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stevey-2
Luigi Dude-2
TOPHATANT123-2

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 17, 2020, 10:55:43 PM »
What's the townie/mafia ratio now?
I know playing along is fun to do when you are dead but I can't really answer you. 

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I'm very disappointed in this announcement. The Fire Emblem series is already over-represented in Smash as it is. The game has 7 FE characters, we don't need an 8th. There are so many better choices, both first party and third party.
This is probably the most even handed response I have seen.  I applaud you.

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I'm sorry everyone. I made a mistake with things and I wasn't paying close attention to what I said.   There wasn't a hit and the results are as follows.

Khushrenada was a townie and he was voted out.
Alexia was successful in getting her second goon.

The next possible day Alexia could use a hit is on Day 6 and that only happens if Alexia is voted out and she picks one of her goons to send in the hit going forward. If Alexia is still alive come Day 6 then she would be able to neighborize or send in a hit that day.   If the  OG Mafia is gone from the game that would change to Day 5 as the next possible day Alexia could use an action.

Now if you excuse me I am going to set my mind right....

Carry on.

Edit: Since I made a mess of the early part of the day I am going to extend Day 5 until the 19th at 2:40 PM AZ time. That will be 48 hours.   Majority is 6 players voting for the same person. 



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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84:RE:CV Rules and player alive list
« on: January 17, 2020, 04:15:50 PM »
Players alive list:

Mr. Bungle
TOPHATANT123
Nickmitch
Mop it up

Dead players:
Stratos- townie
GK-townie
ThePerm-townie
ShyGuy-townie
Khushrenada-townie
Luigi Dude- First OG Mafia Goon#2 into Ashford Mafia Goon #1
stevey-Alexia Ashford
Insanolord-Albert Wesker
Steefosaurus-townie
lolmonade- former OG Mafia Goon #1 and transformed into Ashford Mafia Goon#2/ 1st Successor.
Pokepal148- former Townie Encryptor turned into Ashford Mafia Goon #3/2nd Successor

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NWR Mafia Games / Mafia 84:RE:CV Rules and player alive list
« on: January 17, 2020, 04:13:39 PM »
What is a Mafia hit?

The Mafia gets to attack 1 person each night with a kill action or neighborize action. To start Albert Wesker will start with the Mafia actions on odd days and then on even days Alexia Ashford will use her neighborize actions.

What happens in the event of a tie?
In the event there is a tie and the day is over then I will have a 30 minute period to break the tie.  Anyone can break the tie.  Be it someone unvoting for one of the players in a tie or someone who hasn't voted yet and then deciding to vote for one of the players in the tie. I will keep the 30 minute period going for that whole time and I will go with whoever has the most votes at the end.  If for whatever reason there is a tie still after the 30 minute period then I will randomly choose someone alive and kill them.

Rules for the game

This game will be an open setup meaning that every single role will be known at the start of the game to those playing. Meaning you won't have to ask me if such and such a role is in the game or not.

I currently have 5 roles for the game with the remaining players being normal townies and Mafia goons.

The day period will run for 48 hours or until a majority is reached and is held for at least a hour. The night action period, in which certain roles may submit their night actions will last for 24 hours after the end of day period. After those 24 hours have passed the next day will begin.  I will start the next day earlier if I get every action in and get confirmation that they don't want to change their night actions before the 24 hours are up.

Typically for my games I have a voting requirement but because of a certain role people can vote as much or as little as you like. It is up to the players to call out this sort of behavior and do something about it.

As there is two Mafia teams the two Mafia will alternate Night actions. The Organization Mafia will get odd game days to send in their actions. The Ashford Mafia will use their actions on even game days.

To win this game the Townies have to survive both Mafia and have at lease 1 player still alive to win.
 The Organization will need to destroy the Ashford Mafia of all of its members and have an equal or more members of the Mafia to townie players. 
The Ashford Mafia will need to destroy the Organization Mafia of all of its members. They will also need to have equal or more members to the remaining townie players.

In the event one Mafia team dies the remaining Mafia team will be able to use their actions each day.

Frequently asked questions

These are questions I have received throughout the game and I will update this part with answers to those questions. 

From Day 1 from steefosaurus:
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The Ashford team cannot kill anyone until their numbers equal or outnumber the Wesker mafia. This means if we're lucky and vote out one Wesker Goon today, Night 2 is the first time they could be striking.

My response: This isn't exactly accurate.  Alexia Ashford would have to neighborize 2 alive players before sending a hit. The main thing is to unbalance the townies/Wesker Mafia to gain members.  OH also as the Alexia Mafia gains members that makes them more of a late game threat while the Organizational/Wesker Mafia is more of a early game problem.   Since the Organizational Mafia started with 2 goons Alexia would have to match that number before sending in a hit.  However say Alexia neighborizes 1 player tomorrow and then the following night Alexia is killed/voted out than that singular player would be able to start sending in hits right away on even days. 

Question from Day 3 from Steefosaurus

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As I understood it, the Alexia side can only strike when they equal the Wesker side in numbers, so if we miss again they don't get to kill on Night 4 yet.

My response:
So the Ashford Mafia would have to have 2 goons on their side regardless of how many Mafia there is on the Organization Mafia side.  Reason being is because the Organization Mafia started with 2 goons so the Ashford Mafia would have to have 2 goons as well before being able to send in their Mafia hit.    The earliest that the Alexia could use her hit is Day 5 and that only happens if she gains a 2nd goon on Day 4 and the Organization Mafia is gone from the game thus being able to use their action each night.  If there remains one Organization Mafia member on their team then if Alexia gains a second goon on Day 4 then the first opportunity to use the hit is on Day 6.  The hit gets delayed if she fails at gaining a second goon on Day 4.   

Question on day 4 from stevey

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Wait, so does that mean Alexia can keep turning players even after she reaches 2 goons? Will she be able to both kill and borg assimilate players on even nights? Say Khush was turned on day 2 and Poke is turned on day 4, if we vote out Khush tonight, will that prevent Alexia from having 2 active goons and a hit?

And just to confirm, assimilation happens during the night correct? So if a player is turned and investigated tonight, what happens? Will the investigator see it or does he have to send his action in after Alexia?

My Response:

Yes once Alexia reaches 2 goons she can continue to neighborize players  for as long as she is alive.  However on even days she has the option to either neighborize or use the Ashford Mafia hit.   If the OG Mafia is all gone then Alexia would take over both nights so she could neighborize on odd days and then kill on even or any number of combonations of those two but only one of them each day.  So for example she could neighborize both days, kill both days, kill on the odd day and neighborize the even day or vice versa.

As to having 2 goons alive that would be required to have the hit on even nights.  So yes if the turned player is voted out that would stop the Ashford Mafia from getting a hit.  Alexia could still neighborize to attempt to get back up to two goons.

As to the assimilation question... The assimilation can happen anytime during the day or at night. It really depends on when I hear back from Alexia on who they want to neighborize.   As to the investigator and a neighborized player, It really depends on who Alexia nighborized and if the investigator investigated the same player.  If say Alexia neighborizes someone and the investigator investigated the same person at any point in that particular day either before or after the neighborize then the investigator would get the updated results after the day is closed since the investigator would have already gotten results back from me earlier in the day.  So the investigator would have to take action with that info the following day.   

Asked on Day 3 by Khushrenada

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Question to the host about the turned player. If the player had a role before like Wesker Mafia Goon 1 or Townie Doctor or even Townie and they were investigated now after being turned, would the investigation reveal them to be Wesker Mafia Goon 1 and Ashford Mafia Goon 1 or Townie Doctor and Ashford Mafia Goon 1? Or would they just come back as their original role or just show up as Ashforn Mafia Goon 1? Do they still keep their previous role and can keep using the ability or is it lost once turned?

My Response: Okay so first of all.   With the turned Ashford Goon.  If investigated after turning they would come back as what role they started as and the new Ashford Goon role so in this case Ashford Goon #1 and whatever role they had before. 

As to if the turned player keeps their previous role power no they do not.  So if for example if the doctor was turned they would become Alexia's goon and they wouldn't be able to protect anyone or themselves.    Once turned they are essentially a husk of their former selves doing Alexia's bidding.   

Question on Day 3 by Khushrenada.

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A little more info in regards to the Ashford mafia. The mafia needs a second goon to achieve hits. They currently have one. Let's say ShyGuy is Ashford and gets voted out. That leaves the one goon left. Does the goon know have the ability to turn another player or is that power lost with Ashford's death? If the goon can inherit the power and turns a player on Day 4 then would that allow the second mafia to start making hits on Day 6 even though Ashford died since the mafia would have achieved a total of three members even with one in death?

My response: So if ShyGuy is voted out and is Alexia then the Ashford hit would go to the person they select from her goons. The Neighborize power is Alexia's and Alexia's alone so if voted out then the Ashford Mafia wouldn't be able to grow their numbers anymore.  However the next possible even day that turned goon would be able to send in a Mafia hit for the Ashford Mafia.  If that turned player is voted out as per usual with my games the hit would be stopped.  Oh also.  Alexia and Albert show up as normal townies in investigations which is pretty typical for mafia games for the leaders of a mafia team. 

If I had allowed the Goon that was turned to continue to have the neighborized power after Alexia's death then the game could turn into a game of "Find the turned player and vote them out" and it would be drawn out until there is very little players on one side and the Ashford Mafia having a large amount of players on their team.

To put the above another way...

Alexia + 2 goons= Mafia hit
No Alexia + any number of goons= Goon using the hit - neighborize ability= less alive players for the Ashford Mafia but sooner Mafia hit.

Question from stevey on day 4

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Wait, so does that mean Alexia can keep turning players even after she reaches 2 goons? Will she be able to both kill and borg assimilate players on even nights? Say Khush was turned on day 2 and Poke is turned on day 4, if we vote out Khush tonight, will that prevent Alexia from having 2 active goons and a hit?

And just to confirm, assimilation happens during the night correct? So if a player is turned and investigated tonight, what happens? Will the investigator see it or does he have to send his action in after Alexia?

My Response:
Yes once Alexia reaches 2 goons she can continue to neighborize players  for as long as she is alive.  However on even days she has the option to either neighborize or use the Ashford Mafia hit.   If the OG Mafia is all gone then Alexia would take over both nights so she could neighborize on odd days and then kill on even or any number of combonations of those two but only one of them each day.  So for example she could neighborize both days, kill both days, kill on the odd day and neighborize the even day or vice versa.

As to having 2 goons alive that would be required to have the hit on even nights.  So yes if the turned player is voted out that would stop the Ashford Mafia from getting a hit.  Alexia could still neighborize to attempt to get back up to two goons.

As to the assimilation question... The assimilation can happen anytime during the day or at night. It really depends on when I hear back from Alexia on who they want to neighborize.   As to the investigator and a neighborized player, It really depends on who Alexia nighborized and if the investigator investigated the same player.  If say Alexia neighborizes someone and the investigator investigated the same person at any point in that particular day either before or after the neighborize then the investigator would get the updated results after the day is closed since the investigator would have already gotten results back from me earlier in the day.  So the investigator would have to take action with that info the following day.       

Anonymous question: 
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Does Alexia Ashford come back as a normal townie in investigations since she is a mob boss?

My answer:  Yes Alexia Ashford would come back as a townie much like Albert Wesker.    Albert would come back as Ashford Goon # so and so if he was neighborized.  But other than that normal townie for both mob bosses. 


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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 17, 2020, 03:47:48 PM »
The earliest that the Alexia could use her hit is Day 5 and that only happens if she gains a 2nd goon on Day 4 and the Organization Mafia is gone from the game thus being able to use their action each night.  If there remains one Organization Mafia member on their team then if Alexia gains a second goon on Day 4 then the first opportunity to use the hit is on Day 6.  The hit gets delayed if she fails at gaining a second goon on Day 4.   



The reason why Alexia was able to use a hit on the even day as well as the neighborize is because the neighborize came first and they were successful with it and it just so happened yesterday was an even day.  Now if Alexia loses one of her goons she will have to attempt to neighborize someone else and be successful. If she fails the neighborize then she wouldn't get the hit chance that night and will have to try again at a later day. 

This has been addressed.   New Day 5 since nothing else has changed.

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Welcome to the forums.

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Early morning vote tally

stevey-1

I have to go to the doctors in a little bit but I should be back home relatively quickly.  I will have my phone with me so if you have any questions go ahead and PM me and I will try and get back to you.

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Story

Results of Day 4

Khushrenada was voted out and he was a normal townie.

Alexia Ashford was successful in neighborizing another player.  They have become Ashford Goon #2.

Alexia attempted to use her hit on pokepal148 but pokepal was protected

The reason why Alexia was able to use a hit on the even day as well as the neighborize is because the neighborize came first and they were successful with it and it just so happened yesterday was an even day.  Now if Alexia loses one of her goons she will have to attempt to neighborize someone else and be successful. If she fails the neighborize then she wouldn't get the hit chance that night and will have to try again at a later day.
 

It seems that the host can make mistakes.  Since the nighborize went through and there was only the vote out the game continue from here using my previously established rules.

Notes for todays game day

Same deal as yesterday with time of day length.  48 hours for Day 4 or when majority is reached and stays for one hour. With 10 players alive, majority is going to be 6 players voting for the same person.

Today is the Organization Mafia Hit day. Albert Wesker can PM me here on the forums or through Discord his hit. I have the same name on Discord as on here.

Claire Redfield can message me on here or on Discord their action and receive the results early if you wish to do so.

Steve Burnside can message me on here or Discord who he wants to save and he can self protect if he so wishes.

Leon S Kennedy can send me an message on here or Discord the message he wants to have me post in the day thread.  He will only get one Encrypted message each game day.

Everyone has received a PM if you have a special role or if you are a normal townie. 

Players amongst the living

Steefosaurus
stevey
pokepal148
Mr. Bungle
Insanolord
TOPHATANT123
Luigi Dude
Nickmitch
Lolmonade
Mop it up

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I know it is early but does anyone want to theorize the ratio of Nintendo characters to 3rd party for the next 6 characters?    I kinda think it could be either 3 Nintendo/ 3 third party or 5 Nintendo and one 3rd party character.  My reasoning for the latter is because we got a majority of 3rd party characters with the first fighter pass and it would be so Sakurai to tease the last 3rd party character as the 6th character in the next pack of fighters.

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General Chat / Re: NBA Thread: Out for the Season (Broken Hand)
« on: January 17, 2020, 01:08:30 AM »
Wow going into overtime. 113 a piece. 

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General Chat / Re: NBA Thread: Out for the Season (Broken Hand)
« on: January 17, 2020, 12:54:34 AM »
This Warriors/ Nuggets game is turning into a really tight game.  Warriors were up so much at the half. 

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General Chat / Re: NBA Thread: Out for the Season (Broken Hand)
« on: January 17, 2020, 12:23:06 AM »
Oh wow looking at the box score Ingram scored 49 versus a defensive powerhouse with players like Gobert and Bojan.  Like that is wild.   and the Pels aren't even full strength yet.   Zion will be returning on the 22nd though so things may change a lot following that date. 

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So Nintendo has handled Fighter games basically like any other franchise.  I must say that 2 seasons is basically like getting a brand new Smash Bros game.  Honestly 11 new characters and balance tweaks would be a new fighting game.  This game really makes me wonder if this really is the last Smash Bros Sakuri will make...and if it is, will we just get graphical upgrades later, though honestly it doesn't need it.

I think Sakurai himself that the Smash series takes a lot out of him so it wouldn't surprise me if this was the last one made by him and they just add characters and other things to it to keep it fresh.

He almost refuses to stop working on it though.
Because people keep asking so much from him that he kinda has to continue with working on it.  Very weird feedback loop he is in.

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 16, 2020, 10:59:28 PM »
What if we trade our Khushrenada's life for GK's? Is that a thing? Instead of a lynching, it could be a ritual sacrifice to create a revival virus.
That isn't going to be a thing this game but perhaps that can be done for a future RE game. 

In that case, I expect a gigantic effigy of GK made out of whatever pieces of Khushrenada are left after his lynching. Anything less would be just plain disrespectful.
Ill try and not disappoint then.

What I may have folks disappointed about is the next day not going up on time tomorrow morning.   I have a doctors appointment around the time of the action deadline so the next day in all likelihood will be delayed.  I know I know I am sorry but take this opportunity to do other things like your laundry, figure out dinner and just have fun out there living your life.

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So Nintendo has handled Fighter games basically like any other franchise.  I must say that 2 seasons is basically like getting a brand new Smash Bros game.  Honestly 11 new characters and balance tweaks would be a new fighting game.  This game really makes me wonder if this really is the last Smash Bros Sakuri will make...and if it is, will we just get graphical upgrades later, though honestly it doesn't need it.

I think Sakurai himself that the Smash series takes a lot out of him so it wouldn't surprise me if this was the last one made by him and they just add characters and other things to it to keep it fresh.

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 16, 2020, 06:04:06 PM »
What if we trade our Khushrenada's life for GK's? Is that a thing? Instead of a lynching, it could be a ritual sacrifice to create a revival virus.
That isn't going to be a thing this game but perhaps that can be done for a future RE game. 

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General Chat / Re: NBA Thread: Out for the Season (Broken Hand)
« on: January 16, 2020, 01:56:58 PM »
Looks like we have our second trade of the season. 

Atlanta has traded Allen Crabbe to Minnesota for a returning Jeff Teague and Treveon Graham.  Teague will back up Trey Young.   The T-Wolves might be moving pieces to pair Booker with Kat on the T-Wolves or they are sending KAT to the Suns to work on their rebuild. Both the T-Wolves and Suns Rebuild.

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2020/1/16/21068940/atlanta-hawks-trade-allen-crabbe-minnesota-jeff-teague-treveon-graham-details-salary-cap

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I need to put 3 houses on my list of Switch games to get when I get a Switch Lite.  Looking forward on learning more to the characters in that game.   

I do like the different ways Byleths plays so they are not just a sword fighter.  Might be tricky to master them.

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Thread is locked.

Tallying votes.
Majority reached and passed. 6 votes on Khushrenada. Khushrenada is voted out.

As to actions you will have 24 hours to submit them. That timer starts as of this post. 

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Looks like it is starting shortly.

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Morning everyone.  Feeling rested.

Looks like we have reached majority on Khushrenada.   I will keep an eye on the thread for the next hour. If there is no vote changes then Khushrenada will be voted out. 

Also it looks like the Smash Ultimate character reveal will be airing shortly.

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 16, 2020, 08:51:12 AM »
Really? Oh my bad.
Just letting you know for future reference. :)

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