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war in iraq
Munky:
I'm 100% antiwar. So personally, I'm sick of the news coverage of it on all stations here, and interupting my tv! So I've spent a lot of time playin' Xbox and Cube. But really, I do think Saddam needs to be taken out.
highenergyboy:
Let us not forget that the same "courageous" France some you are praising for opposing U.S. policy with dealing with Iraq are also the ones who knowingly helped Saddam in his efforts to gain nuclear capability by suppling Iraq with a nuclear reactor and helping to build a facility to house it. If it was not for the Israelis realizing the implications of such a facility, launching a surprise raid on it under everyone elses nose (including the U.S.) and destroying it before becoming operational that madman would have had nukes by the Gulf War. It is bad enough that that tyrant has mustard gas, VX nerve agents and syrin. Just imagine if one of those SCUDs that hit Israel in the Gulf War was carrying a nuclear warhead.
And if you ask me the U.N. has demonstrated these last few months that it clearly remains incapable of backing its own resolutions with force. Resolution 1441, passed months ago clearly stated that if Iraq did not disarm they would face "serious consequences". Right there is where the U.N. authorized force to be taken, and if they did not intend for it to be interpreted that way then what was their definition of serious consequences? A slap on the wrist and a promise not to do it again? I would not be surprised...
It was not U.S. diplomacy that failed here in averting a war. It was the U.N. failing miserably to show some backbone by threatening Saddam with force to get him to voluntarily disarm. The U.S. could have easily provided such force. Now unfortunely it has to be done the hard way with a lot of brute force. All I see in the U.N. now is another powerless League of Nations that should be disolved and replaced with a new global defense organization that will take action when absolutely necessary instead of procrastinating and being gullible fools like those in the current U.N. who eat up everything that pawn of Saddam's tells them.
I would have no problem joining the army if the call went out for more people. Call it a draft if you want, but I would see it as nothing more then an urgent plea by my country for help. This is directed to those who would dare say that I blindly support the war because I am not in the front lines right now bunkered down in a gas suit fearful of chemical attacks. Watch what you say because it may just come to that if regimes like those in Iraq and North Korea keep rearing their ugly heads.
thecubedcanuck:
great post, very well said.
People really need to use their heads here and stop protesting for the sake of protesting.
Gamer Donkey:
I believe that this could have been resolved peacefully. I do believe Saddam is a horrible person and should be removed, but I think we rushed into war. I don't think Bush expended his diplomatic powers before resorting to military action. I think he pushed a little too hard for military action, especially making an unfounded connection to terrorism, using the fears of the people in an inappropriate manner, IMO. I just find it odd to end inspections before they find anything.
I believe one of the great things about this democracy we call America is that we can freely express our opinions, even if they oppose our leaders or the common beliefs. I'm proud to live in the United States.
And a comment to Highenergyboy, may I remind you that we once supported Saddam Hussein. I believe in 1982 the quote was "the U.S. will do whatever is necessary and legal" to keep Iraq from losing a war with Iran.
I question how we entered this war under the belief that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but last night Bush said we will find Iraq's "weapons of mass murder". Big difference.
I support the troops and hope this ends soon for their sake, but I do not approve of why they're there.
P.S. This is a tremendously better discussion than the debate I have going with my friend.
cubefreak123:
gamer donkey here me out. Ok we have given suddam a looooonnnnggggggg time to disarm about 12 years and every time he said he was gonna he has not disarmed so finally we have had enough we are not after the ppl or anyone else we r after suddam and his little minions once we take them out in iraq like i said earlier our troops r out of there we dont want oil we dont want to kill we have to take him out for the safety of the us and the rest of the world. once we take him out we will help iraq rebuild itself into a free nation thats all we r doing. ps. rick thanks for keeping this open