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oohhboy:
Two games from Nintendo, each with only one show stopping bug is enough to shake your faith in them?!? I just have to ask how much faith you had in them in the first place. Metroid isn't dead. At worse it's being left fallow. It got over exposed and Retro should be given the opportunity to make something different. It will get rotated back in good time.
Buggy games this bad shouldn't be tolerated no matter who makes them. It doesn't matter if a painting might be the best thing ever painted if the picture is peeling off the canvas. It doesn't matter how awesome a house is if it doesn't have a proper foundation and it's the same with games. Bethesda has released so many outrageously buggy games to the point where it's a meme for buggy/broken games, like Valve' delays with it's "Valve time".
**** like this is a classic case of Battered person syndrome. Gamers keep playing nice in hopes of bug fixes while Bethesda continues to openly abuse the relationship. Even Stockholm syndrome is a better relationship since the hostages get to go home after it's over.
Point(s) should be docked for obviously buggy games. If nothing else, it would provide a good incentive for companies to release less buggy games since for a lot of companies those first 2 weeks are where the big sales are made. I don't see why reviews give a pass on bugs found in a game. It's in the game, it's part of the game, it most certainly affects gameplay especially when they stop you from playing the game.
Chozo Ghost:
--- Quote from: oohhboy on December 04, 2011, 07:42:52 AM ---Two games from Nintendo, each with only one show stopping bug is enough to shake your faith in them?!?
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Not just because of the bugs. I could have looked past that as long as Metroid: Other M were as good as all the other games in the Metroid series. It wasn't though. Even if you take that one bug out of consideration the game is still garbage, and that's what shook my faith, because that game has the Nintendo name attached to it and I expected better.
Its the equivalent of some great painter who has been putting out masterpieces for decades, but then all of the sudden he releases some piece of crap done in crayons and colored outside of the lines and looks like some little kid made, yet it has his name attached to it and it is his latest work. Wouldn't this come as a shock?
Tamazoid:
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--- Quote from: Tamazoid on December 04, 2011, 05:38:26 AM ---a certain action that a fraction of gamers would take that's why the game testers missed it.
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*Sigh* I thought I already addressed this.
Well, I'm not again. If you don't get it then you are just like Reggie, Sakamoto, and Iwata, because apparently they don't get it either. Only a fraction of Other M players would play the game like a Metroid game? If that is what Nintendo believes then its doubtful they will make a good Metroid game ever again. Now that Retro is no longer making Metroid games, that's it. The franchise is dead.
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What's with your Reggie hate? I didn't know Reggie has a say in the production of Nintendo games. Reggie is purely PR for NA and would have limited say in the running of Nintendo Japan. Your irrational hatred of Reggie is quite amusing.
Nintendo obviously attempted to take the Metroid series into a new direction in Other M and it failed. You can't complain that Nintendo are just sticking to the same formula as many people complain. If one bad game kills a franchise Sonic should be dead buried and gone.
Chozo Ghost:
Reggie has nothing to do with the production of the games, but he is responsible for the marketing. He is on record saying the game didn't meet his expectations, and apparently he doesn't understand why. That's why I said he didn't get it. I seriously doubt he even played the game personally and I also doubt he is a long time fan of the series, so that's why he wouldn't understand why people didn't like it. I don't blame Reggie for this so much as Sakamoto because he is the one who made it and should have known better. Reggie can sorta be excused for not knowing better, but really it is his job to understand what gamers want and if he isn't a gamer himself then he needs to start being one, or else go back to VH1 where he came from.
broodwars:
Well, I think I've finally hit it: the bug that will lead to me stopping play immediately, trading the game in, and never playing the game again. The crashes I can deal with, as annoying as they are. But early on in the Thieves Guild quest line, you're given a set of what to me were pretty useless Thieves Guild Armor. I couldn't be bothered to trudge all the way back to my house to store it, so I sold it to the local Thieves Guild fencer.
Well, it turns out that very fencer is also the person who upgrades your armor, and until she can upgrade your armor she can't be used as a fencer anymore. To make matters even better, you apparently CAN'T complete the Thieves Guild quest line without a piece of Thieves Guild armor, and that's the only set of its kind in the game. I can't complete this quest line and I can't get the trophy for restoring the Thieves Guild now. I am beyond angry now, because it means all the time I've already put into this quest line and all the time I was going to put into it have been a complete waste of time. Considering all the useless crap the game labels as "quest items" you can't get rid of if you wanted to, these armor pieces weren't considered important enough to force the player to keep?
**** this game. I'm done. I'm done with Bethesda's B.S. I'll give them a few weeks to fix this bug, but otherwise this game becomes trade-in credit. I have completely had it with their horrible programming.