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Khushrenada:


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--- Quote from: Evan_B on February 07, 2017, 06:33:46 PM ---The fact that you feel the need to gloat is absurd and does not sit well with your heroin addict analogy at all.

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Any gloating (which will of course be made in jest) is entirely motivated by my making a valid hypothesis built on logic and reason and then being roundly shouted down and chastised.

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Oh man. You realize then that going by your heroin addiction analogy, you are basically saying that you will be gloating to your family about how right you were and wrong they were when the third cousin encounters these dangers of heroin addiction. That... is not a good stance to take in such a matter. I can't see any family where that makes you look good. Therefore, the analogy is not good as Evan_B was trying to point out.


--- Quote ---This is why Trump is your president.

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This statement also makes no sense. It has nothing to do with the part of the post you quoted and seems to have been made to be possibly inflammatory. As established, the heroin analogy is flawed in comparison to the actual situation of how much and how fast the Switch might sell. If a person has gone through a situation with a close friend or loved one who has gone through a battle with addiction they either lost or overcame through a long, tough, struggle, the personal trauma they experienced during that time will not be close to how they or anyone should or would feel to how good or bad the Switch sells. Therefore, by pointing out, again, the erroneous comparison of arguing about a person with an addiction problem to arguing about potential switch sales and how it could be seen as insensitive, what does that have to do with Trump winning the presidency? There is no relation. You do yourself no favors when you say make posts on logic and reason and then add statements and comments like this that show none.

Phil:

I'm not a hater, but I will gloat when I'm right? Well, might not be a hater, but it makes you a petty jerk, which is worse. And then does "this is why Trump is your president?"

Get some damn perspective, son. Get away from your keyboard for a few days and cool down.

Oedo:

According to a TIME interview with Kimishima, "launch day preorders have nearly reached the maximum available," and Nintendo is increasing its production of Switch. With respect to the UK, market factors outside of Nintendo's control have led to retailers pricing the Switch much higher than they would have a year ago (which is no doubt having an impact on preorders, as RFN's own Greg Leahy can attest to). From an objective, fact-based perspective, I don't see how you can view the overall pre-release position of Switch as anything other than positive.

Stogi:

Pre-orders are sold out in Virginia.

Ebay prices are creeping up for guaranteed switch pre-orders as well.


MagicCow64:


--- Quote from: Khushrenada on February 07, 2017, 06:54:36 PM ---Well-stated examination of the current state of video games vis a vis criticism

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I agree with everything you've written. From one perspective, you could argue that this is all part of the growing pains of any new medium, and that it took decades to develop the technique and language surrounding motion pictures, for instance, which started off as hand-cranked novelty exhibitions.

But with video games as a modern phenomenon, it really seems like the consumers, producers, and commentators are locked in an unhealthy hermetic ecosystem. I've heard anecdotally from friends in academia that critical studies of video games were starting to pick up steam, but got kneecapped by the Gamergate "movement".

At the same time, the product is becoming more and more overdetermined by multiplayer and online  considerations (including streamers) on the one hand, in which it's hard to describe something like Overwatch or Destiny as "art" (are sports art? are board games?), and on the other hand by semi-interactive theme park attraction games that are perversely trying to focus on narrative and eschew the actual foundational and unique elements of the medium. As you say, I think Nintendo is one of the few major producers still doing it right (at least part of the time).

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