Wii U - e3 is over... now what?

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Sarail:

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--- Quote from: bustin98 on June 11, 2013, 02:49:17 PM ---I came away feeling that Nintendo is tired of making games. Just rehashes. Play it safe, serve the norm. Uninspired. Now, I do like the upside down tracks in Mario Kart, though I did not play MK on Wii so I may have missed something there.

I love Nintendo's hardware designs, but man, the software limitations that are imposed due to the developers catering to the other manufacturers is killing me.

The Crew reminds me of the latest Need For Speed. The takedowns of the bosses are the weakest part of that game. And now here is a game of nothing but takedowns.

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Isn't it less of developers catering toward Sony/MS and more Nintendo not developing their console in line with the others power wise.

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Wrong. Nintendo has always been the "least powerful" or the "odd one out". Developers simply cater more towards the other consoles these days and that stigma will probably never end.

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Wrong. The NES, SuperNES, N64, and GameCube were not the weakest of their respective generations. It wasn't until the Wii that Nintendo decided a new console strategy.

ShyGuy:
I have a theory that we will see another Nintendo Direct with Call of Duty and Yoshi Yarn.

BranDonk Kong:

--- Quote from: Racht on June 11, 2013, 06:58:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Oblivion on June 11, 2013, 03:08:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: shingi_70 on June 11, 2013, 03:05:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: bustin98 on June 11, 2013, 02:49:17 PM ---I came away feeling that Nintendo is tired of making games. Just rehashes. Play it safe, serve the norm. Uninspired. Now, I do like the upside down tracks in Mario Kart, though I did not play MK on Wii so I may have missed something there.

I love Nintendo's hardware designs, but man, the software limitations that are imposed due to the developers catering to the other manufacturers is killing me.

The Crew reminds me of the latest Need For Speed. The takedowns of the bosses are the weakest part of that game. And now here is a game of nothing but takedowns.

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Isn't it less of developers catering toward Sony/MS and more Nintendo not developing their console in line with the others power wise.

--- End quote ---

Wrong. Nintendo has always been the "least powerful" or the "odd one out". Developers simply cater more towards the other consoles these days and that stigma will probably never end.

--- End quote ---
Wrong. The NES, SuperNES, N64, and GameCube were not the weakest of their respective generations. It wasn't until the Wii that Nintendo decided a new console strategy.

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Depends how you define "weak." SNES beat Genesis in most departments, but the Genesis had a much faster CPU. The Master System was much more powerful than the NES.

Mannypon:
Ignore this post, I've gone and created a thread specifically for this discussion.

smallsharkbigbite:

--- Quote from: Ian Sane on June 11, 2013, 01:37:56 PM ---
I don't have a Wii U because there is no new gameplay experiences that it is providing. It is the Wii HD that Pachter kept predicting. It's just Wii games with PS3 visuals, just in time for those visuals to be a generation behind. It's mostly all safe conventional sequels, the type that ten years ago Nintendo seemingly didn't make. Nintendo detractors used to point to all the Mario games on the shelf and accuse Nintendo of being cookie-cutter rehashers and I would defend them because I knew they made each sequel count and tried new things. But now I feel like a fool because they became the rehashers.

This console has no third party support. Nintendo is slow to create new games for it and they fail to demonstrate the merits of the Gamepad with their new games and fail to provide anything that has not been done to death already on older Nintendo systems. There is little market for cookie-cutter Nintendo sequels with 2006 visuals. NSMB was a massive system seller on the 3DS and has not done dick all for the Wii U so I don't see why other safe conventional sequels will do any different. The Wii U is done. Nintendo ducked E3 because they had nothing. The Wii U will have an abysmal Christmas and will be discontinued in 2014.

Nintendo has transformed into a sequel factory. This is the type of company Nintendo has decided to be, no different than EA or Activision.

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I get being negative on the Wii U, but it's not true that Wii U is Wii HD. If anything it's Gamecube HD. You would like it so much more because the Wii U actually moves away from motion controls which was my biggest complaint with the Wii. It felt like they tried to smash all games with motion controls. NSMB U is 10x better because the Gamepad is a standard controller with a screen on it. The pro controller can be used in most traditional games. Yeah, Nintendoland uses Wii controllers. You can avoid motion control completely with the Wii U if you want. That's why it's not = Wii HD, and the games that are on it are very good. They don't have a lot, so I understand not wanting to purchase it, but not because it's Wii HD.

Use the Gamepad as a standard controller. Yeah, paying for a screen that you don't want sucks, but the Wii came out at $250, $300 isn't bad for a Nintendo HD system. And surprisingly, I use the offscreen play alot. Sure, not the greatest use, but the controller is $100 in Japan where they sell it. Controllers are $50 here, so it's not like $300 is in the Gamepad.

Do you like games? Yes, Nintendo is having sequelitis, but the most of the industry is doing the same thing. I think you'll start to see more innovation, but it takes time. They really tried in the Gamecube era and I see them doing the same thing here. Also, you're likely to see a greatest hits and cheap prices on Nintendo games. Gamecube had a players choice after a year, Wii had one after 5 years because they were selling well. There is value here. Sure, it doesn't get all the games, but this isn't a bad system. And there is no way Nintendo discontinues it next year.

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