Author Topic: Sad times [my XBOX360 died] (Read 13071 times)

GoldenPhoenix · « **on:** January 20, 2008, 03:30:28 PM »

My Xbox 360 Elite finally died today. It was looking pretty sick so I'm not surprised. Believe it or not it was NOT the red rings of doom. In fact I got no red lights. At first it would take 10 seconds or so for my 360 console to even start booting, and that time got longer and longer. Now it won't even boot at all even when the green power light is on (It won't read the controller either), and after a couple minutes it shuts itself off. So now I have to 3-5 days to get the return box and up to 3 weeks for it to be sent back. Sad times. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

ShyGuy · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:40:18 PM »

Hahaha! normally I would feel sorry for you, but that avatar drains all the sympathy from me.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:50:44 PM »

It was bound to happen eventually, one way or another.

I know your 360 didn't die by RRoD, but I feel this article may still be relevant.
Inside Source Reveal the Truth About Xbox 360 "Red Ring of Death" Failures

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They would rationalize that if the first few million boxes had a high failure rate, a few 10's of millions of dollars would cover it. And contrasting that cost with a big lead on Sony, would pay it in a heartbeat. They weren't even thinking about Nintendo.

They would rationalize that if the first few million boxes had a high failure rate, a few 10's of millions of dollars would cover it. And contrasting that cost with a big lead on Sony, would pay it in a heartbeat. They weren't even thinking about Nintendo.

There are also other significantly high failure rates in other areas, like the DVD.

bustin98 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2008, 05:02:49 PM »

It has happened to all of us. We feel your pain. Hopefully it won't happen a second time.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2008, 05:19:13 PM »

Well, all I have to say is...You wouldn't be a 360 owner if your console didn't die at least once!

IceCold · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2008, 06:43:45 PM »

And that's why I'm not a 360 owner (well, among many reasons).

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2008, 06:48:25 PM »

The customer service was pretty good, so I can't complain about that. Then again I'm not thrilled about a 3 week delay, but at least I didn't need to jump through some hoops to get it replaced. Kind of odd that I didn't get any red errors, never heard of a 360 with quite this problem.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2008, 11:11:30 PM »

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Hahaha! normally I would feel sorry for you, but that avatar drains all the sympathy from me.

I bet the man in the avatar is responsible for the malfunction when he attempted to grill a sandwich on the power supply.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2008, 02:19:31 AM »

Well GP when my 360 died I sent it out to the UPS store on roughly about Dec 7th and I got it back on my birthday which was Dec 21st so if your lucky you will get it in 2 weeks but I don't know if yours will take longer since its an elite.

Edit: But what sucks is you won't be able to get undertow for free since it will be free from the 23- 27th.

Maverick · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2008, 06:12:04 AM »

When you get your console back be sure to bug them about Undertow via customer service. That's just not fair.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2008, 09:37:01 AM »

Or if you have any friends with a 360 go over their house on one of those days with your hard drive (since you just put in your console without any faceplates or any accessories to ship out to MS) and download it from their 360 barring the friend's permission of course.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2008, 01:52:03 PM »

Go buy an Arcade 360 from Wal-Mart, and return it when you get your old one back, or within 30 days if you don't get yours back soon enough. Actually, buy one at Target, since I'm pretty sure their return policy is 90 days. GameStop's is 7, so don't even consider them.

Maverick · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2008, 03:53:36 PM »

I'm still trying to save up enough to buy a new HDTV and 360 Arcade to replace my original Core (well my original Core's replacement anyway). Stupid HDMI and your tempting ONE CORD FOR EVERYTHING making me want to waste several hundred dollars!

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #13 on:** January 21, 2008, 05:05:29 PM »

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Originally posted by: Maverick
I'm still trying to save up enough to buy a new HDTV and 360 Arcade to replace my original Core (well my original Core's replacement anyway). Stupid HDMI and your tempting ONE CORD FOR EVERYTHING making me want to waste several hundred dollars!

If your talking about a HDMI cable you can go to monoprice.com and purchase one for a good 5 - 10 US dollars.

Maverick · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2008, 08:44:48 PM »

Oh I know that, that's where I got my my HDMI cable for my PS3. I just meant I have an old model 360 without an HDMI port, and since I'm gonna spend all this money on a new HDTV, I figured I might as well spend a couple hundred extra and buy a new 360 with HDMI capability.

Thanks for lookin' out though.

It still surprises me that anyone would pay so much for a freaking cable, especially with it available for so much cheaper. But I suppose the majority of people don't surf the net as much as I do, as the only place I've heard of monoprice is at message boards.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:21:46 AM »

Mav I think its either

1. People are lazy and impatient so they want it now and don't care if they they are going to pay 30 - 100 dollars for one.

2. Since it's high definition people think its a fair price based on the perception where its HD which equals to its more expensive! Which is what companies try to go after to make a insanely large profit margin.

ryancoke · « **Reply #16 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:22:14 AM »

that sucks. But it's the reason that I don't buy any crap that microsoft makes. Xbox = shite, windows = shite

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #17 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:26:41 AM »

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Originally posted by: ryancoke
that sucks. But it's the reason that I don't buy any crap that microsoft makes. Xbox = shite, windows = shite

The irony is I initially jumped from a Nintendo and Sony owner to a Nintendo and MS owner then eventually Sony again (console wise) because I got burned with a PS2 that was acting up a lot but didn't fully break and then here I go with a 360 that lasted about for a 1 1/2 years which is unacceptable for a 400 dollar machine.

Maverick · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2008, 06:42:03 AM »

I've never really understood the Windows hate, I've always liked it just fine. More than a Mac, and I'm not nerdy enough to embrace Linux. I don't even have any problems with Vista. But I do agree MS made some super unreliable crap this generation with the 360. I love my 360, and the games I can play on it, but I know the failure rate has to be like... 80% on these freaking things.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:29:19 PM »

A lot of the windows hate has to do with how notoriously unstable and unsecure it is. BSOD (Blue screens of death) were notoriously common in Windows systems prior to XP, and Windows is also more susceptible to viruses and many other problems than other OSes are. Linux and Mac aren't invincible either, but they are a heck of a lot more stable and reliable. Linux has the idea of root passwords in order to make systems changes, whereas in windows that isn't the case. Any user can install something without needing to be an administrator.

Another reason for the Windows hatred is because it is a monopoly with 90+% marketshare, and some people don't like the idea of monopolies and want there to be competition and balance in the market so that one company doesn't have all the power. This is the exact same reason why so many people hate Wal-mart and picket it whenever it is going to come to their neighborhood.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:53:33 PM »

Windows is "more susceptible" to viruses than Linux or Mac for one reason - because it's the most popular. The people making these viruses build them on a machine running Windows, for Windows. I don't think it's really the same with Wal-Mart. I shop at Wal-Mart, because I have to (not because they have a monopoly, since they don't have one - but because there's about 30 of them in my county!), but I hate the company with a passion.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:29:10 PM »

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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Windows is "more susceptible" to viruses than Linux or Mac for one reason

Did you fail to read the entirety of my post? Being less popular is NOT the only reason why Linux is more secure. Windows does not have root.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2008, 06:52:19 PM »

Actually, Windows DOES have a root account. It is just called Administrator. However, your point stands. Linux is naturally set up for 99% of users like this:

A user gets an account on the system.

They are then given the folder "/home/username/"

Within "/home/username/", all their applications settings, desktop icons, and general documents are saved.

Now that they have been given that folder, they cannot edit anywhere at all outside of the that folder. Unless they explicitly provide the root password.

All applications and system files are stored everywhere but "/home/"

So really, *nix security is pretty simple, but works great. In contrast to Windows' monolith of bureaucratic and still broken security. Here is a prime example of what I am talking about:

To be far, many schools and corporations do set Windows up like I just described. It can be done. But you still have to deal with the security prompts and incompatibility becomes a problem with these new found security settings.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:37:37 PM »

All this anti-Windows talk is just to troll GP, right?

I hate Windows because of the fundamentally flawed registry structure.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:51:00 PM »

Thank you for your post, DAaaMan64. I hear people say "linux is only more secure than windows because no one uses it" all the time, and yes, I admit that is one of the reasons, but there are other reasons why linux is more secure. So again, thank you for pointing a few of those reasons out.

Another thing is that with Linux being completely open source, that means you can fix security problems yourself rather than wait for whenever MS gets around to it.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2008, 01:30:12 AM »

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
I hate Windows because of the fundamentally flawed registry structure.

QFT. Windows can act fundamentally just like *nix systems as long as you know enough about what you are doing, the true point of failure is the registry. It overly complicates the operating system and it's management and really ruins it for me as well. Windows vs. The World arguments are stupid, use what you want, everyone has their preference and different levels of tolerance.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2008, 04:11:53 PM »

I'm not saying that it's because "no one uses Linux" (and I read your post), I mean Windows is more popular as in it's the mainstream choice. I've got a feeling that "hackers" or whatever you want to label the people who write/spread viruses as, have more respect for people who use Linux, due to the fact that it's basically created by it's users, and it's free (most of the time). A lot of viruses for Windows are written because they see a flaw, and exploit it, so that Microsoft has to fix said flaw, because Windows costs a good bit of money (again, most of the time) and because it's so mainstream.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2008, 04:59:33 PM »

But the flaw cannot be exploited if even the application with the exploit has no right to change system files unless otherwise given permission with the root password. Most Linux distributions also doesn't allow executables to be executed unless you the user allow them to become executable.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:04:18 PM »

Depends on what you want to do. To really screw a user up it's usually enough to delete his personal files, to grab important info like CC details all you need access to is the user's data.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2008, 04:48:45 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Depends on what you want to do. To really screw a user up it's usually enough to delete his personal files, to grab important info like CC details all you need access to is the user's data.

Yes that is true for both Windows and Linux. Linux you'd have to give it permission to become an executable and then you'd have to execute it, it could not run on it's own.

Then that comes back around to the security of your applications, such as your web browser. But It still stands, a third party borking your system is pretty hard to do on Linux.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #30 on:** January 24, 2008, 12:59:14 PM »

It isn't just the Windows OS which is unstable, but other Windows software as well. I think Outlook, Office, and Internet Explorer all have a really terrible reputation when it comes to security and stability, don't they? I remember how that was one of the reasons why Firefox became so popular so fast because it had a lot better security features and stuff built into it. To be fair, I think much of IE's problems have probably been fixed with 7.0, but the fact IE is integrated and unremovable from the OS itself probably has a lot of security issues with it.

Dan_Flyhight · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:17:11 PM »

I feel for you. My xbox 360 Pro broke last week, it took a week to get the box, I sent it back the day I got the box which was this last tuesday and it just got into texas this morning and its sitting in san antonio texas right now...you'd think it could from houston to mcallas texas or wherever in less than 1 day...not to mention the 3-4 weeks I have to wait to get it back.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2008, 06:44:52 PM »

Well getting the 360 replaced is easy wait till you have to get your xbox live arcade games relicensed to your new refurbished 360, when i called MS about this I was:
- Hung up on 3 times
- Deliberately put on hold for about 15 - 30 minutes in hopes I would hang up
- Had to repeat the same "solution" 3 times with no results which took a good 30 minutes
- When I go to the supervisor they said the whole relicensing process takes 30 days and so far my arcade games are no relicensed.

Mikintosh · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2008, 09:44:36 PM »

I've been a lifelong fan of Windows (had every version since 3.1 except the NTs because I didn't need 'em), but Vista is trying my patience for the reasons you guys said, plus the fact that I still need to keep alive the laptop I had "retired" because this new one with Vista, while much better, can't run a lot of the old one's programs, even though the programs are barely two years old. Stupid. Though I'll never bow to the Apple pressure that my father and sister caved into...never!

Back on topic, I've been considering a 360 in the near future (provided I eventually get the money for it), but if the systems are still behaving this way, I'm going to hold off. I already went through the month-long process of getting my Wii fixed (which broke because of their system update...and they didn't even transfer my Miis or my saved data!), and Halo 3 isn't enough of a reason to go through that again at the expense of $400.

Pale · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2008, 09:46:07 PM »

Quote from: Mikintosh on February 15, 2008, 09:44:36 PM

I've been a lifelong fan of Windows (had every version since 3.1 except the NTs because I didn't need 'em), but Vista is trying my patience for the reasons you guys said, plus the fact that I still need to keep alive the laptop I had "retired" because this new one with Vista, while much better, can't run a lot of the old one's programs, even though the programs are barely two years old. Stupid. Though I'll never bow to the Apple pressure that my father and sister caved into...never!

Back on topic, I've been considering a 360 in the near future (provided I eventually get the money for it), but if the systems are still behaving this way, I'm going to hold off. I already went through the month-long process of getting my Wii fixed (which broke because of their system update...and they didn't even transfer my Miis or my saved data!), and Halo 3 isn't enough of a reason to go through that again at the expense of $400.

This post is comical to me, because, based on your username, I always thought you were a Mac freak.

Svevan · « **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2008, 09:56:22 PM »

Inconsistent name, Mikintosh. Minus a point.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:02:34 PM »

My new laptop has Vista and aside from it being odd I don't have any real problems, just oddities.

1. I cannot install Verison DSL software but I don't need it, just connect to the router via wireless and I am fine with online.

2. Printer at work, I couldn't install the software because it said I didn't have Internet Explorer 5.0 or later when in fact I have version 7.x. But I can just hook the printer up anyway and let it detect the printer and then I can print as if there was no problem at all.

Like I said, just odd stuff that has popped up for me but hasn't killed the experience.

The only other thing I would even think about installing would be the software for my camera, and I don't even need to do that because of the media card reader on my laptop. All I have to do is put the SD card in and I can pull everything I snap a picture of off that way a lot quicker than it would take to hook the camera up, wait for it to detect the camera and then upload the pictos onto my computer.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:35:56 PM »

Quote from: Mikintosh on February 15, 2008, 09:44:36 PM

I'll never bow to the Apple pressure that my father and sister caved into...never!

Resistance is futile. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 15, 2008, 11:10:32 PM »

Resistance is NOT futile, I used Mac's all through PhotoShop and FinalCut training and Windows for the rest of my life, and now I use Linux.

Chew on that Steve and Bill!

Maverick · « **Reply #39 on:** February 16, 2008, 12:00:17 AM »

You lack brand loyalty. Dispose of him.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #40 on:** February 28, 2008, 08:09:53 PM »

Well here we are, February 28th and I finally got an email from MS saying they fixed my 360 and will send it back to me soon. So that it has been about a month and 8 days or so since I started the process. From what I understand it will take close to a week to get it back, so thatmakes it a month and a half! Talk about ridiculous.

Maverick · « **Reply #41 on:** February 28, 2008, 08:11:58 PM »

That's pretty crazy. I think it only took about 3 weeks for me to get mine back. Are you getting your actual system returned or a separate refurbished console?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #42 on:** February 28, 2008, 08:43:59 PM »

Quote from: Maverick on February 28, 2008, 08:11:58 PM

That's pretty crazy. I think it only took about 3 weeks for me to get mine back. Are you getting your actual system returned or a separate refurbished console?

I have no idea, when I try to log in to see my system status I can't find it lol. All I have is their email.

Maverick · « **Reply #43 on:** February 28, 2008, 10:03:53 PM »

Well at least you'll most likely be getting a free month of live (or maybe even more considering how long it has taken).

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #44 on:** February 29, 2008, 09:27:58 AM »

As bad as the wait is, it still beats buying a new one, eh?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #45 on:** February 29, 2008, 01:13:38 PM »

Quote from: Chozo Ghost on February 29, 2008, 09:27:58 AM

As bad as the wait is, it still beats buying a new one, eh?

Lol, true. Well I got a tracking number for shipment but it STILL isn't showing up on FedEx ::grrrr::.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #46 on:** February 29, 2008, 01:19:15 PM »

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix on February 28, 2008, 08:09:53 PM

Well here we are, February 28th and I finally got an email from MS saying they fixed my 360 and will send it back to me soon. So that it has been about a month and 8 days or so since I started the process. From what I understand it will take close to a week to get it back, so thatmakes it a month and a half! Talk about ridiculous.

Well in that whole month and a half you've been missing your 360, I've played my 360 a grand total of zero times. Probably won't turn it on again until GTA IV comes out.

Maverick · « **Reply #47 on:** February 29, 2008, 01:59:45 PM »

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix on February 29, 2008, 01:13:38 PM

Well I got a tracking number for shipment but it STILL isn't showing up on FedEx ::grrrr::.

Hope you get the RIGHT tracking number. They gave me a completely incorrect one making me think mine had been shipped to some guy in the midwest. I was actually disappointed when I found out I just got the wrong tracking number, as I was hoping to receive a brand new unit. :-P

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #48 on:** February 29, 2008, 02:04:25 PM »

Should be interesting to see if I get a new one or not since mine is an Xbox 360 Elite.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #49 on:** March 01, 2008, 11:32:38 AM »

I suggest buying games on the PS3 as much as possible so you're not deprived when this new 360 breaks.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #50 on:** March 01, 2008, 11:55:47 AM »

I suggest buying games for the Wii instead.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #51 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:00:10 PM »

Got my Xbox 360 back yesterday, haven't had a chance to see if it works though.

Maverick · « **Reply #52 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:17:06 PM »

Is it the same exact one or a random refurbished one?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #53 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:28:34 PM »

Quote from: Maverick on March 07, 2008, 07:17:06 PM

Is it the same exact one or a random refurbished one?

Not sure, didn't get a chance to look at it.

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