  Personally I would feel better as a company if most of my top ten were a little closer grouped, towards the high end.  Also why don't they just import American and European DS?


It's not that huge. You can hardly expect that many games to sell that many copies.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 31, 2006, 01:43:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
Though I do have to say that the disparity between Number 1 and Number 10 being 485,586 units doesn't bode to well for the market in general.  I now that is because FFIII is very anticipated but also note that there is a huge gap between 2 and 10.  Personally I would feel better as a company if most of my top ten were a little closer grouped, towards the high end.  Also why don't they just import American and European DS?


Oh yeah? You should see the PSP numbers. Remember Gundam for the PSP? The game that knocked NSMB out of the #1 spot? Uh-huh.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on August 31, 2006, 06:13:01 PM
As a developer though a rather see an eclectic group of games selling near each other at the top and not so much brand loyalty.  It means I have a chance.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 31, 2006, 06:44:01 PM
Nintendo just can't win can they? Now that they have the user base, they're selling too many games at the same time with too varied numbers? Geez.

Anyways, it's not brand loyalty that's selling these games. It's concept.

Cookbook. (DS Navi Cooking)
Learn a new language. (English Training)
Minigames. (Tamagotchi)
Pachinko (PS2 Pachislot game at #11 and another Pachinko game at #14)

NO ONE COMPANY owns a patent on any of these new and emergent themes. As a developer, this should be a very exciting time because entirely new untapped markets are opening up with the DS and, unlike the stale past handheld market, there are new game types just waiting to be discovered, staked out, and mined for profits. It's a new gold rush!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Edit: Bah. People DID buy Rune Factory on branding, so I took it out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on August 31, 2006, 07:33:28 PM
Of course a game on its 11th week isn't going to sell as much as an anticipated game on its first week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 02, 2006, 04:47:35 AM
The black DSL came out today in Japan. People were, per usual, lined up around the block.

Could the DSL increase AGAIN next week?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on September 02, 2006, 12:58:32 PM
I can't help but wonder if any system has ever before swept the charts in Japan.

PS2 didn't, apparently. Does anyone know if Sega Saturn, Super Famicom, PC Engine, or Famicom did? I seriously doubt anything but the market-leading console could.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 02, 2006, 01:08:34 PM
I'm sure the Famicon did quite often.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 02, 2006, 07:55:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
I'm sure the Famicon did quite often.
and I'm quite sure the Saturn never did....



there is apparently, another limited edition DSL to be released in September in Japan, a Pokemon Diamond and Pearl one.....it'll be available through the Pokemon Centre, so NINTENDO IS DOOOOMED!!! that'll be a VERY LONG WAITING LINE

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Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on September 03, 2006, 05:56:31 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
I'm sure the Famicon did quite often.
and I'm quite sure the Saturn never did....


In case you didn't know, Saturn killed Playstation in Japan. Although post-1997, Sony's hardware outsold Sega's, it wasn't until much later that Saturn's software wasn't convincingly on top.

Further proof.. they just have better taste.
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 03, 2006, 07:15:26 AM
Naah, Sega of America just royally screwed up with the Saturn. It had much more software in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on September 03, 2006, 09:36:23 AM
I missed out on the FFIII limited edition DS lite ($340-$350 on play-asia and yesasia >< I have my eye on the Pokemon and Winning Eleven DS lites.... of course they'll probably cost the same or even higher for the Pokemon one, even though they only retail in Japan for about $145-$200 ><
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on September 03, 2006, 03:02:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Naah, Sega of America just royally screwed up with the Saturn. It had much more software in Japan.


Yes, they did. They killed it even though it could have been the thing. They did the same with Dreamcast, later, to a lesser extent.

That doesn't make Playstation better than Saturn. Sega Saturn is a much, much, much better system than is Sony Playstation.

Just like Nintendo DS is greater than Sony Playstation Portable.

In other news, Final Fantasy III looks fantastic and I think it'll sell units in the United States too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 03, 2006, 07:07:01 PM
The Saturn was a complete piece of crap, as far as hardware goes. It had some decent games, but every cross-platform game was either equal or better on the PlayStation. If Sega made PSX games, and never made the Saturn, then the PSX would have been the ultimate "32 bit" system. Sega did a good job with 3D (think Star Fox for SNES, or S.T.U.N. Runner in the arcades) on the Saturn, I'll admit, but any game that used those things...what are they called...oh yeah, polygons, looked and played better on the PSX. Sorry to hate on the Saturn - it did have many great games, don't get me wrong, but the hardware simply sucked.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: oohhboy on September 03, 2006, 10:09:06 PM
The Saturn was garbage with 3D. Originally it was designed as the "Ultimate" 2D system. When the PSX was unveiled to contain 3D, sega started a crash program to bring 3D to the Saturn. It resulted in the addition of a 2nd 2D GFX chip running in parralle to give it enough power to do 3D.

It resulted in a crime against nature. With 2 chips that were designed for 2D, squezzing enough power out of them for 3D was a complete nightmare. Even maxed out it could not hope to match vertex to vertex to what the PSX could do.

But it did produce some really nice 2D games and managed some noteable 3D ones.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris Michael on September 03, 2006, 11:23:26 PM
Apparently there's reports of FFIII not being restocked (at least soon) because Nintendo is focusing on manufacturing Pokemon moreso (iirc, probably have it wrong in some way). This would be really bad for FFIII I think, because I doubt it could reach 1mil then. I'd love to be wrong.

By the way, I'm Noble~Feather. For some reason I can't log back into my NF account.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 03, 2006, 11:24:47 PM
Quote

By the way, I'm Noble~Feather. For some reason I can't log back into my NF account.
Get out. And I don't mean that in the "seriously?" kind of way..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 03, 2006, 11:37:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chris Michael
Apparently there's reports of FFIII not being restocked (at least soon) because Nintendo is focusing on manufacturing Pokemon moreso (iirc, probably have it wrong in some way). This would be really bad for FFIII I think, because I doubt it could reach 1mil then. I'd love to be wrong.

By the way, I'm Noble~Feather. For some reason I can't log back into my NF account.

Wouldn't Square-Enix be handling FF3 production?

Shortages will be the downfall of Nintendo. It's almost been a year now, and they haven't done anything.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chris Michael on September 03, 2006, 11:56:34 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

By the way, I'm Noble~Feather. For some reason I can't log back into my NF account.
Get out. And I don't mean that in the "seriously?" kind of way..


Heh. It's been well over a year. Forgive & forget?
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 04, 2006, 05:21:52 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario

Wouldn't Square-Enix be handling FF3 production?.


Yeah, really. I don't see how Pokemon could affect FFIII at all.

And expect gangbuster numbers in system sales this week, the Onyx sold out.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 04, 2006, 08:52:40 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
The Saturn was garbage with 3D. Originally it was designed as the "Ultimate" 2D system. When the PSX was unveiled to contain 3D, sega started a crash program to bring 3D to the Saturn. It resulted in the addition of a 2nd 2D GFX chip running in parralle to give it enough power to do 3D.

It resulted in a crime against nature. With 2 chips that were designed for 2D, squezzing enough power out of them for 3D was a complete nightmare. Even maxed out it could not hope to match vertex to vertex to what the PSX could do.

But it did produce some really nice 2D games and managed some noteable 3D ones.
that's still regarded as rumor, and the Satrun was very capable of 3D graphics.....sure, it was hard as hell to program for, but done well, you'd get some impressive results (VF2 and unreleased Shenmue come to mind)


and the most I could find regarding Saturn software sales, was that VF2 was the top selling game in Japan (and worldwide)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 04, 2006, 09:34:00 AM
sure, it was hard as hell to program for, but done well, you'd get some impressive results (VF2 and unreleased Shenmue come to mind)

Ya but you'd need demoscene-level coding to get that done and at that level you'd spend five years working on something as complex as Mario 64.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on September 04, 2006, 09:39:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
The Saturn was garbage with 3D. Originally it was designed as the "Ultimate" 2D system. When the PSX was unveiled to contain 3D, sega started a crash program to bring 3D to the Saturn. It resulted in the addition of a 2nd 2D GFX chip running in parralle to give it enough power to do 3D.

It resulted in a crime against nature. With 2 chips that were designed for 2D, squezzing enough power out of them for 3D was a complete nightmare. Even maxed out it could not hope to match vertex to vertex to what the PSX could do.

But it did produce some really nice 2D games and managed some noteable 3D ones.


Wrong, and a common misconception.

The Saturn's hardware had 2 CPUs, and 6 other processors. It was designed from the ground up for 3-D, although it had impressive 2-D abilities as well. The thing is that it was easy to program 2D whereas 3D was difficult, hence the terrible Saturn Virtua Fighter.  However, as demonstrated by Virtua Fighter 2, 3D was very feasible on the system and it could go head-to-head (and above and beyond) with Playstation if the dev was talented enough. Yu Suzuki, for example, programmed the Saturn version of Shenmue. Show me any PSone game that uses rendered 3D that looks as good, or any 3DO game or any 32-bit game for that matter. Tecmo's whateverhisfirstnameis Itagaki, who was an excellent developer, said he himself would program for Saturn over Playstation to this day.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 04, 2006, 11:10:25 AM
I think Neo is right I think I heard that the Saturn was in fact more powerful than PSone but it was so hard to program for that it didn't really matter.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 04, 2006, 06:38:20 PM
So hence the hardware was crap. Take a game like Smackdown VS RAW 2007 for PS2 - for a current gen game it looks absolutely incredible - it looks better than probably 95% of Xbox 1 games, but it took THQ 5+ years to acheive that kind of beauty on the system, mainly due to the PS2 being so damn difficult for developrers to get everything they want out of it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on September 04, 2006, 10:28:45 PM
Welcome back Noble Feather
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 05, 2006, 01:05:43 AM
Tecmo's whateverhisfirstnameis Itagaki, who was an excellent developer, said he himself would program for Saturn over Playstation to this day.

He also said he likes making his team work on difficult consoles and he'd appreciate if the PS3 was more difficult to use than the PS2.

EDIT: oops, I think that was Kojima, not Itagaki. Perhaps his goal is just to make 95% of the games not use the full power of the system so when his games do everyone lauds them for their great graphics.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on September 06, 2006, 06:39:51 AM
DS still leading in Australia, apart from GTA-PSP.



link
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 06, 2006, 07:11:59 AM
The fact that DS has conquered backwards world shows that Nintendo is on an unstoppable roll.  Sony and Microsoft should just give up now.

Edit: although in all seriousness, I think Nintendo's willingness to follow through on less-popular systems like N64 and GameCube is one of the things that separates it from Sega (i.e. hardware failure): it shows the consumers that they can count on Nintendo's support right to the bitter end, even if the third parties drop out.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on September 06, 2006, 09:53:47 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey

Nintendo's willingness to follow through on less-popular systems like N64 and GameCube is one of the things that separates it from Sega (i.e. hardware failure)


Sega Master System kthx

Although I concede that they did pull the plug on 32X, Saturn, and Dreamcast early.. but that was after supporting multiple "less-popular" consoles for quite a while.

Nintendo will own everyone forever.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 06, 2006, 06:12:12 PM
1. Phantasy Star Universe - PS2 - 120.202 - (120.202)
2. New Super Mario Bros. - NDS - 72.763 - (2.974.027)
3. More DS Brain Training - NDS - 46.662 - (3.119.857)
4. Final Fantasy III - NDS - 45.949 - (549.001)
5. Tingle RPG - NDS - 45.496 - (45.496)
6. Nintendo DS Talking Cooking Navi - NDS - 35.689 - (419.733)
7. Mario Hoops 3-on-3 - NDS - 34.001 - (267.763)
8. Animal Crossing : Wild World – NDS – 32.605 - (3.181.735)
9. Rhythm Tengoku - GBA - 28.361 - (123.432)
10. Tamagotchi Connexion Corner Shop 2 - NDS - 27.540 - (458.474)

Don't worry about FFIII, there was no new shipment. That's just the left overs from last week.

Almost a perfect 10 again! Also, NSMB passes 3 mil next week!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 06, 2006, 07:09:56 PM
Hey, Tingle actually did pretty well.. And Square is acting so dumb - after months of ragging on Nintendo to up their DS shipments in time for FFIII, they themselves undership the game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on September 06, 2006, 07:28:09 PM
Phantasy Star Universe is out... I need to find a review...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 06, 2006, 08:51:41 PM
PSU isn't going to go much farther than that.  It will be lucky to hit 200,000 in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on September 06, 2006, 11:14:36 PM
I am amazed at how much Nintendo is dominating Japan right now. Wii has Japan, especially after how Sony screwed up the launch so badly. Anyway Tingle RPG did pretty good, though I was half expecting it to be the next big sleeper hit that sells 1mil+. Heh, guess I was wrong.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 07, 2006, 04:15:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
PSU isn't going to go much farther than that.  It will be lucky to hit 200,000 in Japan.



especially considering that the online part of the game is so broken that Sega has taken it down and won't put it back up until like early 2007.  I don't remember where I read this so sorry, no linkie.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 07, 2006, 06:47:26 AM
Ceric: Famitsu 35 (9/9/8/9) Platinum good enough?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ages on September 07, 2006, 07:42:05 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Neodymium
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey

Nintendo's willingness to follow through on less-popular systems like N64 and GameCube is one of the things that separates it from Sega (i.e. hardware failure)


Sega Master System kthx

Although I concede that they did pull the plug on 32X, Saturn, and Dreamcast early.. but that was after supporting multiple "less-popular" consoles for quite a while.

Nintendo will own everyone forever.


Actually, IIRC, Sega realized Nintendo had dominance over the American market, so they sold marketing rights to teh SMS to Tonka.  I agree Sega did pull the plug early on many of their systems.  I believe another reason they failed in the long run would be due to their emphasis on hardware.  It's easy to point to the Sega CD, and the 32X, but many people don't know many of Sega's other blunders, including: 2 Genesis redesigns, the Nomad (portable Genesis), the X'eye/Wondermega (Genesis/Sega CD hybrid), and the CDX (PORTABLE Genesis/Sega CD hybrid) among others.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 07, 2006, 10:22:10 AM
Pico, anyone?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 07, 2006, 08:06:08 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus

Media Create - August 28th - Sept. 3rd

Software:
1. Phantasy Star Universe - PS2 - 120.202 - (120.202)
2. New Super Mario Bros. - NDS - 72.763 - (2.974.027)
3. More DS Brain Training - NDS - 46.662 - (3.119.857)
4. Final Fantasy III - NDS - 45.949 - (549.001)
5. Tingle RPG - NDS - 45.496 - (45.496)
6. Nintendo DS Talking Cooking Navi - NDS - 35.689 - (419.733)
7. Mario Hoops 3-on-3 - NDS - 34.001 - (267.763)
8. Animal Crossing : Wild World – NDS – 32.605 - (3.181.735)
9. Rhythm Tengoku - GBA - 28.361 - (123.432)
10. Tamagotchi Connexion Corner Shop 2 - NDS - 27.540 - (458.474)
~
11. Brain Age
12. PSP / VALHALLA KNIGHTS
13. Eve ~new generation~
14. English Training DS
15. Mario Kart DS
16. Kamiwaza
17. Tetris DS
18. DS/ Chousojuu Meka MG
19. GuitarFreaks & DrumMania MASTERPIECE SILVER
20. Rune Factory Shin Bokujou Monogatari
21. Jissen Pachislot! Hokuto no Ken SE
22. Kokoro wo Yasumeru Otona no Nurie DS
23. Daito Pachislot Simulator Hihouden
24. PSP/ SD Gundam G Generation Portable
25. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13
26. Minna no Seminar Kanpeki Kanji
27. Digimon Story
28. Monster Hunter Portable
29. Big Brain Academy
30. Melty Blood Act Cadenza

Hardware:
Nintendo DS Lite - 228,939
PSP - 27,499
PS2 - 22,703
GBA SP - 2,751
Gameboy Micro - 1,791
Xbox 360 - 1,250
Gamecube - 855
Nintendo DS - 320
GBA - 22
Xbox - 0

quoted & updated

Looks like Xbox is officially dead  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 07, 2006, 09:45:02 PM
Wow, lots of DS's sold considering the lack of game sales this week. Wouldn't surprise me if Pokemon fans are making sure they grab their DS while they can.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 07, 2006, 09:49:23 PM
Don't forget FFIII fans wanting their DS ready for when the next shipment comes in.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on September 08, 2006, 12:24:39 AM
Don't forget FFIII fans wanting their DS for the FFIII they bought last week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on September 08, 2006, 04:40:43 AM
lol
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 08, 2006, 04:48:53 AM
Did the black DSL not come out this week? Indeed it did.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 08, 2006, 01:45:31 PM
As nice as the DS domination in Japan is, this is even better:

NPD Sale Data, August:

Nintendo DS 278k
PlayStation 2 262k
Xbox 360 204k
Game Boy Advance 156k
PlayStation Portable 146k
GameCube 41k
Xbox 9k

And for happy celebrations:

06 NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - 179,000 / 1,208,000
NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD 45,000
NDS BIG BRAIN ACADEMY 73,000
NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN IN MINUTES A 74,000
NDS METROID PRIME: HUNTERS 24,000
NDS NINTENDOGS: ALL VERSION 85,000

The top PSP game was Madden with 58,000. PS2 and 360 topped things, with madden, at 885,000 and 447,000 respectively.

Market share (software):
Nintendo of America $37m 9.6%
Sony (Corp) $14m 3.5%
Microsoft (Corp) $7m 2.0%

More here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118204
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 08, 2006, 08:27:03 PM
Great news - now hopefully it holds steady and it didn't just spike because of the DS Lite and Mario.. Speaking of Mario, what do you think its worldwide figures are? If it's 3 mil in Japan and 1.2 mil here, it could well be at 5.5 - 6 million worldwide. That's amazing; it's only been out a few months..

Microsoft must be really disappointed with the 360 though - this is its top market and it still isn't really selling much at all.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 08, 2006, 10:13:18 PM
I think DS Lite will pick up the minute the Black and Pink versions are released.  I personally think Nintendo will follow the colors of RAZR phones(well, I guess white instead of silver is different, but from now on).  

Actually, I'm suprised there isn't a pink ipod nano or video yet.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on September 08, 2006, 10:47:16 PM
Nice. DS is dominating everywhere
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 14, 2006, 03:35:09 AM
Media Create Sales Sept. 4 - Sept. 10

1. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Tales of Phantasia Full Voice Edition - 66,263
2. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 53,011 / 3,027,038
3. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 49,475 / 598,476
4. (DS, Nintendo) Mogitate Tingle no Bara Iro Rupee Land - 32,792
5. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 32,054 / 3,151,912
6. (DS, Nintendo) Shaberu! DS Cuisine Navi - 25,458 / 445,191
7. (GBA, Nintendo) Rhythm Tengoku - 24,676 / 148,108
8. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 24,027 / 3,205,762
9. (PS2, Sega) Phantasy Star Universe - 20,431 / 140,633
10. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Basket 3 on 3 - 20,372 / 288,136

I have a bad feeling about this...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 14, 2006, 03:45:18 AM
WHOA Sony has struck Nintendo by surprise! They thought nothing could topple them, this is a great example of how arrogance leads to downfall! Nintendo probably have nothing to combat this PSP onslaught now, I sense a turnaround.

(go Tingle )
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 14, 2006, 08:50:41 AM
On another note, NSMB is over the 3 million mark now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 14, 2006, 09:29:14 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
Media Create Sales Sept. 4 - Sept. 10

Software:
1. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Tales of Phantasia Full Voice Edition - 66,263
2. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 53,011 / 3,027,038
3. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 49,475 / 598,476
4. (DS, Nintendo) Mogitate Tingle no Bara Iro Rupee Land - 32,792
5. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 32,054 / 3,151,912
6. (DS, Nintendo) Shaberu! DS Cuisine Navi - 25,458 / 445,191
7. (GBA, Nintendo) Rhythm Tengoku - 24,676 / 148,108
8. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 24,027 / 3,205,762
9. (PS2, Sega) Phantasy Star Universe - 20,431 / 140,633
10. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Basket 3 on 3 - 20,372 / 288,136
~
11. Brain Training DS
12. Tamagotchi 2 DS
13. English Training DS
14. Mario Kart DS
15. Valhalla Knights PSP
16. Taiko no Tatsujin 2 PSP
17. Tetris DS
18. Capcom Classic Collection PSP
19. Chou Soujuu Mecha MG DS
20. Rune Factory DS
21. Hokuto no Ken Pachislot SE PS2
22. (Namco new Brain Training) DS
23. Yamasa Digi World SP Giant Palser PSP
24. Kamiwaza PS2
25. Daito Pachislot PS2
26. Monster Hunter The Best PSP
27. Minna no DS Seminaru Kanpeki Kanji DS
28. Digimon Story DS
29. SD Gundam G Generation Portable PSP
30. Mar Heaven DS

Hardware:
DSL 113,831
PSP 29,141
PS2 19,882
GBASP 2,104
GBM 1,801
Xbox360 1,094
DS 1,058
GC 696
GBA 13
Xbox 5

Quoted & Updated

FFIII still going strong now that there are more games on the shelves
Tingle getting off to a decent start
DS has (3) 3+million sellers in the Top 10 and about (5) 1+million seller in the Top 15

I can't wait to see the charts come late November when Wii and PS3 are launched.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 14, 2006, 06:44:05 PM
Well, the PS3 only has 100,000 units over there, so don't expect much..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 14, 2006, 07:20:53 PM
DSL     113,831
PSP    29,141
PS2    19,882
GBASP    2,104
GBM    1,801
Xbox360    1,094
DS    1,058
GC    696
GBA    13
Xbox    5

The XBOX does amazing!!

DS does very good considering no new games this week (or colours).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 14, 2006, 09:18:23 PM
If their shipments are as small as they say the DS is going to outsell the PS3.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 15, 2006, 02:54:09 AM
They just need to release a major game on the 11th and have lots of systems ready and they'll make PS3 look like nothing.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 15, 2006, 04:20:42 AM
=D if the GCN keeps up it might outsell the xbox worldwide for second place. lol
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 15, 2006, 07:10:19 AM
Artimus: Pfft. At the current rate the only thing Nintendo needs to do to outsell the PS3 is ship more units.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on September 15, 2006, 07:29:13 AM
When the sales are posted for the PS3 launch, I think I'll use that for a new sig lol. The new playatation will be 4th from last place in Japan, ouch. Nintendo will get a nice little head start until Sony can start to produce an acceptable amount of PS3s. My guess is they won't be able to for awhile, much like the 360.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on September 16, 2006, 05:16:54 PM
It will be March 2007.  Thats why it will then make it over to Europe.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on September 16, 2006, 08:36:48 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Hocotate
When the sales are posted for the PS3 launch, I think I'll use that for a new sig lol. The new playatation will be 4th from last place in Japan, ouch. Nintendo will get a nice little head start until Sony can start to produce an acceptable amount of PS3s. My guess is they won't be able to for awhile, much like the 360.


The key to that is how long a "while" is. I still say that's what hurt Microsoft most, not the launch scarcity, or the paucity of solid titles, or even the rampant stories of hardware failures. Everybody was scrambling for 360's until about a month before the supply got up to a reasonable amount, and at that point it seems like a lot of people who didn't get them just started forgetting about it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on September 17, 2006, 03:59:06 AM
Another 1,093 faulty Xbox360's enter the Japanese market. I'll give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt,  1 of the 1,094 sold should work

The only reason I havent got a 360 is because of the failure rate, not that I forgot about it due to shortages initially.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on September 17, 2006, 05:36:14 AM
I've heard they were coming out with a second revision in early-mid 2007 that's got a lower power consumption version of the CPU, that oughta reduce heat and by extension failure rate.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: RiskyChris on September 17, 2006, 11:53:16 AM
Anyone notice how well Rhythm Tengoku is doing?  I think it's spreading in popularity (wasn't it out of the top 10 already once?).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 18, 2006, 06:16:15 AM
I think it's partially due to all-around low sales that Rhythm Tengoku is back in the top 10, but yes, it does have pretty good longevity!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 18, 2006, 11:05:35 AM
Rhythm Tengoku is being marketed almost as a DS game.  On the box it says "Play this on DS" or something to that effect.  That might have something to do with it
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 22, 2006, 09:30:47 AM
1. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Tennis - 226,976
2. (PS2, Banpresto) Rurouni Kenshin: Enjou! Kyoto Rinne - 75,007
3. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 57,057 / 655,533
4. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 53,089 / 3,080,126
5. (PS2, Capcom) GOD HAND - 48,280
6. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 34,959 / 3,186,871
7. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Ridge Racers 2 - 28,232
8. (DS, Sega) Atama Scan - 27,890
9. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 24,792 / 3,230,554
10. (DS, Nintendo) Cooking Navigator - 20,766 / 465,958

DSL     134,885
PS2    34,189
PSP    26,995
GBASP    2,330
GBM    1,244
Xbox360    928
GC    630
DS    478
GBA    27
Xbox    7
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 22, 2006, 10:03:03 AM
Some Playstation comeback this week!  It's actually kind of exciting.  Apparently the PS2 sales are partially due to a price drop.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 22, 2006, 10:55:56 AM
Hey Couchmonkey, not to pry or anything... but... you're getting a PS3 at launch, so I wonder, do you own a PSP? And what do you think of it?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 22, 2006, 12:58:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Some Playstation comeback this week!  It's actually kind of exciting.  Apparently the PS2 sales are partially due to a price drop.

Well, duh!  I did finally break down and buy one last week.  Of course the price is about to come down!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 22, 2006, 02:26:26 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Hey Couchmonkey, not to pry or anything... but... you're getting a PS3 at launch, so I wonder, do you own a PSP? And what do you think of it?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
I'm fairly sure he doesn't; this act of his only started 2 weeks or so ago
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 22, 2006, 08:32:05 PM
I think he's doing the Mario.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on September 23, 2006, 08:01:11 AM
LOL NINTENDO IS LOSIN AMIRITE

IT SURE IS KEWL TO PRETEND TO HAE NINTENDO IN A SARKASTIC WAY LOLOLOLOLOL
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on September 23, 2006, 12:56:27 PM
The calm before the stom... Pokemon will pwn Japan
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on September 23, 2006, 02:52:24 PM
Yea.... I mean geez if NSMB sold a million copies in two days... I'd imagine Pokemon will sell way more.

It's for the DS, its got online though WFC, and tons of new Pokemon to capture. Any one else want to bet we'll see at least 3 million copies sold in the first week?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on September 23, 2006, 07:16:26 PM
I doubt they'll be able to ship enough to sell that many right away, but it will sell every copy they can produce.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 23, 2006, 08:24:41 PM
How many DSLs will go? 300,000?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 23, 2006, 08:47:07 PM
lol, i wouldn't be completely surprised if each version sold 3 million in a week.........okay that is pushing it pretty far but heck if Nintendo can produce that many for the 1st week who knows.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 25, 2006, 07:54:11 AM
I'm guessing at most 200,000.  Pokemon will sell 800,000 of each game and then it will sell at least 500,000 a week per game for the next 2 weeks, then it'll drop to 100,000 total for both games for the next 5 weeks, then 40,000 a week for the next 2 years like Brain Age.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 25, 2006, 09:30:33 AM
PartyBear: Nah, I don't have a PSP.  I only learned the greatness of Sony quite recently!  In my opinion, PSP is fine, but the game selection is meh...not as bad as people claim, but not good enough to justify the price.  I played a PSP once, for about half an hour. It was fine, but also proof positive that games are what make a good system, not hardware.

Don't listen to that crazy IceCold.  He's just jealous because I'm not going to invite him to my "PSThwii" party!

Edit: the names of the people in this post have been changed to protect my stupidity
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 28, 2006, 11:00:07 AM
Pokemon Diamond and Pokemon Pearl have been unleashed on Japan.  Godzilla has been trampled and feared dead!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 28, 2006, 11:30:22 AM
Nintendo seems to have only been able to manufacture 2,000,000 units for launch... a million of each ... all sold out.

Nintendo also seems to have only been able to stockpile around a million DS Lites this week, 500,000 of those the Pokemon P/D Special edition ones ... also probably sold out.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on September 28, 2006, 11:53:56 AM
NOOOOOOO.... NOT GODZILLA.... First Steve Irwin and now Godzilla.  Are their no heroes left?

<Somewhere in Orbit>
"Godzilla and Irwin are gone.  Start the invasion"
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 28, 2006, 12:13:06 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
NOOOOOOO.... NOT GODZILLA.... First Steve Irwin and now Godzilla.  Are their no heroes left?


Your theme song, sir.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 28, 2006, 09:00:47 PM
Top 10 for the week of 9/18-9/24

  1.  Everybody's Tennis (PS2, Sony) - 87,814 [314,790] units
  2. Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 56,596 [712,129] units
  3. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo) - 56,045 [3,136,171] units
  4. Gintama DS: Yorozuya Daisoudou (NDS, Namco Bandai) - 39,737 units
  5. Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu: Motto Nouo Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo) - 34,879 [3,221,750] units
  6. Animal Forest: Wild World (NDS, Nintendo) - 25,617 [3,256,171] units
  7. Rurouni Kenshin: Enjou! Kyoto Rinne (PS2, Banpresto) - 24,712 [99,720] units
  8. Mogitate Tingle no Barairo Rupee Land (NDS, Nintendo) - 23,168 [114,208] units
  9. Shaberu! DS Oryouri Navi (NDS, Nintendo) - 22,540 [488,462] units
 10. Harukanaru Toki no Kade 3: Izayoiki (PS2, Namco Bandai) - 22,100 units
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on September 29, 2006, 03:05:07 AM
If not for the cart shortage, FFIII would be #1 I'm sure. Oh well, this will be the last PS2 game we'll see up at #1 for a while (probably ever lol). Expect Pokemon to be #1 and 2 for at least untill Dec (is my guess )  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 29, 2006, 06:52:58 AM
DSL     139,835
PS2    32,673
PSP    23,118
GBASP    2,145
GBM    1,186
Xbox360    1,109
GC    763
DS    316
GBA    20
Xbox    8
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 29, 2006, 07:16:40 AM
OMG!!! 360 outselling Gamecube! This spells DOOM for the Wii! (No, wait, actually DOOM just came out for the 360...)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on September 29, 2006, 09:50:06 AM
Predictions for next week:

Assuming the two Pokemon games ship 750,000 to 1,000,000 copies each (reasonable? unreasonable?), we should see combined sales anywhere from 1.4-1.8 million. Virtually a complete sellout. It could go even closer to the total sellout number of 2,000,000, but I'm going to be conservative. I highly doubt Nintendo ships less than this. The system numbers become tricky, because we're talking about a rather large install base. However, it is perhaps safe to assume with such a high concentration of the 'non-games' doing well, a large part of the Pokemon audience (many kids) haven't gotten a DS yet. So I expect Nintendo will also virtually sellout of DSLs (totally selling out of the Pokemon version). I suspect they'll have 500,000-800,000 available, but this might be highballing it a lot. So I suspect we'll see 3-5 times what we saw this week, anywhere from 400,000-700,000. Should Nintendo ship as many as 1,000,000 systems, however, we could see a virtual sellout of 800,000-900,000. Do not expect that, however. Because the Pokemon game has likely been sold out, or nearly so, since the first day, a lot of new system purchases will be held off until the next shipment of games. If we take the average DSLs per week at about 135,000, then I would say we'll see about 1.6 to 2 million extra sales over the next 6 weeks (aka. 2.4 to 2.8 million DS systems sold in that period).

In summary:
Pokemon combined sales - 1.7 million (1.4-1.8 range with a 1.2 lowball and 1.9 highball depending on shipments)
System sales next week - 600,000 (450-700 range with a 400 lowball and 850 highball depending on shipments)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MattVDB on September 29, 2006, 12:17:02 PM
http://www.ngcfrance.com/nds_news.php?operande=0&idx=3489&r=1

According to a translation, 1 million copies of each game was shipped, and close, if not all have sold out.  Nintendo also anticipated this demand and shipped 1 million DS Lites.  Both the 2 million Pokemon copies and 500,000 DS Lites sold within a matter of a couple hours.  HOLY FRICK.  Those are some impressive numbers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 29, 2006, 12:39:06 PM
Wait, they shipped a MILLION DS Lites?  If that's true, then 2006 DS pwnership in Japan will go up by, like 10-16% this week!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 29, 2006, 10:59:29 PM
Square really screwed themselves over.. first off, they tell Nintendo that they had better have enough DSes for the launch of FFIII. Then, instead of Nintendo taking the publishing duty, they do that themselves and mess it up badly. Now, instead of selling hundreds of thousands more games, because of the shortages they have way less than the potential. And now Pokemon is going to overshadow it for a long, long time..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 29, 2006, 11:35:36 PM
wait what happen to FFIII, are u saying Square is publishing it and they screwed up producing it?

I'm still very curious about this title, i've read pgc's review and some others and i'm still thinking it will be awesome.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on September 30, 2006, 03:17:15 AM
Well, SqureEnix expressed the concern to Nintendo that they wanted enough DS hardware to be available on FFIII launch day. There were plenty of DS and ultimately (or so i've heard) they sold through 90% of the FFIII copies shipped for launch day. I don't know how it really could have gone better, aside from selling out 100%.

Honestly, I can't see how Pokemon DS wouldn't totally out shadow FFIII. That game is going to be huge.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 02, 2006, 10:07:46 AM
Yeah, having more DS hardware available on launch day wouldn't have helped Final Fantasy III's sales at all.  I think this goes to show that Square Enix underestimated demand for the game: not only did it not produce enough copies, it assumed there'd need to be even more DS owners in order to buy all those copies.

Square can't be too disappointed with that, it means that FFIII's sales are way better than the company planned.  The only way Square Enix could be disappointed with this outcome is if Nintendo has been holding back cartridges on it...which probably is the case, since Nintendo needs them for Pokemon.

Seriously, though, having too many customers is hardly ever a bad thing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2006, 07:38:43 PM
Media Create - Sept. 25th - Oct. 1st

Software:
1. DS Pokemon Diamond - 820,047
2. DS Pokemon Pearl - 768,687
3. PS2 .hack//G.U. Vol.2 - 122,800
4. PS2 Minna no Tennis - 68,755 / 383,545
5. DS New Super Mario Brothers - 57,508 / 3,193,679
6. DS Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS - 45,292
7. DS More Brain Age - 39,897 / 3,261,647
8. DS Final Fantasy III - 39,165 / 751,294
9. PS2 Sangokushi 11 - 29,304
10. DS Animal Crossing Wild World - 26,287 / 3,282,457

Pokemon total: 1,588,734

11. Brain Age
12. Dead Rising
13. Cusine Navigator
14. Mogitate Tingle no Bara Iro no Rupee Land
15. Kuryuu Youma Gakuenki Recharge
16. Tamagotchi 2
17. English Training DS
18. Rhythm Tengoku
19. Poppin' Music 13
20. Eiyuu Densetsu Sora no Kiseki FC
21. Mario Kart DS
22. Rurouni Kenshin Meiji Kenkyaku Rouman Tan'enjou! Kyoto Rinne
23. Mario Hoops 3 -on- 3
24. Aria The Natural
25. Tetris DS
26. Gindamashii DS
27. Nounenrei Nou Stress-kei Atama Scan
28. Rune Factory Shin Bokujou Monogatari
29. Project Sylpheed
30. Monster Hunter Portable PSP The Best

Hardware:
to follow

OMG @ Pokemon O.O
FFIII still selling strong
Dead Rising(a 360 game) actually selling strong at #12!?!?!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 04, 2006, 07:49:35 PM
Hey, you're back - welcome! I was jut going to post about you in the "Missing Poster" thread..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2006, 08:11:53 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Hey, you're back - welcome! I was jut going to post about you in the "Missing Poster" thread..
I'm surprised anyone even noticed. I've been really busy lately.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on October 04, 2006, 08:56:31 PM
I noticed, we always got the charts a day late when you were gone.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on October 05, 2006, 12:21:54 PM
I missed you over in the Sony Getting Hit Hard Lately thread.  Yep Pokemon is truly a monster.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 05, 2006, 05:37:01 PM
DSL     274,389
PS2    31,992
PSP    25,319
Xbox360    2,195
GBASP    1,811
GBM    1,103
GC    523
DS    253
GBA    10
Xbox    3

Ummmmm? That's not impressive. I guess all the current DS owners bought Pokemon first?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 05, 2006, 05:41:47 PM
Wow, Pokemon is a MASSIVE BOMB! This is THE DS high point, it's only downhill from here. Seriously though, DS is still sold out everywhere according to reports.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 05, 2006, 07:06:59 PM
Yeah, I think there still are shortages.. have been for quite a while now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 05, 2006, 07:29:35 PM
Why bother selling any other console in Japan?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 05, 2006, 07:54:11 PM
I think you guys are missing the big news of this week's hardware numbers: The 360 has skyrocketed past the SP and GBM. The console battle is definately heating up in the east.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on October 05, 2006, 08:54:43 PM
Quote

PSP    25,319


PSP. It's Cheese ... with legs.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on October 05, 2006, 09:16:03 PM
I'm looking forward to pokemon and all, but those PS2 games sound pretty good too. Wonder what the odds are of Sangokushi 11 or the entire .hack//GU series making it stateside.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on October 05, 2006, 09:32:04 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
I think you guys are missing the big news of this week's hardware numbers: The 360 has skyrocketed past the SP and GBM. The console battle is definately heating up in the east.


I think I detect /sarcasm...

It skyrockets to 2,000 units lol ; ; Being the only next gen console out too makes it look even worse...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on October 07, 2006, 05:30:08 PM
.Hack//GU is already announced for the US.  The first game is coming I think in November.  Check Gamestop.com for the exact date.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: jasonditz on October 08, 2006, 06:43:15 AM
yeah, the first one is pretty soon, I'm just worried they'll drop PS2 support before they release the last one in the US.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on October 09, 2006, 08:02:30 AM
I don't think so. They are also releasing the anime based on the games and they know they'll have quite a lot of backlash if they don't release everything.  Plus it all still sells well.  The Rebirth novels being released by Tokyopop are doing quite well. I would be very suprised it they aren't all released.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 09, 2006, 11:25:54 AM
Also, don't forget that Sony is relying on the PS2 to keep money rolling in while it tries to get PS3 on its feet.  I'm sure the game will come here.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 11, 2006, 05:34:35 PM
Media Create October 2 - 10 Sales

1. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 263,897
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 254,080 / 1,074,127
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 212,193 / 980,881
4. (PSP, Bandao Namco) Gundam Battle Royale - 64,986
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 40,114 / 3,233,793
6. (DS, Rocket Co.) Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS - 38,799 / 84,091
7. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Tennis - 32,962 / 416,507
8. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 30,418 / 781,713
9. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 26,600 / 3,288,248
10. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 22,787 / 3,305,244

Well, it was fun while it lasted, Pokemon is officially a FLOP and is now down to selling Pokemon Dash type numbers after only ONE WEEK. That was an incredibly short party, looks like it really is just a fad. I thought only FF dropped this big? Pokemon P/D is going to set records alright, to be the quickest game to travel down the chart. Sony capitalising on Nintendos mistakes too by releasing a pretty huge PSP hit, that's gotta hurt for Nintendo to have some random PSP game up there with Pokemon. Sony has all bases covered.

I wonder how low DS hardware sales are going to be now? Last week probably WAS the high point in its lifespan, Nintendo better get more shipments in or they'll be doomed to keep selling a pathetic 200k systems a week.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 11, 2006, 06:04:21 PM
I'm assuming there's enough Pokemon copies, or is there a shortage of those too? And this is what happens to Square - FFIII will never reach its potential in terms of sales now..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 11, 2006, 07:49:53 PM
how many weeks has NSMB been on the Top10 now?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 11, 2006, 07:52:13 PM
20?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on October 12, 2006, 06:16:16 AM
How many weeks has Brain Age 2 and Animal Crossing WW been on the chart now?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2006, 06:35:35 AM
Since they were released last November, in a few weeks it would have been one year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on October 12, 2006, 10:45:45 AM
They may just drop off right before that year at this point.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 12, 2006, 11:12:57 AM
They should make it, as next week the non-DS games will likely fall below the 20,000 mark.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on October 12, 2006, 11:21:56 AM
i think the numbers of the pokemon game should be looked at as one, because if it was just one game, it would sell the same amount of copies, perhaps more because people wouldn't wait to see which one is potentially better.

2,055,008 copies is pretty good i think.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 12, 2006, 12:45:41 PM
...but what about obsessives that buy both copies?

The sales are impressive regardless.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on October 12, 2006, 01:50:19 PM
impressive indeed, 3 titles selling over 3.25 million units, Pokemon (combined) for 2.05 million, and FFIII for 780,000. That's over 6 million copies for Nintendo in the top 10. The competition from Sony (combined) doesn't even add up to .75 million games sold (748k and change). If i've done my math right that is an 8:1 prefrence for Nintendo in the top 10.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 12, 2006, 04:29:38 PM
North America for September! Nice.

Software sales

1. Madden NFL 2007
2. Saints Row - Xbox 360 - 450.000
3. LEGO Star Wars 2 - PS2 - 349.000
4. Pokémon Mystery Dungeon : Blue Rescue Team - NDS - 285.000
5. Pokémon Mystery Dungeon : Red Rescue Team - GBA - 219.000
6. LEGO Star Wars 2 - NGC - 170.000
7. New Super Mario Bros. - NDS - 134.000
8. LEGO Star Wars 2 - Xbox 360 - 113.000
9. LEGO Star Wars 2 - Xbox - 109.000

Hardware sales

1. Nintendo DS Lite - 403.435 - (6.246.000)
2. PlayStation 2 - 306.517 - (34.612.000)
3. Xbox 360 - 259.458 - (2.672.000)
4. Game Boy Advance - 177.145 - (31.876.000)
5. PlayStation Portable - 153.353 - (5.175.000)
6. GameCube - 42.286 - (11.165.000)
7. Xbox - 6.495 - (14.302.000)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2006, 04:35:26 PM
September US NPD

Game Boy Advance 177,145
GameCube 42,286
Nintendo DS 403,435
PlayStation 2 306,517
PlayStation Portable 153,353
Xbox 6,495
Xbox 360 259,458

DS > GBA > PSP
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 12, 2006, 07:27:08 PM
I wonder how much Mario has sold in total here?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 12, 2006, 11:35:30 PM
OMG the PS2 is still beating out the 360, wtf!  LOL.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on October 13, 2006, 12:22:33 AM
It'll probably outsell PS3 as well...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 13, 2006, 01:07:24 AM
Ouch looks like the gap is widening by quite a bit between DS and PSP similar to what started to happen in Japan when DS started to pull away.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on October 13, 2006, 02:50:22 AM
i think FFIII will do better over here. Japan already played it, there are people here who don't know what a ROM is and would like to play the game. The english ROM stopped working for me after the fifth battle I encountered, so I will definitely be picking this up.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 13, 2006, 05:42:05 AM
So far 360 sales are pretty Fawful considering it's the only next-gen home console.  If sales don't take off this Christmas, Microsoft's lead could evaporate pretty quickly.  That said, kudos to Microsoft for trying to make a profit, and certainly 360 will have by far the largest game lineup well into 2007 which should help it.

Go DS!  It'll be fun to see if it can continue to outsell PSP in spite of the GTA launch.

Edit: for reference, according to the August numbers (which had total sales this year) plus these ones, New SMB sales are at: 1,342,000 so far.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Aussiedude on October 13, 2006, 05:52:57 AM
Japanese hardware sales - Oct 2 - 8

1. DS Lite - 124,137
2. PS2 - 28,264
3. PSP - 21,050
4. Xbox 360 - 2,101
5. Game Boy Advance SP - 1,532
6. Game Boy Micro - 1,273
7. Cube - 488
8. DS - 260
9. Game Boy Advance - 12
10. Xbox - 8
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on October 13, 2006, 09:42:43 AM
I'd like to know where nearly 6500 Xboxes were found new in the US.  I can't find a system anywhere I look.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 18, 2006, 07:42:22 PM
Media Create Oct 9th - 15th

Software:
1. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 159,443 / 1,233,570
2. (GBA, Square-Enix) Final Fantasy V Advance - 124,840
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 116,051 / 1,096,932
4. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 67,642 / 331,540
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 40,609 / 3,274,402
6. (DS, Rocket Co.) Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS - 36,622 /120,713
7. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 25,758 / 3,314,005
8. (PS2, SCE) Bleach Blade Battlers - 25,203
9. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 23,627 / 3,328,871
10. (PS2, SCE) Minna no Tennis - 22,599 / 439,106
~
11. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy III - 20,000 / 802,000
12. Gundam Battle Royale
13. Brain Age
14. DS Cuisine Navigator
15. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 12,000 / 1,692,000
16. (GBA, Nintendo) Rhythm Tengoku - 11,000 / 223,000
17. English Training DS
18. Tamagotchi 2
19. (DS, Nintendo) Tingle DS - 9,900 / 154,000
20. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Hoops 3 on 3 - 8,800 / 353,000
21. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 8,000 / 870,000
22. Driver: Parallel Lines
23. Sangokushi 11
24. .hack vol. 2
25. Monster Hunter Portable PSP The Best
26. Simple Series Vol. 109 The Taxi 2
27. Rouruni Kenshin
28. Kawaii Koinu (Ko Inu) DS
29. Big Brain Academy
30. (DS, Marvelous) Rune Factory - 3,600 / 89,000
~
36. (DS, Capcom) Phoenix Wright Best Price - 3,300 / 96,000
40. (DS, Sega) Atama Scan - 2,600 / 61,000
41. (PSP, SCE) Loco Roco - 2,600 / 112,000
43. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Tales of Phantasia Full Voice Edition - 2,600 / 99,000
45. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Ridge Racers 2 - 2,400 / 47,000
46. (DS, Konami) Power Pro Kun Baseball Koushien - 2,3000 / 83,000
48. (DS, Bandai Namco) Digimon Story - 2,300 / 208,000
50. (DS, Sega) Mushiking 2 - 2,200 / 93,000
61. (DS, Konami) Kirarin Revolution: Auditions for Kira Kira Idol - 1,900 / 87,000
70. (PSP) Dungeon Maker - 1,600 / 8,000
72. (PSP, Bandai Namco) SD Gundam G Generation Portable 1,600 / 257,000
79. (PS2, Sega) Phantasy Star Universe - 1,400 / 166,000

Hardware:
To Follow
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on October 18, 2006, 09:40:50 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Aussiedude
Japanese hardware sales - Oct 2 - 8

1. DS Lite - 124,137
2. PS2 - 28,264
3. PSP - 21,050
4. Xbox 360 - 2,101
5. Game Boy Advance SP - 1,532
6. Game Boy Micro - 1,273
7. Cube - 488
8. DS - 260
9. Game Boy Advance - 12
10. Xbox - 8


Gameboy Advances combined to also outsell the 360...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 19, 2006, 12:05:23 AM
This is a long list, but I thought you guys might want to see it.

Japan's Top 100 handheld games from March 27th - Oct. 1st

From the latest Famitsu.
No LTDs, unfortunately.

1. DS New Super Mario Bros - Nintendo - 3,150,716
2. DS Pokemon Diamond / Pearl - Pokemon - 1,586,360
3. DS More Brain Age - Nintendo - 1,570,965
4. DS Brain Age - Nintendo - 919,443
5. DS Animal Crossing - Nintendo - 891,674
6. DS Tetris DS - Nintendo - 851,294
7. DS Final Fantasy III - Square Enix - 771,925
8. DS English Training - Nintendo - 686,212
9. DS Talking DS Cooking Navi - Nintendo - 525,268
10. DS Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 - Bandai Namco - 519,127

11. DS Pokemon Ranger - Pokemon - 434,283
12. DS Mario Kart DS - Nintendo - 364,641
13. GBA Mother 3 - Nintendo - 360,964
14. DS Mario Basketball 3 on 3 - Nintendo - 318,871
15. PSP SD Gundam G Generation Portable - Bandai Namco - 255,493
16. DS Digimon Story - Bandai Namco - 204,755
17. GBA Rhythm Tengoku - Nintendo - 172,710
18. DS Starfy 4 - Nintendo - 158,856
19. PSP Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable - Konami - 149,190
20. DS Nintendogs - Nintendo - 144,385

21. PSP Dragonball Z - Bandai Namco - 139,765
22. DS Tingle RPG - Nintendo - 136,670
23. DS Sudoku - Hudson - 136,236
24. PSP LocoRoco - SCE - 124,970
25. DS Naruto 4 DS - Takara Tomy - 116,243
26. PSP Tekken Dark Resurrection - Bandai Namco - 112,197
27. PSP DQ&FF in Itadaki Street Portable - Square Enix - 109,859
28. PSP Derby Stallion P - Enterbrain - 105,708
29. PSP Monster Hunter Portable - Capcom - 104,680
30. DS Kanji-input Easy Dictionary - Nintendo - 103,238

31. PSP Kazuo (aka Sudoku) - SCE - 102,684
32. DS Children of Mana - Square Enix - 99,801
33. DS DS Seminar: Kanji Power - TDK Core - 95,579
34. PSP My Summer Vacation Portable - SCE - 94,978
35. GBA Famicom Mini Super Mario Brothers - Nintendo - 94,528
36. DS Clubhouse Games - Nintendo - 93,917
37. PSP Tales of Phantasia Full Voice - Bandai Namco - 93,351
38. DS Megaman ZX - Capcom - 91,846
39. DS Mushiking 2 - Sega - 89,609
40. DS Rune Factory - MMV - 87,965

41. DS Metroid Prime Hunters - Nintendo - 87,542
42. DS Big Brain Academy - Nintendo - 87,320
43. DS Teadog's Room DS - MTO - 82,889
44. DS Phoenix Wright (best price) - Capcom - 81,765
45. PSP Brain Trainer Portable 2 - Sega - 81,571
46. DS Project Hacker - Nintendo - 81,220
47. DS Starfox Command - Nintendo - 80,483
48. DS Power Pro-kun's DS Koushien - Konami - 79,992
49. DS Naruto RPG 3 - Takara Tomy - 77,560
50. DS Kirarin Revolution: Idol Audition - Konami - 74,891

51. GBA Mother 1+2 (value selection) - Nintendo - 74,541
52. PSP Bleach Heat the Soul 3 - SCE - 74,384
53. DS Wario Ware Touched - Nintendo - 74,165
54. PSP Monster Hunter Portable (the best) - Capcom - 73,332
55. DS Tamagotchi Corner Shop - Bandai Namco - 73,040
56. PSP Aha Taiken - Sega - 72,827
57. DS Super Mario 64 DS - Nintendo - 68,189
58. DS Kanji Test DS - Rocket Co. - 67,153
59. DS Travel Phrasebook DS 4: America - Nintendo - 66,615
60. PSP Naruto: Narutimate Portable - Bandai Namco - 59,070

61. DS Keroro Gunsou - Bandai Namco - 57,603
62. DS Brain Stress count: Head Scan - Sega - 54,780
63. PSP Valkyrie Profile Lenneth - Square Enix - 54,430
64. DS Right Brain Master: Gun Bullet Trainer - Bandai Namco - 54,336
65. GBA Pokemon Emerald - Pokemon - 53,746
66. DS Right Brain Master: Spot the Difference - Bandai Namco - 52,992
67. PSP Talkman - SCE - 52,135
68. DS Mario & Luigi RPG 2 - Nintendo - 51,379
69. GBA Crayon Shin-chan - Banpresto - 51,280
70. PSP Valhalla Knights - MMV - 49,107

71. PSP Everybody's Gold Portable (the best) - SCE - 47,068
72. DS Magical Vacation: When the 5 Stars Align - Nintendo - 45,713
73. PSP Pachislot! Fist of the North Star SE - Sega - 44,951
74. PSP Evangelion 2: Man-made World another cases - Bandai Namco - 44,922
75. PSP Ridge Racers 2 - Bandai Namco - 44,812
76. DS Travel Phrasebook DS 3: S.Korea - Nintendo - 44,750
77. DS Dragonball Z - Bandai Namco - 44,570
78. DS San-X Land - MTO - 44,349
79. PSP Dokodemo Issho: Let's School! - SCE - 44,229
80. PSP Goku Makaimura - Capcom - 43,875

81. DS Turn! Connect! Touch Panic - Nintendo - 43,730
82. DS Giant Mecha MG - Nintendo - 43,397
83. GBA Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green - Pokemon - 42,991
84. DS Cooking Mama - Taito - 42,518
85. DS Pachislot! Fist of the North Star SE - Sega - 40,073
86. DS IQ Teacher DS - IE Institute - 39,925
87. PSP Shin Sangoku Musou 2nd Evolution - Koei - 39,919
88. PSP Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous (the best) - Konami - 39,679
89. PSP Everybody's Map - Zenrin - 39,265
90. DS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon Blue - Pokemon - 38,553

91. DS Travel Phrasebook DS 2: China - Nintendo - 38,377
92. DS Right Brain Kids DS - IE Institute - 37,468
93. PSP Daito Pachislot: Osu Banchou Portable - Daito - 37,420
94. PSP Mah Jong Fight Club (the best) - Konami - 36,975
95. DS Gintama DS - Bandai Namco - 36,883
96. DS Touch! Bomberman Land - Hudson - 36,054
97. DS Simple series 8: The Judge - D3 Publisher - 34,855
98. DS DS Seminar: English Power - TDK Core - 33,805
99. DS Chocodog's Shop - TDK Core - 33,620
100. PSP Taiko Drum Master Portable 2 - Bandai Namco - 33,021

----------------------------------GAF analysys on the above below--------------------------------

NDS - 62
PSP - 31
GBA - 7

NDS: 16,145,458 | 83.06%
PSP: 2,442,842 | 12.56%
GBA: 850,760 | 4.38%
Total: 19,439,060

Total DS third party sales: 3,713,078
Total PSP third party sales: 1,865,419
Total DS third party sales lead: 1,847,659

Average DS third party sales: 112,518
Average PSP third party sales: 77,726

Median DS third party sales: 73,040
Median PSP third party sales: 56,750

----------------------------------------

regardless of how well Nintendo is doing on the DS its good to see that 3rd parties are still selling better on the DS than they are on the PSP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 19, 2006, 01:45:08 AM
Tie-in ratio. Gotta love it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on October 19, 2006, 04:07:32 AM
>35. GBA Famicom Mini Super Mario Brothers - Nintendo - 94,528

Wow... talk about legs, what... 25-ish years later?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 19, 2006, 06:46:17 AM
On the sales of Super Mario Bros...this is why I defy anyone who says people won't pay $5 for NES games on the Virtual Console.

That top 100 was really interesting, BlknMild, thanks!  I liked seeing where less-popular games like Megaman ZX fell in.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on October 19, 2006, 06:59:23 AM
Bummer that FFIII fell off the top ten. Looks like the Squeenix <--> Ninty love is teh doomed from teh start!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on October 19, 2006, 07:34:25 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
That top 100 was really interesting, BlknMild, thanks!  I liked seeing where less-popular games like Megaman ZX fell in.


Yeah, I was especially amazed at the performance of Mushi King 2, considering how well the GBA one did. So much for this being Sega's "Pokémon"...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 19, 2006, 10:27:11 AM
6. (DS, Rocket Co.) Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS - 36,622 /120,713

That title is made of PWN. Or at least a lot of K.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 19, 2006, 01:15:43 PM
You're going to be surprised by the next sales chart from Japan. Apparently MS sold over 10,000 (pre orders) systems due to the Blue Dragon bundle.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=147838

Edit - actually, now that I think about it, you won't be surprised, because I just told you. Try to act surprised anyway, it'll be fun.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on October 19, 2006, 01:20:54 PM
I hope the old DS dies all right instead of lingers around forever like GBA is.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 19, 2006, 01:34:24 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
You're going to be surprised by the next sales chart from Japan. Apparently MS sold over 10,000 (pre orders) systems due to the Blue Dragon bundle.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=147838

Edit - actually, now that I think about it, you won't be surprised, because I just told you. Try to act surprised anyway, it'll be fun.

Not only the 10,000 preorders of the Blue Dragon bundle, but the are also rapidly going through the 90,000 other systems that have been sitting on the shelves since launch too. Blue Dragon is just the game that the Japanese have been waiting for and since the PS3 is only going to have about 100,000 systems in Nov., the 360 could really help seal Sony's fate in Japan if the sales trend keeps up during and after the release of  Blue Bragon.

We all know that the DS is unstoppable and we also know that the Wii will sellout at launch. If the 360 picks up steam, will there literally be room left for sony and their >Xbox sized PS3 in Japanese homes?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on October 19, 2006, 03:23:11 PM
Oh god. Just when I thought that Japan was decided and I wouldn't need to worry about it anymore... *throws his hands up in the air in frustration*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 19, 2006, 04:26:22 PM
I wouldn't worry too much, Kairon
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 19, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
When a system that has been out for almost a year can't even manage 100,000 system sales with a killer app...it's not doing very well.

DSL     104,487
PS2    24,727
PSP    21,603
GBASP    2,299
Xbox360    1,743
GBM    1,714
GC    653
DS    273
GBA    37
Xbox    3
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 19, 2006, 05:07:42 PM
Yeah, 360 is dead in the water.  Blue Dragon will sell a few tens of thousands of systems, and then Wii will come out and pwn all.  He heh, well maybe not...I mean, Microsoft has a few more RPGs up it's sleeve, so there's the slight chance that this is the start of something, but I'll believe it when I see it.  Or when Square Enix suddenly announces a FFXIII port to 360.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on October 19, 2006, 06:49:16 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Yeah, 360 is dead in the water.  Blue Dragon will sell a few tens of thousands of systems, and then Wii will come out and pwn all.  He heh, well maybe not...I mean, Microsoft has a few more RPGs up it's sleeve, so there's the slight chance that this is the start of something, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I think it's interesting how everyone assumed that with the announcement of Dead or Alive, 360 would start selling. The console hardly sold but it had a huge penetration rate amongst owners of the console. Then everyone said the same of Dead Rising. Same result. There may be a micro-rush for a limited edition console or something,but Blue Drag isn't going to creative massive attention for 360 in Japan. Yes, essentialy every 360 owner will buy it. Even with both of them behind it though, it'll be another installment in a long line of Japanese games that everyone called "Teh great MS hope" that ultimately do nothing to prevent MS from falling further and further into oblivion.


Quote

Or when Square Enix suddenly announces a FFXIII port to 360.


lol ok
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 19, 2006, 11:11:19 PM
Artimus: Remember, PREORDERS. It's not out yet and it won't be counted until it is.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on October 20, 2006, 05:48:56 AM
I know, KDR. If there were 10,000 preorders then it selling less than 2000 systems would make no sense.

It still has zero chance of reviving the system.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: capamerica on October 20, 2006, 06:52:56 AM
If Microsoft really wanted to increase sales of the Xbox360 in Japan they should drop a large sack of money on Square's door step and get a port of FFXIII. Think about it who would be stupid enough to continue to go with the PS3 when they can save $200 by going with a 360 instead.

The only thing keeping Sony afloat is the extreamly few exclusive titles they have left. If they were to lose Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid its game over.

I'm still more then willing to bet that before Metal Gear Solid 4 is released we'll be hearing that a port will be coming to the Xbox360. Final Fantasy on the other hand I'm still unsure, but maybe if PS3 sales are very poor Square will port it. They have hinted that its not out of the question so who knows maybe we'll get a 360 and PC port.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 20, 2006, 07:16:54 AM
If Microsoft really wanted to increase sales of the Xbox360 in Japan they should drop a large sack of money on Square's door step and get a port of FFXIII. Think about it who would be stupid enough to continue to go with the PS3 when they can save $200 by going with a 360 instead.

I have a feeling Sony will toss them an even larger bag of cash in that case.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2006, 09:23:06 AM
Hopefully the battery issues continue to get out of hand, then that bag of cash will shrink to a bag of peanuts with the PS3 logo on it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on October 20, 2006, 10:24:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: capamerica
I'm still more then willing to bet that before Metal Gear Solid 4 is released we'll be hearing that a port will be coming to the Xbox360. Final Fantasy on the other hand I'm still unsure, but maybe if PS3 sales are very poor Square will port it. They have hinted that its not out of the question so who knows maybe we'll get a 360 and PC port.


I disagree Cap'n.

MGS 4 is intensely centered on what Kojima wants, I think, and I'd think that Hideo I-want-to-be-an-auteur-and-the-next-Kurosawa Kojima would feel his magnum opus would be "purer" on one console as opposed to having two different versions, one or the other being inferior.

Besides, MGS4 is supposed to be pumping tons of power out of the PS3. I doubt that Konami Koders would be very happy with having to build an entirely new uber-ambitious engine from scrath for the X360.

BUT...

FFXIII I CAN see mechanically being possible to switch over to the X360. After all, it's just some pretty graphics, unambitious real time play elements, and cut scenes. The problem here is whether ANY amount of many would convince Square to release their flagship titles on a system that hasn't even moved 250,000(?) in Japan in about a yead...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 20, 2006, 12:18:42 PM
I disagree, Kairon.  Everything you just said about MGS4 applied to MGS2 on Playstation 2, but they ported it to Xbox anyway.

As for Final Fantasy XIII, I don't think a port to 360 is very likely, but I guess it could happen if PS3 flops.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 20, 2006, 01:29:04 PM
 Forget 360, it should be ported to the Wii.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on October 20, 2006, 05:11:33 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I disagree, Kairon.  Everything you just said about MGS4 applied to MGS2 on Playstation 2, but they ported it to Xbox anyway.


MGS2 for the Xbox came a full year later than the PS2 offering though, and was never even released in Japan (which is a common scenario with a lot of multi-platform games for the system there).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 20, 2006, 10:28:03 PM
Another possiblity is that MS already offered money for those games but got told off.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on October 21, 2006, 11:19:57 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Another possiblity is that MS already offered money for those games but got told off.


Ya know, you're probably right. Good point. I'll bet MS offered a LOT to get MGS4 lol. I think in the end though, MGS4 will probably be ported to 360.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 22, 2006, 06:11:18 AM
MGS4 Sustenance, probably.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Neodymium on October 22, 2006, 03:01:13 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Hocotate
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Another possiblity is that MS already offered money for those games but got told off.


Ya know, you're probably right. Good point. I'll bet MS offered a LOT to get MGS4 lol. I think in the end though, MGS4 will probably be ported to 360.


Substance sold like crap and Kojima has said he wants to stay on Sony.

Hence MGS3 never saw an Xbox version.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chzn8r on October 25, 2006, 03:19:01 PM
Stolen from GAF:

Media Create Sales: 16 - 22 Oct

1 NDS Pokemon Diamond - 138,000 / 1,371,000
2 NDS Pokemon Pearl - 94,000 / 1,191,000
3 PS2 Captain Tsubasa - 42,000 / NEW
4 NDS Kanken DS - 36,000 / 157,000
5 NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo - 34,000 / NEW
6 GBA Final Fantasy V Advance - 32,000 / 157,000
7 NDS New SMB - 30,000 / 3,304,000
8 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 28,000 / 360,000
9 NDS More Brain Age - 22,000 / 3,336,000
10 NDS Animal Crossing Wild World - 20,000 / 3,349,000

Nothing new here, move along.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2006, 10:44:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chzn8r
Stolen from GAF:

Media Create: Oct. 16th - 22nd

Software
01 NDS Pokemon Diamond (Nintendo) - 137,629 / 1,371,199
02 NDS Pokemon Pearl (Nintendo) - 94,350 / 1,191,282
03 PS2 Captain Tsubasa (Namco-Bandai) - 41,708 / *NEW*
04 NDS Kanji Quiz DS (Rocket Company) - 35,911 / 156,624
05 NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo (Nintendo) - 34,304 / *NEW*
06 GBA Final Fantasy V Advance (Square-Enix) - 32,329 / 157,169
07 NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 29,965 / 3,304,367
08 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo (Namco-Bandai) - 28,042 / 359,582
09 NDS More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 22,006 / 3,336,012
10 NDS Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo) - 20,406 / 3,349,277
~
11 PS2 Minna no Tennis (SCE)
12 NDS Final Fantasy III (Square-Enix)
13 NDS Brain Age (Nintendo)
14 NDS Engrish Training (Nintendo)
15 NDS Mario Kart (Nintendo)
16 NDS Cooking Navi (Nintendo)
17 PS2 Gift -prism- (Sweets)
18 NDS Tamagotchi Shop 2 (Namco-Bandai)
19 PSP Gundam Battle Royal (Namco-Bandai)
20 PS2 Bleach Blade Battlers (SCE)
21 GBA Rhythm Tengoku (Nintendo)
22 NDS Tingle Rupyland (Nintendo)
23 NDS Tetris DS (Nintendo)
24 PSP HomeStar Portable (Sega)
25 NDS Mario Hoops 3 on 3 (Nintendo)
26 PS2 Sangokushi 11 (Koei)
27 PSP Monster Hunter Portable [PSP The Best] (Capcom)
28 PS2 Driver: Parallel Lines (AQI)
29 GBA Pokemon Emerald (Nintendo)
30 NDS Big Brain Academy (Nintendo

Hardware:
to follow

Quoted, Edited and Updated

3 3mill+ sellers still in the Top 10.... and will FFIII keep selling strong?
Anyone wanna place bets on how long Pokemon is gonna be in the Top 2? Top 5? Top 10?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on October 26, 2006, 07:26:40 AM
Nintendo should have a huge vault full of money like Scrooge McDuck.  I would swim in it every time I released a huge batch of DS Lites only to wind up with shortages again a week later.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 26, 2006, 07:00:21 PM
Media Create: Oct. 16th - 22nd

1. DS Lite - 116,941
2. PS2 - 22,380
3. PSP - 20,271
4. GBA SP - 2,421
5. GB Micro - 1,660
6. Xbox 360 - 1,287
7. Cube - 638
8. DS - 130
9. GBA - 12
10. Xbox - 6


nothing new, really....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on October 26, 2006, 08:09:34 PM
At this rate, the DS Lite is in danger of not outselling the PS3 on launch week.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2006, 08:30:26 PM
I really hope Nintendo is actually holding back some of the DS supply for strategic shipments, such as the day before PS3 Launch and restock the day of PS3 launch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 31, 2006, 09:24:06 AM
DS Wins, PSP cold death lol

September's NPD U.S. game sale stats just hit and man do they look ugly for the Playstation Portable.  From August 29 to September 30 403,435 DSes were sold, but only 153,353 Playstation Portables were picked up.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on October 31, 2006, 09:38:28 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario - October 12, 2006... Three Pages Ago
September US NPD

Game Boy Advance 177,145
GameCube 42,286
Nintendo DS 403,435
PlayStation 2 306,517
PlayStation Portable 153,353
Xbox 6,495
Xbox 360 259,458

DS > GBA > PSP
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 31, 2006, 10:11:33 AM
I can't be arsed to read back that far, considering that I like to post info that is obvious or already been posted.


I did it to clarify a point.  Yeah, to clarify a point.

=D
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clintonmanual on October 31, 2006, 11:13:21 AM
see ds rules psp AROUND THE WORLD... muah ha ha.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2006, 08:39:24 AM
Media Create - Oct. 23rd - 29th

Software:
1. (DS, Nintendo) General Knowledge Training DS - 189,700
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 127,011 / 1,498,210
3. (DS, Namco) Tales of the Tempest - 88,137
4. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 85,530 / 1,276,812
5. (PS2, Aquaplus) Utawareru Mono Chiriyuku Mono e-no Komori Uta - 82,343
6. (PSP, Bandai Namco) ACE COMBAT X Skies of Deception - 60,584
7. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Jojo no Kimyou na Bouken: Phantom Blood - 34,070
8. (DS, Rocket Company) JLAA Official Kanji Kentei DS - 31,108 / 187,732
9. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 30,885 / 3,335,253
10. (PS2, Sega) Yakuza PS2 The Best - 29,854
~
11. Pachipara 12
12. More Brain Age
13. Phoenix Wright 2
14. Negima DS
15. Animal Crossing Wild World
16. Custom Robo
17. Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo
18. Final Fantasy V Advance
19. Final Fantasy III
20. Minna no Tennis
21. Brain Age
22. Captain Tsubasa
23. Shinseki GPX Cyber Formula
24. English Training DS
25. Mario Kart DS
26. DS Cusine Navigator
27. Pinky Street
28. Mizu no Senritsu 2
29. Tamagotchi 2
30. Lode Runner DS

Hardware:
DSL 158,681
PSP 25,908
PS2 21,832
GBASP 1,858
Xbox360 1,565
GBM 1,351
GC 644
DS 114
GBA 15
Xbox 7
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 01, 2006, 05:26:01 PM
Ooh, Tales was released.. how long until it gets here?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on November 02, 2006, 05:11:04 AM
What General Knowledge do the Japanese need to be trained in?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 02, 2006, 05:39:06 AM
I want pokemon!

PS2 is outselling Xbox360?

PS3 is going to flop... Oh wait, that hasn't come out yet.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 02, 2006, 06:29:09 AM
General Knowledge training?  DS is becoming a one-hit wonder.  Once people realize that there's nothing to do with it but training they'll realize it's just the homework system and they'll buy a PSP for it's superior lineup of Gundam and Namco games.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 02, 2006, 07:45:43 AM
according to Famitsu



DSL: 143,155
PSP: 22,269
PS2: 20,297
GBASP: 2,214
X360: 1,236
GBM: 1543
DS: 604
GC: 589
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on November 02, 2006, 09:01:24 AM
If I were Nintendo, I would release a new color (a limited edition Zelda DS) the day before the PS3 launch with 400,000 units in tow. Also, I would start a package deal that somehow includes the limited edition Zelda DS, Zelda TP, and the Wii.

Money in the bank...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 02, 2006, 09:20:49 AM
I would buy a Triforce Gold Zelda DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 02, 2006, 09:55:57 PM
Custom Robo DS sounded good in a review I read...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 02, 2006, 11:06:00 PM
^^^media create hardware updated^^^

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DSL 158,681
PSP 25,908
PS2 21,832
GBASP 1,858
Xbox360 1,565
GBM 1,351
GC 644
DS 114
GBA 15
Xbox 7
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 02, 2006, 11:41:02 PM
Nice, DSL numbers went up. Man, I just can't wait to see the sales figures once PS3 and Wii launch. I'm going to love seeing Wii and DSL the top 2 systems in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2006, 06:01:38 PM
Media Create - Oct. 30th - Nov. 5th

Software:
1. (DS, Nintendo) Hoshi no Kirby DS - 166,131 / NEW
2. (DS, Nintendo) Common Sense Training - 159,166 / 348,866
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 105,943 / 1,604,152
4. (DS, Konami) Wining Eleven DS - 89,275 / NEW
5. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 81,604 / 1,358,416
6. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 31,307 / 3,366,560
7. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age 2 - 27,448 / 3,387,842
8. (DS, Rocket Company) JLAA Official Kanji Kentei DS - 22,824 / 210,556
9. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 20,691 / 3,389,974
10. (PSP, Bandai-Namco) Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception - 17,961 / 78,545
~
XX. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 187,547 / 2,962,568
~
11/ Tales of the Tempest (NDS, Namco)
12/ Yakuza - The Best (PS2, Sega)
13/ Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo)
14/ Custom Robo Arena (NDS, Nintendo)
15/ Everybody's Tennis (PS2, Sony)
16/ Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (PS2, Bandai)
17/ English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
18/ Talking Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
19/ Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
20/ Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square-Enix)
21/ Phoenix Wright 2 (NDS, Capcom)
22/ Pachinko Paradise 13 (PS2, Irem)
23/ Tamagotchi 2 (NDS, Bandai)
24/ Utawereru Mono (PS2, AQUAPLUS)
25/ Final Fantasy V (GBA, Square-Enix)
26/ Gallop Racer Inbreed (PS2, Tecmo)
27/ Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
28/ Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Phantom Blood (PS2, Bandai)
29/ Captain Tsubasa (PS2, Bandai)
30/ Rhythm Tengoku (GBA, Nintendo)

Hardware:
to follow  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 08, 2006, 06:41:10 PM
Wow! Supreme top ten domination again. How many Wii units is Japan getting at launch, should be a quite interesting battle between the DS and the Wii for superiority.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2006, 07:07:04 PM
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
Wow! Supreme top ten domination again. How many Wii units is Japan getting at launch, should be a quite interesting battle between the DS and the Wii for superiority.
Last report I heard was 400k for Japan, 400k for Euro and 1 million for U.S. @ launch, but restock is every 3 days in Japan and Europe, not so sure about U.S.(another 1 million before end of 2006).

 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2006, 07:32:40 PM
Awesome. I love Wednesday's. Great to see the Kirby love in Japan. I know I'll be getting it first day of release. I'm also enjoying the battle between the 3 million sellers. Animal Crossing still has sold more but Brain Age 2 looks like it might surpass it next week. New Super Mario Bros. however may pass them Brain Age however, in two or 3 weeks. And coming up fast behind them is the Pokemon games together. Just awesome sales.

It's also good to see Rhythm Tengoku back on the list. I hope that game can keep selling. I'd welcome it here in North America. Yes, Vudu. I share your love of it too. Custom Robo doesn't seem to be doing to good on the other hand. Or has the series always been like this?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 08, 2006, 09:25:40 PM
A NeoGaf forums poster has come up with a quick little history of the DS' performance in Japan through pictures.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 08, 2006, 10:20:00 PM
Nice! 9/10 are DS games^^ I'm glad to see Kirby doing so well too. The only thing is Tales of the Tempest droped off the top 10 ; ; It should be #10, knock off that PSP game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 08, 2006, 10:27:49 PM
Custom Robo doesn't seem to be doing to good on the other hand. Or has the series always been like this?

Dunno, seems to be standard non-superhit game performance.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: redgiemental on November 08, 2006, 11:43:05 PM
Sorry to be off topis but where did you hear that restock is every 3 days in Europe as I'm stuck without a preorder I'd like to know when I'm likely to be able to pick one up. A 3 day wait I could more than live with.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 09, 2006, 12:20:06 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: redgiemental
Sorry to be off topis but where did you hear that restock is every 3 days in Europe as I'm stuck without a preorder I'd like to know when I'm likely to be able to pick one up. A 3 day wait I could more than live with.
I saw it posted on NeoGAF

It was translated from some euro site to say that they expect replenishments every three days(for the rest of the year I assume)

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 09, 2006, 05:18:56 AM
Restock every three days?  That's gotta be expensive.  But if it's true, good planning, it means that people will have many chances to get one.

Edit: Just doing some quick n' dirty calculations...if there are 9 more shipments of Wii totalling 600,000 in Japan (just a guess, I don't know if they'll give Japan 1 mil or not) then there'd be 66,666 each shipment...so in Japan Nintendo would be sending out 83% worth of Sony's initial PS3 shipment every three days in December!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 09, 2006, 05:48:34 AM
How long before the DS has more 3million sellers, than the PSP has 1million sellers?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Luigi Dude on November 09, 2006, 06:53:52 AM
It already has.  In Japan, no PSP game has even hit 1 million and I think worldwide only Grand Theft Auto on the PSP has sold over 1 million.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 09, 2006, 07:15:58 AM
I got a question that I'm sure no one here would have the time or patience to figure out.

How many of the top selling DS games would it take to outsell all of the PSP games combined?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on November 09, 2006, 07:42:43 AM
I think Japan and Europe will each get at least 1 million units before the year is out.  Nintendo stated that they expect to ship at least 4 million before January.  That accounts for 1 million in Japan, 1 million in Europe and 2 million in the US.

Back on topic, Brain Age 2, NSMB, AC:WW and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl should all reach at least 3,500,000 by the end of the year in Japan.  Pokemon possibly 4 million if if stays the same speed it's going (in fact, I predicted this speed a while back just before its release).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on November 09, 2006, 07:43:58 AM
I hate it when this thing double posts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 11:11:50 AM
BlackNMild at one point or another it got posted the total shipped games that the PSP had...  If we can get another report like that it be easy.

Back at the Playstation Summit the total number of games sold worldwide for the PSP was reported as 11.7 Million.  Thats a couple months old but they were the newest figures I could fine.  So at the time it only take 4 games in the 3 Million+ category.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 09, 2006, 01:05:34 PM
October NPD!

DS 360k
PS2 235k
360 218k
GBA 169k
PSP 130k

Australian weekly hardware sales!

- PS2 - 7000
- DS - 11000
- PSP - 1800
- 360 - 1700


Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 09, 2006, 01:34:42 PM
Suprise, suprise, 5-year old '2D' GBA outsells the fancy PSP again. PS2 outsells the 360, again. And the DS is bitch smacking everyone else, ... again.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 09, 2006, 03:11:04 PM
I like how PSP is the last one on that list. The only thing is they don't have GCN up there... are the sales that low? ; ;
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 04:03:51 PM
All signs point towards yes.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 09, 2006, 06:53:15 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Media Create - Oct. 30th - Nov. 5th

Software:
1. (DS, Nintendo) Hoshi no Kirby DS - 166,131 / NEW
2. (DS, Nintendo) Common Sense Training - 159,166 / 348,866
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 105,943 / 1,604,152
4. (DS, Konami) Wining Eleven DS - 89,275 / NEW
5. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 81,604 / 1,358,416
6. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 31,307 / 3,366,560
7. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age 2 - 27,448 / 3,387,842
8. (DS, Rocket Company) JLAA Official Kanji Kentei DS - 22,824 / 210,556
9. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 20,691 / 3,389,974
10. (PSP, Bandai-Namco) Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception - 17,961 / 78,545
~
XX. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 187,547 / 2,962,568
~
11/ Tales of the Tempest (NDS, Namco)
12/ Yakuza - The Best (PS2, Sega)
13/ Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo)
14/ Custom Robo Arena (NDS, Nintendo)
15/ Everybody's Tennis (PS2, Sony)
16/ Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (PS2, Bandai)
17/ English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
18/ Talking Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
19/ Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
20/ Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square-Enix)
21/ Phoenix Wright 2 (NDS, Capcom)
22/ Pachinko Paradise 13 (PS2, Irem)
23/ Tamagotchi 2 (NDS, Bandai)
24/ Utawereru Mono (PS2, AQUAPLUS)
25/ Final Fantasy V (GBA, Square-Enix)
26/ Gallop Racer Inbreed (PS2, Tecmo)
27/ Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
28/ Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Phantom Blood (PS2, Bandai)
29/ Captain Tsubasa (PS2, Bandai)
30/ Rhythm Tengoku (GBA, Nintendo)

Hardware:
DSL 113,097
PSP 23,725
PS2 20,982
Xbox360 6,580
GBASP 1,443
GBM 1,299
GC 647
DS 373
GBA 20
Xbox 0
updated

and some extra little tidbits from another source

Quote

The DS/L broke the 12m mark this week!
L-T-D m-create: 12,062,092!!!
That's more than the original GBA, the GBC, the GBP, and just under the original Game Boy LTD!!

It took the PS2 184 weeks to reach 12m...
the DS nearly half that time in...102 weeks!!


and Xbox 360 core pack was released last week for all of those wondering why the 360 sales jumped.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on November 09, 2006, 07:50:31 PM
Wow, xbox fell to zero again.  Suprise suprise.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 10, 2006, 04:36:55 AM
DS has won North America, and judging by horrific sales of the expensive PSP and Xbox 360, Wii is prepared to do the same.  Nintendo should hire Ricardo Montalban just to laugh with them!  AH HA HA HA HAAA!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 10, 2006, 12:10:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
DS has won North America, and judging by horrific sales of the expensive PSP and Xbox 360, Wii is prepared to do the same.  Nintendo should hire Ricardo Montalban just to laugh with them!  AH HA HA HA HAAA!
So, does that mean then that Sony would be shouting, "KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!" ?

I don't like the implications... You know that Kahn was ultimately defeated in the end by Kirk...

Perhaps we could just go with a Simpson's reference, Nelson saying, "HA HA!"  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 10, 2006, 08:41:52 PM
Hm, seems the PS3 just came out over there. Will be funny to see it buried under the DS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 11, 2006, 02:09:55 AM
Supposedly, Sony only shipped half of their announced launch totals, which means about 40-50k PS3 actually made it to stores. Even if they ship the other 40-50k PS3's before the weekly count is over, DS will still sell about 40-50k more units than Sony was even able to ship to stores.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 11, 2006, 05:58:00 AM
Gooooooooooo DS! This is going to be the most exciting week ever. Let's just pray the DS holds!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 11, 2006, 06:00:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Gooooooooooo DS! This is going to be the most exciting week ever. Let's just pray the DS holds!


Actually, due to hype and consumer turnout, I expect the PS3 to be number 1, defeating the DS. BUT will drop rather fast as Sony fails to meet the high demand while DS Lites will still be available.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: clintonmanual on November 11, 2006, 06:32:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Gooooooooooo DS! This is going to be the most exciting week ever. Let's just pray the DS holds!


Actually, due to hype and consumer turnout, I expect the PS3 to be number 1, defeating the DS. BUT will drop rather fast as Sony fails to meet the high demand while DS Lites will still be available.


you know, i could totally see the ps3 being compared to the wii, but the ps3 compared to the DS, there not the same @_@ ones a handheld... and ones a council system... but still, it would be funny to see theDS spank sony some more hehe. . life would be great... an old handheld spanking a new council system muah ha ha ha ha.... soon the world shall be nintendos.... ok... well.. maybe just japan....  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on November 11, 2006, 06:48:57 AM
I've heard the console vs. handheld debate a million times... and the fact is, little Timmy's mom only has $X to spend on video games for Timmy - and she doesn't care if it's for his gameboy or his nintendo, that's all she's going to spend on it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 11, 2006, 08:20:03 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
I've heard the console vs. handheld debate a million times... and the fact is, little Timmy's mom only has $X to spend on video games for Timmy - and she doesn't care if it's for his gameboy or his nintendo, that's all she's going to spend on it.


That's what little Timmy gets for being born to a lower class family! He'll just have to deal with it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 11, 2006, 10:52:49 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
I've heard the console vs. handheld debate a million times... and the fact is, little Timmy's mom only has $X to spend on video games for Timmy - and she doesn't care if it's for his gameboy or his nintendo, that's all she's going to spend on it.


That's what little Timmy gets for being born to a lower class family! He'll just have to deal with it.


Hahaha poor people!!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 11, 2006, 11:27:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: clintonmanual
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Gooooooooooo DS! This is going to be the most exciting week ever. Let's just pray the DS holds!


Actually, due to hype and consumer turnout, I expect the PS3 to be number 1, defeating the DS. BUT will drop rather fast as Sony fails to meet the high demand while DS Lites will still be available.


you know, i could totally see the ps3 being compared to the wii, but the ps3 compared to the DS, there not the same @_@ ones a handheld... and ones a council system... but still, it would be funny to see theDS spank sony some more hehe. . life would be great... an old handheld spanking a new council system muah ha ha ha ha.... soon the world shall be nintendos.... ok... well.. maybe just japan....


the hell is a council system? don't tell me the PS3 now offers psychiatric help. i didn't think the cell processor was that smart!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: odilon on November 11, 2006, 11:39:38 AM
Errr...nevermind.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2006, 08:18:51 PM
MJ: Maybe he thoùght the PS3 is a government?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2006, 08:45:23 AM
*rumored PS3 launch #'s*

Hardware:
PS3 20G - 32,000
PS3 60G - 51,000
(total 83,000)

Software:
RR7 - 27000 (38%)
Gundam - 20000 (26%)
Resistence - 16000 (40%)
Genji - 10000 (20%)
Sega Golf Club - 3000 (24%)

according to those #'s Bill was right, at least 17,000 consoles sold without a game.

p.s. I know this is the DS sales thread, but since this is where we keep track of all sales data, I thought I should post it in here so that we can compare it to the upcoming sales chart for this past week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 12, 2006, 08:48:04 AM
Those software numbers suck pretty badly. Not that it's unexpected but considering how much they must have cost to make that's pretty much a total failure. Their only hope with these games is that they aren't overshadowed by anything else before the PS3 sells enough to make them profitable which can take half a year.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 12, 2006, 09:38:03 AM
It's pretty horrific when you have a tie ratio of .92 on LAUNCH day. Wow. The Wii will kill that, considering almost everyone will buy at least Zelda.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 12, 2006, 09:46:40 AM
I'll laugh if next week the ps2 beats the ps3.  That would be ironic.

Seriously though the Wii will initially have a horrible tie-in-ratio, WiiSports to blame.  It will then get better.  Next week it should be better for the ps3.

Yeah the DS is going to cream the PS3 this week I'm sure.  The DS numbers just have to hold.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2006, 10:51:59 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
I'll laugh if next week the ps2 beats the ps3.  That would be ironic.

Seriously though the Wii will initially have a horrible tie-in-ratio, WiiSports to blame.  It will then get better.  Next week it should be better for the ps3.

Yeah the DS is going to cream the PS3 this week I'm sure.  The DS numbers just have to hold.
You don't think that all those dissapointed would be owners of a PS3 that have $600+ saved just for gaming might not change their mind and buy a Wii instead and then use that extra $350+ to buy a few games?

I'm predicting a 2.4 ratio for Wii upon release, and thats not including Wii sports.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 12, 2006, 11:34:37 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
Seriously though the Wii will initially have a horrible tie-in-ratio, WiiSports to blame.  It will then get better.  Next week it should be better for the ps3.
Did the Japanese PS3 launch with Blue-Ray copy of Ricky Bobby?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: joedick on November 13, 2006, 01:46:07 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
It's pretty horrific when you have a tie ratio of .92 on LAUNCH day. Wow. The Wii will kill that, considering almost everyone will buy at least Zelda.


That's not necessarily true, given the number of people who will buy the console just to resell it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 13, 2006, 01:49:38 PM
I'm impressed by Resistance's sales numbers, I thought FPSs sold horribly in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 13, 2006, 03:02:27 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1 I'm predicting a 2.4 ratio for Wii upon release, and thats not including Wii sports.


That sounds about right to me too.

I'm personally giving the Wii a 1:4 tie in, not counting sports. This'll be the highest number of games I'll buy with a console, ever, and I'm being conservative and only buying multiplayer games which I know I'll get value from with all the Wiimotes ($180 and all, I BETTER get my $$$ worth...).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 13, 2006, 11:45:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: VGrevolution
I'm impressed by Resistance's sales numbers, I thought FPSs sold horribly in Japan?


Well if the launch lineup was limited to those 5 games then each game will have a higher chance to get bought but even at this case the software sales bombed. And considering this was launch that is not encouraging but on the other side the true point of the PS3 is just so Sony can create a install base for Blu-ray but didn't Sony try that with  the PSP for UMD and it failed horribly hmm we will see how these few next months will turn out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 14, 2006, 04:24:01 AM
UMD failed because it had no equivalent home player among other things.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 14, 2006, 05:07:36 AM
While I agree Blu-ray and UMD are not the same thing, there is still a big question mark over Blu-ray.  It looks like this:

What does Blu-ray offer?

Higher resolution is the answer.  I tried explaining that to my aunt the other day and after my explanation, everyone in the room's eyes had glazed over, and my mom said, "Now you're sorry you asked, aren't you?"

What did DVD offer?  Not just picture quality, also:

- more compact size (an entire season of TV shows fits in a box the size of one VHS tape)
- menu systems that significantly reduce rewinding and fast forwarding
- special features

Blu-ray only offers better picture quality, and with HDTV at maybe 20% penetration in North America and probably lower in most other places, how high can the demand for Blu-ray OR HD-DVD be?  Not very, I say.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on November 14, 2006, 05:40:22 AM
Well, it's more than that.  I'm not saying it's a compelling reason to switch to BluRay / HD-DVD, but the entire user experience is vastly improved.  The menus can be popped up over the running movie, transitions are smooth and animated, no more pauses mid-movie while it switches layers, and vastly more special features.

If you haven't played around with it you should - whether or not it makes the formats worth getting, it is pretty cool.  It makes DVD seem old and clunky by comparison.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: oohhboy on November 14, 2006, 06:17:19 AM
If you have pauses from layer transitions it isn't the DVDs fault. You/they have a POS dvd player.

Why would anyone need the menu while the movie is playing? Currently to switch angle/subtitles/sound tracks require only a button press.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on November 14, 2006, 06:26:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
If you have pauses from layer transitions it isn't the DVDs fault. You/they have a POS dvd player.

Why would anyone need the menu while the movie is playing? Currently to switch angle/subtitles/sound tracks require only a button press.


Seriously, was about to make those same exact points. Although how many DVDs actually come with the angle feature is hardly any at all...

Suffice to say, though, DVD is more than fine for me until we actually see a worth while leap in tech for home videos, like DVD was for VHS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 14, 2006, 07:35:56 AM
My main problem with BluRay is HDDVD. The fact that the two sides refused to come together and make one format is offensive to the consumer. I refuse to buy either until one wins out.

The real reason it won't catch on, though, is cost. If the players were like $150 instead of $800 people would considering buying them. Likewise, the discs are expensive. The Lost Season 1 set that is supposedly coming out next summer is rumored to cost upwards of $200! Your base consumer won't pay that.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on November 14, 2006, 07:54:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
If you have pauses from layer transitions it isn't the DVDs fault. You/they have a POS dvd player.


No, it's the fault of the DVD standard not requiring a playback buffer.  

Quote

Why would anyone need the menu while the movie is playing? Currently to switch angle/subtitles/sound tracks require only a button press.


Well it's more than that.  It's that you can have software-generated content that overlays / interacts with the movie.  If you use your imagination a little you can see that this could be pretty useful.

Look, I'm not defending the formats.  Couchmonkey said that the only difference between DVD and BluRay / HD-DVD was picture quality - I'm just pointing out that there's much more to it than that.  They're full-fledged software platforms that can do complicated things that could never be achieved with DVD.  The best analogy I can think of is strict HTML vs Flash-enhanced web sites.  For most purposes HTML is fine, but Flash lets you do a lot of things that HTML could never accomplish.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 14, 2006, 08:43:31 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
If you have pauses from layer transitions it isn't the DVDs fault. You/they have a POS dvd player.

Is there any way to tell whether a DVD player does this?  Is there a buzzword or feature name to look for?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on November 14, 2006, 09:00:39 AM
Make sure it has a buffer.  The Denon 1920, for example, has a 2MB buffer (and the higher end Denons have an 8MB buffer).  Those Oppo 971 players that are all the rage these days have an 8MB buffer.

Oohhboy is flaming when he says that DVD players without it are "POS" - it's a relatively new feature.  There's lots of really nice DVD players out there that don't have this feature, though at this point I wouldn't get one without it.  Not worth replacing your DVD player just for that feature but if you're getting a new one it's definitely worth looking for.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 14, 2006, 10:00:36 AM
Thanks for the correction!  I still question if these features are enough, but at least there are other features that someone like my aunt might appreciate.  Another point that I forgot to concede earlier is that, yes, Blu-ray is better for holding loads of content, a plus for games.

I think Blu-ray may be a big draw for PS3 down the road, but it will depend on PS3 and Blu-ray maintaining a certain level of popularity until such a time as Blu-ray players become a big plus for consumers.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2006, 07:14:22 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
*rumored PS3 launch #'s*

Hardware:
PS3 20G - 32,000
PS3 60G - 51,000
(total 83,000)

Software:
RR7 - 27000 (38%)
Gundam - 20000 (26%)
Resistence - 16000 (40%)
Genji - 10000 (20%)
Sega Golf Club - 3000 (24%)

*Official PS3 Japanese 2day launch sales #'s*

Hardware: 81,639
60GB version: 45,774
20GB version: 35,865

Software: 66,684
Ridge Racer 7 - 21,654
Gundam Target in Sight - 21,309
Resistance - 13,545
Genji - 8,766
Sega Golf Club - 1,410

really pathetic #'s all around for PS3, they should have just saved all of those for the U.S. launch and almost be able to make the original 400k that they announced  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 14, 2006, 08:15:54 PM
And what's that have to do with DS?

It'll be interesting to see if Ridge Racer 7 even makes the top 10.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2006, 08:27:59 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
And what's that have to do with DS?

It'll be interesting to see if Ridge Racer 7 even makes the top 10.
I'll answer you even though I know you were being sarcastic.

I put it here for later reference as DS puts everything else(combined) to shame once again.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 15, 2006, 04:49:20 AM
Actually, PS3, PS2, and PSP combined might match DS sales.  I guess it depends on if Nintendo added enough new stock.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2006, 07:20:19 AM
Supposedly Nintendo had been stockpiling DSLites like has been previously mentioned and released them all just b4 the PS3 launch. So I expect DSL to outsell everything(combined) on the sales chart this week, again.

I'm sure everyone waiting in line for a PS3 either already owned a DSL or bought one just to wait in line with, and if they didn't, don't be surprised if they bought one afterwards when they found out that there were no more PS3's available and they would have to come back and wait in line again some other day .
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 15, 2006, 08:03:18 AM
Quote

Supposedly Nintendo had been stockpiling DSLites like has been previously mentioned and released them all just b4 the PS3 launch. So I expect DSL to outsell everything(combined) on the sales chart this week, again.
If they did that, isn't there a good chance Wii sales would be lowered because they consumer just bought a gaming system the week before?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2006, 08:11:16 AM
Wii doesn't come out till Dec. 2nd in Japan, and with the money they saved buying a DS instead of a PS3 would mean that they actually have money left over for a Wii. Not to mention that Japan is Nintendo happy right now...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2006, 07:17:17 PM
Media Create - Nov. 6th - 12th

Software:
1. (DS) General Knowledge Training - Nintendo - 102,240 - 451,106
2. (DS) Pokemon Diamond - Pokemon - 78,744 - 1,682,896
3. (DS) Kirby: Squeak Squad - Nintendo - 77,949 - 244,081
4. (DS) Pokemon Pearl - Pokemon - 65,574 - 1,423,990
5. (DS) Kanji Brain - IE Institute - 33,932 - NEW
6. (DS) New Super Mario Brothers - Nintendo - 27,361 - 3,393,921
7. (DS) More Brain Age - Nintendo - 24,166 - 3,412,008
8. (DS) Winning Eleven DS - Konami - 23,653 - 112,928
9. (PS3) Ridge Racer 7 - Bandai Namco - 21,655 - NEW
10. (PS3) Gundam: sales Target not in Sight - Bandai Namco - 21,310 - NEW lol
~
11. (PS2) Yakuza (best) - Sega
12. (DS) Animal Crossing: Wild World - Nintendo
13. (PS3) Resistance - SCE - 13,545 - NEW
14. (DS) Brain Age - Nintendo
15. (DS) Kanji Kentei DS - Rocket Company
16. (GBA) Final Fantasy V Advance - Square Enix
17. (DS) English Training - Nintendo
18. (DS) Final Fantasy III - Square Enix
19. (PS2) Mai Otome - Sunrise
20. (DS) Mario Kart DS - Nintendo
21. (PS3) Genji - SCE - 8766 - NEW
22. (PS2) Minna no Tennis - SCE
23. (DS) Talking DS Cooking Navi - Nintendo
24. (DS) Tales of the Tempest - Bandai Namco
25. (PSP) Ace Combat X - Skies of Deception - Bandai Namco
26. (DS) Gekitou! Custom Robo - Nintendo
27. (PS2) Dragonball Z Sparking! Neo - Bandai Namco
28. (DS) Phoenix Wright 2 (best) - Capcom
29. (DS) Fast Reading Training - Milestone
30. (DS) Tetris DS - Nintendo

Newest member of the DS 3million + Club: Pokemon Diamond+Pokemon Pearl=3,106,886

Hardware:
To follow


DS is all over the entire freakin chart, and everything PS3 was beaten by a Kanji writing game.
Hardware is going to be embarassing for all sony products...  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 15, 2006, 09:14:49 PM
20 of the top 30 are DS games. DS sales don't seem to be phased at all by the PS3 launch. No surprise the PS3 games sold so poorly. Gonna be nice to see the DS outsell the PS3 too
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on November 15, 2006, 10:00:42 PM
Speaking of Gundam sales, does anyone recall what Bandai's "Target Sales" were for the game?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 16, 2006, 12:31:28 AM
500,000.

Same with Ridge Racer, lol.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 16, 2006, 03:33:09 AM
I think they've got patience, they know that at the current shipment numbers it's going to take a few months before the PS3 has even shipped enough to allow sales numbers like that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 16, 2006, 05:06:59 AM
I'd say that depends on when they set the target.  If it was set back at E3...well, nobody expected shortages like this at that time.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: White Mage on November 16, 2006, 06:59:35 AM
Does anyone know what Sony's "refresh" rate on new shipments to Japan is even going to be?  And how often do these shipments make it to the various stores for restocking?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 16, 2006, 07:10:54 AM
You know, it's possible that until after the European launch in March the PS3 will never have enough systems to outsell the DS, let alone the potential Wii sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 16, 2006, 07:16:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: White Mage
Does anyone know what Sony's "refresh" rate on new shipments to Japan is even going to be?  And how often do these shipments make it to the various stores for restocking?
Its supposed to be 100k a week, but Sony is only gonna be able to provide around 30k for atleast next week. This news popped up just before the news of Sony almost halving the U.S. shipments from 400k down to somewhere closer to 250k for launch. Basically, Sony is getting hit hard lately, and I doubt the bad news stops anytime soon.

 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 16, 2006, 03:02:28 PM
1. DSL - 148,174
2. PS3 - 81,639 (81,639)
3. PSP - 19,123 (1,492,596)
4. PS2 - 16,157
5. 360 - 3,864
6. GBASP - 1,320
7. GBM - 1,213
8. NGC - 496
9. NDS - 279
10. GBA - 12
11. XBX - 3

Best. Launch. Ever.

SONY FTW!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: segagamer12 on November 16, 2006, 03:35:17 PM
but thers all those los- I mean people waiting out side in line already for PS3 launch and Sopny promised to ship PS3s overseas to meet the high demand, CNN said so and they are always right. :SARCASM: for those who can't tell
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 16, 2006, 05:10:42 PM
Another victory for the DSL.  Now I'll laugh if it beats the Wii next week making it a juggernaut.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on November 16, 2006, 05:24:14 PM
All the Sony Platforms combined are still 31,255 less than the DS Lite alone. Nintendo is obviously doomed.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 16, 2006, 06:02:55 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I put it here for later reference as DS puts everything else(combined) to shame once again.

Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Actually, PS3, PS2, and PSP combined might match DS sales.  I guess it depends on if Nintendo added enough new stock.

Quote

Originally posted by: ShyGuy
All the Sony Platforms combined are still 31,255 less than the DS Lite alone. Nintendo is obviously doomed.


It was too easy to call, sad to say though, next week could be worse(PS3 restock?).
What would be funny is if DS in Japan outsells PS3 @ the U.S. launch.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 17, 2006, 03:21:41 AM
PS2 took a pretty big dive after the PS3 launch.  I'm surprised, considering how few people actually got one.

I personally doubt PS3 will ever sell more than 100,000 in one week in Japan this year.  Where is Sony going to get those magical extra PS3s when they could only provide 80,000 on the first day - after months of ramp-up time?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 17, 2006, 03:38:10 AM
Isn't the DS selling around 400,000 or so per month lately in the US? That's comparable to the launch total of the PS3... and with the release of killer games like Pokemon, FF III, and others, well, you never know. DS might surpass PS3 in the USA as well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 17, 2006, 07:42:52 AM
Wii and DS  will probably both outsell PS3 for Novebmer just because Sony has such poor shipment numbers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 18, 2006, 01:22:36 PM
A lot of sites think Sony actually only had around 250,000 or so for the US launch, so there's a very good chance DS will outsell PS3 for the month.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 22, 2006, 08:35:21 AM
Sony better pray the PS3 sells well, because the PSP is sinking like a rock, and the software is already submerged.

NPD October
Portable Hardware
Total DS: 360,414
PSP: 130,466

Portable Software
DS software: 1,364,809
GBA software: 1,283,132
PSP software: 653,340  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 22, 2006, 10:55:07 AM
Do they mention SP hardware sales too? It would be mockably funny if the PSP was still getting its ass handed to it 2:1 by 5 year old tech.

edit: Ha. Yes, even funnier if the SP outsold the PS3 even....
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 23, 2006, 01:44:43 AM
FFIII disappointed me by not making the top ten this time around.

I still don't know what FTW means.

I want the damn Wii numbers already.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on November 23, 2006, 02:06:47 AM
It's a shame that NPD doesn't count Wal*Mart.  I'd love to see GameBoy Micro sales for November...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 23, 2006, 04:17:25 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaryJane

I still don't know what FTW means.
AFAIK, "For the Win".

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 23, 2006, 04:55:44 AM
The whole WalMart thing is continually baffling. Surely they go through at least half as many systems and games as the others combined. The NPD needs to figure out how to get data from them. Japan is so much better at this thing...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 23, 2006, 06:24:11 AM
Last I knew they include wal*mart, but because wal*mart won't give them numbers they just estimate. I've seen lots of people want to assume wild or random estimates, but when I subtract Japanese and European numbers from World sales totals, NPD's numbers are spot on.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 23, 2006, 07:42:13 AM
Ahh, so they do estimate? Good. I didn't realize they did estimations.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 23, 2006, 09:39:15 AM
I thought they didn't include Toys R Us either? But yeah, they probably extrapolate with the data they have..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 23, 2006, 10:42:46 AM
Now I don't know wha AFAIK means...

You know what I find strange? When the GameCube was Nintendo's main console and selling poorly people said Nintendo should get out of the console market, and focus on game development and portable systems. Now of course that was mindless babble but there were a lot of people spewing this idiocy, even non-video game people like Yahoo editors.

Where are the people telling Sony to stop trying with the PSP? Sure hardware sales aren't bad, neither were the GC's in it's hayday, the problem is lack of quality and sales of software, and the fact that the DS is trouncing it at every turn. But nope, all the hate in the video game world is saved for Nintendo's mistakes, damn the world.

DS FTW!!!

You know I'm going to constantly use that now that I know what it means, I originally thought is some play on the ever-popular WTF!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on November 23, 2006, 10:59:19 AM
"Where are the people telling Sony to stop trying with the PSP?"

Here on this forum.  Sony has one flop and the PS3 is off to a lousy start.  Might be a good idea to cut off one to free up resources to save the other.

AFAIK = As far as a I know.  Or at least that's what it means AKAIK.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 23, 2006, 11:31:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaryJane

Now I don't know wha AFAIK means...
IANAL, but, FWIW, you could google a few of these
Quote

DS FTW!!!
QFT!

Edit: Added a new acronym, since Ian defined one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 23, 2006, 12:19:50 PM
FTW = **** the World. At least that's what I've always assumed since Taz was the ECW "FTW" Champion many, many years ago.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2006, 03:25:09 PM
Media Create Nov. 13th - 19th

Software
1. (PS2, Koei) Sengoku Musou 2 Empires - 97,170
2. (DS, Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training - 78,722 / 529,828
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 68,147 / 1,751,043
4. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 57,627 / 1,481,617
5. (DS, Nintendo) Hoshi no Kirby Dorocche Dan - 52,177 / 296,258
6. (DS, Nintendo) Magic Taizen - 28,215
7. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 22,986 / 3,416,907
8. (PS2, Sega) Yakuza PS2 The Best - 21,154 / 86,292
9. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 19,349 / 3,431,357
10. (PS2, Bandai) NARUTO Kinoha Spirits - 19,277
~
11. Negima!? 3-Jikanme - Konami PS2  NEW  
12. 200 Bannin no Kan Ken: Tokoton Kanji Nou - IE Institute NDS  
13. Animal Crossing: Wild World - Nintendo NDS  
14. Castlevania Portrait of Ruin - Capcom NDS 16.000 NEW
15. Final Fantasy V Advance - Square Enix GBA  
16. Ridge Racer 7 - Bandai Namco PS3 10.000 / 32.000  
17. Winning Eleven DS - Konami NDS 10.000 / 123.000  
18. Dr. Kawashima: Brain Training - Nintendo NDS  
19. Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight - Bandai Namco PS3 9.500 / 31.000  
20. English Training DS - Nintendo NDS  
21. Mario Kart DS - Nintendo NDS 8.800 1.742.000  
22. Resistance: Fall of Man - Sony PS3 8.500 / 22.000  
23. Final Fantasy III - Square Enix NDS 8.200 860.000  
24. Zaidanhoujin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Koun.. - Rocket Company NDS  
25. Shaberu! Oryouri Nabi - Nintendo NDS  
26. Minna no Tennis - Sony PS2  
27. Tales of the Tempest - Namco NDS  
28. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice For All - Capcom NDS  
29. Tetris DS - Nintendo NDS  
30. Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception - Bandai Namco PSP  
31. Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - Bandai Namco PS2  
32. Custom Robo Arena - Nintendo NDS  
33. Genji: Kamui Souran - Sony PS3
34. Monster Hunter Portable (Greatest Hits) - Capcom PSP  
35. Pokemon Emerald - Nintendo GBA 4.000 1.742.000  
36. Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini - Bandai Namco NDS  
37. Rhythm Tengoku - Nintendo GBA  
38. Mario Basket 3 on 3 - Nintendo / SquareEnix NDS  
39. Sanyo Pachinko Paradise 13 - Irem PS2  
40. Me de Unou wo Kitaeru: DS Sokudoku Jutsu - Milestone NDS 3.000 10.000  
41. Big Brain Academy - Nintendo NDS  
42. Mogitate Tingle no Barairo Rupee Land - Nintendo NDS 3.100 180.000  
43. Pokemon Feuerrot - Nintendo GBA 2.800 1.503.000  
44. Mezase! Shoujo Manga Ka! Chao Manga School - TDK Core NDS  
45. Gundam Battle Royale - Bandai Namco PSP  
46. Minna no Golf 4 (PS2 the Best) - Sony PS2  
47. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Best Price) - Capcom NDS  
48. Puzzle Series vol.6: Illust Logic - Hudson NDS NEW  
49. Mah Jong Fight Club - Konami PS3 NEW  
50. Daredemo Asobi Taizen - Nintendo NDS


Pokemon DS combined - 3,232,660

Hardware
DSL 128,621
PS3 42,099
PSP 16,690
PS2 15,068
Xbox360 4,050
GBASP 1,199
GBM 1,037
GC 514
DS 182
GBA 30
Xbox 6

p.s. PS3 software bolded so that it can be found on the list
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 23, 2006, 04:31:55 PM
I figured the PS2 would hang on better... 3 weeks ago it was 20k, 2 weeks ago 16k, and now this past week its struggling just to make 15k... Sure hope it gets a holiday kick in the pants other wise the _Xbox360_ is going to start out selling it.

On the Nintendo side of things... at least it's not nearly as dismal as the GC sales are. I'd expect those to flatline about the time Wii is released. Speaking of things dropped like a bad habbit, wow, look at those Phat style DS sales... its hanging out with the Xbox and GBA big time. Thank be to heaven for the DSlite, just clobbering everyone and the PSP by 7.7:1...

Last year was just insane with the store shelves just stripped bare and Nintendo apologizing, I sure hope nintendo is braced for impact...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 23, 2006, 04:39:27 PM
Roughly speaking last week for every other system sold 1 and 47746/80875 DS Lite were sold in Japan...  Thats simply great.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 24, 2006, 01:59:40 AM

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Released this week....

First Day Sales
NDS Love and Berry DS Collection - 270.000 (34%)
NDS Jump Ultimate Stars - 150.000 (43%)
PS2 Winning Eleven 10 J.League + Europe League 06-07 - 53.000 (65%)
PSP Jeanne d'Arc - 35.000 (58%)
360 Dead Or Alive Xtreme 2 - 33.000 (58%)
360 Culdcept Saga - 18.000 (59%)
NDS Bokura no Taiyou Django & Sabata - 15.000 (25%)

--------------------------------------

#'s according to Famitsu

Famitsu Nov 6-12

1. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 124738 / 3060032
2. NDS General Knowledge Training 91289 / 444812
3. NDS Hoshi no Kirby DS 68660 / 219807
4. NDS Kanji Brain 30570 / NEW
5. PS3 Ridge Racer 7 30318 / NEW
6. PS3 Gundam: Target in Sight 30051 / NEW
7. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 26939 / 3351234
8. NDS Brain Training 2 24929 / 3417956
9. PS2 Yakuza (BEST) 22812 / 78111
10. NDS Winning Eleven DS 17298 / 68789
~
11. PS3 Resistance: Fall of Man 15741 / NEW
12. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 13630 / 3335195
13. NDS Tales of the Tempest 13209 / 117971
14. GBA Final Fantasy V Advance 11424 / 209896
15. NDS Brain Training 10716 / 2837394
16. NDS Final Fantasy III 10146 / 860490
17. NDS Kanji Quiz DS 9670 / 222443
18. PS3 Genji: Kamui Souran 9543 / NEW
19. NDS English Training 9536 / 1408243
20. PS2 Minna no Tennis 8890 / 473765
21. PSP Ace Combat X 8673 / 81458
22. NDS Phoenix Wright 2 8416 / 44608
23. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo 8338 / 396182
24. PS2 Mai Otome 8005 / NEW
25. NDS Cooking Navi! 7814 / 586211
26. NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo 7615 / 83365
27. NDS Mario Kart DS 7290 / 1626242
28. PS2 Sanyo Pachinko Paradise 13 6364 / 45816
29. NDS Tamagotchi 2 5957 / 568820
30. NDS Tetris DS 5746 / 889178
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 24, 2006, 02:19:33 AM
That chart is sweet.  I like the part where sales spike so high that the milestones have to be printed off to the side.

Anybody know when that 360 RPG (Blue Dragon?) is supposed to be released?  Did it already come out?

I'm really interested to see how Wii does in Japan.  All signs point to awesome, but I want to see the actual numbers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: oohhboy on November 24, 2006, 11:20:26 AM
"Pokemon: Let me show you them"

Hahahaha. That made my day.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 25, 2006, 08:21:52 AM
I vonder vhy dere are styll no Wii nuumbres?

EDIT: Personally I don't believe Sony is going to quit on the PSP anytime soon, but it makes you wonder, what will it take for them to give up? To give up would mean to admit defeat, not to mention to a company they have long made fun of, and dismissed on countless occasions, all the while stealing their ideas.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 25, 2006, 08:32:51 AM
"I vonder vhy dere are styll no Wii nuumbres?"

Maybe cauz de Wii has not yet released, deez are de Japanese nuumbres.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 25, 2006, 09:36:46 AM
Perhaps MaryJane was asking about US numbers. It has been released here. I'd think someone would have release day numbers or something....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on November 25, 2006, 09:40:56 AM
December 2nd is the Japanese Launch date.

I wonder how the DS and Wii sales go together, and will the charts be filled with nothing but Nintendo.  As fanboyish wishing as that may sound it seems very likely it will happen.  I'd expect nothing less than 3 Wii games selling more than 50,000 copies.

Edit: numbers may have been a bit too wishful.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: DRJPDX on November 25, 2006, 07:17:17 PM
I don't think those numbers are too insane.  I know they plan on shipping 400,000 units.  Zelda, Wario Ware, and another could all do 50,000-100,000.  I don't think the Japanese got a pack in game did they?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 25, 2006, 10:44:32 PM
Yeah, the JP Wii does not come packed with Wii sports or any game.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see weeks with nothing but Nintendo in the top 10 (like that one chart of complete DS pwnage). I know it's a bit early to tell, but so far the PS3 has a horrible software tie-in-ratio just like the PSP, I don't think any PS3 games will be selling anywhere near the big DS titles (at least for the rest of 06 and most of 07)... DS=Wii, PSP=PS3 the they are very similar in more ways than one!  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on November 26, 2006, 01:18:54 AM
I thought the japanese Wii was coming packaged with WiiPlay?

I did mean american numbers.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 26, 2006, 05:12:42 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaryJane
I thought the japanese Wii was coming packaged with WiiPlay?

I did mean american numbers.
NPD #'s probably won't be out until 2nd or 3rd week of Dec.

The HYPE will be brought
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 26, 2006, 12:31:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaryJane
I thought the japanese Wii was coming packaged with WiiPlay?


Wii Play comes with a wii remote, but I don't think the game itself is packed with the system.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 26, 2006, 01:24:54 PM
The US version of Wiiplay will also come with a Wiimote.

Pretty good if you ask me!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 26, 2006, 05:43:14 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

The HYPE will be brought
Ha.. that's awesome. HYPE HYPE HYPE.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 26, 2006, 05:48:18 PM
It's funny how they had Zelda and Gears of War, but for the PS3 they had to put in FFXIII which isn't coming out for a while..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 27, 2006, 02:24:15 AM
Actually, they didn't use *any* PS3 game. Look at the video again, pause it even, its FF XII  (12), a PS2 game.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2006, 05:58:07 AM
Thats because there are no PS3 games that have been released that have been hyped up or really anticipated, and the only thing they could think of was a PS2 game. And no PS game is ever hyped more than FF.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 27, 2006, 06:11:46 AM
Wait, I thought Resistance got some hype?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 27, 2006, 07:17:38 AM
Yeah, everyone seems to forget Resistance.  It even came in second in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 27, 2006, 10:35:29 AM
Right, but Resistance just doesn't have the same weight as FF. Of similarity to hyping the GameCube with Luigi's Mansion.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 27, 2006, 10:46:17 AM
But by that logic Gears of War doesn't deserve to be on the video either. Edit: video not list.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 27, 2006, 11:34:16 AM
Really? Well, i'll just have to defer to you on that then. I personally wouldn't put Resistance at the same level as FF.

Edit:

To clarify a bit, I guess.... The idea is that there is going to be a "battle" going on between Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft during November, the results of which will, of course, be brought to us by NPD. If you're going to go to battle with your rivals, I don't think Sony would do well to bring along "Resistance" when they could bring along say, Final Fantasy.

Gears and Zelda are all that and a bag of chips. Resistance? I dunno, I guess I'll just have to defer to you. But I do think it is telling that the person who made the video chose (for the PS3) to ignore Resistance in favor a PS2 game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 28, 2006, 02:28:45 AM
Oh well, I'm not saying Resistance is as good as Gears, but it averaged 89% on GameRankings, so I think it's safe to say that it's pretty good by launch game standards.  I've seen 360 fans rip into it for not having the features they expect from an Xbox Live game, but...ummm....I'm rambling.  My point is, I have no idea if it's any good, but the reviewers seem to think so, and they sure weren't afraid to rip into Genji or others in the lineup.

So how about those DS sales?  I heard it reached 7 million in Europe lately. Also interesting, Wikipedia's PSP entry has had the "sales and competition" section removed over the past month.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on November 28, 2006, 04:03:23 AM
The Wii should easily win November. It already has over 600,000 and will likely sell around 700,000 by Friday (maybe 650?). The 360 would have to have sold 2-3 times its usual to beat that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 28, 2006, 04:32:55 AM
'Tis almost Christmas though!  I bet 360 will finally outsell PS2.  Will PSP manage to outsell GBA for a change?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2006, 05:24:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
The Wii should easily win November. It already has over 600,000 and will likely sell around 700,000 by Friday (maybe 650?). The 360 would have to have sold 2-3 times its usual to beat that.
Nov. NPD cut-off was Saturday, sales from this week starting Sunday aren't counted for Nov. because they only count fill weeks (Sun - Sat). All sales from Sunday on will count as Dec NPD(which should be even more exciting than Nov.).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 29, 2006, 04:19:58 AM
Famitsu 11/20 - 11/26

1 NDS Love & Berry (Sega) NEW
2 NDS Jump Ultimate Stars (Nintendo) NEW
3 NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (Pokemon)
4 PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 10 + Europe League 06-07 (Konami) NEW
5 NDS Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
6 NDS Hoshi no Kirby (Nintendo)
7 X360 Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 (Tecmo) NEW
8 PSP Jeanne D'Arc (Sony) NEW
9 PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 Empires (Koei)
10 NDS New SMB (Nintendo)

NSMB is about to fall out of the Top 10 for the first time in how many weeks?
Xbox360 software is not only selling better than PS3 software but PSP software too!?
also expect Love & Berry to be >400k as I heard pre-order #'s were really high.

With Wii releasing on the last day of the next chart 11/27 - 12/02 I expext the Wii to have about 4 of the Top 5 and 7 of the Top 10, I expect Pokemon/P, Love & Berry & Jump US to fill in the rest.
COMPLETE NINTENDOMINATION  

p.s. I also updated last weeks Media-Create Nov 13th - 19th with th rest of the Top 50 including PS3 software
check it out.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on November 29, 2006, 10:28:00 AM
I was thinking about getting the pink Love & Berry DSlite, I didn't know it was so popular. Nice to see a 3rd party DS game at the top of the charts Can't wait for those Wii numbers.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 29, 2006, 05:47:10 PM
Media Create Nov. 20th - 26th

Software:
1-(NDS/SEGA) Love and Berry DS 421,227
2 (NDS/Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars 150,303
3-(PS2/Konami) J-League Winning Eleven 10 + Europe League 06-07 103,365
4-(NDS/Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training 81,813/611,642
5-(NDS/Nintendo) Pokemon Diamond 76,183/ 1,827,226
6-(NDS/Nintendo) Pokemon Pearl 58,158/ 1,539,775
7-(NDS/Nintendo) Hoshi no Kirby 55,824/ 352,082
8-(Xbox360/Tecmo) Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 45,536
9-(PSP/Sony) Jeanne D'Arc PSP 45,387
10-(NDS/Nintendo) NSMB 35,086 / 3,451,994
~
11. More Brain Age (DS)
12. Sengoku Musou 2 Empires (PS2)
13. Animal Crossing Wild World (DS)
14. 200 Mannin Kanji Quiz (DS)
15. Culdcept Saga (360)
16. Magic Taizen (DS)
17. Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
18. Tensei Manabu Engekkouroku (PS2)
19. Brain Age (DS)
20. Gotouchi Kenkei DS (DS)
21. Bokutai Djang and Sabata (DS)
22. English Training DS (DS)
23. Mario Kart DS (DS)
24. NBA Live 2007 (PS2)
25. Final Fantasy III (DS)
26. Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Noryoku (DS)
27. Final Fantasy V Advance (GBA)
28. DS Cusine Navigator (DS)
29. Ridge Racer 7 (PS3)
30. Gundam: Target in Sight (PS3)

Pokemon Diamond/Pearl = 3,367,001

Hardware:
DSL 201,378
PS3 32,662
PSP 30,815
PS2 26,263
Xbox360 7,007
GBASP 1,264
GBM 1,235
GC 576
DS 212
GBA 27
Xbox 0

PS3 155k vs X360 170k

things to note:
-Next week Diamond & Pearl will = Japans #1 selling DS game
-Xbox360 Not only has 2 games in the top 30(both above all PS3 software), but one of them is in the Top 10!! O_O
-Xbox 360 has seen yet another increase in Hardware sales, what will happen when Blue Dragon is releases?
-PS3 barely made it into the Top 30 this week, #29 & #30
-3rd party Sega game to be one of the next 1million sellers on DS starting off with >400k sales in its first week
-Xbox360 still holds the #1 spot for Next-gen console in Japan, well... until the "New Generation" starts!
-Next week is to be PS3's last week on the charts for a long time to come(Wii Launch Japan!!!)
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 30, 2006, 01:22:08 AM
I want Boktai 3!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on November 30, 2006, 03:10:03 AM
It is always a DoA game or RPG game that will get the 360 into the top 30.  I think the 360 will sell about 5000 units.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2006, 04:17:17 AM
Media Create updated w/ hardware #'s above

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2006 Sales | LTD Sales

1.) DSL - 201,378  |  128,621  |  5,955,282  |  5,955,282
2.) PS3 - 32,662  |  42,099  |  156,400  |  156,400
3.) PSP - 30,815  |  16,690  |  1,540,101  |  4,223,057
4.) PS2 - 26,263  |  15,068  |  1,274,552  |  19,979,716
5.) X360 - 7,007  |  4,050  |  106,450  |  174,016
6.) GBASP - 1,264  |  1,199  |  213,668  |  5,906,104
7.) GBm - 1,235  |  1,037  |  135,467  |  551,156
8.) GCN - 576  |  514  |  71,239  |  4,164,829
9.) NDS - 212  |  182  |  957,207  |  6,581,408
10.) GBA - 27  |  30  |  3,370  |  8,822,920
11.) Xbox - 0  |  6  |  1,705  |  475,578

DS + DSL Combined LTD = 12,536,690
GBA + GBASP + GBM Combined LTD = 15,280,180

The DS is closing in on the GBA and is set to catchup/surpass the PS2 by the end of 2007 if this sales trend keeps up.  

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 30, 2006, 04:49:31 AM
Wow, thanks for all those details!  I was surprised to see DS Lite surpassed GBA SP this week!  XBox 360's meteoric rise to the top continues!  PSP rebounds from last week's all-time low sales (but fails to sell any top 30 software).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2006, 05:03:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Counchmonkey
PSP rebounds from last week's all-time low sales (but fails to sell any top 30 software).

I think you overlooked something

9-(PSP/Sony) Jeanne D'Arc PSP 45,387 <--NEW release
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 30, 2006, 06:35:48 AM
Oops!  You're right.  Don't sic Pac-man on me.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 30, 2006, 06:46:17 AM
PS3 barely managed to sell more than PSP, what's wrong with that picture!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on November 30, 2006, 02:20:46 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

The DS is closing in on the GBA and is set to catchup/surpass the PS2 by the end of 2007 if this sales trend keeps up.  

[pac-man image]
Heh... if this xmas is anything like last xmas and Nintendo can continue to supply the DS's without running out of them like last year, Pac-man's mouth is just going to keep closing...

Hang on a second... the Wii will be coming out next week... So does that mean Pac-man will be eating wii?

I don't think this will be the first time Pac-man has eaten wii, though... (if only I could remember that web comic strip)  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Grant10k on November 30, 2006, 05:08:11 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas

Hang on a second... the Wii will be coming out next week... So does that mean Pac-man will be eating wii?

I don't think this will be the first time Pac-man has eaten wii, though... (if only I could remember that web comic strip)


http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=136?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2006, 06:12:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Grant10k
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas

Hang on a second... the Wii will be coming out next week... So does that mean Pac-man will be eating wii?

I don't think this will be the first time Pac-man has eaten wii, though... (if only I could remember that web comic strip)


http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=136?
hahahaha
I remember that one. I'm guessing that soon the chart will be divided up by systems and then a seperate one for companies. Nintendo will be eating Sony and MS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2006, 07:14:18 PM
More #'s to chew on, and these come from Nintendo themselves.

U.S. *
DS Hardware: 6.63 million units
DS Software: 21.42 million units

Worldwide +
DS Hardware: 26.82 million units
DS Software: 103.60 million units

U.S. *
GCN Hardware: 11.36 million units
GCN Software: 99.64 million units

Worldwide +
GCN Hardware: 21.2 million units
GCN Software: 198.05 million units

U.S. *
GBA/GBA SP Hardware: 33.63 million units
GBA Software: 155.59 million units

Worldwide +
GBA/GBA SP Hardware: 76.79 million units
GBA Software: 347.53 million units

Total Worldwide +
Total Hardware: more than 387 million units
Total Software: nearly 2.2 billion units

Nintendo [as of Sept 2006]:
Total Mario series: more than 193 million units sold worldwide
Total Zelda series: more than 47 million units worldwide
Total Metroid series: more than 13 million units worldwide
Total Pok?mon series: more than 155 million units worldwide
Total Donkey Kong series: more than 48 million units worldwide

source:
*=NPD Group
+=Nintendo NCL
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 01, 2006, 01:29:52 AM
Wait... The game attach rate is equal to total game sales / total hardware sales, right? If that's right, then the GameCube has an attach rate of 8.7 games per system sold in the US and 9.3 worldwide. That's pretty really pretty damn good for a "phailed" game system with no 3rd party support.

I mean, I know I have, geez, like 25 games for the system, but I figure that's because i'm a pretty hard core Nintendo fan. Do we know what the game attach rate to PS2 and Xbox1 are?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 01, 2006, 01:47:43 AM
I'm sure the PS2 attach rate is high, at least in the US, due to there being 5 GTA games.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 01, 2006, 02:19:24 AM
i don't believe the 2 cloned and ported psp GTA titles sold nearly as well as the original 3. And theres the fact that 1 of those clones hasn't been sold on the ps2 yet. so that would be 4 not 5.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 01, 2006, 03:40:01 AM
I'm betting attach rates on Xbox are high, maybe not quite as high on PS2 simply because it has a large casual fanbase that might own fewer games, but...who knows?

GameCube really isn't a failure, at least business-wise.  It's a disappointment because it lost customers compared to N64 and even failed to beat Xbox, but I bet it still made a decent profit for Nintendo.  Xbox is more of a failure in that respect: sure it came in second, but it lost billions of dollars.

Edit: Game-wise, I think GameCube's final year has been a failure, and 2005 was surprisingly weak too (though not nearly as bad as some make it out to be).  The first-party software was also worse than N64 in some cases but I think the system's lineup was better than N64 overall simply because of better third party support.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 01, 2006, 06:21:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1Nintendo [as of Sept 2006]:
Total Mario series: more than 193 million units sold worldwide
Total Zelda series: more than 47 million units worldwide
Total Metroid series: more than 13 million units worldwide
Total Pok?mon series: more than 155 million units worldwide
Total Donkey Kong series: more than 48 million units worldwide


Does this include the Mario sports games and Mario Party games in those 193 million?  If not, then that is impressive (of course, a good chunk of those were the original SMB packed in with the NES)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2006, 08:48:12 AM
more number to add to the pile.

Quote

GBASP at 39 weeks: 1.85M
DSL at 39 weeks: 5.96M
Time for GBASP to reach 5.96M: Hard to say. It hasn't happened yet.

Yes. By Media Create's numbers, DSL's 39 weeks have passed lifetime sales for the GBASP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 02, 2006, 09:16:01 AM
I guess the Wii is eating the DS this week?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Luigi Dude on December 02, 2006, 01:46:52 PM
Probobly, since there's supposed to be 400,000 Wii's at launch.  Of course I can't wait to see the top 10, since it's going to be all Nintendo.  Actually every top 10 for the next several months are going to be all Nintendo since PS3 shipments are still going to be very low and the PSP is no where to be seen.  

Well I expect a PS2 game to appear everyonce in a while, and then drop off a week later.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: bbruzzes on December 03, 2006, 12:34:05 PM
>> Worldwide +
>> DS Hardware: 26.82 million units
>> DS Software: 103.60 million units

All I can say is WOW! These would be great numbers for the life of a system, never mind just 2 years.
I'm thinking it'll reach 100+ million units and 400+ million software sales when it's finally discontinued.
Not bad for what was once called a "gimmicky" system.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2006, 01:23:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: bbruzzes
>> Worldwide +
>> DS Hardware: 26.82 million units
>> DS Software: 103.60 million units

All I can say is WOW! These would be great numbers for the life of a system, never mind just 2 years.
I'm thinking it'll reach 100+ million units and 400+ million software sales when it's finally discontinued.
Not bad for what was once called a "gimmicky" system.

So you're thinking that it will reach 4x as many units sold but only 4x as much software sold? I think thats an underestimation. At 4x the hardware sold I would expect around 10x the software sold, if current buying trends stay the same.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on December 03, 2006, 02:06:56 PM
I have to say that the Gamecube numbers are wow.  Especially considering a large part of those sales are first party.  More so then there other systems.  Which means in the end Nintendo was still making a ton of money off the third place cube.  Even with a much smaller share then the handhelds.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: bbruzzes on December 03, 2006, 02:19:25 PM
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: bbruzzes on December 03, 2006, 02:19:29 PM
Quote

So you're thinking that it will reach 4x as many units sold but only 4x as much software sold? I think thats an underestimation. At 4x the hardware sold I would expect around 10x the software sold, if current buying trends stay the same.


Yes, I probably was low on the estimate software sales, and just shows how impressive the DS has been in terms of sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2006, 04:47:48 AM
I'm not sure of where to keep track of this stuff anymore...

Famitsu 11/27 - 12/03

1. Tales of Destiny (PS2) - 250k/NEW
2. Wii Sports (Wii) - 170k/NEW
3. Wii Play (Wii) - 170k/NEW
4. The Legend of Zelda - Twilight Princess (Wii) - 140k/NEW
5. Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA) - 140k/NEW
6. Summon Night 4 (PS2)
7. Pokeman Pearl/Diamond (NDS)
8. Jump Ultimate Stars (NDS)
9. Love and Berry DS (NDS) - 70k/500k
10. Made in Wario: Smooth Move (Wii)

Hardware:
Wii - 370k
NDSL - 180k
PS3 + PS2 + PSP = 78k

Supposedly, thanks to the release of the Wii, the DS drought has taken a break, atleast for that week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 06, 2006, 05:49:02 AM
Sony's 3 systems together couldn't beat the DS, that is very v. sad.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 06, 2006, 06:41:06 AM
LOLipop.  I'm disappointed that Nintendo didn't take the entire top 10 but I guess that's to be expected with the popular PS2 getting some big games in time for the holidays.

Edit: Just noticed, unless 360 and PS3 combined sold about 40,000 units this week, Wii pwns both of them put together.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 06, 2006, 08:12:35 AM
It's in the bag people, Nintendo won.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2006, 11:35:51 PM
Media Create Nov 27th - Dec. 3rd

Software:
1. (PS2, Bandai-Namco) Tales of Destiny - 269,756 / NEW
2. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 176,167 / NEW
3. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 174,297 / NEW
4. (Wii, Nintendo) Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 139,011 / NEW
5. (GBA, Square-Enix) Final Fantasy VI Advance - 137,810 / NEW
6. (PS2, Banpresto) Summon Night 4 - 115,701 / NEW
7. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Diamond - 70,190 / 1,897,417
8. (DS, Nintendo) JUMP ULTIMATE STARS - 66,269 / 216,572
9. (Wii, Nintendo) Wario Ware: Smooth Moves - 63,954 / NEW
10. (DS, Sega) Love and Berry DS Collection - 60,041 / 481,268
~
11. (DS) Pokemon Pearl
12. (DS) Common Knowledge Training
13. (DS) Kirby Squeek Squad
14. (DS) New Super Mario Brothers
15. (DS) Animal Crossing Wild World
16. (DS?) Kamen Rider Kabuto
17. (DS) More Brain Age
18. (PS2) J League Winning Eleven 109
19. (PSP) Makai Senki Disgaea Portable
20. (PS2) Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
21. (Wii) Swing Golf Pangya - 16,908 / NEW
22. (PS2?) Yugioh Duel Monsters GX Spirit Summoner
23. (DS) 200 Mannin Kanji
24. (PS2) Sengoku Musou 2 Empires
25. (DS) Brain Age
26. (DS) Mario Kart DS
27. (DS) Magic Taizen
28. (Wii) Ennichi no Tatsujin - 10,763 / NEW
29. (DS) Go-Touchi Kentei DS
30. (PSP) JEANNE D'ARC
~
31.) English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
32.) Red Steel (Wii, Ubisoft) - 9,392 / NEW
33.) SD Gundam (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 9,226 / NEW
34.) Final Fantasy V Advance (GBA, Square Enix)
35.) Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco)
36.) Final Fantasy III (Incl. Bundled Edition) (NDS, Square Enix)
37.) Tamagotchi Party (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 8,042 / NEW
38.) Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 (NDS, Bandai Namco)
39.) Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
40.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
41.) Digimon (PS2, Bandai Namco)
42.) RESISTANCE (PS3, SCE)
43.) Super Robot Taisen (360, Banpresto)
44.) Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
45.) Kanji Quiz (NDS, Rocket Company)
46.) Bandai Namco ETC Game (NDS)
47.) Elebits (Wii, Konami) - 5,791 / NEW
48.) Winning Eleven DS (Incl. Bundled Edition) (NDS, Konami)
49.) Brain Power - Tokyo Friend Park II (NDS, Rocket Company)
50.) Monster Hunter Portable (PSP the Best) (PSP, Capcom)

Hardware:
Wii 350,358
DSL 176,901
PS3 31,436
PSP 23,917
PS2 23,115
Xbox360 4,053
GBASP 1,572
GBM 1,252
GC 821
DS 140
GBA 22
Xbox 11

YTD / LTD

Wii 350,358 / 350,358
DSL 6,132,183 / 6,132,183
PS3 187,836 / 187,836
PSP 1,564,018 / 4,246,974
PS2 1,297,667 / 20,002,291
Xbox360 107,503 / 178,069
GBASP 215,240 / 5,907,676
GBM 136,719 / 552,408
GC 72,060 / 4,165,650
DS 934,599 / 6,581,548
GBA 3,292 / 8,822,942
Xbox 1,746 / 475,589

-------------------------------------------------------------------

did I label anything in the 11-30 wrong?
I expect Blue Dragon (360) to probably sell atleast 20-25k+ next week w/ about 7k 360's sold (all bundles)  <just my predictions>  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 07, 2006, 02:17:35 AM
I think BD could do much better than that (pushing 100,000) and upwards of 50,000 systems, but it'll be a very quick drop after that.

And how beautiful it is to see a Nintendo console top the chart ANYWHERE in the world once again...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 07, 2006, 03:54:44 AM
Wii's the big news this week, so maybe I should save it for the Wii thread...DS continues to be an animal, no surprise there.  I was a little shocked at how fast Love & Berry dropped.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 07, 2006, 04:31:33 AM
Quote

50.) Monster Hunter Portable (PSP the Best) (PSP, Capcom)
If you say so..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 07, 2006, 04:49:11 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

50.) Monster Hunter Portable (PSP the Best) (PSP, Capcom)
If you say so..


I think he might mean the PSP's best seller in Japan, i think its near 1 million maybe?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2006, 05:05:49 AM
Manufacturer Pac-Man


All System Pac-Man

Portable Pac-Man

Console Pac-Man  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 07, 2006, 05:28:29 AM
Pac Man chomping on Sony's dot and MS's dot.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 07, 2006, 06:13:24 AM
Icecold, Asmodeus: PS* The Best is the name of Sony's Player's Choice equivalent in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 07, 2006, 12:24:55 PM
Handheld NPD for November (console is at the Wii thread):

DS - 918K
GBA - 641K
PSP - 412K

Nintendogs: Dalmatian and Pokemon Ranger were the 9th and 10th top selling games for the month as well.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 07, 2006, 01:12:01 PM
I'm shocked at how powerful the DS has become in EVERY market. It is the number 1 selling system in every single market, AND BY ALOT. No measly 20k difference, we are talking like 100k to 300K.

I know, and so does everyone else here, that the DS games are great, but i can't help but think is that really the pushing factor? The DS phat didn't sell nearly this well. was it all just because of the looks, or did people really hold out that long for a lite?

Also, anyone have any stats to know if the gba or original gameboy sold this well ever? (over the DS life span of 2 years, not over all)  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 07, 2006, 03:53:58 PM
Quote

know, and so does everyone else here, that the DS games are great, but i can't help but think is that really the pushing factor? The DS phat didn't sell nearly this well. was it all just because of the looks, or did people really hold out that long for a lite?
Before May, we were all puzzled about how North America was the only market that hadn't embraced the DS. Here, it was always neck and neck with the PSP, even though it had a much better game library. I found it hard to believe that the DS was not pulling ahead, especially since so many of the franchises which had sold the GBA had been translated successfully to the DS, with better results many times. Even last autumn when all those great games (including Mario Kart DS) came out, there wasn't much of a difference.

I think it was New Super Mario Bros and the DS Lite which did it - since then there is clear separation in the North American market.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 07, 2006, 04:04:33 PM
Well, US customers were still getting used to the DS when the phat was still selling. I mean, there wasn't a insignificant number of people who slighted the DS for it's 'stupid' two screens, lack of built in multimedia, and 'last gen' graphics. The jury was still out, so to say, on the DS until the launch of the DS lite. I'm sure the awesome LCDs, smaller size, and very slick looks of the DSL spurred adoption too.

Can't say i'm disappointed that everyone has warmed up to the DS

3D and HD are nice, but I still really enjoy low-def 2D games a lot too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 07, 2006, 04:17:45 PM
The GBA was also hurting the DS in North America. Less so now, but still some.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 07, 2006, 04:46:17 PM
Yea. $80 for a GBA is really pretty good if you can't afford a DS. And while AAA titles are pretty well not being released for it anymore, it still has lots existing AAA titles and, of course, can play all GB and GBC games.

It's pretty amazing though, 600,000+ units in November... the SP sells little over 4,000 units in a month in Japan on average.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 07, 2006, 11:13:14 PM
Could the GBA even have one more holiday season in it after this one?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 08, 2006, 03:32:34 AM
Yes, GBA has one more holiday left in it.  The sales will be a lot lower, but it'll still be going.

I think New Super Mario Bros was a big deal for North America.  My cousin's boyfriend couldn't stop playing it when we were hanging out at my grandparents' place this summer.  It sold him on the DS.  I have a feeling that we're also seeing the sum of many important games like Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, Brain Training, Mario Kart, Tetris and Metroid adding up.  It's possible that DS Lite took off not just because it was nicer than DS, but also because people were already interested but heard a new version was coming out, so they waited.

Some life to date sales for Brain Training, Animal Crossing and Tetris would be really interesting.  I know Nintendogs is huge, and I can assume the Mario games have done well, but I wonder about those ones?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 08, 2006, 06:33:35 AM
GBA not having a major holiday next year will likely be due to production slashes.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 08, 2006, 07:35:18 AM
Nintendo should have stopped production on GBA a while back and slashed the price of DS/DSLite a little to spur more sales.  GBA sales are eating into DS sales.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 08, 2006, 08:37:42 AM
But they can't make Nintendo DS' fast enough anyways. Heck, they had a temporary PLASTIC SHORTAGE in europe for gosh sakes!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 09, 2006, 05:24:12 AM
GB and GBA never sold this fast in any incarnation.  I know between the GB/GBL (Japan only)/GBC, their total hardware sales were over 100million.  The GBA is somewhere around 80 or 90 million (these are all worldwide numbers), but DS is selling faster than anything ever, including the PS2.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 09, 2006, 10:35:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
But they can't make Nintendo DS' fast enough anyways. Heck, they had a temporary PLASTIC SHORTAGE in europe for gosh sakes!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


If they stopped making GBA's then they would have plastics available to make more DS's.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 10, 2006, 07:10:58 AM
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If they stopped making GBA's then they would have plastics available to make more DS's.
Yea, but if there were no SP's availible Nintendo might not get a sale. GBA still has great games availible and an ever extensive back library. And there is no doubt or hesitancy about the PSP outselling the DS. So I wouldn't be so quick to kill the SP off.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 10, 2006, 10:55:39 AM
GBA is still outselling the PSP, keep it going for as long as it'll go! It just makes Sony look all the more fail.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on December 11, 2006, 03:31:01 AM
this is pretty interesting...

DS Top 100 Japanese sales
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2006, 04:18:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
this is pretty interesting...

DS Top 100 Japanese sales

& the Analysis Too

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on December 11, 2006, 04:37:24 AM
Watch as a solitary tear rolls down my face in sympathy for most of the third parties on DS.

Most of them threw their lot in with the PSP from Day One and are now sent scrambling as Nintendo had to build their empire all by themselves, sans Square Enix, who actually favored DS.  Now that the PSP ship is sinking, it should stand to reason that their fanbase on DS is low, and therefore they may not get as big a piece of the pie.  But it's not like they have much choice in the matter.  PSP software sales are abysmal, so a small piece of a big pie is better than a small piece of a little pie.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 11, 2006, 09:57:21 AM
It's amazing how they single-handedly made the DS such a success..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on December 12, 2006, 12:32:30 AM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
Watch as a solitary tear rolls down my face in sympathy for most of the third parties on DS.

Most of them threw their lot in with the PSP from Day One and are now sent scrambling as Nintendo had to build their empire all by themselves, sans Square Enix, who actually favored DS.  Now that the PSP ship is sinking, it should stand to reason that their fanbase on DS is low, and therefore they may not get as big a piece of the pie.  But it's not like they have much choice in the matter.  PSP software sales are abysmal, so a small piece of a big pie is better than a small piece of a little pie.


Yeah 3rd party developers bet on the wrong horse and now they are scrambling to play catch up. I mean Konami, Capcom, and Sega haven't exactly been putting top notch titles out for DS. Especially Capcom, I'm sure they are rethinking their position now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Nick DiMola on December 12, 2006, 01:32:08 AM
I can't even imagine how bad the PSP will be crushed with DQIX coming out on the DS now. Definitely amazing how succcessful the DS has become. I can at least say that I bought mine 6AM the morning of the launch with Super Mario 64 DS, contributing to it's success in it's infancy.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 12, 2006, 01:53:03 AM
Whats funny to me is how konami constanly keeps supporting the PSP with titles. I mean the 2 metal gear acid titles, that rpg called tower of something, that fps which they are making a sequel too now, and of course they made MGS potable ops, which is the legitimate sequel to MGS 3 and thats a biggie.

Is konami making some sort of a profit off the psp? Whats with all that psp support? Or did they just not want to throw away any engines they made for that system since it looks like they put alot of work into it (considering they were supporting the psp more than ds from day one SANS castlevania.)

What gives, how much of a hit are they willing to take fancially until they give up and put out some more games for the DS or just port their titles over to the PS2 like rockstar did.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 12, 2006, 02:27:48 AM
With regards to Konami, I don't know what their sales are like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony is giving Konami some money hats, and it's also possible that the MGS games are just selling well.  I seem to recall the Acid games doing pretty well. There's something to be said for supporting a "niche" system...there's less competition and you may find that the audience fits right in your target demographic.  This is something Nintendo fans loved to point out during the GameCube era but have conveniently forgotten since DS and Wii started turning things around.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 12, 2006, 02:57:28 AM
I know the first acid sold decently well, but it was a launch title, and it wasn;t the top seller of the launch titles.
As for acid 2 i heard no news of its success, and i know the FPS they released which they are making a sequel to now got a massive price slash because they didn't move enough units before the sequels release. I don't know about the rpg. They have even more games then the ones i'm thinking of for sure.

Personally i don't know anything about niche market or whatever, all i care about is getting developer support with games and series i enjoy. And i enjoy MGS, and i would have liked to see some incarnation either on the DS or Wii (esspecially with kojima's love for Smash brothers, i mean the guy could at least throw nintendo a bone). But at this rate, it looks like konami just sticks with demographics. PSP = mature and DS does not, which makes no sense, the only thing PSP = is expensive.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on December 12, 2006, 04:48:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
I can't even imagine how bad the PSP will be crushed with DQIX coming out on the DS now. Definitely amazing how succcessful the DS has become. I can at least say that I bought mine 6AM the morning of the launch with Super Mario 64 DS, contributing to it's success in it's infancy.


First person in my town to own one (12:00 AM oh yeah...).  Bought Mario 64 because I couldn't find Feel the Magic.  Found it the next day.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 12, 2006, 05:16:35 AM
I got y'all beat!  I was the first and only person to own one in my town the day it came out!

My store sold me one because I threw a hissy fit (They were marked on the boxes to come out that day and Wal*Mart TV was advertising for about a week that they were "on sale now") - but they wanted to save them for the ad that was coming out as well - so they made the decision to sell them to anyone who showed up at midnight and save the rest for that Friday.  And I was the only one who showed up at midnight!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on December 12, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
I didn't see Sonic Rush on that list unless it was written in a different Japanese name. That surprises me. Of all the Sega DS games, I expected that to be the highest. Does Sonic not sell in Japan anymore?

Also, how come Nintendo isn't releasing more copies of older games? Like Wario Ware Touched. I'm sure that could become a 2 million seller. But they have stopped making copies of that game. I don't have it. I'd buy it. And I know at least 3 other people who have DS's who don't have that game and would like to buy it also.

Same with Advance Wars Dual Strike and Yoshi: Touch & Go. All of us would like these games. I'm sure there are plenty more who would be interested in these games. The DS userbase has exploded so much since they were released. I'm sure there is still a market for them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 13, 2006, 03:06:05 AM
It may be the fault of retailers.  I really don't see Nintendo stopping production on any million-plus selling game, but retailers don't really seem to devote as much space to handheld systems as the others.  Just an idea...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on December 13, 2006, 03:49:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Khushrenada
Also, how come Nintendo isn't releasing more copies of older games? Like Wario Ware Touched. I'm sure that could become a 2 million seller. But they have stopped making copies of that game. I don't have it. I'd buy it. And I know at least 3 other people who have DS's who don't have that game and would like to buy it also.

Same with Advance Wars Dual Strike and Yoshi: Touch & Go. All of us would like these games. I'm sure there are plenty more who would be interested in these games. The DS userbase has exploded so much since they were released. I'm sure there is still a market for them.


I got about 10 copies of WW:T sitting on my shelf at Wal*Mart at full price - how many do you want to buy?  Also, I still have some Y:TaG, they're down at $20... how many ya want?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2006, 04:53:16 AM
Pfft, buying on launch day is for lamers, buying three months BEFORE launch is where it's at! Not really because it means you can't get any games in stores. Sawaru Made In Wario lasted me about two days. Haven't checked if anyone else in my town had one but I'm sure as hell not going from door to door asking them, I'd just say there's a very good chance I did. First in my state or country may be stretching it a bit tho.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2006, 05:22:05 AM
Famitsu 12/4 - 12/10:

1. Gundam Seed vs ZAFT II (PS2 - Bandai/Namco)
2. Yakuza 2 (PS2 - Sega)
3. Pokémon Diamond/Pearl (NDS - Pokémon)
4. Blue Dragon (360 - Microsoft)
5. Wii Sports (Wii - Nintendo)
6. Wii Play (Wii - Nintendo)
7. Momotaro Dentetsu 16 (PS2 - Hudson)
8. Love and Berry DS Collection (NDS - Sega)
9. JUMP ULTIMATE STARS (NDS - Nintendo)
10. Kirby Squeak Squad (NDS - Nintendo)

NDS:
Hardware ~250k
DS 1000 Recipes ~40K
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl ~3.5 million (total)
Cooking Navi ~600k (total)
Kirby Squeak Squad ~400k (total)
Love and Berry DS Collection ~550k (total)
Common Sense Training ~650k (total)
NSMB, Brain Training 2, Animal Crossing ~3.5 million (total)

Wii:
Hardware ~100k (still sold out)
Wii Sports, Wii Play ~70k
Zelda ~35k, ~200k (total)

PS2:
Yakuza 2 ~300k
Yakuza Best Price ~200k (total)

PS3:
Hardware ~40k (still supply problems)

360:
Blue Dragon ~80k (incl. bundle)

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2006, 07:22:49 AM
Whoa, a 360 game in the charts!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 13, 2006, 07:29:19 AM
Wii Sports and WiiPlay have like an 85% attach rate or higher, lol. Zelda has about 66% (still amazing). It'll be interesting to see how long Zelda takes to reach a million.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 13, 2006, 09:41:26 AM
So, Xbox 360s last hope.  Any idea how much hardware sold in general? At first I thought it was 80,000, which would be amazing, but then I noticed that's how many copies of Blue Dragon sold. For Microsoft's sake, I hope it sold at least as much as PS3.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 13, 2006, 10:06:06 AM
80k in one week is beastly for the 360. thats what, 10% of the original Xbox's total in japan?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 13, 2006, 10:53:50 AM
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It'll be interesting to see how long Zelda takes to reach a million.
I believe it already has wordlwide, with the Europe launch..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 13, 2006, 02:28:36 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
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It'll be interesting to see how long Zelda takes to reach a million.
I believe it already has wordlwide, with the Europe launch..


I meant in Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2006, 06:11:09 PM
Media Create Dec 4th - 12th

Software:
1. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Gundam SEED: Federation vs ZAFT II - 337,559
2. (PS2, Sega) Yakuza 2 - 274,822
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 98,859 / 1,996,275
4. (X360, Microsoft) Blue Dragon - 80,348
5. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 75,206 / 1,669,367
6. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 72,382 / 248,549
7. (DS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 66,421 / 465,462
8. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 62,863 / 237,160
9. (DS, Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars - 62,068 / 278,640
10. (DS, Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training - 55,208 / 720,752
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11. Love and Berry DS Collection - 54,000 / 536,000
12. New Super Mario Brothers - 54,000 / 3,540,000
13. Momotarou Dentetsu 16
14. 1000 DS Receipes
15. Animal Crossing Wild World - 42,000 / 3,510,000
16. More Brain Age - 37,000 / 3,520,000
17. Zelda no Densetsu: Twilight Princess
18. Tales of Destiny
19. Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
20. Final Fantasy VI Advance
21. Brighter than Dawning Blue
22. Power Pro Kun Pocket 9
23. Odoru Made in Wario
24. Kirarin Star Revolution Naasan to Issho
25. Brain Age
26. Mario Kart DS - 19,000 / 1,784,000
27. 200 Mannin Kanji - 19,000 / 111,000
28. DS Cuisine Navigator
29. J League Winning Eleven 10
30. English Training DS
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37. Final Fantasy III - 11,000 / 888,000
40. Gotouchi Kentei DS - 8,900 / 34,000
41. ?something? - 8,600
42. Tetris DS - 8600 / 926,000
56. Swing Golf Panya - 5,700 / 23,000
59. SD Gundam SCAD Hammers - 4,800 / 14,000
61. Rhythm Tengoku - 4,600 / 264,000
64. Parappa the Rapper PSP - 4,600
65. Phoenix Wright Justice for All Best Price - 4,200 / 61,000
69. ?No clue? - 3,900 / 133,000
78. Red Steel - 3,100 / 12,000
79. Tingle - 3,100 / 190,000
81. Custom Robo DS - 3,000 / 90,000
82. DOAX2? - 3,000 / 52,000
89. Phoenix Wright Best Price - 2,500 / 118,000
100. Crayon Shinchan Wii - 1,900 / 6,200


Hardware:
DSL 309,630
Wii 85,439
PS3 50,171
Xbox360 35,343
PS2 30,460
PSP 28,930
GBASP 1,896
GBM 1,555
GC 569
DS 167
GBA 17
Xbox 6


expect 360 to hit around 27-37k in hardware sales (my guess) and PS3 to hold onto its second place status for now.
Noone should be too shocked by the 17th place Zelda TP since I posted the famitsu earlier this morning.
It aslo good to see NSMB, AC, MBA still holding on w/ more than 35k+ sale a week.  

edit: added in hardware #'s   & new software, mostly translated by cvxfreak of NeoGaf  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on December 14, 2006, 02:33:42 AM
1,2, and 4 aren't Nintendo's this week.  The System is DOOOOOOMEEEDDDDDD
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 14, 2006, 03:04:36 AM
14. 1000 DS Receipes - Nintendo can even sell more cookbooks than most third party games. This is the dawning of a new era, a new type of casual gamer.  If you don't believe me, compare what's happening with DS in Europe and North America right now to what happened in Japan last Christmas.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 14, 2006, 08:13:19 AM
are there even any PS3 titles in that top 30, or the top 50 for that matter?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2006, 04:33:31 PM
^^^^^^ hardware updated.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 14, 2006, 11:06:45 PM
The longer PS3 software fails this horribly to sell, the more third parties will look to Nintendo in Japan. I know there are quite a few places missing in that top 100 list, but from what is shown, there are no PS3 games (from what I can tell).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 15, 2006, 12:16:52 AM
I think he cut anything that wasn't relevant to Nintendo.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 15, 2006, 01:59:05 AM
ah, then that explains it :p
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 15, 2006, 03:24:37 AM
I heard there were no PS3 games in the top 30, but don't quote me on that.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 15, 2006, 05:23:43 AM
Well, the first thirty spots are listed and unless that "brighter than the dawning blue" thing is for the PS3...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2006, 06:55:39 AM
I only posted what they translated, as I can't read Japanese myself.
If they translate more of the Top 100 I'll post the rest of it, sorry.

But no PS3 games were in the Top 30.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on December 15, 2006, 07:06:28 AM
Putting it in prospective.  Are there enough PS3's out there for Sony to have enough people to buy a game to put it in the top 30 without a 1:1 tie-in-ratio?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 15, 2006, 07:38:58 AM
PSP: 29,000. This time last year it was at least doing 75k-100k.

Geez... what are they going to say in their 2007 keynotes/media briefing on behalf of PSP? (or whatever event will take the place of E3...)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 15, 2006, 07:59:25 AM
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Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 15, 2006, 08:52:42 AM
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WE ARE MADE OF PHAIL AND INTERNET!!
Certainly is one possibility...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2006, 09:10:51 AM
I don't think any one 1 game has sold to even 1/4 of the PS3 userbase, the software sales are really really bad
in japan.

edit: thats weird, I wrote this as a reply to Ceric about 2 hours ago, and it just went through... my internets iz broken
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2006, 04:10:08 AM
Famitsu Dec. 11 - 17
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...64776,0,0.html

01 NDS Pokemon D/P
02 NDS Kirby
03 PS2 Ryu Ga Gotoku 2
04 NDS Fushigi no Dungeon Shiren DS
05 NDS Rockman
06 NDS Love and Berry DS Collection
07 NDS New SMB
08 PS2 Wild Arms V
09 NDS Jump Ultimate Stars
10 Wii Wii Sports

Where are all the Wii games? Is new/next gen doomed to fail in Japan because of DS domination? Does no one care about consoles any more? Well, we'll see what happens when Media-Create is released later today, I'm sure things might look a little different.

But NSMB is back in the Top 10, with a chance at hitting 4mil now
P: D/P = 3.7mil
NSMB = 3.5mil

and suppoedly DS is at around 400k for the week and just under a 1mil for the first 2 weeks of Dec.
DQMJ is supposed to launch in 2 weeks in Japan, so its possible that DS could hit real close to 2mil in one month in Japan.

edited for spelling corrections  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 20, 2006, 04:21:17 AM
Wii will do better eventually, it's just a matter of Wii competing against a system that has, what, like 14 million users in Japan?  If you look to the early days of DS, it would be no surprise that PS2 games kept dominating the top 10 instead of DS.

Though now that you mention it, I took a peek at VGcharts, and according to them the top 20 all-time games in Japan are heavily dominated by Game Boy and DS.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 20, 2006, 06:45:51 AM
05 NDS Rockman

Huh? Is that Ryuusei no Rockman (new EXE series) or what?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 20, 2006, 09:31:20 AM
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But NSMB is back in the Top 10, with a chance at hitting 4mil now
There was that chart comparing Super Mario World to NSMB - apparently, SMB and SMB3 did really well in Japan (obviously) but SMW was weak there compared to the rest of the world. I wonder how much New Super Mario Bros has sold worldwide..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on December 20, 2006, 10:32:32 AM
My guess? 9 mil.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2006, 10:42:38 AM
I'm sure its alot closer to 7(or 8) than it is to 9
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 20, 2006, 01:03:21 PM
gotta be 42 million copies.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2006, 02:50:03 PM
Media Create Dec. 11th - 17th

Software:
1. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 123,573 / 2,119,848
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 97,409 / 1,766,776
3. (DS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 92,173 / 557,634
4. (DS, Sega) Fushigi no Dungeon: Furai no Shiren - 88,242
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 77,761 / 3,617,021
6. (DS, Sega) Love and Berry DS Collection - 72,841 / 608,545
7. (DS, Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars - 71,339 / 349,979
8. (PS2, SCE) Wild Arms 5 - 70,476
9. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 69,923 / 318,473
10. (Wii, Pokemon) Pokemon Battle Revolution - 67,607

Pokemon DP total: 220,982 / 3,886,624

11. Common Knowledge Training
12. Wii Play
13. Animal Crossing Wild World
14. Yakuza 2
15. Recipe 1000 DS
16. Puyo Puyo!
17. Gundam SEED DESTNY Federation vs ZAFT II PLUS
18. More Brain Age
19. Naruto Shinobi Retsuden
20. Ryuusei no Rockman Pegasus
21. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 Ketteiban
22. World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 Ubiquitous Evolution (PSP)
23. Ryuusei no Rockman Dragon
24. MAPLUS Portable Navigator
25. 200 Mannin Kanji
26. Ryuusei no Rockman Leo
27. Mario Kart DS
28. Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
29. Momotarou Dentetsu 16
30. Brain Age

Ranking

DS: 19
PS2: 6
Wii: 3
PSP: 2
PS3/360/GBA: 0

Hardware:
Tomorrow as usual

Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
Thats not to bad for the Wii being a new system and the DS still dominates.

But what about Zelda? It didn't even make the Top 30. Did the Wii sell out to all the Non-gamers? Are all the Zelda fans stuck with a GC at the moment and have to purchase that version off the internet(which isn't tracked by MC)? Is Zelda just a HUGE flop or can we blame it on a software shortage?  

But as far as Nintendo Hardware Dominating the software charts yet again....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on December 20, 2006, 03:09:56 PM
Thats not to bad for the Wii being a new system and the DS still dominates.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 20, 2006, 04:10:51 PM
Yea... and what happened to Blue Dragon? Geez it couldn't even be bothered to stick around for 2 weeks, eh?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2006, 04:22:30 PM
Oh and one of the 2 PSP softwares isn't even a game, its a GPS navigation program @ #24.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 20, 2006, 05:55:21 PM
Zelda is selling fine, I'm sure. There just aren't a ton of people capable of buying it right now! When a new Pokemon game sells less than 70,000 in its first week you know you have hardware supply problems!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 20, 2006, 08:13:10 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Yea... and what happened to Blue Dragon? Geez it couldn't even be bothered to stick around for 2 weeks, eh?



I know. It's too bad, I'm really hyped for Blue Dragon too... You know if this was on PS3 or Wii it would have been #1-3 up there for sure! ... Actually only if it were for DS.... or Wii.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on December 21, 2006, 02:34:07 AM
It's not that uncommon for second-tier RPGs to fall off the chart pretty fast.  We've been seeing it all year - I remember it happening to a few, particularly Xenosaga III.  And don't forget, at 80,000 units sold, about 1/3 of all Xbox 360 owners in Japan already have Blue Dragon.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 21, 2006, 01:16:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Media Create Dec. 11th - 17th

Software:
1. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 123,573 / 2,119,848
2. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 97,409 / 1,766,776
3. (DS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 92,173 / 557,634
4. (DS, Sega) Fushigi no Dungeon: Furai no Shiren - 88,242
5. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 77,761 / 3,617,021
6. (DS, Sega) Love and Berry DS Collection - 72,841 / 608,545
7. (DS, Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars - 71,339 / 349,979
8. (PS2, SCE) Wild Arms 5 - 70,476
9. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 69,923 / 318,473
10. (Wii, Pokemon) Pokemon Battle Revolution - 67,607

Pokemon DP total: 220,982 / 3,886,624

11. Common Knowledge Training
12. Wii Play
13. Animal Crossing Wild World
14. Yakuza 2
15. Recipe 1000 DS
16. Puyo Puyo!
17. Gundam SEED DESTNY Federation vs ZAFT II PLUS
18. More Brain Age
19. Naruto Shinobi Retsuden
20. Ryuusei no Rockman Pegasus
21. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 Ketteiban
22. World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 Ubiquitous Evolution (PSP)
23. Ryuusei no Rockman Dragon
24. MAPLUS Portable Navigator
25. 200 Mannin Kanji
26. Ryuusei no Rockman Leo
27. Mario Kart DS
28. Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
29. Momotarou Dentetsu 16
30. Brain Age

Ranking Top 50
DS:31
PS2:7
Wii:6
PSP:2
PS3:2
GBA:1
X360:1

Hardware:
DSL 319,708
Wii 108,237
PS3 70,942
PSP 48,962
PS2 37,730
Xbox360 17,168
GBASP 1,867
GBM 1,491
GC 1,152
DS 158
GBA 42
Xbox 3


hardware updated

and Zelda fell in at #33 w/ Blue Dragon is at #46



   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 21, 2006, 01:35:12 PM
Wow, Sony actually has more than 300,000 units in Japan..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 21, 2006, 03:37:50 PM
Japan (Chinese businessmen selling them to people in other countries) has more than the US.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MarioAllStar on December 21, 2006, 04:31:51 PM
Wait...so Wii and PS3 have both (individually) already sold more than the Xbox 360? Wow, I knew Xbox wasn't big in Japan but that is just shocking.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 21, 2006, 07:46:25 PM
Also cool I think is that 318,473 copies of Wii Sports have been purchased. That means that over half of the Wii customers are buying Wii Sports as well. Which bodes well for continued development of Wii Play / Wii Sports type of games, and that makes me happy.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: segagamer12 on December 23, 2006, 04:13:39 AM
is Wiiplay the one that has Duck Hunt on it? Cuz all i want now is DH!!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on December 23, 2006, 07:24:32 AM
I'll tell you tomorrow when I get my Wii Play.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 23, 2006, 12:58:27 PM
It does have it.  It's awesome fun.  Though i would say my favourites are billiads, tanks and cow racing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 27, 2006, 05:05:45 AM
Famitsu top ten (12/18-12/24):

1 NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (Nintendo)
2 NDS New Super Mario Bros (Nintendo)
3 PS2 Seiken Densetsu 4 (Square Enix) NEW
4 NDS Kirby Squeak Squad (Nintendo)
5 NDS Jump Ulitmate Stars (Nintendo)
6 Wii Wii Sports (Nintendo)
7 PSP Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (Konami) NEW
8 NDS Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
9 Wii Wii Play (Nintendo)
10 NDS Love & Berry (Sega)

still waiting for M-C #'s
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 27, 2006, 05:14:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MarioAllStar
Wait...so Wii and PS3 have both (individually) already sold more than the Xbox 360? Wow, I knew Xbox wasn't big in Japan but that is just shocking.


I'm actually stunned the 360 has over 200k sold in Japan...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 27, 2006, 05:24:56 AM
New Super Mario Bros is now pretty much the highest selling Mario game of all time, not counting SMB with its pack-in or whatever.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 27, 2006, 05:35:53 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
New Super Mario Bros is now pretty much the highest selling Mario game of all time, not counting SMB with its pack-in or whatever.


Actually, it has a ways to go.

Wouldn't have thought that Mario 64 would have 11+ mil copies under its belt...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on December 27, 2006, 06:42:16 AM
Who guessed 9 million sold at year's end?!

Was that me?!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 27, 2006, 08:05:25 AM
That seems low for the US.  I remember Nintendo actually releasing US numbers for 64 games and Mario 64 had sold near 10 million in the US with Zelda OOT going for 6.5 million and Goldeneye selling 7.5 million.  If you add the DS version it's over 16 million according to that chart.  I wonder how many downloads of it have occurred on the VC.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on December 27, 2006, 08:30:52 AM
Well all  those games you mentioned are TOTAL sales. You see, I'm just talking about 2006' sales. 9 mil world wide.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 27, 2006, 08:36:01 AM
Heh, I was actually responding to SB.  I should've quoted him or been clearer.  I agree with you that 9 million by the end of the year is very likely.  Possibly closer to 10 million with the way the DS is selling right now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Requiem on December 27, 2006, 08:37:22 AM
Oh....

haha, my bad.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 27, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
New Super Mario Bros is now pretty much the highest selling Mario game of all time, not counting SMB with its pack-in or whatever.


Actually, it has a ways to go.

Wouldn't have thought that Mario 64 would have 11+ mil copies under its belt...

In Japan I meant, referring to the new Japanese sales chart, and don't insult me with a vgcharts link. :P
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 27, 2006, 07:36:50 PM
NSMB has probably passed SMW, although I don't think it's above Super Mario Bros 3. VGCharts says it is, but I'd like to see more solid sales figures. Worldwide, I'd like to see it reach at least N64 level..
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Wouldn't have thought that Mario 64 would have 11+ mil copies under its belt...
Are you kidding me? It's only one of the best games created, which pioneered analogue control, had the best 3D world ever at the time, and took the world by storm. Not to mention it was one of only two N64 games available at launch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2006, 06:12:48 AM
Media Create Dec. 18th -24th

Software:
1. (NDS / Nintendo) Pokemon Diamant - 209.379 / 2.329.227
2. (PSP / Konami) Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - 178.370 / NEW
3. (NDS / Nintendo) Pokemon Pearl - 164.670 / 1.931.445
4. (NDS / Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 154.107 / 3.771.128
5. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Sports - 152.756 / 471.229
6. (PS2 / Square Enix) Seiken Densetsu 4 - 152.062 / NEW
7. (NDS / Nintendo) Kirby Squeak Squad - 149.350 / 706.984
8. (NDS / Sega) Love and Berry DS Collection - 139.382 / 747.926
9. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Play - 137.495 / 439.323
10. (NDS / Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars - 134.551 / 484.529
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11. (PSP / Bandai Namco) Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology / NEW
12. (NDS / Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World
13. (NDS / Nintendo) Otona no Joushikiryoku Training DS
14. (NDS / Nintendo) Dr. Kawashima: More Brain Training
15. (NDS / Bandai Namco) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi Gohiikini
16. (NDS / Spike) Nounai Aesthe: IQ Suppli DS / NEW
17. (NDS / Nintendo) Mario Kart DS
18. (NDS / Nintendo) Shaberu! Oryouri Nabi
19. (Wii / Nintendo) Pokemon Battle Revolution
20. (Wii / Nintendo) Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
21. (Wii / Nintendo) Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
22. (NDS / Nintendo) Dr. Kawashima: Brain Training
23. (PS2 / Sega) Yakuza 2
24. (NDS / Tomy Entertainment) Naruto Shinobi Retsuden DS
25. (NDS / IE Institute) 200 Bannin no Kan Ken: Tokoton Kanji Nou
26. (PS3 / From Software) Armored Core 4 / NEW
27. (NDS / Bandai Namco) Heisei Kyouikuiinkai DS / NEW
28. (360 / Capcom) Lost Planet: Extreme Condition / NEW
29. (NDS / Shogakukan Production) DS Kageyama Method
30. (NDS / Capcom) Mega Man Star Force: Pegasus
31. Magic Taizen (DS)
32. Cooking Navi (DS)
33. English Training for Adults (DS)
34. Gundam SEED Destiny Alliance vs ZAFT II Plus (PS2)
35. Ryusei no Rockman Leo (DS)
36. Kirarin Revolution (DS)
37. Kanji Training (DS)
38. Ryusei no Rockman Dragon (DS)
39. Chocobo and the Magic Picture Book (DS)
40. Ryu ga Gotoku The Best (PS2)
41. Fuurai no Shiren (DS)
42. PawaPuro-kun Pocket 9 (DS)
43. Tetris DS (DS)
44. Momotetsu 16 (PS2)
45. Prince of Tennis Doki Doki Survival (PS2)
46. Mario Basket 3on3 (DS)
47. Final Fantasy III (DS)
48. Winning Eleven 10 (PSP)
49. Power Pro Baseball 13 (PS2)
50. Need For Speed Carbon (PS2)

Hardware:
DSL 485,584
Wii 279,277
PSP 138,588
PS3 76,882
PS2 46,209
Xbox360 17,213
GBM 2,394
GBASP 1,858
GC 1,250
DS 380
GBA 57
Xbox 11
   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 28, 2006, 02:28:08 PM
Hm... Well Xbox got a holiday boost. 11 units sold

I'd be curious to see what the European and US holiday numbers are. But I gather we won't get that info until mid-January, if ever for Europe. Wii is about 2 million, but that was through november.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on December 28, 2006, 03:27:43 PM
I'm happy to see Love and Berry hold its own in the top 10. The game will easily hit 1 million soon. I'm also pleased  to see the # of Wii sales compared to PS3... Oh, and the lack of any PS3 titles in the top 50 aside from Armored Core 4, and thats at 26.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 28, 2006, 05:56:47 PM
Yea... You could spin these Christmas week sales numbers by saying that the competition for a weekly top 10 title was stiff. 135,000 units as the minimum to enter the top 10 is quite high. (the non-holiday average, for 10th place, (looking back through posts) is around 20-25k)

But, but that shouldn't prevent PS3 from having more then one title in the top 50. I mean this was Christmas week. You get extra sales because, you know, it's Christmas.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 29, 2006, 03:42:21 AM
It's funny Zelda is in 21st but probably sold around 50,000 or something. That's good for nearly top 5 usually. I suspect the next three weeks will see that 20ish trio of Wii games get much much closer to the top 10. Zelda will probably have the slowest climb past a million of any major title.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 29, 2006, 05:33:32 AM
Zelda won't reach a million.  It's just no longer popular enough in Japan.  The popular games are the "non-games" like Wii-sports and Brain Training, not true traditional games minus Mario and Final Fantasy.

So I expect Zelda to get no higher than 500,000 in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2006, 05:36:45 AM
Yup, Famitshoe condemned Zelda.  39/40 or whatever the score was.

The market no longer needs it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 29, 2006, 05:43:29 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Yup, Famitshoe condemned Zelda.  39/40 or whatever the score was.

The market no longer needs it.


Heh, that's funny, the majority of publications and reviews have deemed this Zelda better than any other before it, yet it got a lower score from Famitsu than Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker which both got 40/40.  Funny funny stuff.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 29, 2006, 05:54:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Zelda won't reach a million.  It's just no longer popular enough in Japan.  The popular games are the "non-games" like Wii-sports and Brain Training, not true traditional games minus Mario and Final Fantasy.

So I expect Zelda to get no higher than 500,000 in Japan.


Which is why New Super Mario Bros. is the highest selling individual DS game, right? (second if you count the two Pokemon games as one)

If Zelda doesn't sell a million it's only because of a lack of launch supplies. But it will. It's already coming close to 500,000 and should pass it by the end of January (at least).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 29, 2006, 05:55:13 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario In Japan I meant, referring to the new Japanese sales chart, and don't insult me with a vgcharts link. :P


Find me a better source and I'll gladly use it.

Quote

...and Wind Waker which both got 40/40


WW got a perfect score? What the hell...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 29, 2006, 06:27:39 AM
Quote

WW got a perfect score? What the hell...
It makes sense--Wind Waker was perfect.  Although, I did feel a bit gypped when Jabun just up and gave me the third pearl without completing a dungeon.

Twilight Princess lost a point because it was "too hard", which actually earns it an extra point in my book.  41/40.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 29, 2006, 06:30:12 AM
Yeah, WW did get a perfect score from Famitsu...which is weird because I thought the game felt rushed and incomplete in some areas (and Nintendo DID confirm that they deleted two dungeons so they could meet the deadline), it was easier than the earlier Zelda games and the final boss battle was a disappointment. Not to mention that the game put too much emphasis on graphics than tightening the gameplay and challenge.

The story was neat, though.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 29, 2006, 07:02:49 AM
I thought the final WW boss was actually challenging, unlike the TP bosses which were all pushovers.

If anything, I thought TP was too easy, which further makes me want to spit on the Famitsu editors.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2006, 07:27:25 AM
See, once Wind Waker + Famitsu is thrown in the mix, no one can agree on anything when it comes to Zelda.

MAGAZINES NOT TO BE TRUSTED ANYMORE

DEAD FRANCHISE
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on December 29, 2006, 07:48:34 AM
WW would have been better with another 2 dungeons... Anything to make it have less ocean.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 29, 2006, 08:48:56 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I thought the final WW boss was actually challenging, unlike the TP bosses which were all pushovers.

If anything, I thought TP was too easy, which further makes me want to spit on the Famitsu editors.


I meant disappointing as in I expected some more epic akin to the boss battles in OoT and MM. I was expecting to face Ganondorf more than once in the final battle.

The bosses were challenging, yeah, but the game felt easier for me...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 29, 2006, 09:00:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Zelda won't reach a million.  It's just no longer popular enough in Japan.  The popular games are the "non-games" like Wii-sports and Brain Training, not true traditional games minus Mario and Final Fantasy.

So I expect Zelda to get no higher than 500,000 in Japan.


Which is why New Super Mario Bros. is the highest selling individual DS game, right? (second if you count the two Pokemon games as one)
Quote



Did you read my entire post?  

I was actually going to put RPGs rather than Final Fantasy but screwed it up.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on December 29, 2006, 09:52:24 AM
Oops, I did miss the minus part. But still. They've proven repeatedly they will buy regular games.

Zelda is already past 300,000 you really think it won't pass 500?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 30, 2006, 12:06:38 PM
Eh, I may be wrong or I may be right.  We won't know for a while anyways.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 01, 2007, 05:35:42 AM
Wait a minute.  How do you know it has sold 300,000 in Japan?  I didn't see any numbers for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 01, 2007, 05:48:16 AM
I was probably over by about 20-30,000, but still. It sold about 140,000 its first week and has sold 20,000-50,000 each week since then putting it at 250,000 or slightly over. That would've been a week ago yesterday so it's around 300,000 now. VGCharts has more specific numbers but I trust M-Create more and Famitsu. It's been low on the chart but the top 20-30 have all been really close. There's just no way it won't pass 500,000.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ryancoke on January 03, 2007, 09:48:46 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Nintendo DID confirm that they deleted two dungeons so they could meet the deadline


It would be awesome if Nintendo completed windwaker with the 2 dungeons back in and added wiimote functionality just like TP. I'd buy it again fo sho.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 03, 2007, 10:35:05 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ryancoke
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Nintendo DID confirm that they deleted two dungeons so they could meet the deadline


It would be awesome if Nintendo completed windwaker with the 2 dungeons back in and added wiimote functionality just like TP. I'd buy it again fo sho.


Eh, too much water traveling in that game.  I highly enjoyed it but don't think I could play through it again.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 07, 2007, 09:12:32 AM
1 Dragon Quest Monsters Joker - 641,250
2 Pokemon Diamond / Pearl DS - 139,500 (4,496,750)
3 Wii Sports - 104,750 (589,000)
4 Wii Play - 84,500 (534,750)
5 New Super Mario Bros - 83,250 (4,013,750)
6 Common Knowledge Training DS - 74,000 (1,033,000)
7 Brain Training 2 DS - 69,500 (3,986,500)
8 Seiken Densetsu 4 - 62,000 (218,000)
9 Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - 56,250 (209,500)
10 Animal Crossing: Wild World - 53,500 (4,044,500)
11 Kirby Squeak Squad - 52,750 (789,750)
12 Jump Ultimate Stars   - 51,750 (561,250)
14 Love and Berry DS Collection   - 48,500 (801,000)
15 Rockman Star Force - 46,750   (249,250)
16 Wario Ware Smooth Moves - 41,250 (205,250)
17 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 34,750 (292,000)
18 Mario Kart DS 33,000   (2,024,000)
20 Brain Training (30,750   3,273,250)

DS - 294,750
(-42%)    14,239,250
Wii - 181,250
(-37%)    1,040,250
PSP - 79,500
(-44%)    4,760,750
PS3 - 51,250
(-33%)    446,750

Notables:
-Moving DQIX to the DS is looking like a brilliant move toe S-E right now.
-NSMB and Animal Crossing have both crossed 4 million.
-Zelda will hit 300,000 next week. It's current attach rate is 28% which isn't the same as here, but is very strong considering a larger portion of Japanese non-gamers are buying the system.
-On that note, over one million Wiis sold in Japan!
-Mario Kart DS joins every other game in the series in the over two million copies club.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 07, 2007, 10:08:41 AM
Are these the #'s from VGcharts?

actually I'm assuming that they are from Famitsu since Pokemon: D/P is combined.
supposedly last weeks Media-Create #'s come out today too.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 08, 2007, 07:34:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Are these the #'s from VGcharts?

actually I'm assuming that they are from Famitsu since Pokemon: D/P is combined.
supposedly last weeks Media-Create #'s come out today too.


Well, since you seem to be the only one who can find MC's numbers easily, I guess that is why we haven't seen them yet.

On a side note, ha, Zelda has not reached 300,000 yet.  Though I still believe others are right and it may hit 500,000 at some point.  It won't reach 1 million though.

Go Animal Crossing and Mario and next week, Brain Training 2 as well.

Oh and FYI, Mario Kart Super Circuit for the GBA did not reach 2 million in sales in Japan so not every game in the series has reached this milestone.

Common Knowledge Training is the next in an endless line of 1 million sellers for the DS.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2007, 06:48:53 PM
Media Create Dec 25th - 31st  

Software:
1. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (NDS, Square-Enix) 593,994
2. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo) 95,479 [566,707]
3. Wii Play (Wii, Nintendo) 83,487 [522,810]
4. Common Sense Training (NDS, Nintendo) 72,159 [953,520]
5. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo) 69,168 [3,840,296]
6. Brain Training 2 (NDS, Nintendo) 61,033 [3,706,467]
7. Pokémon Diamond (NDS, Nintendo) 56,222 [2,385,450]
8. Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops (PSP, Konami) 51,951 [230,321]
9. Animal Crossing Wild World (NDS, Nintendo) 50,248 [3,748,915]
10. Seiken Densetsu 4 (PS2, Square-Enix) 48,405 [200,467]
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11. Yakuza 2 (PS2, Sega)
12. Pokémon Pearl (NDS, Nintendo)
13. Tales of the World (PSP, Namco)
14. Jump Ultimate Stars (NDS, Nintendo)
15. Kirby Squeak Squad (NDS, Nintendo)
16. Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo)
17. Yakuza - The Best (PS2, Sega)
18. Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Wii, Nintendo)
19. DS Menu Collection (NDS, Nintendo)
20. Zelda Twilight Princess (Wii, Nintendo)
21. Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
22. 200 millions Kanjis (NDS, IE Institute)
23. Oshare Majô Love & Berry (NDS, Sega)
24. Momotarô Densetsu 16 (PS2, Hudson)
25. Kanji Test (NDS, Rocket Co.)
26. English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
27. Kanji Exercise (NDS, Nowpro)
28. Pokémon Battle Revolution (Wii, Nintendo)
29. Gundam Seed Destiny Union Vs. ZAFT II + (PS2, Bandai)
30. Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
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31. Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 (NDS, Bandai Namco)
32. Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
33. Shiren DS (NDS, Sega)
34. Formula One Championship Edition (PS3, SCE)
35. Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix)
36. Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA, Square Enix)
37. Kanji IQ Test (NDS, Spike)
38. Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
39. World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (PSP, Konami)
40. Armoured Cord 4 (PS3, From Software)
41. Magic Taizen (NDS, Nintendo)
42. Resistance (PS3, SCE)
43. Live Power Pro Baseball 13 (PS2, Konami)
44. Monster Hunter Portable (The Best) (PSP, Capcom)
45. Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco)
46. Formula One 2006 (PS2, SCE)
47. Rockman Pegasus (NDS, Capcom)
48. Power Pro Pocket 9 (NDS, Konami)
49. Chocobo & the Magic Picturebook (NDS, Square Enix)
50. Wild Arms 5 (PS2, SCE)

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2006 Sales | Lifetime Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 176,219 | 485,584 | 7,423,324 | 7,423,324
2.) Nintendo Wii - 96,332 | 279,277 | 919,643 | 919,643
3.) PlayStation 3 - 71,727 | 76,882 | 457,558 | 457,558
4.) PlayStation Portable - 68,675 | 138,588 | 1,849,173 | 4,532,129
5.) PlayStation 2 - 38,169 | 46,209 | 1,450,235 | 20,154,859
6.) Xbox 360 - 16,909 | 17,213 | 194,136 | 264,702
7.) Game Boy micro - 2,082 | 2,394 | 144,241 | 559,930
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,743 | 1,858 | 220,746 | 5,915,040
9.) GameCube - 847 | 1,250 | 75,878 | 4,169,468
10.) Nintendo DS - 102 | 380 | 935,406 | 6,582,355
11.) Game Boy Advance - 51 | 57 | 3,459 | 8,823,109
12.) Xbox - 4 | 11 | 1,770 | 475,613

Nintendo holding steady at:
08 of the Top 10
15 of the Top 20
23 of the Top 30  
29 of the Top 40
33 of the Top 50
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on January 10, 2007, 02:25:44 AM
I didn't think DQ Monsters would be that big, being a spin-off and all, but good going.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SixthAngel on January 10, 2007, 04:07:39 AM
I read an article yesterday that said the DS was selling so well it was only sligtly less rare then the Wii in US stores.  I don't remember the link but this makes a lot of sense with people saying they couldn't find a ds lite.  The DS is simply unstoppable everywhere.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 10, 2007, 08:54:56 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: SixthAngel
I read an article yesterday that said the DS was selling so well it was only sligtly less rare then the Wii in US stores.  I don't remember the link but this makes a lot of sense with people saying they couldn't find a ds lite.  The DS is simply unstoppable everywhere.


I think it's also considered the fastest selling system in Europe ever, just like in Japan.

It is seriously a good time to be a Nintendo fanboy.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 10, 2007, 07:34:09 PM
At last.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2007, 06:13:08 AM
I updated it even more.
And last weeks #'s should b eposted sometime today too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 11, 2007, 06:33:16 AM
how about now then?  lol
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on January 11, 2007, 06:40:20 AM
I find it odd (hilarious) that PS3 sold close to as many systems as Wii sold, yet there are no games in the top 30 (and only five in the top 50).
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 11, 2007, 07:15:49 AM
It's amazing that the DSL nearly outsold the lifetime sales of the original GBA in only 9 months (or was it 8 months?).  It is a force that cannot be stopped anytime soon.  It may outsell lifetime sales of the Famicom at some point.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 11, 2007, 07:17:35 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
I find it odd (hilarious) that PS3 sold close to as many systems as Wii sold, yet there are no games in the top 30 (and only five in the top 50).


The PSP has done that, it's nothing to really be worried about right now.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 11, 2007, 08:19:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
I find it odd (hilarious) that PS3 sold close to as many systems as Wii sold, yet there are no games in the top 30 (and only five in the top 50).


Yes, but the PS3 sold that many with many left in stores. The Wii sold that many and sold out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 11, 2007, 09:04:38 AM
Considering how many people buy a PS3 only to return it when they figure out that they don't sell on eBay I wouldn't be surprised if PS3 sales numbers were actually going DOWN at times.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2007, 05:30:57 PM
I'm surprised no one posted December NPD

Courtesy of NPD

HW Sales (month and LTD)
Nintendo DS 1.6 mill 9.2 mill
PS2 1.4 mill 37.1 mill
GBA 850.7 K 35.1 mill
Xbox 360 1.1 mill 4.5 mill
Wii 604.2 K 1.1 mill
PSP 953.2 K 6.7 mill
PS3 490.7 K 687.3 K

Top 10 Video Games - December 2006
360 GEARS OF WAR - MICROSOFT 815.7 K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR - ACTIVISION 805.2 K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 07 - ELECTRONIC ARTS 737.1 K
GCN LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS - NINTENDO 532.9 K
Wii LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS - NINTENDO 519.2 K
PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS. RAW 2007 - THQ 484.5 K
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - NINTENDO 427.5 K
360 CALL OF DUTY 3 - ACTIVISION 410.8 K
NDS YOSHI'S ISLAND 2 - NINTENDO 407.2 K
PS2 CALL OF DUTY 3 - ACTIVISION 365.3 K

Top 10 Video Games - Annual 2006
PS2 MADDEN NFL 07 - ELECTRONIC ARTS 2.8 mill
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - NINTENDO 2.0 mill
360 GEARS OF WAR - MICROSOFT 1.8 mill
PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS II - SQUARE ENIX 1.7 mill
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR - ACTIVISION 1.3 mill
PS2 FINAL FANTASY XII - SQUARE ENIX 1.3 mill
NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN - NINTENDO 1.1mill
360 MADDEN NFL 07 - ELECTRONIC ARTS 1.1mill
360 TOM CLANCY'S GRAW - UBISOFT 1.0 mill
PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 07- ELECTRONIC ARTS 1.0 mill


Top 10 Titles - December 2006 INCLUDES ALL PLATFORMS (consoles and portables)
Madden NFL 07 - Electronic Arts 1.9 mill
Call Of Duty 3 - Activision 1.1 mill
Cars - THQ 874.0 k
Need for Speed: Carbon - Electronic Arts 871.6 k
360 GEARS OF WAR - MICROSOFT 815.7 K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR - ACTIVISION 805.2 K
Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy - LucasArts 792.3 K
WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2007 - THQ 731.6 K
Tony Hawk's Project 8 - Activision 713.9 K
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance - Activision 642.9 K


Top 10 Accessory Items - December 2006 Units
360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER 823.8 k
Wii REMOTE CONTROLLER 646.7 k
Wii NUNCHUK CONTROLLER 497.1 k
PS2 8 MEG MEMORY CARD 474.8 k
PS3 SIXAXIS WIRELESS CONTROLLER 336.0 k
PS2 MEMORY CARD 8 MEG 286.0 k
PS2/PS DUAL SHOCK2 CONTL 263.4 k
PS2/PS BLUE DL SH2 CNTL 245.2 k
360 PLAY & CHARGE KIT 224.6 k
PS2 CORDLESS ACTION CNTLR 219.9 k

 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2007, 05:39:40 PM
Oh and Media Create Jan 1st - Jan. 7th in the NEW for '07 Pac-Man chart.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 11, 2007, 05:59:53 PM
Why are hardware sales listed in millimetres?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2007, 06:09:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Why are hardware sales listed in millimetres?

Thats a good question, I guess I'll go fix that now.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 11, 2007, 06:52:57 PM
So I guess that means worldwide until the end of December the Wii sold just over 3 million. It didn't reach the target, but that's certainly nothing to sneeze at.

Quote

NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - NINTENDO 427.5 K
Wow. I wonder what worldwide sales are now..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on January 12, 2007, 02:27:18 AM
Woohoo @ the all-Nintendo top 15.

By all accounts I've heard, DS hit a supply wall in North America, which is kind of silly (hasn't Nintendo learned it's lesson yet?) but good news in the sense that it's hot.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 12, 2007, 03:32:24 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
So I guess that means worldwide until the end of December the Wii sold just over 3 million. It didn't reach the target, but that's certainly nothing to sneeze at.

Quote

NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - NINTENDO 427.5 K
Wow. I wonder what worldwide sales are now..


Well, 2 million in North America and just under 4 million in Japan. So add whatever Europe bought to 6 million.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2007, 05:54:19 AM
M-Create 01/01 - 01/07

Software:
31.) Naruto Fighter (NDS, Takara Tomy)
32.) Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
33.) Rockman Pegasus (NDS, Capcom)
34.) Monster Hunter Portable (The Best) (PSP, Capcom)
35.) Gundam Seed Destiny (PS2, Bandai Namco)
36.) Kanji Brain Test 2,000,000 (NDS, IE institute)
37.) Power Pro Kun Pocket 9 (NDS, Konami)
38.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix)
39.) Electric Brain Repetition (NDS, Shogakukan Inc.)
40.) Mario Basket 3-on-3 (NDS, Nintendo)
41.) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (PSP, Konami)
42.) Rockman Leo (NDS, Capcom)
43.) Board of Education (NDS, Bandai Namco)
44.) Rockman Dragon (NDS, Capcom)
45.) Big Brain Academy (NDS, Nintendo)
46.) Revolution (NDS, Konami)
47.) Resistance (PS3, SCE)
48.) Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (NDS, Square Enix)
49.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
50.) Live Power Pro Baseball 13 (PS2, Konami)

Hardware:
1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 344,878 | 176,219 | 344,878 | 7,768,202
2.) Nintendo Wii - 195,331 | 96,332 | 195,331 | 1,114,974
3.) PlayStation Portable - 118,186 | 68,675 | 118,186 | 4,650,315
4.) PlayStation 3 - 69,944 | 71,727 | 69,944 | 527,502
5.) PlayStation 2 - 52,037 | 38,169 | 52,037 | 20,206,896
6.) Xbox 360 - 18,235 | 16,909 | 18,235 | 282,937
7.) Game Boy micro - 3,311 | 2,082 | 3,311 | 563,241
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 2,364 | 1,743 | 2,364 | 5,917,404
9.) GameCube - 1,258 | 847 | 1,258 | 4,170,726
10.) Nintendo DS - 75 | 102 | 75 | 6,582,430
11.) Game Boy Advance - 57 | 51 | 57 | 8,823,166
 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Athrun Zala on January 12, 2007, 09:10:20 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
So I guess that means worldwide until the end of December the Wii sold just over 3 million. It didn't reach the target, but that's certainly nothing to sneeze at.
I guess it'll be higher than that, as we are lacking updated EU numbers, as well as the rest of the Americas' ....

Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - NINTENDO 427.5 K
Wow. I wonder what worldwide sales are now..
like 8M+ copies apparently....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2007, 05:53:34 PM
This is courtesy of cvxfreak of neogaf:

Quote

Statistics from the Famitus Top 100 of 2006

Top 3 PS3
1. Ridge Racer 7 - 98,616
2. Gundam: Target in Sight - 96,714
3. Resistance - 72,694

Top 3 360
1. Blue Dragon - 119,396
2. Dead or Alive 4 - 103,307
3. Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 - 57,060

Top 5 placement manufactuers:

1. Nintendo - 30/100
2. Bandai Namco Games - 15/100
3. Square Enix - 13/100
4. Konami - 8/100
5. Capcom - 7/100
5. Sega - 7/100

Top 5 by units:

1. Nintendo - 24,216,590
2. Square Enix - 6,847,891
3. Pokemon - 5,584,691
4. Bandai Namco Games - 4,228,898
5. Konami - 2,495,964

2004 total sales: 56,090,000 across 1019 games
2005 total sales: 55,430,000 across 1077 games
2006 total sales: 77,160,000 across 1240 games

Major dates:

3.02 - DSL crystal white launched
3.11 - DSL ice blue and enamel navy launched
3.16 - Final Fantasy XII launched
5.27 - New Super Mario Brothers launched
7.20 - DSL noble pink launched
9.02 - DSL jet black launched
9.28 - Pokemon Diamond + Pearl launched
11.11 - PlayStation 3 launched
12.2 - Wii launched
12.7 - Blue Dragon launched


Notice how Wii was not included on the Top 3 comparison, Wii Sports alone outsold all of the PS3 or 360 offerings. If you combine sales of Wii Sports and Wii Play, you would probably outsell PS3 and X360 Top 3 put together.

Also notice how the X360 Top 3 outsold the PS3 Top 3
Top 3
PS3 = 268,024
360 = 279,763

Now is you take all the bolded Nintendo stats from the statistics...
1. Nintendo - 30/100
1. Nintendo - 24,216,590

and combine then with total software sales of 2006
2006 total sales: 77,160,000 across 1240 games

...it will make you say WOW!!!

Nintendo had almost 1/3 of the software sold in Japan in 2006!!??
Am I reading that wrong? That is just insane.
Combine those #'s with the ones from Pokemon Co.
3. Pokemon - 5,584,691

and you have more than 1/3 of all software sales, something closer to 40%.
I have got to be reading these statistics wrong.

and those closest to Nintendo seems to benefit the most
Top 5 placement manufactuers:
2. Bandai Namco Games - 15/100
3. Square Enix - 13/100

Top 5 by units:
2. Square Enix - 6,847,891
3. Pokemon - 5,584,691
4. Bandai Namco Games - 4,228,898

Japan is now officially Nintendoland once again.  

edit some charts for the visual types:
Software Sales 2006(Famitsu) - Top 10

Software Sales 2006(Famitsu) - Publishers

Software Sales 2006(Famitsu) - All Platforms

Software Sales 2006(Famitsu) - Nintendo vs The Rest
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 17, 2007, 10:23:10 AM
Those 5 Pokemon games, are they 4 for the DS (Diamond/Pearl, Ranger, and that other one, like Trozei or something) and the Battle game for the Wii?  Shows you how little those other games sold when Diamond/Pearl got over 4 million units and they only had a few over 5 million.

Still, Nintendo rocks Japan.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2007, 05:44:01 PM
Just to keep the sales thread updates from being too similar

Media Create Pac-Man Chart Jan 8th - 14th
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 17, 2007, 06:10:27 PM
Zelda continues to hold rock solid. Three or four more weeks at the most and it'll be past 400,000.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on January 18, 2007, 01:30:25 AM
Well since no one has posted the Media Crate numbers for 1/8 to 1/14 here they are.

1. Wii - Wii Sports - Nintendo - 61,399 (794,118) - 7th week
2. NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - Square Enix - 55,180 (916,000) - 3rd week
3. Wii - Wii Play - Nintendo - 54,578 (719,089) - 7th week
4. NDS - General Knowledge Training DS - Nintendo - 35,819 (1,098,912) - 12th week
5. NDS - New Super Mario Bros. - Nintendo - 34,628 (4,003,134) - 34th week
6. NDS - Brain Training 2 - Nintendo - 32,865 (3,838,652) - 56th week
7. NDS - Animal Crossing: Wild World - Nintendo - 32,864 (3,876,696) - 61st week
8. PSP - Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - Konami - 28,152 (306,359) - 4th week
9. NDS - Pokemon Diamond - Nintendo - 22,982 (2,502,801) - 15th week
10. NDS - Mario Kart DS - Nintendo - 22,640 (1,997,233) - 58th week
11. NDS - Kirby Squeak Squad - Nintendo - 11th week
12. NDS - English Training - Nintendo
13. NDS - Pokemon Pearl - Nintendo - 15th week
14. PS2 - Yakuza - The Best - Sega
15. NDS - DS Menu Collection - Nintendo
16. NDS - Jump Ultimate Stars - Nintendo - 8th week
17. NDS - Kanji Test - Rocket Company
18, Wii - Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Nintendo - 7th week
19. NDS - Brain Training - Nintendo - 88th week
20. Wii - Wario Ware: Smooth Moves - Nintendo - 7th week
21. PS2 - Yakuza 2 - Sega - 6th week
22. PSP - Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology - Namco Bandai
23. PSP - Monster Hunter Freedom - Capcom
24. NDS - Love and Berry - Sega - 8th week
25. NDS - 200-Mannin no KanKen: Tokoton Kanji Nou - IE Institute
26. PS2 - Seiken Densetsu 4 (Dawn of Mana - Square Enix
27. PS2 - The Battle of Yu Yu Hakusho - Banpresto
28. Wii - Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 - Bandai Namco
29. Wii - Pokemon Battle Revolution - Nintendo
30. NDS - Cooking Navi - Nintendo

Nintendo's utter domination of Japan continues.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on January 18, 2007, 03:43:24 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Media Create Pac-Man Chart Jan 8th - 14th


Quote

Originally posted by: Darc Requiem
Well since no one has posted the Media Crate numbers for 1/8 to 1/14 here they are.


Ahem...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2007, 05:02:44 AM
THE PAC-MAN IS FURIOUS
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on January 18, 2007, 07:06:29 AM
Damn...how'd I miss the Pac-Man chart. Sorry guys.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 18, 2007, 05:48:38 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Darc Requiem
1/8 to 1/14

1. Wii - Wii Sports - Nintendo - 61,399 (794,118) - 7th week
2. NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - Square Enix - 55,180 (916,000) - 3rd week
3. Wii - Wii Play - Nintendo - 54,578 (719,089) - 7th week
4. NDS - General Knowledge Training DS - Nintendo - 35,819 (1,098,912) - 12th week
5. NDS - New Super Mario Bros. - Nintendo - 34,628 (4,003,134) - 34th week
6. NDS - Brain Training 2 - Nintendo - 32,865 (3,838,652) - 56th week
7. NDS - Animal Crossing: Wild World - Nintendo - 32,864 (3,876,696) - 61st week
8. PSP - Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - Konami - 28,152 (306,359) - 4th week
9. NDS - Pokemon Diamond - Nintendo - 22,982 (2,502,801) - 15th week
10. NDS - Mario Kart DS - Nintendo - 22,640 (1,997,233) - 58th week
11. NDS - Kirby Squeak Squad - Nintendo - 11th week
12. NDS - English Training - Nintendo
13. NDS - Pokemon Pearl - Nintendo - 15th week
14. PS2 - Yakuza - The Best - Sega
15. NDS - DS Menu Collection - Nintendo
16. NDS - Jump Ultimate Stars - Nintendo - 8th week
17. NDS - Kanji Test - Rocket Company
18, Wii - Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Nintendo - 7th week
19. NDS - Brain Training - Nintendo - 88th week
20. Wii - Wario Ware: Smooth Moves - Nintendo - 7th week
21. PS2 - Yakuza 2 - Sega - 6th week
22. PSP - Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology - Namco Bandai
23. PSP - Monster Hunter Freedom - Capcom
24. NDS - Love and Berry - Sega - 8th week
25. NDS - 200-Mannin no KanKen: Tokoton Kanji Nou - IE Institute
26. PS2 - Seiken Densetsu 4 (Dawn of Mana - Square Enix
27. PS2 - The Battle of Yu Yu Hakusho - Banpresto
28. Wii - Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 - Bandai Namco
29. Wii - Pokemon Battle Revolution - Nintendo
30. NDS - Cooking Navi - Nintendo

31.) Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
32.) Momotarou Electric Railway 16 (PS2, Hudson)
33.) GT Pro Series (Wii, MTO) - NEW ENTRY
34.) Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 (NDS, Bandai Namco)
35.) Electric Brain Repetition (NDS, Shogakukan Inc.)
36.) Fushigi no Shiren (NDS, Sega) 7,400 | 147,000
37.) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (PSP, Konami)
38.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 7,200 | 964,000
39.) Gundam Seed (PS2, Bandai Namco)
40.) Resistance (PS3, SCE) - 6,300 | 100,000
41.) Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA, Square Enix)
42.) Stock Trader Kabutore! (NDS, Konami)
43.) Power Pro Kun Pocket 9 (NDS, Konami) - 5,800 | 100,000
44.) Rockman Pegasus (NDS, Capcom)
45.) Live Power Pro Baseball 13 (PS2, Konami)
46.) Sense of Pitch Training (NDS, Success) - NEW ENTRY
47.) Naruto Fighter (NDS, Takara Tomy)
48.) Gundam (PS3, Bandai Namco) - 5,200 | 116,000
49.) Kirarin Revolution (NDS, Konami)
50.) Mario Basket 3-on-3 (NDS, Nintendo)

55.) Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (NDS, Square Enix) - 4,700 | 82,000
67.) Bleach (Wii, Sega) - 3,700 | 46,000
72.) Elebits (Wii, Konami) - 3,500 | 35,000

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | 2007 | LTD

1.) Nintendo Wii - 93,708 | 195,331 | 289,039 | 1,208,682
2.) Nintendo DS Lite - 89,287 | 344,878 | 434,165 | 7,857,489
3.) PlayStation Portable - 48,804 | 118,186 | 166,990 | 4,699,119
4.) PlayStation 3 - 25,531 | 69,944 | 95,475 | 553,033
5.) PlayStation 2 - 22,663 | 52,037 | 74,700 | 20,229,559
6.) Xbox 360 - 9,035 | 18,235| 27,270 | 291,972
7.) Game Boy micro - 1,959 | 3,311 | 5,270 | 565,200
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,547 | 2,364 | 3,911 | 5,918,951
9.) GameCube - 611 | 1,258 | 1,869 | 4,171,337
10.) Game Boy Advance - 79 | 57 | 136 | 8,823,245
11.) Nintendo DS - 41 | 75 | 116 | 6,582,471

DS + DSL combined LTD = 14,439,960
GBA + GBASP + GBM combined LTD = 15,307,396

 
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on January 18, 2007, 06:04:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

DS + DSL combined LTD = 14,439,960
GBA + GBASP + GBM combined LTD = 15,307,396


Just wow.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 19, 2007, 04:58:50 AM
The 3rd pillar nonsense was a COMPLETE FAILURE
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 19, 2007, 05:49:08 AM
Yeah, 3rd pillar = GREAT BIG PHALLIC LIE.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 19, 2007, 07:50:37 AM
GBA + GBASP + GBM combined LTD = 15,307,396

That's still pretty darn good...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 19, 2007, 09:28:32 PM
Wow GBA was a massive flop.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 19, 2007, 09:31:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
The 3rd pillar nonsense was a COMPLETE FAILURE
Yea, GBA hardware doesn't sell anymore in Japan. But geez, 850,000 GBAs sold in the US this december, not counting november or the rest of the year. So the GBA pillar is still quite viable.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2007, 01:18:25 PM
I'm guessing as far as handhelds go, the U.S. is a year behind japan in the sales trend. At Christmas sales season this year the U.S. will look similar to how Japan did last year. Our DS sell-out just started, do you think it will last a whole year? Probably not, but I think it will still sell extremely well this year in the U.S. and the GBA will become a slowly dying handheld as people realize that the DS can play GBA games too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 20, 2007, 06:25:28 PM
Remember, the GBASP is still more demanded than the Micro (going by retail prices, SPs cost 90 while Micros are around 50) so I'd expect people want the GBA because it plays GB and GBC as well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on January 21, 2007, 12:47:37 AM
From someone who sells the hardware on a regular basis, I really don't think most parents consider the SP's ability to play GB/GBC games a plus when picking one over the other...  Pretty much the size of the micro is what makes parents think they're getting a better deal with the more expensive SP (which is only about $80 vs. $50 for the GBm)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on January 21, 2007, 12:41:34 PM
Well, from the looks of it, hardly anyone is selling the micro anymore.  It used to cost more than the SP.  So any difference in price proves just how bad the micro has bombed.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 21, 2007, 12:58:02 PM
I still want a GBM, it's just so sexy....the thing is, I don't really play GBA games any more, only DS stuff ;___;
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 21, 2007, 01:04:46 PM
The GBM was always overpriced. It should have been priced as an inpulse buy at $39.99 and now later reduced to $34.99/$29.99. At $50/60/70 it was incredibly overpriced for what it was. I'm glad it bombed. Even if it does reach that magical price point though, I feel its already too late for the micro unless they have some sort of new advertising campaign for it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 21, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
I still want one...or at least I want someone to give me their serial number (as well as a DSPhat serial number) to complete my collection of all registerable Nintendo hardware.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 21, 2007, 06:47:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
The GBM was always overpriced. It should have been priced as an inpulse buy at $39.99 and now later reduced to $34.99/$29.99. At $50/60/70 it was incredibly overpriced for what it was. I'm glad it bombed. Even if it does reach that magical price point though, I feel its already too late for the micro unless they have some sort of new advertising campaign for it.
Eh... Yea, I don't get the original $20 price increase over the SP. I don't agree with the 50/40/30/whatever price though. It would have been just fine at $80 as a final (and optional) reconfiguration of the GBA hardware. The SP doesn't *need* to be smaller and I can appreciate why some people would lash out at it, but I really enjoy its even more compact size and much higher quality screen.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on January 22, 2007, 03:07:51 AM
If the GBMicro would have came out the same time as the SP when there was no DS I would have picked one up in a heartbeat because I like the feel better then the SP.  (Though if they would release an original style one with a DSLite quality screen I buy that right now.  I like the Ergonomics of the original GBA better then any other Handheld console made.  That I've played. (Whole GBA Line, Game Gear, Nomad, DS line. Game Watches.))
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Gamebasher on January 22, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
I LOVED the original GBA, and to this day it stands to me as the best designed handheld console ever. Period. Smooth to hold, -play and -look at. The DS Lite is almost as good, but only also almost. Pitty they didn´t include a backlight in the GBA when it first came out. The GBA SP, withthat backlight included, is strange to hold, and play as it nescessitates squeezing the elbows together to properly play and hold. Very uncomfortable.

In any event, they just confirmed that DS has sold 10.000.000 units in Europe alone, and that is sold units, not shipped units! I am thankfull that Nintendo is enjoying such a succes since it bodes well for the future of DS game releases!  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2007, 05:46:06 PM
Media Create Jan. 15th - 21st

Software:


and incase anyone was wondering, DQM:J was supposedly sold out as of last weeks chart and the new shipment shouldn't show up until next weeks chart.

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | 2007 | LTD

1.) Nintendo DS Lite – 127,647 | 89,287 | 561,812 | 7,985,136
2.) Nintendo Wii – 86,395 | 93,708 | 375,434 | 1,295,077
3.) PlayStation Portable -37,032 | 48,804 | 204,022 | 4,736,151
4.) PlayStation 3 – 21,105 | 25,531 | 116,580 | 574,138
5.) PlayStation 2 – 20,169 | 22,663 | 94,869 | 20,249,728
6.) Xbox 360 – 7,041 | 9,035 | 34,311 | 299,013
7.) Game Boy micro – 1,864 | 1,959 | 7,134 | 567,064
8.) Game Boy Advance SP -1,498 | 1,547 | 5,409 | 5,920,449
9.) GameCube - 554 | 611| 2,423 | 4,171,891
10.) Nintendo DS - 123 | 41 | 239 | 6,582,594
11.) Game Boy Advance - 94 | 79 | 230 | 8,823,339
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 24, 2007, 10:04:10 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Gamebasher
The GBA SP, withthat backlight included, is strange to hold, and play as it nescessitates squeezing the elbows together to properly play and hold.


The SP could be played one handed, especially with Pokemon. <3 SP clamshell!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 24, 2007, 11:44:21 PM
"Pokemon" isn't what I'm thinking when I'm thinking "playing one handed".
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on January 25, 2007, 06:56:27 AM
Okay KDR, your last post was an obvious case of TMI. I would tell you keep your  hands to yourself but thats where the problem began.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 25, 2007, 07:31:05 AM
pok-e-man

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 25, 2007, 08:31:19 AM
I think it's more worrying to play Pokemon one-handed than to prefer other games for that.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2007, 04:54:48 AM
Famitsu Jan. 22nd - 28th

Software:
1. PS2 Grand Theft Auto San Andreas - 200k
2. NDS Dragon Quest Monsters - 100k
3. NDS Sangokushi Taisen - 80k
4. NDS Picross DS - 70k
5. Wii Wii Sports - LTD >900k
6. NDS Hotel Dusk - 60k
7. NDS Wario Master of Disguise
8. NDS Pokémon Diamond/Pearl
9. PS2 Winter Pachinko 10
10. Wii Wii Play

360 Idolmaster ~25k
Enchanted Arms 15k

Hardware:
DSL ~200k
Wii ~80k
PS3 ~20k
360 ~7k


WOW @ GTA:SA, I didn't expect it to do that good in Japan,  pretty good start for Hotel Dusk
& DQM:J is back. I told you it was just an undershipment of games, S-E says "Don't be mad at us, but we could only get another 100k and won't have more for 2 more weeks "  

Apparently Picross & Hotel Dusk are both pretty much sold out too as Nintendo is having issues producing enough physical DS games to actually fill publisher and consumer demands. I guess its just not a DS & Wii hardware thing anymore.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 31, 2007, 06:10:43 AM
I want Picross so bad
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on January 31, 2007, 07:54:42 AM
I'm hoarding all my money for the Wii right now, but I think I may be able to find a leak in the system to buy some of DS games, we're finally (in IMHO) starting to see High Quality DS games, there have been quality titles for a while, but now they're high. like me... lol anyway, i'm looking forward to Hotel Dusk, Pokemon, Star Fox, and Picross to name a few.

DS is still kicking everyones as$, I wonder if the Wii can overtake it?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on January 31, 2007, 09:35:35 AM
What? Star Fox has been out for months...well, I guess you could still be looking forward to it, since you don't own it.

Yay DQM!
Wow GTA!
LOL Wii Wii Sports!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on January 31, 2007, 10:23:10 AM
That is amazing.  GTA:VC only sold 25,000 its initial week in Japan.  I guess this series has started taking off even in Japan now.  

Hold on, if Wii Sports sold between 60-70k copies this last week and there were only 80k systems sold, does that mean there is a near 90% attach rate for the game at the moment?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 31, 2007, 10:26:16 AM
Quote

I'm hoarding all my money for the Wii right now, but I think I may be able to find a leak in the system to buy some of DS games, we're finally (in IMHO) starting to see High Quality DS games, there have been quality titles for a while, but now they're high. like me... lol anyway, i'm looking forward to Hotel Dusk, Pokemon, Star Fox, and Picross to name a few
Don't get me wrong, those are great games, but are they really "high" quality games when you compare them to the best DS ones?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 31, 2007, 11:23:06 AM
You DARE besmirch the honor of CING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Fed
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on January 31, 2007, 12:12:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: LouieturkeyHold on, if Wii Sports sold between 60-70k copies this last week and there were only 80k systems sold, does that mean there is a near 90% attach rate for the game at the moment?
I don't know about 90%, but it is certainly high perhaps 70-80%+. Both Wii Sports and Wii Play are nearly million sellers and over a million Wii have been sold.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on January 31, 2007, 02:09:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

I'm hoarding all my money for the Wii right now, but I think I may be able to find a leak in the system to buy some of DS games, we're finally (in IMHO) starting to see High Quality DS games, there have been quality titles for a while, but now they're high. like me... lol anyway, i'm looking forward to Hotel Dusk, Pokemon, Star Fox, and Picross to name a few
Don't get me wrong, those are great games, but are they really "high" quality games when you compare them to the best DS ones?


Like what other games? My favorite DS games so far have been, Mario Kart, Metroid Prime: Hunters, Trauma Center, Age of Empires, and New Super Mario Bros. All good games but not what I would consider High Quality, in some respect yes, (like Wifi play in Mario Kart, and Metroid) but not completely.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on January 31, 2007, 06:20:05 PM
Wow, surprised to see GTA up there, and good to see DQM:J back and selling strong.

Taken from GAF:

Japanese software sales for January 22 - January 28:

#. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

1. PS2 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Capcom - 227,261 - NEW
2. NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - Square Enix - 103,706 (1,026,700) - 5th week
03. NDS - Sangokushi Taisen DS - Sega - 77,229 - NEW
04. NDS - Picross DS - Nintendo - 71,794 - NEW
05. NDS - Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - 59,379 - NEW
06. Wii - Wii Sports - Nintendo - 58,886 (910,422) - 9th week
07. NDS - Wario: Master of Disguise - Nintendo - 47,350 (138,599) - 2nd week
08. Wii - Wii Play - Nintendo - 43,612 (808,425) - 9th week
09. PS2 - Pachinko Winter Sonata - Hackberry - 41,411 - NEW
10. NDS - Brain Training 2 - Nintendo - 34,028 (3,902,307) - 58th week

Total top 10 sales: 764,656 (up 193,544 from last week)
Last week's sales: 571,112
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on January 31, 2007, 06:31:40 PM
Star Fox has been out for months...

Or days if you live in Europe.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2007, 04:42:29 AM
Unofficial MC Hardware:
DSL ~190k
Wii ~80k
PSP ~37k
PS3 ~21k
PS2 ~19k
360 ~8k

It looks very close to the Famitsu #'s posted above.
and seeing weekly PS3 #'s staying so low, I'm now gonna guess that Europe is gonna have a HUGE launch now that Sony doesn't have to worry about shipping PS3's to Japan,  and depending on NPD has to say in about a week, possibly not having to ship as many to the U.S. either. Lucky Europe...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2007, 05:30:50 AM
Yes but what will Sony do with all the 20GB ones? They're only selling the 600€ model here.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 01, 2007, 05:47:37 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Star Fox has been out for months...

Or days if you live in Europe.


Ha ha ha, suckers.  It never occurred to me that MaryJane might be European.  Whoops!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2007, 05:52:24 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Yes but what will Sony do with all the 20GB ones? They're only selling the 600€ model here.
With all the free'd up manufacturing machines that will be resourced to produce specifically for Europe, they will just stop producing 20GB and make more 60GB, nobody buys 20GB by choice anyway.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 01, 2007, 07:44:53 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

and seeing weekly PS3 #'s staying so low, I'm now gonna guess that Europe is gonna have a HUGE launch now that Sony doesn't have to worry about shipping PS3's to Japan,  and depending on NPD has to say in about a week, possibly not having to ship as many to the U.S. either. Lucky Europe...
Hm... but will Europe care about the PS3 either? I mean, not only are they stuck with buying only the 60gb model only, but they have to pay a premium over and beyond the US and Japanese price. I'm guessing they are getting the same half-baked games too.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on February 01, 2007, 08:16:40 AM
I currently reside in Clifton, New Jersey.

I haven't bought Star Fox yet, because I was kind of on the fence about it, then I played it, now I want it, and it's all just a matter of time before I have it, like this Saturday.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2007, 05:27:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Hm... but will Europe care about the PS3 either? I mean, not only are they stuck with buying only the 60gb model only, but they have to pay a premium over and beyond the US and Japanese price. I'm guessing they are getting the same half-baked games too.
I'm pretty sure they won't and thats gonna make Sony look very bad if they don't. If they don't sell out and PS3's just sit available at every store possible, I can see 3rd parties start rethinking their exclusive/port strategies.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2007, 05:30:31 PM
Media Create Jan 22nd - 28th

Software:
01. PS2 (Capcom) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 227261 / 227261
02. DS (Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker - 103706 / 1026700
03. DS (Sega) Sangokushi Taisen DS - 77229 / 77229
04. DS (Nintendo) Picross DS - 71794 / 71794
05. DS (Nintendo) Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - 59379 / 59379
06. Wii (Nintendo) Wii Sports - 58886 / 910422
07. DS (Nintendo) Wario: The Seven - 47350 / 138599
08. Wii (Nintendo) Wii Play - 43612 / 808425
09. PS2 (Hackberry) Pachinko Winter Sonata - 41411 / 41411
10. DS (Nintendo) More Brain Age - 34028 / 3902307
~
11. DS (Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers
12. DS (Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training
13. DS (Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World
14. PS2 (Konami) Prince of Tennis: Doki-Doki Survival
15. 360 (Bandai-Namco) The Idolm@ster
16. DS (Nintendo) Mario Kart DS
17. DS (Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond
18. DS (Nintendo) English Training
19. DS (Nintendo) Brain Training
20. PS2 (Sega) Shining Force EXA
21. DS (Spike) IQ Supply
22. DS (Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl
23. DS (IE Institute) Kanji Brain Test 2M
24. PSP (Konami) Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops
25. PS2 (Bandai-Namco) .hack//G.U. Vol. 3
26. DS (Nintendo) 1000 Recipes
27. Wii (Nintendo) Wario Ware Smooth Moves
28. PSP (Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable
29. PS3 (From Software) Enchanted Arms
30. PS2 (Flight-Plan) Dragon Shadow Spell
~
31. PS2 (Marvelous) Happiness! Deluxe (1st ed.)
32. DS (Rocket Co.) Kanji Test
33. DS (Sega) Puyo-Puyo!
34. Wii (Nintendo) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
35. DS (Sega) Love & Berry
36. DS (Bandai-Namco) Heisei Kyouiku Inkai DS
37. DS (Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad
38. PS2 (Sega) Yakuza
39. DS (MTO) Tea Dog's Room DS 2
40. Wii (Nintendo) Excite Truck
41. DS (Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars
42. PSP (Ertain) Lost Regnum
43. DS (Shougaku-kan) DS Yama Method Math Drills
44. DS (Atlus) Etrian Odyssey
45. DS (Capcom) Biohazard: Deadly Silence
46. DS (Nintendo) Tetris DS
47. DS (Nintendo) Cooking Navi
48. PS2 (Prototype) Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life CS Ed.
49. PS2 (Aquaplus) Routes PE
50. PS2 (THQ) WWE 2007 SmackDown vs. Raw

TOP50
NDS:29
PS2:11
Wii:5
PSP:3
XBOX360:1
PS3:1

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2007 Sales | Lifetime Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 194,526 | 127,647 | 756,338 | 8,179,662
2.) Wii - 83,754 | 86,395 | 459,188 | 1,378,831
3.) PlayStation Portable - 35,700 | 37,032 | 239,722 | 4,771,851
4.) PlayStation 2 - 20,995 | 20,169 | 115,864 | 20,270,723
5.) PlayStation 3 - 19,996 | 21,105 | 136,576 | 594,134
6.) Xbox 360 - 7,365 | 7,041 | 41,676 | 306,378
7.) Game Boy micro - 1,177 | 1,864 | 8,311 | 568,241
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,023 | 1,498 | 6,432 | 5,921,472
9.) GameCube - 347 | 554 | 2,770 | 4,172,238
10.) Nintendo DS - 82 | 123 | 321 | 6,582,676
11.) Game Boy Advance - 34 | 94 | 264 | 8,823,373

DSL + DS LTD = 14,762,338
GBA + GBASP + GBM LTD = 15,313,086

Looks like the DS will surpass the GBA LTD before February is over. 2-3 weeks and its onto overtaking the PS2 which I believe sits around 20/21 million in Japan. Its gonna be interesting considering it took PS2 7 years to reach that # and DS is gonna do it in 3(4 at the absolute latest).  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2007, 07:29:08 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Yes but what will Sony do with all the 20GB ones? They're only selling the 600€ model here.
With all the free'd up manufacturing machines that will be resourced to produce specifically for Europe, they will just stop producing 20GB and make more 60GB, nobody buys 20GB by choice anyway.


Are you sure? The 60GB has only trivial improvements over the 20GB and I think most people would rather save those 100€. The 20GB has a price that's more competitive with the 360.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2007, 08:22:28 PM
Lets rewind back to when there was a demand for PS3and there were 20GB & 60GB systems for sale in a store, the 60GB will sell out first and then when people realized they couldn't get a 60GB they would either rush of to the next store or they would let out a "sigh" and then accept the 20GB as a default. The same thing happend with the Xbox 360, people want the most for their money and to feel thay would get more for only a little but more $$$ sometimes sounds like the better deal.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2007, 01:09:18 AM
Goes to show that people are stupid... You can even buy stuff at retail to prop a 20GB PS3 up to and beyond a 60GB PS3 for the same money.

Besides, do we really need two different sales threads that show the same numbers anyway?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 02, 2007, 01:55:04 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Hm... but will Europe care about the PS3 either? I mean, not only are they stuck with buying only the 60gb model only, but they have to pay a premium over and beyond the US and Japanese price. I'm guessing they are getting the same half-baked games too.
I'm pretty sure they won't and thats gonna make Sony look very bad if they don't. If they don't sell out and PS3's just sit available at every store possible, I can see 3rd parties start rethinking their exclusive/port strategies.


But not Konami and Capcom, they are so stupidly stubborn that they will not rethink their plans.  Just look at Konami releasing their Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles on PSP.  They should have released it on a more viable system, PS2 or Wii (maybe DS just because.)

Capcom has stated that Devil May Cry 4 is exclusive for PS3, they will never make their money back with that game plan.

Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Lets rewind back to when there was a demand for PS3and there were 20GB & 60GB systems for sale in a store, the 60GB will sell out first and then when people realized they couldn't get a 60GB they would either rush of to the next store or they would let out a "sigh" and then accept the 20GB as a default. The same thing happend with the Xbox 360, people want the most for their money and to feel thay would get more for only a little but more $$$ sometimes sounds like the better deal.


but the problem is that the 20g PS3 can't be upgraded to the same specs as the 60g PS3.  Why Sony did this is just another example of their stupid thinking.  MS at least allows the consumer to upgrade their core system to that of the premium system.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2007, 03:13:18 AM
Capcom has stated that Devil May Cry 4 is exclusive for PS3, they will never make their money back with that game plan.

They also stated the Capcom Five were exclusive to the GC.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 02, 2007, 03:40:41 AM
Yeah, what he said.  And that Dracula X announcement reeks of Twin Snakes to me.  It's token support, and probably the result of a money hat.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2007, 03:45:02 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Besides, do we really need two different sales threads that show the same numbers anyway?
We have one to focus discussion on the consoles and the other to discuss the handhe... the DS.

The DS sales thread is the long standing one, but more people check out the Wii one, so I keep them both updated. The last couple of weeks I tried to make them atleast look different, but this week I have failed.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on February 02, 2007, 08:45:15 AM
I always check this sales thread. I guess it's tradition. Although lately, I have been stopping by the Wii sales thread since there seems to be more discussion for it. In some ways, this thread has grown archaic. It was orginally started to watch the battle between the DS and PSP. But that battle has pretty much ended a year ago. Except for North America, which was the last holdout but even it has crumbled to the might of the DS in the last 6 months.

I guess the purpose of this thread now is to watch the DS beat the Game Boy Advance numbers and surpass the PS2. Once it's done that, I guess we could probably lay it to rest.


Is this the biggest thread on the NWR forums though? I think so but am not sure. But it should be preserved for that fact also.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 02, 2007, 10:23:10 AM
First post in this thread:

" Well, seeing this thread has been up for quite a while now, lets discuss DS sales over in Japan.

And lets hope it will finally catch up to PSP in sales... considering it's been outselling DS for over 2 months now."


Hahahahaha.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on February 03, 2007, 03:41:58 PM
How does that change what I said? It was still started to watch the battle between DS and PSP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on February 03, 2007, 04:16:39 PM
The problem with this thread is not enough American sales charts since those only come monthly. The PSP is doing very strong in America with an installed base at least as big as the X360's here.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on February 03, 2007, 05:56:20 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Khushrenada
How does that change what I said? It was still started to watch the battle between DS and PSP.


I was laughing at how much things changed since this thread started. Not at you.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Darc Requiem on February 05, 2007, 02:36:38 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
The problem with this thread is not enough American sales charts since those only come monthly. The PSP is doing very strong in America with an installed base at least as big as the X360's here.


Problem is the PSP software sales blow. 360 games are constantly amongst the best sellers on the US sales charts. That is very impressive, especially considering how the PS2 has a MUCH larger userbase.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 05, 2007, 08:48:13 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Darc Requiem
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
The problem with this thread is not enough American sales charts since those only come monthly. The PSP is doing very strong in America with an installed base at least as big as the X360's here.


Problem is the PSP software sales blow. 360 games are constantly amongst the best sellers on the US sales charts. That is very impressive, especially considering how the PS2 has a MUCH larger userbase.


This is true, I'm pretty sure the 360 has one of the highest attach rates for consoles in general. Then again, factor in its total WW sales and i'm not sure it breaks 10 mil. Either way, the 360 is selling pretty well, i wish i had comparative stats between the 360 and the original PHAT box.

Also, everyone says the psp software sales blow, but the hardware is pushing fairly well in the US, that means the software sales can't suck as bad as we think.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 06, 2007, 07:51:51 AM
Amodaus: You can compare various consoles and their sales at vgcharts.org.  It may not be 100% accurate (always have to throw in that disclaimer) but it's pretty decent.  It shows that Xbox 360 is outselling Xbox by a small margin in North America, and it's selling a bit worse than the original in Japan.  I'm not sure if they have European numbers...if they do I have no idea where they're coming from.

PSP  game sales...I figure they're not as bad as some people make them out to be either, but at the same time, there's no denying that GTA is pretty much the only big "hit" the system has.  Nothing else ever seems to hit the charts.  I think a lot of casual gamers are buying PSP and as such, they buy one or two games and don't feel the need for much else.  They're buying it for its multimedia functions and the fashion.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2007, 05:18:30 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Jan 29-Feb 4:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...66768,0,0.html

1. J-League Soccer 5 (PS2) ~100k*
2. Harvest Moon (NDS) ~70k*
3. GTA San Andreas (PS2) ~60k*
4. Dragon Quest Monsters (NDS)
5. Wii Sports (Wii)
6. Pokémon Diamond/Pearl (NDS)
7. Wii Play (Wii)
8. More Brain Training (NDS)
9. NSMB (NDS)
10. Common Sense Training (NDS)

And something more *from Sinobi: Translated @ NeoGAF

1) Brain Training 2 ~30k this week; it becomes the third DS game to join 4 million team, Animal Crossing will be the next (LTD ~3.85m)

2) Shortage of Hotel Dust, Picross DS and Sangoshi Taisen continues. New Harvest Moon DS joins the shortage camp. All should sell over 100k when stock refills.

3) Seiya sold ~20k in its first week. Large drop-off from the last game.
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 07, 2007, 06:18:44 AM
What's with all the shortages?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2007, 07:37:51 AM
I think Nintendo is having a plastic shortage and more production orders than they are currently equipped to handle. No one could have anticipated the massive success that is the DS and its software.
Nintendo is also just a little slow to react to it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on February 07, 2007, 09:51:05 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I think Nintendo is having a plastic shortage and more production orders than they are currently equipped to handle. No one could have anticipated the massive success that is the DS and its software.
Nintendo is also just a little slow to react to it.


Like they were with hardware shortages...which incidentally, they still have not upped the production enough to meet demand.  I was amazed to see 8 DSL's sitting on a shelf at Super Walmart yesterday.  I only noticed because someone was buying one with NSMB.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on February 07, 2007, 02:30:01 PM
PLASTIC shortages... wow.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Hocotate on February 07, 2007, 03:44:27 PM
Japanese software sales for January 29 - February 4:

#. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

01. PS2 - J-League Pro Soccer 5 - Sega - 107,073 - NEW
02. NDS - Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On - 79,408 - NEW
03. NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - Square Enix - 57,132 (1,083,832) - 6th week
04. PS2 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Capcom - 49,333 (276,594) - 2nd week
05. Wii - Wii Sports - Nintendo - 48,236 (958,658) - 10th week
06. Wii - Wii Play - Nintendo - 34,918 (843,343) - 10th week
07. NDS - Brain Training 2 - Nintendo - 28,605 (3,930,911) - 59th week
08. NDS - New Super Mario Bros. - Nintendo - 27,327 (4,089,052) - 37th week
09. NDS - Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - Nintendo - 25,830 (85,208) - 2nd week
10. NDS - General Knowledge Training - 24,819 (1,185,307) - 15th week
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2007, 05:16:10 PM
here is what this thread was missing last week.



Hardware numbers:
DSL - 146,073
Wii - 65,740
PSP - 31,216
PS3 - 18,727
PS2 - 17,540
Xbox360 - 6,130
GBM - 1,050
GBASP - 724
GC - 306
DS - 119
GBA - 28

DS + DSL LTD = 14,908,530
GBA + GBASP + GBM LTD = 15,314,888
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 07, 2007, 09:14:43 PM
PS3 is out of the Top30 again... You know if any of its games hanging out in the #40-50 range?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: bbruzzes on February 08, 2007, 02:25:56 AM
Wow, Nintendo is just on fire in Japan! 22 of the 30 top selling games are DS games, and games made for a Nintendo console captured 26 of 30 spots. New Super Mario Bros has now sold well past 4 million units in Japan alone, and getting close to 10 million worldwide if it hasn't surpassed it already. Just wait until the Wii starts kicking it up a notch with game releases.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2007, 03:20:49 AM
I'm still tring to find the Mario Chart that has all the Mario games and what they've sold in Japan(& WW?) all listed next to each other with a representive Mario from that game, but this bit of info is all I've been able to find w/o that chart.
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NSMB is 100k away from outselling Super Mario Land and becoming the best selling handheld Mario ever, and the second-best selling Super Mario game ever (in Japan).

I really want to find that chart though, cause the biggest selling Mario game was represented by the largest Mario icon and the smallest has the tiniest Mario icon, all listed in order from smalles to biggest. I was a nice chart.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 08, 2007, 05:26:46 AM
I'm impressed with Hotel Dusk.  Everything else is grand, too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on February 08, 2007, 06:58:02 AM
BlackNMild! Are you cheesemeister?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on February 08, 2007, 09:09:23 AM
Here, BlackNMild.. from that chart it seems like NSMB is ahead of Super Mario Land already in Japan. The original Super Mario Bros is still first, but it may have been a pack-in for Japan also.

Super Mario Bros 3 is still the best-selling non-pack-in game ever.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2007, 06:36:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
BlackNMild! Are you cheesemeister?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Of course not, but I'm sure he doens't mind if I borrow his charts, I think they were very nice and he would want as many people to see the product all of his time & effort as possible. Besides I was trying to make the DS Sales thread not so redundant. No need to for two identical threads, Pacman charts are for dress up, in the DS thread.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Khushrenada on February 16, 2007, 05:08:59 PM
Where is BlackNMild2K1? This thread is getting neglected. Heck, Brandogg posted NDP numbers in the GameCube forum. Why weren't they reported here? I might have to check out the Wii sales thread to see what has been happening in Japan.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 19, 2007, 05:38:20 AM
Here ya go (lifted from GamesAreFun):

Hardware:

1. DSL - 201,177 (+54,085) - 1,104,028 - 8,553,912
2. Wii - 78,550 (+12,810) - 603,478 - 1,523,121
3. PSP - 32,175 (+959) - 303,113 - 4,835,242
4. PS3 - 23,431 (+4,704) - 178,734 - 636,292
5. PS2 - 16,033 (-1,507) - 149,437 - 20,304,296
6. 360 - 4,811 (-1,319) - 52,617 - 317,319
7. GBASP - 980 (+256) - 8,136 - 5,927,087
8. GBM - 884 (-166) - 10,245 - 570,175
9. NGC - 383 (+77) - 3,459 - 4,172,927
10. NDS - 121 (+2) - 581 - 6,582,838
11. GBA - 36 (+8) - 308 - 8,823,514

DS and Wii both make big gains.


Software (from the Wii thread that you could just go read):

01. (PS3, Sega) Virtua Fighter 5 - 48,346 / NEW
02. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 45,897 / 1,004,555
03. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 36,090 / 879,432
04. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 32,800 / 3,963,712
05. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 29,026 / 4,118,078
06. (PS2, Capcom) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 27,519 / 304,113
07. (DS, Nintendo) Wario: Master of Disguise - 26,815 / 185,695
08. (DS, Marvelous Interactive) Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On - 26,804 / 106,212
09. (DS, Marvelous Interactive) Luminous Arc - 25,676 / NEW
10. (PS2, Sega) J-League Pro Soccer 5 - 24,468 / 131,541
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11. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World
12. (DS, Nintendo) Picross DS
13. (DS, Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training
14. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS
15. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age
16. (DS, Pokemon) Pokémon Diamond
17. (DS, Nintendo) English Training
18. (DS, IE Institute) Kanji Brain Test 2M
19. (DS, Pokemon) Pokémon Pearl
20. (DS, Sega) Sangokushi Taisen DS
21. (DS, Sega) Love+Berry
22. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable
23. (DS, Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker
24. (DS, Nintendo) Hotel Dusk: Room 215
25. (DS, Rocket Co.) Kanji Test
26. (DS, Bandai-Namco) Heisei Board of Education DS
27. (Wii, Nintendo) Wario Ware Smooth Moves
28. (DS, Nintendo) 1000 Recipes
29. (DS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad
30. (DS, Sega) Puyo-Puyo!

So DS had all but two spots in the 11-30 range!  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on February 20, 2007, 02:50:27 PM
Possible complete NPD January numbers from a NEOGaf post

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...
Nintendo DS 238,869
PlayStation Portable 210,719
Game Boy Advance 179,482
...


PSP LIVES!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on February 21, 2007, 03:48:16 AM
Yeah, the PSP numbers are impressive.  I'm more surprsied at how low DS sales were...PSP is about where I figured it would be, numbers-wise, but I thought DS would sell way more than that.  I figured it would overshadow everything.  I guess there weren't any really big releases in January.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 21, 2007, 06:00:03 AM
Fraom what I've heard the DS is still virtually sold out everywhere. Nintendo just didn't ship that many.
Maybe they have to choose between plastic for more DSs or slighty more plastic towards more Wiis.
It could also be that Nintendo wanted to feed the HUGE the demand in Europe since they just started their drought.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2007, 07:08:17 AM


Wow @ the debut of the Professor Layton game. I saw the preview a few weeks ago and wasn't sure what to make of it. Its also good to see that the Top 5 games this week are all 3rd party regardless of what platform its for.

It also looks like Brain Age 2 is about to be the next 4 million seller(currently @ 3,991,966). I'm not sure how many that makes, but I know it joined the likes of:

Pokemon: D&P, NSMB, Animal Crossing & Nintendogs

Did Brain Age 1 break 4 million?  



The DS is inches away from surpassing its older brother the GBA and closing in on that 5+ million unit lead that the PS2 has. If sales keep up, I think the DS will surpass the PS2 before Sept. is over.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ages on February 22, 2007, 07:59:26 AM
Nope, Brain Age 1 "only" made it to about 3.4mil .  It seems to be selling at about 20k a week, so give it about 25 weeks more.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on February 22, 2007, 08:11:49 AM
I am scared to know what the Death Note game might be like.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on February 22, 2007, 11:55:06 AM
That Professor Layton game actually sold 136,736 copies in a week, I hope it does just as well the following week.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on February 22, 2007, 12:06:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I am scared to know what the Death Note game might be like.


My question is if it's based on the Manga or the live action films.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 04:08:29 PM
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Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle
That Professor Layton game actually sold 136,736 copies in a week, I hope it does just as well the following week.


I think it sold out, so it'll probably plummet ala DQ:J next week.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2007, 05:47:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I am scared to know what the Death Note game might be like.


Play asia describes it pretty well. And it sounds pretty interesting.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2007, 05:57:40 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I am scared to know what the Death Note game might be like.


Play asia describes it pretty well. And it sounds pretty interesting.
Funhouse Mafia the videogame?
 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on February 23, 2007, 05:12:19 AM
Yeah, it sure sounds like Mafia to me.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bloodworth on February 23, 2007, 07:05:59 AM
FYI, I kind of sit like L sometimes. Funny to see him draw so much attention in the show.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2007, 06:46:04 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Feb 19-25
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...67814,0,0.html

1. Monster Hunter Portable 2 (PSP) - 750k
2. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri (PS2) - 80k
3. Fire Emblem Godess of Dawn (Wii) - 70k
4. Sim City (DS) - 50k
5. Professor Layton (DS)
6. Wii Sports (Wii)
7. Dragon Quest Monster Joker (DS)
8. Naruto Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX (Wii) - 35k
9. Pokémon Diamond/Pearl (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)

PSP - 1
PS2 - 1
DS - 4
Wii - 4

DS Lite - 140,000
PSP - 100,000

All #'s are unofficial, but it looks like PSP might outsell Wii this week.
WOW @ MHP2, thats an incredible start, and everyone thought the PSP was dead.... well here comes Capcom with some CPR.

Good to see Prof. Layton still in the charts, DQMJ back in the charts & Sim City doing decent in its first week.
Anybody read japanese? can you tell me what game #2 is?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on February 28, 2007, 07:33:35 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Anybody read japanese? can you tell me what game #2 is?
It looks to be a a Japanese murder mystery dojin soft visual novel series based on the NScripter engine, produced by 07th Expansion.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on February 28, 2007, 08:38:03 AM
It's the game one of Bill's favourite series is based on. More exactly the PS2 port, it was originally a PC indie game. Bill will happily fill you in on the details.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on March 01, 2007, 02:29:34 AM
DS is d00med!

Seriously, though, I think PSP has decent potential as a secondary market, just like GameCube, and Capcom seems to have found a way to exploit that market.  Wii may actually unconsciously help PSP, because a lot of developers seem to view Wii/PSP/PS2 as a good multi-platform group.

PSP is never going to beat DS, but it could still be a viable platform.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on March 01, 2007, 04:54:37 AM
I agree completely, CM.  I think the Gamecube is a good comparison - in fact, it has a very similarly sized install base.  It will never have the depth of library that the DS has, but it will continue to get titles, especially, like you say, Wii / PS2 / PSP multi-platform releases.

On an off note, I just got a PSP and I think it gets a bum rap.  It's certainly no DS, and there are definitely a lot of inexplicable design decisions that went into it, but if you can get passed its drawbacks there's definitely fun to be had.  Especially since I never had a PS2, I don't mind the port-tastic library as much as most people.  It's nice to be able to catch up on games I missed while I'm on the train everyday.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on March 01, 2007, 03:09:31 PM
Yeah. The PSP is basically a lot of stuff done right, with a couple things done wrong, but not too many. The BIG problems with it are fundamental though: price and the very concept it's based on, sadly.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Amodaus1 on March 01, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
I knew the psp wasn't doing as badly as most people said. This 750k for monster hunter is about equal to NA's GTA. Japan has it's one hit wonder and NA has it's one hit wonder, with i'm sure, a hand full of titles doing decently well (portable ops and madden come to mind, but i know theres more).

Anyway, what would really be intresting is to see how bad the PS3 really fairs. Alot of people have said that if PS3 does bad enough, PSP will get the Axe. I say, If the PS3 does bad enough, the PSP is going to end up being Sony's crutch.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 01, 2007, 05:22:11 PM
No hardware yet, but I do have an early software sales report for next weeks chart.
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Gundam Musou(PS3) nearly sold all 150k first shipment, next shipment is on next week.
Super Robot War W should sold all 250k shipment during weekend, next shipment is the end of March :/ !!??
Also, MHP2, SimCity DS and Layton are still selling. The latter 2 are in shortage. Layton will restock in weekend and SimCity needs to wait 2 weeks....

This cartridge shortage thing is getting a little out of control. Either Nintendo needs to find more plastic, open another cartidge factory, out-source some of the workload and/or 3rd parties and retailers need to place much larger orders for these games Consumers need to learn how to pre-order so that the correct amount of games are ordered and none of this 2-4weeks to restock non-sense.

If I had just released a game that had sold much faster than expected, I would be pissed if Nintendo told me I had to wait 4WEEKS to get more stock in stores. I could've just missed my window to sell more games and profit enough to expand my developments. 4 weeks later my game could have been forgotten about or lost in the shuffle of NEW games being released. I hope they work this out before DQIX is released.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 01, 2007, 06:08:33 PM
Media Create Feb 19th - 24th

Hardware:
Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2007 Sales | Lifetime Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 136,128 | 136,846 | 1,376,562 | 8,799,886
2.) PlayStation Portable - 100,210 | 34,505 | 437,828 | 4,969,957
3.) Wii - 78,506 | 63,618 | 745,602 | 1,665,245
4.) PlayStation 3 - 19,315 | 20,676 | 218,725 | 676,283
5.) PlayStation 2 - 15,054 | 16,192 | 180,683 | 20,335,542
6.) Xbox 360 - 4,183 | 5,210 | 62,010 | 326,712
7.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,035 | 843 | 9,171 | 5,925,054
8.) Game Boy micro - 907 | 953 | 12,105 | 572,035
9.) GameCube - 323 | 347 | 4,129 | 4,173,597
10.) Nintendo DS - 132 | 153 | 846 | 6,583,201
11.) Game Boy Advance - 59 | 40 | 427 | 8,823,536

DS combined LTD = 15,383,087
GBA combined LTD = 15,320,625

DS beats GBA in half the time. Pop the champagne? Not so quick there Its gotta be tough to constantly have to top yourself, but its not over yet. there is still one more to beat before moving onto the PS2

GB + GBC = 15,737,365
DS combined LTD = 15,383,087

Maybe by the end of this month? Then we can bust out the bubbly cause DS will be the new Handheld KING!!

Well kinda, after it takes out the PS2 the only thing left is the entire GB brand
GB+GBC+GBA+GBASP+GBm = 31,057,990
DS combined LTD = 15,383,087 <--halfway there

Other System's LTD
GameBoy Color 5,067,710 up to 2002 (not sure)
WonderSwan Color 1,318,913 up to 2002 (not sure)
Pocketstation 3,657,454 Up to 2001
NeoGeo Pocket Color 357,162 Up to 2001
WonderSwan 1,014,007 Up to 2001
NeoGeo Pocket 61,752 Up to 2001
Gameboy 10,669,655 Up to 2001

On a side note, PSP is close to closing in on the GBC, one more week like this one and they are there.
GBC 5,067,710
PSP 4,969,957

*all #'s come from GAF*  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 01, 2007, 07:12:40 PM
Cool beans, Wii has a 1 million unit lead on PS3.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on March 01, 2007, 11:22:38 PM
How many wonderswans were ever sold, I wonder?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on March 02, 2007, 03:11:36 AM
I wonder how PSP is doing for Sony?  Are they still losing money on the hardware?  Are they earning that back on the software?  Those are the things that will decide if it gets axed or not, PS3 probably doesn't matter.

If PS3 keeps doing poorly...I don't know.  I think cutting the generation short by popping out a new console would be a definite possibility, but it depends on how stubborn Sony is about winning the Blu-ray war.  Maybe they'll continue to support PS2 more vigorously than expected or maybe they'll try to put out a brand new "third pillar" console with no Blu-ray?  And probably some more motion sensing stuff.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on March 02, 2007, 03:43:28 AM
Well, one thing Sony understands well, and I think they've proven this with both Playsations, is that they understand how to design consoles that will eventually be cheap to manufacture.  My understanding is that, like the PS3, Sony took a loss on each PS2 towards the beginning, but by the end they were making a fair bit of profit on each one.

It would shock me if after manufacturing 25 million of them that they'd still be taking a loss on the PSP.  Their losses will gradually subside on the PS3 as well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ages on March 02, 2007, 06:38:23 AM
That may be true, but think about how much money Sony will be losing by then.  Not to mention inflation and the time value of money.  (gotta love finance class!)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SixthAngel on March 02, 2007, 10:46:32 AM
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Originally posted by: hudsonhawk
Well, one thing Sony understands well, and I think they've proven this with both Playsations, is that they understand how to design consoles that will eventually be cheap to manufacture.  My understanding is that, like the PS3, Sony took a loss on each PS2 towards the beginning, but by the end they were making a fair bit of profit on each one.

It would shock me if after manufacturing 25 million of them that they'd still be taking a loss on the PSP.  Their losses will gradually subside on the PS3 as well.


I don't think thats called designing a consoles well, its just called designing a console.  Hardware gets cheaper to manufacture over time and it has been true for every system.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 02, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
Not only that, but the PS2 was also massively successful from the get-go, so the trade-offs over time between money lost due to unit production vs money gained due to expanding userbase is not necessarily the same for the PS3 in this age.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: hudsonhawk on March 03, 2007, 03:49:28 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel


I don't think thats called designing a consoles well, its just called designing a console.  Hardware gets cheaper to manufacture over time and it has been true for every system.


Not true at all.  Every recent console that wasn't by Nintendo or Sony has sold at a loss for its lifetime.  The Saturn, Dreamcast, and Xbox - all sold at a loss for their entire lifetimes.

Nintendo's different because they always sell at a profit from day one.  Maybe it isn't designing a console well, but it's at least understanding manufacturing really well.  Of course, Sony's vertically integrated so they have an advantage over everyone else in that regard.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2007, 08:04:25 AM
double post
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2007, 08:04:26 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Feb 26th - Mar 4th
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...68159,0,0.html

1. Super Robot Taisen W (DS)
2. Gundam Musou (PS3) - 180k
3. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (PSP)
4. Professor Layton (DS)
5. Wii Sports (Wii)
6. Pokémon Diamond & Pearl (DS)
7. NSMB (DS)
8. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (DS)
9. Wii Play (Wii)
10. More Brain Training (DS)


DS Lite 110,000
PSP 60,000
Wii 60,000
PS3 40,000
Xbox360 5,000

PS3 Gundam / DS SRWW: 170,000

Wii
FE 100,000 (Total)

DS
DQMJ 1,200,000 (Total)
Layton 200,000 (Total)

PSP
MHP2 900,000 (Total)

Super Robot Wars take the #1 spot. That manes it must have sold more than 180k in its firs week cause thats what Gundam Musou has been reported to have sold.
Professor Layton is still in the Top 5!!! and NSMB is back!? what a surprise.
Also nice to see Nintendo manages to produce more DQMJ to be sold, I expect this one to be a multi-million seller at some point in its life.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Deguello on March 07, 2007, 08:27:26 AM
It already is BlacknMild.  DQJM, that is.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 07, 2007, 08:28:09 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Professor Layton is still in the Top 5!!! and NSMB is back!? what a surprise.

Does that mean Professor Layton is a system seller?  I'll be interested to see if other DS perennials enjoyed a surge as well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2007, 05:54:58 PM
Media Create has Gundam @ the #1 spot and I meant DQMJ would be a multi-million seller at some point in its life.
many differences between Famitsu and Media Create

Media Create

01. (PS3, Bandai-Namco) Gundam Musou - 170,725 / NEW
02. (DS, Banpresto) Super Robot Wars W - 139,311 / NEW
03. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 137,851 / 843,132
04. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 39,639 / 1,130,376
05. (DS, Level 5) Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village - 33,957 / 220,673
06. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 31,702 / 976,288
07. (DS, Bandai-Namco) Iron Left Brain: Mistake Museum 2 - 28,495 / NEW
08. (DS, Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker - 27,236 / 1,201,812
09. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 24,545 / 4,193,532
10. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age - 22,854 / 4,039,850  

56. (DS, S-E) FF3 - 3500 / 999000?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on March 08, 2007, 05:57:37 AM
Giant robots FTW!

The charts are actually pretty interesting these days, I figured we'd never hear from PS3 again until Final Fantasy came out.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 08, 2007, 07:29:47 AM
Is this Gundam as bad as the last one?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on March 08, 2007, 07:28:10 PM
how long has Fire Emblem been out in Japan?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2007, 10:09:35 PM
Fire Emblem has been out for two weeks worth of charts(I think).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on March 09, 2007, 07:50:05 AM
Isn't that really quick for another game in the same universe?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2007, 08:08:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Isn't that really quick for another game in the same universe?
I think the new one is a continutation of the story in the 1st one, but I wouldn't really know cause I have never played a Fire Emblem game before and have not really read much on the new one either.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: bosshogx on March 09, 2007, 03:31:58 PM
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I think the new one is a continutation of the story in the 1st one, but I wouldn't really know cause I have never played a Fire Emblem game before and have not really read much on the new one either.


That would be partly correct.  One of the main characters in the new Fire Emblem was a kid named Sothe you could recruit from in the first Gamecube game.  When you stumble upon him, he says he is looking for someone, which from the videos I've seen looks to be the young girl.  So, same world, but it looks to happen a few years later.  Hopefully some of the other characters will make a return too, here's hoping for Nephenee!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 13, 2007, 05:15:18 PM
Faamitsu March 5th - 11th

1. Yoshi's Island 2 (DS) - 250k
2. MHP2 (PSP) - 50k
3. Gundam (PS3) - 200k LTD
4. SRWW (DS)
5. Professor Layton (DS)
6. kenkabancho2 (PS2)
7. DQMJ (DS)
8. Wii Sports (Wii)
9. Pokemon D&P (DS)
10. NSMB (DS) - 4.2 millon LTD

Heroes of Mana (DS) - 20k
Eyeshield 21 (Wii) - 10k
Dragon Sakura (DS?) - 3-5k

DS - 100k
Wii - 50k
PS3 - 20k

I'm surprised to see Layton still up and running.    
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 13, 2007, 09:07:45 PM
MHP? ManHattan Project?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on March 14, 2007, 04:17:37 AM
Monster Hunter Portable 2
A hold over from last week.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 14, 2007, 04:17:41 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
MHP? ManHattan Project?


Monster Hunter Portable 2 for PSP
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on March 15, 2007, 06:50:35 AM
Go Yoshi!  I'm impressed that Monster Hunter is still up there, good for them.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 21, 2007, 06:07:07 AM
Famitsu March 12th - 18th

Software:
1. DS Yoshi's Island (Nintendo) - 120k
2. DS Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan DS (Bandai) - 80k NEW
3. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom) - 50k
4. DS Layton (Level 5)
5. Wii Wii Sports (Nintendo)
6. DS Pokemon D&P (Nintendo)
7. DS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
8. Wii Wii Play (Nintendo)
9. DS More Brain Training (Nintendo)
10. PS2 Konjiki no Corda 2 (Koei) - NEW  

??. Wii Sonic 10k

Software LTD
Layton 300k
Sim City DS 80k
Heroes of Mana 30k

Hardware:
DS 120k
Wii 60k
PSP 40k
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 21, 2007, 06:54:06 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

Wii 60k
PSP 40k


Yes.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2007, 05:25:24 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Mar 19-25
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...69112,0,0.html

Software:
1. Musou Orochi (PS2) - NEW  - 400k
2. Yoshi's Island DS (NDS) - LTD > 500k
3. Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Goku Densetsu (NDS) - NEW - 60k
4. Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (NDS) - 60k, LTD ~140k
5. Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (NDS) - 50k, LTD > 350k
6. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (PSP)
7. Wii Sports (Wii)
8. Crayon Shin-Chan DS (NDS) - NEW - 30k
9. Wii Play (Wii) - LTD > 1m  
10. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS)

[Wii] Wario Ware SM - LTD < 500k (does not mean near 500k just less than)
[Wii] Zelda TP - LTD < 500k

[X360] Armored Core 4 - 10k

Hardware:
DSL?158,609
Wii?87,704
PSP?42,226
PS3?18,391
PS2?15,434
360?3,616  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2007, 06:03:03 PM
I've been waiting for this chart to pop up for a very very long time. So now I present to you:
The Mario Chart (Japan only)


Only 2.6 million to go, place your bets.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on March 28, 2007, 06:20:47 PM
Those are in-Japan numbers only, right?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 28, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
Yup.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on March 29, 2007, 06:23:59 AM
MSMB (GBA)?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 29, 2007, 07:51:51 AM
Mini Super Mario Bros.  As in Famicom Mini Super mario Bros????
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on March 30, 2007, 09:52:43 AM
I don't think New Super Mario Bros. will surpass the original game in Japan, but it's sure getting close, isn't it?  I just don't think DS will have the same legs as the NES, Nintendo will try to shift attention to something new sooner than it did with NES.

I wonder if Super Mario Galaxy can surpass the 1 million mark?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2007, 10:18:51 AM
Considering the non-existant marketing for the game, nah.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on March 30, 2007, 03:47:49 PM
Even though Japanese don't seem to like 3D Mario platformers as much as the 2D ones, I think Galaxy will definitely pass a million over there. Mario has momentum with NSMB and the Wii is flourishing in Japan. Sunshine on the Cube sold nearly 900,000 - there's no reason Galaxy shouldn't be much more than that.

EDIT: I wonder how Super Paper Mario will do in Japan, but around the world also.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2007, 07:00:25 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Mar 26 - Apr 1
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...69609,0,0.html

1. Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ (PS2) ~180k
2. Musou Orochi (PS2)
3. Digimon Story (NDS)
4. More English Training (NDS) <--3rd party?
5. Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (NDS)
6. Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (NDS)

7. Pro Baseball Spirits 4 (PS2)
8. Tamagotchi's Splendid Rainbow-venture (NDS)
9. Yoshi's Island DS (NDS)
10. Fist of the North Star: Shinban no Futazousei - Kengou Retsuden (PS2)

Third Party DS titles bolded  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on April 04, 2007, 09:44:24 AM
I do have to cry a little seeing that NSMB beat Super Mario Bros. 3.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2007, 06:56:28 AM
why the double post? i don't understand it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2007, 06:56:30 AM
The Nintendo "fad" is finally over...

Famitsu April 2nd - 8th
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...70007,0,0.html

Software
1. Naruto: Shippuuden N-Ultimate Accelerator (PS2) - 70k (NEW)
2. Gundam SEED Alliance vs. ZAFT Portable (PSP) - 60k (NEW)
3. Musou Orochi (PS2)
4. Pro Baseball Spirits 4 (PS2)
5. Yoshi's Island DS (NDS) - LTD 500k
6. Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ (PS2)
7. More English Training (NDS)
8. Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (NDS)
9. Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable 2 (PSP)
10. Wii Sports (Wii)

PS2 + PSP = 6 of the Top 10

Other DS games:
Mojipittan DS - LTD 200k
Tamagochi (released 2 weeks ago) - 20k
Conan - 20k (new)

Hardware:
DS ~120k
Wii ~45k
PSP ~30k
PS2 ~15k
PS3 ~15k

Wii & PS3 to hit an alltime(?) low? I think it obvious Nintendo is holding them back for Golden Week, whats Sony's excuse?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on April 11, 2007, 07:01:54 AM
It was a good run but clearly here that the PS2 just isn't going to be beat.  Though Yoshi Island is very surprising.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ages on April 11, 2007, 07:40:07 AM
Golden Week?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2007, 07:47:59 AM
Golden Week is a series of Japanese holidays to my understanding. Its kinda like Black Friday(the day after Thanksgiving) during the week of Christmas or something like that. Either way it means huge sales all over the place in Japan. SPM gets released right before it, which is why Nintendo would be holding back systems.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 11, 2007, 07:49:05 AM
Golden Week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: oohhboy on April 11, 2007, 09:12:21 AM
Ahh, golden week. From what I can remember being there, that it was a time for everybody to bugger off somewhere. Hell, even I buggered off to somewhere during that week. I am not too sure whether it actually spurs more sales outside of enterainment into electronic goods though.

The biggest impression I got from the entire week was that, for one week, Japan stood still.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: MaryJane on April 11, 2007, 11:38:20 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
Ahh, golden week. From what I can remember being there, that it was a time for everybody to bugger off somewhere. Hell, even I buggered off to somewhere during that week. I am not too sure whether it actually spurs more sales outside of enterainment into electronic goods though.

The biggest impression I got from the entire week was that, for one week, Japan stood still.


This is true, it's basically Christmas for a week. No one but emergency service people go to work. No manga, no anime, few sales.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 11, 2007, 11:44:29 AM
Playstation more like Gundamstation, amirite?  This is the most exciting chart since Wii first came out.

Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Sessha on April 11, 2007, 05:18:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaryJane
Quote

Originally posted by: oohhboy
Ahh, golden week. From what I can remember being there, that it was a time for everybody to bugger off somewhere. Hell, even I buggered off to somewhere during that week. I am not too sure whether it actually spurs more sales outside of enterainment into electronic goods though.

The biggest impression I got from the entire week was that, for one week, Japan stood still.


This is true, it's basically Christmas for a week. No one but emergency service people go to work. No manga, no anime, few sales.



Your forgetting a new Detective Conan movie ^-^
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2007, 05:56:12 AM
Some first day sales estimates:

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10030691116.html

4/12 first day estimate -

[NDS] Gyakuten Saiban 4 - 160k; limited version sold out
[NDS] Mario vs Donkey Kong 2 - 25k; looks like it will have legs
[PS2] gRiMgRiMoiRe - 10k; doing ok

courtesy of GAF as all sales data I post is.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on April 13, 2007, 07:27:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
[NDS] Mario vs Donkey Kong 2 - 25k; looks like it will have legs
Why's that?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 19, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
Congrats to DS on selling half a million in North America for no apparent reason last month.  Puzzle Quest???
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on April 19, 2007, 02:32:08 PM
The DS is an unstoppable monster. Imagine how much it will sell this Christmas.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 21, 2007, 04:33:26 PM
I know EBA got off to a relatively slow start here in the USA, and that it didn't sell the 300k or so that Reggie wanted.

But check it out!

Quote

Nintendo DS
North America: 1. Elite Beat Agents (Nintendo)


These casual games may not do blockbuster sales like we'd traditionally expect, but BOY do they have legs!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 23, 2007, 04:46:30 AM
That's the thing with the "non-games" or whatever you wish to call them: since their audience goes beyond the traditional gamer, you don't have the game selling 1 million copies on day 1 and then quickly falling off the charts.  The audience takes a while to discover the game.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on April 23, 2007, 05:14:40 AM
I assume this means that we have a chance of getting EBA2 here in the states then?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 23, 2007, 01:20:44 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
I know EBA got off to a relatively slow start here in the USA, and that it didn't sell the 300k or so that Reggie wanted.

But check it out!

Quote

Nintendo DS
North America: 1. Elite Beat Agents (Nintendo)


These casual games may not do blockbuster sales like we'd traditionally expect, but BOY do they have legs!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Where is that from?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on April 23, 2007, 04:25:17 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
I know EBA got off to a relatively slow start here in the USA, and that it didn't sell the 300k or so that Reggie wanted.

But check it out!

Quote

Nintendo DS
North America: 1. Elite Beat Agents (Nintendo)


These casual games may not do blockbuster sales like we'd traditionally expect, but BOY do they have legs!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Where is that from?


Gamasutra.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mikintosh on April 23, 2007, 07:20:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
I know EBA got off to a relatively slow start here in the USA, and that it didn't sell the 300k or so that Reggie wanted.

But check it out!

Quote

Nintendo DS
North America: 1. Elite Beat Agents (Nintendo)


These casual games may not do blockbuster sales like we'd traditionally expect, but BOY do they have legs!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


'Course, they did say there was a big spike from the one-day price reduction on Amazon, but still...#1's damn good for a non-franchise game.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2007, 06:23:40 AM
I forgot to post Famitsu last week, but I'm sure no one noticed. Anyways....

Famitsu 4/16 - 4/22

1. Super Paper Mario (Wii) ~ 150k
2. Fate/stay night[Realta Nua] (PS2) ~ 140k
3. Persona 3: Fes (PS2)
4. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
5. Final Fantasy (PSP)
6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2 (DS)
7. Wii Sports (Wii)
8. Nodame Cantabile (DS)
9. Yoshi's Island DS (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)

DSL 150k
Wii 65k
PSP 30k
PS2 10k
PS3 10k
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 26, 2007, 05:00:00 AM
Anybody know what Nodame Cantabile is?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2007, 07:21:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Anybody know what Nodame Cantabile is?


I'm not really sure, but I think it might be
"12./00. [DS] Atelier Lise: The Alchemist of Orudôru (Gust) New!"
from the Media Create list this week
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on April 26, 2007, 07:57:18 AM
Wiki for Nodame Cantabile

It seems to be a manga of some sort from the Wiki.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 27, 2007, 04:58:37 AM
I started watching one episode of that and decided I don't want to see an anime about music back when the first subs were released.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2007, 05:34:56 AM
Of note in  in Nintendo's recent fiscal year press event, they mentioned that DS is being manufactured at a rate of 2.5 million per month, the highest ever for a Nintendo game system.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on April 28, 2007, 06:59:35 AM
They should be doing 3.5 million a month.  This thing would sell that fast.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2007, 08:31:49 AM
Here are some French Hardware #'s

Jan - March of '07

Nintendo DS : 260.000
Nintendo Wii : 144.000
Playstation 2 : 92.000
PSP : 90.000
Playstation 3 : 81.000
Xbox 360 : 43.000


Looks like the DS & Wii are doing really well over in France. I wonder how much different it is throughout the rest of Europe.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on April 28, 2007, 12:00:46 PM
DS has to be strong in Germany because Iwata recently mentioned that it had 18 of the German top 20 game list.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on April 28, 2007, 09:40:29 PM
They're even releasing Anno and Settlers for the DS here (neither is out yet).
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 05, 2007, 06:28:07 PM
German all formats top 10

1. (NDS) Harvest Moon: Innocent Life
2. (NDS) Pokèmon Ranger
3. (NDS) Dr. Kawashimas Gehirn-Jogging
4. (NDS) Diddy Kong Racing DS
5. (NDS) Mario Slam Basketball
6. (NDS) New Super Mario Bros.
7. (NDS) Animal Crossing: Wild World
8. (NDS) Nintendogs Labrador
9. (NDS) Nintendogs Dalmatiner
10. (NDS) Hotel Dusk: Room 215

Spain all formats top 10 (with unit sales!)

1 POKEMON RANGER DS 10.553 / 24.939
2 BRAIN TRAINING DS 4.601 / 353.990
3 HOTEL DUSK: ROOM 215 DS 3.946/ 5.483
4 WII PLAY WII 3.609/ 45.845
5 HORSEZ DS 2.956 /23.522
6 NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. DS 2.326/ 166.908
7 ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD DS 2.046 / 208.006
8 RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN PS3 1.950 / 36.332
9 F1 CHAMPIONSHIP EDITION PS3 1.762/ 24.462
10 FIFA STREET 2 PLATINUM PS2 1.708/ 1.708
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on May 07, 2007, 07:25:31 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
German all formats top 10
You sure about that?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on May 07, 2007, 09:34:02 AM
Strikes me as improbable that HM takes first spot on the DS or overall sales.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on May 07, 2007, 01:57:08 PM
Yep
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 08, 2007, 01:16:39 PM
Who's to say it wasn't just released there?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on May 08, 2007, 08:23:51 PM
Oh it was, it just doesn't strike me as a game that'd take #1. Stores aren't stocking more than a handfull of copies AFAIK.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on May 09, 2007, 06:03:58 AM
Well, maybe all the copies were bought up and it was a light sales week for other games.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 09, 2007, 07:24:08 AM
according to go nintendo

Japanese hardware sales: April 23-29

DS Lite - 255,971
Wii - 102,522
PSP - 33,860
PS3 - 12,791
PS2 - 12,584
Xbox 360 - 3,162
GB Micro - 630
GBASP - 495
Cube - 167
DS Phat - 92
GBA - 0
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2007, 07:32:04 AM
Famitsu Top 10 May 7-13:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...71799,0,0.html

1. Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (PSP)
2. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
3. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. More Brain Training (DS)
6. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
7. New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
8. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
9. More English Training (DS)
10. Brain Training (DS)

DSL - 160,009
Wii - 55,724
PSP - 33,438
PS2 - 11,854
PS3 - 8,962
360 - 2,369

Things are NOT looking good for PS3 in the [strike]home[/strike]Nintendoland.
Maybe those rumors of a price drop near the end of summer will come true.

Hopefully for Sony's sake a certain Japanese developer is wrong, and the price is the issue and not the fact that the PS3 is ginormous  in comparison to the Wii (he also said the price and size of the 360 wasn't the problem, but the size of the power brick is). Apparently Japanese people are very space constrained and don't have alot of room for oversized electronics.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on May 16, 2007, 08:08:37 AM
So how come you're only posting the sales stuff nowdays BnM? I haven't seen you anywhere else in the forums..
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2007, 08:17:10 AM
Haven't really been online lately, my computer is still broken and I'm waiting on the motherboard replacement, so I'm using a shared computer right now which limits my time online. I've also been trying to catch up on all the TV shows my DVR is recording so that I can delete them off my box (I got really backlogged on 24 due to watching Heroes first instead). I also just moved and and am now looking to buy a house soon, so I've been really busy and haven't been able to catch up on all the threads going on here (WTH is going on in the Funhouse?).  I should be around more soon, when the dust begins to settle around here .
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 16, 2007, 08:37:19 AM
people don't want to work more hours.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on May 17, 2007, 01:12:33 PM
Diamond over ONE MEEELION. In freaking April!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on May 19, 2007, 03:14:16 AM
Is it just me, or do Pokemon games have a legacy of emerging during the most inopportune times of the year?  Do you think it'd make a difference sales-wise if Pokemon were to ever be released around October or November?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2007, 06:14:57 AM
Famitsu 5/14 - 5/20
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...72135,0,0.html

1. Shining Wind (PS2) - 80k
2. Ouendan 2 (DS) - 70k (7 times VS Ouendan 1 first week's number, 90% of shipment)
3. Odin Sphere (PS2) - 60k (80% of shipment)
4. FFT (PSP) - LTD > 200k
5. Wii Sports (Wii)
6. New SMB (DS)
7. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
8. Momotarou Dentetsu DS (DS)
9. FF12RW (DS)
10. More Brain Training (DS)

DS - 112,080
Wii - 57,654
PSP - 26,044
PS2 - 11,740
PS3 - 8,189
360 - 2,296
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 23, 2007, 06:23:13 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Is it just me, or do Pokemon games have a legacy of emerging during the most inopportune times of the year?  Do you think it'd make a difference sales-wise if Pokemon were to ever be released around October or November?

I think it's just Ninty realizing that Pokemon will sell no matter WHEN it's sold...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 23, 2007, 07:40:26 AM
Yep.  Pokemon is gonna sell no matter what.  (well maybe not if it's some weird spin-off.)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 30, 2007, 06:36:18 AM
Famitsu Top 10 May 21-27 07
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...72574,0,0.html

1. Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (DS) ~40k
2. Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 (PSP) ~40k
3. Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (PSP)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Lucky Star Moé Drill: Travel (DS) ~25k
6. More English Training (DS)
7. New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
8. More Brain Training (DS)
9. Kurikin: Nano Island Story (DS) ~20k (near sellout)
10. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)

Pachinko Ultraman - ~20k (near sellout)
Forza 2 - 10k
Hoshigami - 5k
Touch Detective 2½ - 3k
Jissen Pachislo Hisshou-hou! Sammy's Collection: Fist of the North Star Wii - 2k

DS 130k
Wii 60k
PSP 25k
PS3 - 9,984

Bad News:
Quendan 2 is not listed this week - could be due to no restock though, it did sell 90% of its shipment last week
NBA Homecourt (PS3) sold about the same a Madden did in Japan (<500 copies, ~350 maybe?)
And it seems to be relatively slow week for software too.

Good News:
PS3 has seen an increase in sales from last week, but has just missed the 10k mark.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 30, 2007, 10:00:56 AM
It is amazing that New Super Mario Bros. still manages to occasionally break into the top 10 after all this time....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2007, 07:20:40 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
It is amazing that New Super Mario Bros. still manages to occasionally break into the top 10 after all this time....
NSMB has now been on the charts for 1 full year, some sort of congratulatory party should be in the works.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on May 31, 2007, 08:59:49 AM
If memory serves it has now sold enough copies that conceivably 1 in every 4 DS owners could have a copy.  Which makes me sad in a way because I thought the game was a step back.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on May 31, 2007, 12:50:54 PM
NSMB is a hardcore game. Wii Sports is the game that's a step back.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on May 31, 2007, 02:28:53 PM
In comparison to all pre-3D Marios.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 01, 2007, 08:20:45 AM
I think it wasn't a bad idea to go a step back, the later 2d games are full of clutter and especially the flight items changed the gameplay a lot. Personally I liked how they only gave you the fireflower this time.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 01, 2007, 08:26:39 AM
Making New Super Mario Bros. a step back means that there is much to expand for New Super Mario Bros. 2 & 3. And I think a 2 & 3 are very likely because of how well this one is selling... Nintendo knows a cash cow when they see one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2007, 08:33:21 AM
But will NSMB2 be like? The US version or the Japanese one? and what about NSMB3? Is that where all the crazy suits will start or do you think they won't follow the pattern/style of the original games too closely?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on June 01, 2007, 09:18:54 AM
I really don't care if they decide to just use the mushroom and fireflower, which I think while the other two are a little neat but in general a waste of time.  I just hope that their are more varied enemies, even if they are palette swaps,  different themes worlds that stick to the theme of the world in all parts, and get rid of the repetative castles if they are all going to be pretty much the same at the end.  Also I don't like Bowser Jr.  Long Live the Koopa Kids.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 01, 2007, 09:20:33 AM
I murdered the Koopa Kids by boiling them in lava, so you're outta luck.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 01, 2007, 09:30:33 AM
I think with NSMB we were incorrectly lead to believe it was a new Super Mario Bros. game and not just a new game of Super Mario Bros. If that makes sense!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on June 01, 2007, 10:56:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
I think with NSMB we were incorrectly lead to believe it was a new Super Mario Bros. game and not just a new game of Super Mario Bros. If that makes sense!


I would actually believe that if the mini and the shell weren't in it or the overworld map, and Bowser Jr.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Artimus on June 01, 2007, 03:37:13 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
Quote

Originally posted by: Artimus
I think with NSMB we were incorrectly lead to believe it was a new Super Mario Bros. game and not just a new game of Super Mario Bros. If that makes sense!


I would actually believe that if the mini and the shell weren't in it or the overworld map, and Bowser Jr.


The idea being that it's the original SMB made with the knowledge of future games.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: that Baby guy on June 01, 2007, 08:18:39 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
I murdered the Koopa Kids by boiling them in lava, so you're outta luck.


Funny, I did too.  Something weird is going on here...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on June 02, 2007, 02:17:37 AM
I was wondering what we we're having at those two barbecues.

Anyway if it is with future knowledge then why wasn't it better designed?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 06, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
Famitsu Top 10 May 28 - June 3
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...72961,0,0.html

1. Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (DS) - 100k Eye Training)
2. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Wii) - 50k
3. Guilty Gear XX (PS2) - 35k
4. Ouendan 2 (DS) - LTD 100k
5. Wii Sports (Wii) - LTD 1.55m
6. More English Training (DS)
7. New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
8. More Brain Training (DS)
9. Wii Play (Wii) - LTD 1.25m
10. Mario Kart (DS)<--- Look who's back!!!

[PS2] Metal Slug Complete - 7k
[PSP] Bleach 4 - LTD ~50k
[PSP] Everybody's Golf vol.1 - 7k

DS 120k
Wii 70k
PSP 25k
PS2, PS3, 360 - all about the same as last week




   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 07, 2007, 04:07:39 AM
I wonder if there'll ever be a Guilty Gear XXX...

cue Ty posting a photo of a shelf of doujin games
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 07, 2007, 07:55:45 AM
Vin Diesel Edition
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on June 07, 2007, 09:12:24 AM
I'd get the Ice Cube version, myself.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2007, 01:42:11 PM
Sean William Scott Edition.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 08, 2007, 05:52:07 AM
Hey cool, I totally missed that Mario Kart was back on the list.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 08, 2007, 05:56:13 AM
I pointed it out, but now I just went back and bolded it so that its more noticeable.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on June 12, 2007, 04:25:23 PM
DS Sales from launch till begining of September Media create
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12/20-12/26 | 396,674
12/27- 1/02 | 209,522
1/03- 1/09 | 108,561
1/10- 1/16 | 53,527
1/17- 1/23 | 44,608
1/24- 1/30 | 43,226
1/31- 2/06 | 29,552
2/07- 2/13 | 26,205



I was just picking through the old data to get some things settled and ran across this.  Sort of reminds me of another system now.  Which is doing better then its precessor ironically enough.  Though I do have to say they probably won't have a non-gamer revolution on there hands.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 14, 2007, 03:46:12 AM
UK Analysts Screen Digest reveal the DS's worldwide install base at...
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As at the end of Q1 2007, Nintendo DS had an installed base of 38 million across the PAL region, Japan and the US compared with 20 million for Sony PSP. Nintendo has confirmed to Screen Digest that the global installed base as at the end of May 2007 is in excess of 41m. Screen Digest forecast no substantive change in respective hardware buy rates and believe that at the end of 2011, Nintendo DS will have an installed base of 112 million and PSP, 67 million.

The DS may be able to hit that target, but I don't believe that the PSP will hit 67 million. Sales are dead in Japan, solid-but-definitely-not-=spectacular in the US, and behind the DS once again in Europe. I think the PSP will have the same problem that the XBox 360 has (exclusively appealing to a hardcore segment only) with an additional compounding problem (low games sales...like wow). Maybe more like 45 - 50 million worldwide would be a better number for them?

Also revealed:
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Of DS gamers in Europe 54% are female (compared with 40% for PSP).
...
In addition GameVision research also reveals that 52% of European DS owners are 14 years old and under (compared with 28% for PSP), the youngest profile of any platform, demonstrating the importance of pricing a handheld such that parents are not deterred from purchasing on behalf of their offspring.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on June 16, 2007, 10:39:18 AM
Welp common logic would state that their wouldn't be that many female game system owners...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 17, 2007, 10:18:27 AM
Maybe Europe is special?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 20, 2007, 07:38:49 AM
OMG Someone blow the trumpets!!!! PS3 charted for the first time in a long time.
And it made it into the Top 3 360 manages to still out sell it

Famitsu Top 10 June 11-17 07:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...73729,0,0.html

1. DS Observation Training (NDS) - 250k LTD
2. Trusty Bell - Chopin's Dream (360) - 43,592
3. Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PS3) - 40,886
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. More Brain Training (NDS)
6. More English Training (NDS)
7. Wii Play (Wii)
8. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS)
9. Brain Training (NDS)  <---Look who's back for more!!!
10. Hisshou Pachinko - Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (PS2)

Call of Duty 3 (PS3) - 15k
Dead Rising budget re-release (360)- 3k

DS - 140k
Wii - 70,356
PS3 - 11,012
360 - 7,654

There are 4 separate trainings in the Top 10, and the only one I think is missing is the original English Training.    

This week should be a big one for DS
as this is whats coming out this weekend:

Zelda Phantom Hourglass
DS Lite (Gloss Silver) - 75k
DS Lite (Metallic Rose) - 75k
Plus the regular shipment of DS' of around 150k
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on June 20, 2007, 07:50:11 AM
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There are 4 separate trainings in the Top 10, and the only one I think is missing is the original English Training.
You forgot Common Sense Training.  I think there might be a couple other smaller ones, too.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2007, 07:10:51 AM
Looks like Nintendo has done it again, and all they had to do was release some new colors for the DS

dengekionline
famitsu.com
more from famitsu

I expect DS to reach around 250k+ on next weeks charts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 23, 2007, 05:18:52 AM
It should be called Engrish training.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2007, 06:40:30 AM
Famitsu 6/18 - 6/24

1. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) - 290,000
2. Itadaki Street DS (Square-Enix) - 140,000
3. Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (Nintendo) - 50,000
4. Growlanser VI (Atlus)
5. Wii Sports (Nintendo)
6. Hajime no Ippo: Revolution (AQ Interactive) - 25,480
7. Mana-Khemia: The School Alchemists (Gust)
8. More English Training (Nintendo)
9. More Brain Age (Nintendo)
10. Wii Play (Nintendo)

Folks Soul (PS3) - 16,629
Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PS3) - 12,264
Saints Row (360) - 9,036

DS - 166,362
Wii - 66,357
PS3 - 9,665
360 - 4,058

DS sales seem really really low compared to the supposed shipment #'s, and the same can be said with the the Zelda sales #'s too. I expected DS to sell more than 250k this week and Zelda was reported to have done more than 350k in its first 2 days.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 27, 2007, 12:43:08 PM
Nintendo's failure in Japan is becoming more apparent each week.

(that was sarcasm, in case you couldn't tell)

But seriously, maybe the DS completely sold out?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on June 28, 2007, 08:11:19 AM
For a second I had flashbacks to Mario's classic posts...

With Ninja Gaiden and Folks Soul hitting the top 20 in rapid succession, can the revival of PS3 be far off?

Those Zelda numbers are still pretty decent, I think...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2007, 08:23:28 AM
Actually they are really good considering that its only for the 1st day of sales and the original shipment was for 400k copies. Zelda TP still hasn't hit 500k in Japan and PH might just get there within a week in a re-stock happens today.

p.s. PH was released on a Saturday.

Folks Soul will continue to drop like new albums from 2Pac and NGS will be off the charts by next week. There will be veirtually no change in PS3 hardware sales this week or next, and everyone will be waiting to see if Everybody Golf 5(or whatever its called) manages to make a blip on the PS3 radar.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 28, 2007, 02:08:20 PM
Isn't Zelda really not that popular over Japan anyway? Still, I would hope it can at least sell a million. It is a DS game, after all...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on June 28, 2007, 09:09:34 PM
That's Metroid you're thinking of.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on June 28, 2007, 09:32:59 PM
TP probably hasn't reached a million in Japan KDR. And WW moved like 900k... so yes. Zelda could be considered "on a decline" in Japan, and Nintendo has spoken out to that effect. That's why Miyamoto gave his sister (and through her, non/casual-gamers) a shout out when talking about PH. He's hoping that PH is the Zelda game to expand the series' stagnating audience.

And it looks like PH is off to a good start! I read somewhere that PH actually didn't sell out first day, but over several days, as if casual and non-gamers were trickling in after the hardcore gamers had front-loaded first day sales.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 04, 2007, 10:52:01 AM
Famtisu June 25th - July 1st Top 10
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...74551,0,0.html

1. Super Robot Wars OG: Original Generations (PS2) - 300K
2. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (NDS) - 160,604 448,886)
3. Itadaki Street DS (NDS) - 68,849 209,409)
4. Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (NDS)
5. Tales of Fandom Vol. 2 (PS2) - 50K
6. Rachet and Clank 5 (PSP) - 40k
7. Wii Sports (Wii)
8. Kiku! Kaku! Kotoba o Fuyasu! Hajimete no Eigo Training (NDS)
9. Donkey Kong Jet Race (Wii) - 25k
10. Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Frame Rumble Gaikyoushuu (NDS)


DS - 150k
Wii - 70k
PSP - 40K
PS2 - 20K
PS3 - ?

Zelda: PH is doing really good and so is Itadaki Street. Zelda PH is on its way to outsell Zelda: TP and its only in its second week.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 07, 2007, 03:22:34 AM
You used the quick parser I made...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 06:32:33 AM
Just taking the name string and linking to the 'Pedia is pointless since the ones you'd want to know about aren't listed on there anyway.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on July 09, 2007, 11:48:04 AM
Ratchet and Clank 5 - the Japanese know how to name their damn sequels!  Why when I was a kid, etc...

I'm glad to see Phantom Hourglass doing well.  I hope the game's success (and by extension, design) inspires some interesting stuff in the next Zelda for Wii.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on July 18, 2007, 06:22:09 AM
Famitsu Top 10 July 9-15
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...75445,0,0.html

1. Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii) - 302,066 (#1 Best selling 1st week Wii Title)
2. Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (NDS) - 70,610 (602,244)
3. My Housekeeping Diary (NDS) - 50k
4. Wii Sports (Wii) - 1.8 million+ LTD
5. Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (NDS)
6. Rockman ZX Advent (NDS)
7. Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol (NDS)
8. Super Robot Wars: Original Generations (PS2)
9. Wii Play (Wii)
10. Monster Farm DS (NDS)

xx. Soroban DS - 15k
xx. Boku no Natsuyasumi 3 (PS3) - 9,567?36,775?

DSL - 135,791
Wii - 104,897
PSP - 32,935
PS2 - 17,041
PS3 - 14,143 <---On the rise 3 weeks in a row
360 - 3,640  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 18, 2007, 09:10:41 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Just taking the name string and linking to the 'Pedia is pointless since the ones you'd want to know about aren't listed on there anyway.


Thats surprisingly untrue a lot of the time.  Anyway I had it linked to a variety of sources when I first wrote the thing which covered it will be everyone said it was too busy.

Did the PS3 get a Japanese price cut as well?
Also Swords is posed to give Phantom Hourglass some company.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 18, 2007, 07:36:59 PM
Looks like we almost had another complete Nintendomination of the top 10s in Japan this week.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 18, 2007, 08:08:08 PM
I think its Top 13 Nintendomination in the MC thread over in the Wii section.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 18, 2007, 10:02:01 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I think its Top 13 Nintendomination in the MC thread over in the Wii section.


Wow, well you are right. Why this inconsistency?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2007, 05:38:46 AM
HIstorically Famitsu is "undertracking" and the numbers will be adjusted over the next week or two.
Most people that track the sales usually go by MC, and use Famitsu as a backup/alternative source.

Either way, you just have to pick one source and go by thier #'s to keep things consistent.

Thats why SalesBot post Famitsu in the DS sales thread and MC in the Wii sales thread.

edited: because MC updated their #'s
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on July 22, 2007, 08:42:29 PM
As accurate of a tracking site as you are going to get (Famitsu based)

All Japanese Releases listed by System:

Nintendo DS
Nintendo Wii
Sony PS2
Sony PSP
Sony PS3
Microsoft Xbox360

More system charts linked at the bottom of any linked page
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on July 25, 2007, 03:48:44 PM
Famitsu July 16th - 22nd

1. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball 14 - 147993 / NEW
2. Wii Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors - 66725 / 368791
3. Wii Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball Wii - 46280 / NEW
4. DS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 45546 / 647790
5. Wii Wii Sports - 34843 / 1783740
6. DS Mushi King Super Collection - 31872 / NEW
7. DS Naruto Shippuuden: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 5 - 28290 / NEW
8. DS Observation Training - 24689 / 447833
9. Wii Wii Play - 23678 / 1377663
10. DS My Housekeeping Diary - 21202 / 71752

11. DS Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol - 18316 / 96214
12. DS More English Training - 18086 / 418978
13. DS New Super Mario Bros. - 17971 / 4660374
14. DS Detective Saburou Jinguuji DS: Ancient Memory - 17664 / NEW
15. DS Brain Training 2 - 16817 / 4525268
16. DS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 16010 / 5241515
17. DS Mario Kart DS - 16006 / 2297820
18. DS Animal Crossing: Wild World - 15775 / 4230675
19. DS English Training - 12427 / 1906915
20. DS Brain Training - 11863 / 3428105
21. DS Itadaki Street DS - 11464 / 269027
22. PS2 Super Robot Wars: OG - 11311 / 417430
23. DS Mega Man ZX Advent - 10713 / 38347
24. DS Saiyuki: Gold and Silver Conspiracy - 8983 / 20136
25. Wii Momotarou Dentetsu 16: Trip to Hokkaido! - 8058 / NEW
26. DS Kirarin * Revolution: Mezase! Idol Queen - 7729 / 23823
27. DS Kaite Shabette Hajimeyou! Monster Farm DS - 7437 / 27589
28. DS Kanji Brain - 7144 / 493592
29. DS Yoshi's Island DS - 7050 / 810398
30. DS Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan - 6829 / 276964

DS - 143,490
Wii - 75,680
PSP - 29,260
PS2 - 16,230
PS3 - 13,440
360 - 2,770      
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on July 29, 2007, 01:08:28 AM
6 months worth of Famitsu data

January 1 - July 1, 2007 Japanese Famitsu Sales

1. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 1,231,624
2. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 1,128,701 / 1,681,915
3. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond + Pearl - 893,743 / 5,196,558
4. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 810,616 / 1,313,801
5. (DS, Nintendo) Yoshi's Island DS - 788,530
6. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 787,813 / 4,606,027
7. (DS, Square Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker - 765,365 / 1,398,449
8. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age 2 - 724,724 / 4,473,362
9. (PS2, Koei) Musou Orochi - 627,756
10. (DS, Level 5) Professor Layton and the Mysterious Town - 586,676

11. (DS, Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training - 532,325 / 1,448,925
12. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing: Wild World - 530,157 / 4,185,178
13. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings - 505,543
14. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 464,847 / 2,249,504
15. (DS, Nintendo) Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - 455,540
16. (Wii, Nintendo) Super Paper Mario - 449,393
17. (DS, Nintendo) The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 448,886
18. (PS2, Capcom) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 399,837
19. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age - 387,367 / 3,389,824
20. (DS, Nintendo) More English Training - 365,448

21. (DS, Nintendo) Flash Focus: Vision Training - 352,823
22. (DS, Nintendo) English Training - 339,192 / 1,868,810
23. (PS2, Banpresto) Super Robot Wars OG Original Generations - 332,373
24. (DS, Capcom) Megaman Starforce Dragon/Pegasus/Leo - 312,696 / 531,867
25. (DS, Bandai Namco) Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan DS - 308,786
26. (PS2, Square Enix) Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ - 301,830
27. (DS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 296,570 / 994,703
28. (PSP, Square Enix) Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions - 282,770
29. (DS, Nintendo) Kaitou Wario the Seven - 280,981
30. (PS3, Bandai Namco) Gundam Musou - 277,582

31. (DS, Banpresto) Super Robot Wars W - 276,186
32. (DS, Nintendo) Mario vs Donkey Kong 2 - 269,128
33. (Wii, Nintendo) Wario Ware Smooth Moves - 265,868 / 462,634
34. (DS, Nintendo) Picross DS - 255,164
35. (DS, Hudson) Momotarou Dentetsu DS TOKYO & JAPAN - 254,993
36. (DS, Marvelous Interactive) Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On - 250,580
37. (DS, IE Institute) Tokoton Kanji Brain - 249,758
38. (DS, Rocket Company) Kanken DS - 230,233 / 451,417
39. (Wii, Nintendo) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 220,800 / 506,074
40. (DS, Square Enix) Itadaki Street DS - 209,409

41. (DS, Nintendo) Hotel Dusk - 206,262
42. (DS, Sega) Love and Berry Collection - 199,877 / 978,611
43. (DS, Nintendo) Jump Ultimate Stars - 195,390 / 743,864
44. (Wii, Nintendo) Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree - 193,560
45. (DS, Nintendo) Cooking Recipe 1000 DS - 192,114
46. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 4 - 184,824
47. (DS, Shogakukan) Kageyama Method Dennou Hanpuku: Masu x Masu Hyaku Masu Keisan - 182,305
48. (PS2, Kadokawa Shoten) Fate Stay Night - 182,182
49. (DS, Nintendo) Nintendogs (Shiba/Chihuahua/Dach) - 179,119 / 1,587,007
50. (PS2, Sega) Yakuza PS2 The Best - 175,122 / 450,462

51. (PS2, Sega) J.LEAGUE Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou! 5 - 174,906
52. (DS, Nintendo) Ouendan 2 - 173,151
53. (PS2, Bandai Namco) .hack//G.U. Vol. 3 - 168,562
54. (DS, Nintendo) Tetris DS - 167,279 / 1,152,525
55. (DS, Bandai Namco) Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight - 165,622
56. (PSP, Konami) Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - 162,738 / 357,161
57. (DS, Sega) Sangokushi Taisen DS - 161,493
58. (PS2, Atlus) Persona 3 Fes - 159,431
59. (DS, EA) Sim City DS - 158,230
60. (Wii, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 157,784

61. (DS, Spike) IQ Supplement DS - 153,626
62. (Wii, Nintendo) Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn - 153,397
63. (DS, Bandai Namco) Heisei Board of Education DS - 150,266
64. (Wii, Pokemon) Pokemon Battle Revolution - 147,679
65. (DS, Sega) Puyo Puyo! - 143,185
66. (PS2, Bandai Namco) Naruto Narutimate Ancel - 140,547
67. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable PSP The Best - 136,441 / 290,628
68. (DS, Bandai Namco) Dragon Ball Z Harukanaru Densetsu - 136,441
69. (PS2, Sega) Shining Force Ikusa - 130,763
70. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Gundam SEED Federation vs ZAFT Portable - 122,652

71. (DS, Bandai Namco) Tamagotchi no Appare! Niji-Venture - 122,084
72. (PS2, Sega) Shining Wind - 121,800
73. (DS, Atlus) Etrian Odyssey - 119,584
74. (DS, Nintendo) Cooking Navi - 118,521 / 809,528
75. (PSP, Square Enix) Final Fantasy - 117,689
76. (DS, Nintendo) Planet Puzzle League - 117,414
77. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Tales of Destiny 2 - 113,984
78. (PS2, Alchemist) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri - 112,859
79. (PS2, Hackberry) - Pachinko Sonata - 107,629
80. (PS2, Sega) Yakuza 2 - 107,537 / 572,917

81. (DS, Banpresto) Crayon Shinchan DS - 107,127
82. (PS2, Square Enix) Dawn of Mana - 104,790 / 334,314
83. (DS, Bandai Namco) Machigai Museum 2 - 103,262
84. (GBA, Pokemon) Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green - 102,433
85. (DS, Sega) Bleach DS 2nd - 102,055
86. (DS, IE Institute) TOEIC TEST DS Training - 101,175
87. (DS, Nintendo) Magic Taizen - 98,718
88. (Wii, Takara Tomy) Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX - 97,123
89. (PS2, D3 Publisher) Hissatsu Pachinko Vol. 10 - 96,398
90. (DS, Nintendo) Big Brain Academy - 95,743 / 1,426,671

91. (Wii, Bandai Namco) One Piece Unlimited Adventure - 95,203
92. (DS, MTO) Nodame Cantabile - 94,528
93. (DS, Konami) Death Note - 93,743
94. (GBA, Pokemon) Pokemon Emerald - 92,232 / 1,947,383
95. (DS, MTO) Ochaken no Heya DS 2 - 91,060
96. (PS2, Atlus) Odin Sphere - 90,232
97. (PS3, Sega) Virtua Fighter 5 - 89,146
98. (Wii, Capcom) Biohazard 4 Wii Edition - 88,367
99. (DS, Capcom) Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Justice for All - 87,849
100. (PSP, Konami) Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable 2 - 86,783


Hardware Title Ranking

1. Nintendo DS - 57
2. PlayStation 2 - 19
3. Wii - 12
4. PSP - 8
5. Game Boy Advance/ PlayStation 3 - 2 each

Top 5 Systems by Total Software LTD

1. Nintendo DS - 16,135,686
2. Wii - 3,809,378
3. PlayStation 2 - 3,719,378
4. PlayStation Portable - 2,254,957
5. PlayStation 3 - 366,728

# of Games Sold by System (Currently in no order):
Wii- 12 games
DS- 57 games
GBA- 2 games
PS3- 2 games
PS2- 19 games
PSP- 8 games

# First Party Games Split by Company:
Nintendo: 37
Sony: 0

First to Third Party Number and Ratios by Company:
34 out of 71 or 47% of games Published for a Nintendo System were 3rd Party.
29 out of 29 or 100% of games Published for a Sony System were 3rd Party.

Legend:
Game- Nintendo System
Game- Sony System
Game- Microsoft System

Disclaimer: All of the above non-Famitsu links and data were auto-generated from the Famitsu Data.  Therefore the accuracy of the links have not been verified.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on August 01, 2007, 08:13:55 PM
Famitsu July 23rd - 29th

1. [Wii] Mario Party 8 - 280,000
2. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 - 176,000
3. [NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS - 90,000
4. [NDS] Its a Wonderful World - 81,000
5. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 14 - 53,000?~200,000?
6. [360] Oblivion - 45,000
7. [Wii] Gundam MS 0079 - 44,000
8. [PSP] GTA LCS - 39,000
9. [Wii] Dragon Quest Swords - 32,000?~400,000?
10. [NDS] Zelda Phantom Hourglass - 32,000 (~680,000?

13. PS2 ????14 - 24,000
14. --- MGS BOX - 24,000
18. PS2 KOF Maximum Impact A - 18,000
20. PS3 Wangan Midnight - 18,000
25. PS2 Shake II - 16,000
30. PSP Piposaru Daisakusen - 13,000
... NDS Simple DS Vol 18 Gunground - 2,600
... ??? Major League - 1,600
... Wii Dewy's Adventure - 1,200
... Wii Guilty Gear - 900
... ??? ????? - 650

Wii 70,000
PS3 38,000
PS2 14,000
360 3,800
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on August 04, 2007, 08:21:33 AM
Famitsu first day sales

PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 7 - 85,000
Wii Forever Blue - 10,000
NDS Face Training - 10,000

PSP Goku Makaimura Kai - <1k
NDS Mag Kid - <1k
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on August 05, 2007, 09:16:18 PM
Wow.. mag kid bombed?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on August 08, 2007, 04:56:30 AM
Famitsu July 30th - Aug. 5th

1. WII Mario Party 8 147084 / 429473
2. PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship 136530 / NEW
3. PS3 Minna no Golf 5 43270 / 219020
4. NDS It's a Wonderful World 40926 / 122252
5. WII Wii Sports 27391 / 1840979
6. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball 14 25257 / 226157
7. WII Wii Play 24859 / 1428207
8. NDS Facening Training 22526 / NEW
9. NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 21647 / 701541
10. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 21524 / 4702056
11. NDS Brain Training 2 21418 / 4566749
12. WII Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors 19339 / 420263
13. NDS Mario Kart DS 19268 / 2334982
14. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 18689 / 4266849
15. PSP GTA: Liberty City Stories 18129 / 56814
16. NDS Itadaki Street DS 17887 / 304892
17. WII Forever Blue 17567 / NEW
18. NDS More English Training 16922 / 454073
19. NDS Observation Training 15908 / 487093
20. WII Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 15489 / 59148
21. NDS Taiko Drum Master 15018 / 104176
22. NDS English Training 11666 / 1932114
23. NDS Naruto Shippuuden: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 5 11606 / 54471
24. NDS Brain Training 11171 / 3453663
25. 360 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 10165 / 55662
26. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 10027 / 1265380
27. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 9963 / 5264580
28. PS2 Pachi-Para 14: Wind, Clouds, and the Super Sea in Okinawa 9260 / 33712
29. WII Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball Wii 8408 / 72388
30. NDS Mushi King Super Collection 8253 / 51058

DS - 140,000
Wii - 63,000
PSP - 30,000
PS3 - 22,000
PS2 - 15,000
360 - 3,300  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 10, 2007, 03:16:59 AM
Viva la face training!
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on August 15, 2007, 09:52:10 PM
Famitsu Top 10 Aug 6-12 07:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...76699,0,0.html

1. SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Drive (NDS, Bandai Namco) - 130,000
2. Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo) - 110,000 (~540,000)
3. Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (PS2, Square Enix) - 50,000
4. J. League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship (PS2, Konami) - 46,000 (~180,000)
5. Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (NDS, Nintendo) - 38,000
6. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo)
7. Wild Arms: Crossfire (PSP, Sony) - 29,000
8. Everybody's Golf 5 (PS3, Sony) - 27,000 (~250,000)
9. Hajimete no Wii [Wii Play] (Wii, Nintendo)
10. Wantame Uranai Channel (NDS, Capcom) - 24,000
11. Its a Wonderful World - 23,000 (~150,000)
20. My Housekeeping Diary - 16,000 (~93,000)
24. Dragon Quest Swords - 14,000 (~430,000)
... Itsuwari no Rondo - 3,700
... Acagi - 900

DS - 150,000
Wii - 63,000
PSP - 26,000
PS3 - 24,000
PS2 - 14,000
360 - 2,800
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on August 22, 2007, 04:10:49 PM
Famitsu Top 10 Aug 13-19 07:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...76872,0,0.html

1. Mario Party 8 (Wii) 116000 (~660000)
2. SD Gundam: G Generation Cross Drive (NDS) 55000 (~180000)
3. Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (NDS) 43000 (~81000)
4. J-League Winning Eleven 2007: Club Championship (PS2) 38000 (~220000)
5. Wii Sports (Wii) 37000 (~1910000)
6. Wii Play (Wii)
7. My Housekeeping Diary (NDS) 28000 (~122000)
8. Final Fantasy XII: International Edition (PS2) 26000 (~76000)
9. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS)
10. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (NDS)

13. Hot Shots Golf 5 23000 (~270000)
16. It's a Wonderful World 18000 (~163000)
23. Dragon Quest Swords 12000 (~447000)

DS 164000
Wii 70000
PSP 30000
PS3 21000
PS2 17000
360 2900
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on August 28, 2007, 06:08:55 AM
Kind of nice to see Junlge Climber doing well.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on August 30, 2007, 05:22:19 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Kind of nice to see Junlge Climber doing well.


I think you mean doing okay.  Less than 100,000 units sold is not doing well.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 30, 2007, 11:12:41 PM
Probably within expectations for the sequel to a game that wasn't even brought to the US because of limited appeal.

Also, as long as it stays in the charts the number's not final.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on August 31, 2007, 04:10:03 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Probably within expectations for the sequel to a game that wasn't even brought to the US because of limited appeal.


Umm... what?  DK: King of Swing was released here in the states... what are you talking about?

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 01, 2007, 12:29:25 AM
It was? I thought I heard it was skipped or at least delayed forever or something...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on September 01, 2007, 02:07:28 AM
No... it's been out for awhile... I promise... I've got it.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on September 05, 2007, 05:03:59 PM
Famitsu 08/27-09/02

1. NDS Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates - 77,000 (~284,000)
2. PS3 Bladestorm - 63,000 (over 90% sold through)
3. PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 Mushoden - 58,000 (~233,000)
4. Wii Mario Party 8 - 43,000 (~752,000)
5. PS2 Gintama Gin-San to Issho! Boku no Kabuki Machi Nikki - 35,000
6. NDS One Piece Gear Spirit - 30,000
7. NDS Gyakuten Saiban 3 - 27,000 (~92,000)
8. NDS My Housekeeping Diary - 21,000 (~166,000)
9. NDS Summon Night Twin Age: Seireitachi no Kyoumei - 21,000

12. PS2 Beatmania II DX13 DistorteD - 17,000
21. PS3 Minna no Golf 5 - 12,000 (~295,000)
23. PS2 Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn! Dream Hyper Battle - 11,000
24. NDS Zelda Phantom Hourglass - 11,000 (~771,000)
... 360 Hitman Blood Money - 5,500
... NDS Oni Zero: Sengoku Ransei Hyakkaryouran - 1,600

DSL - 101,000
Wii - 48,000
PSP - 22,000
PS3 - 17,000
PS2 - 16,000
360 - 2,000
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 05, 2007, 05:19:16 PM
Good numbers for FF:CC:ROF. Stick in there! And you too Zelda!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stogi on September 06, 2007, 05:05:14 AM
Don't worry about Zelda, Kairon. Once the holiday season starts to pick up, it'll go platinum easy.

Mark my words.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mrdigz on September 07, 2007, 07:00:14 AM
if there are more ff games coming out there are ff addicts that will get a ds just to get that game.. i know bout 12 ppl who will, unlike me where i won my nintendo ds off a can of dr pepper lol  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 07, 2007, 07:25:39 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mrdigz
if there are more ff games coming out there are ff addicts that will get a ds just to get that game.. i know bout 12 ppl who will, unlike me where i won my nintendo ds off a can of dr pepper lol


You... won that? /faints
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stogi on September 07, 2007, 08:01:43 AM
You....drink dr. pepper? /pukes /on /kairon


(how does that slant work anyways?)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: that Baby guy on September 07, 2007, 08:11:55 AM
I think you did it right.

Anyways, I don't think I could drink Dr. Pepper.  I've tried it an Mr. Pibb, and neither are very tasty.  I guess I'd go through a can if I new I'd win something valuable.  I'd just need some kind of thing that lets you see through things.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 07, 2007, 08:13:07 AM
I actually like Dr. Pepper. Sorta fruity. Sorta neat.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 07, 2007, 08:34:58 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KashogiStogi
You....drink dr. pepper? /pukes /on /kairon


(how does that slant work anyways?)


/action target

I don't typically drink Dr Pepper anymore, but I still like the good stuff made with real cane sugar.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on September 08, 2007, 12:47:34 AM
Actually it should be /me, in IRC that makes your username get displayed as part of the sentence you're saying. E.g. /me is explaining /me:

* KDR_11k is explaining /me

Over time the /me got lost and people just write /verb.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mashiro on September 08, 2007, 05:34:18 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Actually it should be /me, in IRC that makes your username get displayed as part of the sentence you're saying. E.g. /me is explaining /me:

* KDR_11k is explaining /me

Over time the /me got lost and people just write /verb.


The whole /verb thing comes from online gaming
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on September 09, 2007, 05:34:04 AM
Ooops. Looks like I somehow skipped a week in Famitsu sales.

Famitsu Aug. 20-26

1. (DS) Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates 206439 / NEW
2. (PS2) Sengoku Musou 2: Moushouden 175598 / NEW
3. (DS) Phoenix Wright 3 (BEST) 64860 / NEW
4. (Wii) Mario Party 8 49539 / 709166
5. (DS) My Housekeeping Diary 22876 / 144816
6. (PS2) J-League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship 22005 / 242793
7. (Wii) Wii Sports 21509 / 1931927
8. (DS) Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber 21085 / 101825
9. (PSP) Dragoneer's Aria 20360 / NEW
10. (DS) SD Gundam G-Generation Cross Drive 20084 / 201513
11. (Wii) Wii Play 17899 / 1502185
12. (DS) Hayate no Gotoku! I am Romeo, and Romeo is I 16876 / NEW
13. (DS) Animal Crossing: Wild World 16171 / 4322622
14. (DS) New Super Mario Bros. 15869 / 4764302
15. (DS) Mario Kart DS 15593 / 2392893
16. (DS) Brain Training 2 13990 / 4625006
17. (PS2) Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac 13870 / 89874
18. (DS) More English Training 13736 / 501445
19. (PS3) Minna no Golf 5 13704 / 283279
21. (DS) Observation Training 12765 / 537334
22. (DS) Bikkuriman Encyclopedia 11958 / NEW
23. (DS) English Training 10660 / 1968438
24. (DS) Brain Training 9272 / 3493586
25. (PS2) Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball 14 9259 / 270843
26. (DS) Itadaki Street DS 9147 / 348890
27. (DS) It's a Wonderful World 8232 / 171629
28. (DS) Facening Training 6974 / 51263
29. (PSP) GTA: Liberty City Stories 6881 / 86464
30. (Wi)i Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors 6717 / 453445
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 11, 2007, 06:21:28 AM
That's not very robotic of you!  Good to see Final Fantasy: CC: ROF doing well, I think.  And My Housekeeping Diary?  Is there no end to the non-game craziness?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on September 12, 2007, 05:25:43 PM
Famitsu 09/3 -09/09

1. PS2 Another Century Episode 3 - 157,000
2. NDS Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates - 33,000 (~317,000)
3. Wii Mario Party 8 - 28,000 (~780,000)
4. PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 Mushouden - 24,000 (~258,000)
5. PS3 Bladestorm - 22,000 (~85,000)
6. PS2 Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories - 17,000
...
9. NDS My Housekeeping Diary - 15,000 (~181,000)
10. NDS Gyakuten Saiban 3 - 14,000 (~106,000)
...
13. NDS Gundam Mahjong - 12,000
...
17. PS3 Minna no Golf 5 - 10,000 (~305,000?
...
25. NDS Zelda Phantom Hourglass - 7,000 (~778,000?
.... PSP Rezel Cross - 3,300
.... NDS Theta - 2,100
.... PS3 Yamasa Digi World SP: Pachi-Slot Sengoku Musou - 1,300

DSL - 79,000
Wii - 38,000
PSP - 16,000
PS3 - 14,000
PS2 - 13,000
360 - 1,800
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 14, 2007, 04:51:58 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
That's not very robotic of you!  Good to see Final Fantasy: CC: ROF doing well, I think.  And My Housekeeping Diary?  Is there no end to the non-game craziness?


Not in Japan.... but why aren't we getting it? /sad
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on September 17, 2007, 05:54:47 AM
Zelda's sales are sinking.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2007, 11:14:11 AM
They truly are sick of Zelda.

The only reason it sold that much is it was cel-shaded, but even that's a fad.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mashiro on September 17, 2007, 02:10:53 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
They truly are sick of Zelda.

The only reason it sold that much is it was cel-shaded, but even that's a fad.


Japanese gamers are weird . . .

tired of Zelda games yet Pokemon can remain relatively unchanged for 10 years and it still sells like crazy.

Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2007, 03:00:58 PM
Pokemon has a cartoon along with a merchandise-related shopping addiction that ties into the franchise.

Zelda is just a game nobody wants.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on September 17, 2007, 05:15:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Pokemon has a cartoon along with a merchandise-related shopping addiction that ties into the franchise.


Yep, the movies are still one of the largest, domestic, box office draws in the country. In fact, the Mew and Lucario flick was the #1 domestic film in the country the year it was released.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on September 17, 2007, 05:31:56 PM
How did the Animal Crossing movie do?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2007, 06:46:53 PM
ahahahhahahaha Animal Crossers don't battle each other.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on September 19, 2007, 05:02:42 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Sept 10-16:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1210637_1124.html

1. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 583713 / NEW
2. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 470152 / NEW
3. PSP Fate/Tiger Colosseum 53167 / NEW
4. PS2 Another Century's Episode 3: The Final 40445 / 197138
5. NDS Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates 21787 / 338757
6. WII Mario Party 8 20933 / 800653
7. NDS Taiko Drum Master 19231 / 125198
8. WII Wii Sports 14026 / 1981941
9. NDS My Housekeeping Diary 13659 / 194263
10. PS2 Sengoku Musou 2: Moushouden 13502 / 271121

11. NDS Brain Training 2 13174 / 4667114
12. WII Wii Play 12402 / 1549123
13. NDS Mario Kart DS 12058 / 2432133
14. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 12015 / 4803879
15. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 11849 / 4361753
16. PS2 GTA: Liberty City Stories 11527 / 28871
17. NDS Brain Training 11445 / 3524621
18. PS3 Bladestorm 11400 / 96346
19. NDS Phoenix Wright 3 (BEST) 10846 / 116559
20. NDS Observation Training 9943 / 567840
21. PS2 Jissen Pachinko Hisshouhou! CR Sakura Taisen 9899 / NEW
22. NDS More English Training 9836 / 534791
23. PS3 Minna no Golf 5 8896 / 314261
24. NDS English Training 8203 / 1995540
25. PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 2007 Club Championship 7992 / 276819
26. NDS Gakken DS: Shin TOEIC Test Kanzen Kouryaku 7676 / NEW
27. NDS Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber 6232 / 131603
28. NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 6048 / 784290
29. NDS One Piece: Gear Spirit 6020 / 47504
30. NDS SD Gundam G-Generation Cross Drive 5586 / 227167

PSP 99,000
DSL 74,000
Wii 30,000
PS2 14,000
PS3 12,000
360 1,700

PSP on top?
Wii at an all time low?
Tune into the Wii Sales thread on thursday for more.    
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 19, 2007, 07:15:35 AM
Yet Pokemon is still #1 game, beating out a FFVII game.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on September 19, 2007, 07:42:04 AM
It's only because of the PSP Lite.  Things will go back to normal next week...maybe.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on September 19, 2007, 07:46:30 AM
It's because of Crisis Core, not PSP Slim.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on September 26, 2007, 05:18:40 AM
Famitsu  Sept 17th - 23rd:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1210814_1124.html

1. [NDS] Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 - 176000 (760,000)
2. [PSP] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7?133,000 (903,000)
3. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid PO + - 89,000
4. [Wii] Mario Strikers Charged - 33,000
5. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn!! -  25,000
6. [Wii] Mario Party 8 - 19,000 (819,000)
7. [PS2] Kiniro no Corda 2 Anchor - 18,000
8. [PS2] Another Century's Episode 3: The Final
9. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid PO + (Deluxe Pack) - 15,000
10. [NDS] Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles - Ring of Fates - 14,000 (353,000)

14. DS Housekeeping?13,000 (207,000)
16. Sengoku Musou Katana?12,000
24. PW3?8200 ?125000?
25. Fate/tiger?8200 ?61000?
26. MinGol5?7900 ?322000?
27. Nanatsu Iro?7800
30. Bladestorm?7400 ?104000?
--. Burnout PS2?6200
--. Deltora Quest?3600
--. Burnout PSP?3100
--. R-Type Tactics?2900
--. Elemental Monsters?1600
--. Madden NFL?1300
--. Dinosaur Monsters?700
--. Zero Yon?600
--. Gatchapin?600

PSP - 264,000 <---WOW!!
DS - 67,000
PS2 - 13,000
PS3 - 11,000
Wii - 27,000
360 - 1,800
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on September 26, 2007, 09:14:42 AM
Oh snap.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 01, 2007, 04:52:21 AM
Famitsu Software Sales 0101/2007 - 08/16/2007

by Publisher

1.) Nintendo Co.: 14.052.000 (41.4%)
- [1.) Nintendo Co. + The Pokémon Company: 15.662.000 (46.1%)]
2.) SquareEnix: 3.907.000 (11.5%)
3.) Bandai Namco: 3.523.000 (10.4%)
4.) Capcom: 2.943.000 (8.7%)
5.) The Pokémon Company: 1.610.000 (4.7%)
6.) Konami: 1.260.000 (3.7%)
7.) Sega: 1.041.000 (3.1%)
8.) Koei: 1.008.000 (3.0%)
9.) Level 5: 594.000 (1.7%)
10.) SCE: 547.000 (1.6%)
11.) IE Institute: 426.000 (1.3%)
12.) Hudson: 330.000 (1.0%)
13.) Atlas: 315.000 (0.9%)
14.) Marvelous Interactive: 277.000 (0.8%)
15.) Spike: 229.000 (0.7%)
16.) Rocket Company: 209.000 (0.6%)
17.) Kadokawa Publishing Co., Ltd.: 191.000 (0.6%)
18.) Takara Tomy: 173.000 (0.5%)
19.) D3 Publisher: 121.000 (0.4%)
20.) EA: 117.000 (0.3%)

by System

1.) NDS: 19.145.000 (58.1%)
2.) Wii: 5.363.000 (17.3%)
3.) PS2: 5.212.000 (15.8%)
4.) PSP: 3.056.000 (9.3%)
5.) PS3: 934.000 (2.8%)
6.) 360: 205.000 (0.6%)
7.) DC: 13.000 (0.0%)

*These are all software sales seperated by Publisher and then by System.*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Michael8983 on October 02, 2007, 07:17:42 AM
Yes, CLEARLY Nintendo is losing its dominance in Japan *sarcasm*
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 03, 2007, 04:25:24 AM
Famitsu Top 10 Sept 24-30:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1210972_1124.html

1. DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 97309 / 857211
2. 360 Halo 3 61143 / NEW
3. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 61001 / 663820
4. DS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 48319 / NEW
5. PSP MGS: Portable Ops+ 40933 / 129873
6. PS2 Bleach Blade Battlers 2 31676 / NEW
7. PSP Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force 2 30168 / NEW
8. PSP Eiyuu Densetsu Sora no Kiseki SC 25881 / NEW
9. PS2 Hisshou Pachinko*Pachi-Slot Kouryoku Series Vol. 11: Shinseiki Evangelion: Magokoro 24294 / NEW
10. PS2 Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus 24141 / NEW
11. DS Kanji Quiz DS 2 23100 / NEW
12. PS3 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 22988 / NEW
13. Wii Mario Strikers: Charged 20131 / 52856
14. Wii Mario Party 8 15628 / 834865
15. DS My Housekeeping Diary 14338 / 221269
16. DS Mario Kart DS 12192 / 2456751
17. DS Animal Crossing: Wild World 11853 / 4384956
18. Wii Wii Sports 11770 / 2007203
19. Wii Wii Play 11353 / 1573170
20. DS New Super Mario Bros. 11200 / 4826045
21. PSP Wangan Midnight Portable 10150 / NEW
22. DS Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates 9979 / 363030
23. Wii Kekkaishi 9807 / NEW
24. DS Katekyoo Hitman Reborn!! DS Flame Rumble Kaien Ring Soudatsuen! 9372 / 33931
25. PS2 Another Century's Episode 3: The Final 9345 / 223058
26. PSP MGS: Portable Ops+ Deluxe Pack 9255 / 24030
27. PS3 Agarest Senki 9024 / NEW
28. DS English Quiz DS 8895 / NEW
29. DS More English Training 8814 / 552579
30. DS Brain Training 2 8783 / 4686531

*Halo 3 or Crisis Core should be #1 on M.C.*

PSP 128000
DSL 72000
Wii 25000
PS2 13000
PS3 13000
360 5800  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Michael8983 on October 04, 2007, 12:32:27 AM
This really must be a slow period in Japan if the PSP and Halo 3 are selling.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 04, 2007, 01:30:00 AM
"Bleach" "Yugioh" Can't get any less descriptive, eh?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 06, 2007, 05:25:54 AM
First Day Sales:

Dragon Ball Z Sparking! METEOR (PS2) : about 110k
Dragon Ball Z Sparking! METEOR (Wii) : about 30k
Powerful Pro Major League 2 (PS2, Wii) : about 25k
Gundam Battle Chronicle (PSP) : about 50k
ARCHAIC SEALED HEAT (ASH) (DS) : about 40k

Source : http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on October 06, 2007, 05:54:28 AM
I wonder if ASH will have legs
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 12, 2007, 04:56:13 AM
First day sales :

Nishimura Kyoutarou suspense: trap of murderous intent (DS) : 15~20 k
Arcana Heart (PS2) : 15~20k
Rise from Lair (PS3) : 15~20k (Shipments ~ 40k)
PGR4 (360) : 5k
XBOX 360 Elite : under 5k (quiet start)

Source : http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 12, 2007, 09:07:47 PM
Apropos Arcana Heart, is that actually good? Play Asia hypes it up like it's on par with Melty Blood but is it?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 21, 2007, 02:20:14 PM
Famitsu Top 10 Oct. 1st - 7th

1. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor - 161,752 / NEW
2. PSP Gundam Battle Chronicle - 86,538 / NEW
3. DS Archaic Sealed Heat - 58,102 / NEW
4. DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time - 55,310 / 912,521
5. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2 - 42,946 / NEW
6. Wii Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor - 34,783 / NEW
7. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 26,729 / 690,549
8. PSP MGS: Portable Ops+ - 22,795 / 152,668
9. DS Kanji Quiz DS 2 - 20,573 / 43,673
10. DS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu - 19,197 / 67,516

11. DS Mario Kart DS - 10,985 / 246,7736
12. DS My Housekeeping Diary - 10,865 / 232,134
13. DS New Super Mario Bros. - 10,774 / 4,836,819
14. Wii Mario Party 8 - 10,405 / 845,270
15. Wii Mario Strikers: Charged - 10,338 / 63,194
16. DS Animal Crossing: Wild World - 10,037 / 4,394,993
17. DS Taiko Drum Master - 9,562 / 152,766
18. PS2 Bleach Blade Battlers 2 - 9,181 / 40,857
19. Wii Wii Play - 9,,81 / 1,582,251
20. PS2 Hisshou Pachinko*Pachi-Slot Kouryoku Series Vol. 11: Shinseiki Evangelion: Magokoro - 8,901 / 33,195
21. Wii Wii Sports - 8,753 / 2,015,956
22. 360 Halo 3 - 8,380 / 69,523
23. PS3 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - 8,296 / 31,284
24. PS2 Guitar Freaks V3 & DrumMania V3 - 7,874 / NEW
25. PSP Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force 2 - 6,953 / 37,121
26. DS Brain Training 2 - 6,939 / 469,3470
27. Wii Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2 - 6,784 / NEW
28. PS2 Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus - 6,565 / 30,706
29. DS More English Training - 6,539 / 559,118
30. DS English Quiz DS - 6,471 / 15,366
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on October 21, 2007, 03:19:21 PM
PS2 just won't die down in Japan...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on October 24, 2007, 08:55:47 PM
Nintendo Shipped 53.64 million DS' worldwide by September 30, 2007.

Wow. The DS is going to pass the GBA sometimes next year...
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 26, 2007, 05:01:29 AM
First day sales (Famitsu based)

100,000 DS Final Fantasy Tactics A2
. 50,000 PS2 Ar Tonelico 2
. 15,000 PS2 God of War 2
. 15,000 PS3 Imabikisou
. 10,000 DS Code Geass
. . 8,000 Wii Ghost Squad
. . 6,000 DS Winning Eleven DS
. . 6,000 Wii Takarajima Z (Zack and Wiki)
. . 6,000 PS3 The Eye of Judgement
. . 5,000 PS2 Fivb Volley Worldcup
. . 4,000 DS Gurren Lagann
. . 4,000 PS2 Hitman Reborn!!
. . 4,000 PS2 Balder Bullet
. . 3,000 DS Apathy
. . 3,000 PS2 Virtual-On
. . 3,000 360 Bladestorm
. . 1,500 Wii DDR Hottest Party
. . 1,000 DS Dungeon Maker  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on October 26, 2007, 07:43:57 AM
Does anyone know what the sales of the PSP remake of FF:Tactics were?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 26, 2007, 10:25:19 PM
Famitsu Oct 8-14

1. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor - 52,586 (214,338)
2. DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time - 43,957 (95,6478)
3. DS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent - 43,645 NEW
4. PSP Gundam Battle Chronicle - 37,129 (123,667)
5. PS3 Lair - 26,119 NEW
6. PS2 Arcana Heart - 24,930 NEW
7. DS Archaic Sealed Heat - 23,944 (82,046)
8. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2 - 18,802 (61,748)
9. DS Kanji Quiz DS 2 - 16,677 (60,350)
10. PSP MGS: Portable Ops+ - 16,205 (168,873)

11. DS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu - 15,566 (83,082)
12. DS Tashiten: Tashite 10 ni Suru Monogatari - 15,347 NEW
13. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 14,762 (705,311)
14. Wii Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor - 14,288 (49,071)
15. DS Observation Training - 11,481 (601,466)
16. DS Mario Kart DS - 11,469 (2,479,205)
17. Wii Wii Sports - 10,979 (2,026,935)
18. Wii Wii Play - 10,246 (1,592,497)
19. DS My Housekeeping Diary - 9,978 (242,112)
20. Wii Mario Party 8 - 9,488 (854,758)
21. PS2 Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou: Fist of the North Star 2 - 9,340 NEW
22. DS Taiko Drum Master - 8,840 (161,606)
23. DS Animal Crossing: Wild World - 8,790 (4,403,783)
24. DS New Super Mario Bros. - 8,756 (4,845,575)
25. Wii Mario Strikers: Charged - 8,149 (71,343)
26. PS2 Arabians Lost: The Engagement on the Desert - 8,002 NEW
27. DS Namco Museum DS - 7,350 NEW
28. 360 Project Gotham Racing 4 - 7,002 NEW
29. DS Brain Training 2 - 6,791 (4,700,261)
30. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 - 6,282 (1,332,378)  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on October 27, 2007, 02:18:44 AM
Arcana Heart again. Anyone know if that's a good game?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on October 31, 2007, 04:56:48 AM
Famitsu Top 30 Oct. 15th - 21st

1. DS Literature Collection DS 39356 / NEW
2. DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 29373 / 985851
3. PSP Gundam Battle Chronicle 27701 / 151368
4. PS2 Seaman 2 26963 / NEW
5. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor 25623 / 239961
6. 360 Beautiful Katamari 17088 / NEW
7. DS Banushi Life Game: Winner's Circle 16822 / NEW
8. DS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent 15624 / 59269
9. DS Kanji Quiz DS 2 14564 / 74914
10. Wii Wii Sports 12902 / 2039837

11. DS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 12211 / 95293
12. PS2 Galaxy Angel II: Key to the Infinite Corridor 11584 / NEW
13. DS Observation Training 11419 / 612885
14. PS3 Lair 11154 / 37273
15. Wii Wii Play 10653 / 1603150
16. DS Mario Kart DS 10016 / 2489221
17. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 9855 / 715166
18. DS Archaic Sealed Heat 9834 / 91880
19. PSP MGS: Portable Ops+ 9022 / 177895
20. DS Tashiten: Tashite 10 ni Suru Monogatari 8887 / 24234
21. DS My Housekeeping Diary 8871 / 250983
22. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2 8822 / 70570
23. Wii Mario Party 8 7814 / 862572
24. DS Taiko Drum Master 7735 / 169341
25. DS New Super Mario Bros. 7434 / 4853009
26. Wii Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor 7349 / 56420
27. Wii Mario Strikers: Charged 6867 / 78210
28. DS Animal Crossing: Wild World 6621 / 4410404
29. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 6615 / 1338993
30. PSP Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force 2 5518 / 45400  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 02, 2007, 04:19:41 AM
first day Numbers

Super Mario Galaxy ~130k
Ace combat 6 ~35,000
Opoona ~2,500

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 02, 2007, 08:01:41 PM
That's... okay, I guess.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on November 02, 2007, 08:14:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
That's... okay, I guess.


Yeah, that's pretty depressing. Who would have thought that the second Pokémon Dungeon game would have had a better launch than Mario Galaxy?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 02, 2007, 08:59:36 PM
Anyone who's been following the history of Japanese sales I guess.

I mean, I'm as perturbed by this as you are... until I remember that Zelda: TP didn't break a million in Japan either, nor did Sunshine. I think that in many ways, Nintendo's key franchises of Mario, Zelda, and Metroid are actually all more associated to the Western market than the Japanese one.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 03, 2007, 03:19:32 AM
Why does NSMB continue to sell extremely well over there? Obviously they like 2D Mario at least....
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2007, 05:26:52 AM
Or maybe its because the Japanese no longer like console gaming?
May the handhelds reign supreme!  Long live Dual Screen!!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 03, 2007, 09:59:06 PM
Famitsu Oct. 15th - 21st edited in above, and 22th - 28th moved to here just to keep things in order.

Famitsu Oct 22-28

1. NDS Final Fantasy Tactics A2 158408 / NEW
2. PS2 Ar Tonelico 2 68104 / NEW
3. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 24676 / 1010527
4. NDS World Soccer Winning Eleven DS - Goal x Goal! 21505 / NEW
5. NDS Literature Collection DS 21309 / 60665
6. PS3 Imabikisou 20419 / NEW
7. PS2 God of War II 18463 / NEW
8. PSP Gundam Battle Chronicle 17558 / 168926
9. WII Wii Sports 16590 / 2056427
10. WII Ghost Squad 16207 / NEW

11. NDS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent 16138 / 75407
12. NDS Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch 15980 / NEW
13. NDS Kanji Quiz DS 2 14276 / 89190
14. PS2 Seaman 2 13883 / 40846
15. WII Wii Play 13645 / 1616795
16. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor 12992 / 252953
17. NDS Observation Training 12725 / 625610
18. NDS Mario Kart DS 12305 / 2501526
19. NDS Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann 11140 / NEW
20. WII Zack & Wiki 10595 / NEW
21. NDS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 10527 / 105820
22. PS2 Volleyball World Cup: Venus Evolution 9450 / NEW
23. NDS My Housekeeping Diary 8696 / 259679
24. NDS Taiko Drum Master 8637 / 177978
25. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 8469 / 4861478
26. PS2 Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn!! Let's Ansatsu!? Nerawareta 10 Daime! 8138 / NEW
27. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 8101 / 723267
28. WII Mario Party 8 7878 / 870450
29. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 2 7873 / 78443
30. PS3 The Eye of Judgment: Bioloth Rebellion - Set.1 7531 / NEW

DSL 83,000
PSP 62,000
Wii 35,000
PS3 16,000
PS2 11,000
360 3,500    
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 07, 2007, 02:21:15 AM
Famitsu Oct. 29th - Nov. 4th

1. WII Super Mario Galaxy 256341 / NEW
2. 360 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 66579 / NEW
3. NDS Final Fantasy Tactics A2 51828 / 210236
4. NDS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent 20758 / 96165
5. PS2 Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander the 2nd 20102 / NEW
6. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 19006 / 1029533
7. NDS Literature Collection DS 18513 / 79178
8. WII Wii Sports 17077 / 2073504
9. WII Wii Play 15654 / 1632449
10. PS2 Ar Tonelico 2 13816 / 81920

11. NDS Mario Kart DS 13457 / 2514983
12. NDS Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary 12579 / NEW
13. NDS Observation Training 12041 / 637651
14. PSP Gundam Battle Chronicle 11380 / 180306
15. NDS World Soccer Winning Eleven DS - Goal x Goal! 11218 / 32723
16. NDS Dragon Tamer: Sound Spirits 10125 / NEW
17. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 9388 / 4870866
18. NDS Kanji Quiz DS 2 8824 / 98014
19. NDS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 8695 / 114515
20. WII Ghost Squad 8322 / 24529
21. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Meteor 7632 / 260585
22. NDS My Housekeeping Diary 7175 / 266854
23. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 7136 / 4425070
24. PS2 Seaman 2 7030 / 47876
25. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 6909 / 1352931
26. WII Mario Party 8 6837 / 877287
27. PS2 God of War II 6763 / 25226
28. PS2 Volleyball World Cup: Venus Evolution 6737 / 16187
29. NDS Sangokushi DS 2 6626 / NEW
30. PSP Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 6192 / 729459....G1Jockey PS2 5,900
....Idolmaster 5,600
....G1Jockey PS3 4,500
....MotoGP 3,800
....Oneechanbara 3,300
....Gears of War 3,100
....Opoona 3,000
....Dead Rising/Gears of War 2,100
....DOA4 900
....Lost Planet 700
....DOAX2 700
....Railfan 600
....Sylpheed 600


DSL 80,000
PSP 57,000
Wii 41,000
360 17,000
PS3
16,000
PS2 11,000    
   
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mashiro on November 07, 2007, 02:26:06 AM
Lol poor Sony, can't even outsell the 360.  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Sessha on November 07, 2007, 03:05:10 AM
I don't know what I'm more suprised about 360 outselling PS3 in Japan or seeing DOAX2 on the charts albeit very low on the charts.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 07, 2007, 04:07:24 AM
Never underestimate the power of boobies.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 07, 2007, 09:30:57 PM
....Oneechanbara 3,300

indeed
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: couchmonkey on November 08, 2007, 01:54:14 AM
Incidentally, I'm really impressed with PSP.  I was certain that sales would drop back to the previous level after a month or two but it looks like Sony has hit a new sweet spot with the slim PSP.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 08, 2007, 06:16:52 AM
The question is, is the PSP Slim expanding the market for the PSP or are the same people who owned a PSP just buying the new model?  Because if it's the second one and Sony is still selling the PSP Slim at a loss then the sales don't do them any good.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: UncleBob on November 08, 2007, 06:47:50 AM
Not true - since a lot of gamers will sell their old PSP (or give it to a sibling), it'll still increase the amount of units in the hands of players - thus increasing the userbase.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 08, 2007, 07:00:57 AM
Yeah, weren't the same arguments being made by others against the strong DSLite sales numbers?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 08, 2007, 07:26:42 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
Not true - since a lot of gamers will sell their old PSP (or give it to a sibling), it'll still increase the amount of units in the hands of players - thus increasing the userbase.
Because you sure as heck sold/gave away all your old GBA systems, right?  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2007, 06:19:43 PM
And even if you did [give away your old systems] that doesn't mean that whoever you gave it to started buying games to play on it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 08, 2007, 08:51:21 PM
It's likely these second-hand PSP owners are using the system in the same way as their former owners did: Homebrew.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 14, 2007, 03:21:04 AM
Famitsu 11/5 - 11/11

1. NDS Mario Party DS 242195 / NEW
2. PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 176180 / NEW
3. WII Super Mario Galaxy 78349 / 334690
4. 360 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 26705 / NEW
5. NDS Final Fantasy Tactics A2 24386 / 234622
6. PSP Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles 20458 / NEW
7. WII Wii Sports 17618 / 2091122
8. NDS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent 15830 / 111995
9. WII Wii Play 15274 / 1647723
10. NDS Mario Kart DS 12988 / 2527971

11. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 12761 / 1042294
12. NDS Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary 12194 / 24773
13. NDS Literature Collection DS 12145 / 91323
14. NDS Observation Training 11635 / 649286
15. PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 10965 / NEW
16. NDS My Housekeeping Diary 10125 / 276979
17. 360 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 8874 / 75453
18. PS2 NBA Live 08 8449 / NEW
19. PSP Gundam Battle Chronicle 8068 / 188374
20. PS3 Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 8056 / NEW
21. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 7819 / 4878685
22. PS2 Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander the 2nd 7066 / 27168
23. WII Mario Party 8 6804 / 884091
24. NDS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 6417 / 120932
25. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 6411 / 1359342
26. NDS Dragon Tamer: Sound Spirits 6360 / 16485
27. NDS World Soccer Winning Eleven DS - Goal x Goal! 6214 / 38937
28. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 6161 / 4431231
29. WII Ghost Squad 5558 / 30087
30. PS2 Ar Tonelico 2 5513 / 87433

DSL 82000
PS3 56000
PSP 55000
Wii 35000
PS2 9400
360 7000

Expect a press release soon      
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on November 15, 2007, 12:09:14 AM
Personally think that Sony has every right this time. I'm just waiting for that Botching Spin they'll give it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: decoyman on November 15, 2007, 02:14:13 AM
Let me give it a try...

Headline: "Playstation* Consoles** nearly double sales of console** competitors, with PS3 leading the pack."

* PS3 + PS2 for extra impact
** make sure to indicate consoles, thus excluding the DS and its might.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 15, 2007, 05:17:54 PM
But.. but... why didn't Mario Galaxy do this for the Wii? /cry
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2007, 05:44:27 PM
Because that would make WiiFit's impact less noticeable...?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on November 15, 2007, 06:48:01 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: decoyman
Let me give it a try...

Headline: "Playstation* Consoles** nearly double sales of console** competitors, with PS3 leading the pack."

* PS3 + PS2 for extra impact
** make sure to indicate consoles, thus excluding the DS and its might.


I've seen Sony fanboys (specifically the "zomg peecee" troll on Slashdot) use that spin back when the PS2 was still outselling everything except the Wii.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 16, 2007, 03:57:42 AM
Famitsu - First day sales

WII Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles - 70k (50k software only, 20k bundled)
NDS Game Center CX: Arino no Chousenjou - 35k (60% sell through, no new shipment until December)
NDS Famista DS - 20k
PS3 Heavenly Sword - 7k (30% sell through)
PS2 Votoms - 6k
PS2 Hayarigami 2 - 4-5k
PSP Dungeon Explorer - 4-5k
PSP Anata o Yurusanai - 4k (30% sell through)
NDS Dungeon Explorer - 2-2'5k
NDS Cooking Mama 2 - 2k (30k shipment)
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 21, 2007, 03:51:05 AM
Famitsu Nov. 11/12 - 11/18

1. NDS Mario Party DS 114868 / 357063
2. WII Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles 104960 / NEW
3. PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 73437 / 249617
4. NDS Game Center CX: Arino no Chousenjou 46327 / NEW
5. NDS Famista DS 44664 / NEW
6. WII Super Mario Galaxy 43317 / 378007
7. PS3 Heavenly Sword 15879 / NEW
8. WII Wii Sports 15278 / 2106400
9. WII Wii Play 14619 / 1662342
10. NDS Final Fantasy Tactics A2 14426 / 249048

11. PS2 Soukou Kihei Votoms 12736 / NEW
12. NDS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent 11121 / 123116
13. NDS Mario Kart DS 11056 / 2539027
14. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 10695 / 1052989
15. 360 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 10158 / 36863
16. NDS Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary 9006 / 33779
17. NDS Observation Training 8932 / 658218
18. NDS Literature Collection DS 8816 / 100139
19. NDS My Housekeeping Diary 8744 / 285723
20. PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 8526 / 19491
21. PS2 Hayari Gami 2 8049 / NEW
22. PSP Dungeon Explorer: Warrior of the Ancient Arts 7793 / NEW
23. PSP Anata o Yurusanai 7502 / NEW
24. WII Ghost Squad 7501 / 37588
25. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 7030 / 1366372
26. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 7020 / 4885705
27. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 5768 / 4436999
28. WII Mario Party 8 5493 / 889584
29. NDS Taiko Drum Master 5326 / 188884
30. NDS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 5217 / 126149

DSL 81,000
PSP 66,000
PS3 53,000
Wii 36,000
PS2 8,800
360 5,700

ERROR: Japanese text not support not found; Forum update 2.0 recommended      
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 23, 2007, 06:21:06 AM
1st day

DQ4 - 360,000 (70%)

PES(Winning Eleven) 2008
PS2 - 155,000
PS3 - 107,000
360 - 7,000

FF XI
PS2 - 71,000
360 - 4,000

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - 15,000

Mega Man Star Force 2 - 40,000

Dino King (DS) - 40,000
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 28, 2007, 03:22:41 AM
Famisu 11/19 - 11/26

1. NDS Dragon Quest IV 601737 / NEW
2. PS2 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 305234 / NEW
3. PS3 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 144839 / NEW
4. NDS Mario Party DS 96598 / 453661
5. NDS Mega Man Star Force 2: Beserk x Shinobi/Dinosaur 83744 / NEW
6. PS2 Final Fantasy XI: Wings of the Goddess 82597 / NEW
7. WII Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 67054 / NEW
8. NDS Dinosaur King - 7 Pieces 53358 / NEW
9. PS2 Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 13: Pachinko Hissatsu Shigotojin III 42358 / NEW
10. WII Super Mario Galaxy 37484 / 415491
11. NDS Wantame Music Channel: Doko Demo Style 33555 / NEW
12. PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 30942 / 280559
13. WII Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles 28873 / 133833
14. WII Wii Sports 19255 / 2125655
15. WII Wii Play 18875 / 1681217
16. NDS Famista DS 18139 / 62803
17. NDS Mario Kart DS 13681 / 2552708
18. 360 Final Fantasy XI: Wings of the Goddess 12927 / NEW
19. NDS Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary 12921 / 46700
20. 360 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 11923 / NEW
21. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 11836 / 1064825
22. NDS DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent 10319 / 133435
23. NDS Final Fantasy Tactics A2 10316 / 259364
24. NDS My Housekeeping Diary 10269 / 295992
25. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 9534 / 1375906
26. NDS Game Center CX: Arino no Chousenjou 8896 / 55223
27. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 8582 / 4894287
28. NDS Literature Collection DS 8440 / 108579
29. PS3 Heavenly Sword 8361 / 24240
30. NDS Observation Training 8350 / 666568

*. PSP Air 6900 / NEW
*. PS2 Dokapon Kingdom 6800 / NEW
*. PS2 Shiju Hachi 6500 / NEW
*. PS2 Play Online / Final Fantasy XI Vana'diel Collection 4600 / NEW
*. 360 Medal of Honor: Airborne 3500 / NEW
*. 360 Play Online / Final Fantasy XI Vana'diel Collection 3200 / NEW
*. WII Gegege no Kitarou: Youkai Daiundoukai 2000 / NEW
*. NDS Kouenji Joshi Soccer 2: Koi wa Nebagiba Kouenji 1600 / NEW

DSL 116,000
PSP 89,000
PS2 15,000
PS3 58,000
Wii 47,000
360 5,800

No japanese text support.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 28, 2007, 06:55:46 AM
Good thing Dragon Quest came out this week, or else the DSL probably would have been outsold by the PSP. Still, it is disappointing the PS3 has outsold the Wii. Why the heck didn't SMG do anything???
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 28, 2007, 07:32:18 AM
Do we know if the Wii is still selling out (i.e. Nintendo is only shipping 40K - 50K consoles per week) or has it truly hit a (hopefully small) rut?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 28, 2007, 09:45:53 AM
Yeah, I guess it could be limited supplies. It is selling out everywhere else, and I think they make less profit for each Wii in Japan for some reason, so it makes sense that they wouldn't ship as many there.

It isn't really that the Wii is performing badly in Japan so much as the PS3 is (surprisingly) doing well lately.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on November 30, 2007, 03:59:14 AM
First Day Sales (Famitsu)

DS Layton Kyouju to Akuma no Hako - 200,000 (700k shipment)
PS2 SD Gundam G Generation Spirits - 160,000
PS2 Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes - 60,000
DS Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters: World Championship 2008 - 25,000
360 Assassin's Creed - 20,000
Wii Naruto Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX2 - 15,000
Wii Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes (Double Pack) - 7,000
PSP Makai Senki Disgaea Portable: - 7,000 (high sell through)
360 Guilty Gear 2 Overture - 4,000
Wii Swing Golf Pangya 2nd Shot! - 3,000
PS2 Zero no Tsukaima: Muma ga Tsumugu Yokaze no Gensoukyoku - 3,000 (60% sell through)
PS2 Another Century Episode 2 (Special Vocal Version) - 3,000
DS IQ Suppli DS 2 - 2,000 (very low sell through)
PS3 Tony Hawk - 1,500
360 Tony Hawk - 1,000
DS Simple Series Vol23: Puzzle Quest - 600
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2007, 04:02:38 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
Do we know if the Wii is still selling out (i.e. Nintendo is only shipping 40K - 50K consoles per week) or has it truly hit a (hopefully small) rut?

From what I've heard, you can walk in most stores in Japan and probably find a Wii. Some stores may be out of stock, but you should not have any trouble finding one  if you really wanted one.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on November 30, 2007, 06:15:19 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: SalesBot
First Day Sales (Famitsu)

DS Layton Kyouju to Akuma no Hako - 200,000 (700k shipment)
Yeah for Professor Layton!  This game is honestly my #1 anticipated game for next year (even moreso than Brawl); how weird is that?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on November 30, 2007, 10:06:19 AM
That game? That's Layton 2, which isn't even confirmed to be released in English yet. Anyway colour me skeptical how PSP can sell so many systems with not a single game in the top 30.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 30, 2007, 03:25:07 PM
Quote

Yeah for Professor Layton! This game is honestly my #1 anticipated game for next year (even moreso than Brawl); how weird is that?
Well, I'm really excited for it too.. but not nearly as much as Smash.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 03, 2007, 06:23:06 AM
Yeah, I know that's for Layton 2.  But I still haven't gotten the first game yet.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on December 05, 2007, 01:49:33 AM
Famitsu 11/26 - 12/02

1. Layton2 308,000
2. Wii Fit 254,000
3. SD Gundam ggene spirits (PS2) 231,000
4. DQ4 132,000 (734,000)
5. BASARA2 Heroes PS2 94,000
6. WE2008PS2 89,000 (395,000)
7. Mario Party DS 57,000 (521,000)
8. Mario & Sonic 42,000 (109,000)
9. Yugioh wcs2008 (DS) 39,000
10. SMG 36,000 (452,000)

11. Assassins Creed 34,000 NEW
12. WE2008 PS3 31,000 (176,000)
14. Wii Sports 27,000 (2,162,000)
15. Wii Play 26,000 (1,707,000)
16. Natuto2 Wii 20,000 NEW
17. Disgaea PSP 17,000 NEW
18. Musou5 PS3 15,000 (295,000)
19. My Housekeeping Diary (DS) 14,000 (310,000)
21. REUC 13,000 (147,000)
22. Mario Kart DS 13,000 (2,566,000)
24. Layton1 12,000 (696,000)
25. Precure5 DS 12,000 NEW
26. Pokemon dungeon 12,000 (1,076,000)
27. MHP2 11,000 (1,387,000)

BASARA2 Heroes Wii 8,600
Izuna2 6,500
Super Swing Golf Season 2?6,500
GUILTY GEAR 2 -OVERTURE- 5,300
Another Century's Episode 2 Special Vocal Version 4,900
Kabutore Next 3,400
Tony Hawk's Project 8 PS3 1,800
Tony Hawk's Project 8 360 1,100

DSL 126000
PSP 78000
Wii 71000
PS3 41000
PS2 15000
360 5200
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stogi on December 05, 2007, 03:51:43 AM
A-dayuuuuuuum!

WiiFit - 254,000! It that some new console record? It had to have sold out!

It's also nice to see the Wii back to it's staggering numbers.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2007, 04:11:52 PM
It also looks like Professor Layton 2 bumped P. Layton 1 back into the Top 30, that should make some people happy.

p.s. Those WiiFit #'s are for 2 days only. Sat. & Sun., wait for next weeks numbers to see how WiiFit is really doing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on December 12, 2007, 04:56:53 PM
Famitsu 12/03 - 12/09

1. WII Wii Fit 153219 / 407228
2. NDS Tales of Innocence 106733 / NEW
3. NDS Prof. Layton and the Devil's Box 100898 / 408669
4. PSP Minna no Golf Portable 2 85866 / NEW
5. NDS Mario Party DS 81460 / 602465
6. 360 Lost Odyssey 60376 / NEW
7. PS2 SD Gundam G Generation Spirits 52077 / 283165
8. WII Super Mario Galaxy 48750 / 500595
9. NDS Power Pro Kun Pocket 10 47207 / NEW
10. PS2 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 44440 / 439069
11. NDS Dragon Quest IV 42498 / 776136
12. WII Wii Sports 41174 / 2193547
13. WII Wii Play 40105 / 1747237
14. WII Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 39249 / 148721
15. PS2 Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes 31885 / 125398
16. NDS Gintama Gin-Oh Quest: Gin-san ga Tenshoku shitari Sekai wo Sukuttari 31007 / NEW
17. PSP Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida 28558 / NEW
18. NDS Mega Man Star Force 2: Beserk x Shinobi/Dinosaur 20914 / 133304
19. PSP Silent Hill Origins 19784 / NEW
20. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 19603 / 1095989
21. NDS Nep League DS 18204 / NEW
22. PS2 Yakuza 2 (BEST) 17659 / NEW
23. PS3 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 17130 / 192825
24. PS3 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 16914 / NEW
25. NDS Mario Kart DS 15676 / 2581404
26. PSP Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories 15300 / NEW
27. NDS Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village 14449 / 710035
28. NDS My Sims 14370 / NEW
29. WII Mario Party 8 13914 / 918449
30. WII Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles 13735 / 160660

*. 360 Virtua Fighter 5 Live Arena 13000 / NEW
*. PS2 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories 13000 / NEW
*. WII No More Heroes 13000 / NEW
*. NDS Haneru no Tobira DS: Tanshuku Tetsudou no Yoru 10000 / NEW
*. PS2 Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters GX: Tag Force Evolution 7300 / NEW
*. PS2 Shoukan Shoujo: Elemental Girl Calling 6300 / NEW
*. WII Haneru no Tobira Wii: Girigirissu 6100 / NEW
*. PSP Chronicle of Dungeon Maker 2 3100 / NEW
*. WII Doraemon Wii: Himitsu Douguou Ketteisen! 3000 / NEW
*. PS2 Yakuza (BEST Reprint) 1800 / NEW
*. WII Namco Museum Remix 1700 / NEW
*. PS3 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End 1500 / NEW
*. WII Tamagotchi no Furifuri Kagekidan 1500 / NEW
*. 360 Momotarou Dentetsu 16 Gold 1400 / NEW
*. PS3 Conan 1400 / NEW
*. 360 Conan 740 / NEW

DSL 165,000
Wii 110,000
PSP 88,000
PS3 38,000
PS2 15,000
360 7,800  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 12, 2007, 06:12:08 PM
So Galaxy is past 500K eh? At least there's hope it'll pass a million in the future..
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 12, 2007, 06:14:44 PM
Poor PS3 is back to bottom sucking again.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 13, 2007, 06:46:13 AM
Wow at Professor Layton. Is Level 5 the new Squaresoft? Should Nintendo lobby them hard?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 18, 2007, 03:17:35 AM
DS breaks the UK sales record 2 weeks in a row
Quote

Sells over 200,000 last week, whilst Wii passes Xbox 360’s UK installed base

It seems that the only thing pegging back Nintendo’s remarkable sales achievements at the moment is its ability to get hardware on the High Street – but that hasn’t stopped the DS Lite smashing the UK weekly hardware sales record that it had set only the week before.

Last week Nintendo’s handheld sold 212,584 units – a fair chunk more than the previous weeks sales record of 191,104, according to sales data from UK stats body ChartTrack.

Until now the PS2 had been the long-standing record holder, following the 184,360 units it sold in Christmas week in 2001.

Nintendo UK's general manager David Yarnton stated: “With its wide appeal and unique software, Nintendo DS continues to expand the gaming audience and continues to appeal to everyone.

"The vast range of software being created for both avid gamers and new gamers of all ages has ensured a wide variety of unique titles are available. With New Touch! Generation title, Sight Training, and more traditional games like The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, we are looking forward to an exciting Christmas season.”

In addition to all of this, Nintendo’s other big success story, the Wii, sold over 100,000 units last week – and its total sales have now surpassed those of Microsoft’s Xbox 360, despite arriving on the market almost a year after Microsoft’s machine.

I wish we had some hardware #'s for Europe in general so we could see where the big 3 stand throughout the entire region.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on December 19, 2007, 07:34:31 PM
Famitsu 12/10 - 12/16

1. NDS Mario Party DS 160115 / 762580
2. WII Wii Fit 119841 / 527069
3. PS3 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 108040 / NEW
4. NDS Dragon Quest IV 78288 / 854424
5. NDS Prof. Layton and the Devil's Box 73496 / 482165
6. WII Super Mario Galaxy 70541 / 571136
7. WII Wii Sports 68497 / 2262044
8. WII Wii Play 66942 / 1814179
9. WII Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 58044 / 206765
10. WII Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon: The Labyrinth of Lost Time 43756 / NEW
11. PS2 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 40632 / 479701
12. PSP Minna no Golf Portable 2 39091 / 124957
13. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Darkness/Time 38818 / 1134807
14. NDS Power Pro Kun Pocket 10 34734 / 81941
15. PS2 SD Gundam G Generation Spirits 30131 / 313296
16. WII Mario Party 8 29130 / 947579
17. NDS Tales of Innocence 27910 / 134643
18. NDS Mario Kart DS 25811 / 2607215
19. PS2 Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes 23340 / 148738
20. NDS Mega Man Star Force 2: Beserk x Shinobi/Dinosaur 22925 / 156229
21. NDS Kirarin Revolution Tsukutte Misechao! Kime*Kira Stage 20802 / NEW
22. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 20612 / 1419369
23. NDS Dinosaur King - 7 Pieces 19389 / 96888
24. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 18201 / 4932627
25. PS3 Winning Eleven 11: PES 2008 18039 / 210864
26. WII NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams 16762 / NEW
27. PS2 Yakuza 2 (BEST) 16257 / 33916
28. NDS Taiko Drum Master 16181 / 224660
29. NDS Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village 15786 / 725821
30. NDS Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 15760 / 161320

*. 360 Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 15000 / NEW
*. NDS Ookiku Furikabutte: Honto no Ace ni Nareru kamo 9300 / NEW
*. WII We Love Golf! 8600 / NEW
*. WII Soul Calibur Legends 6900 / NEW
*. PS2 Spectral Gene 4200 / NEW
*. NDS KuruKuru * Princess: Yume no White Quartet 4100 / NEW
*. 360 Shikigami no Shiro III 3100 / NEW
*. 360 Stuntman Ignition 1200 / NEW
*. 360 Smash Court Tennis 3 1000 / NEW
*. WII Shikigami no Shiro III 970 / NEW

Hardware:
DSL : 249k
Wii : 168k
PSP : 158k
PS3 : 53k
PS2 : 21k
360 : 8.7k  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 19, 2007, 08:35:22 PM
Mario Party DS is a BEAST!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on December 20, 2007, 12:27:17 PM
Media Create Hardware:
1. NDS   -   222,144
2. PSP   -   184,610
3. WII   -   170,558

PSP is friggin destroying gaming as we know it. HOW THE HELL is it selling so much hardware with ONE GAME in the top THIRTY? It outsold Wii which has 6 games in the top 10. Makes me SICK!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 20, 2007, 12:37:29 PM
Seriously. Non-games selling are better than no games selling.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2007, 07:27:35 PM
People that already have the PSP are upgrading to the version(PSP Slim) that allows TV out so that they can play their portable games on the big screen.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 20, 2007, 07:46:20 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
People that already have the PSP are upgrading to the version(PSP Slim) that allows TV out so that they can play their portable "Homebrew" on the big screen.


I took the liberty of fixing your post for you.

And you are probably right. This means that the PSP sales will gradually taper off once everyone who wishes to upgrade has done so. The revision has certainly given a boost to hardware sales, but the PSP game sales remain just as weak as ever.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 21, 2007, 03:16:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
People that already have the PSP are upgrading to the version(PSP Slim) that allows TV out so that they can play their pirated games on the big screen.


I took the liberty of fixing your post for you.

And you are probably right. This means that the PSP sales will gradually taper off once everyone who wishes to upgrade has done so. The revision has certainly given a boost to hardware sales, but the PSP game sales remain just as weak as ever.


I took the liberty to fix it again

Don't forget that the Red PSP Slim also has a bundle pack that comes with the 1-Seg TV tuner so that you can watch TV on the go. Not that that is the reason to why they are selling, but another reason to probably pick one up.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on December 21, 2007, 06:45:24 AM
It doesn't matter if PSP sales go up, as long as software sales are so abysmal.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 21, 2007, 12:38:53 PM
I'll admit the psp slim is pretty slick looking, and I think a lot of people are buying it just for that reason. The question is, why aren't they buying games to play on this piece of jewelry?

The only possibilities are that they either use it to pirate stuff, or they just put it on a shelf and let it collect dust. I guess a third possibility is that they are using it for the UMD movies. I don't really know, but it is possible they are actually successful in Japan unlike in the west. Does anyone have any sales figures on UMD movies in Japan? I realize they wouldn't be included in the game charts.

Or maybe they just wear it on a chain around their neck and show it off like it is bling....
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on December 26, 2007, 04:05:57 AM
Famitsu 12/17 - 12/23

01. (DS / S-E) Final Fantasy IV - 308.794 / 308.794
02. (DS / Nintendo) Mario Party DS - 307.901 / 1.070.481
03. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Fit - 210.406 / 737.475
04. (Wii / Nintendo) Super Mario Galaxy - 109.029 / 680.165
05. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Sports - 108.629 / 2.370.673
06. (DS / S-E) Dragon Quest IV - 108.352 / 962.776
07. (Wii / Nintendo) Wii Play - 104.635 / 1.918.814
08. (Wii / Nintendo) Mario & Sonic at Olympic Games - 100.433 / 307.198
09. (DS / BandaiNamco) Doraemon Baseball: Dramatic Stadium - 96.454 / 96.454
10. (PS2 / BandaiNamco) Naruto Shuuppuden: Narutimate Accel 2 - 94.330 / 94.330
11. (DS / Pokemon) Pokemon Mistery Dungeon Darkness/Time - 83.454 / 1.218.261
12. (DS / Level 5) Prof. Layton and the Devil's Box - 68.289 / 550.454
13. (Wii / Nintendo) Mario Party 8 - 60.320 / 1.007.899
14. (DS / Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 53.158 / 2.660.373
15. (DS / Nintendo) Kousoku Card Battle: Card Hero - 49.163 / 49.163
16. (DS / Capcom) Mega Man Star Force 2: Berserk x Shinobi/Dinosaur - 47.056 / 203.285
17. (DS / Konami) Power Pro Pocket 10 - 46.891 / 128.832
18. (PS2 / Alchemist) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri - 42.385 / 42.385
19. (PS2 / Konami) Winning Eleven 2008 - 39.041 / 518.742
20. (PS2 / Konami) Power Pro Baseball 14 Ketteiban - 37.480 / 37.480

21. NDS Taiko Drum Master 37000 / 261000
22. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 35000 / 4967000
23. NDS (sinobi) Dinosaur King - 7 Pieces 34000 / 130000
24. NDS (sinobi) Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu 33000 / 195000
25. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 32000 / 1452000
26. PS3 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 29000 / 136000
27. NDS (sinobi) Kirarin Revolution Tsukutte Misechao! Kime*Kira Stage 25000 / 45000
28. NDS Wantame Music Channel: Doko Demo Style 24000 / 92000
29. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 24000 / 4495000
30. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 23000 / 5382000

*. PS3 Time Crisis 4 20000 / NEW
*. PSP Hajime no Ippo Portable: Victorious Spirits 16000 / NEW
*. PSP Patapon 16000 / NEW
*. NDS Lost in Blue 3 14000 / NEW
*. WII Jikkyou Power Pro Baseball Wii Ketteiban 11000 / NEW
*. PS3 Medal of Honor: Airborne 7900 / NEW
*. PS2 Myself; Yourself 7700 / NEW
*. PS3 FIFA Soccer 08 4900 / NEW
*. PS2 Pia Carrot e Youkoso!! G.O. Summer Fair 4000 / NEW
*. PSP Sora no Kiseki Material Collection Portable 3600 / NEW
*. NDS Pinky Street Kira Kira * Music Night 3200 / NEW
*. PSP Sora no Kiseki FC&SC Kanzenban 3100 / NEW
*. WII FIFA Soccer 08 2500 / NEW
*. 360 FIFA Soccer 08 2400 / NEW

DSL 319000
Wii 264000

PSP 162000
PS3 51000
PS2 24000
360 8100

 
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stogi on December 26, 2007, 05:33:52 AM
*Jaw Drops*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 26, 2007, 05:36:57 AM
Holy shift.

EDIT: Hey, New Super Mario Bros is at nearly 5 million there.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 26, 2007, 05:39:01 AM
Wow...

Super Mario Galaxy and Mario & Sonic each got a MAJOR sales boost.

I'm very happy right now .
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on December 28, 2007, 04:03:59 AM
FYI, according to Media Create, the DS has now outsold the lifetime sales of the PS2 by 50,000 units.  Let the party begin.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on December 28, 2007, 12:21:16 PM
That was only after three years.. amazing.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on January 05, 2008, 03:16:14 PM
Famitsu 12/24 - 12/30

1. (PS2, Banpresto) Super Robot Taisen OG Gaiden - 199,000
2. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Party DS - 162,000 (1,232,000)
3. (DS, Square Enix) Final Fantasy IV - 138,000 (447,000)
4. (PSP, Square Enix) Star Ocean First Departure - 115,000
5. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 94,000 (2,465,000)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Dragon Quest IV - 90,000 (1,053,000)
7. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Fit - 81,000 (818,000)
8. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 72,000 (1,991,000)
9. (PSP, Bandai Namco) Suzumiya Haruhi no Yakusoku - 71,000
10. (Wii, Nintendo) Super Mario Galaxy - 68,000 (748,000)

11. (DS, Level 5) Professor Layton & Akuma no Hako - 65,000 (615,000)
12. (Wii, Nintendo) Mario & Sonic and the Olympic Games - 56,000 (363,000)
13. (Wii, Nintendo) Mario Party 8 - 46000 (1,054,000)
14. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 38,000 (1,490,000)
15. (DS, Pokemon) Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Time + Shadow Expedition Party - 38,000 (1,257,000)
16. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 35,000 (2,695,000)
17. ???
18. (PS2, Konami) Power Pro Baseball 10 - 30,000?158000?
19. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Brothers - 27,000 (4,995,000)
20. (PS2, Konami) World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 - 26,000 (545,000)
21. (360, Activision) Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare - 26,000
22. (DS, Namco) Tales Of Innocence - 22,000 (178,000)
23. (PS3, SCE) Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 22,000 (158,000)
25. (DS, Level 5) Professor Layton & the Curious Village - 21,000 (766,000)
26. (PS3, Activision) Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare - 21,000
27. (DS, Nintendo) Kousoku Card Battle: Card Hero - 19,000 (68,000)
28. ???
29. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World - 18,000 (4,514,000)
30. (DS, Bandai Namco) Dorabase: Dramatic Stadium 18,000 (115,000)

XX. (360, Bandai Namco) Gundam Musou International - 9,400
XX. (Wii, Takara Tomy) Jinsei Game Wii - 6,600
XX. (DS, Takara Tomy) Jinsei Game DS - 4,800
XX. (PS2, Prototype) Shinkyouku Soukai Polyphonica 3&4 Hanashi Kanketsuhen - 4,700
XX. (Wii, Bandai Namco) Nodame Cantabile: Dream * Orchestra - 2,400
XX. (Wii, Yamasa) Anime Slot Revolution: Pachi-Slot Kidou Senshi Gundam II - Ai Senshi Hen - 1,600
XX. (Wii, SNK Playmore) Metal Slug Anthology - 1,100  

DSL 195,000
Wii 162,000
PSP 158,000
PS3 49,000
PS2 30,000
360 9,200  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 05, 2008, 07:06:59 PM
Nice to see Wii outselling PS3 3 to 1 again.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 05, 2008, 07:44:14 PM
If Galaxy sales don't go up next week's numbers, I'll be concerned...
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 05, 2008, 09:47:43 PM
I wouldn't worry, Kairon.

With Brawl coming out, there will be a sharp spike in Wii owners; thus allowing for more patrons to purchase the pleasantly plump plumber's game.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 06, 2008, 04:03:37 AM
I would have expected Star Ocean would have done better coming off of FFVII:CC, but I guess it and probably the remake of the second S.O. game will probably end up selling about as well as S.O III.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: son of lucas on January 06, 2008, 06:57:36 PM
Heh, Haruhi Suzimiya is beating Mario Galaxy.

No complaints there
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on January 09, 2008, 05:21:12 PM
Famitsu 12/31 - 1/6

1. Mario Party DS - 208,000 (1,441,000)
2. Wii Sports - 127,000 (2,592,000)
3. Wii Play - 103,000 (2,093,000)
4. Wii Fit - 94,000 (912,000)
5. Final Fantasy IV - 80,000 (527,000)
6. Mario & Sonic - 74,000 (438,000)
7. Dragon Quest IV - 70,000 (1,123,000)
8. Mario Kart DS - 68,000 (2,764,000)
9. Mario Party 8 - 68,000 (1,122,000)
10. Super Mario Galaxy - 62,000 (810,000)

11. Layton 2 -59,000 (674,000)
12. Rune Factory 2 - 56,000 (NEW)
13. Star Ocean First Departure - 46,000 (161,000)
14. Pokemon MD2 - 46,000 (1,302,000)
15. SRT OG Gaiden - 43,000 (242,000)
16. New Super Marios Bros - 43,000 (5,038,000)
17. Powerful Pro-kun Pocket 10 - 42,000 (200,000)
18. Monster Hunter Portable 2 - 42,000 (1,532,000)
19. Winning Eleven PS2 - 37,000 (582,000)
20. ....
21. Animal Crossing - 29,000 (4,542,000)
22. Layton 1 - 26,000 (792,000)
23. ....
24. Taiko Drum Master DS - 24,000 (303,000)
25. More Brain Training - 24,000 (4,807,000)
26. Flash Focus Vision Training - 23,000 (752,000)
27. IE Institute's Kanji Training 2 - 23,000 (134,000)
28. Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!) - 23,000 (88,000)
29. Resident Evil UC - 21000 (234,000)
30. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 21,000 (179,000)

DSL 312,000
Wii 243,000
PSP 189,000
PS3 70,000
PS2 35,000
360 13,000  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2008, 05:31:37 PM
Mario takes 5 of the Top 10
WiiXXX takes 3 of the Top 10
and SE fills in the rest of the Top 10 with FF and DQ.

Now that is Nintendomination.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 09, 2008, 08:20:31 PM
Next week will be slower though right?
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2008, 08:35:33 PM
next week should be much, much slower. Back to pre-holiday sales which may not be a good thing for PS3 and Wii.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on January 16, 2008, 03:21:04 AM
Famitsu 01/07 - 01/13

1.Wii Fit 93000(1005000)
2.Mario Party DS 52000(1493000)
3.Wii Sports 41000(2633000)
4.Wii Play 26000(2120000)
5.Layton 2 23000(697000)
6.FF4 20000(547000)
7.MHP2 20000(1551000)
8.Mario Sonic 20000(457000)
9.Mario Kart DS 19000(2783000)
10.Rune Factory 2 18000(74000)

11.SMG 18000(827000)
12.MP8 16000(1138000)
13.DQ4 16000(1139000)
15.SO1 14000(175000)
16.WEPS2 13000(595000)
17.New SMB 13000(5051000)
18.ACWW 12000(4554000)
19.COD4PS3 11000(50000)
20.Layton 11000(803000)
21.Pokemon dungeon  11000(1313000)
24.Brain Age 2 9100(4816000)
25.Golf PSP2 9000(194000)
26.?? 8300(396000)
27.REUC 8200(242000)
28.Pokemon 7900(5425000)
30.?2 7700(95000)

Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! Dream Hyper Battle! Wii 6900
ARMORED CORE 4 360 2000
ARMORED CORE 4 PS3 1400

DSL 103000
PSP 84000
Wii 82000
PS3 34000
PS2 15000
360 5500
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on January 16, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
Quote

ARMORED CORE 4 360 2000
ARMORED CORE 4 PS3 1400
A 360 game sold more than the PS3 counterpart?  Unheard of.  (Although, the sales are so low does it even matter?)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2008, 11:09:21 AM
NSMB is over 5 million in Japan now. Incredible.  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2008, 11:10:29 AM
THE FORUM IS SWALLOWING OUR POSTS! SOMEONE SAVE US!
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2008, 01:11:26 PM
Sorry guys but I need to rant at the PSP again. Last weeks Media Create hardware

1. NDS   -    97,369
2. PSP   -    96,159
3. WII   -    84,530

DS has about a million games in the top 30, even Wii has heaps, PSP has basically no games there ever, yet it sells like this? I flat out do NOT believe it. If this is the case then PSP is the worst thing to EVER happen to the videogame industry. Sony has to be paying off someone to make up these numbers, or even further paying people to buy PSPs in a scheme to get Monster Hunter 3 to be ported to PSP. I do not believe the piracy numbers are THAT high, and that so many people are willing to invest so much in that ugly piece of crap just to play NES games. Lowlifes buying it to watch porn on is a possibility, but aren't there a million cell phones that can do that too? Could PSP be $5 there? This is the most dodgy thing i've ever seen. 3 in 4 new PSP owners are buying NO games with it. Can ANYONE explain it? We have to get to the bottom of this
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Urkel on January 17, 2008, 02:09:45 PM
Reggie's buying up PSPs to even things out a little cuz he's getting bored of all this one-sided ass kicking.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 17, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Sorry guys but I need to rant at the PSP again. Last weeks Media Create hardware



1. NDS   -    97,369

2. PSP   -    96,159

3. WII   -    84,530



DS has about a million games in the top 30, even Wii has heaps, PSP has basically no games there ever, yet it sells like this? I flat out do NOT believe it. If this is the case then PSP is the worst thing to EVER happen to the videogame industry. Sony has to be paying off someone to make up these numbers, or even further paying people to buy PSPs in a scheme to get Monster Hunter 3 to be ported to PSP. I do not believe the piracy numbers are THAT high, and that so many people are willing to invest so much in that ugly piece of crap just to play NES games. Lowlifes buying it to watch porn on is a possibility, but aren't there a million cell phones that can do that too? Could PSP be $5 there? This is the most dodgy thing i've ever seen. 3 in 4 new PSP owners are buying NO games with it. Can ANYONE explain it? We have to get to the bottom of this


I wouldn't underestimate the piracy element. Also, doesn't Japan have some TV adapter, phone adapter, and a GPS thing for the PSP? Maybe  people are buying it for those reasons, and to surf the net. Maybe even type up business reports and do spreadsheets on it too. *shrug*

I guess another possibility is that Sony is buying its inventory back and reshipping it so that it inflates the numbers and makes the PSP look like a successful system, when actually it isn't. Or maybe they are just reporting shipments instead of sales figures again... *shrug*
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2008, 03:30:46 PM
Japan has a rather large used game market. Not that PSP owners are buying any games to return to then be re-bought as used, but some of the old games may be getting recycled through all the PSP owners, until all 30 copies of whatever has sold has been owned at one time or another by every PSP owner.

Also don't forget that all the PSP Phat owners are also upgrading to the PSP Slim so that they can use the TV-Out option.

TV-tuner, GPS, phone adapter, Piracy, etc etc. have already been mentioned, but I can't think of any other excuses.

Maybe Sony is having some sort of mail-in rebate where you buy one PSP Slim and get on for FREE.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2008, 04:38:38 PM
Quote

I wouldn't underestimate the piracy element. Also, doesn't Japan have some TV adapter, phone adapter, and a GPS thing for the PSP? Maybe people are buying it for those reasons, and to surf the net. Maybe even type up business reports and do spreadsheets on it too. *shrug*

Well DS can do most of that stuff too, and there was a DS redesign as well but it still sells lots of games. The used game market is an interesting point I never thought of and could explain it.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 17, 2008, 04:51:47 PM
But used games can't be the explanation, because that would be just as applicable to the DS (as well as all other systems). That is, unless PSP owners are more likely to buy used games and then return them than owners of other systems.... but why would that be?

I think BlackNMild is right... people are still upgrading their PSP Phats. But if that's the explanation, why are they bothering to upgrade and still not buy games? Something is definitely fishy here, and given Sony's past dishonesty I wouldn't be surprised if they've been fudging the numbers up somehow.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2008, 06:01:10 PM
PSP Slim has TV-Out & PSP also uses Mem-Sticks to hold photos, videos, movies, games, music, etc. etc. etc.
With your now upgraded PSP Slim you can now display all of that on your Big Screen TV for all to see.
Why would you need to buy games?
You probably already have them all on your mem-sticks along with all our other media that you care to use your PSP for.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2008, 06:25:33 PM
PSP games being crap would explain why everyone returns them.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 18, 2008, 06:07:54 AM
You have to admit the PSP is especially prone to piracy because unlike other systems you don't need to chip it or anything. All it needs is a firmware thing. Aside from that, the PSP is already piracy enabled. The portability factor is also great, because now you can take your pirated games with you on the go.

Another reason why we shouldn't underestimate piracy, is because it is extremely widespread. Almost everyone who has ever touched a computer has pirated something at one time or another, even if it was just an MP3. So its not like this would be limited to just a handful of computer geeks living in their parent's basement. Even grandma and grandpa know how to pirate these days.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on January 24, 2008, 04:38:00 PM
Famitsu 01/14 - 01/20

1.Wii Fit 108,000 (1,114,000)
2.Mario & Sonic DS 91,000
3.Mario Party DS 38,000 (1,531,000)
4.Wii Sports  31,000 (2,664,000)
5.Wii Play 19,000 (2,139,000)
6.Monster Hunter Portable 2 18,000 (1,569,000)
7.Layton 2 17,000 (714,000)
8.Mario & Sonic Wii 17,000 (474,000)
9.Mario Galaxy 17,000 (844,000)
10.Mario Party 8 15,000 (1,154,000)

11.Mario Kart 14,000 (2,796,000)
12.Final Fantasy IV 11,000 (559,000)
13.School Days 11,000
14.Dragon Quest IV 10,000 (1,150,000)
15.Layton 1 10,000 (813,000)
16.New Super Mario Bros 10,000 (5,061,000)
17.Animal Crossing 10,000 (4,564,000)
18.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2 9,600 (605,000)
20.Rune Factory 2 8,800 (83,000)
21.Minna no Golf Portable 2 8,000 (202,000)
23.Call Of Duty 4 PS3 7,800 (58,000)
24.Star Ocean First Departure 7,700 (183,000)
25.Pawapoke10 7,700 (215,000)
26.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!) 7,500 (103,000)
27.More Brain Training 7,200 (4,823,000)
29.Household Diary 6,600, (403,000)
30.Literature Collection 6,600 (182,000)

...Drift Nights PS2 3,900
...Sonic Riders 3,700
...Trauma Center 2 3,100
...Drift Nights 360 1,400
...From the Abyss 1,200

DSL 91,000
Wii 76,000
PSP 65,000
PS2 13,000
PS3 32,000
360 4,400  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on January 30, 2008, 03:41:25 PM
Famitsu 01/21 - 01/27

1.[WII] Wii Fit 96,000 (1,209,000)
2.[PSP] Winning Eleven UE2008 70,000
3.[PS2] Lucky Star 61,000
4.[NDS] Mario & Sonic DS 54,000 (145,000)
5.[WII] Wii Sports 28,000 (2,692,000)
6.[NDS] Mario Party DS 26,000 (1,557,000)
7.[PSP] Yggdra Union 22,000
8.[NDS] Doraemon Baseball 22,000 (141,000)
9.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 15,000 (1,584,000)
10.[WII] Wii Play 14,000 (2,153,000)

11.Mario & Sonic Wii 13,000(488,000)
12.Mario Kart DS 13,000 (2,809,000)
13.Layton 2 ??? (727,000)
14.Tennis no Oujisama: Driving Smash! Side King DS 12,000
15.Mario Party 8 9,400 (1,163,000)
16.Super Mario Galaxy 9,100 (853,000)
17.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!) 8,500 (111,000)
18.Layton 1 8,500 (821,000)
19.Dragon Quest IV 8,000 (1,158,000)
20.Minna no Golf Portable 2 8,000 (210,000)
21.Power Pocket Pro Kun 10 DS 7,900 (223,000)
22.Animal Crossing DS 7,700 (4,572,000)
24.New Super Mario Bros 7,500 (5,069,000)
25.Household Diary 7,100 (410,000)
26.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2 7,100 (612,000)
27.Call Of Duty 4 PS3 7,100 (65,000)
28.Final Fantasy IV 6,300 (565,000)
29.Flash Focus 6,100 (772,000)
30.More Brain Training 5,900 (4,829,000)

...Exit DS 5,500
...Drift Nights: Juiced 2 PS3 5,000
...The Sims 2 Castaway DS 3,000
...TOCA 750

Wii 79,000
DSL 74,000
PSP 61,000
PS3 29,000
PS2 11,000
360 4,200  
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 31, 2008, 12:00:14 AM
Media Create doesn't have NSMB on it at all, but here on Famitsu it is lingering on at 24 with a piddly 7,500 sold during the week. Whichever source is correct, I fear that game's reign of terror has come to an end.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 31, 2008, 12:28:52 AM
to come back in three-four weeks to land at number one again! =D
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2008, 03:52:04 AM
BOth sources are as corrct as the other, jthey just track slightly different sources more accuarately.
But I'm sure NSMB will get another Big boost from the next big game that draws people into the stores.
(Japan is playing SSBB as we speak, maybe a few DS's were picked up along with NSMB... or maybe not)
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 31, 2008, 06:50:03 AM
Now that NSMB is waning in popularity it might be a good time for Nintendo to start considering NSMB2. A 5 million+ seller in Japan alone absolutely warrants a sequel.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 02, 2008, 06:49:38 PM
ATTENTION. I have found a clue as to why the PSP sells so well in Japan yet has very little game sales. From, of all things, an interview with Hiro Nakamura:

Quote

Were you able to check out what's new in games in Japan?

I found some PlayStation 3 titles in Japan that I'm looking forward to. The Thousand Day War looked really good. They also had a lot of interesting Nintendo DS stuff, which made me want to use my DS more. In Japan, if you have a PSP, it's more than just a gaming device. You can download all of this stuff. In America, you don't have that. And in Japan you have so many mobile applications that we don't have here.


http://videogames.yahoo.com/celebrity-byte/masi-oka/1178124  
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on February 06, 2008, 04:06:24 AM
Famitsu 01/28 -02/03

1. SSBB (Wii) - 800k
2. DMC4 (PS3) - 210k
3. Haruhi (PS2) - 100k
4. Tales of Destiny (PS2) - 97k
5. WiiFit (Wii)
6. Disgaiea 3 (PS3) - 56k
7. DMC4 (360) - 40k
8. Assassin Creed (PS3) - 37k
9. Mario & Sonic: At the Olympics (DS)
10. WE 11: PES 2008 (PSP)

Family Ski - 24k

Wii - 100k
PS3 - 36k
X360 - 5800
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Louieturkey on February 06, 2008, 10:03:51 AM
Only 1 DS game in the top 10?!  When was the last time that happened?  Or the last time less than 4 DS games were in the top 10?
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on February 06, 2008, 10:11:37 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: SalesBot
Famitsu 01/28 -02/03
1. SSBB (Wii) - 800k


To quote Frank Gallagher of Shameless... "Massive!"
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on February 06, 2008, 08:00:13 PM
Apparently Kairon posted in this thread, but I can't read it. I'm guessing this because the thread has grown too long.
Title: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
Change your amount of post per page and you will be able to see, you can always change it back later.
its another glitch in the system.
Title: RE:Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 07, 2008, 08:42:14 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Only 1 DS game in the top 10?!  When was the last time that happened?  Or the last time less than 4 DS games were in the top 10?


This confirms the DS was just a fad, and that people in Japan have finally realized the touch screen was just a gimmick. Took them 4 years, but better late than never, I suppose.
Title: Re: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Louieturkey on February 21, 2008, 09:00:24 PM
I love how this thread has been switched back to its original topic heading instead of the "Official DS Sales Thread."
Title: Re: PSP outsells DS for the first time
Post by: Svevan on February 22, 2008, 06:06:22 AM
fixed
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 30, 2008, 09:51:52 PM
Quote
New from this week's Famitsu: All Handheld Million Sellers
LTD to 7/6/2008

1. [NDS] Pokemon Diamond + Pearl - 5,511,294
2. [NDS] New Super Mario Brothers - 5,215,470
3. [NDS] Brain Age 2 - 4,899,012
4. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World - 4,684,075
5. [NDS] Brain Age - 3,690,873
6. [NDS] Mario Kart DS - 3,119,395
7. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G - 2,315,879
8. [NDS] English Training - 2,103,962
9. [NDS] nintendogs - 1,779,603
10. [NDS] Mario Party DS - 1,733,646
11. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 1,702,520
12. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training - 1,568,648
13. [NDS] Big Brain Academy - 1,525,221
14. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker - 1,467,179
15. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time + Darkness - 1,397,037
16. [NDS] Tetris DS - 1,280,019
17. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV - 1,202,569
18. [NDS] Wario Ware Touched! - 1,136,255
19. [NDS] Tamagotchi Connection Corner Shop - 1,110,046
20. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable (incl. PSP The Best) - 1,102,832
21. [NDS] Super Mario 64 DS - 1,102,832
22. [NDS] Kirby Squeek Squad - 1,095,781
23. [NDS] Love and Berry DS Collection - 1,055,821
24. [NDS] Final Fantasy III - 1,008,230

Found this when looking for this weeks Media Create Numbers.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 30, 2008, 11:17:13 PM
Wow a cool 5 million for both Pokemon D&P and New Super Mario Bros..Awesome! What is that Love & Berry DS collection?
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: nickmitch on July 30, 2008, 11:41:35 PM
All the PSP ones are Monster Hunter. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 31, 2008, 12:30:42 AM
ahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 31, 2008, 03:50:12 PM
Whoever makes the Monster Hunter games should put them out on the DS instead. If they can manage to sell 2 million on that system, then they might manage 20 million on the DS.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Arbok on July 31, 2008, 07:46:26 PM
Whoever makes the Monster Hunter games should put them out on the DS instead. If they can manage to sell 2 million on that system, then they might manage 20 million on the DS.

Problem is that would require actually making a new game rather than just porting over a PS2 title.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on August 01, 2008, 02:39:05 AM
Whoever makes the Monster Hunter games should put them out on the DS instead. If they can manage to sell 2 million on that system, then they might manage 20 million on the DS.
They're making it for the Wii. I guess it needs more 3d than the DS can do.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 01, 2008, 02:51:39 AM
Yeah KDR is right it is coming in 2009
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on December 11, 2008, 02:01:57 PM
Famitsu 11/24 - 11/30

Software
01. [NDS] Professor Layton and The Last Time Travel (Level 5) - 95,000 / 456,000
02. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 70,000 / 484,000
03. [PS2] Dragon Ball Z: Infinite World (Bandai Namco) - 65,000 / NEW
04. [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami) - 44,000 / 219,000
05. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) - 39,000 / 491,000
06. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girl's Mode (Nintendo) - 36,000 / 286,000
07. [WII] 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de (Sega) - 34,000 / NEW
08. [360] Fallout 3 (Bethesda Softworks) - 33,000 / NEW
09. [NDS] Chrono Trigger (Square Enix) - 28,000 / 385,000
10. [NDS] Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) - 27,000 / 1,156,000

11. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon) - 27,000 / 1,956,000
12. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 26,000 / 2,782,000
13. [PSP] Warriors Orochi 2 (Koei) - 22,000 / 65,000
14. [PSP] Kenka Banchou 3: Zenkoku Seiha (Spike) - 21,000 / 70,000
15. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Gundam vs. Gundam (Bandai Namco) - 18,000 / 316,000
16. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Spec III (SCE) - 18,000 / 131,000
17. [PSP] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX: Tag Force 3 (Konami) - 16,000 / 80,000
18. [PS2] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 5 Kanzenban (Konami) - 15,000 / NEW
19. [NDS] Little Magicians Magic Adventure (Konami) - 15,000 / 109,000
20.
21. [NDS] Hisshou Pachinko*Pachi-Slot Kouryaku Series DS Vol. 3 (D3) - 13,000 / NEW
22. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 13,000 / 1,854,000
23. [NDS] Ryuusei no RockMan 3: Black Ace & Red Joker (Capcom) - 13,000 / 119,000
24. [PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 5 Kanzenban (Konami) - 13,000 / NEW
25. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G, PSP the Best (Capcom) - 13,000 / 93,000
26. [NDS] Saka-Tsuku DS: Touch and Direct (Sega) - 12,000 / 112,000
27. [PSP] Patapon 2 (SCE) - 11,000 / 35,000
28. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 10,000 / 3,204,000
29. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS: Mafia Daishuugou Bongole Festival (Takara Tomy) - 8,600 / NEW
30. [360] Saint's Row 2 (THQ) - 8,600 / NEW

[NDS] Chou!! Nep League DS (Jaleco) - 8,000 / NEW
[PS3] Saint's Row 2 (THQ) - 7,300 / NEW
[WII] Kaze no Klonoa: Door to Phantomile (Bandai Namco) - 5,800 / NEW
[PS2] Real Rode (Kadokawa Shoten) - 5,600 / NEW
[NDS] Motto Hayaku! Seikaku Ni! Suu Sense Keisan Ryuoku Up Training - SuuTore (Benesse) - 5,100 / NEW
[PSP] LocoRoco 2 (SCE) - 5,100 / NEW
[NDS] Blazer Drive (Sega) - 4,800 / NEW
[NDS] Kikiite Hajimaru: Eigo Kaiwa Training - KikiTore (Benesse) - 4,600 / NEW
[NDS] Sekai no Gohan Shaberu! DS Oryouri Navi (Nintendo) - 3,400 / NEW
[NDS] MySims Kingdom (EA) - 2,700 / NEW
[NDS] Eiyuu Senki Leavadein (GungHo) - 2,100 / NEW
[NDS] Custom Battler Bomberman (Hudson) - 1,600 / NEW
[NDS] Hajime no Ippo The Fighting! DS (ESP) - 1,500 / NEW
[NDS] Gokuhou!! Mecha Mote Iinchou: Mecha Mote Days, Hajime Masuwa! (Konami) - 1,400 / NEW
[NDS] Mori no Cafeteria DS: Oshare na Cafe Recipe (D3) - 820 / NEW
[NDS] Kageyama Hideo no Hanpuku Ondoku DS Eigo (IE Institute) - 670 / NEW
[WII] Cooking Mama World Kitchen (Taito) - 600 / NEW
[NDS] Drawn to Life (Agatsuma Entertainment) - 530 / NEW

Hardware
DSi 127000
Wii 55000
PSP 49000
PS3 26000
DSL 16000
360 9900
PS2 7100
Title: Re: RE: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: DAaaMan64 on December 24, 2008, 03:46:23 PM
I really think the Lite was a bad idea. They should release it when DS sales start to slow down. DS is selling fine at the moment.

LOL
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: SalesBot on December 24, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
Famitsu Sales: 12/15 - 12/21

01. [PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) - 504,000 / NEW
02. [PS3] Gundam Musou 2 (Bandai Namco) - 162,000 / NEW
03. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 159,000 / 728,000
04. [NDS] Tales of Hearts: Anime Movie & CG Movie (Bandai Namco) - 142,000 / NEW
05. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) - 142,000 / 697,000
06. [PS2] Fate/Unlimited Codes (Capcom) - 95,000 / NEW
07. [PS2] Gundam Musou 2 (Bandai Namco) - 92,000 / NEW
08. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon) - 91,000 / 2,093,000
09. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girl's Mode (Nintendo) - 91,000 / 429,000
10. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco) - 70,000 / 200,000

11. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 70,000 / 2,887,000
12. [NDS] Penguin no Mondai: Saikyou Penguin Densetsu! (Konami) - 69,000 / 127,000
13. [NDS] Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) - 64,000 / 1,258,000
14. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu: 20th Anniversary (Hudson) - 64,000 / NEW
15. [NDS] Gensou Suikoden Tierkreis (Konami) - 63,000 / NEW
16. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii (Hudson) - 63,000 / NEW
17. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel (Level 5) - 55,000 / 571,000
18. [NDS] Power Pro-Kun Pocket 11 (Konami) - 54,000 / NEW
19. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 52,000 / 1,930,000
20.
21. [NDS] Little Magicians Magic Adventure (Konami) - 48,000 / 180,000
22. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 39,000 / 271,000
23. [360] Fable II (Microsoft) - 36,000 / NEW
24. [NDS] Ragnarok Online DS (GungHo) - 33,000 / NEW
25. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 32,000 / 3,255,000
26. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G, PSP the Best (Capcom) - 32,000 / 145,000
27. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Spec III (SCE) - 29,000 / 183,000
28. [NDS] Bokujou Monogatari: Youkoso Kaze no Bazaar e (Marvelous) - 28,000 / NEW
29. [360] Gundam Musou 2 (Bandai Namco) - 27,000 / NEW
30. [WII] Wii de Asobu: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (Nintendo) - 27,000 / 52,000

__. [PS3] Need for Speed Undercover (EA) - 19,000 / NEW
__. [PS2] BeatMania IIDX 15: DJ Troopers (Konami) - 17,000 / NEW
__. [WII] Bleach: Versus Crusade (Sega) - 15,000 / NEW
__. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko*Pachi-Slot Kouryaku Series Vol. 13: Shinseiki Evangelion - Yakusoku no Toki (D3) - 15,000 / NEW
__. [360] Prince of Persia (Ubisoft) - 8,000 / NEW
__. [PS2] Need for Speed Undercover (EA) - 6,100 / NEW
__. [NDS] Nakayoshi All-Stars: Mezase Gakuen Idol (Creative Core) - 5,800 / NEW
__. [WII] Sonic Unleashed (Sega) - 5,800 / NEW
__. [WII] Let's Tap (Sega) - 5,400 / NEW
__. [PSP] Need for Speed Undercover (EA) - 4,800 / NEW
__. [NDS] Kirarin * Revolution: Atsumete Change! Kurikira * Code (Konami) - 4,600 / NEW
__. [PSP] Hiiro no Kakera Portable (Idea Factory) - 4,400 / NEW
__. [NDS] Ochaken no Daibouken 2: Yume Ippai no Omocha Hako (MTO) - 4,300 / NEW
__. [360] Need for Speed Undercover (EA) - 4,100 / NEW
__. [PS2] FIFA Soccer 09 (EA) - 2,200 / NEW
__. [PS2] ADK Tamashii (SNK Playmore) - 2,100 / NEW
__. [WII] Dance Dance Revolution: Furu Furu Party (Konami) - 2,100 / NEW
__. [PSP] Solfege: Sweet Harmony (GungHo) - 2,000 / NEW
__. [NDS] Edogawa Ranpo no Kaijin Nijuu Mensou DS (Takara Tomy) - 1,800 / NEW
__. [WII] Disney TH!NK Fast (Disney) - 1,600 / NEW
__. [WII] Need for Speed Undercover (EA) - 1,500 / NEW
__. [PSP] Crimson Room Rebirth (Success) - 1,400 / NEW
__. [NDS] Princess Ballerina: Yumemiru 4-Jin no Primadonna (Spike) - 980 / NEW
__. [NDS] Toudou Ryuunosuke Tantei Nikki: Kohakuiro no Yuigon (fonfun) - 840 / NEW
__. [PS3] Armored Core: For Answer, PlayStation 3 the Best (From Software) - 840 / NEW
__. [NDS] Space Puzzle Bobble (Taito) - 800 / NEW

DSL 48000
DSi 215000
PSP 148000
Wii 151000
PS3 37000
PS2 9700
360 13000
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 24, 2008, 11:21:19 PM
What happened to game #20 salesbot sir?

Also, MAN. Rhythm Heaven...over a million... how? So dizzy...
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 24, 2008, 11:32:05 PM
What happened to game #20 salesbot sir?

Also, MAN. Rhythm Heaven...over a million... how? So dizzy...

He probably just took it from Neogaf where 20 is missing
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 11, 2009, 06:15:05 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/11/ds-sells-100-million-units-worldwide/

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/Maxi_80/Video%20Games/nintendograph031109.jpg)
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: oohhboy on March 12, 2009, 10:58:18 AM
Wow, to think that the world has spent tens of billions of dollars on Just the DS console itself, the money spent on software must be mind blowing.

Anyone taking bets for 150Million before Nintendo retires the DS?
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on March 12, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
I had forgotten that DS sales didn't really take off until the DS Lite was released.  Check out the graph if the sales rate had stayed the same after the first year.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/kingvudu/DS_Sales.png)

Nintendo would have sold only half of the number of units.  That's a bit eye-opening.  Granted, the increase in sales can't be entirely attributed to the DSL, but it certainly helped.
Title: Re: PSP outsells DS for the second time
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 12, 2009, 11:28:48 PM
But DS sales have taken a very noticeable drop over the last few weeks (in JPN).
PSP is beating the DSL+DSi combined right now & has been for the last 2-3 weeks.
What is the cause for the drop? saturation of the japanese market?

PSP & PS3 are out selling Nintendo DS & Wii right now, collectively & individually.
Why do you think that is?

If I remember right though, PS2 has 145-148million sold.
Do you really think DS will last another 2 years at the current sales rate to actually beat that before it gets phased out by the DS successor?
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 13, 2009, 05:03:30 AM
Even if the PSP manages to outsell the DS for a straight year it won't harm it. First, the DS is millions of units ahead of the PSP. Even if its a top seller it would take years for the PSP to surpass the DS. Second, despite some big sellers there are barely any games on the best sellers list. Finally, Dragon Quest IX. ON DS.

So there's nothing to worry about. Hell, the real competition is between Wii and PS3 and they are still ahead of Sony.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: Mop it up on March 14, 2009, 03:49:23 PM
I just sold my DS. There's one less sale that Nintendo is going to receive.
If for some reason nobody had ever sold their DS systems, I wonder how much higher DS sales would have been...
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 09, 2009, 09:18:36 AM
I hardly think Nintendo cares...

Quote
Speaking at the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Japan, Iwata claimed that the DSi had sold evenly across both regions; 300,000 units in the US, 300,000 in Europe, all during the handheld’s launch weekend.

Joining Iwata at the Correspondents' Club was Mr Miyamoto, who spoke again of plans to turn the DSL and DSi into useful tools for school teachers. The handhelds will be used to conduct customised tests for pupils, he claimed.

Miyamoto also wants the DS to provide local maps, tour guidance, virtual coupons and other such tools. "Convenience in life will be enhanced by having a DS," Miyamoto said.
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Nintendo really is after a different market than Sony & MS. They wanted the living room & Nintendo wants your whole LIFE. Who would of thought that Sony wasn't aiming high enough?
Title: Famitsu - DS Million Sellers List
Post by: SalesBot on May 21, 2009, 12:41:26 PM
Nintendo DS Million Sellers JPN (Famitsu)

NDS - Pokémon Diamond/Pearl  5.652.043
NDS - New Super Mario Bros. 5.489.000
NDS - Brain Age 2 5.000.391
NDS - Animal Crossing 4.999.000
NDS - Brain Age 3.776.263
NDS - Mario Kart DS 3.436.000
NDS - Pokémon Platinum 2.406.000
NDS - English Training 2.163.328
NDS - Nintendogs 1.886.892
NDS - Mario Party DS 1.870.730
NDS - Rhythm Tengoku Gold 1.718.000
NDS - General Knowledge Training 1.569.882
NDS - Big Brain Academy 1.549.913
NDS - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness/Time 1.506.952
NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 1.467.179
NDS - Tetris DS 1.317.413
NDS - Dragon Quest IV 1.214.610
NDS - Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride 1.189.064
NDS - WarioWare: Touched! 1.136.255
NDS - Super Mario 64 DS 1.133.678
NDS - Kirby Squeak Squad 1.116.424
NDS - Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop 1.110.046
NDS - Kirby Super Star Ultra 1.092.000
NDS - Love & Berry DS 1.055.821
NDS - Final Fantasy III 1.008.230
NDS - Yoshi's Island DS 1.001.014

Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on May 21, 2009, 02:06:41 PM
Are you sure that list is accurate?  I thought DQ V outsold DQ IV by quite a bit.  Also, where's FF IV?  I thought that sold like gang-busters in Japan?
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 21, 2009, 04:25:13 PM
Are you sure that list is accurate?  I thought DQ V outsold DQ IV by quite a bit.  Also, where's FF IV?  I thought that sold like gang-busters in Japan?

According to Square Enix themselves, they have sold 610K copies of Final Fantasy IV in Japan as of December 31, 2008 and a total of 1.08 million worldwide.

The Dragon Quest V number is a off by a little, it's at 1,228,014 in Japan and Dragon Quest IV is at 1.19 million. Famitsu numbers are usually off (either a little higher or a little lower). Media Create is more reliable, Famitsu is only used because they release data for more games.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: vudu on May 22, 2009, 02:05:14 PM
The Dragon Quest V number is a off by a little, it's at 1,228,014 in Japan and Dragon Quest IV is at 1.19 million.

Really?  I could have sworn I read that DQ V outsold DQ IV by a considerable margin (like, 2:1) in Japan.  Oh well, guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: Official DS Sales Thread
Post by: King of Twitch on July 03, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
Was it posted here somewhere before that Mario Kart DS jumped the charts recently? I just saw a MK + DSi commercial and thought it was amusing.