Topic: Episode 403: Je Te Plumerai le Text

[Jonnyboy117]

Sorry, the Box Hunter is out this week. Instead, a friendly tiger joins our circus!

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rfn/38839/episode-403-je-te-plumerai-le-text

Anyone hoping for a tribute to the worst episode ever is going to be disappointed this week, but listeners hoping for a ton of exciting Nintendo discussion are in for a Halloween treat! Our special guest is Josh Hillyer, who you might know from Back in My Play and a recent guest spot on Player One Podcast. His specialized knowledge includes the "Bodda Getta" cheer.

New Business kicks off (HEY!) with the brand new 3DS game, Shantae and the Pirate's Curse. Jonny has been very critical of previous games in this series, but WayForward's latest adventure is a major improvement and certainly one of the year's best 3DS games. Josh goes next with his thoughts on another contender for the playoffs, Smash Bros. for 3DS. It's an interesting week to reflect on this game in light of Nintendo finally revealing the Wii U version, but more on that later. Guillaume takes one for the team by digging up Wii Music -- did we judge it too harshly in 2008? ...maybe not. JON LINDEMANN UNWRAPS, INSTALLS, AND PLAYS SKYRIM. This potentially relates to the next Zelda game, but it's also an important milestone in his personal journey. Finally, we punt back to Josh for his recommendation of Kirby Triple Deluxe, the overlooked platformer from earlier this year.

After making a few adjustments, we're back in action to run down the highlights from Nintendo's latest (last?) Smash Bros. Direct. In a video rolling off more than 50 new facts about the game, quite a few were big surprises. Our main purpose here is to set hype levels for the upcoming Wii U version, and it's clear that Nintendo has shifted the momentum. The podcast finishes strong with a fun, philosophical debate on the concept of "artistic intent" in video games, inspired by Patrick Klepek's recent article about The Evil Within's unusual aspect ratio. Though we may disagree in the end, we'd all give two bits, four bits, six bits, even a whole dollar to hear more critical discussion about games as art, especially with all the recent, unsportsmanlike conduct surrounding video games.

We ran out the clock before getting to Listener Mail, but there's always next time. Show your podcast spirit by sending in a great question or topic! Also, you can join the booster club for sick kids by donating early to Child's Play as we mentally prepare for the 5th Annual NWR Charity Telethon on Saturday, November 8! Finally, you should go for the extra points by reading Josh Hillyer's short novel Train of Thought on Amazon and flying down the field to his games writing company, Bonus Star Consulting.

[TrueNerd]

I'm always initially disappointed when one of the main four hosts isn't there, but this was a great episode. Felt like Josh had been doing this show with you guys for years. And he's smart! Feel free to bring him back in the future.

[Crimm]

I made my presence felt. That's all

[Soren]

I find it odd that artists would get hung up about aspect ratio being an integral part of their creative intent, specifically because not all people digest entertainment the same way. While 75% of US households now have HDTVs, there's still a portion of the population that hasn't made the switch, and TV channels still operate SD versions. Were broadcasters violating artistic intent by asking production companies for formatted versions of movies that would look well on 480 TV sets back in the day? What about other countries around the world that may have lower HDTV adoption rates? If you have a product that cost a ton of money to make (I assume Evil Within is) you want it to be able to appeal to a large base of people. Getting pissy about aspect ratio seems pointless. Hell, Bethesda can't even get it right, as they insist the ration is 2.35 to 1 when Digital Foundry found it was 2.50 to 1.


Great discussion guys.

[famicomplicated]

Always nice to get a mention on RFN.


Cheers Lindy!

[Leo13]

Quoted directly from the official SMash Bros Website
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[Owozifa]

I usually just tweet cuz I'm lazy, but I guess I'll finally make an account. I tried to tweet once on this subject, but everything just comes out like caveman grunts when you try to express a complex thought. I have a very specific thing to respond to.


Jonny said something like he wished that artists didn't have technical limitations. I disagree, and here's why.
I think limitations are one of the most fascinating aspects of art, and perhaps organic ones are even moreso than those that are self-imposed. It's an interesting thing that The Artist filmed in black and white and silent. Those were choices that were made. They didn't have to do that. I think what's even more interesting is looking at actual silent films and how artists strained against those limitations they had no control over. There's something about that that gives art its character for me. The fact that putting black bars on the game was a concession to performance somehow just makes it more interesting. I have some of the same feelings about the look of Alan Wake, which had to nip and tuck in various ways in order to achieve their lighting and fog tech. The game has a very unique look because of that.
Now it's not always going to be the case that limitations enhance art. It's more about how you address them. Obviously the poor framerate in the original Shadow of the Colossus on PS2 is hard to love and even harder to miss, but I just think there is something lost to the artistic process if our imaginations just became unfettered and never had to go through the sometimes agonizing process of actually being manifested.

[Owozifa]

"I wish that we could get to a place in video games, where decisions like this are made purely for artistic reasons, there are no technical limitations."


-That's the exact quote, transcribed word for word, so I don't get in trouble for paraphrasing.


Greg Sewart over at Player One brought up another good example - Star Wars vs. Prequels. Freed from technical and financial limitations, George Lucas' artistic intent was kinda poop.

[Fatty The Hutt]

The SW prequels are a good example, I was thinking of those, too.
Another one is Jaws. The shark never worked that well and it was too expensive to constantly fix so they just didn't show it a lot. Which ended up being great because it built up a lot of tension and mystery until the "big reveal" of "we're gonna need a bigger boat".

[InvaderREN]

I think you only skimmed over the best announcement: Tournaments.


Presumably, you can set up an online tournament and then we just enter the one code to "join in.
Why arrange a weekly session with friends, when you can have a weekly tournament with anyone who is interested!
This, combined with what appears to be pretty good online play (if the 3DS is anything to go by), will be a fantastic way to spend an evening. If for example, it was a NWR tournament, I;m sure you could meet fellow Smashers and add them as friends afterwards, if you wanted.
I think ultimately, tournaments is what will give this game some serious legs.

[azeke]

I don't know why John was so impressed with Skyrim on PC working with a controller flawlessly.

As PC gamer who mostly stopped playing on keyboard and mouse, it's a must. Have been that way for many, many, many years.