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Game Over: One final rant...
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vudu:

--- Quote from: pap64 on January 25, 2009, 03:07:41 PM ---One time, back when the Brawl forum was still around I was in an argument with someone (don't remember who) and that person called me a hypocrite. When I warned a mod about it all he said was "Eh, it was a mild insult". Whether the insult was harsh or mild it was still a personal attack, and those are against the rules.
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I only vaguely recall this incident, but I'm inclined to agree with the mod on this one.  Someone calling you a hypocrite isn't a direct insult.  It sounds like someone disagreed with you and you went crying to mommy.  Mommy told you to grow a pair.  (Believe it or not, I don't mean this in a rude way--it's just the only way I can think to describe it.)

If someone called you a moron for saying two different things at different times it's an insult.  If someone calls you a hypocrite for the same reason it's not an insult, they're just calling you out.
Kairon:

--- Quote from: stevey on January 24, 2009, 09:26:12 PM ---After the last E3, no one here has or at lease shows their love for Nintendo anymore.

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T_T

Kairon's first ever blog post: Retaking 'Fanboi'

from the talkback thread:

--- Quote from: Kairon on September 05, 2008, 02:52:56 AM ---Myself, I self-identify as a fanboi, I was positively GIDDY at Nintendo's E3 2008 conference (yeah? what? So there!)

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Does it mean nothing that I call Animal Crossing a CORE game and Wii Music is the VERY NEXT game I intend to buy?
EasyCure:
So I finally got around to reading that FF XIII thread that keeps being mentioned (i've never, EVER been into FF games and rarely go into the general gaming boards since I only own Nintendo consoles) and... wow. What a train wreck.

Personally I thought Bill/Deg were being treated unfairly because of the complete dismissal of Ians troll-post. Yes, it was trolling because as stated it had nothing to do with the topic at hand, and a troll doesn't neccesiarily have to mean someone who attacks others, one could get away with trolling by simply flaming others and be the one attacked and have no ramifications set against themselves; see Pale's comments to Bill & Deg, yet nothing was said to Ian who really never returned to the thread (as far as we know).

That ymeegod person was pretty rude as well and no one did anything.

This next statement might be more of an emotional response due to reading that thread AFTER what happened and its end results, but... Pale came off as kind of 'fanboyish' and if i were in a position where i felt like my back was against a wall becuase my views were opposite of his, I might of been just a litle more upset that an obvious troll was being overlooked and I was the one being picked on.
NWR_Lindy:
Yes, we read every single moderator report that comes in.  I can assure you of that.  However, Pale is the Community Manager, and I defer to him because I think he does a great job.

Understand that in order to get perma-banned, you have to REALLY try hard.  We don't ban people without cause, we don't do it on a whim, and we don't get any pleasure out of doing it (frankly, it's a bunch of drama we don't need).  Mario misbehaved repeatedly.  Being facetious is one thing, but coming in and dropping f-bombs for no reason whatsoever is entirely another.  He absolutely deserved to be banned.  His tenure here doesn't entitle him to a blank check in terms of his behavior.

As for Ian, from what I see people don't like his opinions.  I'm not going to ban anybody on this forum for their opinions.  That goes against the very nature of what these forums stand for.  Myself and the staff have watched Ian for a long time, and if he was breaking rules all over the place he'd already be gone.  He doesn't launch personal attacks, he really doesn't swear, and he does raise points.  I'm not defending the guy, but I am being fair.  In all honesty, I've seen many occasions when Ian will actually raise a good point, only to be attacked with vitriol by several people who are reacting based on their opinion of him rather than what he has actually posted.  It takes two to tango in any flame war.  Some people simply refuse to walk away from an argument and agree to disagree, and would rather stoke the flames in a fruitless effort to prove that they're right instead of defusing the situation.

With that said, if somebody thinks somebody else is trolling, please use the Report to Moderator feature.  That's what it's there for.  For all of the complaining that people do about Ian, I can't recall any of the offended parties ever reporting his posts to us.  If I'm wrong here forgive me, but I get all moderator reports in email and I look at every single one.  I can't be in every thread, but I do get every email.

I can't directly control whether or not people stay or leave this forum.  That's up to them.  Instead, I'm going to focus on what I can control: the quality of Nintendo coverage we have, the timeliness of news, the quality and quantity of reviews, and the quality and quantity of special features.  And rest assured that I am dedicated to improving all of those things.  However, it will take time and effort.  You guys may not see the effort from your vantage point, but it's happening.  It will take some time to bear fruit, but the seeds are being planted.  I hope you all stick around to see it.
Stogi:
Not going to lie...I thought Bill was stronger than this. He was always known to me as the biggest Nintendo fan on here. In most topics in the past, it was always Ian with the pessimism and Bill with the optimism.

Nothing's changed. It's weird for him to all the sudden be fed up with it, especially considering the state of Nintendo today.


I'm honestly disappointed.
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