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NWR Forums Discord / Re: If Alcohol Labels Were More Honest...
« on: May 05, 2009, 05:46:01 PM »
Rusty nails (Drambuie and DeWars) are to me what spinach is to Popeye. I've never had a drink give me so much energy with such little crash afterwards.
And though they mess my stomach lining up, tiki drinks are still some of my favorites. These things kick my ass. They're the only type of drink that reliably does that every time.
They don't call them "scorpion bowls" or "suffering bastards" for nothing...
And though they mess my stomach lining up, tiki drinks are still some of my favorites. These things kick my ass. They're the only type of drink that reliably does that every time.
They don't call them "scorpion bowls" or "suffering bastards" for nothing...
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: May 02, 2009, 02:29:31 AM »
I could see a situation where collectors can purchase content via DD and pay for the disc+box in addition to be mailed to them for an extra fee, and all still cheaper than what a normal retail copy would cost, heh.
In fact, I like that idea a lot...
In fact, I like that idea a lot...
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: May 01, 2009, 06:16:33 PM »Unfortunately digital distribution is inevitable, and it's yet another sad reflection on the age of technology. I can only hope it doesn't happen within my lifetime, or at least the portion of my life when I actually care.
I also doubt the sale of used games hurts the industry as much as some people say, given that the money people get from selling their games often goes towards buying new games. But I guess we'll never know until physical copies are out of the equation.
I don't think it'll be as bad as it seems. The thing to remember here is that the industry is and always will be market driven, meaning that even as download services progress, the concerns that have been voiced here will be reiterated many times over by consumers and no doubt will be addressed.
Steam already does an excellent job of ensuring that players "own" their games and can even give/resell them to another person if they like. Also, if Steam were to ever "go away", I assume they'd have some means of releasing all games from the DRM that currently affects them.
As for used games, it's hard to say, but the thing you have to remember is that Gamestop tends to charge only $5-10 less for a used game in many cases, especially with popular games. Most gamers would've probably paid that extra if the used copy wasn't available to them but opt for the used copy to save a few bucks. That's definitely a lost sale.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: May 01, 2009, 05:09:27 PM »1. Personal preference. I like to have my television surrounded by systems, it makes it much more gamey.
2. Personal problem. I have seven systems connected to my television without using a switchbox.
3. People are lazy. Personally I hate convenience, it just makes everyone lazy and impatient. If humans were truly intelligent beings, they'd invent machines which do things less effectively.
You are most certainly the exception and far from the rule, meaning I would be hesitant to use your situation as a basis for arguing in favor of everything having to be on retail.
Furthermore, I'm most certain that you're going to see more and more companies move to the downloadable model.
Why is Sony experimenting with Patapon 2 as a download ticket? Because this means the game cannot be sold back to Gamestop and resold as a used game 15 more times.
Look at it this way: Nintendo hates piracy and will go through great lengths to shut it down, even so far as to find the base of operations of a piracy outfit.
They hate piracy because it cuts into sales. However, piracy is just a whisper on the SCREAM that is Gamestop. How many billions of dollars in sales has Gamestop cost game publishers?
Considering that the entire business model of Gamestop revolves around selling used games instead of new games, I think it's safe to say that every game publisher in the world would be happy as all hell to see Gamestop out of the picture.
And it's only getting worse, since TRU and other retailers have recently announced that they too will be reselling used games.
The push to digitial distribution is going to come harder and harder as more retailers cut into the profits of publishers, just as many musicians were happy to put their MP3s up on iTunes instead of letting the record companies take 98% of the profit on every CD sale.
And FYI, iTunes is the 2nd largest retailer of music in the US, just behind Wal-Mart (who they're still gaining on).
With publishers having EVERY incentive to move to DD, I think it'd be foolish to expect the future to go anywhere but there. It'll take some time, but I see it as inevitable.
The music industry already did it and plenty of game dev houses make their living publisher-free via DD and have never seen a reason to go to retail. Why would they start now?
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TalkBack / Re: E3 2009 Gathers Over 150 Participants
« on: April 30, 2009, 04:10:41 PM »I think the reception of E3 2008 was so bad that it forced the officials to go into alert mode and decided to bring back everything.
I think the fact that the presentations by all three companies was so lackluster was what really did this.
Scantily-clad women standing outside booths aren't going to suddenly mean that we'll have more good games announced.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: April 30, 2009, 04:05:56 PM »
Yeah, both iTunes and the Wii Shop Channel have a list of everything you've purchased and could verify whether or not you own something, same with Steam.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Colorz
« on: April 30, 2009, 04:03:55 PM »
Looks neat, but adding a "Z" to the end of the title isn't going to do them any favors.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: April 30, 2009, 04:00:50 PM »Which would be pretty hard to prove in court. I mean say you steal my bike, and it is found in your garage. I can say, "Look, there is my bike. It is right there." Ephemeral content is hard to prove the theft of. Say you steal me Bilingual Iconography-Kinetic Emulator and a copy is found on your computer. How in the hell do I prove you stole it from me? Like I said, there's nothing to pirate.
I think you're using the wrong example here.
A bike is a physical object that cannot be "replicated", and what you're describing here is "theft", not piracy.
Piracy is making illegal copies of something that can be "copied" and either using it yourself or selling it for cash.
You can pirate anything that can be in digital format, including movies, music and software. If you have a copy of the software and you didn't pay for it, you've pirated it. It's that simple.
Software can be pirated regardless of how it's distributed.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: When Pigs Fly - The Joke Thread
« on: April 30, 2009, 03:50:37 PM »
Haha, awesome!
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: April 30, 2009, 03:23:52 PM »I'm not sure how much of that was directed at me (if any), but I don't think digital distribution is evil
It was from a general scan of the thread, really. I mentioned that Steam users could resell their games because Ian had mentioned not being able to do so while DD has clearly made allowances for this as well.
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I also have the option of buying the original for $5, which is what I choose. It's only a hassle if you make it a hassle. I choose to make it fun.
I don't see how this can't be a hassle, honestly.
1. Every additional piece of hardware that I need to connect to my TV adds more clutter and wires. It's highly impractical to have an NES, SNES, Genesis and TurboGrafix hooked up if I want to play any games from those consoles, especially considering none of them had wireless controllers or cords that could reach to where ever I want to be in my living room.
2. TVs don't have that many inputs, anyway. I already have a switchbox full from the Wii, PS3, 360 and Dreamcast. I'd have to daisy-chain another one in to get any more consoles in there.
3. Save states on VC games are just awesome. Being able to hit the menu button and come back to the game later at the same point is a godsend.
I understand some of the nostalgia factor, but really, having one console that can play all of these games is a godsend for both cost and convenience.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc. (Digital Distribution Discussion)
« on: April 29, 2009, 04:31:01 PM »
In the interest of rerailing this thread a bit:
1. Digital downloads are amazing because they remove the biggest barriers to entry when it comes to developing a product. There are game developers right now who would not be game developers at all if not for WiiWare.
2. A compilation disc of WiiWare's best games would be nothing shy of awesome. The amount of money the disc sells for could easily be the same price all of the games would sell for in stores.
3. Steam allows you to resell your copy of a game you purchased through their online store (to another Steam user).
4. Pale's point about games no longer being available on a console because the console itself is dead is a completely valid one. You may have paid $50 for SMB3 at one point (or your parents did) but you now have the option to pay $5 for it on a completely new piece of hardware without the hassle of finding a working NES or hooking a NES up to your TV to play it. Really, it's $5. Get over it.
5. Digital distribution will not be the death of the industry. Steam is basically keeping PC gaming alive right now and it's entirely through digital downloads. Remove Steam from the picture and all you're left with is WoW.
If you're frightened that your games may one day "go away", I think you need to seriously look at how many games have disappeared from your list of "playable" because the consoles got old and died. Would I have ever played Sonic Spinball with a controller ever again if not for the VC? Not likely.
If anything, DD has managed to save a lot of old games from perdition by bringing them back to us in a format that is both convenient and inexpensive.
Again, I think WW games should be released on compilation discs because it'll give more exposure to the format, but DD shouldn't be demonized like this when it's bringing so many new possibilities to the table.
1. Digital downloads are amazing because they remove the biggest barriers to entry when it comes to developing a product. There are game developers right now who would not be game developers at all if not for WiiWare.
2. A compilation disc of WiiWare's best games would be nothing shy of awesome. The amount of money the disc sells for could easily be the same price all of the games would sell for in stores.
3. Steam allows you to resell your copy of a game you purchased through their online store (to another Steam user).
4. Pale's point about games no longer being available on a console because the console itself is dead is a completely valid one. You may have paid $50 for SMB3 at one point (or your parents did) but you now have the option to pay $5 for it on a completely new piece of hardware without the hassle of finding a working NES or hooking a NES up to your TV to play it. Really, it's $5. Get over it.
5. Digital distribution will not be the death of the industry. Steam is basically keeping PC gaming alive right now and it's entirely through digital downloads. Remove Steam from the picture and all you're left with is WoW.
If you're frightened that your games may one day "go away", I think you need to seriously look at how many games have disappeared from your list of "playable" because the consoles got old and died. Would I have ever played Sonic Spinball with a controller ever again if not for the VC? Not likely.
If anything, DD has managed to save a lot of old games from perdition by bringing them back to us in a format that is both convenient and inexpensive.
Again, I think WW games should be released on compilation discs because it'll give more exposure to the format, but DD shouldn't be demonized like this when it's bringing so many new possibilities to the table.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc.
« on: April 27, 2009, 02:24:37 PM »As for Nintendo disabling their online service, as long as you've got the stuff downloaded that doesn't matter (WiiWare doesn't require any remote authentication)
Yeah, Wiiware /= Steam.
The game downloaded onto a Wii will be there forever.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games should be released on disc.
« on: April 26, 2009, 08:05:45 PM »
"Best of WiiWare" compilation discs should be sold in retail stores.
"Like these games? Find more like them in the Wii Shop Channel right now!"
That'd be the best thing in the world for WiiWare.
"Like these games? Find more like them in the Wii Shop Channel right now!"
That'd be the best thing in the world for WiiWare.
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TalkBack / Re: Let's Play GC on the Wii!
« on: April 26, 2009, 08:04:07 PM »
At least give us some of the GC games that didn't get their fair chance to shine.
Eternal Darkness, Twin Snakes and Geist are just begging for rereleases.
Eternal Darkness, Twin Snakes and Geist are just begging for rereleases.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Yamauchi tells it like it is
« on: April 24, 2009, 03:39:16 PM »
Ugg, shills bumping ancient posts for the sake of post count.
Lovely.
Made me realize what a callous ass I was in this post, though. I sure mellowed out a lot.
Also, half of these people don't even post here anymore.
Lovely.
Made me realize what a callous ass I was in this post, though. I sure mellowed out a lot.
Also, half of these people don't even post here anymore.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Bill Aurion's Sadhouse
« on: April 24, 2009, 12:35:10 PM »
Think of it like using the Bat signal.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: The Bastard Game
« on: April 23, 2009, 01:01:28 AM »If you're a regular and you mess up your quotes, then you're a bastard.
No, but I'm a bastard for editing it and fixing it.
Correct. If you you fix your mistakes so others can't call you a bastard, you're STILL a bastard.
Technically, that makes me some kind of super bastard.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: The Bastard Game
« on: April 22, 2009, 12:33:23 PM »If you're a regular and you mess up your quotes, then you're a bastard.
No, but I'm a bastard for editing it and fixing it.
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TalkBack / Re: Amazon.com Starts Selling WiiWare Games
« on: April 22, 2009, 12:22:19 PM »
It should be noted that I suggested this idea to Nintendo.
But yeah, this is great and will be great for giving more exposure to WiiWare in general.
As of yet, I'm not entirely certain that most Wii owners even know the service exists. In fact, I'd bet the opposite.
But yeah, this is great and will be great for giving more exposure to WiiWare in general.
As of yet, I'm not entirely certain that most Wii owners even know the service exists. In fact, I'd bet the opposite.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: WiiWare games have to hit a sales threshold before devs get paid
« on: April 21, 2009, 03:08:49 PM »I don't think the overhead would allow you to price the games normally then. Plus both Nintendo and the dev benefit from the online sales since none of the money goes to the logistics chain.
Yeah, the whole point of these games is that they're NOT being released on disc, thus ensuring that publishers aren't telling the developers what to do and generally ruining their lives.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: The Bastard Game
« on: April 20, 2009, 05:35:08 PM »That was the joke.If you're born and your parents aren't married, then you're a bastard.
Am I doing it right?
That's too right for the purpose of this thread.
So was that.
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Nintendo Gaming / Re: NPC! <what game would you insert here>
« on: April 19, 2009, 08:49:30 PM »
Eternal Darkness
MGS: Twin Snakes
Geist
MGS: Twin Snakes
Geist
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General Chat / Re: Anyone heard of Nespresso?
« on: April 19, 2009, 08:15:59 PM »You inspired me to bust out my French Press this week. The coffee is easily 3x taster than from my machine. Fresh and no hint of an ashy taste the machine can sometimes generate.
I swear by french presses for regular coffee as well.
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NWR Forums Discord / Re: The Bastard Game
« on: April 19, 2009, 08:14:30 PM »If you're born and your parents aren't married, then you're a bastard.
Am I doing it right?
That's too right for the purpose of this thread.
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