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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Pre-Release Discussion (March 2017)

« on: October 25, 2016, 02:17:30 PM »

I don't think USB is an option for the tablet as a storage medium, they could very easily put a USB port on the device. But what are the logistics of lugging around a protable USB drive to store games on? Even if you go the flash route how is that better than SD cards?

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General Gaming / Re: PSP discussion

« on: October 24, 2016, 02:45:10 PM »

Update: I decided to hold off on getting a PSP for the time being. Christmas is coming soon, Thanksgiving is next month, I have to take a trip to Wichita KS for my dad's 60th birthday and my car might need some break work in the next week or two so money is going to be tight for a while.

When I do get one though my plan is to load it up with all the games I have currently first and then picking up actual UMD discs later. I want to wait until I can get this and a sizable Memory Stick without an adapter. Any large SD cards I buy in the near future will be for the Switch, assuming it requires or supports them.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Pre-Release Discussion (March 2017)

« on: October 24, 2016, 02:40:47 PM »

I am not so sure about that, it needs either 3-5 hours minimum or there should be a wireless charging solution. Most people play their 3DS as a home console anyways, kids play at school on the bus or playground right but that's for very short periods of time and for long commutes you have this plus your mobile device so while your Switch is charging on a road trip, play some Pokemon Go or Super Mario Run. I think that is what Nintendo is expecting people to do.

Another thing, back when you had to pay for batteries yes battery life was an issue, but in todays mobile connected world, chargers and charging stations are a dime a dozen. If they can work wireless charging into the system that works out even better. Also remember the New 3DS didn't even come with an A/C adapter so they might very well be working on winging their gamers from that practice like Key Billy pointed out.

Either way, we won't know more until what January or later anyways.
As for the JoyCon I am curious what their battery life is going to be, will there be situations where you need to charge the tablet separate from the controllers, now that might be an issue.

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Movies & TV / Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen

« on: October 24, 2016, 02:33:26 PM »

Has anyone seen that new Lethal Weapon series? I had my reservations at first but it's actually kinda good. Not as good as the movies but it works I think.
I only watched the first two episodes but I like it so far.



I also finally got to season 4 of Downton Abby, that show is a roller coaster I am thinking I might need to unbuckle and take some time off. The one character I want to die, won't, and the characters I like the most keep dying. I mean that sounds like the common complaint for the damn Walking Dead. I only watch Downton on Sundays because it is such a lazy Sunday afternoon show. But I have assignments due on Sundays so I am taking it real slow. Which is fine the show is real slow.

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo: No Additional Switch Information In 2016

« on: October 24, 2016, 02:23:15 PM »

NES Classic is not going to need a marketing blitz though. It will sell itself, how many of those Sega consoles and Atari consoles do you see advertised? None ever. Nintendo knows this. Youtube is all the marketing they need to do, that is done. NES Classic is not at all aimed at the same gamers who will save their money to buy a Switch instead it is squarely aimed at the casual gamers that just want a few random NES games to play and the hard core collectors that will buy it anyways.

They seriously can get away with spending zero dollars advertising and still sell out their entire inventory. It isn't a new console launching it is a side toy they are putting out there for the collector market and those casuals who don't keep up with gaming.


Also Switch won't really affect 3DS sales much at first, as there is always a year or two transition from old console to new, and how is it different from them revealing the GBA Micro the same time they revealed the DS. It's basically the same scenario only this time both handheld and console are performing worse than their respective counterparts were at that time.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Pre-Release Discussion (March 2017)

« on: October 24, 2016, 02:17:15 PM »

Okay Oohboy thanks for clarifying I wasn't sure. There are just too many conversations taking place all at once to keep track of them all.

Still, like I asked before, how does Nintendo do it on 3DS? Surely that system doesn't require mandatory installs and yes you can talk about what Sony and Microsoft are doing all day long but it is quite conceivable that Nintendo might not allow for those day one patches and mandatory installs on their machine.

Sure that might deter some 3rd parties but not if the system sells well enough to justify it. Again I am still thinking that developers will treat this as a handheld, meaning they will make the console version for the other two and optimize the games for this thing, just like they did with 3DS. This has enough of the console side to convince a few of them to port over their console games but I am still expecting them to treat this as a completely different machine than the other two.

Now before you reply that defeats the purpose, I disagree. The reason developers never supported the home console was it was always weird, nonstandard stuff that made their life more difficult and the console customers weren't going to buy three machines, the Sony/Xbox, the Nintendo console and the Nintendo handheld. But even during that entire time companies still made handheld versions of those games.

So once again, Nintendo's solution to being the and console is to eliminate the need for people to pick between the console (Wii U/Game Cube) and the Handheld (DS/GBA) instead they buy one machine. The reason developers are excited is it means instead of making THREE versions of the game, home console, Nintendo console, and handheld, they get  back to making TWO versions of the same game, home console and Switch. This is a very big deal this is WHY the Switch is a  big deal its more than just Nintendo can concentrate on making more games a year, it is also so 3rd party developers that still make a side game for the handheld continue to do so but the home console gamer gets to enjoy that game on their console.

Does that mean the games will be compromised sure it does, bring it on, I would rather they concentrate their efforts on making a very good handheld version that can be enjoyed on the TV rather than trying to make a low quality console version that is inbetween the handheld and console. I might not be explaining this right but I think the gist is there.


Midway, Capcom, Rock Star, even Rare made games for the Handhelds but not the consoles. If Nintendo markets this thing right, and words it right in the legal documents, there is EVERY BIT a chance they could simply pass this off as a true handheld and guess what, convince Microsoft to play ball and let Rare make games for it, now how damn cool would that be? That is what makes this huge. We need to, Nintendo needs to, the entire industry needs to think of this as Nintendo replacing the 3DS and just dropping out of the true console space. With that view in mind, taking this as the successor to the 3DS you can apply handheld logic to the development and under that plan you get not only MORE games, you get games from companies that might be reluctant to support an off brand home box but recognize in the handheld space Nintendo IS IT.



Basically what all that amounts to is they could convince third party companies to make the games work on this and 3rd parties don't see it as a Wii U they see it as a 3DS. In that scenario they will work within the limitations because this thing will easily outsell the other two but it will be the handheld market first and the console market along for the ride. Those who like the handhelds but want to play those games on the TV.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Pre-Release Discussion (March 2017)

« on: October 24, 2016, 11:39:44 AM »

How would Nintendo authenticate your purchase that you've saved onto a SD card without the internet?

The same way Steam does? As in how do you download a digital copy without the internet?

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Pre-Release Discussion (March 2017)

« on: October 24, 2016, 11:26:33 AM »

Oohboy I was not talking about compression. These carts are likely to be 32GB right? If that is the case isn't that enough to store the game itself? What I meant is there won't be any need to install any portion of the game to the internal memory because the read/write speed between the cart is so much faster than a disc drive. That was the benefit of installs right to alleviate the long loading times? Patches and DLC is a different matter. For the base game if you don't have to have a 15GB install that leaves room on the internal memory for DLC and patches. So you don't need as much space.

To be clear the more space the better, if they can include 64GB standard and support for SD cards that would be enough. IF, again IF there are no mandatory installs which is what having carts should mean, I don't own a 3DS so correct me if I am wrong but are there mandatory installs on it?


Maybe Cloud storage is bad was the wrong words. I enjoy my cloud storage with PS Plus, what I meant is as a solution to not having internal storage it is bad. There needs to be an offline option if their solution is cloud that is not a solution that is more of a problem. Being able to store your games and saves in the cloud as an option is a good thing. I should have clarified.


Also one last thing, if the  games are carts doesn't that mean they themselves can be read/write so that they can have save states built in, further reducing the need for storage? I mean I am just trying to consider all angles here.


My thinking is if the carts are large enough to store the game and can have save states, I thought DS games were read/write for that purpose? Then if they eliminate the need for mandatory installs, that just leaves you will buying digital purchases and DLC. 64GB is managebale for that if they allow for SD as an option.

There is no need to offer you an SD card for free, seriously at this point who here doesn't have a damn stack of these lying around? Isn't 32GB basically the standard SD card size with 64 and 128 very small premiums? If they offer 64GB out of the gate and can expand with SD cards most people who already have other devices already have 32GB SD cards, right?

bnmild your dream of dual SD cards would be perfect solution, I don't see why they can't do that.
Obviously the more storage the better, duh, but we have to accept that this is a portable device that connects to your TV first. This is the successor to the 3DS and they killed off their home console division. At least that is how I am taking this until we learn otherwise.

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General Gaming / Re: What is the last game you beat? Thoughts/impressions?

« on: October 24, 2016, 11:22:42 AM »

I am sure as a gamer that is good news, I love this game but damn it I thought I was near the end. It's okay I am not ready for it to end I just never have time to play it as much as I would like. I should have known though I didn't think there were 8 worlds yet and most Mario games  have at least 8 worlds.

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo: No Additional Switch Information In 2016

« on: October 24, 2016, 11:19:48 AM »

See that line of thinking is just baffling. Sony was very quick to get all the details on the PS2 out early enough before the Holidays to stop people from buying a Dreamcast in order to talk them into waiting, that worked really well for them, why wouldn't Nintendo want to try the same thing, come out now with all the goods and say don't you dare waste all your holiday money on Microsoft or Sony crap we have an amazing product just around the corner. Well because there is probably some really baffling, head scratching Nintendo move coming that is going to deflate the hype train and they are better off holding that until closer to launch when they get people sold on hype and promises. Except that isn't the smartest move.

Even making the excuse they don't want to cannibalize their 3DS sales this holiday is false, again Sony had no issue putting all the juicy bits out about PS2 to strike the Dreamcast even though they were still very much supporting the PS1. Nintendo is just being Nintendo and my fear is the really hard to swallow piece of news that steals all our hype and crushes all our dreams is the real reason they are holding back.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Recently I'm having a really hard time using these forums...

« on: October 24, 2016, 11:13:14 AM »

Phil, be thankful you weren't around when everyone was all obsessed with Daisy and my rotating avatars included images of the greatly underappreciated Lindsay Lohan.

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General Gaming / Re: What is the last game you beat? Thoughts/impressions?

« on: October 24, 2016, 10:56:00 AM »

Well Azeke if that is the case then I give up.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Archeology

« on: October 24, 2016, 10:53:43 AM »

Yes, it was supposed to be more of a "you made me feel old now I get to make you feel old" reply. Even though I think we're close to the same age.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Launch Lineup

« on: October 24, 2016, 10:51:37 AM »

What if the delayed Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing mobile games were delayed because they will also be launch title for the Switch because the Switch will be Android based!

I'm hoping Switch is android based and has access to Android stores. There could be a 1000 launch games if that's the case.

They could accomplish the same thing if the eshop and Virtual Console is fully populated but that isn't going to be the case either.

I doubt Nintendo would want to do anything that lets games exist on their machine they don't get money for. In fact I would go so far as to say that isn't just a pipe dream its not going to happen. Nintendo has changed in a lot of ways in the last 25 years but letting someone else put games on their system and not give them royalties isn't one of those changes.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Forum Snap Poll: How Sold Are You on the Switch?

« on: October 24, 2016, 10:33:32 AM »

  I knew that.



Anyways, I decided for me this system is about games, period. I loved the Wii, at first, but the games not so much. I liked many of the games but didn't like all the controller options, not only was it confusing at times but there were games that would have been more enjoyable with a solid controller option that wasn't so divisive. I think this has a base option that should work for the majority of games.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Switch Pre-Release Discussion (March 2017)

« on: October 24, 2016, 10:20:58 AM »

How will this console be so powerful and play the latest games and be the same price as an iPad that can play candy crush and angry birds? It just doesn't add up to me.

Please don't take this the wrong way but you can't look at what Apple does as an indicator of anything price related. They are like Cadillac, basically a Buick with fancier dressing you pay a premium price just for the Apple name alone. It has always been that way. Nintendo, as much as I love them, are far from a "premium" brand at this point.

Also just because Candy Crush is the most common game on the iOS doesn't mean it can't handle better games, maybe look at the actual App store before you pass judgment. I mean just saying.


As far as storage goes, I am not sure if it matters as much. 32GB is not enough, there is no denying that, BUT if this machine uses carts then the need for installs goes away, the whole reason for installs is to get the game into the RAM faster because the disc's take forever to load, that is the solution to the optical media problem. This does not have that problem so there is no need to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

That means nothing for patches though. I have a 1.5 TB drive plugged into my Wii U and that is a damn waste of space. I could have gotten by with a measily 250 GB and still had room to grow. My PS4 has 500 GB internal and I haven't even hit 25 percent yet.

If a person uses this as their only console and it is their only gaming option that would be an issue. But considering every system they have released since Wii supports SD cards there is no reason to assume this won't.

USB is not a solution hell it isn't even an option if this thing is supposed to be a portable. Not unless there is a way via I don't know the cloud or something to access the dock from when you are on the go but that sounds like a terrible solution.

Cloud storage is NOT GOOD either. Cloud is bad. Why? Because a portable device is going to be used at times and places where there is no internet access period. Gaming on the go doesn't work if you can not save your game locally and need internet, that would suck you play Zelda for 8 hours, make real progress but the internet is down and you can't save and then the battery dies and you lost everything. That won't work.

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TalkBack / Re: Current Known Third Parties Publishing On Switch

« on: October 23, 2016, 10:35:15 PM »

I checked with my in law again today. I didn't learn anything juicy but he told me with a smirk that while a lot of people are excited for it now not to get hopes too high, there might be some quirky thing left that could deflate a lot of the hype in typical Nintendo fashion but he is such an anti-Nintendo fanboy I just don't know what he could have meant.

But he did say they are in act making game but the reason they are not on the list of developers is because it is not a launch game and other things are not finalized just yet. Nothing specific but he said there is still a very Nintendo-esque reveal that could be make or break. I asked him what kind of game they are working on, he usually tells me what games he is working on but he said nope its a secret and its nothing to get excited over but the fact his studio never made a game for Nintendo before, has openly mocked them and isn't mocking this coupled with active enthusiasm suggests there is hope. The bit about one more final reveal that is make or break though could be anything.

When they showed his team the Wii at first he said sure it could work but then that hype deflated from a dev standpoint when it got to the guts. He said the guts in Wii were terrible their studio likes to push systems. So I asked him does that mean the Switch is powerful and he said with a wry smile, wait and see, its no PS4 Pro is all he said. But whatever it is the fact they are making a game for it is telling to me. He also said he has friends at other studios also looking at it, nothing specific, but he told me all about the PS4 about 6 moths before the reveal, nothing special there either just that their game was A. and what they hoped to do with it.
That is about it, he has never been a good source for Nintendo stuff because his company I won't say hates Nintendo but they dismiss them. Take it all however you wish. All I know for sure is he said he will buy one and he hasn't owned a Nintendo console since the SNES.

I have a friend in Microsoft also who does coding for their Windows division, he said that there are already rumblings withing that MS is going to respond with something around E3. I suspect Sony isn't in a position to do much but ride the VR train out and throw everything into PS4 Pro. MS has some room for changes because well they have the Surface and might try to revive their mobile phone plans, that isn't from anyone just me speculating. I couldn't get specifics because all he said was it's rumblings right now just that people in the company are talking about a plan of attack that might make things more interesting come next year.

Between MS being hell bent on taking over the living room, Sony gradually becoming Sega, and Nintendo just refuses to die, I think the next five years are going to go to Nintendo.

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General Gaming / Re: What is the last game you beat? Thoughts/impressions?

« on: October 23, 2016, 10:18:02 PM »

I made it all the way to the end of Super Mario 3D World, I died a few times on the last tower climb segment and gave up for a while. I spent the rest of the time testing all my recently purchased Game Boy games to make sure they all worked and so far every game is in working order.

Also looking through my Wii U purchases I remembered that I had already bought Kirby's Return to Dream Land so I played the first few levels of that. No I didn't get that far but I enjoyed the game a lot. I might put some time into this one. I just wish it didn't have that annoying shake the remote maneuver but I can I guess live with that if that. I wish  could play with the classic controller pro or even the Game Cube controller but since I am on a Wii U I don't know how to go about doing that if it even were possible.

I also spent some time in my PS3 digging through my retro library and spent a good twenty minutes on the first level of Gradius V. I don't want to make gaming into a chore that is for sure. I just wish I had more time to spend on a hobby I put way too much time and money into. Or I could scale back my purchases and keep just the stuff I know I will play but if I did that my entire library would be about 5 or so Super Mario games and Minecraft.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Archeology

« on: October 23, 2016, 10:10:02 PM »

http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/video?watch=9scd9tpd1u

Here is one for you Mr. Perm. I don't remember how to embed videos right now so the link will have to do.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Switch is actually a good name

« on: October 23, 2016, 10:03:05 PM »

I doubt Game Boy would fly in today's world though. I would have to be Game Person.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Forum Snap Poll: How Sold Are You on the Switch?

« on: October 23, 2016, 09:49:05 PM »

whatever.

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General Gaming / Re: What is the last game you beat? Thoughts/impressions?

« on: October 21, 2016, 11:58:08 PM »

I normally make time for Minecraft during the week so today I decided to try Minecraft Wii U edition. I have the PS4 version so that is my main one but I bought the Wii U one a month or so ago and it finally finished downloading today. NO my internet is not slow, I only plug my Wii U in when I plan on using it to save power so I had a bunch of games downloading. Anyways I tried it out today, I didn't like the controls as much as the PS4 version. Maybe I am just used to them so hopefully once I get used to them it will be better.

But I hate the save feature. It is so slow. Maybe that has something to do with the external hard drive I am using. It is a powered one, actually it is an older Seagate I used to use for my primary PC back up storage. It is a 1.5 TB drive. For some reason the Wii U keeps disconnecting from the hard drive so that makes downloading games, or installing updates, take forever. I think this is why I stopped gaming on it as much.

Needless to say I did go back to Super Mario 3D World and remembered why I quite. I am at the last castle but it requires 7 more stars to enter it and I just can't seem to get any more stars. I only play a few levels here and there but after about 20 minutes of looking for stars I give up and turn it off.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Nintendo Archeology

« on: October 21, 2016, 11:50:47 PM »

Watching that Wii U video I see how easy it was for people to think it was just a new controller for the Wii. I mean they said do this with the New Controller in every new segment and showed it with regular Wii games and accessories.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Introducing the Newest Nintendo Console: The $-Wii-tch

« on: October 21, 2016, 11:42:14 AM »

If they do that I am out. Damn you Pokepal I was just starting to like you.

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Gives First Details Of Nintendo Switch

« on: October 21, 2016, 11:39:02 AM »

As a home console if you are looking at Nintendo you are looking in the wrong place since about 1995. They have pretty much cemented themselves as a second console. But as a handheld they have always been IT, as in the only game in town that really mattered. This is about as close to pleasing everybody as they can ever get. Is it going to convert die hard Xbox and PS fans over? Not likely. Is it going to attract people that bought those consoles because the Nintendo offering was lacking in some way, sure very likely.

I see the console space like this. There are the PC gamers that can't afford PC gaming who buy an Xbox.
There are the Nintendo gamers, the old school old timers who grew up with what we call today retro. They split, half of them went to Sony, the other half split in two between Sega and Nintendo. The Sega fans split after Dreamcast into thirds leaving them a small, insignificant but highly VOCAL minority on the web. They are the ones that vocalize the most negativity towards Sony and Nintendo out of spite.
Then there are the Nintendo loyalists which are divided between the console and handheld units for obvious reasons. The console typically has the larger more "epic" games while the handheld tends to have the more pick up and play retro style games. The problem is the handheld has caught up to what most console gamers wanted and the console became stagnant so there isn't any reason to buy both systems because the console barely did anything the handheld didn't but usually the handheld had at least 30-40 exclusives the console gamers wanted to play but not badly enough to spend the extra $150 + to do so.


So the Sega fans will do what they always do, the Sonic fans will buy the Nintendo console and wait and see, everyone else, that's it Sega doesn't have any fans left just Sonic fans. So that userbase is gone they don't count anymore there were maybe 5 million of them total they are not dwindled down to maybe a million or less.

The SNES fans that migrated to Sony are the harder ones. These gamers stick with Sony because it's their best shot, its tradition at this point. They were Nintendo gamers for 2 generations and Sony gamers for 4 generations so their no longer Nintendo gamers. These are the gamers that bought a Nintendo for the 3rd party greats like Castlevania, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Doom, Final Fantasy, those games left Nintendo their fans did to.

Now they have grown up. This is where it gets tricky. The kids who grew up with Nintendo that split along those above lines, they are as divided as ever. But they DO have very strong warm emotional feelings for Nintendo that can be used to bring them back, but they need convincing most want something that doesn't skimp on the expected features. This doesn't have a disc drive and is not intended to be a Blu Ray player. We have come to terms with Nintendo consoles not playing movies on media. Okay but the world has now changed the tables have turned, nobody cares about disc media anymore they all watch Netflix. So that is no longer a deterrent from the Nintendo console.

Wii U was the last console that should have played movies on disc that didn't. But that wasn't likely a factor so its out.

Then there are the kids that grew up on Playstation. They never played the games the Nintendo gamers are fond of but they did experience the 3rd party games, the same ones. This is what unifies them, FF, Castlevania, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, etc, they are loyal to Sony because that is all they have known. Even the PS3 had a slow start it still had the games they expected it to have so they stuck with them.

They are locked in. Nintendo can ONLY win them back if they have the same stuff Sony does and Nintendo stuff but they aren't that excited for the kid friendly Nintendo stuff so they mock the rest and shrug them off. Those gamers are out they are firmly locked into PS4 and maybe are drooling over PS VR.

Then you have the casuals. These are the gamer that ONLY play their favorite sports game with their friends and pick up a few online shooters to say they are gamers but they don't really fit into the gamer culture. We call these people dude bros in a negative way but their a majority of the gaming public. They laugh at Nintendo for their unusual decisions. They might be enticed to get the Nintendo console, like Wii, if it has something they want, something cheap with a good party vibe. These gamers are always in flux but most of them want the latest console to play with their friends, they migrate when they have to, when the old consoles stop giving them new Madden games. This has been the hardest segment for Nintendo to keep because they are one segment but Nintendo thinks they are two. Nintendo thinks the Wii Sports gamers are into Wii Sports because it was pick up and play and not because it was a sports game. Nintendo thinks their Mario Sports games are real sports games and don't get why the casual gamers but hard core sports fans mock them. These gamers also pick up a Halo or GTA on the side because it's "cool".


The kids coming up, the new teenagers and the gamers coming into the mix are always up for grabs. They are the reason there is no brand loyalty in the larger market. This is why the Atari loyalists didn't flock to the NES when the kids coming up did. We knew about Atari, many of us seen Atari or had played Atari but Nintendo was where it was at. Our younger siblings they came up on Sega and SNES the rest split and went to Sony. The kids coming up loved Playstation because it had Crash, Spyro, Lego, etc.

Xbox is the odd duck. They literally have no reason to exist their machine is just a PC for the living room. PC's are dead gaming has moved on so I don't see them lasting for much longer so that leaves room for Nintendo and Sony to swoop in and pick up those gamers. There are loyalists to Xbox who are into the multiplayer scene and Nintendo can win them over easily if they can do multiplayer right and it looks like they did. Xbox did multi better than GC it had the 4 controllers local and it had Live. But Live is no longer and advantage for them.

That is way more than I set out to type most people will skim so there it is my ramblings for the day.