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TalkBack / RE: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Import Review
« on: February 10, 2004, 05:45:03 AM »
Your first two questions can easily be answered by reading the review.  Of course no one in their right mind would attempt to review something without playing it.  There isn't a GBA version.  It will be released in Europe on March 11th, and has the same free GBA to GC cable offer for preorders.

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General Chat / RE: Firebird is dead, long live Firefox
« on: February 09, 2004, 10:23:20 PM »
Yeah, I got a new theme, and it seems to be fine now.  Also, I really dig having a Google bar.

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General Chat / RE: Super Mario Brothers 3 Miracle!
« on: February 09, 2004, 10:11:47 PM »
yes we have

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General Chat / RE: Firebird is dead, long live Firefox
« on: February 09, 2004, 09:33:41 PM »
Yeah, I'm having random problems too.  My back button disappears and only comes back with a full reboot, and I'm having problems with long drop-down menus.

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TalkBack / RE: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Import Review
« on: February 09, 2004, 09:18:24 PM »
I'm not sure you understand.  It's a GameCube game, not a GBA game, but you have to use GBAs as controllers to play multiplayer.  

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TalkBack / FF Crystal Chronicle Review Extravaganza!
« on: February 09, 2004, 07:36:23 PM »
We present three very different views of Final Fantasy's arrival on GameCube.

As many of our readers already know, sometimes Planet GameCube features multiple  reviews of major/controversial games.  And sometimes those reviews will give very different perspectives of the same game.  Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles is one of those cases in which our staff simply does not agree.  Rather than having all three reviews separated (and open to more flame wars), we wanted to highlight our multiple review system and let you see FFCC from all sides.


Daniel's review focuses on single player in the Japanese version, and since his review came first, he takes a lot of time explaining many of the game's systems.  He takes a middle of the road approach and gives some credit to single-player.


Ty's review is also based on the Japanese version, but despite trying both single-player and multi-player, Ty is far from impressed.


Jonny's review examines the North American version of the game.  He enjoyed multi-player thoroughly but found single-player ultimately worthless.  


Crystal Chronicles is a game whose appeal depends strongly on the player's expectations, taste in action-RPGs, and availability of equipment and other players.  We hope you'll be able to digest all three of these positions and see whether this is a game you'd like to pick up.


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TalkBack / Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Review
« on: February 09, 2004, 07:32:52 PM »
Square’s return to Nintendo consoles is a great multiplayer game, but it shouldn’t be played alone or with RPG expectations.

Review by Jonathan Metts

*Note: This review is not an editorial on the GBA requirement for playing the game in multiplayer.  I am reviewing the game on its own merits and assuming you have access to enough people and equipment to play the game as it is meant to be played.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (FFCC) has been compared to everything from Gauntlet to Diablo in an attempt to describe its unusual game concept.  Its closest relative is probably Square’s own Secret of Mana, another real-time action/RPG with multiplayer features.  Crystal Chronicles even shares a similar character design philosophy with the Mana series.  However, this monumental return of the Final Fantasy series to GameCube carries with it the burden of many expectations inherent to that name, most of which it doesn’t even try to fulfill.  FFCC blazes its own path, one light on story and very heavy on multiplayer features.  My friends (who are integral characters in this review, by the nature of the game) had a tough time understanding why FFCC doesn’t have summoning monsters or real-time battles, but everyone who got to play the game in multiplayer came to love it for what it is.

We played the entire game with three players, only venturing out with two for trips to the blacksmith or attempts at “leveling up” (increasing stats by replaying levels).  I have not played the game with four players since E3 2003, but I know the experience is very similar to three players, just more chaotic and with more specialization available for each player.  Going with only two players is a less active and ultimately less entertaining exercise in communication and cooperation, as the available battle strategies are simply not as diverse.  I also briefly tested the single-player mode, which employs a different interface and control layout, as well as some weird tactics for cooperating with your moogle helper.  Playing this game alone is, to be blunt, not recommended.  It’s much like playing Mario Party or Smash Bros. alone.  It’s a nice feature to have for players who want to improve their skills, but the gameplay just doesn’t adapt very well for a single player.  Without the constant communication and strategizing the game forces upon you in multiplayer, plowing through levels and hacking at enemies gets boring quickly.  Just as normal games often have “tacked on” multiplayer features, FFCC has a “tacked on” single-player mode.  Its inclusion is appreciated but should not be relied upon.

With even as few as two players, but preferably three or four, Crystal Chronicles is one of the most innovative and enjoyable multiplayer games around.  Within the first minute of action, players begin to settle into roles which may last for the entire stage, then reverse completely for the next one.  The person who picks up the Cure spell will have to be responsible for healing the whole group, at least until another copy of the spell pops up from a defeated enemy.  The person whose GBA shows the level map will have to lead everyone, since the terrain is hard to navigate otherwise, with such a zoomed-in, overhead camera.  The person carrying the chalice will have to move quickly and make sure its protective aura reaches close to nearby enemies, so that the others can fight without the disadvantage of standing in the poisonous miasma outside.  Most of these roles can be swapped around at will, simply by dropping unwanted spells and taking turns with the chalice, but it can be a lot of fun to simply accept what the game gives you and try a style of playing that you may have missed out on before.

The game progression is a bit odd.  There are distinct levels scattered on the world map, along with a few towns and crossroads, where story scenes take place.  The levels tend to be pretty big, often taking over an hour to complete.  There is no way to save mid-level, although it is possible to teleport out of the level and save on the world map.  You’ll lose some of your loot by doing that, however.  All the levels are full of enemies, most of them strong enough to require at least two attackers at once.  Some enemies require special tactics, such as the huge Zu birds which must be brought down with a coordinated Gravity spell.  Others have vicious frontal attacks but are vulnerable in the rear, so decoy tactics work well.  Bosses can require more complex strategies, such as frequently moving the chalice or having one person kill minions while others attack the big guy.  Most of the levels are not terribly hard, though they do ramp up quickly towards the end of the game.  After a level has been completed, it can later be replayed with stronger enemies, new paths, and better treasures.  There are about a dozen of these levels, which isn’t a huge number but is sufficient considering each one’s size and the fact that significant changes are present in subsequent visits.  After beating the first level two or three times, it became so hard that our play group couldn’t even reach the boss.

Characters grow through the “years” by assembling new equipment and collecting stat bonus rewards at the end of each level.  Creating new weapons and armor is a fundamentally simple matter made complex by the insane number of special ingredients available (which must be stored in your limited inventories).  End-of-level bonuses depend on which artifacts the group found in the level.  Each artifact grants an immediate but temporary bonus on the person who found it; the effects include stat increases, extra command slots, longer life bars, and permanent spell rings.  Then, after the boss has been defeated, players take turns choosing one artifact out of the pool to keep permanently.  The choosing order is based on how well each player accomplished his secret bonus goal, so this feature adds a touch of friendly competition to the game.  In general though, you want everyone to be strong in order to beat the hardest levels.  It’s in everyone’s best interests to share or at least trade around building materials, extra spells, food, etc.

All these ideas make for a game that feels much like Secret of Mana or Phantasy Star Online, but with levels and puzzles and enemies specifically designed for multiple players who are very much required to communicate and work together at all times.  It’s a different way to play games than I’m used to, and it’s a lot of fun for everyone involved.  Discussing battle plans out loud, counting down together to nail the timing on a fusion spell, and heckling the player who’s always a step behind all become part of the experience.  The game’s set-up makes it easy to move different players in and out of the quest at any time, and nothing will blow up if a cord comes loose…just plug it back in and wait a few seconds for the software to download back into the GBA.

Crystal Chronicles will appeal strongly to fans of dungeon hacks and other types of real-time adventures, but almost anyone can enjoy a few levels of multiplayer fun, if not a full quest.  What practically everyone will revile, however, is the game’s pitiful story.  It’s true that telling a coherent story is difficult in such an unusual game structure, especially considering that players may come and go as the story rolls along at its own pace.  Nevertheless, it’s hard to justify the seemingly random vignettes and preposterous dialogue found in this game.  The level introductions, fully voiced by a woman who speaks with a light Celtic accent, are an utter joke.  If you aren’t put off by the writing, with such zingers as “Never…trust…a monster,” you’ll be appalled at her vain attempts to dramatize the script.  Real-time cut-scenes, which occur mainly at the world map’s crossroads, star a small cast of recurring characters who are usually trying and failing to be either funny or foreboding.  I can respect that FFCC tries to tell its story in a new way, but the story itself is vacuous and poorly written.  Devoted Final Fantasy fans who manage to adjust to the radically different gameplay may still be turned away by the inexcusably poor story elements.

That would be a shame, of course, because Crystal Chronicles is a unique game that can be very engaging with friends.  Despite a few shortcomings and a few ideas that just don’t work out, the game is immensely enjoyable when played with a competent and cooperative group.  Its mechanically simple gameplay is fleshed out by the cooperative aspects laced into every level, and the initially easy challenges evolve into some absurdly difficult final levels and bosses.  If you have the people and equipment to play it, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles is a great adventure that has no trouble standing out from the crowd of GameCube RPGs.  Ahem.


Pros:
  • Cooperating with friends to solve puzzles and beat enemies
  • Unbelievable graphics
  • Pleasant, unusual Celtic soundtrack

    Cons:
  • The story goes nowhere.
  • Laughable voiced level intros
  • Too many niche forging materials clog inventories

    Graphics: 10.0
    FFCC is easily one of the best looking games of this generation, on any platform.  The character designs are in the vein of older FF games, while the environments are laced with bump-mapping and the most subtle, gorgeous water effects I’ve ever seen.  It’s worth watching the awful cut-scenes just to soak in all the visual wonder.  The bosses look great, including some crazy new monsters and remakes of a few classics.  The game never slows down, regardless of the number of players or intensity of battle.

    Sound: 8.0
    The music is heavily inspired by Celtic folk traditions, and the instruments used give every song a distinct flavor not usually heard in game music.  The woman who provides voiceovers hardly sounds genuine, and her lines are clumsy at best.  Luckily, she only speaks during level intros, which can be skipped.  The fully voiced theme song sounds decent, but its translation from Japanese has left the lyrics crammed too tightly into the rhythm.

    Control: 9.0
    The game is designed to work well with the GBA’s limited buttons, while the camera usually gives a good view of the action, which is fortunate since it would be a nightmare to implement any sort of camera control in a multiplayer game with GBA controllers.  Menus are easy to navigate, and the game thoughtfully moves your character along while you’re rummaging in the inventory for something.  Single-player controls are a bit more fully featured, but there’s still no analog control, which makes little sense and feels funny on the GameCube controller.

    Gameplay: 8.5
    Clever game and level design force players to work together constantly, and good communication is a must.  The action itself is very simple, and it’s too bad that there aren’t more physical attacks and spells to choose from.  Bosses require new tactics, but many of them succumb to simple attack combos with a healer keeping everyone alive.  Others are very difficult and truly satisfying to conquer.  The distribution of specialized information and bonus objectives for each player is clever and works mostly to the game’s benefit, as players choose what to share and what to covet.  Overall, it’s great multiplayer fun, but don’t even bother playing alone.

    Lastability: 7.0
    The self-updating levels continue to be interesting and challenging after multiple plays through, thus allowing for “leveling up” of stats.  The quest takes 15 to 25 hours to complete, unless you get to the end and find that you’re not strong enough to even see the last boss, much less beat him.  The game is quite replayable; just bring in different players for a very different experience.  There are a couple of mini-games, but they aren’t worth wasting your time on.

    Final Score (Not an average): 8.5
    It’s not much of a Final Fantasy game, but Crystal Chronicles is a blast to play through with an active group of adventurous friends.  Show off the amazing graphics to lure in the cautious ones, and skip through the level intros if you want to keep them around.  If you can round up all the GBAs and cables, this is a quest worth taking on.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: GCN 2 possibly delayed...
    « on: February 09, 2004, 03:35:28 PM »
    I'm killing this overhyped "news" right now.  All it means is that there won't be a new console until 2006, which is what it looks like Sony and Nintendo seem to be aiming for anyways.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
    « on: February 08, 2004, 04:04:54 PM »
    Please, those videos were so compressed.  The last thing you want to do is use them to judge graphics quality.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: A new SCU for you.
    « on: February 08, 2004, 08:55:17 AM »
    Err... It's spelled SKU, not SCU.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: Burnout
    « on: February 07, 2004, 01:09:37 PM »
    I don't think there's been any solid info either way, but there's a better chance now that it's in EA's hands.

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    General Chat / RE: Hilarious MSN quotes / mis-quotes in here
    « on: February 07, 2004, 10:01:05 AM »
    Yo chill out on the sex talk or I'm shutting this thing down.  

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
    « on: February 07, 2004, 09:37:07 AM »
    Ok, I felt this was a poll when it first started, but let it go since people usually had a lot to say.  However now it's basically a flame war with people attacking great games that they just personally didn't like.  Deg handled that pretty well, and I think that part of what makes you fit to be a professional reviewer is the ability to separate your personal likes and dislikes from analyzing the design and quality of the game.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: 4 New Zero Mission Vids.
    « on: February 07, 2004, 09:20:41 AM »
    Monday in the US.  That varies from store to store of course.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Discussion
    « on: February 07, 2004, 09:05:26 AM »
    Oh whatever.  This arguing is senseless.  It's a huge collaboration between SK, Nintendo, Konami, and film director Ryuhei Kitamura.  Follow the link to find out who's responsible for what so you don't go giving credit to the wrong team.   And here's the main page too.  

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: Metal Gear Solid 2
    « on: February 07, 2004, 08:53:17 AM »
    Yeah, that might be fantastic if they bothered giving us some of their other games too.  I mean the only other thing they've put out on GameCube is like Disney Sports.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: Only the Best?
    « on: February 06, 2004, 03:29:13 PM »
    glorified poll

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    NWR Feedback / RE:News Pages
    « on: February 06, 2004, 03:24:02 PM »
    Quote

    Originally posted by: SearanoX
    saves you the work of having to put the articles in two places at once.  


    Actually, once we moved to these forums, the site code allowed us to do that automatically. So when things are running normally, we just post to the site, and the code handles putting things in the forums.

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    I think it's funny how people just assume that the DS is a countermove to the PSP.  They have entirely different feature sets for one, and there's no way Nintendo could have had time to put together a system and launch it at the same time if they had started after they knew about the PSP.  Remember the GBA SP was in development before the GBA even came out, and although I don't know anything official, considering the design of the GameCube, it seems that the Game Boy Player was likely in development before the GC was released.  These companies are always having to think about the future.

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    NWR Feedback / RE: News Pages
    « on: February 05, 2004, 04:22:43 PM »
    We're almost finishing up fixing things I think.  Hopefully we'll be back to normal in a couple weeks at the most.  2003: The year of unmentionable technical problems. :-/

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: FF Crystal Chronicles: Ask a question, get an answer
    « on: February 05, 2004, 04:12:17 PM »
    Oh please stop.  It hurts so much to hear you constantly asking about clothing.  I've already told you all there is to know.  Has FFX-2 ruined the minds of our youth?

    A miller grinds grain.  I'm really not so sure where it gets you in the game though.  I went with sensible families like blacksmiths and merchants.

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    Hooray, huge editorial that no one wants to read posted in the wrong part of the forums.  Place your comments on the DS in the relevant threads in Talkback, Other Systems, or Fast Forward.  We don't need a new thread on this subject right now anyways.

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    Nintendo Gaming / RE: NINTENDO IS SOOO CHEAP!!!!!
    « on: February 05, 2004, 04:06:06 PM »
    Oh hey and he got banned for his 100% vulgar comment early on.

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    TalkBack / RE: Prince of Persia Sequel Planned
    « on: February 04, 2004, 03:45:07 PM »
    I think it's great, but I'm not sure I dig the Sands of Time coming back.  

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    TalkBack / RE: Splinter Cell Sequel Delayed On GameCube
    « on: February 04, 2004, 03:43:51 PM »
    Not necessarily. I mean, it came late too.

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