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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 05, 2006, 11:45:04 AM »
I'll never understand why some people just can't accept obvious reality when all the actual facts agree with it.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 05, 2006, 09:38:20 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: WesDawg
Sorry if I came off sounding... upset in that earlier post, but I think its a bit ludicrous to take these IGN specs and say, "Look at the GC and XBox. The GC was supposedly weaker, and yet their graphics were about the same." The GC and the XBox were speced about the same CPUwise. The XBox had more RAM and a HardDrive. The Cube had much faster RAM from what I remember. In the end, they were about equal. Any comments about which was more powerful were pure Microsoft PR.
These Rev specs and the 360 are nowhere close to each other though. If you think that its gonna play 360 games in low resolution, you're deluding yourself.
And that's why I don't think they're real specs. They're some dev unit specs that someone stupid leaked. Maybe someone not even in development, but just some guy they threw an old dev kit to when a new one was released by Nintendo. I doubt we know what the real Rev's specs are until the console is released and someone opens it up to look inside.
The XBOX's CPU was 733MHz and the GCN's was 485MHz and something. Those numbers are NOT "about the same." It evened out because of architecture, but the actual numbers weren't the same. And the XBOX is powerful. Not a ton, but it is the most powerful of the three systems.
You also underestimate Matt's contacts. These are not based on ONE person who doesn't work with the system. They're based on numbers from several sources, actual developers.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 05, 2006, 08:12:37 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: VGrevolution
It is funny, some of my favorite games of all time were not considered graphically impressive, they just accomplished what needed to be done. These games include games like Super Mario Sunshine, SM64, Zelda: Wind Waker, Kingdom Hearts I and II, and of course the many games I enjoy for SNES and NES.
Both SM64 and WW are considered very graphically impressive... (SM64 less so now, but at the time it was)
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official DS Sales Thread
« on: April 04, 2006, 08:21:01 PM »
The issue isn't what is overall broadband penetration, but what is broadband pentration amongst the target audience. I would say that at least 50% of console owners (including if Rev becomes more mainstream) will have Broadband, which is definitely NOT a niche. I'd imagine that much more like 75% of GameCube owners have it.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 03, 2006, 05:25:12 PM »
Well, Revolution.ign.com has been updated and the story still stands AS FACT.
Guess we can indeed lock this thread, as there is no issue with its veracity.
Guess we can indeed lock this thread, as there is no issue with its veracity.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 03, 2006, 04:22:44 PM »
Um...SSBM came out 3 weeks after the GameCube. I don't think that is 'months go by with nothing'.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 03, 2006, 08:06:30 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: MysticGohan
Actually, Craig Harris runs the DS Channel, not Matt. Rarely will you see an update on GC or Rev unless it's Recycled news from earlier.
The Problem with Matt is he admitts too little and far far too late when he's wrong, and it really hurts his creditability as an editor to be able to forsee thing's, obviously he was wrong about the PSP vs. DS debacle, and now singing a different tune. A year ago you couldn't get him to shut up in the mailbag without him bringing up the PSP for god knows what pointless reason.
Again, you're saying random things that are hyperbolic at best. He received a ton of letters about the PSP thing and the debate went on. He wasn't just inserting random comments.
Also, I know very well Craig Harris runs the DS channel. Mantidor said IGN, not Matt. And the Rev/GCN channels are updated when there IS news. Often the main cover story doesnt' change but the actual news articles do. And Rev has been updating at least 4/5 days for the past month or more. Look at PGC's rev news, they'd update once a week at best (because news is slim). Matt generates a LOT of good content to keep the site updated. If you think IGN never updates then compare them to PGC. You'll see they update more.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 03, 2006, 07:37:46 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: mantidor
I stopped going to IGN ages ago for what I think its a more valid reason, the overall anti-nintendo bias from Matt's own section to the whole site. The "successful launch of the psp" and the "lackluster launch of the DS" articles were just one of many, many examples. Nothing has been more entartaining than ign (and actually the whole gaming media) having to eat their own words regarding the psp vs ds battle.
Matt has more than once admitted how wrong he was (including in the now infamous 'list' video). He's also the most pro-Rev guy on the internet right now (with any sort of power).
And they up date daily about 95% of the time. Sometimes there's just nothing to update for Rev. DS is almost always updated.
And yes, an 'early' April Fools Joke is a lie, not a joke. Because if we start doing them on March 29, why not March 28? Or the 25th? If 3 days is funnier than 1, then surely six days is funnier than 3! We'll basically have to not trust any news stories for like the entire second half of March.
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General Chat / Favorite game sites?
« on: April 02, 2006, 08:40:21 PM »
Besids our lovely host, what are your favorite game sites?
I have two other sites that I visit on a daily (or more than daily) basis: Joystiq (and Rev/DSfanboy) and IGN (DS/Rev/sometimes Cube/GBA). I find that Joystiq gives me the most interesting news and allows me to stay uptodate with all platforms. IGN usually has the best news/biggest stories. They also have the best media browsing/backlog.
For weekly visits I have GameRankings where I keep upto date on whats hot. I also visit Nintendojo though it's a totally useless site (old habits). I sometimes visit AdvanceMediaNetwork too, but usually jsut the DS section.
What're yours?
I have two other sites that I visit on a daily (or more than daily) basis: Joystiq (and Rev/DSfanboy) and IGN (DS/Rev/sometimes Cube/GBA). I find that Joystiq gives me the most interesting news and allows me to stay uptodate with all platforms. IGN usually has the best news/biggest stories. They also have the best media browsing/backlog.
For weekly visits I have GameRankings where I keep upto date on whats hot. I also visit Nintendojo though it's a totally useless site (old habits). I sometimes visit AdvanceMediaNetwork too, but usually jsut the DS section.
What're yours?
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General Gaming / If at First You Don't Succeed...
« on: April 02, 2006, 08:35:56 PM »
Try and launch again.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=15791
It's from March 31, not April 1, so it's not an April Fools gag.
Though it's far funnier than any April Fools gag ever.
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The Xbox 360 is to be relaunched in Japan in late June in response to weak sales of the console, according to a report today which cites sources at Japanese wholesalers and indicates that an announcement of the relaunch could come next week.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=15791
It's from March 31, not April 1, so it's not an April Fools gag.
Though it's far funnier than any April Fools gag ever.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 08:27:14 PM »
If you ask me, there's other far more likely candidates in that video. Matt says we might see games before E3, for example.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: No Revolution loving from the analysts.
« on: April 02, 2006, 08:23:54 PM »
GameSpot has like the WORST AFD jokes ever. They're not even funny and usually they're rather rude to their readers.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 08:02:08 PM »Quote
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1Quoteplease lock it, and leave it on the curb for the garbage man too.
Originally posted by: Pale
Can I lock this garbage?
Some people can't accept that they have been had by a stupid prank just because it was pulled before they would have expected it to be pulled(which is probably why it was done that way in the first place). Get over it.
The joke is over with now and this discussion should be too.
There still isn't proof this is a joke...At best there's a very blurry video that even if it does say what people think, still doesn't prove this is a hoax.
Let's not forget a whole mailbag and video-section were devoted to this. Let's also keep in mind that if these specs are significantly lower than the real ones then Nintendo would NOT be impressed. And considering Matt's close ties to Nintendo, it just makes no logical sense.
It seems to me people just don't want to accept that these ARE real, which ALL the facts point to as being true.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 06:32:06 PM »
This is not a typical IGN affair. Name one previous example where they posted a news story that was a flat-out lie and then kept it going for four days (minimum).
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 05:57:41 PM »Quote
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Artimus, I have already explained why they would start their April Fools joke on Thursday.
If you want the story to spread and increase weekend traffic you would need to post the story b4 the weekend. If he waited until Saturday to post the Fake Rev Specs then nobody would heve believed him and the story wouldn't have gotten much attention.
This way he gets everyone on the internet in an uproar(this thread is how many pages long?), everyone talking about Matt C. & IGN, and everyone checking IGN over the weekend to validate the info. Not to mention this will also advertise their new weekly internet show.
You've been had, get over it, hold your head up high, no one is gonna think less of you for falling for an early April Fools joke, alot of people did, so you're not alone.
There's no such thing as an "early April Fools joke." If this story isn't true then it should be called what it is: a lie. And Matt should be fired.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 04:54:56 PM »
If it is April Fools then it's stupider than people who think it is April fools. The story was posted March 29, which is no excuse for the 'April 1 is Saturday' thing.
It's not fake.
It's not fake.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 01:25:20 PM »
You people are stupid if you think this was a joke, nothing more, just plain stupid. Really really really stupid.
Jason, Matt is very well aware of the comparisons and their issues. He went into great detail about that issue on IGN Weekly this week. Perhaps the original article was a little poorly done, but nothing more.
Jason, Matt is very well aware of the comparisons and their issues. He went into great detail about that issue on IGN Weekly this week. Perhaps the original article was a little poorly done, but nothing more.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: April 02, 2006, 08:07:23 AM »
I feel bad for Matt...he made this revelation for one reason: to get people to STOP talking like Rev graphics are going to be as good (these are his words). Why? Because Nintendo has been saying this for ages and still no one beleives them. He's probably THE most positive person on any site when it comes to the Rev and yet you guys get all angry.
This is all so tiresome.
This is all so tiresome.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official DS Sales Thread
« on: April 01, 2006, 07:51:39 AM »
There is no comparison between iTunes and TV DVD. One is hideous, full-screen, pay-for-stuff-that-was-free-last-night crap, the other is high quality and actually worth paying for.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: March 30, 2006, 03:39:51 PM »
I feel bad for Matt. He's been one of the most constant supports of the Rev and yet he gets slack for posting these numbers. In the latest mailbag he flat out says he thinks the Rev will be a huge success. He callsd developers who use the shell lazy, he has never said one bad thing about Nintendo's new direction. The guy is an admitted graphics-whore and he hasn't criticized this decision by Nintendo ONCE.
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TalkBack / RE:Iwata Promises Cheap Games
« on: March 30, 2006, 03:37:44 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: vuduQuoteBecause most first-party DS games are built from the ground up for the DS. Most third-party DS games are little more than GBA ports with minor touch screen features thrown in for an extra bullet point on the back of the box.
Originally posted by: Artimus
Can someone explain to me why most first-party DS games cost MORE than third party?
Trauma Center?
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TalkBack / RE: Iwata Promises Cheap Games
« on: March 29, 2006, 08:35:25 PM »
Can someone explain to me why most first-party DS games cost MORE than third party?
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: March 29, 2006, 08:34:09 PM »
It's not April fools, it's only March 29, it'd make no sense.
So how about them Bronkos?
So how about them Bronkos?
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: IGN Leaks Some Rev Specs Again! 3/29/06
« on: March 29, 2006, 06:04:55 PM »
One day Ian will realize his arguments are long over with and Nintendo is long past whatever he is talking about.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Wow! Over the Hedge = Gorgeous!
« on: March 29, 2006, 07:31:01 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: darknight06
Games have done the two screen 3D deal before, that's not all that new. However the engine itself does look really good though and I hope the game works out for them.
Never full-screen full-detail though.
I still think the character mdoels are insane.
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