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General Chat / My First Rant: A Gamer/Brony story here.
« on: December 11, 2012, 01:10:20 PM »
For those not in the know and outside of the few people I could trust with this info I am leaving the forums. I have been planning this for about 2 years but I wanted to finis hosting the 2 Mafia games I had planned from back then.So this has been a long time coming for me and I have been very emotional writing out this post.
My reasons for leaving are many and mainly have to do with the forums. There is also a few other members who have left from here and I share the same issues and concerns.So lets get to the first.
Bullying is a major one and at times I have seen people on the forums go and rail on a person just because they were posting a certain way here. Tendoboy's posts are a good example of people who did this. I personally think he was just trying to bring up conversation on the forum with his posts. Also there were people who were bullied at times in the past who became the bullies to fit in with the in crowd so they themselves would not get bullied. It can become an endless cycle.
This next one is one of the reasons I left the forum for a month during E3 this year. It just happened each year at E3 and also happened all through out the year from many people and it just got to much and that is Entitlement. This has more to do with being patient with Nintendo but also have to do with your fellow gamers. Nintendo sometimes can't release some info right away because their competitors will steal it. As for our fellow gamers it is usually a good idea to embrace all gamers no matter who they are because once we do that games will be ore accepted then they already are by everyone and not just something gamers keep to themselves while clawing at anyone else that doesn't fit in with the gamers mold whatever that is.
One of the most important things when keeping a good forum is to know how much moderation on the forums is enough and this forum has tons of topics that breaks the rules on the forums. There is a certain amount of tact needed to run a forum as a mod while enforcing the rules while keeping the members happy. I find the mods here are not very good here at doing this. I am a mod at 2 and I guess it comes down to the people there. Mods on the forum here can be condescending at times of the forum members.
This goes with the condescending as well. This isn't a good place to be a fan of Nintendo anymore. You have to temper your posts with qualifiers. In other words you can not be a overly positive Nintendo fan you have to put in some small negative that Nintendo has done and this also goes for Sony and Microsoft. You are singled out and put in SUPERs Fanboy euthanization station topic. I kinda joked in one of the topics here that I hoped that this place doesn't become a hive mind but in a way it has. It has become a place for negativity more then anything little by little until there is hardly any positivity left on the forums.People will be tired of it and then leave like I am and then it will be more pessimistic then anything else.
Final issue/concern I have and then I will get to how I would fix this and then positive stuff.You are a trooper for reading this far.
Final issue is that the site is having like many other big sites is that it is starting to have misleading titles for the talkback threads and or blog posts that have a headline that just is there for clicks and or to cause the reader to get emotional upset and post a comment and keep the discussion going. I know I have seen in the past there have been articles like this in the archive but when I went to go back to look for but they were gone from the site. There was a Rick Powers one that was pretty off base and got lots of comments but I can't find it anywhere on the site. Few others come to mind but that was the most forefront in my mind at this time.
I know some people get their jollys posting in these type of topics to feel like the thoughts are justified but if you need to find a better way of getting hits then posting these type of pieces or click bait.
I would personally do three things that will solve most of these things.
One get rid of the Karma system or modify it so that is just positive points.Maybe have it so that you can plus a post kinda like how it works in Miiverse. It indirectly causes division and is a passive aggressive way of dealing with people how it is set up currently. Also if the mods come back with that it is dumb for people to complain and the mods and admins came up with it then isn't it just place back on the mods. Just saying that that that it could use some work or be done with altogether.
Get better mods that can enforce the rules of the forums and can stay on the forums most of the time. I'd like to stay to mod but I can't for obvious reasons. 1. I am leaving as per this post. 2. I am a mod on two forums. 3. I have many other things I need to take care of in real life.
Finally if you have read that then congrats you are halfway through. The above is for the mods and admins the rest below is for everyone else.
I will say my most fun time I had here was when I was playing with people on the forums and actually talking about games and what they were doing in real life. In games like Animal Crossing: City Folk, Tri,SSBB, and Mario Kart Wii. I liked just chatting with people in Animal Crossing:City Folk and the generosity as far as sharing my time and items and helping out people and any stories from real life we had. For Tri it was just the loyalty and kindness to all I played with and that I stuck with them and worked with them in the game. Super Smash Brothers Brawl I can honestly say that that it made me a better gamer skillwise because I didn't really care much for competition type stuff but I worked at the game and for the most part I do pretty good at it and many other games since. As for Mario Kart Wii it made me enjoy gaming again and it brought the community aspect to games again.
The Brony part of this story actually started for me on this forum and it wasn't because of that topic that I like to post in a lot these days but from someone from these very forums and he faved a video back in I want to say February 2011 or at least that's when the episode came out for Sonic Rainboom. I didn't really click on the video at the time but I just saw the thumbnail and I thought hmm this person on the NWR forums faved this well that's interesting. I put it out of my head for a while but then I heard about the show through other outlets that I watched like a Monster Hunter podcast and it was near the end of the cast but didn't get it.
After a while at the start of August 2011 the word meme pops in my head for some reason so I look it up and I find the Know your meme channel on YT. So I was interested in memes so I did a marathon and pretty much watched all the videos that night and the newest video they had uploaded was about the show. After I finish watching the videos I go check out Ponychan and Equestria Daily and check out if there was any games and there was one that intersted me and it was a mix of Zelda and MLP and it was being made. I look up the name of the game and then I find this 300 page topic about the show and I lurk through the topic while watching each episode and then watching any fan content that was in the topic till I was caught up after about 2 weeks season 2 was about to start and I have been more happy since. It took many months from when I got into the show from August 2011 to December 2011 to come back on here and post about it because I wasn't to sure how anyone was going to respond to it. Part of the reason I decided to become a Brony was because a I have a niece so we can bond together with it, there was just to much negativity on here and this was just another way of me injecting positivity on here, the other is that it is a darn good show and everyone should at least give it a chance. It has relatable stories anyone can relate to.One of the newer episodes called Too Many Pinkie Pies is pretty much me nowadays to many things I want to do but not enough of me to go around. Also the characters are people that you probably would know in real life if they were actual people.
If for some reason after that wall of text you want to get in touch with me well I am on twitter under two accounts. @NintempleMaxi and @Knuckleshy the former is my personal one and the latter is my brony account so you can talk to me based on who you are.
I will end with this.
Sit back and smile.
Not worth the fight.
So just remember that it's all alright.
Though it seems dark
On this cold black night.
The sun has set, lets bring it back to life.
My reasons for leaving are many and mainly have to do with the forums. There is also a few other members who have left from here and I share the same issues and concerns.So lets get to the first.
Bullying is a major one and at times I have seen people on the forums go and rail on a person just because they were posting a certain way here. Tendoboy's posts are a good example of people who did this. I personally think he was just trying to bring up conversation on the forum with his posts. Also there were people who were bullied at times in the past who became the bullies to fit in with the in crowd so they themselves would not get bullied. It can become an endless cycle.
This next one is one of the reasons I left the forum for a month during E3 this year. It just happened each year at E3 and also happened all through out the year from many people and it just got to much and that is Entitlement. This has more to do with being patient with Nintendo but also have to do with your fellow gamers. Nintendo sometimes can't release some info right away because their competitors will steal it. As for our fellow gamers it is usually a good idea to embrace all gamers no matter who they are because once we do that games will be ore accepted then they already are by everyone and not just something gamers keep to themselves while clawing at anyone else that doesn't fit in with the gamers mold whatever that is.
One of the most important things when keeping a good forum is to know how much moderation on the forums is enough and this forum has tons of topics that breaks the rules on the forums. There is a certain amount of tact needed to run a forum as a mod while enforcing the rules while keeping the members happy. I find the mods here are not very good here at doing this. I am a mod at 2 and I guess it comes down to the people there. Mods on the forum here can be condescending at times of the forum members.
This goes with the condescending as well. This isn't a good place to be a fan of Nintendo anymore. You have to temper your posts with qualifiers. In other words you can not be a overly positive Nintendo fan you have to put in some small negative that Nintendo has done and this also goes for Sony and Microsoft. You are singled out and put in SUPERs Fanboy euthanization station topic. I kinda joked in one of the topics here that I hoped that this place doesn't become a hive mind but in a way it has. It has become a place for negativity more then anything little by little until there is hardly any positivity left on the forums.People will be tired of it and then leave like I am and then it will be more pessimistic then anything else.
Final issue/concern I have and then I will get to how I would fix this and then positive stuff.You are a trooper for reading this far.
Final issue is that the site is having like many other big sites is that it is starting to have misleading titles for the talkback threads and or blog posts that have a headline that just is there for clicks and or to cause the reader to get emotional upset and post a comment and keep the discussion going. I know I have seen in the past there have been articles like this in the archive but when I went to go back to look for but they were gone from the site. There was a Rick Powers one that was pretty off base and got lots of comments but I can't find it anywhere on the site. Few others come to mind but that was the most forefront in my mind at this time.
I know some people get their jollys posting in these type of topics to feel like the thoughts are justified but if you need to find a better way of getting hits then posting these type of pieces or click bait.
I would personally do three things that will solve most of these things.
One get rid of the Karma system or modify it so that is just positive points.Maybe have it so that you can plus a post kinda like how it works in Miiverse. It indirectly causes division and is a passive aggressive way of dealing with people how it is set up currently. Also if the mods come back with that it is dumb for people to complain and the mods and admins came up with it then isn't it just place back on the mods. Just saying that that that it could use some work or be done with altogether.
Get better mods that can enforce the rules of the forums and can stay on the forums most of the time. I'd like to stay to mod but I can't for obvious reasons. 1. I am leaving as per this post. 2. I am a mod on two forums. 3. I have many other things I need to take care of in real life.
Finally if you have read that then congrats you are halfway through. The above is for the mods and admins the rest below is for everyone else.
I will say my most fun time I had here was when I was playing with people on the forums and actually talking about games and what they were doing in real life. In games like Animal Crossing: City Folk, Tri,SSBB, and Mario Kart Wii. I liked just chatting with people in Animal Crossing:City Folk and the generosity as far as sharing my time and items and helping out people and any stories from real life we had. For Tri it was just the loyalty and kindness to all I played with and that I stuck with them and worked with them in the game. Super Smash Brothers Brawl I can honestly say that that it made me a better gamer skillwise because I didn't really care much for competition type stuff but I worked at the game and for the most part I do pretty good at it and many other games since. As for Mario Kart Wii it made me enjoy gaming again and it brought the community aspect to games again.
The Brony part of this story actually started for me on this forum and it wasn't because of that topic that I like to post in a lot these days but from someone from these very forums and he faved a video back in I want to say February 2011 or at least that's when the episode came out for Sonic Rainboom. I didn't really click on the video at the time but I just saw the thumbnail and I thought hmm this person on the NWR forums faved this well that's interesting. I put it out of my head for a while but then I heard about the show through other outlets that I watched like a Monster Hunter podcast and it was near the end of the cast but didn't get it.
After a while at the start of August 2011 the word meme pops in my head for some reason so I look it up and I find the Know your meme channel on YT. So I was interested in memes so I did a marathon and pretty much watched all the videos that night and the newest video they had uploaded was about the show. After I finish watching the videos I go check out Ponychan and Equestria Daily and check out if there was any games and there was one that intersted me and it was a mix of Zelda and MLP and it was being made. I look up the name of the game and then I find this 300 page topic about the show and I lurk through the topic while watching each episode and then watching any fan content that was in the topic till I was caught up after about 2 weeks season 2 was about to start and I have been more happy since. It took many months from when I got into the show from August 2011 to December 2011 to come back on here and post about it because I wasn't to sure how anyone was going to respond to it. Part of the reason I decided to become a Brony was because a I have a niece so we can bond together with it, there was just to much negativity on here and this was just another way of me injecting positivity on here, the other is that it is a darn good show and everyone should at least give it a chance. It has relatable stories anyone can relate to.One of the newer episodes called Too Many Pinkie Pies is pretty much me nowadays to many things I want to do but not enough of me to go around. Also the characters are people that you probably would know in real life if they were actual people.
If for some reason after that wall of text you want to get in touch with me well I am on twitter under two accounts. @NintempleMaxi and @Knuckleshy the former is my personal one and the latter is my brony account so you can talk to me based on who you are.
I will end with this.
Sit back and smile.
Not worth the fight.
So just remember that it's all alright.
Though it seems dark
On this cold black night.
The sun has set, lets bring it back to life.
