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General Chat / Re: What's RABicle Up To? - The Nobody Gives A **** Thread
« on: March 25, 2008, 12:56:55 PM »
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Super Mario Galaxy 2 Mentioned By Miyamoto in Famitsu
« on: March 25, 2008, 12:54:19 PM »
Well I haven't played Galaxy and unlike most Nintendo fans, I hated Sunshine and had minor issues with Mario 64.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« on: March 25, 2008, 12:51:45 PM »I just cant understand a single thing rat has said. It's all way over my head.
Yeah I sorta got off track as I typed. Sorry. Looking back I don't think I made the point I set out to make.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: We need a thread for awesome short films
« on: March 24, 2008, 11:29:56 PM »
I don't have sound on my computer right at the moment.
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General Gaming / Re: Official NWR PAX 2008 Thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 11:22:11 PM »
So it's only $50 at the door, I am sure I can manage that plus travel expenses. I am going to see if I can bring my brother-in-law who is a HUGE gamer also. He isn't into Console games thought, mostly WoW, Counterstrike, Star Craft, and similar type games. I have a few other gaming friends I might try and tag along. This $^#& looks like it could be fun.
Yeah sorry, I was doing some other stuff on my PC when I read that first post and didn't actually goto the website.
wait, do you have to pay n advance, or what? I don't have any money right now.
Did you even go to the website? Here:
http://www.pennyarcadeexpo.com/registration.php <---Read me.
Yeah sorry, I was doing some other stuff on my PC when I read that first post and didn't actually goto the website.
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TalkBack / Re: Rock Band Coming to Wii June 22
« on: March 24, 2008, 11:06:40 PM »
And if you don't have a PS2, then getting that version isn't really an option either.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: We need a thread for awesome short films
« on: March 24, 2008, 11:04:38 PM »
I got one, no really Check it out
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Everybody vote on my Question in the Everybody Votes Channel
« on: March 24, 2008, 07:34:29 PM »
I voted for cake even though I don't like either one that much.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Ew Spiders, that;s it I'm leaving...
« on: March 24, 2008, 07:10:18 PM »
GC did about 30,000 total visitors (that is of course counting the spiders) in the 6 months we had it. Rats Collectibles is less than 10,000 visitors in more than 5 years.
but you're right and all this I already know I just don't know how to edit the robots.txt file cuz I'm not a "real" web developer.
but you're right and all this I already know I just don't know how to edit the robots.txt file cuz I'm not a "real" web developer.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:47:12 PM »
No, your wrong the Magic 8 ball told me.
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General Chat / Re: Me at the Obama Rally (not a political discussion)
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:42:53 PM »
We have that too. I maybe meant Desert? Damn it.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Ew Spiders, that;s it I'm leaving...
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:41:50 PM »
That was what the forums were for, I was posting new articles every day. Then I added a news area but that failed to catch on so I replaced that with my blog that also failed to catch on.
Gamerz Jackpot got updated every single day we had the site going, rats collectibles, hey come on I can't update if I don't get something new to add, sell something to replace. I needed the forums to give the spiders something *to* crawl.
Gamerz Jackpot got updated every single day we had the site going, rats collectibles, hey come on I can't update if I don't get something new to add, sell something to replace. I needed the forums to give the spiders something *to* crawl.
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TalkBack / Re: Rock Band Coming to Wii June 22
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:39:34 PM »
As long as the drums don't break within the first week or two it might be cool.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Everybody vote on my Question in the Everybody Votes Channel
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:28:06 PM »
Out of curiosity, what were the results of the Ghost poll?
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:26:37 PM »
I don't think that was how it happened at all. Acclaim sucked at making ports so they lost their rights to certain key games that made them rich, therefore costing them their bread and butter. It had nothing to do with putting games on the Genesis.
Namco stated they went with Playstation over N64 because of Nintendo's "bully" tactics. Capcom gave MORE support to Saturn than Genesis, and that system BOMBED out the door.
No sir, I do not think it was as you stated at all. In fact Midway and Acclaim did NOT give SEGA *MORE* support, SNES had EVERY game that Genesis got. They usually, with MK being the only exception, put the better versions on SNES.
I distinctly remember Square Also NOT making a single game for the Genesis. In fact they didn't switch to PS because of sales, it was due to size constraints involving cartridges.
Nintendo easily had the better support going in and it had NOTHING to do with Genesis sales, it had EVERYTHING to do with
1.) Success of NES convinced most people SNES would also be a success, and
2.) Exclusive Contracts devs had with Nintendo.
Capcom, Namco *AND* Konomi all said they would have supported Genesis more based on it's success, had Nintendo allowed them to earlier on.
We know that Sony paid Namco for their loyalty in the PS1 era, and again based on the massive success of PS3, Namco stuck with the money maker.
Capcom was the exact opposite of ALL your examples. As soon as their contracts with Nintendo was up, Saturn and PS got their full support, N64 got what 2, 3 games tops from them? N64 outsold Saturn in every region from day one. Then let's see Capcom went on to offer again more support for the doomed-from-the-start Dreamcast, this time Namco jumped on the bandwagon and EA, who had a habit of putting games on *ALL* systems decided to skip the DC because they "lost faith" in Sega due to their excessive hardware offerings.
Now according to the logic devs always go where the market leader is, why oh why did DC and Saturn get as much support as they did? Especially from Capcom (also one of GC biggest supporters not to mention the Wii too)
So it does go back to, 3rd parties don't always follow the market leader and their is a logical reason for that line of thinking.
Take Capcom, they wanted to make Mega Man 8 on the PS1, Sony said NO Way because it was 2-d, Capcom said fine and went to Sega, then Sony said ok here put it on PS1.
Now perhaps Capcom, and other devs who supported Sega, did so because of lack of competition. Think of it like this, EA, Midway, Namco, Konomi, etc, all jumped ship and left Saturn in the dust after sales dropped, but Capcom kept giving it support, as did Activision but that's a different story. Maybe their logic was if nobody else is making games for Saturn, they would have less competition for those who had bought a Saturn and weren't ready to abandon ship. This logic could also be why Activision and Capcom continued to support GC even after everyone else jumped ship to Xbox and Ps2.
But we could all be wrong and there *IS* some anti-Nintendo conspiracy going on and the world will end tomorrow.
Namco stated they went with Playstation over N64 because of Nintendo's "bully" tactics. Capcom gave MORE support to Saturn than Genesis, and that system BOMBED out the door.
No sir, I do not think it was as you stated at all. In fact Midway and Acclaim did NOT give SEGA *MORE* support, SNES had EVERY game that Genesis got. They usually, with MK being the only exception, put the better versions on SNES.
I distinctly remember Square Also NOT making a single game for the Genesis. In fact they didn't switch to PS because of sales, it was due to size constraints involving cartridges.
Nintendo easily had the better support going in and it had NOTHING to do with Genesis sales, it had EVERYTHING to do with
1.) Success of NES convinced most people SNES would also be a success, and
2.) Exclusive Contracts devs had with Nintendo.
Capcom, Namco *AND* Konomi all said they would have supported Genesis more based on it's success, had Nintendo allowed them to earlier on.
We know that Sony paid Namco for their loyalty in the PS1 era, and again based on the massive success of PS3, Namco stuck with the money maker.
Capcom was the exact opposite of ALL your examples. As soon as their contracts with Nintendo was up, Saturn and PS got their full support, N64 got what 2, 3 games tops from them? N64 outsold Saturn in every region from day one. Then let's see Capcom went on to offer again more support for the doomed-from-the-start Dreamcast, this time Namco jumped on the bandwagon and EA, who had a habit of putting games on *ALL* systems decided to skip the DC because they "lost faith" in Sega due to their excessive hardware offerings.
Now according to the logic devs always go where the market leader is, why oh why did DC and Saturn get as much support as they did? Especially from Capcom (also one of GC biggest supporters not to mention the Wii too)
So it does go back to, 3rd parties don't always follow the market leader and their is a logical reason for that line of thinking.
Take Capcom, they wanted to make Mega Man 8 on the PS1, Sony said NO Way because it was 2-d, Capcom said fine and went to Sega, then Sony said ok here put it on PS1.
Now perhaps Capcom, and other devs who supported Sega, did so because of lack of competition. Think of it like this, EA, Midway, Namco, Konomi, etc, all jumped ship and left Saturn in the dust after sales dropped, but Capcom kept giving it support, as did Activision but that's a different story. Maybe their logic was if nobody else is making games for Saturn, they would have less competition for those who had bought a Saturn and weren't ready to abandon ship. This logic could also be why Activision and Capcom continued to support GC even after everyone else jumped ship to Xbox and Ps2.
But we could all be wrong and there *IS* some anti-Nintendo conspiracy going on and the world will end tomorrow.
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General Gaming / Re: What's MS' next move with the XBox 360?
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:11:26 PM »It all makes sense now, why the PS1, PS2, and now the 360 get the most third-party support: third party developers give the most support to the console that's most poorly built.
Makes sense, Nintendo first dominated with the faulty NES.
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General Chat / Re: So my Girl wants to watch Star Wars for the first time!
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:09:29 PM »..Isn't that the movie with David Bowie... Where staring at the girl was the best reason to watch... Well there was a few parts that were good
Jennifer Connelly gave a pretty good performance in Labyrinth
...
Thats the one. And yes that is the best reason to watch the movie, David Bowie is the one who scares me.
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General Chat / Re: Me at the Obama Rally (not a political discussion)
« on: March 24, 2008, 03:13:41 PM »
Idaho is a great state, they have HUGE lakes, lots of places to go fishing, hunting, mountains, and dessert. The state to avoid is Wyoming, and anything that calls itself the Midwest. I originally grew up in Kansas/Nebraska, god I hated those two states.
And see, Jackpot is like ON the Idaho border and is closer to Twin Falls than Elko (the next biggest town in NV) so everyone lives in Twin and works in Jackpot, cuz you know the Casinos make more money than all of Twin Falls County. But some people actually chose to live in Jackpot and half of them claim NV, half claim Magic Valley. I prefer ID over NV cuz I like the outdoors and you don't get nothing but sage brush in NV.
I only moved up here cuz I am, no longer eligible for employment, at any of the casinos. So I needed to move here to find a job. Hasn't happened yet but I'm hopeful.
And see, Jackpot is like ON the Idaho border and is closer to Twin Falls than Elko (the next biggest town in NV) so everyone lives in Twin and works in Jackpot, cuz you know the Casinos make more money than all of Twin Falls County. But some people actually chose to live in Jackpot and half of them claim NV, half claim Magic Valley. I prefer ID over NV cuz I like the outdoors and you don't get nothing but sage brush in NV.
I only moved up here cuz I am, no longer eligible for employment, at any of the casinos. So I needed to move here to find a job. Hasn't happened yet but I'm hopeful.
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General Chat / Re: Me at the Obama Rally (not a political discussion)
« on: March 24, 2008, 03:06:25 PM »
I hate where I live, but I love northern Idaho. I want to live close to Pend Oreille (pronounced Ponderay) or Sandpoint, that's where I used to live and have wanted to go back ever since we left.
Edit: On topic, it doesn't matter, Idaho always votes Republican so the Democrats usually don't campaign much here. Oh Nader does, he gets lots of support, but the Dem's usually stop in, wave as they drive by, and leave. We've been getting a lot of Californians migrating to our state so things are starting to change though. (not that I am for or against change)
Edit: On topic, it doesn't matter, Idaho always votes Republican so the Democrats usually don't campaign much here. Oh Nader does, he gets lots of support, but the Dem's usually stop in, wave as they drive by, and leave. We've been getting a lot of Californians migrating to our state so things are starting to change though. (not that I am for or against change)
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General Chat / Re: Good Books?
« on: March 24, 2008, 03:03:35 PM »
I thought it was Kairon cuz it looked fine yesterday when I posted in it.
BTW Kairon, how the hell do you even pronounce that?
BTW Kairon, how the hell do you even pronounce that?
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General Chat / Re: I didn't feel like reviving the photo thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 03:02:29 PM »
my 1 black friend is as follows, his daddy was all black but he ran out on him, his mother was half Hispanic half white, so he isn't full African American and looks more Hispanic than black and all my other black friends prefer to be called Black, not African America, most people I know say they ain't African. But I know it's different with each clique. We're all comfortable with calling us gringos, whitey and the "Mexicans" names I won't repeat here and yes the only 2 black people I hang with (they one mentioned above, and his brother) both excessively use and prefer the "n" word so as far as that goes, amongst my own friends we all are comfortable with each other enough to not give a damn. But outside our circle I sometimes forget to refrain myself.
So if I offended you I am sorry, it wasn't intentional.
So if I offended you I am sorry, it wasn't intentional.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Sonic Unleashed!
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:56:31 PM »
I was dead &$&$ing serious. All the big companies, not just those three but ALL of the big companies have been picking and choosing who to back ever since time began.
Here's a thought, Ps1 was already market leader when Ps2 came out, so it made sense to jump on board right away. So naturally by the time ps3 was on the horizon everyone already had their resources tied to Ps3 projects and since Xbox blew past Nintendo so fast and since 360 came out first it made sense, from a business perspective, to jump on board that. When sales took off companies had to shift resources form ps3 to 360 but didn't want to lose time and money *already* invested so had no choice but to finish projects already started on Ps3. Since some of the bigger games take two or three years to complete, logic would dictate that said projects already begun would have to be finished to lessen loses invested in those projects.
So along comes Nintendoi, after *2* generations of being behind and *2* generations of pushing people around and being the big bad ass bully. NOW the Wii comes along and big companies naturally take a wait and see approach. This forces them to focus on the MS and Sony machines because they already invested heavily in those. Now a year after launch Wii is beyond a phenomenon, and they are starting to shift focus to the market leader. Well projects already in production for PS3 and 360 can't just be canned because those system still have their own market, 360 software still outsells Wii software for the most part. So big companies have to *start* making games exclusive for the Wii to make up for lost time, well they also need to finish projects started for the other consoles *and* make up for losses from previous titles that maybe didn't perform as expected.
Now everyone says Sonic on 360 bombed, wheres the sales numbers to prove this? Seriously if the numbers are so low as to show they couldn't have possibly made any money on it, then the claims Nintendo is being treated unfairly would hold some merit, except the other points already made by others in this thread, along with those in this here post. Then you have to also take into account, even though Wii makes money not all of the software on Wii sells up to snuff.
Then there is the fact that NOT ALL of the Sega fans nor all of the Sonic fans, have a Wii then Sega also knwos they can't further alienate whats' left of their loyal fanbase because that's what nearly killed them in the 90's so it makes sense both from a financial perspective and from a loyalty perspective to keep putting Sonic and as many of their main titles as they can, on everything they can.
Nobody cares that NiGHTs was Wii exclusive either? The Sega fans ate that up and will continue to eat that up regardless of what others think or say. Sega quality be damned, the fact is they still have a large fan base that they need to cater to.
Here's a thought, Ps1 was already market leader when Ps2 came out, so it made sense to jump on board right away. So naturally by the time ps3 was on the horizon everyone already had their resources tied to Ps3 projects and since Xbox blew past Nintendo so fast and since 360 came out first it made sense, from a business perspective, to jump on board that. When sales took off companies had to shift resources form ps3 to 360 but didn't want to lose time and money *already* invested so had no choice but to finish projects already started on Ps3. Since some of the bigger games take two or three years to complete, logic would dictate that said projects already begun would have to be finished to lessen loses invested in those projects.
So along comes Nintendoi, after *2* generations of being behind and *2* generations of pushing people around and being the big bad ass bully. NOW the Wii comes along and big companies naturally take a wait and see approach. This forces them to focus on the MS and Sony machines because they already invested heavily in those. Now a year after launch Wii is beyond a phenomenon, and they are starting to shift focus to the market leader. Well projects already in production for PS3 and 360 can't just be canned because those system still have their own market, 360 software still outsells Wii software for the most part. So big companies have to *start* making games exclusive for the Wii to make up for lost time, well they also need to finish projects started for the other consoles *and* make up for losses from previous titles that maybe didn't perform as expected.
Now everyone says Sonic on 360 bombed, wheres the sales numbers to prove this? Seriously if the numbers are so low as to show they couldn't have possibly made any money on it, then the claims Nintendo is being treated unfairly would hold some merit, except the other points already made by others in this thread, along with those in this here post. Then you have to also take into account, even though Wii makes money not all of the software on Wii sells up to snuff.
Then there is the fact that NOT ALL of the Sega fans nor all of the Sonic fans, have a Wii then Sega also knwos they can't further alienate whats' left of their loyal fanbase because that's what nearly killed them in the 90's so it makes sense both from a financial perspective and from a loyalty perspective to keep putting Sonic and as many of their main titles as they can, on everything they can.
Nobody cares that NiGHTs was Wii exclusive either? The Sega fans ate that up and will continue to eat that up regardless of what others think or say. Sega quality be damned, the fact is they still have a large fan base that they need to cater to.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Everybody vote on my Question in the Everybody Votes Channel
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:44:34 PM »
I submitted only 1 question so far, it was the same day this thing launched, I forgot what it was. Then I deleted this channel to make room for more VC games and then found a better way to organize my channels so re-downloaded it again just yesterday. I submitted a new question but already forgot what it was. It's been a long week....
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General Chat / Re: Me at the Obama Rally (not a political discussion)
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:41:34 PM »
I'll be moving to Redmond just as soon as Nintendo finds my Resume I sent them twenty times... Until then I'm stuck in potato land.
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