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Nintendo Gaming / Re: No More Heroes for Wii!!!!

« on: April 24, 2008, 07:13:34 PM »

I think they flashed clips of Helter Skelter (the dude you're referring to) from the trailer in the intro whenTravis is narrating. It would've have been cool to fight him, but I guess they didn't lose any narrative steam by glossing over it. The whole point was that you moved to 10th by killing Helter Skelter. Also, being thrust right into the ranking helped to preserve the plot twists at the end.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 24, 2008, 07:06:14 PM »

Around here it's like Wii doesn't even exist, everyone has a 360 and wants a PS3 and talks trash on Wii all day long, so going by my own experiences Wii is a worse dud than GC, and I don't buy that one bit. Not saying your wrong just saying things are different in every town I am sure.

Well, of course things are different in every town, but the degree of which is what I'm pointing out. Just looking at store shelves or even a comprehensive list of Wii games should tip anyone off as to what kinds of games there are more of on the Wii. There's a reason the Wii has so many mini-game collections. People are buying them and who do you think the vast majority of those people are? All of those people can be Kairon........

And dude, you used to spend over $200 a week on games? Jeez, I just got a full-time job in addition to working part time at the video store and I still don't think I make enough money to spend anywhere near that much on gaming on a weekly basis.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*

« on: April 24, 2008, 06:52:15 PM »

Personally, I don't think Mario Galaxy would have been any better if it started a new original cast...

Galaxy also wasn't a spin-off. I'm not opposed to Nintendo releasing main series games. Spin offs just seem pointless to me because that spin-off could have been an original IP.

Point taken, but I don't really understand why he would specifically mention the Japanese...I don't believe slightly improved Japanese sales of western FPSers would make that much of an effect on 3rd party support of the Wii...The only thing I personally think would cause Miyamoto to make a statement like this is if Nintendo itself was preparing a big internal FPS themselves...

Well, I would imagine that Miyamoto is hoping for more than "slightly improved Japanese sales of western FPSers." The success of more "hardcore" games of any genre would encourage Japanese 3rd parties to make more "hardcore" Wii games. FPS games just happen to be the perfect fit for the Wii.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 24, 2008, 06:38:13 PM »

This so-called "displeasure" results from just plain LAZINESS...

Or DISPLEASURE.....

Not every game can work out perfectly on the Wii remote and if you think so, you're living in a dream world. For example, I thought that Metroid Prime 3 did the best that it could with the Wii remote though it certainly could've been better with more buttons, namely mapping missles to the D-pad and holding the minus button to switch visors.

I don't really buy a single person's accounts of what games sell to what kind of person as evidence of anything in the first place, no insult intended

Take it or leave it. I just can't imagine it being much different elsewhere.... otherwise we wouldn't have the influx of mini-game collections we currently have. Someone has to be buying them or there wouldn't be so many on store shelves.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*

« on: April 24, 2008, 06:22:08 PM »

Or how about a spinoff where you play as Link?

A spinoff doesn't need to imply a drastic change of cast, but a change in perspective from what is expected from the main series...Just like the Four Swords games and Link's Crossbow Training are considered spinoffs because the game is played differently...

I'm aware of the nature of spin-offs so I don't need an explanation from you. I was only offering suggestions........

Still, why not just make a new IP?

And I'd say the only reason Miyamoto is suddenly interested in First Person Shooters is because 3rd parties aren't taking the Wii seriously as a console for "hardcore" gaming and the FPS, a "hardcore" gamer's genre, are more or less the best and easiest way to showcase the Wii remotes abilities. Makes sense to me anyway.....

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 24, 2008, 06:09:32 PM »

But forcing 3rd parties to make compromises to their control scheme due to a lack of buttons is not appealing and many of them have made their displeasure known.

And who said anything about a mass number of buttons? Take the A button and make it 2-4 buttons. How is that any more complicated than a DS which has 4 face buttons?

Also, I don't buy the whole "build them up to be more hardcore gamers" thing. Sounds like BS to me. New players aren't "graduating" to more "hardcore" games like Super Mario Galaxy. Gamers are buy games like Super Mario Galaxy. The people who were (re)introduced to gaming through Wii Sports buy crap like Carnival Games to keep playing games that don't require much or any button imput. You want proof? I work at a videostore with a game retailer inside of it. I suggest Super Mario Galaxy to every customer who asks me what good games are on the Wii and they ALWAYS pick crap like Carnival Games. It is the most rented game at my Hollywood Video. They're not building up towards anything....

If we had more games to play we wouldn't be in this predicament now would we

Nice.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*

« on: April 24, 2008, 05:52:03 PM »

...and that Retro has an amazing FPS Wii control scheme....

As long as it doesn't involve switching visors....

Also, don't see the Zelda spin-off thing happening. What would a spin-off entail? Play as Zelda? I'd just wonder why that wasn't just part of a main series game. Play as Ganondorf? He's not that interesting as far villains go. He's a pretty flat character with a one track mind (i.e. wants power). He's a plot point, plain and simple. He exists in the Zelda series so players have a goal to complete. Could they make him more interesting for a spin-off? Yeah, I guess, but why? Or more importantly, why not make him more interesting in the main series (which they kind of did in Wind Waker)? That way, when I see him, I care and more than just simple, petty nostalgia.

I guess I just find Zelda much harder to spin-off from than say Mario or Pokemon. They could make a full fledged Zelda RPG, but then, why not just make a new IP? Any spin-off could potentially be a brand new property, one which doesn't have to adhere to the rules of an older franchise. If Nintendo is worried about new IPs selling, include a demo and a trailer with their big titles.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 24, 2008, 05:30:33 PM »

Adding to the controller keeps backwards compatibility but think about it, how ergonomic would the Wiimote be with four face buttons (where the 1 and 2 buttons are ATM), two shoulder buttons and two analog sticks? You cannot keep adding, not for an interface! That just wrecks ergonomy. It'd also make the Wiimote fail its goal which was extending the market to people who didn't play games before the Wii.

I disagree. The Wii's appeal lies in seeing other people play and wanting to try it out. People don't see the buttons immediately. They see someone swinging a remote around. Games like Wii Sports sparingly use buttons, if at all. Instructing someone how to play is extremely simple, relying primarily on motion controls rather than button imput so I don't think extra buttons contracts Nintendo's expanded market goal.

Still, what it comes down to is Nintendo shouldn't be afraid of adding buttons to the controller, but 3rd parties shouldn't feel the need to use every button just because the buttons are there. Assassin's Creed and, to a slightly lesser degree, the Metal Gear series are notorious being button whores.

I'll leave it at that since this debate is pretty old and off topic (then again, we've been off topic for some time now).

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*

« on: April 24, 2008, 04:56:56 PM »

Retro working on Kid Icarus doesn't make much sense either. I thought they wanted to work on something different. If they get Kid Icarus, Nintendo has basically just relegated them to the status of revival house. Might as well give them Star Tropics and Radar Scope while they're at it......

Nintendo shouldn't "waste" Retro on older franchises. I want a sequel to Kid Icarus, but I also want an original title from Retro. Conundrum! Nintendo could always nurture a new team like they did with Retro and give them Kid Icarus. At least we can rest easier knowing that Nintendo won't let thier old franchises crash and burn under a new developer since there's precedence for them not doing that.

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General Chat / Re: Zero Punctuation

« on: April 24, 2008, 01:29:55 AM »

The jokes are hit or miss... usually miss. As reviews, they fail immensely. In the latest one, he admits he doesn't like games like Smash Bros. then complains that he didn't enjoy the game. Why even review the game then? To be funny? Yeah, I'm all for comedy, but that's a very fundamental flaw to his whole schtick.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The World Ends With You

« on: April 24, 2008, 01:17:30 AM »

If I were to buy a new DS game, this would be it. I just can't justify buying a $40 DS game. ALL of Square-Enix's DS games are $40. It's like they think we're made of money.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Okami (Capcom to send out replacement box art!)

« on: April 24, 2008, 01:11:28 AM »

Yeah. I have a PO Box and just to make sure, I used the gf's name/email.

I could get the green cover and use my parent's address, but I wasn't a fan. Just sign up for a free gmail account or something and use the address of a trusted friend or relative.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*

« on: April 24, 2008, 01:07:01 AM »

Not to belittle their contribution to Retro, but they'll be replaced. People, even key staff members, leave companies ALL THE TIME. It happens. Everyone moves on.

Also, I don't know why anyone was worried about Retro possibly closing. I love how small news stories blow up when there's nothing else to report.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Okami (Capcom to send out replacement box art!)

« on: April 24, 2008, 12:52:45 AM »

I ordered the first and third choices a few hours ago. They're free. What's not to like about it.... besides the obvious "never should have happened in the first place" thing.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 22, 2008, 10:36:59 PM »

It comes back to how everyone thinks the grass is greener on the other side.  All of you that think the 360 and PS3 is the answer, don't know just how good you've had it with Nintendo and continue to have it with them.

Or, alternatively, that Nintendo can do no wrong.... Listen to yourself? Is it possible that neither Nintendo nor 3rd parties are releasing terribly original sequels? What am I thinking? Of course, not. I'm talking to a Nintendo fan.....

I'm all for opinions, but when one essentially boils down to "Nintendo is perfect" every single time, I have a hard time taking it seriously. I'm not saying you specifically. I'm refering to most fans who can only view Nintendo through rose colored glasses.

I have to agree with Mashiro, here. I think it's ridiculous that someone gets forum mobbed by fans when he says that he had fun on another system.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 20, 2008, 02:58:14 PM »

Hell, I know everyone talked how awesome the Wiimote would be for FPSes but there's only one good FPS out for the system (Metroid Prime 3)...

First Person Adventure, you f-ing n00b.

The Wii simply has NO bargain bin games.

Well, to be fair, the Wii has been out all of, what, 18 months? Can we really expect many "Player's Choice" titles yet? Also, Wii has a lot of games that were released for under $50. RE4 was $30, House of the Dead 2 and 3 was $30 (but Sega discounted some of their games so I got it for $20), Okami was $40 and so on.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

« on: April 19, 2008, 07:42:36 PM »

Some people are hard to please. You're getting upset over an interview.... but the game is still coming to the Wii. What are you complaining about? The producers can say whatever they want, but that doesn't change the fact that THE GAME IS STILL COMING TO THE WII!

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 19, 2008, 05:29:00 PM »

If it makes you feel better, pap64, I knew you were joking. That's why you put the ":p" there.

Also, I read that Tales of Symphonia was ported to PS2 because Japanese fans complained it was being released on Gamecube, not PS2. And Namco is releasing a sequel to Tales of Symphonia on the Wii. They wouldn't bother with a sequel on a Nintendo platform if they didn't recognize the sales of the original.

I guess someone might say Nintendo is still making a mistake by not including HD support, but I think actually the opposite is true and that Sony and MS are making the mistake by forcing HD down developer's throats. HD games cost a lot more to make, so they're more expensive and the profit margin is less. So this time around Nintendo is actually doing most things right (aside from the hard drive, and maybe friend codes).

Definitely friend codes, maybe on the hard drive. I don't think not supporting HD was a mistake. The Wii could stand to have more powerful hardware, but it's getting by just fine without it. Sales wise, anyway. Maybe 3rd parties would be more receptive to releasing more Wii games if they could downport their titles. Lazy, but at least there would be more games.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Okami

« on: April 19, 2008, 05:10:12 PM »

I still haven't opened Okami. I can't decide which game to play first, Baroque or Okami.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 19, 2008, 04:58:47 PM »

Capcom went back on its word about the exclusive five, if that isn't screwing over, I don't know what is.

I didn't say Nintendo didn't get screwed over at all. I already mentioned Capcom's douchbaggery. Both sides were to blame is all I'm saying.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Okami

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:52:42 PM »

Wow.... how does that even happen? At least it wasn't a PS2 logo....

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:47:57 PM »

Don't worry, I never forgot.  I also never forgot how every other 3rd party screwed over Nintendo last gen and continues to do so as well.

I would argue that 3rd parties, for the most part, did not screw over Nintendo last generation. Gamecube was dead last and if there was a dumbf*ck decision to be made, Nintendo made it.

I won't say 3rd parties are screwing Nintendo over with the Wii yet though it's certainly seeming more and more like it with every passing week.

Luigi's right

Recognition fail. Adrock is right. Luigi Dude is just biting all of my super awesome points.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Okami

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:15:58 AM »

What the F is with that unsightly circle on the Okami box? Fail.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Why are people still whining that there aren't enough games?

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:11:48 AM »

But RE4 wasn't exclusive at all. In fact, not only did Capcom go out of their way to make sure everyone knew that RE4 wasn't exclusive, they also loaded the PS2 version with all kinds of extras.

I know that's besides the point. I just don't think any Nintendo fan should ever forget how entirely douchey that was on Capcom's part.

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General Gaming / Re: Batman wins...FATALITY?!? Mortal Kombat 8 to feature Batman???

« on: April 18, 2008, 11:03:46 PM »

Batman + MK makes no sense. I hope that's just a teaser for Midway getting the rights to mkae Batman games.

Why can't they just make another Marvel vs. Capcom game?

I think it's because Activision licenses Marvel's properties now. Capcom and Activision would have to strike a deal or Marvel would have to allow the agreement with Activision to expire for another Vs. game to happen. I personally don't see either happening. Capcom barely let the Vs. SNK and Street Fighter 4 happen.