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| Ceric:
I have the DVD with the Theatrical cut when Hans shoots first its the quickest solution to a problem. The least amount of risk for the maximum reward at the time. Smuggler Calculation. |
| toddra:
--- Quote from: gbuell on October 31, 2012, 04:58:16 PM ---I think Han was justified, but it still changes his character to have fired in DIRECT REACTION to a shot from Greedo, rather than shooting preemptively. Han shooting first shows a higher level of resolve and coldbloodedness, even though it is justified. --- End quote --- That makes a little more sense than it goes from being a bad guy to good guy in an single instant. Still many people faced with that situation would still not take the shot. The gun was drawn still means he had to think fast, kill or be killed. At least that was how I saw it, even as a kid when I didn't know any better. |
| Fatty The Hutt:
--- Quote from: NWR_insanolord on October 31, 2012, 04:30:08 PM --- --- Quote from: Fatty_The_Hutt on October 31, 2012, 04:23:33 PM --- --- Quote from: NWR_insanolord on October 31, 2012, 04:13:37 PM ---That's basically what they already were. Aside from Anakin/Vader, they were the only characters to appear in all six movies. --- End quote --- and obi-wan --- End quote --- Sure, if you count very minor cameos in Empire and RotJ. --- End quote --- I do count them. Cameos? OK, sort of. Minor? I definitely think not. |
| toddra:
How was Obi Wan's role in Jedi minor? He had almost as much dialog and screen time in that as he did A New Hope. Even in Empire, he was only there for a couple of shots but they were in no way minor. Minor would be like when they put someone in the back ground just for the hell of it to stir up the fans, like ET. |
| bustin98:
--- Quote from: toddra on October 31, 2012, 05:10:53 PM ---That makes a little more sense than it goes from being a bad guy to good guy in an single instant. Still many people faced with that situation would still not take the shot. The gun was drawn still means he had to think fast, kill or be killed. At least that was how I saw it, even as a kid when I didn't know any better. --- End quote --- Another fact you aren't taking into consideration is that Han had his gun drawn under the table. At least Greedo had his threat right in Han's face, and was unaware of the threat directed at him. The idea was the Han was a despicable person who was involved with other despicable people, and he fit right in. Having Han wait until the shot was fired means he wasn't as despicable as previously thought. It means that if Greedo didn't shoot, he wasn't going to shoot. But Han not waiting means he was going to shoot regardless of the actions taken by Greedo. Han was found in a bar and he wanted to escape and have his location unknown by Jabba. Killing Greedo was the only way to enforce that. |
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