Killing Dragons and Stuff (Skyrim)

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broodwars:
Well, if I was angry at Bethesda before for their repeatedly abysmal programming, that was nothing compared to how pissed off I am at them now.

I decided to go back to Skyrim after just getting bored with Skyward Sword's End Game content, and after quite a few hours I was making some good progress. I killed several dragons; giants; and mammoths, and fulfilled several quests west of that first town. Then I decided to head north to Winterhold so I could finally obtain some new spells. It was a harrowing journey that involved killing several more dragons and a very irate snow bear. But I did it and reached the College at Winterhold. I start the opening quest and...another dragon attacks. The dragon attack then proceeds to completely break that first quest, as the person I'm supposed to be following around just walks around saying I can talk to her when she's done showing me around. But as far as her AI routine is concerned, she's done. That entire quest line is locked to me, and it turns out my last manual save was 3 hours prior.

This, Bethesda, is why I constantly complain that it's ridiculous how reviewers and the public let you get away with murder and release games with shoddy programming just because they're "big". I can hear people saying already that "well, you should have saved more often." **** that. It's not my job to have to work around Bethesda's constantly terrible bugs, and this is after the latest PS3 patch (which, incidentally, I still see framerate hitches on). Ugh...3 hours of content and quite a lot of nasty battles won down the drain. Thanks a lot, Bethesda, for being incredibly bad at what you do.

Morari:
If you played on the PC, you could just bring the console down and reset that one actor. There are benefits to having control and access over a product. ;)

bustin98:
I am on my 3rd character, just because I end up running off to the end of the world and get way in over my head. And I whenever I see an article about quickly leveling up I think 'wouldn't that be a better way to start the game?' One character contracted vampirism and I read online that I had to go to winterhold to the talos shrine, not realizing the exact same thing is in Whiterun. I got to Winterhold without much trouble but then my adventures after that got boring, and somewhere I lost my companion. My second character started off much better. Till I attacked the fort near Solitude where the guy was imprisoned by the imperials... got inside the fort by running, no way do I expect to get the guy out without him or me dying. So... third time the charm?

broodwars:

--- Quote from: Morari on November 30, 2011, 10:22:23 AM ---If you played on the PC, you could just bring the console down and reset that one actor. There are benefits to having control and access over a product. ;)

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You have the 3 auto-saves on the console version, but by the time I saw that the quest was actually broken (the character was continuing to walk in pattern as if the quest was still working) those 3 were used up and the damage was done.

Chozo Ghost:
The old leading a monster into a town and people get killed by it routine is nothing new. Oblivion had that problem, and so did Fallout 3 and probably every other open world RPG Bethesda has ever made.

I remember in Fallout 3 those caravan dudes would often end up dead due to Yao Guai or Radscorpions or whatever attacking them randomly out in the wasteland. Many times you would never even know what happened. They would just fail to show up at their designated place at the usual time. Sometimes their pack Brahmin and/or guard would show up though, but with the merchant dead there was no way to do business. I used up stealthboys to reverse pickpocket better weapons and armor onto them to try to improve their survivability, and I think that did help, but they still ended up dead regardless. There's no doubting the wasteland is a dangerous place so them ending up dead is perfectly reasonable... I just hated when it happened.

--- Quote from: Morari on November 30, 2011, 10:22:23 AM ---If you played on the PC, you could just bring the console down and reset that one actor. There are benefits to having control and access over a product. ;)

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Yes and no. Being able to correct bugs and glitches is nice, but having this omnipotent power can also ruin a game because people may be tempted to use that power to cheat by giving themselves infinite life or making enemies instantly die or what have you.

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