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Mafia 73: Phoenix Wright: Turnabout Mafia: Endgame thread.
that Baby guy:
At the end of each game, I usually post advice, mafia or not, that would be helpful for the general player.
I've got a few pieces here. First, decentralize information! Don't ever rely on one player to make all the decisions, and don't rely on one player to hold all the information. In my case, as godfather, I was able to control just about any real information in the game, but even when there's not a circumstance with a mafia godfather, if the game is centralized on one player, then there is a great risk of the mafia hitting said player each and every night. If one player controls it all, the townie alliances are lost. Decentralized information also disallows a lying player from reaching too far. If nickmitch had shared the results of the second night's investgation with another player, or even stated who he investigated in Day 3's thread, I wouldn't have been able to claim he told me, and only me this investigation.
Additionally, the doctor, as a townie player, can actually wield an immense amount of power, especially if he has self-protections. Imagine being able to safely message a few random players at the beginning of the game. Tell them that you're the doctor, and that you intend to investigate them on this night. As the night passes, they make the move I do. Boom, suddenly, there's a dead townie killed by the mafia. Furthermore, if Khushrenada had picked three players to share this message to, and I had killed myself, he'd suddenly find much, much more reason to trust the other two players. Past that, if he told it to three players, and more than one of them were in the mafia, he would stand a chance at psyching them out of hitting him, imagining he's a townie just aiming to get reactions, especially since it would be clear he's drawing attention to himself.
The biggest thing I learned from this game? For the mafia, it isn't always about persuading the majority. It was clear this group of townies refused to work with each other. Refused to have discussions. Refused to work things out. They all saw something obvious, that Insanolord and BeautifulShy were mafia, but refused to accept that any of them were at fault when day after day, these players still wound up alive, surviving the day's vote. These players played right into our hands. We didn't have to convince them, on the whole, that they were wrong late into the game. I only once made an argument that Insanolord and BeautifulShy weren't mafia. While the mafia had solidarity, the townies had disharmony to an extreme I don't know if I've seen before, so I only needed to focus my efforts on gaining one or two votes to vote out a townie each day.
Mafia isn't a guessing game. It's a game of politics, deception, and intrigue. This time around, I played the politician. I had a base of a few townies, and told them what they wanted to hear. I had a plan. I had a solution for everything. By the time any one player had enough information that they would realize with enough certainty to act what I was doing, they were out of the game... But had there been contact by these people outside of my group, I'd have been figured out by Day 4, and the entire mafia would have likely lost, depending on how well Mop it up kept a cover, which we had started to do away with anyway, given our fourth-day plan.
TOPHATANT123:
Good game everyone!
Fatty The Hutt:
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--- Quote from: Fatty The Hutt on May 03, 2017, 11:54:51 AM --- As for my self-sacrifice play on Day 2, I got tripped up by thread closing. I had hoped to sway some votes toward Mop it up, who I was pretty sure by then was Mafia, but I put up my impassioned plea way too close to thread-closing time. I had read the timestamps incorrectly.
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Ah, that explains it! I was wondering why you didn't tie it up to save yourself. I was actually sad that Thatguy chose you to vote out, I was enjoying your character.
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Thanks! That's probably my favourite part of any Mafia game is taking a character and hamming it up (not that I've played too many Mafia games ... yet). I had fun hamming it up as Extreme French-Bird Jacques in the Animal Crossing New Leaf Mafia too. I love the role-play that people get into.
Manly_Eyepatch:
--- Quote from: Fatty The Hutt on May 05, 2017, 10:52:33 AM --- That's probably my favourite part of any Mafia game is taking a character and hamming it up (not that I've played too many Mafia games ... yet). I had fun hamming it up as Extreme French-Bird Jacques in the Animal Crossing New Leaf Mafia too. I love the role-play that people get into.
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Role-playing? Hamming it up? What are you, some kind of sissy?
You listen up, buddy boy-o, we got an important job to do. We're fighting for Freedom, for Democracy, for everything that's still good in this God-forsaken world! I don't need my soldiers wasting their time mimby-pambying around like some kind of cabaret dancer. Shape up, Bucko!
Wah:
So Khush who's hosting the next game?